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| slong | loquacities, meeting today? | 03:08 |
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| loquacities | oh crud, i forgot completely! | 03:08 |
| loquacities | sure, yes | 03:08 |
| slong | :D | 03:08 |
| loquacities | gimme one sec | 03:09 |
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| loquacities | #startmeeting docteam | 03:09 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 30 03:09:57 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is loquacities. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:09 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 03:10 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' | 03:10 |
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| slong | loquacities: good afternoon :) | 03:10 |
| loquacities | hello! | 03:10 |
| loquacities | thanks for reminding me slong :) | 03:10 |
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| slong | deepti was on it! | 03:10 |
| loquacities | welcome Sam-I-Am | 03:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hello | 03:10 |
| dnavale | hi loquacities | 03:10 |
| loquacities | nice work dnavale :) | 03:10 |
| slong | man, do you ever sleep, Sam-I-Am? | 03:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | slong: sometimes. perhaps i'm just part of the cloud. | 03:11 |
| loquacities | i think my little team is all off having lunch and stuff | 03:11 |
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| loquacities | Sam-I-Am: you've been working too hard clearly :P | 03:11 |
| slong | Sam-I-Am: definitely. | 03:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | loquacities: naahhh :P | 03:12 |
| brucer | Hi there | 03:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | its calmed down a lot since release | 03:12 |
| loquacities | hey brucer | 03:12 |
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| loquacities | #topic Action items from the last meeting | 03:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from the last meeting (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 03:12 | |
| loquacities | annegentle to send post about doc tools requirements to openstack-docs mailing list | 03:12 |
| loquacities | i think she did that, yes? | 03:12 |
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| loquacities | everyone look at the requirements listing in http://justwriteclick.com/2014/04/10/tearing-down-obstacles-to-openstack-documentation-contributions/ and give feedback on the openstack-docs mailing list | 03:13 |
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| loquacities | has everyone done the survey? | 03:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | i have | 03:14 |
| loquacities | yay | 03:14 |
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| slong | thought only operators were asked? | 03:14 |
| slong | d.... wrong one. sorry, not yet. | 03:15 |
| loquacities | "If you’ve contributed to OpenStack" | 03:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's also a potential doc talk on 'patching the docs process' at the summit | 03:15 |
| loquacities | excellent | 03:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | which would include a variety of things | 03:15 |
| loquacities | i'm sad i won't get there | 03:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | whaaaaat???? | 03:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | -1 on that | 03:15 |
| slong | loquacities: thought you'd be there? | 03:15 |
| loquacities | nah, sorry | 03:15 |
| loquacities | single parent, etc | 03:15 |
| slong | Sam-I-Am: that talk is definitely on the schedule. | 03:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | kids pack into luggage well | 03:16 |
| loquacities | it's tough for me to go to the US more than once or twice a year | 03:16 |
| slong | loquacities: bummer | 03:16 |
| loquacities | not this one ;) | 03:16 |
| slong | loquacities: would have been nice to share the jet lag. | 03:16 |
| loquacities | yeah, too right | 03:16 |
| loquacities | #topic Icehouse release | 03:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Icehouse release (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 03:16 | |
| Sam-I-Am | slong: you and fifield can share | 03:16 |
| slong | he doesn't get jet lag anymore, is too seasoned. | 03:17 |
| loquacities | so anne wanted to go through what went well/not so well about the release | 03:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | wow, thats... amazing | 03:17 |
| loquacities | is that really a thing? | 03:17 |
| loquacities | can you *not* get jetlag? | 03:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | i suppose if you can sleep anywhere at anytime its not an issue | 03:17 |
| slong | have met such people. I've never been one myself. | 03:18 |
| slong | NEVER sleep on planes, then die. | 03:18 |
| loquacities | slong: +1 | 03:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont travel outside of the US, so it doesnt affect me much | 03:18 |
| brucer | sleep is for the weak | 03:18 |
| slong | Anyhoo, we'll all do the survey now... Sam-I-Am, it's time. | 03:18 |
| loquacities | what's that brucer? sleep for a week? yes please ;) | 03:18 |
| martinlopes | lol | 03:19 |
| brucer | :-) | 03:19 |
| loquacities | so, highlights/lowlights of icehouse? | 03:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | i need to find a place to travel to | 03:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | loquacities: the install guide seems to work | 03:19 |
| ddomingo | will do | 03:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | not many bug reports, nothing serious at least | 03:19 |
| loquacities | the install guide is a thing of beauty | 03:19 |
| loquacities | excellent | 03:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm occasionally making fixes | 03:19 |
| slong | loquacities: contributor numbers were up. | 03:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | now in the off-season, i'm auditing it for lots of stuff we still need to do | 03:19 |
| loquacities | oh great! | 03:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | plenty of work before juno gets kicking | 03:20 |
| loquacities | yeah, good idea to regroup now | 03:20 |
| slong | Sam-I-Am: did the Install Guide already branch?? | 03:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | not seeing nearly as many issues in the support channel | 03:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | slong: no | 03:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think its going to branch just before the summit at the latest | 03:21 |
| slong | tg, thought I'd come back as Rip Van... | 03:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | we were waiting to see if there were any significant bugs | 03:21 |
| slong | Good, have been trying to get bug fixes in. | 03:21 |
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| loquacities | #topic O'Reilly Ops Guide status | 03:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "O'Reilly Ops Guide status (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 03:22 | |
| loquacities | 14:22:26 <annegentle> With amazing publishing prowess, O'Reilly will be sending us an epub today or tomorrow for us to post | 03:22 |
| loquacities | 14:22:38 <annegentle> I need to write a blog entry for OpenStack.org | 03:22 |
| loquacities | 14:23:02 <annegentle> There will be copies at the Summit | 03:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | i havent heard anything new on that | 03:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | i need a copy though | 03:22 |
| loquacities | ^^ c&p from the last US meeting | 03:22 |
| loquacities | yeah, i'd love a copy too :) | 03:22 |
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| loquacities | slong: can you pick one up for me at summit? ;) | 03:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | which reminds me, we need to work on the havana->icehouse upgrade process | 03:23 |
| slong | Sure, will post it back...email me your address. | 03:23 |
| loquacities | will do | 03:23 |
| loquacities | thanks slong :) | 03:23 |
| loquacities | Sam-I-Am: good point | 03:23 |
| * Sam-I-Am shudders at the thought | 03:23 | |
| slong | np | 03:23 |
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| slong | Bits have started to be added to that task. | 03:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think we need to nail down the precise things we will test | 03:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | too many permutations | 03:24 |
| loquacities | agreed | 03:24 |
| slong | Sam-I-Am: You're definitely the best person to do it :D | 03:24 |
| loquacities | heh | 03:24 |
| * Sam-I-Am hides | 03:24 | |
| loquacities | +1 | 03:24 |
| * Sam-I-Am -2's himself | 03:24 | |
| loquacities | you can't hide :P | 03:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | we need more contributors! | 03:25 |
| slong | not at all. | 03:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | hopefully we can get more by improving the process | 03:25 |
| loquacities | #topic Doc contribution survey - please post everywhere | 03:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Doc contribution survey - please post everywhere (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 03:25 | |
| loquacities | we already mentioned that | 03:25 |
| loquacities | moving on | 03:25 |
| loquacities | #topic Doc tools news | 03:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Doc tools news (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 03:25 | |
| loquacities | 14:28:14 <annegentle> I noticed this week that the api-site wasn't building what I thought should be built on draft-docs.openstack so AJaeger is already addressing | 03:26 |
| loquacities | 14:28:47 <annegentle> oh and dianefleming has requested a new release of the clouddocs-maven-plugin | 03:26 |
| loquacities | 14:28:55 <annegentle> that'll get us the PDF links for the API references | 03:26 |
| slong | tg for ajaeger | 03:26 |
| loquacities | indeed | 03:26 |
| loquacities | 14:29:37 <annegentle> yes we won't update the version for openstack-manuals pom.xml files | 03:26 |
| loquacities | 14:29:46 <annegentle> just for api-site pom.xml | 03:26 |
| loquacities | i think that's all the salient points | 03:26 |
| loquacities | did anyone have anything to add to that? | 03:26 |
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| loquacities | #topic Summit doc track decisions | 03:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit doc track decisions (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 03:27 | |
| loquacities | #link http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/topicstatus | 03:27 |
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| slong | I saw that Anne had pushed the topics | 03:27 |
| loquacities | 14:36:17 <annegentle> that link shows how "oversubscribed" some of the projects are for track talks. We're fine at 5 proposed for 4 slots | 03:27 |
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| loquacities | 14:36:32 <annegentle> #link http://summit.openstack.org/ | 03:28 |
| loquacities | 14:36:48 <annegentle> Take a look at the Doc topics, any we should combine or further open up? | 03:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | we couldnt come up with any good combination options at the last meeting | 03:29 |
| loquacities | the docs talk all look pretty sane to me | 03:29 |
| loquacities | yeah, it'd be hard to combine any of those, i think | 03:29 |
| slong | Interesting though that it doesn't talk about the suite as a whole. | 03:29 |
| slong | What's the next step, etc. | 03:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | in what sense? | 03:29 |
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| slong | Sam-I-Am: Just meant that there's no overview design session | 03:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh... hmmmmm | 03:31 |
| loquacities | slong: i think the fact that there's so much to talk about makes it hard | 03:31 |
| loquacities | forest, trees, etc | 03:31 |
| slong | Yes, and yet a brainstorming about the next big step forward would be interesting. | 03:32 |
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| loquacities | i agree | 03:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | slong: i wonder if that might be mentioned in patching the docs process | 03:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its kind of open | 03:32 |
| loquacities | well, that's about the process itself, though, not the docs? | 03:32 |
| slong | looks like it, doesn't look like suite design. | 03:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | its about a lot of things | 03:32 |
| slong | http://junodesignsummit.sched.org/event/ec58d8f3a8cb2a4779312e31b7473866#.U2BuzHWSyVc | 03:33 |
| slong | Anyhoo, might hijack a lunch sometime. | 03:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think i'm not understanding the idea of suite design | 03:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | so you're talking about the kind of docs we produce? | 03:34 |
| slong | Exactly. Are we hitting our audiences, what's missing, what could be combined. Etc. | 03:34 |
| loquacities | delivery methods, too | 03:34 |
| slong | yep | 03:34 |
| loquacities | whether we should drop books, or write more, or merge some | 03:34 |
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| loquacities | etc | 03:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | good point. well, there is supposedly a lunch in between our sessions | 03:35 |
| slong | god, they'd better let me eat! | 03:35 |
| slong | :D | 03:35 |
| loquacities | #topic Installation guide | 03:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Installation guide (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 03:35 | |
| loquacities | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IceHouseDocTesting | 03:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | lots of green | 03:36 |
| loquacities | we've already mentioned this, but wanted to say well done to Sam-I-Am in particular | 03:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | thanks! | 03:36 |
| loquacities | green is nice :) | 03:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | still plenty more to do... particularly around the "less popular" sections | 03:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | optional components mainly | 03:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | but right now, everyone should be able to follow it and at least launch a basic instance | 03:36 |
| loquacities | there's always more to do :) | 03:36 |
| loquacities | that's awesome :) | 03:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | so much to do, so little time. | 03:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | i need a full time install guide job | 03:37 |
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| loquacities | you need to find someone to hire you, Sam-I-Am! | 03:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | tell me about it | 03:37 |
| loquacities | #topic Open discussion | 03:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hopefully the audit will bring some of these things out | 03:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | need more contributors! | 03:38 |
| loquacities | so, i would like to mention that pycon au is on in brisbane in august | 03:38 |
| loquacities | and i'd really like to get a doc sprint or something happening around the time that it's on | 03:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | on which docs? | 03:38 |
| brucer_meeting | on what? | 03:39 |
| brucer_meeting | snap! | 03:39 |
| loquacities | well, that's the question :P | 03:39 |
| loquacities | i was thinking of making it a general "open source docs" thing | 03:39 |
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| loquacities | but i'm open to ideas | 03:39 |
| slong | Narrow it down and I'm there :) | 03:39 |
| loquacities | to what do you think? | 03:39 |
| slong | Perhaps something will come out of Summit. | 03:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | slong: thats what i'm thinking | 03:40 |
| loquacities | true, but it's cutting it fine | 03:40 |
| slong | True. | 03:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | maybe improve the networking stuff? :P | 03:40 |
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| loquacities | that would be nice | 03:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | more example configs, etc... maybe stemming from the install guide archs | 03:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's a blueprint floating around for those things, but time... all about time. | 03:41 |
| loquacities | Sam-I-Am: maybe this is the excuse you need to travel? ;) | 03:41 |
| loquacities | brisbane is lovely this time of year! | 03:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | updating the install guide kind of kicked my butt | 03:41 |
| slong | Sam-I-Am: sounds good. What's the blueprint? | 03:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | slong: hold on | 03:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/improve-networking-cloud-admin-guide | 03:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/create-networking-guide | 03:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | those two mainly | 03:42 |
| slong | ta | 03:43 |
| loquacities | hrm, those could work | 03:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's also the training manuals | 03:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | those guys could use a bump | 03:43 |
| loquacities | i've been pretty much ignoring them | 03:43 |
| loquacities | i'm not sure what help they need at this point | 03:44 |
| slong | I've never understood the training-to-docs relationship. | 03:44 |
| slong | upstream... | 03:44 |
| loquacities | same | 03:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | sounds like they might reference the install guide for their labs, which is good. | 03:44 |
| slong | definitely. | 03:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | less duplication of stuff | 03:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont know much about that group | 03:45 |
| loquacities | same | 03:45 |
| slong | Sounded though like the training group was pretty insular. | 03:45 |
| slong | Got that feel at the bootcamp. | 03:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | i wonder if thats changing given the size of their group | 03:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | and its not really an official project of sorts | 03:46 |
| slong | What is the size of their group? | 03:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | 3 maybe? | 03:46 |
| loquacities | oh | 03:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think pranav salunke runs it | 03:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | also known as dguitarbite on here iirc | 03:47 |
| brucer_meeting | it s maybe more a case of communicatins than being insular. | 03:48 |
| loquacities | yeah, probably | 03:48 |
| slong | Good to know. | 03:48 |
| loquacities | or a bit of both | 03:48 |
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| loquacities | alright, any other business? | 03:49 |
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| loquacities | we have ten minutes left ... | 03:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | not much from here | 03:49 |
| slong | nope | 03:49 |
| brucer_meeting | nope | 03:49 |
| loquacities | excellent | 03:49 |
| loquacities | thanks everyone :) | 03:50 |
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| loquacities | #endmeeting | 03:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 03:50 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 30 03:50:06 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2014/docteam.2014-04-30-03.09.html | 03:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2014/docteam.2014-04-30-03.09.txt | 03:50 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2014/docteam.2014-04-30-03.09.log.html | 03:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | seeya! | 03:50 |
| brucer | cheers | 03:50 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting XenAPI | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 30 15:00:03 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'xenapi' | 15:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | hello all, who is around today? | 15:00 |
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| leifz | *leifz lurking. | 15:00 |
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| * johnthetubaguy has pinged BobBall in the hope he will join us soon | 15:01 | |
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| johnthetubaguy | wel... | 15:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #topic Summit | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 15:03 | |
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| johnthetubaguy | No session, but lets try meet up | 15:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Open Discussion | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 15:03 | |
| johnthetubaguy | anyone got anything else to raise? | 15:03 |
| leifz | not on my side. | 15:04 |
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| BobBall | joesavak: ? | 15:07 |
| BobBall | I mean johnthetubaguy ? | 15:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | hey, its still going | 15:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | just in Open discussion | 15:07 |
| BobBall | hi | 15:07 |
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| BobBall | sorry - I was being interrupted at the worst possible time :) | 15:08 |
| BobBall | Did I miss anything fun in the previous sections? | 15:08 |
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| BobBall | I guess not... :) | 15:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | nope | 15:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | sorry, half in another meeting now | 15:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: was just waiting for you to join | 15:11 |
| BobBall | bad timing then :) | 15:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | nothing much from me, you got anything? | 15:11 |
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| BobBall | Well I could talk some about the CI and gerrit and other fun things that broke this week... but I could just say I fixed a bunch of problems and it's working again. | 15:12 |
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| thingee | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:14 |
| openstack | thingee: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 16:14 |
| thingee | doh | 16:14 |
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| akerr | XenAPI open discussion | 16:14 |
| thingee | did people fall asleep? :) | 16:14 |
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| bswartz | bot fail | 16:15 |
| thingee | oh | 16:15 |
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| avishay | let's just do it in #openstack-cinder? if there will be no minutes anyway... | 16:16 |
| thingee | yeah works for me | 16:16 |
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| thingee | ok cinder folks, #openstack-cinder...we'll just go over some questionable patches | 16:16 |
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| guitarzan | johnthetubaguy: want to kill this meeting? | 16:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sorry | 16:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | #emd-meeting | 16:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | #end-meeting | 16:19 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 16:19 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 30 16:19:45 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2014/xenapi.2014-04-30-15.00.html | 16:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2014/xenapi.2014-04-30-15.00.txt | 16:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2014/xenapi.2014-04-30-15.00.log.html | 16:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | silly keyboard, sorry folks | 16:20 |
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| tjones | #startmeeting VMwareAPI | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 30 17:00:20 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tjones. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vmwareapi' | 17:00 |
| tjones | hi folks - who | 17:00 |
| tjones | is here today? | 17:00 |
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| arnaud | o/ | 17:00 |
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| tjones | anyone else? *arnaud this may be a short meeting ;-)* | 17:02 |
| arnaud | yeah apparently :) | 17:02 |
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| tjones | well lets get started anyway | 17:02 |
| tjones | #topic juno priorities | 17:03 |
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| tjones | I've updated #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vmware-subteam-juno | 17:03 |
| tjones | going down to the bottom in the section "Strategy" i've listed what i think our priorities are in terms of BP | 17:04 |
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| tjones | i ordered it by spawn refactor, BP that missed icehouse and the rest | 17:04 |
| tjones | lets go through status on those. | 17:04 |
| arnaud | sure | 17:04 |
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| tjones | for spawn refactor i have been rebasing and addressing constantly. i have +2 from dansmith on all but 2 of them and matt said he will do a review this afternoon. So i am pleased right now with where we are (though i wish this was last week not this week) | 17:05 |
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| tjones | we don't have vui for the next 2 - vsan, and ova support | 17:05 |
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| tjones | arnaud: how is your clone image handler coming? | 17:06 |
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| arnaud | this is a third bp in a dependency chain | 17:06 |
| tjones | what are the dependencies? | 17:06 |
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| arnaud | a se | 17:06 |
| arnaud | c | 17:06 |
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| arnaud | 1. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/use-glance-v2-api | 17:07 |
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| arnaud | 2. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/image-multiple-location | 17:08 |
| arnaud | 3. the clone bp | 17:08 |
| tjones | ok i see | 17:09 |
| arnaud | I am working on the nova-specs of 1. | 17:09 |
| arnaud | the code is ready | 17:09 |
| arnaud | sort of | 17:09 |
| arnaud | 2. the code is also ready (since it has been merged/backed out in Icehouse), zhiyan is working on the spec | 17:09 |
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| arnaud | 3. code also more or less ready, but need to get the other specs approved | 17:10 |
| arnaud | :) | 17:10 |
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| arnaud | I will focus on having the 1. approved or at least discussed in the coming week | 17:10 |
| tjones | trying to look through all this stuff. do you have the spec links handy? | 17:10 |
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| arnaud | yeah | 17:11 |
| arnaud | 1. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84887/ | 17:11 |
| arnaud | 2. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86583/ | 17:11 |
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| arnaud | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84281/ | 17:12 |
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| arnaud | and 3. should happen after the refactor of course | 17:12 |
| tjones | ok thanks - i have updated the etherpad | 17:12 |
| arnaud | cool thks! | 17:12 |
| tjones | ok so basically we need to get those 3 specs approved within the next week or so | 17:12 |
| arnaud | it would be nice yes | 17:13 |
| tjones | im assuming you are updating, etc. are there specific core reviewers who are interested and reviewing these periodically? | 17:13 |
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| arnaud | but I would say more next week"s" | 17:13 |
| arnaud | yep | 17:13 |
| arnaud | for the first one | 17:14 |
| arnaud | I got comments from john garbutt | 17:14 |
| arnaud | will address them today | 17:14 |
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| tjones | ok i've added the cores who are helping to the etherpad too | 17:14 |
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| tjones | just so we know who to ping if needed | 17:14 |
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| arnaud | sure ok | 17:14 |
| tjones | anything else on those BP? | 17:14 |
| arnaud | no that's it | 17:15 |
| tjones | look like we don't have garyk or sabari here today either :-( | 17:15 |
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| tjones | hartsocks: last week you said you wanted to finish up https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/improve-vmware-disk-usage | 17:15 |
| tjones | do you happen to have the spec review link for that one? | 17:16 |
| tjones | or i can dig it up | 17:16 |
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| tjones | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86074/ | 17:17 |
| tjones | hartsocks: you here? | 17:17 |
| tjones | wow - i am really not feeling the love today | 17:17 |
| arnaud | :) | 17:17 |
| vuil | sorry just joined. | 17:17 |
| arnaud | is this coming from icehouse? | 17:17 |
| vuil | hi | 17:17 |
| arnaud | hi vuil | 17:17 |
| tjones | hurrah! vuil | 17:18 |
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| vuil | yep. from like grizzly | 17:18 |
| tjones | arnaud: that one is coming from havana | 17:18 |
| tjones | yeah | 17:18 |
| arnaud | I see | 17:18 |
| tjones | ok lets leave that one and go back to vuil | 17:18 |
| tjones | vuil: we are reviewing the prio and status of our Juno BP work | 17:18 |
| tjones | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vmware-subteam-juno | 17:18 |
| tjones | you have some refactor (waiting on me i know), vsan and ova support. | 17:19 |
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| vuil | yep. you looking for the priority order? | 17:19 |
| tjones | what's the status on the BP reviews for vsan and ova and do you have the spec links handy? | 17:19 |
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| vuil | a sec | 17:19 |
| tjones | yes - starting with the bottom section marked "Strategy for Juno" | 17:19 |
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| vuil | ova: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86395/ | 17:20 |
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| vuil | that's approved. | 17:20 |
| tjones | hurray! | 17:20 |
| vuil | vsan: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85635/ | 17:21 |
| vuil | approved too | 17:21 |
| tjones | awesome. so you are just waiting for the refactor to finish so you can rebase and start the review process on these? | 17:21 |
| vuil | Thanks to the reviewers, esp John. | 17:21 |
| vuil | yep. | 17:21 |
| arnaud | nice | 17:21 |
| tjones | is there significant changes to the design/code from icehouse? | 17:22 |
| vuil | other than reacting to the refactor work, no. | 17:22 |
| tjones | awesome! | 17:22 |
| vuil | (but that's a fair amount of reacting to :-)) | 17:22 |
| tjones | in terms of prio do you think this list is correct? | 17:22 |
| tjones | you meaning everyone here - not just vuil | 17:23 |
| vuil | *looking* | 17:23 |
| tjones | and also have i missed anything? | 17:24 |
| arnaud | this look correct | 17:24 |
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| vuil | oslo integration? | 17:24 |
| vuil | the 1.0001? | 17:24 |
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| tjones | added it to the end | 17:25 |
| vuil | that needs to come right after spawn refactor | 17:25 |
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| tjones | there | 17:25 |
| vuil | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85469/, it is approved | 17:25 |
| vuil | as well | 17:25 |
| vuil | vsan/ova needs it | 17:26 |
| tjones | vuil: are you doing that one too? | 17:26 |
| vuil | yep | 17:26 |
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| tjones | ok - so with spawn refactor - the issues i am addressing now are all test related, so you probably can pull down those patches and start working | 17:26 |
| tjones | i have +2 on all except for 2 and the comments are test comments | 17:27 |
| tjones | and have been for the last week or so | 17:27 |
| vuil | I have done that, and updated the phase 2 patch that shawn posted. | 17:27 |
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| tjones | ok good. im working as fast/hard as possible on those. im hoping its close | 17:27 |
| tjones | anything else on BP? | 17:28 |
| vuil | thanks. | 17:28 |
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| tjones | #topic juno summit | 17:29 |
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| tjones | anything new to discuss here? | 17:29 |
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| dims | main thing i see is the "Clustered hypervisor support in Nova" design session | 17:30 |
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| tjones | yes that's an important one | 17:30 |
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| tjones | that is wednesday the 14th at 9:50 am BTW | 17:31 |
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| tjones | lets all make sure to attend and participate in that one | 17:31 |
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| tjones | anything else for the summit? | 17:32 |
| dims | we will have to find time to talk about oslo.vmware future | 17:32 |
| dims | could not get a session allocated in the oslo slots | 17:32 |
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| arnaud | +1 dims | 17:32 |
| tjones | should we just meet for lunch or do you want to have an uncondference or ?? | 17:32 |
| dims | either would be fine | 17:32 |
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| tjones | #action meet at the summit to discuss oslo.vmware futures | 17:33 |
| dims | those were my top 2 TODO's :) | 17:33 |
| tjones | dims: you got it | 17:33 |
| tjones | #topic bugs | 17:33 |
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| tjones | i just took a peek and didn't see anything needing discussion. does anyone have a bug they want to talk about? | 17:34 |
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| tjones | we have a lot of bugs - 61 | 17:34 |
| tjones | ok lets move on | 17:34 |
| tjones | #topic open discussion | 17:34 |
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| tjones | anyone want to talk about anything? | 17:35 |
| tjones | vmwareapi related ;-) | 17:35 |
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| dims | :) | 17:35 |
| tjones | ok sounds like we can have a short meeting today | 17:36 |
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| tjones | i can get back to fixing my spawn refactor tests :0 | 17:36 |
| tjones | :-D | 17:36 |
| dims | so we may have to cut oslo.vmware before the oslo integration review can be worked on again i think | 17:36 |
| tjones | ah ok | 17:36 |
| dims | there were fixes to exceptions.py in oslo.vmware that were needed by vui's patch | 17:37 |
| dims | for oslo integration | 17:37 |
| arnaud | I still have this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80120/ to fix | 17:37 |
| vuil | agreed dims. | 17:37 |
| arnaud | glance needs 0.3 | 17:37 |
| arnaud | for SPBM | 17:37 |
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| vuil | thanks for the oslo.vmwarwe update btw, much needed | 17:37 |
| dims | arnaud, can you please ping dhellmann and work it out please? | 17:37 |
| arnaud | yep I was planning to do that today | 17:37 |
| dims | nice | 17:38 |
| tjones | i have to admit i don't know the process for cutting a new oslo.vmware | 17:38 |
| arnaud | I have been busy last days | 17:38 |
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| tjones | can someone explain? | 17:38 |
| tjones | hmmm maybe offline then | 17:39 |
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| tjones | anything else? | 17:40 |
| tjones | *listening for slow typers* | 17:40 |
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| tjones | ok thanks all. have a good week | 17:41 |
| tjones | #endmeeting | 17:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 30 17:41:22 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vmwareapi/2014/vmwareapi.2014-04-30-17.00.html | 17:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vmwareapi/2014/vmwareapi.2014-04-30-17.00.txt | 17:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vmwareapi/2014/vmwareapi.2014-04-30-17.00.log.html | 17:41 |
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| notmyname | swift meeting time | 19:01 |
| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 19:01 |
| peluse_ | rock and roll | 19:01 |
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| notmyname | no meet bot? | 19:01 |
| notmyname | who's here? | 19:01 |
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| zaitcev | o/ | 19:01 |
| chmouel | o/ | 19:01 |
| tdasilva | hello | 19:01 |
| portante | o/ | 19:01 |
| acoles | hi | 19:01 |
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| notmyname | not sure if we'll get a meetbot or not | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 30 19:01:38 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 19:01 |
| notmyname | ah ok then | 19:01 |
| portante | o/ | 19:01 |
| peluse_ | welcome meetbot | 19:02 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 19:02 |
| notmyname | agenda for this week | 19:02 |
| notmyname | I've been catching up after being out last week (and a little bit of news stuff this morning...) | 19:02 |
| notmyname | so let's see where we are | 19:03 |
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| notmyname | looks like there are been some patches landing (yay) | 19:03 |
| notmyname | the correct version is making it's way through zuul now | 19:03 |
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| notmyname | what happened is that the bot had a bug, so the milestone-proposed branch never got merged | 19:04 |
| portante | whoops | 19:04 |
| notmyname | then it got fixed, but seemingly fell through the cracks with the gerrit upgrade and heartbleed stuff | 19:04 |
| notmyname | so it was only just this morning retriggered | 19:04 |
| portante | so once that merges and we rebase we should be good? | 19:05 |
| notmyname | so that means the window of inaccurate version numbers was a little longer, but ya--should be fine after that lands | 19:05 |
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| notmyname | speaking fo patches that have landed recently.... | 19:05 |
| notmyname | #topic in process func tests | 19:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "in process func tests (Meeting topic: swift)" | 19:05 | |
| notmyname | portante: you should be ahppy about that :-) | 19:06 |
| portante | yes | 19:06 |
| portante | we all should be | 19:06 |
| notmyname | :-) | 19:06 |
| notmyname | of course | 19:06 |
| portante | that was not a fun patch to work on, for sure | 19:06 |
| notmyname | and it looks like you're working with -infra to get that added to the auto test suite | 19:06 |
| portante | but I am hoping that it will help us keep the tree more stable as the big sp patches go through | 19:06 |
| portante | yes | 19:06 |
| chmouel | +1 | 19:06 |
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| portante | I am hoping that we can all agree to make sure that new code added is covered by functional tests | 19:07 |
| notmyname | portante: are both the devstack func tests and the in-process func tests needed? should we prefer one over the other? | 19:07 |
| peluse_ | way cool portante, I have yet to do anything policy specific with it but its on my todo list | 19:07 |
| notmyname | my understanding is the main difference is the coverage report for in-process | 19:07 |
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| chmouel | notmyname: the devstack one would test the other openstack components | 19:07 |
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| chmouel | if we don't break them or they don't break us | 19:07 |
| zaitcev | I thought in-process didn't cover something that regular did. I func-tested against Keystone at some point. | 19:07 |
| portante | notmyname: too much, lemme sum up, the six fingered man ... | 19:08 |
| notmyname | that's right. the in-process won't do keystone/ceilometer/glance stuff. but isn't that covered by the tempest suite? | 19:08 |
| portante | notmyname: yes, one main difference is that in-process allows us to track coverage of the main code base under functional test | 19:08 |
| portante | one *could* that with a contrived SAIO installation and running all the servers by hand, but that is more difficult | 19:09 |
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| portante | the second, is that it allows folks to run functional tests quickly without an SAIO, so that there should be little excuse for not running functional tests before a commit is made | 19:10 |
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| notmyname | portante: `tox -e func` right? | 19:10 |
| portante | yes | 19:10 |
| chmouel | notmyname: the tempest suite is not as comprehensive as the swift functional tests | 19:10 |
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| notmyname | chmouel: right | 19:10 |
| notmyname | I'm not opposed to running both if they test different things, but I don't want to add multiple runs of the same effective test if it's not adding any value | 19:11 |
| portante | I'd like to see folks look for gaps in coverage during reviews and help out by adding tests that increase the coverage | 19:11 |
| notmyname | that's the outstanding question I have about adding it to jenkins | 19:11 |
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| portante | notmyname: I see the in-process tests in the gate as a way to make sure a commit does keep them from working | 19:12 |
| portante | Now if we started tracking coverage of the project ... | 19:12 |
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| zaitcev | I prefer to make sure a commit did not keep from working. | 19:12 |
| portante | there are jobs that run coverage specifically after a patch lands, and that would be need to get that information public and easikly viewable | 19:13 |
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| notmyname | yup | 19:13 |
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| * notmyname imagines a graph on his desktop of historic swift code test coverage | 19:13 | |
| notmyname | like the gate success rate one I have now | 19:13 |
| portante | would be nice | 19:13 |
| portante | ;) | 19:13 |
| portante | hopefully that will look better | 19:13 |
| portante | ;) | 19:14 |
| notmyname | heh | 19:14 |
| sc68cal | notmyname: for commit in swift - nosetests -c >> log.txt | 19:14 |
| portante | so are folks on board with reviewing code changes to catch coverage of new changes by both unit and functional tests? | 19:14 |
| notmyname | portante: what do you need from the rest of this? | 19:14 |
| portante | that ^ | 19:14 |
| sc68cal | ;) | 19:14 |
| notmyname | *rest of us on this | 19:14 |
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| notmyname | portante: do you mean checking functional test coverage for new patches in addition to unit test coverage? and adding more coverage to functests? | 19:15 |
| portante | I'd like us all to be comfortable with running the functional tests that way, write new functional tests to add coverage, and when reviewing check for coverage, so that we are less likely to cause the kinds of problems we have had over the past six - 8 months | 19:16 |
| portante | yes | 19:16 |
| peluse_ | agreed | 19:16 |
| notmyname | ya, I'm totally on board witht hat | 19:16 |
| portante | does anybody have any concerns with that? | 19:16 |
| peluse_ | we just need to put our money where our mouths are (or keyboards are I should say) | 19:16 |
| notmyname | I think we'll need to update some docs and simply remind each other for a while until it becomes natural | 19:17 |
| * peluse_ says not it on docs | 19:17 | |
| portante | certainly, and I'd be happy to work on docs as folks find places that it would benefit | 19:17 |
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| notmyname | portante: ya, I was thinking more with the SAIO docs to start with. or wiki pages for new contributors. etc | 19:17 |
| notmyname | ie stuff actual contributors would look at, not deployers | 19:18 |
| portante | sure, we can talk about that offline then | 19:18 |
| notmyname | ya. | 19:18 |
| notmyname | two things I can think of that may help it set in with everyone | 19:18 |
| peluse_ | portante: I'll test your SAIO docs no problem, just had my share of writting in englush for a while | 19:19 |
| peluse_ | see what I mean? | 19:19 |
| portante | ;) | 19:19 |
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| tdasilva | portante: are func test coverage results being created now regardless of if you are running func tests in-process or not? | 19:19 |
| notmyname | allow ./.functests to run in both modes (I think you might already have this). and track coverage (people optimize to change published numbers, whatever they are) | 19:19 |
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| zaitcev | it is allowed | 19:19 |
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| zaitcev | I run ./.functests and then SWIFT_TEST_IN_PROCESS=1 ./.functests | 19:19 |
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| notmyname | ah, ok | 19:20 |
| portante | tdasilva: I think you have to specifically ask for coverage | 19:20 |
| zaitcev | I hoped that it would increase confidence in PBE | 19:20 |
| peluse_ | ..and policies and for sure EC when we get there | 19:20 |
| portante | I use "tox -e pep8,py27,func" before a commit from my laptop, and then in my SAIO use .functests to get the SAIO func test runs | 19:20 |
| portante | zaitcev: yes, that is the goal, but we might have to raise the coverage on master before a given patch can be shown as "good" | 19:21 |
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| notmyname | nice | 19:21 |
| portante | I am hoping that the core dev team will help point those kinds of changes necessary | 19:21 |
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| peluse_ | portante: just so I'm clear (and others too I think) what specifically if anything do we have to do to get coverage to be generated running the in process func tests? | 19:22 |
| portante | I'd like to have a way to automatically publish the coverage of master today | 19:22 |
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| notmyname | who's point on making sure this new functionality is written down and findable for people (not that you have to do all the work, just to be the person to coordinate that) | 19:22 |
| notmyname | is that me? portante? zaitcev, you interested? | 19:22 |
| portante | notmyname: I'll do that | 19:22 |
| notmyname | portante: ok, cool. thanks | 19:22 |
| portante | please back me up and check me on it | 19:22 |
| notmyname | I'd be happy to | 19:22 |
| chmouel | portante: i think there was a gate sometime ago allowing to do that on other openstack project you may want to ping infra about it | 19:22 |
| portante | chmouel: yes, I'll do that, thanks | 19:23 |
| chmouel | one can always run a bot listening to gerrit stream and run the coverage and post back the results | 19:23 |
| portante | peluse_: the .unittests file shows you how to get coverage with unit tests | 19:23 |
| chmouel | it should not be too hard (TM) | 19:23 |
| peluse_ | portante: K, thanks | 19:24 |
| portante | chmouel: agreed | 19:24 |
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| portante | peluse_: it would be a nice option to add for .functests | 19:24 |
| peluse_ | portante: yeah, agree. thought it ws there as part of what you checked in but am clear now that its a separate thing | 19:24 |
| notmyname | portante: +1 | 19:24 |
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| notmyname | peluse_: me too | 19:25 |
| notmyname | glad for the clarification | 19:25 |
| portante | you get it with tox | 19:25 |
| notmyname | anything else on this subject? | 19:25 |
| portante | so a tox -e func will get you coverage | 19:25 |
| notmyname | ah ok | 19:25 |
| peluse_ | got it | 19:25 |
| peluse_ | thanks | 19:25 |
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| peluse_ | (well now I get it) | 19:25 |
| notmyname | #topic storage policy update | 19:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "storage policy update (Meeting topic: swift)" | 19:26 | |
| notmyname | I haven't sat down with clayg yet, but I see that there has been some good progress | 19:26 |
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| notmyname | peluse_: can you give a summary? | 19:26 |
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| peluse_ | peluse: I don't have any 'TODO' coding items. I have a few still in need of more core reviewers and have spent time going through clayg's stuff but most of this past week has either been non-Swift for me or EC | 19:27 |
| peluse_ | good progress on EC design work though :) | 19:27 |
| portante | so is clayg here? | 19:27 |
| notmyname | ok | 19:27 |
| portante | hmm, does not seem so | 19:27 |
| notmyname | no, clayg got puled into a customer issue | 19:27 |
| portante | okay | 19:27 |
| peluse_ | also, docs seemed to have slowed down on comments and had at least one 'test' of the SAIO w/policies from someone out there so they're looking good | 19:27 |
| peluse_ | yeah, clayg would have to talk to his stuff. He's been very busy on it though as you mentioned | 19:28 |
| notmyname | AFAIK, he's got a really good reconciler and is getting the patches restaged to propose to master | 19:28 |
| portante | so he is working on preparing a patch series to master, right? | 19:28 |
| notmyname | but I don't know the details on that | 19:28 |
| peluse_ | thus my recent plea for more reviews on my outstanding patches so we can focus just on the reconclier | 19:28 |
| notmyname | yes, that's my understanding | 19:28 |
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| peluse_ | wrt staged patches to master, the plan was to get the reconsilcer set done first and get the rest of mine merged | 19:29 |
| portante | and are we going to finalize the reconcilier into feature/ec and then propose everyting to master? Or do that in parallel? | 19:29 |
| portante | ;) | 19:29 |
| portante | thanks | 19:29 |
| peluse_ | but he may have mad additional progress that I'm not aware of | 19:29 |
| notmyname | peluse_: I think the first | 19:29 |
| portante | love answers before questions asked ... | 19:29 |
| notmyname | :-) | 19:29 |
| zaitcev | So, what does prevent us from starting pulling SP | 19:29 |
| peluse_ | so key asks now: review my outstanding stuff (only a few things) and start looking at clay's long series of aptches :) | 19:29 |
| zaitcev | if not " any 'TODO' coding items" | 19:30 |
| peluse_ | zaitcev: the idea is that all needs to be on the ec branch first before we can stage a meaningful cohesive set of patches to intro to master | 19:30 |
| peluse_ | zaitcev: what I meant is that I don't have any more code to write | 19:30 |
| portante | so we'd want to finalize the docs on feature/ec first as well, then? | 19:30 |
| peluse_ | yes sir | 19:30 |
| notmyname | portante: yes, and I think peluse_ has good ones there already | 19:31 |
| portante | great | 19:31 |
| notmyname | or at least a very good start | 19:31 |
| notmyname | that should be the first patch to look at, actually | 19:31 |
| portante | agreed | 19:31 |
| notmyname | for anyone reviewing SP patches | 19:31 |
| notmyname | and first in the chain of stuff to land, IMO | 19:31 |
| peluse_ | they've had several reviews, may need some RST specific formatting but I think content is good (minus reconslicer) | 19:31 |
| portante | and to make sure it has good functional test coverage. :) | 19:31 |
| notmyname | "reconslicer" I like that | 19:31 |
| peluse_ | indeed | 19:31 |
| peluse_ | yeah, I was close | 19:31 |
| peluse_ | recon-somthing-or-another | 19:32 |
| portante | btw, before SP lands, master has 54% total coverage from just functional tests | 19:32 |
| notmyname | good to know | 19:32 |
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| notmyname | portante: I suspect that much of the gaps are in middleware | 19:33 |
| portante | how 'bout I prepare a report of sorts on that then | 19:33 |
| notmyname | that would be great | 19:33 |
| tdasilva | +1 | 19:33 |
| portante | maybe it will help us with SP get that shaped up | 19:33 |
| notmyname | I think so | 19:33 |
| peluse_ | I'll run on the S code this week for sure and see what % we're at | 19:33 |
| peluse_ | S=SP | 19:34 |
| notmyname | S=SP=storage policies | 19:34 |
| notmyname | ;-) | 19:34 |
| zaitcev | I would prefer a movement on SP in master in small steps. | 19:34 |
| zaitcev | "Reviewing" it in EC branch is a lot of work. | 19:34 |
| portante | zaitcev: do you mean by movement, that the individual patches are small? | 19:34 |
| portante | applied to master that is? | 19:35 |
| zaitcev | Off-loading the logical structuring to Paul makes it easier | 19:35 |
| zaitcev | Well, not small by line count. Small by impact. | 19:35 |
| peluse_ | zaitcev: I think what we're planning will make sense. Series of patches that flow logically that don't erquire any diffs with the ec branch to understand them | 19:35 |
| notmyname | the plan is to propose digestible pieces to master | 19:36 |
| zaitcev | bring it on | 19:36 |
| peluse_ | digestible so we don't have a movement :) | 19:36 |
| zaitcev | But eventually I'll want to trade. | 19:36 |
| peluse_ | zaitcev: oh yeah | 19:36 |
| notmyname | good on S=SP=sotrage policies for this week? | 19:37 |
| notmyname | for the update, that is | 19:37 |
| peluse_ | yup | 19:37 |
| notmyname | I'll be finding time to wrap my head around it later this week | 19:38 |
| peluse_ | reminder for everyone: notmyname and I have a talk at the summit on policies | 19:38 |
| zaitcev | bah | 19:38 |
| notmyname | ya, that's the other kind of thing that I gotta do :-) | 19:38 |
| zaitcev | just start posting patches | 19:38 |
| notmyname | 4 summit talks and a day of swift sessions :-) | 19:38 |
| chmouel | heh, good luck notmyname | 19:39 |
| peluse_ | and policies is the first day jsut after the keynotes | 19:39 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: `git checkout feature/ec && git branch -m master` ;-) | 19:39 |
| zaitcev | notmyname: you can't be serious | 19:39 |
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| notmyname | zaitcev: of course not :-) | 19:39 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: you did say to just propose patches... | 19:40 |
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| peluse_ | heh.. hey SP realted, I'd like to start giving a brief update on EC weekly as well | 19:40 |
| peluse_ | related | 19:40 |
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| notmyname | peluse_: I think that would be nice to do after the summit. ie next week is last-presummit, then summit, then let's do that | 19:40 |
| notmyname | any questions or concerns on the new gerrit version? | 19:41 |
| peluse_ | cool, I'd just like to see more folks inovled up front on EC than were on policies is all | 19:41 |
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| notmyname | I think the -infra team is working on putting together some useful dashboards for the new gerrit instance, similar to some of the bookmarks we have now (eg stuff needing one more +2, stuff that hasn't been reviewed at all, etc) | 19:42 |
| notmyname | so that should be good | 19:43 |
| portante | notmyname: great | 19:43 |
| notmyname | ok, summit stuff then | 19:43 |
| notmyname | oh, I should have been using the #topic | 19:43 |
| notmyname | #topic summit prep | 19:43 |
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| notmyname | I pushed a schedule for the 8 swift sessions | 19:43 |
| notmyname | my idea was to choose things (and group things) that will be good for discussion at the summit. remember its facilitaded discussion, not presentations | 19:44 |
| portante | where did you push it to? :) | 19:45 |
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| notmyname | I'm looking forward to the sessions on some of the community management stuff. ("swift growing pains"). stuff about making sure we do reviews in a timely manner and encourage new devs and improvign docs | 19:45 |
| peluse_ | notmyname: but we'll have a project to show pictures if needed though right? Will be hard to talk EC without a few pics | 19:45 |
| notmyname | but we also have the swift project pod | 19:45 |
| notmyname | peluse_: ya, I think so | 19:45 |
| notmyname | peluse_: ie we always have in the past | 19:45 |
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| notmyname | the "project pod" is a table for us. we've got the corner of a fairly large room, so plenty of space. and I'm bringing a projector for it | 19:46 |
| zaitcev | peluse_: or you can run to nearest Kinkos/FedEx and make a few copies | 19:46 |
| notmyname | unscheduled time there (but we could keep a list on the table or something), but it should be a good place to start and continue discussions | 19:46 |
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| acoles | notmyname: which days do we have the pod? | 19:47 |
| notmyname | acoles: all week AFAIK (tuesday through Friday) | 19:47 |
| acoles | notmyname: great | 19:47 |
| notmyname | that is, the entire "Design Summit" time | 19:47 |
| notmyname | I think these pods may be in lieu of a dev lounge. not sure about that | 19:47 |
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| notmyname | also, there are some interesting cross-project sessions earlier in the week | 19:48 |
| notmyname | full schedule is: | 19:48 |
| notmyname | #link http://junodesignsummit.sched.org | 19:48 |
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| notmyname | any questions or things I can do for you about hte summit? | 19:50 |
| notmyname | #topic open discussion | 19:51 |
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| notmyname | anything else? | 19:51 |
| notmyname | dfg: here? | 19:51 |
| notmyname | gholt: dfg: I'm a little curious about your "turn of fsync" experiment | 19:52 |
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| portante | off? | 19:52 |
| portante | yes, that sounds very interesting | 19:52 |
| portante | is there a commit somewhere documenting it? | 19:52 |
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| notmyname | https://github.com/rackerlabs/swift/tree/rackspace_production | 19:53 |
| portante | in lieu of that, physcx has been posting the buffering patch | 19:53 |
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| portante | very interesting | 19:53 |
| notmyname | oh yeah. anything to discuss on that here? or keep in in -swift? | 19:54 |
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| portante | just to make folks aware of what he observed | 19:54 |
| notmyname | I think it's great. I want to see us all keep looking at performance and efficiency in swift | 19:54 |
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| portante | that the pipeline through proxy server to disk relies on buffers filling up, otherwise PUT writes to disk are small and everything starts going compute bound | 19:55 |
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| notmyname | anything else this week? | 19:56 |
| notmyname | thanks for coming! | 19:56 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 19:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 30 19:56:58 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2014/swift.2014-04-30-19.01.html | 19:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2014/swift.2014-04-30-19.01.txt | 19:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2014/swift.2014-04-30-19.01.log.html | 19:57 |
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