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| zhiyuan | hi ronghui | 00:59 |
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| RongHui11 | hello | 01:00 |
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| dongfeng | hello | 01:00 |
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| joehuang | hello | 01:01 |
| zhiyuan | fine, let's start our meeting | 01:01 |
| zhiyuan | #start-meeting tricircle | 01:01 |
| zhiyuan | #startmeeting tricircle | 01:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 23 01:01:35 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhiyuan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 01:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 01:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 01:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 01:01 |
| zhiyuan | #topic PTG plan | 01:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG plan (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 01:01 | |
| zhiyuan | the official PTG for Queens circle is from Sep 11 to Sep 15 in Denver | 01:02 |
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| joehuang | I think maybe none of us will show in Denver | 01:03 |
| zhiyuan | yes, since most of the developers of tricircle are in China, what about we follow what we did in Pike, we hold tricircle PTG in China? | 01:04 |
| joehuang | good idea | 01:04 |
| Yipei | +1 | 01:04 |
| dongfeng | +1 | 01:04 |
| zhiyuan | and we also discuss our idea in etherpad and #openstack-tricircle channel | 01:05 |
| joehuang | How merhe and others can be involved in the PTG well | 01:05 |
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| joehuang | some one contacted me yesterday from VCCorp, they are also interested in multi-region solutions | 01:06 |
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| zhiyuan | I have prepared an etherpad for our discussion | 01:06 |
| zhiyuan | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tricircle-queens-ptg | 01:06 |
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| joehuang | and sapd is joining in the #openstack-tricircle channel | 01:07 |
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| zhiyuan | after we figure out the time and place, we can tell in the mail list that others can add their topic and join the discussion in IRC | 01:07 |
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| joehuang | fine | 01:08 |
| zhiyuan | any suggestion for the place? Shenzhen again? | 01:08 |
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| joehuang | sounds great, shenzhen | 01:09 |
| dongfeng | it's fine for me. | 01:10 |
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| Yipei | shenzhen +1 | 01:10 |
| zhiyuan | ok, then we hold the PTG in Huawei headquarter, Shenzhen again | 01:11 |
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| zhiyuan | what about the time, I think we don't need a five-day period, what about Sep 14 and Seq 15? | 01:13 |
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| joehuang | maybe one day is enough? | 01:14 |
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| zhiyuan | what about you? ronghui and yipei? I think we can discuss QoS and LB during the PTG, do you think one day is fine? | 01:16 |
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| Yipei | I think one day is fine, since lb is almost done | 01:16 |
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| Yipei | once the creation of network and route updating are finished, lb is completed | 01:17 |
| zhiyuan | ok, then we pick Sep 15? | 01:17 |
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| joehuang | +1 | 01:18 |
| dongfeng | +1 | 01:18 |
| Yipei | +1 | 01:18 |
| zhiyuan | fine, I will update the etherpad and also send out a mail after the meeting | 01:19 |
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| zhiyuan | please also add you topic and comment in the etherpad | 01:20 |
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| zhiyuan | #info tricircle team will hold PTG in Sep 15th in Huawei headquarter, Shenzhen, we will also discuss in IRC channel and etherpad | 01:20 |
| zhiyuan | next topic | 01:21 |
| zhiyuan | #topic progress update | 01:21 |
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| zhiyuan | let's sync the progress of feature development | 01:22 |
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| Yipei | already find the source of failure in adding member and west-east traffic, begin coding now | 01:23 |
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| zhiyuan | cool, so need to modify the logic of xmanager? | 01:23 |
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| Yipei | i think so, only have a rough idea, still needs more research | 01:25 |
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| zhiyuan | fine, we can also have further discussion during PTG | 01:25 |
| dongfeng | I plan to implement job filtering/pagination for tricircleclient. | 01:26 |
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| zhiyuan | great! | 01:26 |
| Yipei | if i complete lb before PTG, could i develop a new feature in Queeens? | 01:27 |
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| zhiyuan | of course! | 01:28 |
| zhiyuan | then you can propose a topic in the etherpad | 01:28 |
| Yipei | ok, i see | 01:28 |
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| zhiyuan | what about QoS? in the latest patch set, I find that there are some problems in the client handle registration. | 01:29 |
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| RongHui11 | the network is too poor and we try to fix the problems | 01:31 |
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| RongHui11 | and add the smoke test in Qos | 01:31 |
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| zhiyuan | we are using openstacksdk to interact with API in the smoke test | 01:33 |
| zhiyuan | #link https://developer.openstack.org/sdks/python/openstacksdk/ | 01:33 |
| RongHui11 | got it | 01:33 |
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| joehuang | the spec for smoke test is :https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1kpVo5rsL6p_rq9TvkuczjommJSsisDiKJiurbhaQg7E/edit?usp=slides_web | 01:34 |
| joehuang | sorry, wrong link | 01:34 |
| joehuang | the spec for smoke test is : https://github.com/openstack/tricircle/blob/master/specs/pike/smoke-test-engine.rst | 01:34 |
| zhiyuan | openstacksdk already supports QoS operation so you can just use it | 01:34 |
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| RongHui11 | that's cool | 01:35 |
| zhiyuan | you can look at the yaml file and the engine implementation task_runner.py to see how your definition in yaml invokes openstacksdk | 01:37 |
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| RongHui11 | ok | 01:38 |
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| zhiyuan | #topic open discussion | 01:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 01:38 | |
| zhiyuan | any other topics? | 01:39 |
| joehuang | no | 01:39 |
| Yipei | no | 01:39 |
| dongfeng | no | 01:40 |
| joehuang | stable/pike branch has been created, so we can try it, if any critical issue, we need to fix it ASAP | 01:40 |
| zhiyuan | ok | 01:41 |
| zhiyuan | since no more topics, let's end our meeting, thanks for attending | 01:43 |
| zhiyuan | #endmeeting | 01:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 01:43 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 23 01:43:50 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:43 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-08-23-01.01.html | 01:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-08-23-01.01.txt | 01:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-08-23-01.01.log.html | 01:43 |
| zhiyuan | bye | 01:44 |
| dongfeng | bye | 01:44 |
| Yipei | bye | 01:44 |
| joehuang | bye | 01:44 |
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| gongysh | #startmeeting tacker | 04:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 23 04:31:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gongysh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 04:31 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 04:31 |
| trinaths-m | o/ | 04:31 |
| gongysh | #topic roll call | 04:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 04:31 | |
| YanXing_an | O/ | 04:31 |
| gongysh | trinaths-m, YanXing_an hi | 04:31 |
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| trinaths-m | Hi all | 04:31 |
| tung_doan_ | o/ | 04:31 |
| xuanjia | o/ | 04:32 |
| gongysh | tung_doan_, hi | 04:32 |
| trinaths-m | tung_doan hi | 04:32 |
| gongysh | xuanjia, nice to meet you. | 04:32 |
| tung_doan_ | xuanjia: big welcome :) | 04:32 |
| phuoc_ | o/ | 04:32 |
| gongysh | tung_doan_, which company do you work for? | 04:32 |
| YanXing_an | Welcome, xuanjia, PTL from OPNFV | 04:33 |
| phuoc_ | Nice to see you here, xuanjia :) | 04:33 |
| xuanjia | Nice to see all of you :) I am the PTL of container4nfv in OPNFV . | 04:34 |
| trinaths-m | Hi xuanji | 04:34 |
| xuanjia | looking forwarding to seeing how tacker supports container vnf in MANO. | 04:34 |
| tung_doan_ | I am a member of Korea Open Networking project supported by Korea Minster | 04:34 |
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| tung_doan_ | gongysh: i will ask my boss to get official email soon :) | 04:34 |
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| gongysh | phuoc_, you too? | 04:35 |
| tung_doan_ | s/Minster/Minister | 04:36 |
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| gongysh | #topic coding patches | 04:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "coding patches (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 04:37 | |
| phuoc_ | gongysh, I am colleague of tung_doan | 04:37 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an, where is your beautiful state transition diagram doc? | 04:37 |
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| YanXing_an | gongysh, already finished vnf diagram, is drawing ns&vnffg's diagram | 04:39 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an, ok | 04:39 |
| tbh | o/ | 04:39 |
| gongysh | tbh hi | 04:39 |
| trinaths-m | What are those diagram for? | 04:40 |
| YanXing_an | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473861/, I already put it in this patch | 04:40 |
| YanXing_an | VNF/VNFFG/NS in PENDING_DELETE status can't be deleted correctly. | 04:40 |
| trinaths-m | xuanjia: we have a working vpp vnf on arm . | 04:41 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an, fhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/473861/4/test-requirements.txt | 04:42 |
| xuanjia | trinaths-m, great. we can talk it later :) YanXing_an you can go on. | 04:42 |
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| gongysh | it seems you are specifying wrong version or not existed third software in this file. | 04:43 |
| trinaths-m | No worries | 04:43 |
| YanXing_an | Gongysh, yeh, I saw the CI failure, will update it | 04:44 |
| gongysh | how's your patch going? | 04:44 |
| gongysh | tung_doan_, how's your patch going? | 04:44 |
| gongysh | I have to cut out pike branch this week. | 04:44 |
| tung_doan_ | gongysh: phuoc_ and I are working locally on it. now we can update chain after scaling out | 04:45 |
| tung_doan_ | gongysh: I would like to request for releasing tacker in the end of this month. Is is possible, gongysh? | 04:45 |
| tung_doan_ | or next week. So sorry for that :( | 04:46 |
| gongysh | tung_doan_, I am afraid we cannot. | 04:46 |
| tung_doan_ | gongysh: which day are you planing to release tacker? | 04:46 |
| gongysh | at the end of friday. | 04:47 |
| gongysh | this friday. | 04:47 |
| gongysh | tung_doan_, this is from release team: We haven't seen tacker branch yet for pike. Just a courtesy reminder that that will need to be done this coming week. Please drop in the #openstack-release channel if you have any questions or need any help. | 04:47 |
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| tung_doan_ | gongysh: got it. | 04:48 |
| tung_doan_ | gongysh: do you know if dkushwaha can keep up with the dealine? | 04:48 |
| tung_doan_ | gongysh: i will remind him abt it | 04:49 |
| gongysh | I don't think dkushwaha will be able to do it. | 04:49 |
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| gongysh | tung_doan_, I think we should cut out pike branch without patches from dkushwaha and tung_doan_. | 04:51 |
| YanXing_an | I test dkushwaha's patch this morning, reappear the issue that he raised | 04:51 |
| tung_doan_ | gongysh: let me try to finish util thursday | 04:51 |
| gongysh | tung_doan_, ok | 04:52 |
| tung_doan_ | and on friday we will request you for review | 04:52 |
| tung_doan_ | i will cherrypick if having any issues | 04:52 |
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| tung_doan_ | gongysh: thanks | 04:52 |
| gongysh | tung_doan_, ok, lets have a try. | 04:52 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an, what is the problem with 'https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486924/' | 04:53 |
| tung_doan_ | see you guys, i need to go back to produce patches :)) | 04:54 |
| YanXing_an | Mistral can not see the ping_action defined in tacker | 04:54 |
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| YanXing_an | I think it's code problem | 04:55 |
| gongysh | ok | 04:55 |
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| gongysh | #topic open discussion | 04:56 |
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| gongysh | just I have said, we will have pike branch this friday. | 04:56 |
| gongysh | so please keep hard working if you want the codes merged. | 04:57 |
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| gongysh | xuanjia, hi | 04:57 |
| gongysh | do you have anything to talk about container vnf? | 04:57 |
| xuanjia | i want to know how Tosca supports container template or k8s template ? is there any discussion now ? | 04:58 |
| gongysh | not yet. | 04:58 |
| gongysh | phuoc_, do you have any plan? | 04:58 |
| trinaths-m | janki had a proposal on this | 04:58 |
| phuoc_ | gongysh, I have plan to use K8s as VIM | 04:58 |
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| xuanjia | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zhJxoMc-_nFop8q2aB2mSjXZ_bjMQq1Ju9_P9ppV_Vo/edit# i see phuoc_ 's doc. we also agree use k8s as VIM | 04:59 |
| phuoc_ | so I and Janki discussed about it | 04:59 |
| gongysh | xuanjia, does industry have related standards? | 04:59 |
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| phuoc_ | and I think if we want to deploy c-VNF in Kubernetes, we need Tosca-to-Kubernetes translator | 05:00 |
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| gongysh | phuoc_, have you seen any related industry standards? | 05:00 |
| xuanjia | gongysh, not yet. so my question is how can we collaborate to contribute our requirements to TOSCA and let TOSCA support it . Then we can know how tacker support container vnf. | 05:00 |
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| phuoc_ | gongysh, I think it is the trend and Telco companies are looking for this feature | 05:01 |
| xuanjia | and K8S acts like openstack heat and do more things than openstack heat. | 05:01 |
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| phuoc_ | and until now, there are not much standards for container VNF yet | 05:02 |
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| gongysh | xuanjia, we have no experience to do this kind of stuff (contribute to TOSCA). if you have, tacker team can help to verify it, and support the standards. | 05:02 |
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| xuanjia | okay.thanks :) | 05:02 |
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| gongysh | xuanjia, I got a meesage that huawei is doing the C-VNF standards. | 05:02 |
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| xuanjia | if tosca support it , the work for tacker will be easiler :) | 05:02 |
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| trinaths | xuanjia: yes | 05:03 |
| xuanjia | oh? do you know who is working on it ? | 05:03 |
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| xuanjia | let me verify it for huawei guys :) | 05:03 |
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| phuoc_ | Its better if we can bring the beta feature of containerized VNF in Tacker | 05:03 |
| gongysh | do you know bai chang ming of china mobile, the C-RAN team? | 05:04 |
| xuanjia | yep. | 05:04 |
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| gongysh | he told me the message. | 05:04 |
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| xuanjia | okay, got it . | 05:04 |
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| xuanjia | and another question is the 'figure 2' in the https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zhJxoMc-_nFop8q2aB2mSjXZ_bjMQq1Ju9_P9ppV_Vo/edit# | 05:05 |
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| xuanjia | For tacker team, seems you keep openstack heat and k8s infr driver as a seperate VNFM. is it right ? | 05:06 |
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| phuoc_ | xuanjia: sorry its my proposal :) | 05:06 |
| phuoc_ | and it can be change | 05:06 |
| xuanjia | okay. we need to discuss it in future. | 05:07 |
| phuoc_ | so, I pretend to K8s as infra driver in VNFM, not the new one | 05:07 |
| gongysh | xuanjia, I think it is just a proposal. you can put your comments there. | 05:08 |
| xuanjia | okay. will do that. | 05:08 |
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| phuoc_ | xuanjia, gongysh I hope to get more help to figure out things | 05:09 |
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| xuanjia | i think we need to let TOSCA team to be involved in . | 05:09 |
| gongysh | And for k8s cluster itself, I think we just use the cluster, not to manage the cluster. we should not care if the magnum or not. | 05:09 |
| gongysh | just like the heat driver, tacker does not manage the openstack. | 05:10 |
| phuoc_ | gongysh, me too | 05:10 |
| xuanjia | yes. your're right. | 05:10 |
| gongysh | xuanjia, TOSCA team, do you have any contact? | 05:11 |
| xuanjia | no... | 05:11 |
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| gongysh | ok | 05:11 |
| xuanjia | i think it need both of us to do it :) | 05:11 |
| phuoc_ | I see the old PTL of Tacker, he joined Tosca comittee | 05:11 |
| gongysh | phuoc_, I will try to contact him. thanks | 05:12 |
| gongysh | for PTG, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-queen-grooming | 05:12 |
| phuoc_ | gongysh, thanks | 05:12 |
| gongysh | the time is coming close. please propose your ideas. | 05:12 |
| trinaths | sure | 05:13 |
| xuanjia | okay. so if you contact with TOSCA team, please let me know, i think it's the most difficlut things for this part. | 05:13 |
| gongysh | trinaths, can you have a talk about topicss you got approval from openstack summits? | 05:14 |
| xuanjia | gongysh, trinaths thanks :) | 05:14 |
| trinaths | sure | 05:14 |
| trinaths | 2 talks on Tacker with tacker team | 05:15 |
| trinaths | 1 talk on security | 05:15 |
| gongysh | #action, gongysh to get contact with sridaram for tosca team about the c-VNF. | 05:15 |
| trinaths | its an Ligthning talk | 05:15 |
| gongysh | what are your 2 talks on Tacker with tacker team? | 05:15 |
| trinaths | https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/19242/openstack-tacker-102-hands-on-lab | 05:16 |
| trinaths | https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/19240/openstack-collaboration-made-in-heaven-with-mistral-neutron-tacker-and-more | 05:16 |
| trinaths | https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/19044/sdn-and-nfv-integrated-openstack-cloud-birds-eye-view-on-security | 05:16 |
| gongysh | great. | 05:17 |
| gongysh | thanks for the tacker promotion jobs. | 05:18 |
| gongysh | anything else? | 05:18 |
| trinaths | gongysh: yes.. all this happened with the support of our PTL, gongysh | 05:18 |
| gongysh | trinaths, :) | 05:18 |
| trinaths | at lab we need more tacker devs to help people on tacker lab activities | 05:19 |
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| trinaths | so that all their debugging and doubts are cleared. | 05:19 |
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| trinaths | gongysh: you have a session at summit | 05:19 |
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| gongysh | I will have project update and a SDN hub session. | 05:20 |
| trinaths | great sir | 05:20 |
| gongysh | https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/global-search?t=sdn+hub | 05:21 |
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| gongysh | project update is from community. | 05:21 |
| trinaths | gongysh: its your R&D project | 05:21 |
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| gongysh | sdn hub is a R&D project. | 05:21 |
| gongysh | trinaths, yes. | 05:21 |
| trinaths | gongysh: nice. a must attend session | 05:22 |
| gongysh | anything else? | 05:22 |
| trinaths | i'm off | 05:22 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an, hi | 05:22 |
| gongysh | anything? | 05:22 |
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| YanXing_an | i will update the vnffg-ns spec when it finished after this week. | 05:23 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an, ok, that will be Queens feature. | 05:23 |
| trinaths | gongysh: i fot got | 05:23 |
| YanXing_an | I have an deep research on mistral last week, and have some thoughts about how to deploy vnffg in ns | 05:23 |
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| trinaths | forgot* my osc support. Please move it to queen. i will complete it by q2 | 05:24 |
| trinaths | gongysh: sorry i missed it. | 05:24 |
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| gongysh | trinaths, never mind. | 05:24 |
| gongysh | ok, thanks everyone. | 05:24 |
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| gongysh | #endmeeting | 05:24 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2017/tacker.2017-08-23-04.31.html | 05:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2017/tacker.2017-08-23-04.31.txt | 05:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2017/tacker.2017-08-23-04.31.log.html | 05:24 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 23 14:00:42 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 14:00 |
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| rhochmuth | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
| rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday August 23 2017 (14:00 UTC) | 14:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1. Mid-cycle planning | 14:01 |
| rhochmuth | •https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca_queens_midcycle | 14:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2. TSDB | 14:01 |
| rhochmuth | •Cassandra update https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cassandra_monasca | 14:01 |
| rhochmuth | •InfluxDB + Kafka | 14:01 |
| rhochmuth | •GridDB http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-August/121296.html | 14:01 |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 14:01 |
| witek | hello | 14:01 |
| cbellucci | o/ | 14:01 |
| rhochmuth | anyone here? | 14:01 |
| koji | o/ | 14:01 |
| nseyvet_op5 | hello | 14:01 |
| shinya_kwbt | o/ | 14:01 |
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| rhochmuth | witek: do you want to drive the meeting? | 14:02 |
| witek | we're still in Pike, but I can practice :) | 14:02 |
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| witek | #topic Mid-cycle planning | 14:03 |
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| witek | I guess I cannot set the topic, right? | 14:04 |
| rhochmuth | interesting, | 14:04 |
| rhochmuth | looks good to me | 14:04 |
| rhochmuth | let me try | 14:04 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic Mid-cycle planning | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Mid-cycle planning (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:04 | |
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| witek | you're the chair, I don't have rights | 14:04 |
| rhochmuth | maybe since i started the meeting | 14:04 |
| witek | yes | 14:05 |
| rhochmuth | didn't realize that | 14:05 |
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| witek | I have set up the launchpad to start planning the mid-cycle meeting | 14:05 |
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| witek | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca_queens_midcycle | 14:05 |
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| witek | please put the topics you would like to discuss | 14:05 |
| witek | the goal is to plan development for the next release cycle | 14:06 |
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| rhochmuth | should griddb be added as a topic? | 14:06 |
| witek | don't know | 14:07 |
| rhochmuth | events? | 14:07 |
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| witek | yes, we could add events | 14:07 |
| akiraY | hi, all. | 14:08 |
| witek | hi akiraY | 14:08 |
| rhochmuth | grafana update. we've been making lot's of progress on that | 14:08 |
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| witek | cool, very interested | 14:08 |
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| rhochmuth | https://github.com/monasca/monasca-grafana | 14:09 |
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| witek | it does not cover authentication, right? | 14:10 |
| rhochmuth | no, it is just the monasca-app that was developed for grafana | 14:10 |
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| rhochmuth | the one that steve simpson | 14:10 |
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| Neptu | o/ | 14:11 |
| rhochmuth | started | 14:11 |
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| witek | we also have Grafana fork with authentication in sapcc repo | 14:12 |
| rhochmuth | right | 14:12 |
| witek | it is not maintained at the moment, right? | 14:12 |
| rhochmuth | that is separate | 14:12 |
| rhochmuth | right | 14:12 |
| rhochmuth | we could also review the state of alarm silencing, inhibition and grouping | 14:13 |
| rhochmuth | if that is interesting to folks | 14:13 |
| witek | yes, good idea | 14:14 |
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| witek | we have retention policy appeared in etherpad | 14:15 |
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| witek | for the dates I proposed 20-21 Sept. 14-18 UTC | 14:16 |
| witek | is it OK for everyone? | 14:16 |
| jgu_ | Yes could we talk about retention policy enhancement? For example, while keeping rolled up metrics longer, expire "regular" monitoring measurements at a shorter time? | 14:17 |
| jgu_ | Yes the time works for me. | 14:17 |
| rhochmuth | i think that date works | 14:18 |
| nseyvet_op5 | what are plans to send all data to a data lake like HDFS for example? Part or not of Monasca? | 14:18 |
| rhochmuth | it isn't part of monasca currently | 14:19 |
| rhochmuth | i think it could be done with a kafka connector relatiely easily | 14:19 |
| nseyvet_op5 | yes, it could. just wondering since there is a data retention topic | 14:19 |
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| witek | OK, so please put your topics to the etherpad, we can sort them out later | 14:22 |
| rhochmuth | thx witek | 14:22 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Cassandra update | 14:23 |
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| rhochmuth | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cassandra_monasca | 14:23 |
| rhochmuth | jgu_: any updates? | 14:23 |
| rhochmuth | or areas that you would like to discuss? | 14:24 |
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| nseyvet_op5 | as a newcomer, how do the result compare to Influx in general? | 14:24 |
| rhochmuth | jgu_: that one is for u | 14:24 |
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| jgu_ | Scott is rerunning the test with replication factor of 1 so we can compare with influxdb, apple to apple. I added a performance testing data section to the ether pad. | 14:25 |
| rhochmuth | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cassandra_monasca | 14:26 |
| jgu_ | Thanks Roland | 14:26 |
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| witek | so the worst result is for querying metric definitions by metric name and dimensions | 14:27 |
| nseyvet_op5 | ok. using the replication factor of 2 (as in the doc), how does it look? | 14:27 |
| witek | 0,13 s | 14:27 |
| nseyvet_op5 | as opposed to how much in Influx? | 14:28 |
| jgu_ | Witek:yes, that actually uses allow filtering | 14:28 |
| witek | after querying metric definitions you still have to query measurements by id, right? | 14:30 |
| jgu_ | I am implementing and testing the java driver with dev stack deployment at the moment. Will run another performance testing when fully integrated in monasca end to end | 14:30 |
| witek | jgu_: after querying metric definitions you still have to query measurements by id, right? | 14:32 |
| jgu_ | Witek: for measurement retrieval, need up to two queries | 14:32 |
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| witek | so the total time should be < 0,2 s ? | 14:32 |
| witek | does it meet your requirements? | 14:33 |
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| jgu_ | Depends on the GUII workflow, I am wondering if we should add a query measurement by id rest API, if hi workflow let's the user to choose one or multiple metrics first? | 14:34 |
| rhochmuth | jgu_: yes, that is something that we proposed too | 14:36 |
| nseyvet_op5_ | Based on the Cassandra partitioning of the data, how confident are you that the measurements are going to be remain realistic when the Cassandra cluster size increases? | 14:36 |
| rhochmuth | since the lookup fomr (name, dimensions) to ID is the bottleneck | 14:36 |
| nseyvet_op5_ | precisely | 14:36 |
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| jgu_ | Roland: that'd be pretty cool. The Cassandra model query for the look up is pretty reasonable , but combing two queries in one API is doable but a burden | 14:38 |
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| nseyvet_op5 | (sry pb w network) | 14:40 |
| witek | jgu_, rhochmuth: how would it work for InfluxDB? | 14:40 |
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| rhochmuth | for influxdb it would not work | 14:41 |
| rhochmuth | unless you stored the ID with the measurement i beleive | 14:42 |
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| rhochmuth | for example, add another tag in influxdb with the ID | 14:42 |
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| rhochmuth | should i change the topic? | 14:44 |
| rhochmuth | #topic GridDB | 14:45 |
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| akiraY | :) | 14:45 |
| rhochmuth | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-August/121296.html | 14:45 |
| rhochmuth | hi akiraY | 14:45 |
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| witek | nseyvet_op5: for the InfluxDB <-> Cassandra comparison we are more interested on write perf | 14:45 |
| akiraY | hi rhochimuth | 14:46 |
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| akiraY | thank you for reviews | 14:46 |
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| akiraY | I'll send a new patchset tomorrow | 14:47 |
| witek | there is not much information about GridDB in internet | 14:48 |
| akiraY | yes. | 14:48 |
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| witek | I wanted to ask folks what they think, what approach should we take | 14:49 |
| akiraY | it was open sourced last year. | 14:49 |
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| witek | experiment with such new databases, or rather conentrate on some more or less proven solution? | 14:49 |
| rhochmuth | the AGPL licensing is a problem for HPE from what I recall | 14:49 |
| nseyvet_op5 | Does adding support for it in Monasca requires Monasca to commit and support it? | 14:50 |
| rhochmuth | is there any possiblitty of making GridDB an Apache 2 license | 14:50 |
| jgu | AGPL is a tricky issue | 14:50 |
| rhochmuth | i know our legal team/attorneys don't like AGPL | 14:50 |
| witek | nseyvet_op5: it means at least reviewing | 14:51 |
| rhochmuth | mongodb also had or still has AGPL, and as a result, we can't use it | 14:51 |
| nseyvet_op5 | I c. It might affect Monasca as a whole. | 14:51 |
| akiraY | python binding is under apache license v2. | 14:51 |
| witek | nseyvet_op5: testing should also be implemented | 14:51 |
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| jgu | akiraY: do you have performance testing data? | 14:51 |
| akiraY | yes | 14:51 |
| rhochmuth | with monasca? | 14:51 |
| akiraY | oh, I have no performance data. | 14:52 |
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| akiraY | I should make a new deployment for benchmarks, but it will take a while. | 14:54 |
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| akiraY | maybe a month or more | 14:55 |
| rhochmuth | if you could that compared to a similar config that jgu_ used for cassandra that would be good | 14:55 |
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| nseyvet_op5 | +1 on that | 14:56 |
| akiraY | can I have its detail? | 14:56 |
| jgu | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cassandra_monasca | 14:56 |
| akiraY | thanks | 14:56 |
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| rhochmuth | •Minimum 3 baremetal nodes | 14:56 |
| rhochmuth | •each node: | 14:56 |
| rhochmuth | •256 GB RAM minimum | 14:56 |
| rhochmuth | •Two SSDS: commit log disk 256GB; data disk: 2TB | 14:56 |
| rhochmuth | •Dedicated VLAN for the replication data link, 10 gb | 14:56 |
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| akiraY | 256GB... | 14:57 |
| rhochmuth | that is listed in the etherpad jgu_ added above | 14:57 |
| jgu | yes | 14:57 |
| witek | I guess it's not the test setup, jgu right? | 14:57 |
| akiraY | hmm.. that's a big problem | 14:57 |
| jgu | that's for the production, benchmark for 50 bil metrics and 20 mil unique definitions | 14:58 |
| jgu | 200 mil | 14:58 |
| akiraY | sorry, I have no such environment. | 14:58 |
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| rhochmuth | hi folks, i'm going to have to close the meeting | 14:59 |
| rhochmuth | witek, any closing comments? | 14:59 |
| witek | no, thank you | 14:59 |
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| rhochmuth | thanks everyone, interesting discussions today | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | will see you all next week | 15:00 |
| akiraY | see you. | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 23 15:00:28 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-08-23-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-08-23-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-08-23-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 23 16:00:17 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | ping dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon jbernard _alastor_ bluex karthikp_ patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor lhx_ rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell watanabe.isao,tommylikehu mdovgal ildikov wxy viks ketonne | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | abishop sivn | 16:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:00 |
| xyang1 | Hi | 16:00 |
| _alastor_ | o/ | 16:00 |
| scottda | hey | 16:00 |
| hemna | hi | 16:00 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Hello :) | 16:00 |
| wxy- | hi | 16:00 |
| abishop | o/ | 16:01 |
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| patrickeast | Hi | 16:01 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 16:01 |
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| prometheanfire | o/ | 16:02 |
| Swanson | Hi. | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | OK, looks like probably enough to get going. | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Announcements | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:02 | |
| smcginnis | The end is near! | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | Still | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | We will need to cut a Cinder RC2 today, or early tomorrow at the latest. | 16:03 |
| * DuncanT passes Jay a sandwich board | 16:03 | |
| tbarron | hi | 16:03 |
| hemna | any bugs we need to land ? | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Nothing I see out there right now. | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/cinder+branch:stable/pike+status:open | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | So if you have something, speak now or forever hold your peace. | 16:04 |
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| smcginnis | Or wait until the first stable release. :) | 16:04 |
| prometheanfire | that's at the ptg iirc | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | Speaking of which... | 16:04 |
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| smcginnis | Normal reminders, register for the PTG: | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-queens Planning etherpad for PTG | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | Oops | 16:05 |
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| smcginnis | ACtually, first add topics and your name to the PTG planning etherpad. ^^ | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | #link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/project-teams-gathering-denver-2017-tickets-33219389087 PTG registration | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | Then register ^ | 16:05 |
| lhx__ | hi | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | The topic etherpad is starting to get filled up, which is great. | 16:06 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Going to do team photos at the PTG again so sign up :) | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: Is there a sign up for that yet? | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | diablo_rojo_phon: good to know. | 16:06 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | smginnis yes, I will send it out again but I put it in the 4 wk out update | 16:07 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I have to send it to the new PTLS but I was hoping the old would communicate to the new as well ;) | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: OK, great. | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 16:07 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj (｡Ő▽Ő｡)ﾉﾞ | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | I'll let jungleboyj worry about then. :) | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | What? | 16:07 |
| prometheanfire | diablo_rojo_phon: I haven't heard :P | 16:08 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | Also, those that need ptgbot power need to poke me in the ptg channel so I can hook them up. | 16:08 |
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| evrardjp | :) | 16:08 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | prometheanfire: evrardjp I'll send something out to the new PTLS today or tomorrow. | 16:08 |
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| prometheanfire | k | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: No "I have the power!" from giphy? :) | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Too many things going on to play. ;-) | 16:09 |
| evrardjp | haha | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | Off your game today. | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: :-p | 16:10 |
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| smcginnis | On that note, next week is final GA for Pike. jungleboyj and I will figure out who's running the meeting next week, but I suppose that's a good time for hand off. | 16:10 |
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| * jgriffith hands jungleboyj a beer | 16:11 | |
| jgriffith | hand off complete... oh wait | 16:11 |
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| smcginnis | ;) | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | #topic Video interviews at the PTG | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Video interviews at the PTG (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:11 | |
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| * smcginnis starts slacking off | 16:11 | |
| * jungleboyj chugs the beer. | 16:11 | |
| * jungleboyj gets the feeling that smcginnis is all too happy to put me in charge. ;-) | 16:12 | |
| smcginnis | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-August/121369.html | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | So, I think this is where I take over. How is that for timing? | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | ;) | 16:12 |
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| jungleboyj | So, there was an e-mail to the mailing list from Rich Bowen, RDO Community Liaison asking for volunteers to do video interviews. | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | Looking for updates on what happened in Pike and to highlight any cross project work that happened. | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | I think Sean and I could do a project update. | 16:13 |
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| jungleboyj | From a cross project standpoint wondering if jgriffith and ildikov would be willing to talk about the work with Cinder/Nova APIs ? | 16:14 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: like we would have any other choice :) | 16:14 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Well, you do. :-) | 16:14 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: I think Nova folks could use an update too | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | Just letting you know the opportunity is there. | 16:15 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: I mean besides the 1.5 people who's reviewing | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | mriedem loves giving updates. | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | We had also put on the agenda to do an overview of what has happened during Pike during the PTG. | 16:15 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: sure thing, thank you | 16:15 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: :) | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Has suddenly gotten quiet. | 16:16 |
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| smcginnis | I think they just wanted 1-3 people for those updates. I nominate jungleboyj and ildikov. | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: :-p | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith and I will sit back and have a beer and make faces behind the camera. | 16:17 |
| jgriffith | +1 | 16:17 |
| * jungleboyj laughs | 16:17 | |
| jungleboyj | What have I gotten myself into. | 16:17 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: jgriffith has to be there, I can't be blamed for the whole thing :) | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | I wanted to make faces at ildikov and jgriffith | 16:17 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj ohhh..... you have no idea!! moua-moua-hahah | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | ildikov: Well, if he's not there then it makes it easy to blame all the problems on him. :) | 16:17 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: be the boss and do that :) | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis nice try, I perfected that trick remember :) | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: I can only imagine how release "collaboration" interview session will go then :p | 16:18 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: you know how people associate things to faces... | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | *smh* | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, I guess I am going to be the boss and say that Sean and I will do a general update. | 16:18 |
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| jungleboyj | ildikov: Lets talk offline and figure out the right people to do an update on Nova/Cinder and what all should be done at the PTG with regards to that and make that happen. | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | I also need to coordinate with mriedem on the when we are going to do a joint Nova/Cinder session. | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Reminds me, should also coordinate with mriedem on a joint cinder/nova timeslot. | 16:19 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: sure, I will repeat multi-attach every 10 seconds and someone else will do the update and we're done, awesomeness :) | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | Anyone else have anything related to Cinder they think we would want to share? | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Jinx. | 16:20 |
| prometheanfire | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/496284/ | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | You lagging up there? | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, I think so. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | prometheanfire: Hold on. | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Next topic? | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, I think we are done with that one. | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | At least have a plan. | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | #topic Oslo cleaning up deprecated stuff | 16:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Oslo cleaning up deprecated stuff (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:21 | |
| jungleboyj | And it is me again. | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | So, Oslo is going to be working during queens to clean up things that they have deprecated. | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-August/121345.html | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | I haven't had a chance to look and see what impact that has on Cinder. | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | Sharing here for awareness. If there is anyone bored and looking to get commits I would appreciate help looking at that. | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | If not, I will try to find some time to work on that during the release. | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: I've started looking at a few deprecation warning. I can try to spend a little time on it. | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | that's a pretty long list | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Yeah, that part makes me a little nervous. | 16:23 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: I can help you with it | 16:23 |
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| smcginnis | e0ne: ++ | 16:23 |
| * e0ne likes to remove code | 16:23 | |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: smcginnis Awesome, thank you. | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | grep to the rescue | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Me too. :) | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Move on? | 16:24 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:24 |
| lhx__ | smcginnis, plus me ;) | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | Yep, I think so. Appreciate help we can get there. | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | Let's see how many lines of code we can remove in Queens. :) | 16:25 |
| hemna | replication..... | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Removal only Fridays? | 16:25 |
| hemna | w00t! | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | all of them!!! | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Hah! :) | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | #topic cinder-manage output | 16:25 |
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| smcginnis | prometheanfire: Not on the agenda, but I know you wanted to discuss this. | 16:25 |
| hemna | replication should die in a fire. | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/496284/ | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | a whole topic! | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | we are lucky out there | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | looks like the review are not overwhelmingly negative, so I guess if we fix we are good to go... | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: Comes in from left field. | 16:26 |
| prometheanfire | :D | 16:26 |
| prometheanfire | ya, I was more curious how far back that can be backported, as a user facing change I'm not expecting much | 16:27 |
| evrardjp | so I guess it's a thank you ... and a question | 16:27 |
| evrardjp | prometheanfire: what a SYNC! | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | prometheanfire, evrardjp: So the tl;dr is the output is currently truncated making it hard to match up output in scripting> | 16:27 |
| prometheanfire | evrardjp: :P | 16:27 |
| prometheanfire | impossible in some cases | 16:28 |
| evrardjp | yup. | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | prometheanfire: I don't know that this is really a bug so I don't see it having backport potential. | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | Hmm, that does change the result returned. I wonder if that would be considered an API change? | 16:28 |
| eharney | i think it is a bug | 16:28 |
| * smcginnis would rather not microversion it, but needs to bring it up at least | 16:29 | |
| prometheanfire | smcginnis: that's kinda what I was wondering | 16:29 |
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| jungleboyj | Oy. | 16:29 |
| eharney | microversion? this is cinder-manage | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Yeah. | 16:29 |
| eharney | or is it not? | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | Oh, it's a cmd. Yeah, nevermind. | 16:29 |
| scottda | Could someone possible be using the output as it is now, in a script? That's the only important question... | 16:29 |
| eharney | that's not a specific enough question | 16:30 |
| prometheanfire | I doubt it | 16:30 |
| scottda | Could we break someone by changing this? | 16:30 |
| prometheanfire | I don't think the output is useful as is | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | More specific - is fixing this for this case going to screw anyone else? :) | 16:30 |
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| scottda | I agree. | 16:30 |
| eharney | it has the same output after the fix, it's just not truncating the hostname, right? | 16:30 |
| jgriffith | eharney yes | 16:30 |
| prometheanfire | someone could be logging status via it though | 16:30 |
| prometheanfire | so that'd change values | 16:30 |
| jgriffith | I'm not sure about backporting output changes to cinder-manage though | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: THat is my concern. | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | besides, they could just use "cinder service-list" | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | that call in cinder-manage should probably be deprecated IMO | 16:31 |
| prometheanfire | ya, but cinder-manage is more direct, should be faster | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | prometheanfire ? | 16:31 |
| prometheanfire | cinder-manage is also useful if running offline right? | 16:31 |
| evrardjp | jgriffith: inconsistency between cinder service-list and cinder-manage is a concern | 16:31 |
| prometheanfire | that's where we ran into it | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | prometheanfire can you define "running offline" | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | I don't know what that means | 16:32 |
| evrardjp | but I think the use cases that lead to noticing it are very much low. | 16:32 |
| prometheanfire | cinder-api is stopped | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | sorry :( | 16:32 |
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| smcginnis | I suppose it can be considered a bug, just not really a bug directly affecting Cinder, but users of cinder-manage. | 16:33 |
| evrardjp | I meant there is not many use cases. In our case, for example, it's very specific. And we can workaround it by checking in the DB. But that's ugly. We were just looking into a more user friendly way forward | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | eharney: Any distro related concerns about backporting it? | 16:33 |
| prometheanfire | not from gentoo | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: I'd rather not have an answer that involves going directly to the db. :/ | 16:33 |
| evrardjp | haha prometheanfire ;) | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | prometheanfire: :) | 16:33 |
| prometheanfire | :P | 16:33 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: agreed with you there. | 16:33 |
| eharney | is the "vs" example in the commit message correct? | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: but I also understand the risks of touching stable code, so it's all about tradeoffs and risks. | 16:34 |
| prometheanfire | evrardjp: should be able to confirm | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | in other words: no my call! | 16:34 |
| eharney | i.e. is it supposed to be including the "@lvm" ? | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | no it's FQDN@something vs hostname@something | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | IIRC | 16:35 |
| hemna | I just ran both cinder service-list and cinder-manage service list and both output foo@bar for c-vol | 16:35 |
| jgriffith | that's added for multi-backend | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | This only happens if it is set up with a FQDN, right? | 16:36 |
| evrardjp | yes. | 16:36 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis yes | 16:36 |
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| jgriffith | I'm not inclined to support a backport of this FWIW just in order to offer up ability to query and offline service | 16:36 |
| prometheanfire | my vs from ocata here | 16:36 |
| prometheanfire | | cinder-volume | storage.mthode.org@lvmdriver-1 | nova | enabled | up | 2017-08-23T16:36:26.345706 | - | | 16:36 |
| prometheanfire | cinder-volume storage nova enabled :-) 2017-08-23 16:36:36.351278 3.10 1.21 | 16:36 |
| jgriffith | I'm also not inclined to continue to have both versions of the same cmd FWIW | 16:36 |
| jgriffith | prometheanfire that what I get as well on current master | 16:37 |
| evrardjp | well they don't operate the same way IIRC | 16:37 |
| jgriffith | evrardjp nope, they don't | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | I think whether we get rid of cinder-manage is another discussion we should probably have, but while we do have it, we should make sure the output matches. | 16:37 |
| evrardjp | but I understand the position, and I have fine with that. | 16:37 |
| evrardjp | thanks for the consideration! | 16:37 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis okie dokie | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | But I'll leave that up to our Queen PTL. Er, I mean our Queens PTL. :{ | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | :P | 16:37 |
| jgriffith | haha | 16:37 |
| prometheanfire | jgriffith: I think having it in both is good as cinder-manage does not need cinder-api to be running | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | *SMH* again | 16:38 |
| prometheanfire | as an operator that's useful | 16:38 |
| jgriffith | prometheanfire Yeah, I get it; but I wish operators would speak up a bit more before we introduce madness :) | 16:38 |
| evrardjp | prometheanfire: definitely more convenient than checking in the DB ;) | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | I am not in a hurry to remove cinder-manage. | 16:38 |
| prometheanfire | :D | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | I do agree that what we get out of cinder-manage and cinder service-list should be consistent. | 16:38 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj we can table that. but to be clear I'm not recommending complete removal of cinder-manage | 16:38 |
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| prometheanfire | k, so anything else to discuss about this? | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | We should maybe discuss cinder-manage at the PTG. | 16:39 |
| evrardjp | for this bug, probably not :) | 16:39 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Just removing the ability to show the running services? | 16:39 |
| * DuncanT wishes cinder service list (and cinder manage) listed API services... | 16:39 | |
| smcginnis | Let's leave any opinions on the review. | 16:39 |
| jgriffith | if you have multiple cinder nodes with the same name but on different domains you're kinda asking for trouble IMO but whatever | 16:39 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:39 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: agreed | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: There's something you can work on. :] | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | Thanks evrardjp and prometheanfire | 16:40 |
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| jgriffith | it does | 16:40 |
| jgriffith | sigh | 16:40 |
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| evrardjp | thanks for having us! | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: I thought so. | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open discussion | 16:40 |
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| smcginnis | I did want to bring up one thing I learned about reno usage. | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | It might be changed, but as it is right now reno will scan through and pick up any changes to release notes between tags and show it based on that. | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | So if an Ocata release note is updated to fix a type or URL in pike, it will end up showing up in the pike release notes. | 16:42 |
| smcginnis | So proper handling for that situation is to edit the release note directly in the stable/ocata branch. | 16:42 |
| prometheanfire | has dhellmann been told (or a bug been made)? | 16:42 |
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| smcginnis | prometheanfire: He's thinking of changing the way reno handles that, but for now I have a couple patches for the reno usage docs and the project team guide. | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | Apparently it's a little tricky to handle in reno, so that may take a little time. | 16:43 |
| prometheanfire | perhaps a version override header or something | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | There is an ignore-note directive that can be added to the release rst file to explicitly tell it to not display specific release notes in the output. | 16:45 |
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| smcginnis | That's the workaround for the cases where the notes have already been edited. | 16:45 |
| smcginnis | But just wanted to raise it here so cores are aware of it in reviewing patches. | 16:45 |
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| smcginnis | Try not to let release notes updates through on master if it is for a stable release. | 16:46 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Thanks for pointing that out. That is good to know. | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | It was news to me, so I figured it would be good to get out there. | 16:46 |
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| lhx__ | smcginnis, any patch to see about this? | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | Reno one was approved: https://review.openstack.org/496391 | 16:47 |
| lhx__ | thanks | 16:47 |
| smcginnis | And update to project team guide is pending: https://review.openstack.org/496318 | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: There was a request to add notes to the documentation page about Reno. I can include that info as well. :-) | 16:48 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Perfect! Probably good to have some basic info and reference over to the reno guide in case that changes at all. | 16:48 |
| smcginnis | Anything else? | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:48 |
| smcginnis | Oh, we should probably also get ocata patches through before that transitions stable phases. | 16:49 |
| smcginnis | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/cinder+branch:stable/ocata+status:open | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Good note. I think I looked a week ago or so and there wasn't much sitting around. | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | Good reminder to people to get anything proposed. | 16:50 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 16:50 |
| smcginnis | OK, I think that's all I've got. Anything else? | 16:51 |
| smcginnis | Bueller? | 16:51 |
| smcginnis | Cool, thanks everyone. | 16:51 |
| Guest35133 | thanks! | 16:51 |
| evrardjp | thanks | 16:51 |
| prometheanfire | o/ | 16:51 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 16:51 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 16:51 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj ( ･ω･)ﾉ | 16:51 |
| lhx__ | thanks! | 16:52 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 23 16:52:14 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-08-23-16.00.html | 16:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-08-23-16.00.txt | 16:52 |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 23 17:00:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 17:00 |
| xgerman_ | o/ | 17:01 |
| johnsom | Hi folks! | 17:01 |
| jniesz | hello | 17:01 |
| johnsom | Getting setup, xgerman_ distracted me right before the meeting... | 17:02 |
| johnsom | grin | 17:02 |
| xgerman_ | :-) | 17:02 |
| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 17:02 | |
| johnsom | PTG is September 11-15th | 17:02 |
| johnsom | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-ptg-queens | 17:02 |
| johnsom | Please sign up on the etherpad whether you are attending, we are gathering estimates for room sizing | 17:02 |
| xgerman_ | Our talk/lab for Sydney didn’t get accepted :-( | 17:03 |
| johnsom | Soon-ish I will try to put a schedule together out of those topics, so please update/add if you have something not already listed | 17:03 |
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| johnsom | Sydney is coming up. We have the option of a project update talk. | 17:03 |
| johnsom | I will be attending the PTG, but not Sydney | 17:03 |
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| xgerman_ | I could do Sydney, but trying to sync with rm_work | 17:04 |
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| johnsom | I think rm_work and/or xgerman_ may be going to Sydney | 17:04 |
| jniesz | I will try to attend PTG as well, should find out this week if I can go | 17:04 |
| johnsom | Ok, great! | 17:04 |
| johnsom | In other news, openstack/python-openstacksdk now supports Octavia | 17:04 |
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| johnsom | I have been working on getting the SDK work previously started merged. The bulk of it is there now. | 17:05 |
| johnsom | I will note, there is some discussion about this project and it's future (should it be merged with shade, etc.) so keep that in mind | 17:06 |
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| johnsom | Any other announcements? | 17:06 |
| xgerman_ | Release? | 17:06 |
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| johnsom | #topic Are we ready to open the repos for Queens developement? Is RC2 our Pike release? | 17:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Are we ready to open the repos for Queens developement? Is RC2 our Pike release? (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 17:06 | |
| johnsom | Ha, yeah, next topic on the agenda | 17:06 |
| xgerman_ | anybody took RC2 for a spin? | 17:07 |
| johnsom | So we cut an RC2 and included a couple of bug fixes. I haven't seen anything major come in since then. | 17:07 |
| nmagnezi | o/ | 17:07 |
| nmagnezi | sorry to be late. | 17:07 |
| johnsom | I think we should consider RC2 our Pike release and open master to Queens patches. | 17:08 |
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| xgerman_ | +1 | 17:08 |
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| johnsom | Any comments/thoughts on that? | 17:08 |
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| johnsom | Ok, then, that is the plan. Consider master open for queens merging | 17:09 |
| nmagnezi | nice :) | 17:09 |
| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 17:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / bugs needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 17:09 | |
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| johnsom | I have been working to finish the SDK patches. I have also started to look at cleaning up the dashboard repos. | 17:10 |
| johnsom | I will also be working on the failover API again soon. | 17:10 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, are we going to kill neutron-lbaas-dashboard (and replace with the octavia-dashboard repo) in queens? | 17:11 |
| johnsom | I really hope to have octavia-dashboard ready for release in Queens. | 17:11 |
| nmagnezi | ok | 17:11 |
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| johnsom | We can't kill neutron-lbaas-dashboard until neutron-lbaas has finished the deprecation cycle (which hasn't started yet) | 17:11 |
| rbowen | jungleboyj: Thanks for promoting the PTG interviews. Sorry I was away at the time. | 17:12 |
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| johnsom | rbowen Welcome to the octavia meeting... Grin | 17:12 |
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| rbowen | oops | 17:12 |
| johnsom | Right now, octavia-dashboard still points to the neutron API. I plan to use the SDK to move that over to the octavia API. I'm cleaning out the old broken dashboard code that is still in there now. | 17:13 |
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| johnsom | Plus I might try to do a few minor updates/cleanup | 17:13 |
| johnsom | I'm not a django/angular person, so will do my best to not make it worse... grin | 17:14 |
| nmagnezi | okay | 17:14 |
| nmagnezi | same here | 17:14 |
| nmagnezi | will try to help :) | 17:14 |
| nmagnezi | at least with code reviews | 17:14 |
| johnsom | Thanks, yeah, testing and reviews will be welcome | 17:14 |
| nmagnezi | noted :) | 17:14 |
| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 17:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 17:15 | |
| johnsom | Other topics for today? | 17:15 |
| jniesz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453005/ | 17:15 |
| jniesz | looking for some feedback on latest changes | 17:15 |
| johnsom | Yeah, good reminder that it needs another review pass | 17:16 |
| xgerman_ | +1 | 17:16 |
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| johnsom | Any other items today? | 17:17 |
| johnsom | Cool. Time back for reviews! grin | 17:18 |
| xgerman_ | oh BBQ vs vault | 17:18 |
| xgerman_ | anyone of us using Barbican? | 17:18 |
| johnsom | Hmm BBQ vs Castellan vs vault | 17:19 |
| johnsom | However our BBQ (barbican slang if you aren't familiar) expert is not here today. | 17:19 |
| xgerman_ | well, if nobody is using it that tells us soemthing | 17:20 |
| nmagnezi | xgerman_, we plan to use it in a cycle or two | 17:20 |
| johnsom | Not sure how many folks are using TLS termination | 17:20 |
| xgerman_ | probably hobbled by the low accpetance of BBQ | 17:20 |
| jniesz | we are using it for TLS term | 17:20 |
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| johnsom | There you go. I think vexxhost is offering TLS as well, but I don't know what they are using for storage. | 17:21 |
| xgerman_ | seems it’s quite popular ;-) | 17:21 |
| xgerman_ | Always good to have a reality check | 17:21 |
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| johnsom | xgerman_ Are you proposing adding an additional driver other than the barbican driver we currently have? | 17:22 |
| xgerman_ | I just wanted to get a feel if BBQ is limiting our TLS adoption and if we need to branch out | 17:23 |
| johnsom | Ah, ok | 17:23 |
| xgerman_ | in any case would be additional drivers | 17:23 |
| jniesz | the one negative I would say with bbq is if there are non-openstack drivers | 17:23 |
| jniesz | in the future that is | 17:23 |
| nmagnezi | xgerman_, i'm not sure how much of a representative sample we have here | 17:23 |
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| nmagnezi | xgerman_, perhaps we should check the users survey | 17:24 |
| johnsom | Well, there is a proposed patch up to add vault support to barbican | 17:24 |
| johnsom | Plus you can use any HSM with kmip support, so pretty flexible | 17:25 |
| xgerman_ | indeed - I see a lot of Vault recently on social media ;-) | 17:25 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438009/ | 17:26 |
| johnsom | Just an FYI... | 17:26 |
| johnsom | Ok, any other items for today? | 17:27 |
| johnsom | Groovy, thanks folks. I will get the Pike release patches up. | 17:27 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 17:28 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-08-23-17.00.html | 17:28 |
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| bh526r | #startmeeting gluon | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 23 18:01:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
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| bh526r | #topic Roll Call | 18:01 |
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| bh526r | #info Bin Hu | 18:01 |
| krenczewski | #info Kamil Renczewski | 18:01 |
| bh526r | #info Jin Li | 18:01 |
| bh526r | Hi Kamil | 18:01 |
| krenczewski | Hi Bin | 18:02 |
| bh526r | I sent you and some others a proposal of demo scenario | 18:02 |
| bh526r | We can discuss it after we finish discussing patches | 18:02 |
| krenczewski | Ok | 18:03 |
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| bh526r | #topic Admin Update | 18:03 |
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| bh526r | #info Bin will attend PTG in Denver. | 18:04 |
| bh526r | #info No other admin update | 18:04 |
| bh526r | #info Pike Release Status | 18:05 |
| bh526r | #topic Pike Release Status | 18:05 |
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| bh526r | #info Bin cut the stable/pike branch | 18:05 |
| bh526r | #info Bin has installed Gluon stable/pike branch with Devstack stable/pike branch | 18:06 |
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| bh526r | #info Sanity check seems good for Gluon and Proton | 18:06 |
| bh526r | #info Documentation update is needed for updated command line. Bin is working on it. | 18:07 |
| bh526r | #info Once remaining outstanding patches of policy are approved and merged, Bin will submit documentation patch | 18:08 |
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| bh526r | One issue is that, in Devstack stable/pike, etcd3 is started by default. Gluon is using etcd-2.3.6. So there are issues of competing ports of etcd cluster | 18:09 |
| bh526r | Current solution is to disable etcd3 after installing Devstack stable/pike, then we can move on as before | 18:10 |
| bh526r | We need to look into using etcd3 in Gluon after Pike release, then we can reuse etcd cluster started by Devstack | 18:10 |
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| bh526r | Alternatively, we can look into using different ports / a different etcd cluster for Gluon backends. | 18:11 |
| bh526r | This will be the work after Pike release | 18:12 |
| bh526r | #info We need to look into resolving etcd3 v.s. etcd 2.3.6 after Pike Release | 18:13 |
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| bh526r | #info Now let's look at outstanding 3 patches | 18:13 |
| bh526r | #info Patch 1: Gluon object-level authorization | 18:14 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482752/ | 18:14 |
| bh526r | #info Jin and Bin went over the code. All look good. | 18:14 |
| bh526r | #info Existing comments were resolved. | 18:14 |
| bh526r | I suggest group to approve this patch | 18:15 |
| bh526r | #info Group approved this patch 482757. Bin will take the action to merge it, and cherrypick to stable/pike | 18:15 |
| bh526r | #info Patch 2: Policies in yaml | 18:16 |
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| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486254/ | 18:16 |
| bh526r | Jin and I are sitting together to review the code. | 18:16 |
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| bh526r | #info models/net-l3vpn/api.yaml: (1) add tenant-id for VpnAfConfig to track which project creates this object.; (2) change network_owner to owner | 18:27 |
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| bh526r | #info managers/manager_base.py: Line 113 "def create_ports(self, api_class, values):": put comments there indicating that the code now is hard-coded to create default interface when creating ports. We need a TO-DO to change the hardcoded code to support all types of YAML. | 18:32 |
| bh526r | #info This TO-DO is beyond Pike | 18:33 |
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| bh526r | #info: policies/base.py: doc/samples/policy.jason is no longer needed. We need to add a comment withint this policy.json, indicating that the first part is moved to code, and the rest are defined in YAML. This file is no longer needed, but for historical record. | 18:41 |
| bh526r | #info policies/net-l3vpn.py: already comment there that it is no longer needed, because polocy is defined in YAML. This is also for historical record. | 18:42 |
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| bh526r | sorry Kamil, we may not have time to go over PoC scenario draft | 18:45 |
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| krenczewski | OK, lets move this to next week | 18:45 |
| bh526r | because we want to finsh review of Pike patches | 18:45 |
| bh526r | sorry for this Kamil | 18:45 |
| bh526r | Meanwhile, if you have comments, we can discuss in email | 18:46 |
| bh526r | Then next week, we can hopefully finish the discussion of draft PoC scenario | 18:46 |
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| krenczewski | Currently there is much of work to do before we can say what we could show on summt | 18:47 |
| krenczewski | So probably next week would be to early for me | 18:47 |
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| bh526r | Sure, thank you Kamil | 18:53 |
| bh526r | #info requirements.txt: this is not needed. So it needs to be deleted in the patchset | 18:54 |
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| bh526r | #info: all others look good. Code themselves look good. | 18:55 |
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| bh526r | #info Jin will update the comments and YAML based on above review, and upload a new patchset. | 18:55 |
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| bh526r | #info Group agrees to approve the new patchset, and Bin will take the action to merge it | 18:56 |
| bh526r | #info Patch 3: Function delete_port() takes exactly 3 arguments (4 given) in handle_port_delete() | 18:57 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/496167/ | 18:57 |
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| bh526r | #info It is being reviewed and there are review comments. It is expected that author will further work on it. It will be approved if everything is fine after review. Bin will take the action to merge after approval | 18:58 |
| bh526r | #topic AOB | 18:58 |
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| bh526r | #info Nothing else. Meeting adjourned. | 18:58 |
| bh526r | #info Team will work offline to finalize those patches and documentation this week | 18:59 |
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| bh526r | #endmeeting | 18:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-08-23-18.01.html | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-08-23-18.01.txt | 18:59 |
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| SotK | anyone here for the storyboard meeting? | 19:00 |
| Zara | o/ | 19:00 |
| Zara | slightly distracted, but o/ | 19:00 |
| SotK | #startmeeting storyboard | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 23 19:00:49 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 19:00 |
| SotK | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard Agenda | 19:01 |
| SotK | fsvo agenda, I don't think it is very up-to-date | 19:01 |
| SotK | I don't think there are any announcements or urgent items, so | 19:02 |
| SotK | #topic In Progress Work | 19:02 |
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| SotK | I see diablo_rojo_phon sent a patch for some migrations docs, thanks for that! | 19:03 |
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| Zara | +1 | 19:03 |
| * SotK will review that at some point today hopefully | 19:03 | |
| SotK | and also the migrations patch that I've been meaning to review for a long time but then holiday got in the way | 19:04 |
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| Zara | thanks :) | 19:05 |
| Zara | I'm away this weekend and unlikely to get to anything much :/ | 19:05 |
| diablo_rojo | Hello :) | 19:05 |
| diablo_rojo | My connection was screwy.. | 19:05 |
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| Zara | I'll try to check any things that I already +2'd that need a recheck, but can't commit to more than that this week | 19:05 |
| diablo_rojo | Zara, when do you get back? | 19:06 |
| SotK | Zara: no problem, still more than I've had time to do recently xD | 19:06 |
| Zara | diablo_rojo: I'm back for next monday | 19:06 |
| diablo_rojo | Zara, coolio :) | 19:06 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, any free time on the horizon? | 19:06 |
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| SotK | diablo_rojo: yeah, I am back from holiday and refreshed and have a sleeping pattern that means I get home at a reasonable hour now so should have some free time in the evenings again | 19:08 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, woot! | 19:08 |
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| SotK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/496439/ Migration docs | 19:09 |
| Zara | thanks | 19:09 |
| SotK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437469/ Support for migrating branches | 19:09 |
| diablo_rojo | I basically copied other docs + pulled from our fantabulous summit presentation | 19:09 |
| diablo_rojo | So it could use some work. | 19:09 |
| SotK | sounds like a good place to start though | 19:10 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, I hoped if I got something out there people would comment :) | 19:10 |
| * SotK will have a read after the meeting | 19:10 | |
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| diablo_rojo | SotK, sounds good. | 19:11 |
| SotK | shout at me if I forget xD | 19:11 |
| SotK | (but I won't) | 19:11 |
| Zara | haha | 19:11 |
| diablo_rojo | If you want to test my other patch I think Mistral would be a good project to test it on. | 19:11 |
| diablo_rojo | :D | 19:11 |
| Zara | oh yeah, I saw that, thanks | 19:11 |
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| * diablo_rojo tries to be subtle while begging | 19:11 | |
| SotK | :D | 19:12 |
| diablo_rojo | Zara, no problem :) | 19:12 |
| diablo_rojo | Oh, in other news I will also be coming to the UK the weekend before OSD UK. | 19:12 |
| Zara | ah, neat! | 19:12 |
| diablo_rojo | Will have time to get together Monday if you want to do a work day :) | 19:12 |
| Zara | when is that, in my head it's just after the ptg? | 19:13 |
| Zara | like 20th ish | 19:13 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah after the ptg | 19:13 |
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| Zara | cool not totally imagining things at least | 19:13 |
| SotK | Monday 25th? | 19:13 |
| diablo_rojo | I get in the 23rd and elave the 27th | 19:13 |
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| diablo_rojo | *leave | 19:13 |
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| diablo_rojo | The hotel I am going to be at is in Shoreditch a few blocks from the venue. | 19:13 |
| diablo_rojo | the citizenM? | 19:14 |
| diablo_rojo | ttx will be around oo | 19:14 |
| diablo_rojo | *too | 19:14 |
| diablo_rojo | Lord I can't type today. | 19:14 |
| Zara | hahaha | 19:14 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, the actual event is Tuesday the 26th. | 19:14 |
| Zara | hopefully I can make it there | 19:14 |
| Zara | and you should come visit us in manchester lol | 19:14 |
| diablo_rojo | Zara, I might be able to figure that out :) | 19:15 |
| * diablo_rojo is taking things one event at a time at this point.. | 19:15 | |
| Zara | I know that feeling | 19:15 |
| Zara | I flew in tuesday and fly off again tomorrow | 19:16 |
| Zara | I think my ptg travel is mostly organised now | 19:16 |
| * SotK wishes he still had the opportunity to have too many events xD | 19:16 | |
| diablo_rojo | I have opendev and then ptg and then OSD UK | 19:16 |
| Zara | you're choosing not to ptg sotk. | 19:17 |
| diablo_rojo | BURN SotK | 19:17 |
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| Zara | looks like we scared him off | 19:18 |
| SotK | that is vaguely fair I suppose but I did already have my plans when I learnt the dates | 19:18 |
| SotK | #topic Open Discussion | 19:18 |
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| SotK | I think I should've done that a while ago | 19:18 |
| Zara | lol | 19:18 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, lol whatever | 19:18 |
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| Zara | sorry I totally vanished last week | 19:19 |
| Zara | different timezone + new job + was sick = totally forgetting the meeting | 19:19 |
| diablo_rojo | Zara, no worries, new jobs kinda take some time | 19:20 |
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| SotK | anything else to discuss? | 19:22 |
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| diablo_rojo | Just review my things please :) | 19:23 |
| diablo_rojo | That's all I have | 19:23 |
| diablo_rojo | Being selfish and demanding.. | 19:23 |
| Zara | haha | 19:23 |
| SotK | I will, once I've eaten :) | 19:23 |
| Zara | well I promise nothing 'til after next monday, but poke me after that | 19:23 |
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| SotK | well, if anything else comes up, we can be found in #storyboard as usual! | 19:25 |
| SotK | thanks folks | 19:25 |
| SotK | #endmeeting | 19:25 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 23 19:25:11 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-08-23-19.00.html | 19:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-08-23-19.00.txt | 19:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-08-23-19.00.log.html | 19:25 |
| Zara | thanks :) | 19:25 |
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| * diablo_rojo prepares the poking stick for Zara and sets a calendar date for Tuesday | 19:26 | |
| Zara | haha | 19:26 |
| Zara | I managed to attend this meeting while eating pancakes and maple syrup tho | 19:27 |
| Zara | future me will hate current me because I've prolly ruined my keyboard | 19:27 |
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| ekhugen_ | #startmeeting wos_mentoring | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 23 20:01:31 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekhugen_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'wos_mentoring' | 20:01 |
| ekhugen_ | hi, who all's here for women of openstack mentoring? | 20:01 |
| * diablo_rojo raises hand | 20:01 | |
| ekhugen_ | fabulous! | 20:02 |
| ekhugen_ | It seems like there's been really good feedback so far on the matches you made, I've been watching the emails come in | 20:02 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah so far so good. I think we have 15 more mentors that don't have mentees. | 20:03 |
| diablo_rojo | Was going to work on matching them up at some point this week. | 20:03 |
| ekhugen_ | that's a very cool problem to have | 20:03 |
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| * diablo_rojo just needs to take the time to buckle down and do it | 20:03 | |
| spotz | *peeks just to peek*:) | 20:03 |
| ekhugen_ | if you need help, let me know, I'm in a bit of a downtime after being somewhat crazy at work all summer | 20:04 |
| diablo_rojo | I think we have 15 mentees without mentors | 20:04 |
| ekhugen_ | is the list out in google docs? | 20:05 |
| diablo_rojo | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jsS3HJgwWU8K28i3QwDIghaaLM2v5mbCXV8A5WlhZDE/edit?usp=sharing | 20:05 |
| diablo_rojo | sheet one is all the signups | 20:05 |
| amrith | ./ | 20:06 |
| diablo_rojo | then I filtered out the mentees and mentors into the next two sheets | 20:06 |
| diablo_rojo | And the the fourth sheet is where I was putting the matches | 20:06 |
| diablo_rojo | I can give edit rights to whoever wants them | 20:06 |
| ekhugen_ | word, I'll check it out tonight/tomorrow and send you some suggestions | 20:06 |
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| diablo_rojo | just ping me with an email :) | 20:07 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen_, sounds good | 20:07 |
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| ekhugen_ | stacky mcstackface doesn't have a mentee yet! | 20:07 |
| spotz | ekhugen_: Well if she'd used the right email that's me!:) | 20:07 |
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| diablo_rojo | ekhugen_, that was my test submisson when I made the form lol | 20:08 |
| spotz | Stacky was created for upstream institute in Boston | 20:08 |
| ekhugen_ | I figured, I was just missing my sarcasm tags there :-) | 20:08 |
| ekhugen_ | for the mentoring doc and wiki https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mentors | 20:09 |
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| ekhugen_ | do we want to move the info about the lightweight mentoring to be further down, with the mentor signups? | 20:10 |
| diablo_rojo | Yes? | 20:11 |
| spotz | ekhugen_: Yeah I think I'd group them | 20:11 |
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| diablo_rojo | We should also probably rename to longterm | 20:11 |
| diablo_rojo | since we are starting to use that terminology instead of lightweight | 20:12 |
| NicoleH | Hi there! | 20:12 |
| ekhugen_ | +1 diablo_rojo | 20:12 |
| * ekhugen_ waves hi to Nicole | 20:12 | |
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| spotz | and maybe move the mentoring sponsored by header down? | 20:12 |
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| spotz | hey | 20:12 |
| amrith | hi all, I may have missed a sign up deadline but I'd still like to sign up. I'll do that right now ... sorry for the delay | 20:13 |
| diablo_rojo | spotz, works for me | 20:13 |
| amrith | thx diablo_rojo for the link | 20:13 |
| diablo_rojo | amrith, np | 20:14 |
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| diablo_rojo | So, spotz you gonna make those changes? :) | 20:16 |
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| ekhugen_ | oh sorry, I was just making some changes | 20:16 |
| spotz | I can do that. But you gotta remember to put me on the spreadsheet:) | 20:16 |
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| ekhugen_ | spotz I think if you fill out the form, you'll be on the spreadsheet automagically | 20:17 |
| spotz | ekhugen_: I did it monday during the meeting:( | 20:17 |
| spotz | Oh and someone started editing but I think we need to move contents up | 20:17 |
| spotz | I don't have an edit for that though | 20:18 |
| spotz | NM I do | 20:18 |
| ekhugen_ | better now? | 20:18 |
| diablo_rojo | spotz, as permission to edit? | 20:19 |
| spotz | ekhugen_: Yeah:) | 20:19 |
| spotz | diablo_rojo: didn't realize I needed to hit the edit button on top but ekhugen_ was in there same time | 20:20 |
| spotz | We're all good:) | 20:20 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen_, spotz shared with you | 20:20 |
| ekhugen_ | thanks diablo_rojo | 20:21 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen_, np | 20:21 |
| spotz | thanks diablo_rojo | 20:22 |
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| ekhugen_ | I was thinking on our various guides, maybe we should send them out to past mentors and mentees and ask if they have any updates? | 20:23 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen_, that would be good. I always like feedback wherever I can get it | 20:23 |
| spotz | +1 | 20:23 |
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| ekhugen_ | I think I have the list from the previous, so I'll just send it everyone en masse? | 20:24 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen_, yeah that should work | 20:24 |
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| ekhugen_ | cool | 20:25 |
| ekhugen_ | any other wiki/doc updates? | 20:25 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen_, don't think so | 20:25 |
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| ekhugen_ | cool, I think our other topic was sydney summit planning for Speed Mentoring | 20:26 |
| ekhugen_ | this came up on the women of openstack call on Monday, talking again about combining it with the women of openstack lunch | 20:26 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah, what do we want that to look like? | 20:27 |
| * amrith perks up ... sydney | 20:27 | |
| ekhugen_ | amrith, what do you think of that idea? it would probably mean only having half an hour for it | 20:27 |
| diablo_rojo | Just like two rounds and then regular working lunch activities? | 20:27 |
| amrith | half hour isnt worth it, i think | 20:27 |
| amrith | why not make it an informal thing | 20:28 |
| amrith | find your mentor and connect and chat | 20:28 |
| ekhugen_ | I mean, what we could do is instead of planning out tables of mentors and mentees, make it more like speed networking | 20:28 |
| amrith | say, set aside some tables in marketplace area | 20:28 |
| ekhugen_ | that's an interesting idea, diablo_rojo do you think that it would be possible to set aside a mentor/mentee area? | 20:29 |
| amrith | and ppl can meet there | 20:29 |
| amrith | at their convenience | 20:29 |
| spotz | Oh just a point Jessica said she'd take charge of the working lunch again | 20:29 |
| amrith | and / or get mentors to agree to 'staff' that area | 20:29 |
| spotz | I met with my mentee outside a room and just checked in | 20:30 |
| diablo_rojo | I think it would just be banquet style for the room | 20:30 |
| diablo_rojo | Oh I get it now. | 20:30 |
| diablo_rojo | Slow on the uptake- too many things going on. | 20:30 |
| ekhugen_ | yeah, sorry I think we have a couple different convos going on here | 20:30 |
| diablo_rojo | I can see if thats something we can do. Or if there is a woo lounge we can say that is also a good place to meet with mentor/mentees? | 20:31 |
| ekhugen_ | and that's cool spotz that Jessica is doing the wos lunch | 20:31 |
| amrith | diablo_rojo +1 | 20:31 |
| diablo_rojo | speed networking while people gather might be a good way to do it and then once enough people are there the regular working lunch could kickoff. | 20:32 |
| diablo_rojo | Kind of like meet and mingle before the main event? | 20:32 |
| amrith | pt a coffee machine there and it'll be flooded | 20:32 |
| diablo_rojo | amrith, lol | 20:32 |
| ekhugen_ | lol | 20:32 |
| spotz | diablo_rojo: ANy chance of getting the room a little early to do it that way? | 20:32 |
| ekhugen_ | I mean, it's lunch, so people will probably have sessions up until it starts, right? | 20:33 |
| spotz | ekhugen_: depends on their schedule etc. | 20:34 |
| diablo_rojo | spotz, possibly, depends on the room but we can ask Erin | 20:34 |
| spotz | Was just thinking oming for lunch if we had access to the room and people were freebefore everyone starts cftarted olks could get s | 20:34 |
| spotz | ugh retyping don't read that!!! | 20:35 |
| diablo_rojo | spotz, lol | 20:35 |
| spotz | Was just thinking if we had access to the room and people were free they could start before everyone starts coming for lunch | 20:36 |
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| spotz | I don't know how I do that but I end up typing not where I am in a line and it's not just IRC:( | 20:36 |
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| ekhugen_ | that's fair, so we have 2 possibilities (which are not incompatible): do a speed networking before/during the first part of the women of openstack working lunch and offering a place where mentors and mentees can meet up | 20:37 |
| spotz | which covers both type of mentoring we do | 20:38 |
| diablo_rojo | Sounds like we should do both if it works out | 20:38 |
| ekhugen_ | is it worth putting these suggestions out to the women of openstack listserv for more discussion? | 20:39 |
| spotz | Yes!!!! | 20:39 |
| spotz | :) | 20:39 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Why not :) | 20:40 |
| ekhugen_ | were there other topics from Monday's meeting that we were going to discuss on the listserv? could it all get bundled in one email? | 20:40 |
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| spotz | ekhugen_: Jessica will hopefully reach out for the working lunch. I am going to mail out for anyone going to open source summit who wants to meet up | 20:40 |
| spotz | Oh and diablo_rojo I think is going to poke Anne about the videos. So nonthing really related to this | 20:41 |
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| spotz | I'd say let's keep the mails targeted to topic | 20:41 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | spotz: +1 | 20:42 |
| ekhugen_ | okay fair enough, anyone want to volunteer to send the proposals out to the listserv? | 20:42 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I think amrith should since he's kind of taking the lead here? | 20:43 |
| spotz | I would saw Amrith as he's leading the speed mentoring | 20:43 |
| spotz | not that we're volunteering him or anything.... | 20:43 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Lol | 20:43 |
| ekhugen_ | lol | 20:43 |
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| spotz | And he owes us tie dye t-shirts.... | 20:44 |
| ekhugen_ | amrith, are you okay with taking point on the email to the listserv, please? | 20:47 |
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| ekhugen_ | okay, well any other topics? | 20:50 |
| ekhugen_ | we'll check back in next week with sydney planning maybe | 20:50 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Nothing else for now | 20:51 |
| ekhugen_ | cool, thanks everyone! have a good week! | 20:51 |
| spotz | laters!:) | 20:51 |
| ekhugen_ | #endmeeting | 20:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 23 20:51:55 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2017/wos_mentoring.2017-08-23-20.01.html | 20:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2017/wos_mentoring.2017-08-23-20.01.txt | 20:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2017/wos_mentoring.2017-08-23-20.01.log.html | 20:52 |
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