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hongbin | #startmeeting zun | 03:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 29 03:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zun' | 03:00 |
hongbin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zun#Agenda_for_2017-08-29_0300_UTC Today's agenda | 03:00 |
hongbin | #topic Roll Call | 03:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
Shunli | O/ | 03:00 |
spn | o/ | 03:00 |
Namrata | Namrata | 03:00 |
kiennt | hi 0/ | 03:00 |
diga | o/ | 03:00 |
mkrai | o/ | 03:00 |
kiseok7 | hi | 03:00 |
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hongbin | thanks for joining the meeting Shunli spn Namrata kiennt mkrai kiseok7 | 03:00 |
hongbin | let's get started | 03:01 |
hongbin | #topic Announcements | 03:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:01 | |
hongbin | i have no announcement , anyone else has? | 03:01 |
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hongbin | seem no | 03:02 |
hongbin | #topic Cinder integration | 03:02 |
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hongbin | for this bp, there are some progress last week | 03:02 |
hongbin | i am working on two WIP patches, which i think it is ready to test | 03:02 |
hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473115/ | 03:03 |
hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491271/ | 03:03 |
hongbin | the first one is a big patch, i will split it into several smaller patches | 03:03 |
hongbin | basically, this is how it works: zun run --mount source=<vol_id>,destination=<path> <image> | 03:04 |
hongbin | the --mount option can be used multiple times to bind mount multiple volumes | 03:04 |
hongbin | any question so far? | 03:05 |
diga | hongbin: you are not using volume api, how mount is different from volume api ? | 03:05 |
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hongbin | diga: i am using cinder api | 03:06 |
diga | okay | 03:06 |
diga | it means its a direct integration with Zun | 03:06 |
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hongbin | yes | 03:06 |
diga | got it | 03:06 |
hongbin | ok, it looks there is no more question | 03:07 |
hongbin | then, we move to the next topic | 03:08 |
hongbin | #topic Introduce container composition (kevinz) | 03:08 |
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hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/introduce-compose | 03:08 |
hongbin | kevinz cannot join the meeting today | 03:08 |
hongbin | he uploaded several patches about capsule last week | 03:08 |
diga | for cinder integration using fuxi, I will update the patch today, some error needs to fix which I will update today. Due to some personal reason I couldn't work since 2 month | 03:08 |
hongbin | diga: ack | 03:09 |
hongbin | diga: you could leverage the code of my patches when integrating with fuxi | 03:09 |
diga | hongbin: Yeah | 03:09 |
diga | hongbin: will take a look at it today | 03:09 |
diga | hongbin: and update my code accordingly | 03:10 |
hongbin | back to the capsule topic | 03:10 |
hongbin | kevin has submitted some unit tests patches last week, all are merged | 03:10 |
hongbin | that is all for this bp | 03:11 |
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hongbin | any question for this topic? | 03:11 |
hongbin | ok, advance topic | 03:12 |
hongbin | #topic Add support for clear container (mkrai) | 03:12 |
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hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/support-secure-container | 03:12 |
hongbin | mkrai: want to lead the discussion of this topic? | 03:12 |
mkrai | hongbin: sure | 03:12 |
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mkrai | The patches for supporting a new runtime parameter in zun create/run API were merged | 03:12 |
hongbin | awesome | 03:13 |
mkrai | There is a question on whether we should allow non-admin users to select runtime or not | 03:13 |
spn | yay! | 03:13 |
mkrai | What do team think about it? | 03:13 |
hongbin | yes, i raise this suggestion | 03:13 |
hongbin | i could explain the rational a bit | 03:14 |
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hongbin | i see the --runtime option as a dangourous operation | 03:14 |
spn | mkrai: did you mean changing runtime for spinning containers by non-admin users? | 03:14 |
mkrai | spn: Yes | 03:14 |
hongbin | because users could use it to choose a runtime that is more secure or less secure | 03:15 |
hongbin | i think we need a way to restrict the choice of runtime | 03:15 |
hongbin | option 1: introduce a config (i.e. enabled_runtime) to specify a list of choosible runtime | 03:15 |
spn | hongbin: I am not sure I understood that argument. Why shouldnt users be allowed to change his runtime to secure or non-secure | 03:15 |
hongbin | option 2: disallow non-admin user to specify the --runtime option | 03:15 |
mkrai | hongbin: My opinion was to let non-admin users also choose runtime so that they have the flexibilty to run their container with any of the avialable option | 03:16 |
hongbin | spn: i assume there are two 'runtime': docker or clear container | 03:16 |
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hongbin | spn: if user can choose docker over clear container, i assume it is less secure | 03:16 |
hongbin | spn: for example, if i am a public cloud provider, i will enforce clear container as the only runtime | 03:17 |
hongbin | spn: make sense? | 03:17 |
spn | hongbin: I agree what you said. but not every user may need a clear container all the time based on his requirment. | 03:17 |
mkrai | spn: I agree on that, the users might want to change the runtime based on their requirement | 03:18 |
hongbin | mkrai: ack | 03:18 |
spn | but yes for public cloud there should be an option for admin to restrict it | 03:18 |
hongbin | then, how about option #1 | 03:18 |
spn | so why dont we drop in an option for admin so that he can decide whether on this cloud a user can change container or not | 03:19 |
hongbin | spn: +1 | 03:19 |
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spn | imagine this situation where on the horizon UI, if a user is allowed to change container | 03:19 |
spn | he gets an option to click on a check box or something like that which specifies type of container also as an option. | 03:19 |
spn | cc is one type of an option , future can be any other type of runtime | 03:20 |
kiennt | spn: sound good +1 | 03:20 |
mkrai | hongbin: I didn't get the option #1 clearly | 03:20 |
hongbin | mkrai: there is a config called "enabled_runtime" | 03:21 |
mkrai | hongbin: Does it mean that it can contain both docker and clear container ? | 03:21 |
spn | mkrai: if we had a config option like allowed_docker_runtimes = " docker, coe" | 03:21 |
spn | etc | 03:21 |
mkrai | And this might vary for other projects like just docker or just clear container | 03:21 |
hongbin | mkrai: yes, it could be enabled_runtime=docker,cc, or enabled_runtime=cc | 03:21 |
mkrai | Ok so that non-admins have right to choose from the list? | 03:22 |
hongbin | yes | 03:22 |
spn | yes.. allowed list | 03:22 |
spn | and admin decides the list | 03:22 |
spn | if admin says only coe just one option is shown to users | 03:22 |
mkrai | But this option will be applied to all the projects | 03:22 |
spn | mkrai: can this be forced upon project basis? | 03:23 |
mkrai | how to handle case when a admin in a project wants a different list than other project? | 03:23 |
mkrai | spn: Yes i am also thinking of the same case | 03:23 |
mkrai | hongbin: Does it makes sense? | 03:24 |
hongbin | mkrai: frankly, i couldn't think of use case that requires a per-project allowed list | 03:24 |
spn | like a finance team in the company which uses containers should be forced with cc | 03:25 |
spn | not all need it | 03:25 |
hongbin | ok, that make sense | 03:25 |
hongbin | then, the question is how to do it :) | 03:25 |
spn | if its needs to be project specific than it should be zun command line tunable | 03:25 |
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mkrai | spn: +1 | 03:26 |
mkrai | hongbin: Right | 03:26 |
hongbin | spn: yes, that should work | 03:26 |
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mkrai | Ahh I am sensing a new kind of resource in Zun :D but that might not be needed | 03:26 |
mkrai | hongbin: spn we might need to store info with some resource | 03:27 |
mkrai | store the enabled_driver info in db | 03:27 |
hongbin | yes if we go that path | 03:28 |
Shunli | I guess it should be info of compute node. | 03:28 |
mkrai | I will start to work on this implementation and present the idea in next meeting | 03:28 |
mkrai | I will discuss with spn | 03:28 |
spn | mkrai: +1 | 03:28 |
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hongbin | ok, sound good | 03:29 |
mkrai | Shunli: ack | 03:29 |
Shunli | as the clear container should run in clear linux, right? | 03:29 |
mkrai | Shunli: it can run on other OS also | 03:29 |
mkrai | Like Ubuntu Cent OS etc | 03:29 |
spn | mkrai: but the image is special | 03:30 |
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Shunli | mkrai: thx ,ack | 03:30 |
spn | it should have a particular kernel version isn;t it | 03:30 |
mkrai | spn: Yes we need to install clear container on each compute node | 03:30 |
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spn | mkrai: I am talking about changes inside the glance image? if any | 03:30 |
mkrai | spn: Which glance image? | 03:31 |
spn | sorry I meant the docker image which runs on cc | 03:31 |
mkrai | It is same as the normal image | 03:32 |
spn | mkrai: ok got it | 03:32 |
mkrai | hongbin: that's all from me :) | 03:32 |
hongbin | thanks mkrai | 03:33 |
Shunli | thanks mkrai | 03:33 |
spn | mkrai: thanks for brining this discussion :) | 03:33 |
hongbin | #topic NFV use cases (lakerzhou) | 03:33 |
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mkrai | Thank you all for a good discussion :) | 03:33 |
hongbin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zun-nfv-use-cases | 03:33 |
hongbin | for this one, Shunli is working on several patches about pci | 03:33 |
hongbin | Shunli: do you have more details to add? | 03:34 |
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Shunli | i'm struggled on the unit test last week. so the pci patch is a bit slow | 03:34 |
Shunli | just uploaded a pci device db model yesterday | 03:35 |
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Shunli | no more progress about the pci feature. | 03:35 |
hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498286/ | 03:35 |
hongbin | Shunli: i think those are good progress | 03:35 |
hongbin | Shunli: thanks for the work | 03:36 |
Shunli | hongbin: the api version controller breaks the unit. | 03:36 |
Shunli | i'm cannot solve it, need someone help on it. | 03:37 |
hongbin | Shunli: which patch? | 03:37 |
Shunli | the network detach api patch. it's random. | 03:37 |
Shunli | even after i add the http header of api version for ut | 03:37 |
Shunli | it's still fails some times. | 03:37 |
hongbin | this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493787/ | 03:38 |
Shunli | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493787/ | 03:38 |
Shunli | not sure if someone familiar with the pecan route, can digg into this problem. | 03:38 |
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mkrai | Shunli: I also added the api-version in header for unittest | 03:39 |
mkrai | otherwise it failed | 03:39 |
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hongbin | however, the gate looks all pass | 03:39 |
Shunli | yes, it success some times, some times fail. | 03:39 |
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hongbin | ok, we can work on that offline | 03:40 |
Shunli | ok. | 03:40 |
hongbin | all, any other comment on this topic? | 03:41 |
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hongbin | #topic Open Discussion | 03:41 |
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hongbin | all, any topic that you want to discuss with the team? | 03:41 |
kiennt | hi, i have one | 03:42 |
kiennt | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zun-multihost-problems | 03:42 |
kiennt | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zun-multihost-problems | 03:42 |
kiennt | zun multi-host scenario has some problems and I need advice. | 03:43 |
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hongbin | kiennt: i couldn't figure out what was wrong , need to find some time to setup the environment to reproduce the error | 03:46 |
hongbin | kiennt: i will get back to that after finishing the cinder bp | 03:47 |
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kiennt | hongbin: Basically, Zun doesn't pass pool_id because subnet doesn't have subnetpool_id. So Kuryr will try to create new kuryr subnetpool (which already created in the 1st node) | 03:48 |
kiennt | Therefore it will raise exception Another pool with same cirdr | 03:49 |
hongbin | yes | 03:49 |
hongbin | however, i don't have a solution in mind right now :) | 03:50 |
hongbin | perhaps this bp will help | 03:51 |
hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kuryr-libnetwork/+spec/existing-subnet | 03:51 |
spn | kiennt: exist if detects no pool id by zun? | 03:51 |
spn | exit* | 03:51 |
Shunli | does neutron has the tag plugin enabled? | 03:51 |
kiennt | hongbin: np, it's a bit tricky :D thanks for the link | 03:52 |
kiennt | Shunli: yes, it does | 03:52 |
hongbin | Shunli: tag plugin is enabled after pike | 03:52 |
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hongbin | it should be called "tag extension" | 03:52 |
Shunli | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441024/ | 03:53 |
Shunli | yes, tag extension | 03:53 |
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hongbin | ok, let's work on the project this week, and rediscuss it at the next meeting | 03:54 |
kiennt | spn: yes, if zun can't pass pool_id, kuryr will create its subnetpool. | 03:54 |
kiennt | hongbin: yes | 03:55 |
kiennt | exist if detects no pool id by zun? | 03:55 |
kiennt | <spn> exit* | 03:55 |
kiennt | oh, wrong copy paste | 03:55 |
spn | :) | 03:55 |
kiennt | sorry, thank you all | 03:55 |
hongbin | any other topic to discuss? | 03:55 |
kiennt | none from me | 03:56 |
Shunli | no | 03:56 |
hongbin | ok | 03:56 |
hongbin | all, thanks for joining the meeting, see you next week | 03:56 |
hongbin | #endmeeting | 03:56 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 03:56 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 29 03:56:43 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:56 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-08-29-03.00.html | 03:56 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-08-29-03.00.txt | 03:56 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-08-29-03.00.log.html | 03:56 |
spn | Thanks all :) | 03:56 |
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rkmrHonjo | Hi | 04:01 |
tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Are you going to chair today's Masakari meeting? | 04:01 |
rkmrHonjo | Yeah, I start this meeting today. | 04:01 |
rkmrHonjo | #startmeeting masakari | 04:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 29 04:01:42 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkmrHonjo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:01 |
tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Ok, Thank you | 04:01 |
abhishekk | o/ | 04:01 |
rkmrHonjo | abhishekk: Hi. | 04:02 |
abhishekk | rkmrHonjo: hi | 04:02 |
rkmrHonjo | OK, let's go to 1st topic. | 04:02 |
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rkmrHonjo | #topic Bugs | 04:02 |
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rkmrHonjo | Do you have any items to discuss? | 04:02 |
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tpatil | I don't see any open critical or blocker bugs | 04:03 |
tpatil | # link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498351/ | 04:03 |
tpatil | ^^ is to add auto_priority, rh_priority recovery method in python-masakariclient | 04:04 |
tpatil | Do we want this patch in stable/pike branch? | 04:05 |
tpatil | I think we should | 04:06 |
rkmrHonjo | tpatil: me too. I will review it after that. | 04:06 |
rkmrHonjo | taptil: Can you review this patch? | 04:07 |
tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Yes | 04:07 |
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rkmrHonjo | tpatil: thanks. | 04:07 |
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rkmrHonjo | #action rkmrHonjo and tpatil review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498351/ | 04:08 |
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rkmrHonjo | Can we go to next topic? | 04:08 |
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tpatil | yes, please | 04:09 |
rkmrHonjo | ok. | 04:09 |
rkmrHonjo | #topic High priority items | 04:09 |
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rkmrHonjo | Sampath wrote "4.0.0.0rc2 will cut off on 8/25" on wiki. But 4.0.0.rc2 was not created yet. | 04:10 |
rkmrHonjo | Do you know about it? | 04:10 |
tpatil | No idea | 04:11 |
rkmrHonjo | tpatil: ok. I don't know, too. | 04:11 |
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rkmrHonjo | OK, let's go to next topic. | 04:12 |
rkmrHonjo | #topic Discussion points | 04:13 |
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rkmrHonjo | I skip "Application for become OpenStack oficial project:". Because Samp is not here. | 04:13 |
rkmrHonjo | Next item is "Install guide document <- need to review this". | 04:13 |
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rkmrHonjo | Are there any updates? | 04:14 |
abhishekk | rkmrHonjo: I am working on review comments | 04:14 |
abhishekk | just have one question | 04:14 |
rkmrHonjo | abhishekk:What's? | 04:14 |
abhishekk | we already have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489570/1/doc/source/_static/masakari.conf.sample | 04:14 |
abhishekk | still need to mention minimum configuration options required? | 04:15 |
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rkmrHonjo | abhishekk: Yes. Users don't know which configuration options are required or not. | 04:16 |
rkmrHonjo | If we suggest required options, it will helps beginner of Masakari. | 04:17 |
rkmrHonjo | s/helps/help/g | 04:17 |
abhishekk | rkmrHonjo: ok, I will do it and push a new patch for review | 04:17 |
rkmrHonjo | abhishekk: thanks. | 04:17 |
rkmrHonjo | OK, next item is "recovery method customization". | 04:18 |
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tpatil | rkmrHonjo: I'm suppose to add an item in Mistral Etherpad to discuss about restarting of mistral service | 04:19 |
rkmrHonjo | tpatil: Thanks. Can you paste the url on here? | 04:20 |
tpatil | # link : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mistral-ptg-queens | 04:20 |
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tpatil | Still this ether pad is not open for public, will wait for few more days | 04:21 |
rkmrHonjo | tpatil: Great. I write this url on masakari meeting wiki after that. | 04:21 |
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rkmrHonjo | tpatil: Oh, I understood. | 04:21 |
rkmrHonjo | I won't join PTG, but I will watch the etherpad. Thanks. | 04:22 |
rkmrHonjo | Any other updates about this? | 04:22 |
tpatil | rkmrHonjo: No | 04:23 |
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rkmrHonjo | OK. let's go to next item. | 04:23 |
rkmrHonjo | Next item is "Find hosts without specifying segments ". | 04:23 |
rkmrHonjo | I created blueprint about this. | 04:23 |
rkmrHonjo | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-masakariclient/+spec/get-hosts-without-specifying-segments | 04:24 |
rkmrHonjo | And, I'm preparing a spec for it. | 04:24 |
rkmrHonjo | Please review the spec when I submit it. | 04:24 |
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tpatil | rmkrHonjo: Ok | 04:25 |
rkmrHonjo | tpatil: thanks. | 04:25 |
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rkmrHonjo | Next item is "Queens Work Items" | 04:25 |
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rkmrHonjo | SamP said that he will write items. | 04:26 |
rkmrHonjo | But it seems that writing is not completed yet. | 04:27 |
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rkmrHonjo | Do you have any opinions about Queen work items? | 04:28 |
rkmrHonjo | If there is nothing, let's go to next topic. | 04:28 |
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tpatil | rkmrHonjo: We can discuss about Queens work Items in next week after all items are added in the Etherpad | 04:30 |
rkmrHonjo | tpatil: OK. (And, I have a same opinion.) | 04:31 |
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rkmrHonjo | Let's go to next topic. | 04:31 |
rkmrHonjo | #topic AOB | 04:31 |
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rkmrHonjo | Do you have AOBs? | 04:31 |
tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Nothing from my end | 04:33 |
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rkmrHonjo | OK. Can we finish this meeting? | 04:33 |
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tpatil | # link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495852/1 | 04:34 |
tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Can you please review this patch? Do we want this patch in stable/pike branch? | 04:34 |
rkmrHonjo | tpatil: OK, I'll review it after that. | 04:35 |
rkmrHonjo | #action: rkmrHonjo review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495852/1 | 04:35 |
tpatil | This patch is not critical but it's dependent on patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498351/2 | 04:36 |
rkmrHonjo | tpatil: Yes. So I review it. | 04:36 |
tpatil | Ok, Thank you. | 04:36 |
rkmrHonjo | Any other AOBs | 04:37 |
rkmrHonjo | ? | 04:37 |
tpatil | rkmrHonjo: No | 04:37 |
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rkmrHonjo | OK, I finish this meeting. Thank you for attending this meeting! | 04:38 |
tpatil | Thank you, all | 04:39 |
abhishekk | thank you | 04:39 |
Dinesh_Bhor | thank you | 04:39 |
rkmrHonjo | bye | 04:39 |
rkmrHonjo | #endmeeting | 04:39 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 29 04:39:18 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:39 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-08-29-04.01.html | 04:39 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-08-29-04.01.txt | 04:39 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-08-29-04.01.log.html | 04:39 |
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chenying | #startmeeting karbor | 09:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 29 09:02:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is chenying. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'karbor' | 09:02 |
zhonghua | hi | 09:02 |
chenying | hi | 09:02 |
jiaopengju | hi guys | 09:03 |
chenying | waiting 2 minutes for people to join | 09:03 |
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yuval | hey | 09:03 |
chenying | hi yuval jiaopengju zhonghua | 09:04 |
chenying | let's start | 09:05 |
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chenying | #topic Pike release (tomorrow) | 09:05 |
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chenying | so yuval It seems that there are not any patches that need be meged to pike branch. | 09:06 |
yuval | yes, seems like we are ready for the pike release tomorrow | 09:06 |
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chenying | What's about the patches about network plugins that jiaopengju work on? | 09:07 |
yuval | well, they are important, but they are not yet tested or reviewed | 09:07 |
chenying | Will we merge them to pike branch int the future? | 09:07 |
jiaopengju | chenying: I will try to split the patch and re-test it soon. | 09:08 |
yuval | we can later backport to pike and make a minor release | 09:08 |
chenying | sound good. | 09:08 |
yuval | chenying: we can | 09:08 |
chenying | So do you have any question about this topic Pike release? | 09:09 |
chenying | yuval: you do great job on karbor project release. | 09:09 |
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chenying | ping gengchc_ | 09:10 |
yuval | chenying: thanks :) | 09:10 |
chenying | welcome. | 09:10 |
gengchc_ | hello | 09:10 |
chenying | next topic | 09:11 |
zhonghua | celebrate the new release | 09:11 |
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chenying | #topic Virtual PTG | 09:11 |
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chenying | I have listed the queens goals for karbor in this link : https://ethercalc.openstack.org/karbor-queens | 09:12 |
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yuval | The PTG is in Denver, CO, September 11 - 15 | 09:13 |
yuval | We have decided to do a virtual PTG | 09:13 |
yuval | that means deciding on topics and hosting the discussion over voice/video | 09:14 |
zhonghua | video? how to join it? | 09:15 |
yuval | we need to find a suitable platform | 09:15 |
zhonghua | how about zoom? | 09:17 |
chenying | sound good. | 09:17 |
yuval | not familiar with it | 09:18 |
zhonghua | AFAIK, k8s community used it as the meeting tool | 09:18 |
zhonghua | another is skype. | 09:20 |
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chenying | One problom, not all voice/video can be accessed from the pc in my office. | 09:20 |
jiaopengju | chenying: how about wechat group :) | 09:22 |
jiaopengju | tacker team use it sometimes | 09:22 |
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yuval | I'm ok with zoom | 09:23 |
chenying | So we can use zoom. | 09:23 |
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yuval | Alright, we just need to decide on sessions time and topics | 09:25 |
chenying | IMO, 11 - 15 five days may be too long for karbor PTG? :D two or three days? | 09:25 |
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yuval | The first three days (11-13) are for more major projects (nova, cinder, neutron) while the next two days (14-15) are for our class of projects | 09:26 |
chenying | so (14-15)? | 09:27 |
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chenying | #info Karbor Virtual PTG September 14 - 15 | 09:28 |
yuval | yes | 09:30 |
chenying | the detail about the session and spec can be added here in this link. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/karbor-queens-planning | 09:30 |
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chenying | Are there any quesion about this topic? | 09:31 |
yuval | nope | 09:31 |
chenying | #topic spec: Adding more protection parameters retention period | 09:33 |
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chenying | ping gengchc_ | 09:33 |
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chenying | he is offline. So we can discuss the questions about this spec on karbor IRC channel. | 09:35 |
chenying | next one | 09:35 |
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chenying | #topic Open Discussion | 09:36 |
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chenying | any quesions want to discuss? | 09:36 |
yuval | nothing from me :) | 09:37 |
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chenying | yuval As I mentioned in the IRC channel about the fullstack for pod proection. | 09:37 |
chenying | What's I want to see, the fullstack for pod proection will not be introduced to karbor. I will add doc about how to run the k8s cluster on the openstack environment(devstack) and how to protect pod with karbor in future. | 09:38 |
yuval | chenying: ok..? | 09:38 |
gengchc_ | Can we discuss spec: Adding more protection parameters retention period? | 09:38 |
chenying | what your oppion about it | 09:38 |
yuval | chenying: I need to read more about it | 09:38 |
yuval | chenying: not sure I understand what's the exact problem | 09:39 |
chenying | OK. If you have any quesion, we can discuss in irc channel. | 09:39 |
chenying | ping gengchc_ | 09:40 |
chenying | about the spec: Adding more protection parameters retention period. Do you have any quesiton about it? | 09:40 |
chenying | As yuval's comment about this spec, we thin these parameters about retention period could not be add to the plan API. | 09:41 |
chenying | S/thin/think | 09:42 |
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chenying | ping gengchc_ | 09:42 |
gengchc_ | I see your suggestion,we can not place max_backups parameter in a plan.Can we add one karbor object that used to keep max_backups parameters? | 09:43 |
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chenying | The retention period are the parameters about the scheduled policy. yuval have explain the reason. | 09:45 |
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chenying | We can consider add these parameters about retention period to the scheduled_operation API. | 09:46 |
chenying | yuval What's your oppion about it? | 09:46 |
gengchc_ | ok | 09:47 |
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chenying | ping yuval | 09:47 |
gengchc_ | chenying:can we add these parameters to ScheduledOperation? | 09:48 |
yuval | chenying: gengchc_: these are two different approaches: 1. stating the retention policy as a 'state', 2. stating a scheduled operation to perform operations in order to achieve that state | 09:48 |
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gengchc_ | chenying:ok | 09:49 |
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yuval | chenying: gengchc_: my suggestion is: as we have a 'protect' operation in the Operation Engine service, create a new operation which wakes up, manages the retention policy | 09:49 |
yuval | chenying: gengchc_: scheduled operation can save extra info in them, including max_backups and retention_period | 09:50 |
yuval | chenying: gengchc_: (for example) | 09:50 |
chenying | yuval I agree that adding max_backups and retention_period to the extra info of scheduled operation API. | 09:51 |
yuval | chenying: gengchc_: I believe we can avoid adding these fields into the data model and API of karbor | 09:51 |
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gengchc_ | chenying:ok.I avoid adding these fields to these fields into the data model and API of karbor, if we use the state to solve the problem. | 09:53 |
chenying | yuval: If we add these the extra info of scheduled operation API. do we need define a schema about it (extra info field.) not add new field to data module. | 09:53 |
chenying | If we add these to | 09:54 |
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yuval | not sure I understand | 09:55 |
chenying | adding max_backups and retention_period to the extra info of scheduled operation API. | 09:55 |
yuval | what about it? I think we should refrain from doing so | 09:56 |
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chenying | Do we need define the schema about this extra info filed. What parameters can be supported | 09:56 |
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yuval | chenying: no, just create a new operation type (like protect) and have it parse the 'operation_definition' param | 09:58 |
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yuval | chenying: a new operation type in the Operation Engine, not the Protection Service | 09:59 |
yuval | https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/data-protection-orchestration/v1/index.html#create-scheduled-operation | 09:59 |
chenying | OK. I see. | 09:59 |
yuval | time's up | 09:59 |
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chenying | so we can discuss it in karbor IRC channel. | 10:00 |
gengchc_ | different protection objects, we may need to set the max_backups to different values. | 10:01 |
yuval | hey, time is up | 10:01 |
chenying | #endmeeting | 10:01 |
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Qiming | #startmeeting senlin | 13:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 29 13:01:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Qiming. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'senlin' | 13:01 |
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ruijie_ | evening Qiming | 13:02 |
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Qiming | evening | 13:03 |
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ruijie_ | em.. Qiming. there is a question about how to recover/terminate the actions when the engines restarted | 13:11 |
Qiming | yes | 13:11 |
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ruijie_ | if the engine which hold the cluster action went down, the node actions will be messed? | 13:12 |
Qiming | saw you comments | 13:12 |
Qiming | good question, I don't see a reliable way to recover the situation | 13:14 |
Qiming | unless we introduce transactions of actions | 13:14 |
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ruijie_ | em, yes Qiming. But we may want the engine do not process the sub-actions if the cluster action been marked as cancel or failed | 13:16 |
Qiming | okay | 13:18 |
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ruijie_ | Qiming, about the transactions, can you introduce the idea :) | 13:20 |
Qiming | one feature of transactions are that they can be rolled back | 13:21 |
Qiming | that would be very complicated | 13:22 |
Qiming | say for a CLUSTER_CREATE action | 13:23 |
Qiming | if it fails due to whatever reason (engine crash for example), we roll back the whole action | 13:23 |
Qiming | deleting all nodes created | 13:23 |
Qiming | that would be a super clean way for transactions | 13:24 |
Qiming | however, regarding the problem you want to solve right now, there could be a lightweight solution | 13:24 |
Qiming | CLUSTER_ actions always impose CLUSTER_SCOPE locks first, and later, node locks when necessary | 13:26 |
ruijie_ | that would be great if it could be solved step by step | 13:26 |
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Qiming | NODE_ actions *may* impose NODE_SCOPE locks first, then later node locks | 13:26 |
ruijie_ | yes Qiming | 13:26 |
Qiming | without having those locks released, no other engines will be able to grab it for execution, even if we are marking them as READY | 13:27 |
Qiming | the key point here is when breaking locks, we have to do it in the reverse order | 13:28 |
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Qiming | maybe that is something we can do at the moment | 13:28 |
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ruijie_ | so, we can keep the cluster locks there before we finished GC work | 13:29 |
Qiming | yes | 13:30 |
ruijie_ | yes Qiming, that could be a workaround | 13:31 |
Qiming | great | 13:31 |
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ruijie_ | but we may push the work load/code to db layer | 13:32 |
ruijie_ | we are now doing this in db.api | 13:32 |
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ruijie_ | sorry, need look forward to it, I think that can solve the current problem | 13:33 |
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Qiming | difference between "push to db layer" and "do this in db.api" ? | 13:35 |
ruijie_ | the real logic for breaking locks and erasing dependents are all in db layer | 13:36 |
Qiming | yes | 13:37 |
ruijie_ | so, we can now update the status of the action directly for example | 13:38 |
ruijie_ | or we can use the "control" field to control it before we process the actions | 13:39 |
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ruijie_ | this is about another problem that we have dirty data :) | 13:41 |
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ruijie_ | 1. we reverse the GC process so that we can make sure the cluster will not be triggered again before we finishing GC | 13:45 |
ruijie_ | 2. we may want to process the actions which status are RUNNING .etc which should not be process anymore | 13:45 |
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Qiming | at the end of the day, no action should be left RUNNING | 13:48 |
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Qiming | if the engine holding its lock was dead, we should mark them as failed | 13:48 |
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Qiming | definitely, we don't have logic to grab a RUNNING action for execution, right? | 13:49 |
ruijie_ | but what if it's already been processed by one thread.. we do not check the nodes actions' status when processing | 13:50 |
Qiming | we check them all | 13:50 |
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Qiming | we get "first" READY or "random" READY actions for execution, not RUNNING ones | 13:51 |
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XueFeng | yes | 13:52 |
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Qiming | I'm gonna cut final release for pike late tomorrow | 13:54 |
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Qiming | please help confirm all important patches are already reviewed and merged | 13:54 |
ruijie_ | sure Qiming | 13:54 |
Qiming | note, this is only about stable/pike branch | 13:54 |
Qiming | not master | 13:54 |
XueFeng | OK | 13:54 |
ruijie_ | will think more about this problem | 13:54 |
Qiming | okay | 13:55 |
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Qiming | any other issues I'm missing? | 13:55 |
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XueFeng | Two problems to discuss | 13:56 |
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XueFeng | 1.Some MANO Client want to use senlin to storage VMs | 13:57 |
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Qiming | XueFeng, we are running out of time | 13:58 |
XueFeng | ok:) | 13:58 |
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Qiming | you could have brought these up early in the meeting | 13:58 |
XueFeng | Ok | 13:58 |
Qiming | or, you can post them to #senlin channel later | 13:59 |
XueFeng | I entry in 13utc | 13:59 |
Qiming | thanks for joining, I guess you have long stories :) | 13:59 |
XueFeng | but my network has some problem | 13:59 |
Qiming | #endmeeting | 13:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 29 13:59:40 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2017/senlin.2017-08-29-13.01.html | 13:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2017/senlin.2017-08-29-13.01.txt | 13:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2017/senlin.2017-08-29-13.01.log.html | 13:59 |
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jlibosva | #startmeeting networking | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 29 14:00:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jlibosva. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:00 |
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jlibosva | hello o/ | 14:00 |
haleyb | hi | 14:00 |
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hichihara | :) | 14:01 |
jlibosva | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
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haleyb | jlibosva: well, my clock says :59 | 14:01 |
haleyb | now it's :00 | 14:01 |
jlibosva | reminder: the ptg is in 2 weeks - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-queens-ptg | 14:01 |
jlibosva | I have already 02 | 14:01 |
jlibosva | haleyb: ^^ | 14:01 |
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amotoki | you seem to have local ntp system not connected to the internet :) | 14:02 |
jlibosva | next update: we've had a while now the stable/pike branch | 14:02 |
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jlibosva | so if you have any critical patches that need to go to Pike, you have 1 day left :) | 14:03 |
jlibosva | The release is scheduled for tomorrow | 14:03 |
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jlibosva | any other announcements anybody? | 14:03 |
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jlibosva | let's move on then | 14:05 |
jlibosva | #topic Bugs and gate failures | 14:05 |
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jlibosva | I think we haven't had a bug deputy for a while now | 14:05 |
jlibosva | we will likely reconsider an approach of bug triaging for the next cycle | 14:05 |
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jlibosva | I think kevin also mentioned that in his PTL nomination | 14:06 |
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HoloIRCUser5 | 0/ | 14:06 |
jlibosva | does anybody have any important bug that would be worth attention here? | 14:07 |
* jlibosva looks at launchpad | 14:07 | |
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HoloIRCUser5 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1618025 | 14:07 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1618025 in neutron "MTU specified during neutron network create is not honored, always set to 1500" [Undecided,Invalid] - Assigned to Esha Seth (eshaseth) | 14:07 |
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* jlibosva is surprised no critical failures are happening with release date approaching | 14:08 | |
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jlibosva | HoloIRCUser5: hi, thanks :) looking | 14:08 |
HoloIRCUser5 | Reedip here :) in the car so , Nick isn't set yet | 14:08 |
hichihara | Could anybody recheck https://review.openstack.org/#/c/497415/ if you see the gate failure. | 14:08 |
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jlibosva | HoloIRCUser5: I hope you're not driving :) this bug is quite old and was closed as invalid and there are no new actions there | 14:09 |
mlavalle | hichihara: I'll keep an eye on it and recheck if needed | 14:09 |
hichihara | Default QoS is new feature for Pike but it's completely broken now. I think that we must fix. | 14:09 |
hichihara | mlavalle: Thanks! | 14:09 |
HoloIRCUser5 | No , at a halt :p | 14:09 |
amotoki | hichihara: OSC gate usually hit this issue. | 14:09 |
amotoki | it does not always happen from my experience | 14:11 |
hichihara | amotoki: I see. I didn't know why you push gate-failure tag into Launchpad. | 14:11 |
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amotoki | hichihara: during exploring how to reproduce, you filed it :) | 14:11 |
hichihara | :) | 14:11 |
HoloIRCUser5 | jlibosva sorry this was the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1713499 | 14:11 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1713499 in neutron "Cannot delete a neutron network, if the currently configured MTU is lower than the network's MTU" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 14:11 |
amotoki | I don't think it is critical for another RC. good backport candidate | 14:11 |
hichihara | amotoki: I think so | 14:12 |
amotoki | 'it' is about QoS default policy | 14:12 |
amotoki | reedip: any update on bug 1713499? | 14:13 |
openstack | bug 1713499 in neutron "Cannot delete a neutron network, if the currently configured MTU is lower than the network's MTU" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1713499 - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 14:13 |
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HoloIRCUser5 | amotoki I checked the behavior and found I cannot create the network with the specified MTU greater than MTU in the configuration file. But I would like the opinion of neutron cores on the steps performed by the bug logger in comment#5(I guess) | 14:15 |
jlibosva | to me it sounds like a legitimate bug | 14:15 |
amotoki | IMHO decreasing the global MTU value is very rare operation process | 14:16 |
haleyb | it doesn't seem like a blocker since there is a workaround - don't change the value | 14:16 |
HoloIRCUser5 | But if someone does that, then should.the person just revert the global physnet MTU to delete any pre existing networks? | 14:16 |
amotoki | anyway we need to check scenarios this bug hits | 14:16 |
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jlibosva | amotoki: but the server should be protected either by failing/stating in the logs, that there are network with higher mtu than the one in config file, right? | 14:17 |
amotoki | jlibosva: sounds fair | 14:17 |
HoloIRCUser5 | jlibosva so you mean running a check at startup for network with MTU greater than current MTU specification? | 14:17 |
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HoloIRCUser5 | jlibosva : and should it be restricted to any network (IMO it can be both self service abd provider ) | 14:18 |
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jlibosva | HoloIRCUser5: either that or not failing deleting a network because of that. I think the main point is that the network should be deletable if op changes the configuration | 14:18 |
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HoloIRCUser5 | jlibosva deletion can be allowed but creation can remain blocked like before | 14:19 |
HoloIRCUser5 | Updates should also be blocked I think | 14:19 |
amotoki | at least, the issue reported in bug 1713499 looks a valid bug. there is no reason to preventing such network at least | 14:20 |
openstack | bug 1713499 in neutron "Cannot delete a neutron network, if the currently configured MTU is lower than the network's MTU" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1713499 - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 14:20 |
jlibosva | I'll try to reproduce it on my setup, so we can flip the LP bug to confirmed | 14:20 |
jlibosva | and we can discuss on the LP what is the expected behavior | 14:21 |
amotoki | +1 | 14:21 |
hichihara | ++ | 14:21 |
HoloIRCUser5 | Sure jlibosva | 14:21 |
mohankumar | +1 | 14:21 |
HoloIRCUser5 | +1 | 14:21 |
jlibosva | HoloIRCUser5: thanks for bringing this up | 14:21 |
HoloIRCUser5 | :) | 14:21 |
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jlibosva | I think we can move on to the next topic | 14:22 |
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jlibosva | #topic OSC | 14:22 |
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jlibosva | amotoki: hi, wanna give any updates? | 14:22 |
amotoki | no updates on OSC side | 14:22 |
amotoki | we have several OSC plugin reviews like dynamic-rotuing | 14:23 |
amotoki | I think they are the next focus | 14:23 |
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jlibosva | good, thanks | 14:23 |
jlibosva | #topic Neutron-lib | 14:23 |
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jlibosva | boden couldn't make it to the first half of the meeting but he dropped me an email | 14:24 |
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jlibosva | if folks have some spare cycles, there are some -lib patches but no critical ones | 14:24 |
jlibosva | boden will send an email to ML once he revives all consumption patches for Neutron and other stadium projects | 14:25 |
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jlibosva | that's all he wanted to say about neutron-lib :) anybody has anything else? | 14:25 |
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jlibosva | sounds like we're good to move to the next topic | 14:27 |
jlibosva | #topic docs | 14:27 |
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jlibosva | boden left me in email this LP bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1684379 - it needs some attention | 14:27 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1684379 in neutron " Expose neutron api application as a wsgi script" [Medium,Triaged] | 14:27 |
jlibosva | bobh: hi :) | 14:27 |
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jlibosva | bobh: sorry :) | 14:27 |
jlibosva | boden: hi :) | 14:27 |
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boden | hi | 14:28 |
jlibosva | boden: I've covered lib and now we're in docs | 14:28 |
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boden | jlibosva: ok I see you already mentioned the bug that could use some input | 14:28 |
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boden | other than that, just FYI that I’ve been working through the doc defects in parallel with the lib work.. I hope to get the number down in the coming weeks | 14:29 |
boden | and that’s it :) | 14:29 |
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jlibosva | boden: thanks :) | 14:30 |
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jlibosva | anybody has anything related to docs? | 14:30 |
mlavalle | Just to mention that in the PTG Monday and Tuesday | 14:30 |
mlavalle | The docs team will get together | 14:30 |
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mlavalle | I plan to attend and invite folks to join in if you have interest in docs | 14:31 |
mlavalle | maybe amotoki will join in :-) | 14:31 |
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amotoki | will be there | 14:31 |
mlavalle | Nice! | 14:31 |
jlibosva | mlavalle: thanks for advertising :) | 14:32 |
jlibosva | anything else? | 14:32 |
mlavalle | not from me | 14:32 |
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jlibosva | #topic Open discussion | 14:32 |
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jlibosva | does anybody have a topic to discuss here? | 14:32 |
janzian | Just a quick note, oslo is soon completing the removal of some deprecated options, as mentioned here: | 14:32 |
janzian | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-August/121345.html | 14:33 |
janzian | The work to be done is detailed in the attached etherpad: | 14:33 |
janzian | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-queens-tasks | 14:33 |
janzian | If you know of anything that might be affected, now would be an excellent time to move to the newer options :) | 14:33 |
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mlavalle | on another topic, I was talking yesterday to some of my Huawei co-workers who won't be able to be at the PTG. Are we going to have some remote connection option for people not physically present? | 14:35 |
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jlibosva | janzian: thanks for the update :) | 14:35 |
jlibosva | mlavalle: I guess that's up to us, if somebody is willing to sacrifice a laptop or tablet | 14:37 |
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jlibosva | on previous design sessions, I remember remote people participating via etherpad | 14:37 |
mlavalle | jlibosva: ok, I'll talk to Kevin off-line | 14:37 |
jlibosva | mlavalle: or maybe you can drop an email to foundation | 14:37 |
mlavalle | That's a good idea. I'll follow up | 14:38 |
jlibosva | any other topics to discuss? | 14:38 |
jlibosva | ok, we can end earlier then | 14:39 |
jlibosva | thanks everyone for showing up | 14:39 |
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jlibosva | #endmeeting | 14:39 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 29 14:39:27 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:39 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-08-29-14.00.html | 14:39 |
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openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-08-29-14.00.txt | 14:39 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-08-29-14.00.log.html | 14:39 |
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mlavalle | o/ | 14:39 |
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amotoki | o/ | 14:40 |
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ralonsoh | hello | 15:00 |
ralonsoh | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 15:00 |
slaweq | hi | 15:00 |
alisanhaji | Hi | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 29 15:00:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ralonsoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 15:00 |
ralonsoh | #topic RFEs | 15:00 |
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ralonsoh | Let's start | 15:01 |
ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1692951 | 15:01 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1692951 in neutron "[RFE] DSCP mark on the outer header" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 15:01 |
ralonsoh | The RFE is not accepted yet | 15:01 |
ralonsoh | slaweq: did the author talk in the drivers meeting about this? | 15:01 |
ralonsoh | do you know? | 15:01 |
ralonsoh | there is no answer in the bug | 15:01 |
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slaweq | I don't know but I think that alisanhaji is author of it | 15:01 |
alisanhaji | I am the author, no not yet | 15:01 |
slaweq | :) | 15:01 |
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ralonsoh | alisanhaji: ok | 15:02 |
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slaweq | I'm not sure if now is the best time for that, maybe on (or after) PTG? | 15:02 |
ralonsoh | alisanhaji: you need to have this approval to start sending code | 15:02 |
ralonsoh | slaweq: actually now is the best moment to start sending RFE and BP | 15:02 |
slaweq | ralonsoh: ok | 15:03 |
davidsha | They are planing on going back to discussing RFE's this week I believe. | 15:03 |
alisanhaji | slaweq advised me on the matter, I should talk about it with neutron drivers members no? | 15:03 |
ralonsoh | alisanhaji: yes and you should ask if you need to fill a blue print | 15:03 |
ralonsoh | alisanhaji: sorry, a spec | 15:04 |
slaweq | IMHO yes, if RFE will be set to triagged then it can be discussed on drivers meeting AFAIK | 15:04 |
ralonsoh | slaweq: yes, you are right | 15:04 |
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slaweq | mlavalle is not here today | 15:04 |
ralonsoh | not yet... | 15:05 |
alisanhaji | so I talk about it at the end of the neutron drivers meeting? | 15:05 |
slaweq | he is one of drivers team members who can change it to triagged | 15:05 |
ralonsoh | alisanhaji: you can try to ping mlavalle later | 15:05 |
davidsha | He's in Texas isn't he? | 15:05 |
slaweq | davidsha: I think so | 15:05 |
alisanhaji | yes I can do | 15:05 |
slaweq | alisanhaji: You can also try to talk with ihrachys or kevinbenton about it (on openstack-neutron channel) | 15:05 |
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ralonsoh | alisanhaji: also you can take a look (and fill) the etherpad for the meeting, adding your rfe | 15:06 |
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ralonsoh | ok, next topic | 15:07 |
alisanhaji | slaweq: roger that | 15:07 |
ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1649517 | 15:07 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1649517 in neutron "qos policy attached to network, qos_policy_id is reflecting on neutron net-show , but not on the port with neutron port-show" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:07 |
ralonsoh | the code is almost finished | 15:07 |
ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419642/ | 15:07 |
slaweq | yes, I helped reedip with this patch | 15:08 |
slaweq | please review it if You can | 15:08 |
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ralonsoh | slaweq: done | 15:08 |
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ralonsoh | but jenkins is failing | 15:08 |
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davidsha | Ya, weird errors in tempest dsvm py35 test.... | 15:09 |
slaweq | I will check this jenkins once again | 15:09 |
reedip_ | o/ | 15:09 |
reedip_ | hi | 15:09 |
davidsha | Hey | 15:09 |
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slaweq | hello reedip_ | 15:09 |
ralonsoh | hi | 15:09 |
reedip_ | hi, sorry, jyst reached home | 15:09 |
ralonsoh | ok, I think this RFE is almost done | 15:09 |
ralonsoh | next one | 15:10 |
ralonsoh | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1596611 | 15:10 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1596611 in neutron "[RFE] Create L3 IPs with qos (rate limit)" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 15:10 |
ralonsoh | two patches | 15:10 |
ralonsoh | TC modifications | 15:10 |
ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453458/ | 15:10 |
ralonsoh | as I said first, the code is OK but I don't agree with splitting it | 15:11 |
ralonsoh | so I can't +1 | 15:11 |
slaweq | same as me :) | 15:11 |
ralonsoh | but we need more reviewers on this one | 15:11 |
reedip_ | is there an issue with the splitting of code ? | 15:11 |
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ralonsoh | with this patch will be two TC wrappers | 15:12 |
ralonsoh | one for ML2 | 15:12 |
ralonsoh | and one for L3 agent | 15:12 |
reedip_ | oh ok | 15:12 |
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ralonsoh | as I said, LIU's patch need more eyes | 15:12 |
ralonsoh | second patch: API | 15:13 |
ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424466/ | 15:13 |
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reedip_ | thats at a merge conflict | 15:13 |
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ralonsoh | the comments made are not addressed yet | 15:14 |
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ralonsoh | so we should wait for the next patch | 15:14 |
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ralonsoh | this patch, as I commented, should be rebase on top of FIP OVO patch | 15:14 |
ralonsoh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396351/ | 15:14 |
ralonsoh | because is modifying code this last patch is converting to OVO | 15:15 |
reedip_ | I am not sure if shashank is still available ( intel ) | 15:15 |
ralonsoh | who is shashank? | 15:15 |
reedip_ | the actual author :) | 15:16 |
reedip_ | never mind, saw Lujin working on it :) | 15:16 |
ralonsoh | yes, Lujin is working on it | 15:16 |
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ralonsoh | btw, this is a good patch to review | 15:16 |
ralonsoh | FIP OVO | 15:17 |
reedip_ | ok | 15:17 |
ralonsoh | ok, no more RFEs | 15:17 |
slaweq | ralonsoh: ok, I will look on it | 15:17 |
ralonsoh | #topic Bugs | 15:17 |
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ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1712913 | 15:17 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1712913 in neutron "Update DVR router port cause error with QoS rules" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:17 |
reedip_ | ralonsoh : have we discussed about ECN? | 15:18 |
ralonsoh | in progress: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498598/ | 15:18 |
ralonsoh | reedip_: I didn't have the RFE link | 15:18 |
ralonsoh | reedip_: is an RFE?? | 15:18 |
reedip_ | thats an RFE which has picked up some reviews :) I know it was in the cold storage for a long time | 15:18 |
reedip_ | I think it was | 15:18 |
slaweq | I haven't had time yet to check gate logs from my patch to check if it really solves problem | 15:18 |
reedip_ | anyways I think we can take it up later in Open discussion | 15:18 |
ralonsoh | reedip_: let's move this to open discussion | 15:19 |
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ralonsoh | slaweq: I'll take a look to your patch today | 15:19 |
slaweq | ralonsoh: thx | 15:19 |
slaweq | I will also check why jenkins failed on it | 15:19 |
slaweq | but I will do it at the evening | 15:19 |
ralonsoh | perfect | 15:20 |
ralonsoh | next one | 15:20 |
ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1711165 | 15:20 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1711165 in networking-odl "Error during full sync with QoS" [Critical,New] - Assigned to rajiv (rajiv-kumar) | 15:20 |
ralonsoh | the fix in Neutron is merged, thanks reedip_ | 15:20 |
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reedip_ | :) , yes I think the ODL one would also be fixed soon | 15:21 |
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ralonsoh | isaku is on this one | 15:21 |
ralonsoh | the last one | 15:21 |
reedip_ | yep , I think rajivk is also working on this with him | 15:21 |
ralonsoh | reedip_: there is a patch | 15:22 |
ralonsoh | but it's abandoned: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/494663/ | 15:22 |
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ralonsoh | ok, next one | 15:22 |
ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1712278 | 15:23 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1712278 in neutron "Default qos policy doesn't work when creating network" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Hirofumi Ichihara (ichihara-hirofumi) | 15:23 |
reedip_ | oh ok | 15:23 |
ralonsoh | the patch was merged this week | 15:23 |
slaweq | it's already fixed in master | 15:23 |
ralonsoh | thanks to hichihira | 15:23 |
slaweq | I think it's also cherry-picked to pike already | 15:23 |
ralonsoh | yes, and almost merged (jenkins is failing) | 15:23 |
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ralonsoh | and that's all in bugs | 15:24 |
ralonsoh | do you have anyone? | 15:24 |
slaweq | \o/ | 15:24 |
ralonsoh | next topic | 15:24 |
ralonsoh | #topic Other Changes | 15:24 |
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ralonsoh | reedip_: do you have the bug link? | 15:24 |
ralonsoh | and the spec link | 15:25 |
reedip_ | for ECN ? | 15:25 |
ralonsoh | to add them to the etherpad | 15:25 |
ralonsoh | yes | 15:25 |
reedip_ | I need the etherpad link plz ? | 15:25 |
ralonsoh | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_qos_meeting_chair | 15:25 |
ralonsoh | spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445762/ | 15:25 |
reedip_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505627 is the bug | 15:25 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1505627 in neutron "[RFE] QoS Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) Support" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 15:25 |
ralonsoh | prefect | 15:25 |
ralonsoh | I'll add it now | 15:25 |
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reedip_ | ok | 15:26 |
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ralonsoh | reedip_: I was on vacation | 15:26 |
reedip_ | ralonsoh : a much deserved one I guess :) | 15:26 |
ralonsoh | I didn't have time to take a second look to the spec | 15:26 |
ralonsoh | thanks! | 15:27 |
ralonsoh | but I'll take a look tomorrow morning, no excuses | 15:27 |
reedip_ | I added the ECN link in the RFEsection | 15:27 |
reedip_ | no , its ok :) | 15:27 |
ralonsoh | (I'll start today) | 15:27 |
reedip_ | I am happy it got a push atleast :) | 15:27 |
ralonsoh | reedip_: try to ping Ihar or Kevin to take a look to it | 15:28 |
reedip_ | ok , lemme take it to them | 15:28 |
alisanhaji | ralonsoh: what is the link to the etherpad you were talking about earlier (neutron drivers) please? | 15:28 |
ralonsoh | alisanhaji: all meetings --> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ | 15:29 |
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davidsha | alisanhaji: The drivers meeting doesn't have an etherpad I believe, but this is when they meet: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Neutron_drivers_Meeting | 15:29 |
alisanhaji | davidsha: thanks :) | 15:30 |
ralonsoh | I don't see the etherpad (if exists) | 15:30 |
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davidsha | ralonsoh: It may be a private thing for the drivers. | 15:30 |
davidsha | if there is one. | 15:30 |
alisanhaji | ralonsoh: ok I'll attend the neutron drivers meeting | 15:31 |
reedip_ | search thier logs :P | 15:31 |
ralonsoh | davidsha: could be, but it's shouldn't: you should be able to add possible topics | 15:31 |
ralonsoh | alisanhaji: yes, attend next meeting | 15:31 |
ralonsoh | ok, is there anything else in the agenda?? | 15:32 |
reedip_ | ralonsoh : I need some help in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456773/ | 15:32 |
reedip_ | Didnt get your comment about pre and post commit | 15:32 |
ralonsoh | let me take a look... | 15:33 |
ralonsoh | reedip_: let's take this one out of the meeting. I'll start looking at it now | 15:33 |
ralonsoh | we can talk in the neutron channel | 15:34 |
ralonsoh | ok? | 15:34 |
reedip_ | oh ok , drop me a message once you have checked it. I might go out after the meeting , so maybe I can ping you tomorrow 0800 UTC ? | 15:34 |
ralonsoh | (I need to take a closer look, I don't remember this patch hehehee) | 15:34 |
ralonsoh | reedip_: no problem! | 15:34 |
reedip_ | :) | 15:34 |
ralonsoh | btw, I'm not going to the PTG | 15:35 |
slaweq | ralonsoh: :( | 15:35 |
reedip_ | me neither :( | 15:35 |
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reedip_ | we can discuss the topics on etherpad | 15:35 |
ralonsoh | bad luck! | 15:35 |
ralonsoh | reedip_: for sure | 15:36 |
ralonsoh | any other topic to be discussed? | 15:36 |
slaweq | I think we should cancel next QoS meeting as it will be during PTG | 15:36 |
slaweq | what You think about it? | 15:36 |
reedip_ | also , I asked kendall and he said that the result for Project Updates paper for sydney would be released later | 15:36 |
ralonsoh | perfect, I'll send a mail | 15:36 |
slaweq | thx ralonsoh | 15:37 |
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ralonsoh | ok, thank you all | 15:37 |
davidsha | Thanks! | 15:38 |
ralonsoh | #endmeeting | 15:38 |
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ralonsoh | bye | 15:38 |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 29 15:38:08 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:38 |
slaweq | thx and see You | 15:38 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-08-29-15.00.html | 15:38 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-08-29-15.00.txt | 15:38 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-08-29-15.00.log.html | 15:38 |
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alisanhaji | Thanks and by | 15:38 |
alisanhaji | e | 15:38 |
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lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 18:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 29 18:01:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:01 |
lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 18:01 |
lbragstad | agenda ^ | 18:01 |
cmurphy | o/ | 18:01 |
lbragstad | ping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, edmondsw, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, notmorgan, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar | 18:01 |
lbragstad | o/ | 18:01 |
rmascena | o/ | 18:01 |
samueldmq | hello o/ | 18:01 |
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knikolla | o/ | 18:01 |
rodrigods | o/ | 18:01 |
gagehugo | o/ | 18:01 |
hrybacki | o/ | 18:01 |
lbragstad | pretty short agenda this week | 18:02 |
lbragstad | so we should have plenty of time for open discussion if needed | 18:02 |
spilla | o/ | 18:02 |
lbragstad | #topic announcements: stable/pike | 18:03 |
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lbragstad | stable/pike is out the door, with proper release notes | 18:03 |
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cmurphy | \o/ | 18:03 |
lbragstad | thanks everyone for all the hard work and making for a smooth release | 18:03 |
hrybacki | woot | 18:03 |
knikolla | \o/ | 18:03 |
gagehugo | yay | 18:04 |
lbragstad | everything is being tracked in launchpad for stable/pike | 18:04 |
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lbragstad | so if you see bugs come through and it's relevant, it should be business as usual for stable branches | 18:04 |
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lbragstad | #topic PTG Planning and schedule | 18:04 |
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lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-queens-ptg | 18:04 |
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lbragstad | I have our schedule roughed out | 18:05 |
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lbragstad | if anyone notices conflicts with other sessions - please let me know at your earliest convenience | 18:05 |
hrybacki | so, I won't be landing until 1100 on Monday but would love to participate in the policy-and-docs-in-code portion of the day | 18:05 |
lbragstad | i've sent notes to the mailing list advertising the schedule, but i haven't heard anything back yet | 18:06 |
lbragstad | so no news is good news, right? | 18:06 |
lbragstad | hrybacki: that's why i wanted to flip the sessions on tuesday | 18:06 |
lbragstad | do baremetal/vm stuff in the morning and policy in code in the afternoon | 18:07 |
hrybacki | ack. Are the VM/BM SIG discussions the same over two days? | 18:07 |
kmalloc | i'll be in late mondyaish | 18:07 |
kmalloc | and will be available tuesday -> friday early afternoon fwiw | 18:07 |
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lbragstad | hrybacki: that's a good question | 18:07 |
samueldmq | lbragstad: 15 people, that's a good count | 18:07 |
lbragstad | i blocked off a lot of time there because i'm not sure when that groups plans to talk about specific things | 18:07 |
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lbragstad | those sessions involve a lot of other projects | 18:08 |
lbragstad | which is good - but we might have a queue of topics to get through before we get to keystone specific things | 18:08 |
hrybacki | silly question -- do we know that we'll have participation from the other projects? | 18:08 |
hrybacki | I've not been to a PTG so I'm not sure how the cross-project portion works out | 18:09 |
lbragstad | the baremetal/vm group contains of the core projects and focuses on making the entire platform better | 18:09 |
* hrybacki nods | 18:09 | |
hrybacki | so low priority? /s | 18:09 |
lbragstad | so far, all the sessions i've been to have had consistent representation from each project | 18:09 |
hrybacki | awesome | 18:09 |
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lbragstad | which is part of the reason why we dedicate a specific day or two towards cross project work | 18:10 |
lbragstad | (hopefully minimizing conflicts | 18:10 |
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lbragstad | ) | 18:10 |
kmalloc | fwiw, i have a strong opinion on the limit bits now. so, i have *future* planning things, so i need to make sure that limit convo is when i'm available | 18:10 |
lbragstad | kmalloc: fantastic | 18:10 |
lbragstad | let's make sure we bring that up on tuesday then | 18:10 |
kmalloc | wfm | 18:11 |
lbragstad | noted in the etherpad | 18:11 |
lbragstad | anyone else have questions on the proposed schedule? | 18:12 |
lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 18:14 |
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samueldmq | lbragstad: I have one question | 18:14 |
lbragstad | samueldmq: shoot | 18:14 |
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samueldmq | why isn't "Role check in middleware" in the "Policy & RBAC" slot? | 18:14 |
lbragstad | samueldmq: oh - i think i put that in the vm/baremetal slot so that we could get more cross-project discussion going | 18:15 |
lbragstad | but it can certainly live in both | 18:15 |
samueldmq | it does actually | 18:15 |
lbragstad | actually - it is in the policy bit, too | 18:16 |
lbragstad | yep | 18:16 |
samueldmq | "RBAC Check in Middleware" is in the policy & rbac | 18:16 |
samueldmq | are we making sure the other folks driving the cross-project rbac stuff will attend it too | 18:16 |
samueldmq | since mon-tue is for the cross project goals (in policy in this case), correct? | 18:16 |
lbragstad | we should have representation available in the vm/baremetal sessions | 18:16 |
lbragstad | from the other projects | 18:17 |
samueldmq | ok, I see Global roles is already in vm/baremetal | 18:17 |
lbragstad | yeah - i'm still working on the PoC for it | 18:17 |
samueldmq | what about "Defining a standard set of roles" would that be nice to have cp discussions? | 18:18 |
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lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/global-roles | 18:18 |
samueldmq | in vm/baremetal | 18:18 |
samueldmq | well, I understand time is limited, and we can always pull more things in if we feel necessary | 18:18 |
lbragstad | yeah - i documented some more topics we should bring up in another etherpad, too | 18:18 |
lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/policy-queens-ptg | 18:18 |
samueldmq | schedule is looking great, lbragstad. well done | 18:18 |
lbragstad | thanks | 18:18 |
lbragstad | let me know if i missed something | 18:19 |
hrybacki | [raising general awareness] Has anyone responded to the doc team's request for verifying the install-guide? Looks like they asked us (and some others) specifically to verify and may be holding a 'Docs and Drinks' session evening during the PTG. | 18:20 |
lbragstad | hrybacki: i have not | 18:20 |
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lbragstad | is anyone interested being a part of that validation? | 18:20 |
hrybacki | Okay. I'll likely attend that D&D session if it gets off the ground | 18:21 |
lbragstad | hrybacki: awesome - is the session dedicated to validating the install guide? | 18:21 |
lbragstad | or is there a different purpose? | 18:21 |
hrybacki | that was the impression I got out of the email | 18:21 |
lbragstad | ok | 18:21 |
hrybacki | feel free to assign me an AI for that | 18:21 |
lbragstad | so they are treating it like a work session | 18:21 |
hrybacki | I think so. I didn't see an etherpad with any specifics | 18:22 |
lbragstad | #action hrybacki to respond to the docs request for validating the install guide for keystone | 18:22 |
hrybacki | but that may have come in a reply since I last looked | 18:22 |
kmalloc | oh docs and drinks... not dungeons and dragons =/ :P | 18:22 |
hrybacki | kmalloc: I know :( | 18:22 |
lbragstad | the last thing i should do while drinking it writing docs | 18:22 |
lbragstad | is* | 18:22 |
hrybacki | lol | 18:23 |
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lbragstad | i have a hard time with sentences sober ;) | 18:23 |
gagehugo | heh | 18:23 |
samueldmq | I'd be fun | 18:23 |
hrybacki | that work is for the editors :P | 18:23 |
lbragstad | hrybacki: depending on how the scheduling shakes out and when things happen, i might be able to tag along | 18:23 |
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hrybacki | cool. It'd be good to network with the doc folks | 18:24 |
lbragstad | agreed | 18:24 |
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hrybacki | lbragstad: I'd like to discuss the global scope PoC. How far you've gotten and how we (me) can step in to help. PTG is soooon | 18:25 |
hrybacki | but that can be a side convo if you feel that to be a better use of the groups time | 18:25 |
lbragstad | hrybacki: good question | 18:25 |
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lbragstad | i can give a quick update | 18:26 |
lbragstad | so here is all the code i have | 18:26 |
lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/global-roles | 18:26 |
lbragstad | which implements the ability to assign global roles to users and group | 18:26 |
lbragstad | and the last patch in that series allows you to scope tokens to global context | 18:26 |
lbragstad | so - that's the majority of the keystone bits | 18:26 |
* hrybacki nods | 18:26 | |
lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-global-roles-poc | 18:27 |
lbragstad | so - 1 and 2 in ^ are pretty much done | 18:27 |
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lbragstad | next - is going to be making sure oslo.policy and oslo.context understand globally scoped tokens and pass that information along to the service | 18:27 |
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lbragstad | then it's just wiring things up for the demo | 18:27 |
lbragstad | so - my goal is to get the oslo bits done this week and spend next week preparing a demo or a recording of the workflow (pending we don't have to make *massive* changes to each service) | 18:28 |
hrybacki | lbragstad: do you have hardware to work the demo on? | 18:29 |
lbragstad | hrybacki: my x1.carbon and devstack :) | 18:29 |
hrybacki | Okay :P | 18:29 |
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hrybacki | where best can we step in to help you with this work now? | 18:29 |
lbragstad | hrybacki: help with the oslo bits would be awesome | 18:29 |
lbragstad | so - step 3 | 18:30 |
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hrybacki | lbragstad: okay. I've got cycles today and later this week which I can help out during | 18:30 |
hrybacki | but I may need some pointers to get me started in the right direction | 18:30 |
lbragstad | hrybacki: awesome - let me know when you want to dive in and we can sync on where to start | 18:30 |
hrybacki | lbragstad++ | 18:31 |
lbragstad | also - reviews on the patches i have up would be a huge help | 18:31 |
lbragstad | they are pretty rough, but i've tried to break them into smaller bite-sized pieces | 18:31 |
hrybacki | ack. I'll look at those today so I have more context | 18:31 |
lbragstad | that'd be great | 18:31 |
lbragstad | anyone have anything else? | 18:32 |
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samueldmq | lbragstad: I will look at project-tags | 18:32 |
samueldmq | then global roles | 18:32 |
samueldmq | if that order makes sense | 18:32 |
lbragstad | samueldmq: ++ yeah i need to take a gander at project tags again | 18:33 |
lbragstad | unless there are more questions, we can get some time back | 18:33 |
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lbragstad | reminder: office hours starts at the top of the hour | 18:34 |
lbragstad | thanks for coming! | 18:34 |
lbragstad | #endmeeting | 18:34 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 29 18:34:39 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:34 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-08-29-18.01.html | 18:34 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-08-29-18.01.txt | 18:34 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-08-29-18.01.log.html | 18:34 |
hrybacki | o/ | 18:34 |
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samueldmq | thanks all | 18:37 |
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clarkb | Infra meeting will begin shortly. Anyone here for that? | 18:59 |
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Zara | o/ | 18:59 |
* cmurphy is around | 18:59 | |
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jeblair | o/ | 19:00 |
fungi | i guess i'm here! | 19:00 |
ianw | morning! | 19:01 |
* fungi is happy to be an attendee and not a chair for a change ;) | 19:01 | |
clarkb | good morning | 19:01 |
clarkb | alright lets go ahead and get started | 19:01 |
clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 29 19:01:29 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
clarkb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:01 |
clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
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clarkb | #info Pike release tomorrow, 2017-08-30 | 19:02 |
bkero | o/ | 19:02 |
clarkb | Early in the morning PDT the release will be happening. | 19:02 |
bkero | fungi: welcome to the other side :) | 19:02 |
fungi | release weeks are always fun | 19:02 |
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jeblair | good to know! | 19:02 |
clarkb | 1100UTC is when the fun begins | 19:02 |
fungi | i've volunteered to be around starting at 1100z in case anything comes up | 19:02 |
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clarkb | #info PTG planning | 19:03 |
clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-ptg-queens | 19:03 |
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dmsimard | \o | 19:03 |
clarkb | I've gone ahead and edited that etherpad to be a bit more agenda like (though still not quite an agenda) | 19:03 |
clarkb | Please add or edit items if necessary | 19:03 |
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mordred | o/ | 19:04 |
clarkb | #link https://ttx.re/queens-ptg.html Thierry has also written down what you can expect and gives a good overview of the planning and organization of the PTG at a high level | 19:04 |
clarkb | #info Queens Cycle signing key ready for attestation | 19:04 |
clarkb | #link https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x4c8b8b5a694f612544b3b4bac52f01a3fbdb9949&fingerprint=on Queens Cycle signing key | 19:04 |
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clarkb | #link http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/signing.html#attestation attestation process | 19:05 |
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clarkb | fungi would like us to go and sign the queens cycle release key | 19:05 |
clarkb | infra-root please do that when you have a spare moment | 19:05 |
fungi | i expect to swap that one into production at or shortly following the ptg | 19:05 |
fungi | once the cycle-trailing projects are tagged | 19:05 |
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fungi | i meant to have it ready earlier, so apologies for the short notice | 19:06 |
jeblair | this might be a good time to update the docs to incorporate the new key into zuulv3 | 19:06 |
clarkb | that is all I had for announcements, does anyone have any to add? | 19:06 |
fungi | i also added a suggestion to the ptg planning etherpad that we could do some key signing there if anyone wants to so it face-to-face | 19:06 |
mordred | jeblair: ++ | 19:06 |
jeblair | fungi: ++keysigning | 19:06 |
fungi | s/so/do/ | 19:06 |
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fungi | i'll give the release team a heads up at their meeting on friday that the new keys is available too | 19:07 |
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fungi | er, new key | 19:07 |
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clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:08 |
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clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-08-22-19.03.txt Minutes from last meeting | 19:08 |
clarkb | fungi: have you managed to get switchport counts for infracloud together? I didn't dig into that csv you posted when debugging chocolate | 19:08 |
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fungi | nope, that's the old table i fished out of an earlier audit which doesn't have switching/connectivity details | 19:09 |
pabelanger | o/ | 19:09 |
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fungi | though the dcm there doesn't seem to be getting back to me on it either | 19:09 |
fungi | at the moment, he's also probably keeping an eye on rising floodwaters :/ | 19:09 |
clarkb | ya. We can keep it on the list of todos so we don't forget but I imagine flooding has made this a very low priority for them | 19:10 |
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clarkb | #action fungi get switchport counts for infra-cloud | 19:10 |
clarkb | I did send out a reminder to the dev list about the gerrit upgrade. I will try to send out another during the PTG (or maybe even remind people at lunch) | 19:10 |
clarkb | ianw: I don't think the mirror update server has been updated yet right? probably worth waiting for after the release tomorrow since we are so close to that | 19:11 |
ianw | no, i chatted to tonyb about it ... but yeah, low priority given release | 19:11 |
clarkb | #action ianw upgrade mirror-update server and bandersnatch | 19:12 |
clarkb | #topic Specs approval | 19:12 |
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clarkb | as of today I now have the right gerrit permissions to approve these. | 19:12 |
fungi | as of today i no longer have the responsibility to approve these ;) | 19:13 |
clarkb | I don't see any new specs (not surprising given run up to release and ptg and zuulv3) | 19:13 |
clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462207/ | 19:13 |
mordred | congratulations and condolensces to you both :) | 19:13 |
Zara | +1 | 19:13 |
fungi | clarkb: i guess that one's ready for rollcall? | 19:14 |
fungi | it's just a catch-up to what was implemented, right? | 19:14 |
clarkb | fungi: ya, though it already has a few of those votes and isn't very controversial. Do you all want until thursday to look it over or should I go ahead and merge it? | 19:14 |
clarkb | fungi: yup | 19:14 |
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fungi | no opinion, though it already has more rollcall votes than a lot of entire specs i ended up approving | 19:15 |
* fungi just added one more | 19:16 | |
clarkb | I don't mind waiting until Thursday, it is what we've done in the past and gives otehrs a chance to review it if relying on that | 19:16 |
clarkb | so why don't we open this up and I'll check in on it on Thursday | 19:16 |
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clarkb | are there any other specs that should be called out? | 19:17 |
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clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:18 |
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clarkb | #info Gerrit ContactStore Removal | 19:19 |
clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/492287/ | 19:19 |
clarkb | this change is the cleanup in infra-specs for the contactstore removal. It depends on a couple changes that need review. Would be nice to get those in so we can take this off of the list | 19:19 |
clarkb | gerrit topic:contact-store-removal | 19:20 |
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clarkb | #topic Zuulv3 | 19:20 |
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clarkb | jeblair: anything you want to add here? I think we will be using this time slot next week for quick zuul meeting due to monday holiday? | 19:20 |
jeblair | yes, next week is our last meeting before the ptg, and monday is a holiday so no zuul meeting, so i'd like to check in on zuulv3 jobs then | 19:21 |
fungi | lots and lots of job changes flying for zuulv3 right now | 19:21 |
fungi | is there a recommended priority order to review them in? or just reviewreviewreview? | 19:21 |
jeblair | i think it makes sense for that effort to start merging with the wider infra team around then anyway :) | 19:21 |
jeblair | fungi: basically the second :) | 19:22 |
fungi | k, will do | 19:22 |
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jeblair | clarkb: i do have an item for today though: | 19:22 |
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jeblair | i'd like to chat about the git repo cache | 19:22 |
mordred | yah | 19:22 |
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jeblair | in working on the devstack-legacy job (basically devstack-gate run as close as possible to the way we run it now) i found that the minimum projects list is still relatively long | 19:23 |
jeblair | clarkb has done much work in reducing it (thanks!) | 19:23 |
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jeblair | but it's still not minimal. the git repos add up to about 2.3G | 19:23 |
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jeblair | now in zuulv3, one of the things we wanted to do was avoid the need for a git cache on the images, so, to date, we push all the git repos from the executor to the nodes | 19:24 |
jeblair | in infra cloud, that 2.3GB transfer takes about 1 hour | 19:24 |
jeblair | (and of course, if more nodes are doing it, it will take even longer) | 19:24 |
jeblair | like almost everything else in zuulv3, of course we don't *have* to do it that way | 19:24 |
jeblair | we *can* use the git cache which is still there on the images | 19:25 |
jeblair | and i'm working on patches to do that | 19:25 |
jeblair | but the discussion i think we should have as a group is: | 19:25 |
* mordred is in favor of adding support to the git repo copying for using a git cache if one exists | 19:25 | |
fungi | do we have any real-world tests for pushing zuul refs in v3 for larger repos like nova? | 19:26 |
fungi | i imagine it's at least as straining as a git clone nova on a node would be | 19:26 |
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jeblair | * what are our feelings around the on-image git repo caches short and long term? we had wanted to minimize image size; do we want to keep the caches around just for the transition? until something happens to ameliorate the infra-cloud problem? permanently? | 19:26 |
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jeblair | fungi: i don't think we've pushed nova until this test (but nova is included in this test) | 19:27 |
ianw | yeah, at 150+mb that's bigger than some image downloads, and they've been terribly unreliable, and we don't have local git mirrors? | 19:27 |
fungi | we've mostly been coping with the larger image sizes, though i get it's not ideal | 19:27 |
clarkb | right now the resource in image size seems to be less important that in aggregate cloud bw in part because we can copy a good chunk of the data that needs to move once a day rather than for every job | 19:27 |
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fungi | my preference is to get some comparisons between with and without leveraging the local cache for a devstack run, but likely use the on-disk git caches at least through a transitional period until we can get some better real-world data on the impact of not having them | 19:28 |
pabelanger | Our image builds have been pretty stable for the last while, and with zuulv3 it makes it much easier to ensure DIB uploads. Right now, it takes about ~40mins to build an image, then another 1hr to upload them all with rackspace. I'd be okay with continuing to use /opt/git cache if available | 19:28 |
jeblair | (incidentally pabelanger brought up a suggestion earlier: locate executors in clouds. it's a good idea, but i don't see us being able to implement it until something like the zuul v4 timeframe.) | 19:29 |
mordred | jeblair: yah - I think that's likely a great step, but I agree, it's not for now | 19:29 |
clarkb | jeblair: beacuse we'd need to restrict them to only talking to local instances right? | 19:29 |
pabelanger | Ya, I like the idea of regional zuul-executors too, but v4 wfm | 19:29 |
jeblair | clarkb: also it's awkward with gearman | 19:30 |
fungi | yep, that gets us a nice middle-ground between on-disk git caches and updating from in-provider caches | 19:30 |
mordred | so I think using the git caches until we can show a migration plan off of them that doesn't add an hour of build time seems sane to me | 19:30 |
clarkb | mordred: ++ | 19:30 |
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fungi | that might be enough of an improvement to make not having the on-disk caches bearable | 19:30 |
pabelanger | mordred: ++ | 19:30 |
mordred | also - since the git repo copying is done in a role in teh base job, once we're past PTG and ready to try things, we can always push up test jobs taht don't use the cache for comparison | 19:31 |
mordred | as we think we might have the situation licked | 19:31 |
jeblair | mordred, fungi: that's fair. a followup question -- shall we use this for all jobs? (i don't see why not) | 19:31 |
fungi | i do worry what it looks like to be doing a nova repo push across the atlantic | 19:31 |
mordred | jeblair: yah, I think so | 19:31 |
clarkb | I think that cinder multiattached volumes may actually have gotten in this release too, so in the future if all our clouds get to pike release and we haven't solved it otherwse we could try the local cinder volume cache idea as well | 19:31 |
fungi | i believe using it for all jobs makes sense from a consistency standpoint | 19:31 |
mordred | jeblair: basically making the current git repo rsync step smarter would get us a bunch of traction | 19:32 |
clarkb | jeblair: yes I think so, it will probably only cause confusion if we let users pick or choose | 19:32 |
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fungi | making sure zuul v3 works without on-disk caches is still important of course, but we should likely continue to use them consistently for now | 19:32 |
jeblair | fungi: when you asaid 'in-provider cache' did you mean image, or do you mean setting something up on a new host, like the mirror, and cloning from there? | 19:32 |
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jeblair | or put another way -- is anyone suggesting that idea ^? | 19:32 |
mordred | jeblair: it's not a terrible idea - but I think it's also a post-ptg kind of idea (and has a similar logic to optional-on-disk cache) | 19:33 |
fungi | i meant having the executors co-located in the same provider as the nodes they're driving would be sort of like having nodes do git clones from in-provider git mirror endpoints | 19:33 |
mordred | "please rsync these prepared repos to this node, but first please get base versions of those repos from XXX" | 19:33 |
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clarkb | mordred: ya in large part because everyone wants to cache all the things that way and it turns out that scaling for caching the internet isn't straightforward | 19:33 |
jeblair | mordred: ya | 19:33 |
fungi | from a performance perspective i meant | 19:33 |
mordred | fungi: ++ | 19:33 |
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jeblair | so that may be something to consider if, after the ptg, we still want to further reduce image size but otherwise still have this problem | 19:34 |
fungi | i probably didn't actually say what i meant though ;) | 19:34 |
mordred | fungi: I also like the per-provider executors concept if/when we can make a good plan for it | 19:34 |
mordred | jeblair: ++ | 19:34 |
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jeblair | (also, i think we're about to be able to drop the deb- repos from the cache, so that should, like, halve its size) | 19:34 |
mordred | yah | 19:34 |
pabelanger | yup, retiring today actually | 19:34 |
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clarkb | we already don't cache them | 19:34 |
jeblair | drat | 19:34 |
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fungi | right, wendar has been working on that today | 19:34 |
mordred | fungi: speaking of - we should land that jeepyb change to stop showing retired repos ... | 19:34 |
jeblair | easy win was too easy | 19:34 |
mordred | jeblair: :( | 19:35 |
jeblair | okay so i'd propose an #agreed use the git repo cache for all v3 jobs until at least the transition is complete, then revisit | 19:35 |
fungi | mordred: seems like a good idea to me (and also skip them in codesearch). were there changes up for review? | 19:35 |
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clarkb | we probably can optimize that list a bit more though, liek double check we don't cache stackforge/ etc | 19:35 |
mordred | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478992/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478939 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467235 if anybody feels like reviewing jeepyb changes | 19:35 |
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mordred | fungi: I didn't think about codesearch - that's another good idea to add there | 19:36 |
clarkb | #agreed use the git repo cache for all v3 jobs until at least the transition is complete, then revisit | 19:36 |
jeblair | clarkb: eot from me | 19:36 |
mordred | clarkb: we should grab the projects.yaml list and filter anything marked retired using the same logic as those patches ^^ | 19:36 |
clarkb | (happy to #undo that if someone disagrees but I heard general agreement ) | 19:36 |
mordred | in the image building | 19:36 |
clarkb | mordred: ++ | 19:36 |
fungi | i agree there's agreement | 19:37 |
clarkb | alright moving on | 19:37 |
clarkb | #topic General topics | 19:37 |
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clarkb | #info Infracloud SSL certs were swapped out for snakeoil certs | 19:37 |
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fungi | and there was much rejoicing? | 19:38 |
clarkb | last week infracloud vanilla's ssl cert expired. So we did a quick switch over to its snakeoil cert because it already has the correct CN in it. Then yesterday did the same in chocolate as its cert expires in a month | 19:38 |
clarkb | in the process updated how puppet master trust's those certs with clouds.yaml. We now directly trust the public cert rather than using update-ca-certificates (whcih wasn't puppeted on puppetmaster) | 19:39 |
fungi | what's the expiration period on the snakeoils? | 19:39 |
clarkb | fungi: 10 years, so ~9 more | 19:39 |
fungi | long enough, thanks ;) | 19:39 |
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clarkb | this should be safe because if we swap out certs we don't need to revoke anything as we will just explicitly trust the new cert and stop trusting the old | 19:39 |
clarkb | I guess that is like a local revocation | 19:39 |
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clarkb | I should also write up how certs are managed. This isn't currently documented and created some initial confusion while we figured it out | 19:40 |
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clarkb | #action clarkb update infracloud docs to include ssl setup info | 19:41 |
clarkb | #info PTG Team Dinner | 19:41 |
clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-ptg-team-dinner | 19:41 |
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clarkb | If you are interested in joining us for a dinner in denver please add yourself to that etherpad with availabilty info | 19:42 |
clarkb | it is looking like Tuesday will have to be the night based on current availability | 19:43 |
clarkb | I think there is a happy hour thing at the PTG that evenign we can use to meet up and head out to somewhere like lowry beer garden | 19:43 |
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pabelanger | +1 | 19:43 |
clarkb | I'll likely solidy our plans for that early next week (so please do fill out the etherpad if you haven't yet) | 19:43 |
clarkb | *solidify | 19:43 |
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clarkb | #topic Open discussion | 19:44 |
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clarkb | That was basically all I had. Excited to see everyone in a couple weeks. | 19:44 |
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jeblair | ++ | 19:45 |
Zara | :D | 19:46 |
fungi | looking forward to it. it will be nice to not to be the cat herder this time | 19:46 |
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fungi | hoping i can get deeper into stuff than i did last ptg | 19:46 |
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clarkb | Next monday is a holiday in various parts of the world including the US and Canada | 19:47 |
fungi | i will likely still be mostly around | 19:48 |
fungi | in case anything comes up | 19:48 |
fungi | i don't have any travel plans for the weekend/holiday | 19:48 |
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clarkb | Alright, doesn't sound like we've got much for open discussion. You can find us in #openstack-infra if something comes up or on the mailing list. Thank you everyone | 19:49 |
clarkb | #endmeeting | 19:49 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 29 19:49:44 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:49 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-08-29-19.01.html | 19:49 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-08-29-19.01.txt | 19:49 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-08-29-19.01.log.html | 19:49 |
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smcginnis | clarkb: No cinder multiattach yet. | 19:59 |
smcginnis | Hopefully queens. | 19:59 |
clarkb | ah darn | 20:01 |
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