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slong#startmeeting docteam03:08
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 16 03:08:24 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slong. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.03:08
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'docteam'03:08
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slongsorry for my tardiness all.03:08
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slongEr, perhaps I'm the only one?03:09
* dnavale is lurking..03:10
slongOk, will talk at the meetBot. Nick isn't here, and that's the only action item from the US mtg.03:10
slong:) dnavale03:10
slongSam-I-Am isn't here, and that's the only action from the last AUS mtg.03:11
slong#action configScripts03:13
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slonghey there03:13
slongfifieldt, any news on the config scripts?03:13
fifieldterm, which?03:13
slongOn the agenda: "Final run of configuration scripts to land before April 17"03:13
fifieldtgpocentek has volunteered to do this03:13
fifieldtso it's in good hands ;)03:14
slong#action InstallGuide03:14
slongAnyone have something to add?03:14
slong#action OpsGuide03:15
fifieldtinstall guide is going well03:15
fifieldtjust need more testers03:15
fifieldtsee for gaps03:15
slongK, ta. Urgh, using the wrong key...03:15
slong#topic UserSurvey03:16
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fifieldtI sent anne some rapid analysis yesterday03:16
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slongAnything immediately interesting?03:17
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fifieldtrecall that the question was about API/SDK docs. ... people want Quality, and Examples03:17
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slongOk, and then there's the doc contribution survey.03:18
slong# topic docContribSurvey03:18
fifieldtoh, that one03:18
slongJust realised there are a couple of lists I could post to.03:18
slongAnything else on that one? Tom, am shamelessly using you as the news source...03:19
fifieldt30 responses maybe?03:19
fifieldtI haven't done any analysis03:20
slongCutoff will be after release?03:20
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fifieldtdon't know03:20
fifieldtbut seems likely03:20
slongkk, next one.03:21
slong#topic newsForDocTools03:21
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slongWell, this must be one Anne is anticipating.03:21
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fifieldtthe requirements.txt was updated slightly03:22
fifieldtfor some new cli doc runs03:22
slongHave you been working on that or Andreas?03:22
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fifieldtI just review the patches :)03:23
fifieldtno work done here :D03:23
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slongk, and finally03:23
slong# topic IcehouseStatus03:23
fifieldtbased on the mailing list, it seems that we are going to alias /icehouse to /trunk for a while03:23
fifieldtto avoid backport hell03:24
fifieldtare you familiar with backport hell, slong?03:24
slongI know we're all feverishly trying to finish bugs. Very happy about that grace period.03:24
slongAnd have only heard about it.03:24
fifieldtto explain briefly03:24
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fifieldtthe rule is that fixes go in the master branch03:24
fifieldtso the master is always the most up to date03:24
fifieldtthen, they are copied back into the stable/* branch that is appropriate03:25
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fifieldteg you may have seen some things go from master to stable/havana03:25
fifieldtthe process is called backporting03:25
fifieldtand basically means you end up making two commits03:25
fifieldtand the backport can sometimes be hard03:25
fifieldtsince, increasingly, as time goes on, things are not backported03:26
slongcherrypicking is used to get single items?03:26
fifieldtand master diverges from stable/*03:26
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fifieldtso our cycle kind goes |working on master| working on master masquerading as icehouse | working on master, backporting to icehouse| working on master, in prep for juno|03:27
slongAnne was saying that the Install Guide and Config Ref were the ones being branched.03:27
slongWhy the Config Ref and not the CLI, if both use automated scripts?03:27
fifieldtthat might be one to ask her :)03:27
slongI did, no answer yet.03:27
fifieldtthere was some justification a while back03:27
fifieldtbut I can't recall it03:27
fifieldtIt was something around having release docs and another 'library'03:28
fifieldtof books for reference03:28
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slongI would vote to moving the ConfigRef to continuous integration.03:29
slongAnyway, am happy the whole question is on hold for a bit.03:29
slongAnd, finally03:30
slong#topic openDiscussion03:30
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fifieldttrove patch for install guide03:31
fifieldtwe need it asap :)03:31
fifieldtguessing Laurel is asleep03:31
slongAh, cool. Will review after the updates for Andreas.03:31
fifieldtanyone got time to fix it up a bit?03:31
fifieldtI'm also seeking good instructions for making trove guestagent images03:32
fifieldtthere aren't any right now03:32
fifieldtand it's a bit confusing03:32
fifieldt(also not explained by that patch, but that's OK - I'd prefer to get it in)03:32
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slongdnavale, is there a trove dev person fifieldt can ask?03:33
slong(dnavale is our Trove person.)03:33
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dnavaleSergey Gotliv from RH has installed it..03:33
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fifieldthi guys, I want to introduce jeffshantz_03:34
dnavalebut he's still working out some kinks, i think..03:34
fifieldthe's been helping out the install guide03:34
jeffshantz_Hi all03:34
slonghi jeffshantz_03:34
dnavalehey jeffshantz_03:34
jeffshantz_Thank you!03:34
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fifieldtif you guys can ask sergey if he wrote anything down, that'd be great03:34
dnavalewill do, fifieldt03:35
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fifieldtI have to get on user survey analysis, otherwise I'd be on it03:35
dnavalebut that might be sometime next week, they are off till tuesday, 22 Apr..03:35
fifieldtgotta get some raw results for PTLs/TCs asap timeframe03:35
fifieldtprobably need it well before then03:35
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fifieldtno dramas03:35
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slongfifieldt, am doing a couple of reworks, but will get on it after (if nobody else does first).03:36
slongAnything else?03:37
slongOk, have a lovely Easter all of you. :)03:38
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fifieldtthanks slong :)03:38
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Apr 16 03:38:19 2014 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at . (v 0.1.4)03:38
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johnthetubaguy#startmeeting XenAPI15:02
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 16 15:02:16 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:02
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: XenAPI)"15:02
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'xenapi'15:02
johnthetubaguyhow do?15:02
leifzgood morning15:02
BobBallagain.  My amazing powers of prediction on show.15:02
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johnthetubaguy#topic CI15:02
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johnthetubaguyany news from the CI world?15:03
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BobBallIt's healthy :)15:03
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johnthetubaguyah, cool15:03
johnthetubaguyso things are progressing15:03
BobBallDid have a hiccup this morning15:03
BobBallwhich I've hopefully fixed15:03
BobBallso we lost a few jobs because the gerrit stream died15:04
johnthetubaguyoh, bummer15:04
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BobBallI could always re-add them manually since the rcbops site tells me which ones it missed15:04
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BobBallbut probably not worth it15:04
BobBallwe don't seem to have missed much15:05
johnthetubaguyI duno, could be good for the stats though15:05
johnthetubaguybut cools15:05
BobBallsure, but I don't like gaming stats :)15:05
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BobBallwe're already doing exceptionally well if you compare us to other 3rd party CIs15:05
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johnthetubaguywell, there might be a bug lurking in those changes, its not totally gaming?15:05
BobBallhighest pass rate of all 3rd party CI's15:05
BobBallI'm happy with that ;)15:05
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BobBallI suppose we could add a filter that adds jobs as they are commented on if we haven't run a test on that job15:06
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BobBallSimilar to jenkins15:06
BobBall XenServer CI voted on 327 patchsets (85.96%) passing 294 (89.91%), failing 33 (10.09%) and unparsed 0 (0.0%)  - 10% failure rate is pretty good115:07
johnthetubaguyoh dear, thats a bad sign, generally15:07
BobBallthat it's so low?15:07
johnthetubaguythat its so high15:07
BobBallor oh dear in the context of openstack because all other tests are much higher?15:07
johnthetubaguy10% is massively high15:08
BobBalljenkins has a 43% failure rate15:08
BobBallhyper-v 47%15:08
BobBallpowerVM 25%15:08
BobBalland docker / vmware aren't even running ATM15:08
BobBallonly turbo-hipster has a lower rate at 7.3%15:08
johnthetubaguyyeah, not arguing with you, its just a worry15:08
johnthetubaguygenerally :)15:08
johnthetubaguyjenkins has a hard job though, lots of real failures, and has many tests that fail probably less than ours15:09
BobBallWell I'm not planning to put any effort in improving the failure rate ATM15:09
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johnthetubaguyOK, fair point15:09
johnthetubaguymore tests first I guess15:09
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BobBallwhich needs the stackforge change15:09
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BobBallI suspect we can enable quite a lot of them already15:10
BobBallbut I'm not confident enough that it won't kill the failure rate15:10
BobBalle.g. we had a lot of volume failures15:10
BobBallbut a devstack change which caused it to bomb out on failing commands showed that the XFS volume wasn't big enough15:10
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BobBallwe were creating it in MB rather than GB... ... ...15:11
johnthetubaguyI keep wondering about a second setup that does on demand requests only, that can be used to try out new tests, etc15:11
BobBallFixing that made devstack work but should also I hope fix a lot of the volume tests15:11
BobBallNew tests are automatically checked with tempest15:11
BobBallbut if it's in stackforge we can easily re-submit tests when we fix things in nova etc15:12
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johnthetubaguyyeah, I was more thinking, add more tests, run it 10 times, but leave other ones running on the old config15:13
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johnthetubaguybut maybe once we test in stackforge your config repo, we get that?15:13
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BobBallNot sure how to add that15:14
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BobBallnot automatically anyway15:14
BobBallunless we said all tempest changes get run multiple times15:14
BobBallbut that's ugly15:14
johnthetubaguywell, recheck a few times was the plan15:14
BobBallwhy call out tempest and not re-run everything in nova a few times too15:14
BobBallin case we've added a race in nova rather than added a race from a new test15:15
BobBallrecheck works already, of course15:15
BobBallso if there is suspicion you can recheck15:15
BobBallI fixed a bug this week where it would overwrite results if you rechecked15:15
BobBallnow they are all archived15:15
johnthetubaguymaybe, just wonder about testing it out without impact whats happening for peoples patches, but yeah15:15
BobBall(don't tell Rackspace - I'm using all of their storage.  Only 150GB for now though...)15:15
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johnthetubaguylol, thats increasing nicely15:16
BobBallBlame ceilometer15:16
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BobBallthey have far and away the biggest log file ;)15:16
johnthetubaguywe sell VMs with more storage than that, small amounts of data, a proper use measures in TB15:17
* johnthetubaguy giggles15:17
johnthetubaguy#topic Summit15:17
BobBallOK - I'll tell you when we hit the 1PB mark.15:17
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johnthetubaguyBobBall: good good15:17
BobBalloh - hang on15:17
BobBallbefore we move on from CI15:18
BobBallI've got a frustrating15:18
johnthetubaguyoh, ok...15:18
BobBallservers which go into error state when deleting them15:18
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BobBallbecause we're running dozens a day15:18
BobBallwe hit it quite frequently15:18
BobBallI know there is a clean up every 24 hours or so15:18
BobBallbut yesterday I had 6 servers which refused to go away15:18
johnthetubaguyhmm, sounds annoying, can you send me some uuids?15:19
johnthetubaguyvia email15:19
BobBallIs there a bug raised for this?  Do you know anything about what's going on etc?15:19
johnthetubaguyI will raise a ticket15:19
BobBallWell I've only got one ATM15:19
BobBallbut they get cleaned up as I say15:19
BobBalland I have no idea why they fail to delete15:19
johnthetubaguyI saw something myself once, seems to be a cells issue, as far as I can tell15:19
BobBalluuids aren't private :)15:19
BobBallthat's the current one15:19
johnthetubaguylike a bad sync of state, or something15:19
johnthetubaguyOK, it was more that I am unlikely to do anything about it right now15:20
BobBallbah :D15:20
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BobBallit'll have been cleaned up by the time you read emails ;)15:21
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johnthetubaguyyeah, I am on ETO till next wednesday from tomorrow, so you are probably right15:21
emaganapXenAPI folks, I have a request from the docs area, let me know when will be the best time to speak up15:22
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johnthetubaguyearned time off15:22
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BobBallGotta love how all companies have different words for it15:22
BobBallshould we talk docs now johnthetubaguy and emaganap ?15:23
johnthetubaguyyeah, its funncy15:23
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johnthetubaguywell, quickly about the summit...15:23
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johnthetubaguyanything we want for the summit?15:23
BobBallA t-shirt.15:23
BobBallBut I think that's a given.15:23
emaganapjohnthetubaguy: beer15:23
johnthetubaguyBobBall: you were going to organise some kinda beer?15:23
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BobBallbeer is a better answer.15:23
BobBallI've not done anything about beer :/15:24
johnthetubaguyah, well we should do something, if there is no Nova session on XenAPI15:24
johnthetubaguy#topic Docs15:24
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emaganapI work mostly on the Neutron area15:25
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emaganapwe have a bud about undocumented work on XenAPI support15:25
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1026745 in openstack-manuals "Quantum docs should describe XenAPI setup" [Medium,Confirmed]15:25
emaganapI was wondering if you guys could take a look and give me some possible names to own this bug15:26
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emaganapIt has been opened for a while15:26
johnthetubaguyyeah, I have not played with that recently, I know matel had a wiki page15:26
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BobBallwiki page?15:26
BobBallnot blog?15:26
BobBallI know he did
BobBallOh - this page?
johnthetubaguyyeah, thats it15:27
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johnthetubaguywell, and the blog I guess15:27
BobBallhmmm - yeah - that's devstack15:28
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johnthetubaguyI have never got it working myself, and kinda thing we need another CI setup to test it, but yeah15:28
johnthetubaguywell, what bits run where, is probably the first bit right?15:28
BobBallI guess the blog post is more what any docs should cover15:28
BobBallThat's what runs where15:28
BobBallit's fun.15:28
emaganapI was not familiar with those ones but I always hear the same statement "I have never got it working myself"15:29
johnthetubaguyyeah, agreed15:29
BobBallWe have a CI that runs the setup at Citrix15:29
annegentleBobBall: be sure to add that blog post in the comments for that bug15:29
BobBallsome tempest tests fail due to security groups not working properly with the OVS15:29
annegentleBobBall: if it's not already15:29
BobBallbut I think that's being fxied ATM15:29
BobBallwill do annegentle15:29
emaganapIn Neutron we are deprecating anything that is not documented15:30
johnthetubaguyemaganap: makes good sense15:30
emaganapI will give it a try myself15:30
annegentleBobBall: danke15:30
johnthetubaguythis is probably a sticking point for nova-network removal as well right15:30
johnthetubaguyBobBall: changes of a second XenServer CI that runs neutron?15:31
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BobBallBy myself?  Quite low I think.15:32
BobBallNot sure about the resources either - doubling up might be too much15:32
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BobBallI assume you mean a voting 3rd party CI15:32
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johnthetubaguyyeah, ideally15:32
johnthetubaguyor switching over, if it works15:32
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BobBallit might 'just work' since all the goodness is in devstack15:32
BobBallbut the 3rd party CI is firmly nova-network ATM15:32
johnthetubaguyanyways, maybe sorting out the testing is enough to talk about at the summit?15:33
BobBallas I said, we have one internal at Citrix which is running15:33
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BobBallThat'd be a very good topic to talk about yeah15:33
johnthetubaguyBobBall: it must be neutron soon, else we will never remove nova-network15:33
johnthetubaguyBobBall: so do we want a session of XenAPI driver then?15:33
BobBallI'm eagerly anticipating a timescale for the removal of nova-network15:33
emaganapyes, please work with Neutron folks if needed.. I can help15:33
emaganapI am Neutron core15:33
BobBalland I'm sure that that removal shouldn't depend on the xenserver 3rd party CI15:34
johnthetubaguyemaganap: appreciate the heads up on deprecation15:34
johnthetubaguyBobBall: it will do really, at least makes that CI useless, so puts XenAPI driver at risk again15:34
BobBallNot sure it's worth a summit session - but definitely a discussion :)15:34
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BobBallWhat are the prospects of nova-network being deprecated in juno?15:35
johnthetubaguyBobBall: duno15:35
BobBallare you hopeful?15:35
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BobBall*realistically hopeful? ;)15:35
emaganapThat is the 1M USD question15:35
BobBallhaha ok15:35
johnthetubaguyBobBall: personally I am campaigning for its removal from nova, into a separate project now15:35
emaganapwe hope to make it this time15:35
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johnthetubaguyBobBall: if we don't deprecate it15:36
BobBallbtw - who gets the 1M if neutron makes it?  Because if no one has volunteered, I'd be happy to.15:36
emaganapwell, nova-network is already a separate project.. it is called Neutron15:36
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emaganapmy personal take is we should deprecated ASAP.. then we will fix all issues ASAP15:37
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emaganapno body knows how many bugs are under the rocks until you move them15:37
johnthetubaguyemaganap: yeah, it would compete with neutron, thats true15:38
emaganapbut it is just me and my aggressive, crazy view15:38
BobBallPerhaps we should have a "Quantum week".  Break nova network, switch jenkins over to use it for a week and see how it goes15:38
johnthetubaguywell, need to do something, anyways15:38
BobBallsorry, sorry, neutron.15:38
johnthetubaguythere was one I think last cycle15:38
BobBalla neutron week?15:38
BobBallI missed that15:38
johnthetubaguyanyways… we are getting distracted15:38
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emaganapBobBall: I like that idea.. a breaking week15:38
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johnthetubaguywhats the plan with the docs then?15:39
emaganapjohnthetubaguy: not sure if you are asking in general or just for the bug that I asked15:40
johnthetubaguywe use quark plugin, or at least moving that way, so I don't really know much about the other one15:40
johnthetubaguyemaganap: kinda both15:40
BobBallI don't have a plan currently15:40
BobBallI don't know much about it either which is fun15:40
BobBallWhat's the deprecation schedule mestery ?15:40
johnthetubaguyBobBall: not that bit, just the docs plan15:41
johnthetubaguyfor us15:41
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johnthetubaguyas in XenAPI driver15:41
emaganapBobBall: Ohhhhhhh15:41
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emaganapBobBall: what a confusion....  ha ha ah  lol15:41
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johnthetubaguyBobBall: I think I get your question, now too15:41
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BobBallwhat docs for XenAPI driver? *lost*15:41
johnthetubaguyyeah… lets step back15:42
johnthetubaguyfirst the bug15:42
johnthetubaguythe doc bug15:42
emaganaplI think it will be deprecated during Juno-3, so we have time15:42
johnthetubaguyhow do we move forward15:42
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johnthetubaguycool, so deadline is Juno-315:42
johnthetubaguyBobBall: do we need to keep that code, if yes, whats the plan with the docs?15:42
BobBallProbably, and as I said I do not have a plan15:43
BobBallA plan needs to be made15:43
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johnthetubaguyBobBall:  OK just confirming15:43
BobBallwhich is, I guess, a metaplan.15:43
johnthetubaguycurrently rackspace is using this:
johnthetubaguyor at least planning to move that way15:44
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BobBallWhat is quark?15:44
johnthetubaguywhich is a different neutron plugin, essentially15:44
BobBallAh - so XenAPI is using the OVS plugin15:44
BobBallwasn't that getting deprecated at some point?15:45
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johnthetubaguyyeah, quark is an alternative to the OVS plugin, that also uses OVS15:45
BobBallI meant in general, from neutron.15:45
johnthetubaguyquark currently only works with XenServer15:45
BobBallI wonder if documenting + having a CI based on Quark would be a better long term combination15:46
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BobBallsince the OVS plugin won't keep sync with the OVS from xenserver15:46
johnthetubaguyBobBall: thats the question I think15:46
BobBallbut I guess quark is more likely to15:46
johnthetubaguyBobBall: well, quark is using OVS v2.0 currently, I think15:46
BobBallgood point.15:46
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johnthetubaguyanyways, needs some thought15:47
BobBallI get the link with quantum... but when I think of quark I can't help but think of low fat cheese...15:47
BobBallstrange plugin name from that perspective.15:47
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johnthetubaguyyeah, duno where the name came from15:48
BobBallWell I assume quarks?15:48
johnthetubaguymaybe, anyways...15:48
BobBallas in up, down, strange, top, bottom...15:48
johnthetubaguyits strange, lol15:48
BobBallkinda linked to quantum stuff ;)15:48
johnthetubaguyah, very true...15:48
johnthetubaguymy brain is about to turn off me thinks15:49
BobBallLet's call it then.15:49
johnthetubaguy#topic Open Discussion15:49
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johnthetubaguyare there any other bits15:49
BobBallDidn't we just do Open Discussion? ;)15:50
johnthetubaguysounds like we need a plan for neutron and XenServer introp15:50
johnthetubaguyThat was docs I though15:50
johnthetubaguyI can't remember now, oh dear15:50
johnthetubaguyI can see my band rehearsal being fun tonight15:50
BobBallI'd happily move to quark I think15:50
johnthetubaguyconductor: why all the wrong notes?15:50
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johnthetubaguyme: duno, just kinda stopped reading the music and fell asleep15:51
BobBallwe'd just need to document and/or package OVS15:51
johnthetubaguyyeah, true15:51
johnthetubaguyI am sure such packages could be provided15:51
johnthetubaguygiven they are being used already15:51
BobBallit's easy enough to compile too15:51
johnthetubaguybut yeah, needs some work15:51
johnthetubaguytrue true15:51
BobBallchuck them in the supplemental pack with the plugins15:52
BobBalland jobs a goodun15:52
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BobBallgetting that in a CI would be nice and close to what you use at RAX too15:52
johnthetubaguyanyways, we need to find a way to test that upstream15:52
johnthetubaguyBobBall: yeah, I send an email to different people asking for effort on that like every week, one day it might work15:52
BobBallgood way to get some involvement in the current CI to upgrade it to neutron + quark!15:52
johnthetubaguyby which I mean, one day I will snap and do it15:53
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johnthetubaguyyeah, lets see, I am working on getting a copy of the CI to run XenServer + cells + quark15:53
johnthetubaguyand using that as a good intro15:53
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johnthetubaguymaybe including cloud-cafe tests15:53
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johnthetubaguybut just one bit of those would be a step forward15:53
johnthetubaguyso… we are out of time, almost15:54
johnthetubaguyany last burning issues or ideas?15:54
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BobBallnot that I can think of15:55
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jgriffithHey everyone16:00
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jgriffithJust wanted to do a quick synch up with folks today16:00
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jgriffith#topic Release Status16:00
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jgriffithWe cut another RC yesterday morning16:01
jgriffithAt this point we should be done unless something REALLY critical pops up16:01
jgriffithakerr: did note a problem with Glance API V216:01
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thingeejgriffith: there was an issue that came up with create from image16:01
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jgriffiththingee: :)16:02
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thingeewith regards to checksum missing16:02
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jgriffithsame issue I just mentioned16:02
jgriffithIt's Glance API V216:02
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jgriffithThere are two bugs associated with that....16:02
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kmartinshould that be fixed, if it's easy?16:02
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1308594 in cinder "upload-to-image fails with size error on glance v2 api" [High,Confirmed]16:02
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1308058 in cinder "Cannot create volume from glance image without checksum" [Undecided,New]16:02
jgriffithkmartin: the problem is timing16:02
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kmartinyeah, down to the wire16:03
jgriffithSo spinning another RC and reseting the package maintainers again this late is not good16:03
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thingeeand since we can't guarantee the timing with the state of things, I say we revert and default to None.16:03
jgriffithMy view is that this is a V2 Glance API thing16:03
jgriffithand we default to V116:03
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jgriffithMy vote/view is document in the Release notes as Known issue (which is done) and roll16:04
kmartinagree...should note it16:04
glenngBut it does have an impact to a new NetApp feature requiring v2.16:04
jgriffithglenng: yes, correct16:04
jgriffithwhich sucks16:04
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thingeeit's too bad that this was reported pretty early yesterday too16:05
jgriffithI talked to akerr and he stated that a backport could be relatively easy for Netapp customers16:05
thingeeand not noticed16:05
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glenngNot the end of the world; documenting would be okay.16:05
jgriffiththingee: well since we default to V1 only Netapp uses V2 right now16:05
thingeejust saying, I'16:05
jgriffiththingee: FYI even yesterday morning was a bit late16:06
thingeethink the cut off wasn't done right16:06
akerrjgriffith: our feature is optional as well.  As glenng says, not the end of the world16:06
thingeeif there are unverified issues like this16:06
jgriffiththingee: we cut/shipped yesterday AM at about 8:0016:06
jgriffithI think we're ok16:06
thingeeIt was earlier than that16:06
jgriffiththingee: well ok...16:06
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jgriffiththingee: and the point is?16:06
thingeeit was unverified. there was a cut off16:06
thingeewhat if it was critical?16:07
jgriffiththingee: I'm not sure what you're looking for here?  Is this criticism, or something else?16:07
thingeeI'm just unhappy with the cut off decision16:07
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thingeeon new unverified issues16:07
jgriffiththingee: what specifically do you mean?16:08
thingeebe present16:08
jgriffiththingee: the "cut off" decision?16:08
thingeecan't make it more clear than that16:08
jgriffiththingee: You're unhappy with me cutting the RC yesterday?16:08
jgriffiththingee: maybe we should talk after the meeting16:09
jgriffiththingee: You seem to be very unhappy with how things have been going lately16:09
jgriffithmaybe we can fix it16:09
jgriffithOk... so back to our regular scheduled program16:09
jgriffith#topic summit sessions update16:10
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jgriffithI'll make another pass on those shortly16:10
jgriffithHave some good proposals16:10
jgriffithIt's not too late if you have items you want to propose, but need to do it today16:11
thingeejgriffith: is the ISCSI and FC clean up work in brick needed for a session?16:11
thingeecould probably just unconf for interested parties16:11
thingeewill not just brick16:11
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bswartzthingee: unconf sessions are no more16:11
bswartzlet me find the blog16:11
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thingeebswartz: I can invite anyone to a bar with me to discuss it16:11
jgriffiththingee: We have slots16:12
thingeeand then bring it up in the ML16:12
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jgriffiththingee: we should propose it16:12
glenng*is interested*16:12
bswartzoh a REAL unconf session! are you buying?16:12
thingeeok, I had second thoughts how productive it would be16:12
thingeebswartz: HA, I'm on a budget nowadays16:12
thingeejgriffith: ok I'll propose it16:13
jgriffiththingee: thanks16:13
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jgriffithany questions/suggestions WRT summit sessions?16:13
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thingeehave we verified the people that have proposed these are going to be present or have someone familiar with the subject to be present?16:13
thingeeI don't want more david wang situations16:13
DuncanT-1Who/is/ David Wang?16:14
jgriffithI've checked with each of them and they've "said" they'll be there16:14
thingeeDuncanT-1: that's the new shirt16:14
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winston-dhemna: morning~16:15
jgriffithanything else from anyone?16:15
DuncanT-1I saw a couple of sessions marked incomplete16:15
DuncanT-1Does that mean they're out?16:15
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hemnathingee, iSCSI/FC cleanup work ?16:16
jgriffithDuncanT-1: nahh16:16
thingeehemna: yes, it's a mess16:16
jgriffithDuncanT-1: means they have a chance to come back with a more detailed focus16:16
thingeecomplicated code16:16
xyang1jgriffith: how many slots do we have16:16
jgriffithDuncanT-1: but as the proposal was there were concerns or it wasn't clear what the objective was16:16
hemnathingee, ok fill me in offline16:16
jgriffithxyang1: 1216:16
jgriffitherrr... 1116:16
DuncanT-1jgriffith: Ok, cool16:17
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xyang1jgriffith: do you know which days yet? Wed, Thu, Fri?16:17
jgriffithhemna: if you want to update multi-attach perhaps?16:17
hemnathingee, almost all of that is directly from nova.   I have plans to refactor some of the initiator side, wrt multi-attach and rediscovery at detach time for iSCSI16:17
jgriffithxyang1: Friday last check16:17
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hemnajgriffith, sure16:17
jgriffithxyang1: same as usual16:17
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hemnamulti-attach is coming along.   I have the first set of patches as WIP in gerrit for nova, cinder, cinderclient16:18
jgriffithhemna: awesome16:18
hemnabut I'm working on changes to it as well as getting unit tests working16:18
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jgriffith#topic open-discussion16:18
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* thingee added a topic last minute16:18
hemnaI had to make a change to the current patches at detach time to pass in the attachment uuid instead of instance uuid, because Cinder can attach to a host (no instance uuid in that case)16:18
winston-djgriffith: was asking about if people are interested in immutable volumt type or in place update for volumes when admin making changes to type definition or type-QoS associations16:19
jgriffiththingee: I don't see it?16:19
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hemnaI came across an issue yesterday that I might need some help with16:20
thingeeweird, I do16:20
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thingeewell it's 'cinder resource status'16:20
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thingeespecifically the way we handle a status for an object16:20
jungleboyj_I am here now.16:20
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1305550 in cinder "Failed retype with driver raised exception should set volume status to "error"" [Undecided,In progress]16:20
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thingeethis bug raised a thought that we make the status field too complicated16:20
jgriffiththingee: oh, topic to the agenda16:20
jgriffithnot the summit16:20
winston-dthingee: or not complicated enough?16:21
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jgriffith#topic what to do on retype failure16:21
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thingeeI would like folks to think of cinder of trying removing a lot of the intervention by ops and user.16:21
jgriffithwinston-d: not complicated enough IMO16:21
hemnavolume/ _migrate_volume_generic has a call into nova to update_server_volume for an instance.   since cinder can be attached to multiple instances, which one do I use in the nova_api.update_server_volume() call?16:21
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thingeeto be clear I don't think it should be up to people recover volumes if cinder can do it16:21
hemnaor do I call it for every instance.16:22
hemnathats the only oustanding issue I have wrt multi-attach16:22
jungleboyj_I think the problem is bigger than just for three type. It seems like we should be able to provide the user with more information about a failure.16:22
jgriffithhemna: can we come back around to that16:22
thingeeif somethin is in an error, just stop. it's done. and keep the status as *error*.16:22
jgriffithhemna: finish up the talk about retype first16:22
hemnaso I'm going to try and get a second set of patches up in gerrit this week16:22
hemnajgriffith, ok16:22
thingeedon't try to convey it with 'it-failed-because-of-this-thing' status16:23
thingeehave a separate field that explains why the status is 'error'16:23
jgriffiththingee: so the question however is in that particular case is setting it to error-status appropriate I vote no16:23
DuncanT-1Fine with the separate field16:23
thingeejgriffith: ok, what do you gain from other statuses?16:23
akerrthingee: doesn't nova do something similar to that when an instance goes into error?16:23
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jungleboyj_Can we do a separate fields and still be able to have the user take actions or will it only be the administrator?16:23
ameadeakerr: +1 instance faults16:23
jgriffithDuncanT-1: I think thingee is saying the opposite16:24
DuncanT-1jgriffith: what should it do? Leave the volume at the old type?16:24
thingeemy point is we should reserve error for, there is nothing cinder can do about it. nothing the user can do about it16:24
jgriffithDuncanT-1: well, I think so yes16:24
thingeeit's up to ops16:24
jgriffithDuncanT-1: and the reason is becuase there's nothing "wrong" with the volume16:24
DuncanT-1jgriffith: That seems quite reasonable to me16:24
jgriffithand worse the user doesn't have a mechanism to know what retype's are valid16:24
jgriffithso it's trial and error16:24
thingeejgriffith: so i agree with retype16:24
jgriffithand I think it's bad user experience to put it in error16:24
jgriffithand say "haha now you can't use your volume"16:25
thingeeI'm saying in general, better conveying to the user what happened is what I'm adovcating here16:25
jgriffiththingee: so that's another topic IMO16:25
winston-djgriffith: well, i think here is more about something wrong happened when retyping a volume16:25
jgriffiththingee: and we should propose sub-states16:25
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1305550 in cinder "Failed retype with driver raised exception should set volume status to "error"" [Undecided,In progress]16:25
thingeejgriffith: agreed. and if you look back to my original sentence, this topic brought on a thought for me16:25
thingeeof this16:25
jgriffithwinston-d: yeah, that one is different and that's no good16:26
jungleboyj_Thingee so you were saying we wouldn't put the volume in error?16:26
akerrjgriffith: we already have error_extending, but I'm not sure thats the best way to go16:26
thingeeI think sub-states is also complicated. Again, error is just nothing can be done about it. Not cinder, not the user. Just ops16:26
thingeeput that in a status description field16:26
jungleboyj_Just leave it is available with more information in the field?16:26
thingeemake it so it's safe for users' eyes16:26
jgriffithakerr: yeah, it still blocks some things that look for "error_"16:26
winston-dNova has both 'task state' and 'instance falut'16:27
thingeeops can see a general idea from what the user sees and look at the logs for more information16:27
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jgriffithwinston-d: +116:27
winston-dwe can at least have one16:27
ameadeyou need to be able to handle the case of multiple errors on one resource16:27
winston-dor both16:27
ameadei dont want to only see info about the latest16:27
thingeeameade: so I talked about that in #openstack-cinder too16:27
jgriffithameade: I don't agree with that but I think we're rat holing a bit16:27
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winston-dameade: use cases like multi-attaching?16:28
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jgriffiththe bottom line is right now we have ONE and only ONE method of conveying status16:28
jgriffithit seems that's not enough16:28
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winston-djgriffith: +116:28
jgriffithso we should at least start by implementing a task-state16:28
jungleboyj_ameade I think that is going further than we need right now.16:28
jgriffithand go from there16:28
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* thingee is talking to himself when he just brought up a second way of giving status16:28
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jungleboyj_ jgriffith sounds reasonable.16:29
jgriffiththingee: what did you want to say16:29
jgriffiththingee: floor is all yours16:29
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jgriffitheverybody listen to thingee16:29
thingeelet me scrollback up and paste what I said earlier16:29
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thingeeThis is also explained in the bug
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1305550 in cinder "Failed retype with driver raised exception should set volume status to "error"" [Undecided,In progress]16:30
jgriffiththingee: ummm... sorry that doesn't help me16:30
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jgriffiththingee: what did YOU say16:30
hemna(we should get that bot in openstack-cinder)16:30
thingeeReserve 'error' for the resource is not recoverable by user or cinder. it requires manual intervention by ops16:31
thingeejgriffith: sorry still typing16:31
thingeeuse a *second* field to give a description of the status16:31
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thingeeinstead of 'it-failed-because-of-this-status' like we've been doing16:31
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jgriffiththingee: sure16:32
jungleboyj_jgriffith I think he is pointing out that he wants to keep her for just the worst of situations.16:32
jgriffiththingee: as in my proposal in comment #2 of the bug16:32
winston-dthingee: so no 'error-extending' but just 'error' with an description field?16:32
akerrwinston-d: i think not even "error" there because the volume is still usable, just not the new size16:33
thingeein order to promote better state setting, I would say instead of using the db api directly, we need some helper for setting state that would require things like the new state e.g. available, error, in-use, and a status description is required if it's something like error state.16:33
jungleboyj_winston-d or available with a description field.16:33
winston-dakerr: well, that depends.16:33
winston-djungleboyj_: ^^16:33
jgriffiththingee: yeah, we've been saying for a year defined and real states16:34
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winston-di wish we can have backend driver report some type of failure that actually doesn't hurt/touch the volume.16:34
jungleboyj_It seems like we would still have to add a state for the case for your command failed and you need to see the additional information.16:34
thingeejgriffith: I guess when I read #2 comment in that bug, I took it as another key being used for the sub-status, not a full description of text.16:35
jgriffithwinston-d: I agree16:35
akerryou could define something like a 'nonFatalError' exception that drivers could throw16:35
jungleboyj_winston-d +116:35
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hemnadoesn't this fall under general state management of volume transactions.  Wasn't taskflow supposed to help with this some?16:35
winston-dakerr: yeah, but until we have that, an error could be a unrecoverable error16:36
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jgriffithOk... can I say something without hurting any feelings or pissing anybody off?16:36
jgriffithlet's back up and focus a little16:36
jgriffithfirst; don't bring taskflow into the discussion, it doesn't do what we're talking about regardless of if that was a goal or not16:37
jgriffithLet's propose a summit session16:37
jgriffithFirst... let's agree on: Adding a task-status entry16:37
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jgriffithWe can argue about verbosity, what it means etc later16:37
jungleboyj_jgr iffith +116:38
jgriffithAt the same time, that means we have the opportunity to limit the status field we have today as thingee pointed out16:38
jungleboyj_I think getting in a room together and talking about this is a good idea.16:38
jgriffithwhich I think is needed/good16:38
jgriffithThere are a lot of opportunities here16:38
jgriffithbut you can't throw in EVERYTHING all at once16:39
jgriffithdoes this sound reasonable to everyone?16:39
jgriffithare there any disagreements?16:39
hemnawell I just think taskflow is relevant to the discussion of volume state.   that's all.16:40
thingeewhat is the task-state accomplishing? what exactly does 'creating' currently mean for example?16:40
jgriffithcreating today is a status16:40
jungleboyj_thingee it is telling the user what is happening that they can't see.16:40
jgriffithwhen you say task-state are you referring to the hypothetical yet to exist thing?16:41
hemnaand it means you can't take other actions on the volume while it's in that status.16:41
jgriffithor something else?16:41
thingeeok, so again, it's explaining what 'creating' status currently means.16:41
thingeemore detailed16:41
thingeeas an example16:41
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thingeejgriffith: I'm referring to 'task-state' that you just said a few lines up16:41
jgriffithand NO16:41
jgriffithit's not to describe the status16:42
thingeeI don't know what task-state means and I was just giving an example to understand.16:42
jgriffithit's not to describe what "attaching" means16:42
jungleboyj_thingee that is what I am thinking.  That is what we need to talk about at the summit.16:42
jgriffithI'll try my proposal again....16:42
jgriffithFor example:16:42
jgriffithYou try to extend a volume16:42
akerrdo you mean state=creating, task-state=in progress?16:42
jgriffithThe volume/backend doesn't support extend16:42
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jgriffithThe volume is "fine", just not extended16:43
jgriffithDONT put the volume in error status16:43
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jgriffithSet a taks-status of "extend-failed" or whatever16:43
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jgriffithleave the volume as 'available' and the original size16:43
jgriffithExample 2:16:44
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jgriffithretype from foo to baz16:44
jgriffithbackend doens't support baz, and migration is not enabled16:44
jgriffithDONT set volume to error status and make it unusable16:44
jgriffithSet the task-status to "error-retyp" or whatever16:44
jgriffithLeave the status as "avaialble"16:44
jgriffiththingee: is that clear?16:45
jgriffiththingee: do I need another example?16:45
jungleboyj_jgriffith +216:45
hemnashouldn't we include a tnx history, instead of just the last failure ?16:45
thingeehemna: +116:45
hemnasorry, I'm lazy....transaction16:45
glenngjgriffith + 116:45
jgriffithhemna: maybe...16:45
jungleboyj_hemna one thing at a time.16:45
jgriffithhemna: 1. What would that be16:45
jgriffithhemna: 2. Do you need that first pass16:45
jgriffithhemna: 3. How do you manage it16:45
winston-dhemna: like instance faluts of Nova?16:45
jgriffithwinston-d: yes16:46
thingeejgriffith: I think it's really important to consider this in the design now. If we change our mind later, it's going to be a pain to change on deployed16:46
hemnado we need it right now?  I'd argue that yes, we could use it now :)16:46
jgriffiththingee: I'm not saying that it isn't16:46
thingeeonce deployed*16:46
hemnadoes it have to be done first pass, probably not.16:46
jgriffithhemna: Please answer the first question16:46
akerrmaybe get getting ahead here again, but would want a 3rd field with a more descriptive explanation of why the task failed?16:46
jgriffithhemna: 'what is it'16:46
jungleboyj_The last few states of that volume?16:46
hemnaanother table in the db that tracks transactions and their states/steps/failures16:47
jgriffithjungleboyj_: that's your interpretation... I want hemna 's16:47
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thingeehemna: pretty much what I thought too16:47
jgriffithhemna: for who's consumption?16:47
thingeethe user16:47
ameadehow does the user know there was an error at all (if the status isn't error)?16:47
hemnasoo......that leads me to bring up taskflow again.  Isn't there a built in mechanism to taskflow that tracks the transaction state?16:48
* hemna ducks16:48
hemnajgriffith, for admins16:48
winston-dameade: task status16:48
DuncanT-1hemna: Not really, no. There ought to be, but isn't16:48
jgriffithhemna: so this is why I'm asking "you"16:48
ameadewinston-d: sure that could make sense maybe16:48
jgriffithhemna: you say admins, thingee says users16:48
thingeewinston-d: I think the problem though is how do you know. say the task status already has a value16:48
akerrwinston-d: that assumes the task-status would clear up after some time?16:48
thingeehow do you know it's new?16:48
jgriffithothers may say "ops" etc16:48
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hemnaI dunno, I don't think users should need to see why retype failed, but admins do.16:49
thingeewhat if you get the same status? do you have to keep track of the old status to know a change has happened?16:49
jgriffithI really think that this is being made much more complex than it should be16:49
winston-dakerr: well, task state/status clear doesn't help if you want to find out why the 'retype' request was failed that you invoke 3 days ago.16:49
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hemnaDuncanT-1, ok sounds like we should ping harlowja about adding it then.16:50
jgriffithwhich is part of the problem I have with existing things (like taskflow)16:50
jungleboyj_ jgriffith +216:50
DuncanT-1hemna: Not simple, since taskflow currently isn't built in a way it can usefully track it16:50
winston-dakerr: and after that you also did a bunch of new operations to the voluem16:50
thingeejgriffith: I think the current thought is more simplified than it should be. I'm trying to figure out how people would use it.16:50
thingeehow it would look in clients like horizon16:50
jgriffiththingee: the same as it looks in Nova for example16:50
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ameadefwiw, i think typically in a RESTful api what is usually done is the user would create a new 'retype' resource and they can poll that to see the status of the task16:51
ameadebut that of course makes no sense in our current design16:51
jungleboyj_add a timestamp perhaps?16:52
thingeejgriffith: so I'm totally in agreement with going back to available status. +1000. But if extend fails..the user tries twice...they get the same task state back. I guess that's fine and maybe a timestamp of when that task state was updated?16:52
thingeejust so you know something finished?16:52
winston-dSo Nova has |Status|Task|InstanceFaults|16:52
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jgriffithwinston-d: sure16:53
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DuncanT-1backend_not_supported doesn't mean anything to an end users tennant though16:54
jgriffithDuncanT-1: yeah, I'd suggest that field be admin16:54
akerrthingee: so I suppose a task history would come in handy there — cinder task-history <uuid> -> | Task | Outcome | Timestamp |16:54
jgriffithbut again I think we're getting ahead of ourselves a bit16:54
winston-dDuncanT-1: instance falut is for admins16:54
DuncanT-1Ok, that makes sense16:54
hemnaDuncanT-1, unless you want to portray it as that action is not available16:54
hemnasince it will always fail16:54
jgriffith5 minute warning16:55
winston-dakerr: try logstash with request ID16:55
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DuncanT-1Or stacky with the same16:56
jgriffithyeah, please don't suggest duplicating the log files in some API call16:56
thingeewinston-d: I still don't think it helps in knowing if a task finished when you retry a failed task.16:56
thingeefrom the user's standpoint16:56
thingeeor client16:56
jgriffithMy suggestion was that running a new task 'always' clears the previous task-state16:56
jgriffithset's it to None at the onset16:57
jungleboyj_give the user as much info as possible.   Eventually it helps the admin is well.16:57
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hemnajungleboyj_, hey, user here is a nice fat stacktrace for you.  good luck. :P16:57
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DuncanT-1jungleboyj_: Disagree. Far too easy for the user to start guessing what the problem is and get completely the wrong end of the stick16:57
jgriffithhemna: and so much for the abstraction16:57
glenngOr confuses them. Seeing old error info may hinder when current operation worked.16:57
thingeejgriffith: would that be obvious to someone new? I'm trying to remember if on certain operations we list the volume/snapshot or whatever details before doing certain actions16:57
jungleboyj_hemna ... Not that much.16:58
hemna:P  good.16:58
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thingeejgriffith: It's not an obvious thing to me that a field would be cleared on a new action.16:58
jgriffiththingee: it's a hell of a lot more obvious that silently not extending or setting the volume to error because something isn't supported16:58
hemnaother than the current volume state, all the admin has now are log stacktraces...if that.16:58
jgriffiththingee: when you run an API cmd and see the field change it seems obvious to me16:59
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thingeejgriffith: I agree it's better. I'm just saying if we're going to revamp this, lets be careful and consider these things so we're not repeating ourselves.16:59
jungleboyj_hemna backend_not_supported doesn't seem dangerous though.16:59
DuncanT-1hemna: Good drivers log lots of useful info of their own too... if yours doesn't, talk to your vendor16:59
jgriffiththingee: fair enough16:59
hemnajungleboyj_, +116:59
jgriffithDuncanT-1: +116:59
thingeeDuncanT-1: +116:59
bswartz+1 for log spam17:00
jgriffithWe've succesfully burned our hour17:00
hemnaDuncanT-1, ours does a good job of logging failures/reasons.   I'm just saying in general though that's not overly useful to an admin17:00
jgriffithI'll get a session for this proposed17:00
thingeealso with that, reviewers should be encouraging driver changes to give great logs to cinder users!17:00
jgriffithand have some code for ATL17:00
hemnabecause it takes for fricking ever to find the error in the log on a busy system.17:00
jgriffiththanks everyone17:00
hemnaforcing admins to have to look in the log, is the wrong approach IMO17:00
jungleboyj_thingee my favorite thing to do.17:00
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tjones#startmeeting vmwareapi17:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 16 17:01:07 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tjones. Information about MeetBot at
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'vmwareapi'17:01
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tjoneshi folks - who is here today?17:01
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tjoneshey dims - haven't seen you around in a while - welcome17:02
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dimstjones, :)17:02
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tjonesok mdbooth - i wanted to get an update from you - so lets flip the agenda for a minute and go right to pyvmomi.  last meeting you and ssurana were going to look into it.  any progress?17:03
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tjones#topic pyvmomi17:03
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sabariHey all17:04
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tjonesmdbooth: im guessing no progress since no response.  I'll ping again next week17:05
tjoneslets move on to BP17:05
tjones#topic Blueprints17:05
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tjonesanyone have something they would like to discuss here?17:06
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brownenot sure what to do with
browneJoe Gordon reviewed the nova-spec and would like a more general solution that addresses passwords for rabbit, database connections, etc17:08
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tjonesthanks was just searching for that17:08
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tjoneshis comment makes sense and i wonder if it should be something in oslo then?17:09
brownemight need to go back to the drawing board and propose something different17:09
tjonesbrowne: that's ok (to restart)17:09
mdboothSorry, was driving. Also, I'm on a phone.17:09
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brownenobody likes the idea of encrypting those password strings either.17:10
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tjonesmdbooth: lets wait to talk until you are out of the car17:10
mdboothThen I'll be gone17:10
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mdboothI can catch up tomorrow, though17:11
tjonesmdbooth: that's fine.  thanks17:11
mdboothHave looked at pyvmomi17:11
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tjonesbrowne: im looking - it doesn't look like what you have proposed is very far off from a general solution at 1st glance17:11
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mdboothtjones: ok, will lurk until I disconnect17:11
brownefyi, the ssh key injection blueprint, might be a no-op.17:12
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sabaribrowne: did you get a chance to try cloud-init images ?17:12
browneafter talking with sabari and researching, ssh key injection should already work as long as the image has cloud-init installed17:12
brownesabari: still working on downloading ubuntu 13.  taking forever17:12
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tjonesbrowne: cool17:12
sabaribrowne: :)17:13
browneour default debian image does not have cloud-init17:13
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tjonesbrowne: we should prob build a new one with it17:13
tjonesso anything else on BP?17:13
browneand can't be installed either since cloud-init is in the unstable/testing repo of debian.  i tried with no luck17:13
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mdboothLibguestfs is excellent at guest mods17:13
* mdbooth used to work on it17:14
mdboothCan detect guest os17:14
brownelooked at libguestfs, which i think gets complicated with vcenter in there17:14
mdboothDoesn't have to17:14
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browneplus it requires ssh enabled, no?17:15
mdboothIt could use https with light mods17:15
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brownemdbooth: ok, maybe we can get together and discuss later.  i'd like to understand more17:16
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* mdbooth still has commit on libguestfs 17:16
tjones#action browne and mdbooth discuss libguestfs offline17:16
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tjonesany other BP for discussion?17:17
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tjonesok moving on to the summitt17:18
tjones#topic summit17:18
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tjoneswe have very few talks proposed for the summit - only 2 so far.  the deadline for proposal is the 20th (4 days from now)17:18
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tjonesany topics specific to the vmware driver that we need to discuss at the summit?17:19
sabarihost/node was something I wanted to talk about but it's already part of
dimstjones, has anyone picked up the new abstraction layer for vcenter/hyperv/ovirt stuff that we know of?17:20
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dimsah same topic as sabari's question :)17:20
tjonesdims: kinda - take a look at and see if that is what you mean17:21
brownei believe i saw on the ML there was a 3rd CI topic.  might want to attend that one17:21
browne3rd party CI17:21
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tjonesanything else we are missing?17:22
dimsany progress/talk about how oslo.vmware should work?17:23
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tjonesdims: that could be very useful17:23
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tjonesdims: do you want to propose that ?17:24
sabaritjones: is there something about standardizing image metadata across hypervisors ?17:24
sabariI am not able to find, but I remember was discussed at the mid-cycle.17:24
dimstjones, i was hoping the people working on it actively would17:24
tjonesdims: i can talk to them.  i don't think they are at this meeting today17:24
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dimspossibly arnaud?17:24
sabaritjones: can check with vipin, garyk, arnaud17:24
tjonesyes they are the ones i was thinking of17:25
tjones#link http://summit.openstack.org17:25
tjonessabari: i don't see anything that looks like that17:25
sabaritjones: okay, not something I wanted to propose, but wanted to be part of :)17:26
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tjoneswell proposing just means you could lead the discussion17:26
tjonesyou don't have to have all the answers17:26
tjones#action ask vipin, arnaud, gary to propose a session on using oslo.vmware17:27
dims+1 assign work to folks who are not here :)17:27
sabaritjones: but i don't intent to standardize it yet :)17:27
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tjones#action see if anyone want to lead a session on standardizing image meta-data17:27
tjoneswhat about the issue that came up during image cache - multiple n-cpu accessing the same datastore and potentially messing eachother up (that's the technical description)17:29
tjones that could be part of a17:30
sabarihmm yup that's a problem because all of them will try to fill up the temp directory.17:30
tjonessabari: yes there are several issues there17:30
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sabarineed to understand what ll happen with arnaud's patch with locking in place17:30
sabarilet me post it17:31
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tjonesok any other summit topics?17:31
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sabariI will investigate or check with him17:31
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tjonesok thanks17:32
tjonesok lets talk about refactoring17:32
tjones#topic refactoring17:32
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tjonesthe phase 1 patches are all in and i am rebasing over and over as they get reviewed17:32
tjonesshawn has the phase 2 in review and there are issues and jenkins issues too.17:33
sabarithere some pep8 failures or so17:33
tjonesvui is not here unfortunately to talk about his part17:33
tjonessabari: i fixed that this am and rebased17:34
sabaritjones: great!17:34
tjonesplease help out an review the phase 1 patches listed in #link
brownewill do17:35
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tjones#topic other patches17:35
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tjonesany other patches people want to discuss?17:35
tjones#topic bugs17:37
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sabaristrangely the bug fix patches are MIA :) should take a look at the bugs and look for imp ones.17:37
sabariawesome :)17:37
tjoneswe have a bunch of un-owned bugs  - here is an ugly link17:37
tjones13 with no owner.  help yourself to a bug ;-)17:38
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tjonessabari: which ones were you referring to?17:38
tjoneshere's an ugly link to the inprogress bugs17:39
tjonessorry should use a tinyyrl17:39
sabaritjones: nothing in particular, I was just looking for new reviews and there were far less bug fixes than usual.17:40
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sabaritjones: thankts for the links17:41
sabariI ll scout for the important ones.17:41
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tjonesgarryk has a good query but i cannot find it17:43
tjones#topic open discussion17:43
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tjonesanyone have a topic for today?17:43
tjones(btw the link was #link,n,z)17:44
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tjonesif not we can stop early17:45
tjoneslistening for slow typers.....17:45
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tjonesthanks all.  talk to you next week17:46
sabaritjones: okay!17:46
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notmynameswift team meeting time. who's here?19:01
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torgomaticsort of a little bit maybe19:02
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notmyname#startmeeting swift19:02
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 16 19:02:55 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'swift'19:03
notmynamewelcome. I'm on conference wifi, so I've got a lot of lag19:03
notmynameagenda this week is19:03
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notmyname#topic status of in-process functional tests19:04
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notmynameportante this is your topic19:04
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portantesorry for joining late19:04
notmynameportante: you're up :-)19:04
portanteso in-process func tests19:05
notmynamewhat's going on? what do you need?19:05
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portantein-process functional tests have been posted for review19:05
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portantethey enable us to run the full suite of functional tests without using an external swift cluster19:06
portantefor example: tox -e func19:06
portanteor in a development environment, ./.functests, will just work19:06
portantewith this we can generate coverage of core swift code from just the functional tests19:06
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portanteand, if one is so inclined,19:06
peluseportante:  dumb question but how does this differ from running ./.functests in my SAIO?19:07
portantewrite new functional tests easier, since debugging can be done much easier19:07
portantein your SAIO, you use: startmain; ./.functests19:07
cschwedepeluse: you don’t need a SAIO19:07
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portantethe startmain starts up all the daemon processes seaprately19:07
portantehere, with in-process, there are no daemon processes19:08
peluseOK, I'll take it for a spin19:08
creihtportante: were you able to hook up the coverage report stuff with the inprocess func tests?19:08
portanteit is all run within the one process19:08
portanteyes, it just works19:08
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notmynameportante: how so? we get a coverage report at the end?19:08
portanteI believe so19:08
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portantebut that may be from tox, I might have to check .functests to see19:08
creihtI think that is one of the biggest benefits of having the in-process functests19:09
portanteto me, the motivation was to step through functional tests to review code to see if it was doing what it said19:09
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portantewhat I am hoping we can do with this is make sure the storage policies is thoroughly tested19:10
portanteI'd like to think we can use the coverage reports to help catch what needs shoring up19:10
cschwedei really like the approach, because it speeds up this whole „python … install ; swift-init restart ; .functests“ a lot19:10
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portanteyes, that is another benefit19:10
portantethere would no longer be any execuse for a dev not to first run func tests19:11
* peluse wasn't aware there was an excuse today19:11
portantein theory, one could do this with probe tests as well, but that will be another effort19:11
notmynameportante: what do you need from the rest of us?19:11
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portantereview and testing19:11
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portanteduring this development, it was clear that there are *many* ways folks use the functional tests and in different setups19:12
portanteso need to make sure folks are comfortable with the behaviors19:12
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portantethere is an environment variable to explicitly turn them on/off19:12
portantebut if you don't have a /etc/swift/test.conf, it will now run them in-process instead of skipping them19:12
portanteadditionally, there are two patches left to get in for this19:13
portantewhich is a base dependency to shore up constraint usage in the functional tests19:13
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portantewhich is the actual in-process patch set19:13
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portantethere have been a number of very useful go-rounds of these pathes, and want to make sure the various sub-groups of devs (rax, eno, hp, ss) get eyes on them19:14
portanteonce this lands, I'd like to see them as part of the check/gate jobs as well19:15
portanteany feedback, questions, concerns, or throw-portante-off-a-bus things that need to be said?19:15
portantebueller, bueller19:15
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peluseI'll bang on it with SP and Yuanz's new SP functional tests19:16
notmynamethey are today, aren't they?19:16
claygthere's patches, they need reviews - got it19:16
notmynameclayg: do you have any concerns on it for this meeting?19:16
torgomaticdid folks ever figure out what they wanted as far as constraint precedence? there was a lot of back-and-forth on that19:16
portanteI believe that has settled out in the first patch above, 8671019:16
torgomaticok, thanks19:16
claygnotmyname: i don't think so, i'll checkup on how the test.conf stuff shook out19:17
portantess, rh and hp looked at things so far, but would love reps from the other orgs to consider it as well19:18
notmynameportante: anything else on that topic?19:18
portantenothing on my end19:18
notmynameok, thanks19:18
creihtportante: yeah it is on my list19:18
notmyname#topic final Icehouse (Swift 1.13.1) check19:18
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notmynameanything that has come up that warrants a backport to 1.13.1? this is the final call19:19
creihtnotmyname: not that I am aware of19:19
notmynamecreiht: thanks19:19
notmynameclayg: portante: peluse: anythign from your end?19:19
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portantenothing here19:20
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claygnotmyname: there's a few open bugs that are like weird, account-reaper, container-updater, object tombstones, I don't think any of them are regressions - but like... idk there out there19:21
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claygyeah we need to do some bug triage19:24
claygbut I don't know of anything that seems to have broken as of late19:24
notmynameok, I'll pass on to ttx that 1.13.1-rc2 is good to go for icehouse19:25
notmyname#topic Oslo liason19:25
notmynamethe oslo project is asking each project to nominate a core dev to be a liason to oslo19:25
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notmynamesee that link19:25
notmynameand I'll be asking for a volunteer :-)19:25
notmyname#topic storage policy status update19:25
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notmynameclayg: peluse: how's it going?19:25
ttxnotmyname: received19:25
peluse_working on docs mainly but doing so I discovered 3 gaps in current policy work on feature/ec19:25
peluse_2 of them are here: SP support for recon middleware and container sync are ready for eyes at
creihtprobably shouldn't be me :)19:25
peluse_third is SP support for acct reaper which I'll tackle next19:25
claygcreiht: should *totally* be you!19:25
creihtnotmyname: I can do it if you need19:26
portanteI second creiht nomination of himself19:26
creihtI'll try to be nice :)19:26
peluse_thanks everyone who has been reviewing the doc patch BTW, appreciate all the edits/feedback19:27
claygpeluse_: notmyname: making progress on the reconciler, moved on to some more stuff in the container-replicator (where there's more cleanup and tests falling out) - I'm starting converge on a hybridization of torgomatic approach and my original thoughts on the subject that is starting feel pretty good19:27
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torgomaticclayg: i'll definitely be interested to see that19:27
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clayglast night I started everything up and when all chaos monkey on my saio putting objects and containers all over the place, and the damn thing is to a point now where I'm gunna have think pretty hard to come up with something that will break it19:28
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claygit's starting to feel "like swift" - turn one thing of and something else picks up the slack - break it over here - and when it starts back up it puts thing back in order19:28
portantecool, perhaps encode that in probe tests / functional tests?19:29
claygportante: yeah I have a few19:29
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portanteclayg: great, I am out on vacation next week, but when I come back I can help review and/or write more probe tests if you have ideas for some19:32
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notmynameMoving to cell phone irc client19:32
claygnotmyname: lol19:32
peluse_portante:  not related to SP, but can you take another quick look at before you head out for R&R?19:33
notmynameI have no idea what's been said in here :)19:33
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portantenot much19:34
peluse_is it Fri yet?19:34
portanterest and relaxation19:34
notmynameAnything said about when policy patches might be proposed to master?19:34
peluse_US military term, sorry19:34
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claygnotmyname: peluse_ and I already both already have some up?19:34
notmynameOk :)19:35
peluse_notmyname:  as I understand it we still want to go with the 'complete' picture staged approach right?  So we need the couple I mentioned before reviewd, clayg's stuff and the acct repaer before we can propose anything SP specifuc19:35
claygor are you asking when the reconciler and the reaper and docs and all the other stuff is going to be done?19:35
notmynameYes that :)19:35
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notmynameWhat peluse mentioned is good19:36
peluse_I don't think repaer will take long, docs are coming along nicely I think so when clayg is ready I'll be ready :)19:36
* clayg has total faith in peluse_ 19:37
notmynameWhat else needs to be brought up on storage policies in this meeting?19:37
peluse_I think we need to rebase feature/ec19:38
claygrebase - or just merge master down again?19:38
notmynameMerge master in?19:38
claygit was an either or question :P19:38
notmynameAh ok19:38
peluse_whatever we've been doing :)19:38
notmynameThat thing. Do more of it19:39
claygnice - yeah never hurts to get those upstream changes on feature/ec19:39
peluse_will save ys pain later if we keep doing it weekly19:39
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notmynameI can work on that19:40
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notmynameAnything else?19:40
peluse_dont think so19:41
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notmyname#topic open discussion19:41
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peluse_well, one more quick plug for docs.  Please read if you can:
notmynameYes. The docs patch is an essential starting point19:42
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notmynameWhat else would you like to discuss in the meeting right now?19:42
cschwedepeluse_: actual, it’s a great way to get into SP! nice work19:42
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notmynameIf there is nothing else, let's adjourn this meeting19:44
notmynameThanks for coming19:44
peluse_rock on man... thanks19:44
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