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| kota_ | hey! mattoliverau! | 07:01 |
| mattoliverau | #startmeeting swift | 07:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 4 07:01:26 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattoliverau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 07:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 07:01 |
| mattoliverau | ok, now officially for the log... who's here for the swift team meeting? | 07:01 |
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| kota_ | I'm here | 07:02 |
| mahatic | hello | 07:02 |
| mattoliverau | Agenda is: | 07:02 |
| mattoliverau | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 07:02 |
| psachin | me too | 07:02 |
| mattoliverau | \o/ I like not talking to myself :) | 07:02 |
| acoles | hi | 07:03 |
| acoles | sorry my client/bouncer is being weird | 07:03 |
| mattoliverau | Wecome everyone | 07:03 |
| mattoliverau | acoles: yeah, my internet has been spotty today too.. but looks like in a few days I might get better internet in the area | 07:03 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: for when you read this... yes the NBN | 07:04 |
| mattoliverau | So hopefully I've have both a beach and internet that's faster then a wet piece of string ;) | 07:04 |
| mattoliverau | Also note, I've had _way_ to much coffee, so please slap me if I go too far off on tangents like this | 07:05 |
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| acoles | mattoliverau: you're doing great | 07:05 |
| mattoliverau | :) | 07:05 |
| mattoliverau | first up | 07:05 |
| mattoliverau | #topic Denver PTG Recap | 07:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Denver PTG Recap (Meeting topic: swift)" | 07:05 | |
| mattoliverau | Denver was a few weeks ago, and not all of use could be there | 07:05 |
| mattoliverau | those who couldn't, you were definitely missed | 07:06 |
| mattoliverau | we tried to update the etherpad with notes | 07:06 |
| mattoliverau | Our etherpad is | 07:06 |
| mattoliverau | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-ptg-queens | 07:06 |
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| mattoliverau | For the benefit of those who weren't around I thought it would be nice for those of us who were to do a recap | 07:07 |
| kota_ | +1 | 07:07 |
| mattoliverau | so for those who where there, any comments? what was your favourite bits? How'd it go? What could we do better? | 07:07 |
| mattoliverau | Other then the train.. which kept people up | 07:08 |
| mattoliverau | For me, I was surprised at the turn out. I didn't expect as many people as there was | 07:08 |
| mahatic | that's great to hear | 07:09 |
| mattoliverau | The venue was in the middle of nowhere | 07:09 |
| mattoliverau | so not good for turing denver | 07:09 |
| acoles | we spent some time discussing what people's priorities were, that was useful | 07:09 |
| mattoliverau | but I thought it was very productive | 07:09 |
| mattoliverau | yeah! | 07:09 |
| kota_ | yup | 07:09 |
| mattoliverau | So on the first day of the Swift days, we started asking people about priorities for people and there repected companies | 07:10 |
| acoles | for some of us container sharding is important and we spent quite a bit of time looking at mattoliverau proof of concept | 07:10 |
| acoles | there are some notes on that linked off the etherpad | 07:10 |
| * kota_ is looking for summary page using tag style web page... | 07:10 | |
| acoles | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/deep-containers | 07:10 |
| acoles | we also heard about progress on lots-of-small-file support from rledisez and alecuyer | 07:11 |
| mattoliverau | oh yeah and we're calling sharding, sharding but also deep containers, in case you've been wondering about the new feature branch | 07:11 |
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| acoles | mattoliverau: right, yes, the sharding work is not continuing on feature/deep | 07:12 |
| acoles | s/not/now/ oops! | 07:12 |
| mahatic | heh | 07:12 |
| mattoliverau | wow, phew.. | 07:12 |
| acoles | it definitely *is* continuing | 07:12 |
| kota_ | s3api is also one of feature branch work since the ptg | 07:12 |
| mahatic | got it :D | 07:12 |
| mattoliverau | we decided the speed sharding momentum, it needed a feature branch, and a way of collaborating (trello). | 07:13 |
| mattoliverau | and so far I think it's working well | 07:13 |
| mattoliverau | timburke and acoles are amazing! | 07:13 |
| acoles | kota_: yes, e also spent some time discussing s3 support | 07:13 |
| acoles | we* | 07:13 |
| kota_ | the continuous discussion is on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/s3api-middleware | 07:13 |
| acoles | ugh, my fingers are still asleep! | 07:13 |
| kota_ | lol | 07:14 |
| kota_ | we'll freeze swift3 repo in the near future and starting to migrate to the swift repo namespace | 07:14 |
| mahatic | acoles: we're able to follow you though | 07:14 |
| mattoliverau | Speaking of kota_, he did great in an RDO interview about swift (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7UmrNJ80qc and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeieJDdJ5Q4) | 07:14 |
| kota_ | mattoliverau: you too! | 07:15 |
| acoles | Also, I know people worked on the symlink patch in Denver and since then. It is definitely ready for final reviews as I understand it | 07:15 |
| acoles | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232162/ | 07:15 |
| kota_ | acoles: that's what I am going to say! | 07:15 |
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| mattoliverau | SwiftHLM is moving into the openstack namespace.. which is cool | 07:16 |
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| mahatic | oic | 07:16 |
| kota_ | fyi for symlink, I'm starting to address some issues on the patch at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509149/1 | 07:17 |
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| kota_ | I don't find any *BIG* issues right now, just minor bug and style fixes there. | 07:17 |
| kota_ | (for now) | 07:17 |
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| * kota_ is thinking the patch hit zuul down in the recent days? | 07:18 | |
| mattoliverau | Also I think they were saying the next PTG might be in Dublin Ireland | 07:18 |
| mattoliverau | kota_: oh yeah. I think zuul needed to be rolled back or something | 07:19 |
| kota_ | mattoliverau: and also we might have virtual hackathon in Nov or Dec? | 07:19 |
| acoles | another thing to mention for people who weren't able to be in Denver...there was talk that we might have a 'virtual hackathon' between now and next PTG. Nothing confirmed yet, possibly December or January timeframe. | 07:19 |
| mattoliverau | oh yeah, I forgot about that. | 07:19 |
| kota_ | it's still not decided yet on anything (date, how it works, ... etc) | 07:19 |
| acoles | kota_: you beat me that time! | 07:20 |
| mattoliverau | I think we were going to see how another teams virtual hackathon went | 07:20 |
| mahatic | that's awesome | 07:20 |
| kota_ | hehe | 07:20 |
| mattoliverau | maybe all nighters at home.. the end of hackathon day drinks will be interesting ;) | 07:20 |
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| mattoliverau | and I'm sure the toddler will let me sleep during the day :P | 07:21 |
| mattoliverau | Anything else for the PTG recap? | 07:21 |
| acoles | and we're going to try to be better about bug triage (and fixing) so we had a firtst bug triage day last wednesday...which is simply a day on calendar when we all try to give some time to bug work | 07:21 |
| mattoliverau | any questions from those who didn't attend? | 07:21 |
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| mattoliverau | oh yeah. The monday and tuesday we held an informal bug triage smash | 07:22 |
| mattoliverau | As I've been calling it the 'great bug triage of 2017' | 07:22 |
| mattoliverau | it went really well, we didn't complete the huge list of NEW bugs... but we made a huge difference.. maybe got 2/3s through | 07:23 |
| mattoliverau | maybe more | 07:24 |
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| mattoliverau | tdasilva and cschewde did awesome organising it | 07:24 |
| acoles | +1 | 07:24 |
| kota_ | +1 | 07:24 |
| mahatic | how did the cross group collaboration go? Was it worth it to be there the first two days of the PTG (other than bug triage work) ? | 07:25 |
| mattoliverau | good question | 07:25 |
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| mattoliverau | I can only answer for myself. I thought it was totally worth it. I got to help out the openstack ansible and talk to the release guys a bit. The hallway track on the first 2 days was great, as there was more time to stop and talk. | 07:26 |
| acoles | mahatic: I'm not sure - I spent one of those days on bug triage and on the other I needed to deal with some internal work | 07:26 |
| mattoliverau | for me, totally worth it. | 07:26 |
| mahatic | okay, that's good to know | 07:27 |
| mattoliverau | the swift team were involved in the initial discussions of the simplifying openstack cross project group | 07:27 |
| mattoliverau | we kinda stole the room because it was empty | 07:28 |
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| mattoliverau | but some good discussions were had. At least amonst a few of us | 07:28 |
| kota_ | oh, yeah. release and infra team room was nice | 07:28 |
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| mattoliverau | kota_: did anything happen on the storelets front? | 07:28 |
| kota_ | I also visited the room to ask a bit on the storlets release. They had name tag on top of each table, we're working on xxxx | 07:29 |
| mattoliverau | I guess you might have your own meeting for that | 07:29 |
| mattoliverau | oh cool | 07:29 |
| kota_ | mattoliverau: it's moving to change the release style to address common openstack rule (i.e. queen-1 | 07:29 |
| kota_ | ) | 07:29 |
| kota_ | and I asked how to manage the release there. | 07:30 |
| mattoliverau | nice, since we don't follow it, it's good you asked cause we, or at least I, have no idea :P | 07:30 |
| mattoliverau | Anyway, the best part of the PTG was catching up with the Swift team ;) | 07:31 |
| mattoliverau | as always | 07:31 |
| mattoliverau | there isn't too much else on the ajenda today. So it'll be a shortish meeting if there isn't much else. | 07:32 |
| kota_ | yup | 07:32 |
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| kota_ | ah, | 07:33 |
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| * kota_ is thinking of who else is the next chair | 07:33 | |
| mattoliverau | lol, I'll move to sydney summit first :) | 07:33 |
| mattoliverau | #topic Sydney Summit | 07:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sydney Summit (Meeting topic: swift)" | 07:33 | |
| mattoliverau | this is my reminder that the summit is on and the schedule has been released | 07:33 |
| mattoliverau | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule | 07:34 |
| mattoliverau | I'll be there | 07:34 |
| kota_ | me too | 07:34 |
| mattoliverau | but that probably isn't much of a surprise ;) | 07:34 |
| mattoliverau | kota_: \o/ | 07:34 |
| mattoliverau | I know its far and only for a few days.. unless you sight see/vacation.. which you should | 07:34 |
| kota_ | i already got the flight ticket and booked my hotel room. | 07:34 |
| mattoliverau | nice | 07:34 |
| mattoliverau | me too. | 07:35 |
| m_kazuhiro | me too. | 07:35 |
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| mattoliverau | I'm heading into sydney on the Friday night, because I'm planning on helping at the Openstack hackathon on the weekend before as a mentor | 07:35 |
| mattoliverau | m_kazuhiro: \o/ | 07:35 |
| mattoliverau | well, I was asked by people at the foundation, but haven't been confirmed yet. | 07:36 |
| mattoliverau | Australia is awesome! just saying ;) | 07:37 |
| mattoliverau | so come visit my home country | 07:37 |
| kota_ | I'm looking forward to being there ;) | 07:37 |
| kota_ | that will be my first visit to Australia | 07:38 |
| mattoliverau | kota_: really! nice. let me know if there is anything I can help with or if you need to place to stay | 07:38 |
| mattoliverau | tho, I'm a little out of the way.. but I live on a beach | 07:39 |
| mattoliverau | moving on | 07:39 |
| kota_ | :) | 07:39 |
| mattoliverau | #topic Open Discussion | 07:39 |
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| mattoliverau | Anything else anyone wants to talk about before moving on to the next chair? | 07:40 |
| acoles | I hope you all have a great time at the summit | 07:40 |
| mattoliverau | acoles: you'll need to come visit me one day | 07:41 |
| mattoliverau | right.. lets move to the last topic of the meeting | 07:41 |
| mattoliverau | #topic Next Meeting's Chairperson | 07:41 |
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| * acoles heads for the door | 07:41 | |
| mattoliverau | lol | 07:41 |
| kota_ | lol | 07:41 |
| mattoliverau | do we have any volunteers? | 07:42 |
| mattoliverau | or are we going by names? | 07:42 |
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| acoles | I can do one | 07:42 |
| mattoliverau | acoles: great, sold! | 07:42 |
| acoles | October 18th right? | 07:43 |
| * mattoliverau thinks acoles did'nt quite get out of this little office in time ;) | 07:43 | |
| mattoliverau | yup | 07:43 |
| mattoliverau | acoles: that good for you? | 07:43 |
| mahatic | thanks acoles! | 07:44 |
| acoles | yes. I'll still be on BST so a little easier | 07:44 |
| kota_ | thanks! | 07:44 |
| mattoliverau | #agreed acoles | 07:44 |
| mattoliverau | thank acoles | 07:44 |
| acoles | it's 8am start, after that I will be on UTC | 07:44 |
| mattoliverau | *thanks | 07:44 |
| m_kazuhiro | acoles: thank you! | 07:44 |
| mattoliverau | acoles: ahh, you'd do the dreaded 7am meetings.. I know it well :) | 07:45 |
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| mattoliverau | infact, your on my times for the other meeting | 07:45 |
| acoles | I didn't say I would be there!! I commit to October 18th and no more :P | 07:45 |
| mattoliverau | the other meeting is now 8am (I've moved to day light savings (summer time)) | 07:46 |
| mattoliverau | and was 7am | 07:46 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 07:46 |
| mahatic | lol | 07:46 |
| mattoliverau | great, well that's all we have.. so if there is nothing else, you can all have an early mark | 07:46 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: thanks for charingin today | 07:47 |
| mattoliverau | nps | 07:47 |
| mahatic | yup, thanks mattoliverau ! | 07:47 |
| mattoliverau | Now to channel my inner notmyname, thank you for your work on swift! | 07:47 |
| mattoliverau | #endmeeting | 07:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 4 07:47:33 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-10-04-07.01.html | 07:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-10-04-07.01.txt | 07:47 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-10-04-07.01.log.html | 07:47 |
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| witek | #startmeeting monasca | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 4 14:00:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 14:00 |
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| witek | Hello everyone | 14:00 |
| koji | o/ | 14:00 |
| haruki | hi | 14:00 |
| sc | hi | 14:00 |
| cbellucci | o/ | 14:00 |
| witek | Link to agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
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| witek | #topic monasca-agent python3 compatible | 14:01 |
| sc | may we switch discussion topics, I'm busy reading a document but I'll need to have your opionon on the agent | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "monasca-agent python3 compatible (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:01 | |
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| witek | ok | 14:01 |
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| witek | so you want to move the first point to later? | 14:02 |
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| witek | #topic remove monasca-api Java implementation | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "remove monasca-api Java implementation (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:03 | |
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| witek | we have discussed during our meet-up deprecation of Java in monasca-api | 14:04 |
| witek | I would like to go further and completely remove the code | 14:04 |
| witek | wanted to ask you, if there are any objections to that? | 14:05 |
| jgu_ | witek: it occurred to me that essentially deprecates Vertica | 14:05 |
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| witek | jgu_: yes, Vertica is only in Java | 14:05 |
| sc | jgu_: that is going to be deprecated any way | 14:06 |
| jgu_ | we are not ready for deprecating Vertica yet | 14:06 |
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| jgu_ | our current release is still in Vertica until Cassandra is merged in | 14:06 |
| sc | jgu_: this is what I was about to say | 14:07 |
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| witek | OK, that's important reason | 14:07 |
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| sc | we still need the java, so I thing that a deprecation period is needed | 14:07 |
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| jgu_ | sc: agreed | 14:07 |
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| sc | jgu_: there is a good reason I'm looking closer to your work ;-) | 14:08 |
| witek | good, we'll mark it deprecated then and leave in the repo for one more release | 14:08 |
| sc | this is OK for me | 14:08 |
| jgu_ | one more release after queens? | 14:08 |
| witek | as soon as we have Cassandra | 14:09 |
| jgu_ | that sounds good :-) | 14:09 |
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| witek | #topic Remove keystone auth cache dir | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Remove keystone auth cache dir (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:10 | |
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| witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509311/ | 14:11 |
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| witek | after upstream changes in devstack it doesn't seem a blocker anymore | 14:11 |
| witek | but a good change anyway | 14:12 |
| jgu_ | it was still broken yesterday evening. which upstream change from devstack? | 14:12 |
| witek | Kien has cited in review | 14:13 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509307/ | 14:13 |
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| jgu_ | they reverted the devstack change :-) | 14:14 |
| jgu_ | cool | 14:14 |
| witek | but they'll remove it anyway so your change can be merged as soon as the gates are functional again | 14:15 |
| witek | #topic Zuul v3 migration | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Zuul v3 migration (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:16 | |
| witek | https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/zuulv3.html | 14:16 |
| witek | OpenStack infra has upgraded Zuul | 14:16 |
| witek | unfortunately it impacts our CI jobs as you can see | 14:17 |
| witek | we have 2 engineers working on migrating the configuration | 14:18 |
| witek | they have also switched on the old Zuul v2 jobs today again, so perhaps we could have some temporary solution in short term | 14:19 |
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| witek | sc: can we now move to Python 3 topic? | 14:20 |
| sc | yes | 14:22 |
| witek | #topic monasca-agent python3 compatible | 14:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "monasca-agent python3 compatible (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:22 | |
| sc | there are two options | 14:22 |
| sc | 1) use a fork of supervisor that is python 3 compatible but not python 2 compatible | 14:23 |
| sc | 2) get rid of supervisor and add a contrib directory to the project with the suggested systemd configurations | 14:23 |
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| sc | which aproach do you prefer? | 14:24 |
| akiraY | 2) | 14:24 |
| jgr | Much as it pains me (I'm generally not fond of things depending on systemd), I vote for (2). | 14:24 |
| witek | could you give the reference to the fork? | 14:24 |
| jgr | (I'm even less fond of supervisor) | 14:24 |
| sc | just a second | 14:25 |
| sc | I the link | 14:25 |
| witek | supervisor is not in global requirements | 14:25 |
| witek | and I guess it could be difficult to get it in | 14:26 |
| sc | no | 14:26 |
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| sc | orgsea/supervisor-py3k | 14:27 |
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| sc | https://github.com/orgsea/supervisor-py3k | 14:27 |
| witek | thanks | 14:27 |
| sc | if I understood correctly this is not py2 compatible | 14:28 |
| witek | for option 2) isn't monasca_setup taking care of generating systemd config? | 14:29 |
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| sc | witek: I don't remember if so we need to change the generated systemd configurations in a way that collected and forwarder are started in the right order and the restarted if broken | 14:30 |
| witek | yes, I think it's also my preference | 14:31 |
| sc | the devstack plugin has systemd configuration | 14:31 |
| jgr | witek: optionally, yes. But that creates a service file that assumes supervisor is used. | 14:31 |
| witek | jgr: sure, we'd have to update it | 14:31 |
| sc | witek: are you proposing to patch monasca_setup? | 14:31 |
| jgr | So monasca_setup would need to be changed to create 3 units instead of one. | 14:31 |
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| witek | correct | 14:32 |
| sc | my idea is to get systemd configuration out | 14:32 |
| akiraY | is supervisor-py3k under development? | 14:32 |
| sc | explicitly available in the repo | 14:32 |
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| jgr | akiraY: it looks like it's under development for now... | 14:33 |
| akiraY | https://github.com/orgsea/supervisor-py3k/blob/master/setup.py | 14:33 |
| sc | something like our friends in cloudkitty are doing: | 14:33 |
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| sc | https://github.com/openstack/cloudkitty/blob/master/contrib/init/cloudkitty-processor.service | 14:33 |
| jgr | akiraY: and I'm a bit worried that "for now" may turn into "freshly abandoned" at some stage (it looks like a one man project). | 14:33 |
| akiraY | me, too. | 14:34 |
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| sc | I'm for solution 2), too but now the question is: monasca_setup or external config files? | 14:35 |
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| jgr | monasca_setup is fine by me as long as it remains optional (the way it is right now). | 14:35 |
| witek | I like the monasca_setup approach, where you can set an option if you want to generate service files or not | 14:35 |
| witek | explicit files can be added to the repo anyway | 14:36 |
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| sc | OK, so now I know where to break things :-) | 14:36 |
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| jgr | I.e. we'll provide our own unit files in our monasca-agent package and are not overly keen on monasca-setup messing with these :-) | 14:37 |
| witek | :) | 14:37 |
| witek | sc: do you want to work on this? | 14:37 |
| sc | I'm adding to my personal backlog | 14:38 |
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| witek | great, thanks | 14:38 |
| witek | anything else to this topic? | 14:39 |
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| witek | do we have other topics? | 14:40 |
| jgr | Yes https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/queens/policy-in-code.html | 14:40 |
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| witek | #topic policy in code | 14:40 |
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| witek | I haven't looked to it yet | 14:40 |
| jgr | I'm currently working on a spec for this, but I'm also trolling for volunteers... :-) | 14:40 |
| witek | I'll check with our team | 14:41 |
| jgr | I.e. I'm happy to do a writeup of what needs doing in the spec, but I don't think I'll have the capacity to do the implementation as well (the agent domain thing is more than enough, I think...) | 14:41 |
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| witek | your help with writing things up would be great | 14:42 |
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| jgr | No worries, I'll do it :-) | 14:42 |
| witek | btw. your first spec is in good shape, I guess | 14:42 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507110/ | 14:43 |
| witek | please, have a look, would be great to have that merged soon | 14:43 |
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| jgr | And I still need to check how this impacts the events API... | 14:44 |
| jgr | (or how the events API affects it) | 14:44 |
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| jgr | I'll try to make some time for that tomorrow. | 14:45 |
| witek | should be similar to logs | 14:45 |
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| jgr | Ok. That sounds like it definitely has an impact. | 14:46 |
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| witek | is there anyone else, who wants to work on "policy in code" community goal? | 14:47 |
| witek | some other topics? | 14:48 |
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| akiraY | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501601/ | 14:48 |
| akiraY | I'll put 'recheck' after ci will work well. | 14:49 |
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| witek | has added myself to review | 14:50 |
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| akiraY | thank you. | 14:50 |
| witek | ok, if there are no more topics, we may be closing | 14:51 |
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| witek | thanks you | 14:52 |
| haruki | thank you | 14:52 |
| akiraY | thanks | 14:52 |
| jgr | Thank you! | 14:52 |
| witek | have a nice rest of the week | 14:52 |
| witek | and see you | 14:53 |
| witek | #endmeeting | 14:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 4 14:53:17 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-10-04-14.00.html | 14:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-10-04-14.00.txt | 14:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-10-04-14.00.log.html | 14:53 |
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| jungleboyj | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 4 16:00:29 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| Swanson | hello. | 16:00 |
| bswartz | .o/ | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | o/ | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 16:00 |
| ganso | hello | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | Courtesy ping: jungleboyj DuncanT diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne gouthamr thingee erlon patrickeast tommylikehu eharney geguileo smcginnis lhx_ lhx__ | 16:00 |
| geguileo | hi! o/ | 16:01 |
| erlon | hey | 16:01 |
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| patrickeast | Hi | 16:01 |
| eharney | hi | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | Give people a minute to gather. | 16:01 |
| * DuncanT wakes up | 16:01 | |
| e0ne | hi | 16:01 |
| tbarron | hi | 16:01 |
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| * jungleboyj hands a RedBull to DuncanT | 16:01 | |
| DuncanT | Cheers | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:01 |
| * bswartz hands a Four Loko to jungleboyj | 16:02 | |
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| smcginnis | DuncanT: Wake up? Isn't it a little late there? | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | bswartz: A little early on a work day for that. :-) | 16:03 |
| e0ne | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-queens-meeting-agendas | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | Malt Liquor! | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, I am guessing we can get started. | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Announcements | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:03 | |
| jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | I spent time on Friday and Monday going through Specs. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | I have gotten the ones I can get approved into the review tracking etherpad. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | If you have comments outstanding, appreciate attention to those so we can continue to make progress getting the work for Queens defined. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | If you have patches for specs that are in there appreciate help getting those documented. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | I have also gotten our release schedule officially posted out on the Queens release schedule page. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | So, if you need to know the important dates, etc, please see that page. | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Check/Gate Status | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Check/Gate Status (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:06 | |
| * jungleboyj start crying | 16:06 | |
| e0ne | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ | 16:06 |
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| jungleboyj | e0ne: Thanks for being my link master. ;-) | 16:07 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: :) | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | So, we were seeing many jobs failing on a volume revert test. | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508541 | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | Keep hitting various issues trying to get it merged. | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | I am continuing to try to get that patch through. | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | Then a number of patches will need to be rechecked . | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | Spec jobs were broken. Thanks to smcginnis for fixing them. | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://review.openstack.org/509427 | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | That patch should have us back on track. | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | For those that haven't monitored the whole process we now have the new ZuulV3 running non-voting (reports as Zuul) and Jenkins is back in place as the voting job. | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123049.html | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | Basically zuul is like a third party CI for now until they fix it. | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | That is the mailing list thread on the state of things. | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | I am keeping a list of things that I would like to +W and will do so once things stabilize. | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | So, I think that is all I have on that. | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks to everyone for their patience and support right now. | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | This has been painful for sure. | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Indeed. | 16:12 |
| Swanson | zuul never broke under the old PTL. | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | Hah! | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | #topic LVM thin provisioning errors | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "LVM thin provisioning errors (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:12 | |
| bswartz | lol | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | Swanson: :-p | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | I know, I have ruined it for everyone! | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Take it away. | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | So I wanted to mention the LVM errors. | 16:13 |
| erlon | haha | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | I'm pretty sure this is due to switching devstack to go to "auto" which results in using thin provisioned volumes. | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | We had done this once before and had some errors, so the devstack change ended up getting reverted to go back to thick. | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | I don't think that's the right answer though. | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | We need to figure out the thin provisioning errors and fix them. | 16:14 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: do we have any steps to reproduce it? | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | The errors look like this: | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | #link http://logs.openstack.org/09/508209/5/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/44aa0eb/logs/screen-c-vol.txt.gz#_Oct_04_13_03_10_481121 | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: That's the hard part. Locally I set up a test to loop trying to repro it and never did. | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | So it's not all the time at least. | 16:15 |
| * diablo_rojo_phon sneaks in late | 16:15 | |
| smcginnis | Just need to find the specific conditions that trigger it. | 16:15 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: the same for me. I tried to reproduce similar issue in the past | 16:15 |
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| eharney | it's probably race conditions related to the activation calls, may need to beat on things to trigger it | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | eharney: That was kind of my hunch, but surprised retries didn't fix it. | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | There was also an os-brick change I think. Let me see if I can find that. | 16:16 |
| eharney | i can't remember when the cascade delete tests turned on, that may be "helping" it fail too | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | I thought this might fix it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505601/ | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505601/ | 16:17 |
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| smcginnis | Well, just raising it for awareness. I'll try to bang on it a little more. | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | Good to hear you've tried as well e0ne. | 16:18 |
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| jungleboyj | #action smcginnis to continue to try to recreate and debug. | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | I think if we can't fix it, if we go back to thick we should probably state thin is unsupported. | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | *isn't | 16:19 |
| Swanson | *is | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | Hah, yep. Distracted I guess. | 16:19 |
| eharney | we need to sort out the differences between how activation works on thick and thin to get a handle on what's happening there, i think | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | I'd like it to be isn't unsupported. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | So we would state is unsupported or wouldn't? | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, if anyone here is an "LVM expert", nows the time to show off. :) | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Only if we are forced to go back to thick. | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: That's really all. | 16:20 |
| eharney | doing the same tests on centos instead of xenial would be interesting, too | 16:21 |
| Swanson | Turn on jgriffith signal! | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | :-) Yeah, was kind of hoping he would say something there. | 16:21 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Haha yeah where is jgriffith? | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | I have started looking at some of that LVM code but am not an expert at all. | 16:21 |
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| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo_phon: Not sure, he hasn't been able to make it to this meeting as often. | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Anything else on that topic? | 16:22 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Probably dealing with customers? | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | Nope, that's it for now. | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Cool. Thanks. | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Open Discussion | 16:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:23 | |
| jungleboyj | Anyone else have topics for today? | 16:23 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Who all is going to Sydney? Are we collecting a list yet? | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | I will be there. smcginnis will . | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | I haven't started a list yet. | 16:24 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Also, is there a list somewhere of all the Cinder related forum topics? | 16:24 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Might be another good list to create :) | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | We had the brainstorming one, but I don't think we ended up with any Cinder-specific forum sessions. | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo_phon: I had an etherpad for that that I put together a few weeks ago and no one responded. | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | I have a cross project session with nova scheduled. | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | Oh right. | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | I also proposed doing office hours for people to stop in if they had questions and concerns. | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | Not sure if those have both been approved. | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: We had those two. | 16:26 |
| Swanson | smcginnis, practice up on Knifey Spoony before you go to Sydney. | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | Then there is the on-boarding room. Would like to get as many people as we can from the team there for that. | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | Will have more info on that as we get closer. | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | I can start an etherpad with Cinder Related Summit info and send the link out. | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Cool, we can collect names there too of attendees. | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:27 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Oh yeah that would be good. All in one place. | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | #action jungleboyj to put together a Cinder Sydney Summit etherpad for relevant information and attendance recording | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | Anything else we need to discuss? | 16:29 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | jungleboyj: will be sending out on boarding info to the dev list Thursday so look for that | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo_phon: Great. Thank you. | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo_phon: Are they going to be recorded this time? | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | I take it we have nothing else to discuss today then? | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | Nothing from me. | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Please work on getting specs in if you had ToDo's coming out of the PTG. | 16:32 |
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| jungleboyj | Appreciate all the help we can get getting patches through with the current state of the world. | 16:32 |
| e0ne | see you next week | 16:32 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | jungleboyj: not sure it's in the budget but there will be projection | 16:32 |
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| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo_phon: Ok. May need to do our own thing there then. | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, thanks for your work team. Talk to you all next week! | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | #endmeeting | 16:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:33 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 4 16:33:36 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:33 |
| gouthamr | \o | 16:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-10-04-16.00.html | 16:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-10-04-16.00.txt | 16:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-10-04-16.00.log.html | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 16:33 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj (ஐ╹◡╹)ノ | 16:33 |
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| jgriffit1 | o/ | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffit1: You are late to the party! | 16:35 |
| jgriffit1 | doh | 16:36 |
| jgriffit1 | an I'm not myself apparantly :) | 16:36 |
| DuncanT | There's beer left, but it's warm and flat | 16:36 |
| jungleboyj | No you aren't | 16:36 |
| * jungleboyj is sad | 16:36 | |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 4 17:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 17:00 |
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| johnsom | Hi folks! | 17:00 |
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| johnsom | Another fine day in OpenStack land... | 17:00 |
| jniesz | Hi | 17:01 |
| longstaff | Hi | 17:01 |
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| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 17:01 | |
| xgerman_ | o/ | 17:01 |
| tongl | hi | 17:01 |
| johnsom | In case you missed the fun, Infra enabled Zuul V3 for a few days but it did not go well. | 17:01 |
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| johnsom | I think the issues for use were minor or solvable, but some other teams had bigger problems. | 17:02 |
| johnsom | So, they have now reverted back to Zuul v2 so that teams can get patches merging again. | 17:02 |
| johnsom | So, back to the old normal for now. The gates should be passing again. | 17:03 |
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| johnsom | If you see anything questionable, post in the channel and we can take a look/help | 17:03 |
| tongl | It seems they will rolling-forward again to v3 in a few weeks. | 17:03 |
| tongl | hope in that time, it will be more stable | 17:03 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I know they are going to give it another go, just not sure when | 17:03 |
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| johnsom | Also of note, the OpenStack newton release is going EOL. | 17:04 |
| johnsom | Technically it would be this week, but given the issues it has been slightly delayed to 10/18. | 17:04 |
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| johnsom | I plan to check today if we need to cut one last release for backports and/or clean out any proposed patches against stable/newton. | 17:05 |
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| johnsom | Any other announcements / questions about that stuff? | 17:05 |
| johnsom | #topic Meeting time revisit | 17:06 |
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| johnsom | #link https://doodle.com/poll/p65x9xxkec52ecaw | 17:06 |
| tongl | it is a tie | 17:07 |
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| johnsom | So, this time slot does not work for some active octavia contributors. I put up another doodle so we could have another round of voting | 17:07 |
| johnsom | Only two timeslots were proposed and yes, it came out to a tie. | 17:08 |
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| xgerman_ | mmh, coin-flip? | 17:09 |
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| johnsom | Well, the later time means a core can make it and I think two of the folks that can only make the earlier meeting time are going to transition off octavia. | 17:10 |
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| jniesz | yes, we can go with the later time | 17:11 |
| johnsom | So that makes me lean towards adopting the later time slot. | 17:11 |
| johnsom | Thoughts / comments? | 17:11 |
| johnsom | This is so hard as we have people all over the world working on the project, which is a good thing, but... | 17:11 |
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| xgerman_ | we can always go crazy and do one week late and the other early… | 17:12 |
| johnsom | We could also consider alternating times, but I tend to not like it as it really splits the team and makes decisions / votes hard. | 17:12 |
| xgerman_ | yeah, when Neutron did that it always confused me | 17:13 |
| johnsom | Yeah, me too, I end up missing some of those. | 17:13 |
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| johnsom | We are usually around in the channel in the mornings, so we also kind of have office hours covering those time slots. | 17:14 |
| xgerman_ | +1 | 17:14 |
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| johnsom | Unless I hear more discussion/comments I think I will break the tie and work towards setting up the later time slot. | 17:15 |
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| tongl | +1 for latter | 17:15 |
| jniesz | +1 | 17:15 |
| johnsom | I will also move the meeting to our channel to make it easier to get meeting bot | 17:15 |
| longstaff | +1 | 17:15 |
| johnsom | Ok | 17:16 |
| johnsom | #agreed Breaking the meeting time tie to select the later time. | 17:16 |
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| johnsom | I will do the leg work and send out an e-mail to the dev list | 17:16 |
| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 17:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / bugs needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 17:17 | |
| johnsom | How are things going? I know I took some time during the Zuul outage to do a bit of performance investigation in addition to reviews. | 17:17 |
| jniesz | I am interested in updates regarding provider spec, as that is required for our flavor implementation | 17:18 |
| johnsom | My lowly workstation under vmware workstation could do ~10,000 connections per second in HTTP mode. | 17:18 |
| johnsom | It was CPU bound. I think the NIC driver was a contributing factor as well as conntrack on the host. | 17:18 |
| johnsom | longstaff Do you have an update on the provider spec? I know you folks have started work on it as I have answered some questions. | 17:19 |
| johnsom | It would be nice to get a draft posted | 17:19 |
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| longstaff | We are making good progress and plan to have the initiall draft posted later tomorrow | 17:20 |
| johnsom | Nice | 17:20 |
| johnsom | Any areas we should discuss? | 17:20 |
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| longstaff | Not at this point -- we're still reviewing a few things interanlly | 17:21 |
| johnsom | Ok | 17:21 |
| johnsom | FYI, I plan to pivot to working on the act/act patches. I started that yesterday. | 17:21 |
| johnsom | Any other progress updates / patches to discuss? | 17:22 |
| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 17:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 17:22 | |
| johnsom | Ok, how about other topics for the day? | 17:22 |
| johnsom | Well, ok. I will give you back some time for patch reviews. | 17:23 |
| johnsom | Thanks folks | 17:24 |
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| johnsom | #endmeeting | 17:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:24 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 4 17:24:22 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-10-04-17.00.html | 17:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-10-04-17.00.txt | 17:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-10-04-17.00.log.html | 17:24 |
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| bh526r | #startmeeting gluon | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 4 18:01:58 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 18:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'gluon' | 18:02 |
| bh526r | #topic Roll Call | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 18:02 | |
| bh526r | #info Bin Hu | 18:02 |
| jinli | #info JinLi | 18:02 |
| jinli | Hi Bin | 18:02 |
| bh526r | Hi Jin | 18:02 |
| krenczewski | #info Kamil Renczewski | 18:02 |
| jinli | Hi Kamil | 18:02 |
| krenczewski | Hi Bin and Jin | 18:02 |
| bh526r | Hi Kamil | 18:02 |
| bh526r | #topic Gluon Queens Release | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gluon Queens Release (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 18:03 | |
| bh526r | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gluon/Tasks-Queens | 18:03 |
| bh526r | #info Jin has submitted a patch "Fix hard coded service_name and version_number in backend" | 18:03 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509017/ | 18:04 |
| bh526r | Jin, can you briefly introduce it? | 18:04 |
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| jinli | sure, | 18:04 |
| jinli | basically the code will go to read the yaml for each service | 18:04 |
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| bh526r | Good. | 18:05 |
| jinli | and then | 18:05 |
| jinli | use the info from the yaml file and dynamically generate the serivce name and version number | 18:06 |
| bh526r | great | 18:06 |
| jinli | Bin I will need to meet with you to discuss about | 18:06 |
| jinli | generating the binding | 18:06 |
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| bh526r | I think it is more than binding. | 18:06 |
| jinli | I have comment in my code for that | 18:06 |
| jinli | ok | 18:07 |
| jinli | let's meet after this meeting | 18:07 |
| bh526r | I just added my comment in reviews | 18:07 |
| jinli | I will schedule one if you have time | 18:07 |
| bh526r | sure | 18:07 |
| jinli | great | 18:07 |
| bh526r | #info More reviews are expected | 18:08 |
| bh526r | I see Ian joined the IRC | 18:08 |
| bh526r | @ijw | 18:08 |
| ijw | yo | 18:09 |
| bh526r | Glad to see you here | 18:09 |
| bh526r | How is it going? | 18:09 |
| ijw | Good, thanks | 18:09 |
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| bh526r | Did you get a chance to look into experimenting service plugin? | 18:10 |
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| bh526r | Ok, I know you are busy and need more time :) | 18:12 |
| bh526r | nothing else from my side | 18:12 |
| bh526r | anyone else has any update? | 18:12 |
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| krenczewski | I think I am good | 18:13 |
| jinli | I will schedule a meeting at 11:30 | 18:13 |
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| bh526r | Great. | 18:13 |
| bh526r | If nothing else, let's adjourn the meeting, and Jin and I will review the patch together | 18:14 |
| bh526r | #info No further update | 18:14 |
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| bh526r | #info Meeting adjourned | 18:14 |
| bh526r | #endmeeting | 18:14 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 4 18:14:28 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:14 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-10-04-18.01.html | 18:14 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-10-04-18.01.txt | 18:14 |
| krenczewski | Great, Bye | 18:14 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-10-04-18.01.log.html | 18:14 |
| bh526r | Thank you everyone, and bye all | 18:14 |
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| Zara | time for the storyboard meeting! gather round! | 19:00 |
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| Zara | #startmeeting storyboard | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 4 19:01:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Zara. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 19:01 |
| Zara | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 19:01 | |
| Zara | NONE THAT I KNOW OF | 19:01 |
| Zara | #topic Urgent Items | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Urgent Items (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 19:01 | |
| Zara | ALSO NONE | 19:01 |
| Zara | #topic In-progress work | 19:01 |
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| SotK | hi there | 19:01 |
| Zara | oops I'm behind the bot | 19:01 |
| Zara | okay I believe there are a few things in progess | 19:01 |
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| Zara | (as mentioned in #storyboard, my dinner just finished cooking so apologies for delays on my end) | 19:03 |
| Zara | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437469/ should be ready to go and just needs alllll the rechecks | 19:04 |
| fungi | eh | 19:04 |
| fungi | heh | 19:04 |
| SotK | yeah, we really need to fix our tests | 19:04 |
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| Zara | to that end I have just rechecked it | 19:04 |
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| Zara | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502509/ has been +workflowed this afternoon (thanks diablo_rojo and sotk) | 19:05 |
| Zara | so hopefully that'll go in soon | 19:05 |
| Zara | oh I should say what those are | 19:05 |
| Zara | first one is the patch to handle branches other than master when migrating stories from launchpad to storyboard | 19:05 |
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| Zara | second is docs for how to do a test migration of things from launchpad to storyboard | 19:06 |
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| Zara | also, johnsom has sent https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506812/ to add to the docs, which we should take a look at | 19:06 |
| fungi | i'll check it out. if you have any other pending docs changes, lmk | 19:07 |
| fungi | i merged this one earlier today when persia pointed it out: | 19:07 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/368797 Update StoryBoard Docs | 19:07 |
| Zara | thanks | 19:07 |
| Zara | haha yeah that one got stuck for so long that I forgot it hadn't been merged ^^' | 19:07 |
| * SotK has looked at it and thinks he agrees with persia's comment, I just haven't replied on Gerrit yet apparently | 19:07 | |
| Zara | very pleased it's not in there! | 19:07 |
| persia | I only mentioned it because Zara mentioned it in #storyboard | 19:07 |
| fungi | heh | 19:08 |
| fungi | clearly i don't pay enough attention in #storyboard | 19:08 |
| fungi | oh, related to migration and documenting, there's a new thread on the -dev ml in the past 24 hours | 19:08 |
| fungi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123066.html Should New Projects Be Using Storyboard? | 19:08 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I replied with a resounding yes. | 19:09 |
| Zara | +5 | 19:09 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | People apparently still don't know it's a thing. | 19:09 |
| SotK | thanks diablo_rojo_phon :) | 19:09 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Stephens reply made me a little sad, so I guess there is still work to be done. | 19:10 |
| fungi | thingee is working on standing up a new project and has sort of been dry-running the new project walkthrough for us | 19:10 |
| fungi | which is basically why he started that thread | 19:10 |
| Zara | it's a good way to catch the missing things | 19:11 |
| thingee | yeah, I'm currently trying to figure out what are these various gate jobs. | 19:11 |
| Zara | I wasn't aware of the cookiecutter issue until yesterday | 19:11 |
| fungi | thingee: just in time for us to change them all on you! ;) | 19:12 |
| Zara | steadily, we'll catch 'em all :) | 19:13 |
| Zara | other in-progress things... | 19:14 |
| thingee | I was going to be fancy with my new project and put in a .zuul.yml file but I couldn't figure out what jobs to put in based on the documentation given https://docs.openstack.org/infra/openstack-zuul-jobs/ | 19:14 |
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| Zara | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504525/ is a fix to get our test infra up to date, though the fix itself isn't passing the tests yet so we should take a look at why | 19:15 |
| Zara | thanks mtreinish for the work so far on that! | 19:15 |
| Zara | sounds like a question for infra re: the .zuul.yml ? | 19:17 |
| Zara | any other in-progress work I'm unaware of? | 19:21 |
| * SotK can't think of anything else in-progress, I've still not found time to look at template link things yet | 19:21 | |
| SotK | soon! | 19:21 |
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| Zara | well I can't talk; I got distracted for 4 minutes in this very meeting by noodles | 19:22 |
| Zara | #topic Open Discussion | 19:22 |
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| Zara | discuss away; if none, I'll end the meeting in about 5m | 19:22 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | I reached out to i18n because I saw then discussing Storyboard so I'll keep you updated on all of that as I talk to them. | 19:26 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Don't remember if we have tested them yet but I figured starting the convo couldn't hurt. | 19:27 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | There was another project ... Don't remember who.. late the other night having a meeting that mentioned storyboard tha I butted into as well. | 19:28 |
| SotK | I don't think I've tested i18n yet, idk about Zara though | 19:28 |
| Zara | I haven't tested anything recently but the story about lp migrations should say | 19:29 |
| Zara | if I did then it was a while ago | 19:29 |
| fungi | diablo_rojo_phon: you must have a keyword highlight in your irc client ;) | 19:29 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | I do :) | 19:31 |
| * SotK should probably re-add his storyboard highlight to this irc client | 19:32 | |
| Zara | I don't have one but I have a sixth-sense for all discussion about storyboard | 19:33 |
| Zara | bit of a weird ability | 19:34 |
| Zara | if there's nothing else I'll end this meeting; sounds like we're done | 19:34 |
| * SotK has nothing, thanks for chairing! | 19:35 | |
| Zara | if someone wants us to test il8n, come to #storyboard and ask away! :) | 19:35 |
| Zara | thanks everyone! :) | 19:35 |
| Zara | #endmeeting storyboard | 19:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 4 19:35:30 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-10-04-19.01.html | 19:35 |
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| ekhugen | #startmeeting wos_mentoring | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 4 20:00:50 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekhugen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
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| ekhugen | Hi who’s here for the women of openstack mentoring team meeting? | 20:01 |
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| ekhugen | anyone for the mentoring team meeting? otherwise I’ll close it out in a few minutes | 20:07 |
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| ekhugen | #endmeeting | 20:21 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 4 20:21:48 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:21 |
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| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 4 21:00:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
| notmyname | who's here for the swift meeting? | 21:00 |
| m_kazuhiro | o/ | 21:00 |
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| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:00 |
| timburke | o/ | 21:01 |
| kota_ | hello | 21:01 |
| rledisez | hi o/ | 21:01 |
| notmyname | waiting for a couple of more people (hopefully) | 21:02 |
| notmyname | agenda is at | 21:02 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:02 |
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| jungleboyj | o? | 21:03 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 21:03 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj (。･д･)ﾉﾞ | 21:03 |
| notmyname | hmm... I thought clayg and torgomatic would be here | 21:03 |
| notmyname | and acoles | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | there's acoles! | 21:04 |
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| acoles | hey! sorry I am late | 21:04 |
| notmyname | the 0700 meeting notes are at | 21:04 |
| notmyname | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-10-04-07.01.log.html | 21:04 |
| notmyname | ok... let's get started | 21:04 |
| notmyname | there's a few things to go over | 21:05 |
| notmyname | without spending time discussing it in here, please continue to triage bugs | 21:05 |
| notmyname | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-bug-triage-list | 21:05 |
| notmyname | the list is getting shorter :-) | 21:05 |
| notmyname | #topic s3api status | 21:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "s3api status (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:05 | |
| notmyname | I'd like to briefly get an update on swift3 and the s3api feature branch | 21:06 |
| notmyname | ( kota_ ) | 21:06 |
| kota_ | yup | 21:06 |
| notmyname | my understanding is that you were planning for a swift3 release sometime soon, right? | 21:06 |
| notmyname | and after than, a migration patch would land on the s3api branhc? | 21:06 |
| kota_ | I reviewed 4 patches on the top of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/s3api-middleware | 21:06 |
| notmyname | where are we with those items? | 21:07 |
| kota_ | I'd like to get in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331291/ to the release, others don't have to be in. | 21:07 |
| patchbot | patch 331291 - swift3 - Don't try to read a body if the client didn't send... | 21:07 |
| kota_ | (nice to have, though) | 21:07 |
| kota_ | timburke: here? | 21:08 |
| timburke | and i need to go address some of those review comments... | 21:08 |
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| notmyname | ok | 21:08 |
| kota_ | thanks timburke | 21:08 |
| clayg | oh, this... | 21:08 |
| clayg | what'd I miss? | 21:08 |
| kota_ | and also i'd like to get timburke's comments for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504479/ | 21:09 |
| patchbot | patch 504479 - swift3 - Change log updates for version 1.12 | 21:09 |
| notmyname | clayg: talking about s3api | 21:09 |
| kota_ | that's the final pieces for the release | 21:09 |
| notmyname | kota_: do you think the plan is still good? release swift3, put code ont eh s3api feature branch, make the non-compat changes we want, then merge s3api to master | 21:09 |
| kota_ | after the release, I'll prepare the migration to the feature branch | 21:09 |
| kota_ | yup | 21:10 |
| notmyname | great | 21:10 |
| notmyname | any questions from anyone else about this process or what's going on? | 21:10 |
| clayg | notmyname: timburke just fixed a really sneaky coupling issue with swift3 and swift that really would have benifited (and maybe even been avoided!?) with s3 api compat *in-tree* (patch 509594) | 21:10 |
| kota_ | I'm thinking swift3 will be in soft-freeze mode while migration time. | 21:10 |
| notmyname | kota_: makes sense | 21:10 |
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| notmyname | patch 509594 | 21:11 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509594/ - swift - Stop clearing params for account_autocreate responses | 21:11 |
| torgomatic | whoops, sorry I'm late | 21:11 |
| notmyname | ah, right. he mentioned it | 21:11 |
| clayg | so I'd just like to point how what a great idea this is, and how kota_ and timburke are awesome and we welcome their new dictatorship over all things s3 api compat | 21:11 |
| notmyname | and yep. I'm excited about having it in tree | 21:11 |
| notmyname | heh | 21:11 |
| kota_ | timburke: how do you think of brand-new patches for swift3? I saw a few patches you pushed in this week? | 21:11 |
| notmyname | the "read between the lines" part is "don't ask clayg about s3 compat" ? ;-) | 21:11 |
| clayg | baby steps | 21:12 |
| timburke | kota_: i'm fine with it for upstream i suppose. but i also know that i'll more than likely have to do my own release for my company before the migration is done | 21:13 |
| notmyname | it's also important to note that we shouldn't freeze swift3 and then never merge down the s3api feature branch. that would be bad | 21:13 |
| notmyname | (meaning whip-cracking and encouragement to help out, when we get to that point) | 21:13 |
| timburke | indeed it would. my releases would jsut continue to diverge and no one would be happy :P | 21:14 |
| notmyname | we don't want people to be sad | 21:14 |
| kota_ | alright | 21:14 |
| notmyname | kota_: you good? anything else to bring up on this topic? | 21:14 |
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| kota_ | depends on the number of patches and size | 21:14 |
| kota_ | their size | 21:15 |
| notmyname | #topic container sharding | 21:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "container sharding (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:15 | |
| notmyname | acoles: timburke: mattoliverau: what's the update on feature/deep? | 21:15 |
| notmyname | where do we stand? is the plan working? what do you need? | 21:16 |
| acoles | IMHO we're making good progress, particularly adding test coverage | 21:16 |
| mattoliverau | so far the plan is going great guns. timburke and acoles have done awesome | 21:16 |
| acoles | e.g. timburke has given us some probe tests | 21:16 |
| acoles | feature/deep is a great place to be hanging out | 21:17 |
| acoles | we need more timburke's | 21:17 |
| acoles | :) | 21:17 |
| timburke | stuff moves so fast! at least, when the gat's not busted ;-) | 21:17 |
| notmyname | heh | 21:17 |
| timburke | gate* | 21:17 |
| acoles | oh yeah and a working gate | 21:17 |
| mattoliverau | Done some really great cleanup, code is much cleaner. | 21:17 |
| notmyname | hmm... swift is used to store genomes. wonder if we can clone timburke. in lieu of that, what do you need? | 21:17 |
| mattoliverau | Tests coverage it covering and uncovered some interesting edge cases | 21:18 |
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| clayg | i love it when writing tests finds bugs! feels *so* good! | 21:18 |
| acoles | notmyname: we've been working through some of the functional elements, cleaning up and adding tests, flushing out bugs and | 21:18 |
| acoles | oh that all got said... thanks mattoliverau | 21:18 |
| mattoliverau | Lol | 21:18 |
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| notmyname | #link https://trello.com/b/z6oKKI4Q/container-sharding | 21:19 |
| notmyname | *lots* of stories there | 21:19 |
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| acoles | if anyone wants to get involved there are some easy tasks to pick up on trello, particularly if you don't mind writing unit tests ... and who doesn't ;) | 21:19 |
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| notmyname | acoles: how would one find those on trello? | 21:20 |
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| acoles | umm, search for unit test in the Backlog column, or ask me | 21:20 |
| acoles | notmyname: (I know, a better answer would be 'low hanging fruit tag') | 21:21 |
| notmyname | ok :-) | 21:21 |
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| notmyname | anything else to bring up or discuss in the meeting related to container sharding? | 21:22 |
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| mattoliverau | We also have a questions column so if something arises or something is not understand feel free to ask there | 21:22 |
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| mattoliverau | Understood.. | 21:22 |
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| mattoliverau | Apparently English is my native language and I still can't English | 21:22 |
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| * notmyname waits for the acoles comment... | 21:23 | |
| acoles | que? | 21:23 |
| notmyname | #topic undeletes! (the best kind of deletes) | 21:23 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "undeletes! (the best kind of deletes) (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:23 | |
| notmyname | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507808/ | 21:23 |
| patchbot | patch 507808 - swift - Add ability to undelete an account. | 21:23 |
| notmyname | this patch has been up for a while | 21:23 |
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| notmyname | (looks like the author is someone on a team using a common email?) | 21:23 |
| clayg | oh, rledisez looked at it!? that's... *amazing* | 21:23 |
| notmyname | but it's a totally great feature that swift has never actually implemented despite having "someday we'll do this..." in our docs for 7+ years | 21:24 |
| clayg | yeah it's weird they're doing that? it really depersonalizes it for me.. | 21:24 |
| notmyname | oh, the "owner"? | 21:25 |
| clayg | notmyname: yeah i'd really like to engage and be like "we haven't been putting this off because we're lazy, it's like acctually sorta non-trivial as I'm sure you know from having to write a patch spanning 4 different modules ..." | 21:25 |
| notmyname | does anyone know who the actual author is? even better, their irc nick? | 21:25 |
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| acoles | the patch looks very similar to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445160 so I am interested to know if it the same author | 21:26 |
| patchbot | patch 445160 - swift - Un-delete accounts that were previously marked as ... | 21:26 |
| clayg | I mean... there's not enough tests - the whole thing could probably *really* use a probe test - if we start reviewing this stuff will come up - we'll either have to fix it and push back - and if we push back they'll need to know it's all with love | 21:26 |
| clayg | notmyname: here here! we need to get them on irc? | 21:27 |
| notmyname | their website says, "Who are we? A global conglomerate--adding value to people's lives". so that's not super helpful | 21:27 |
| acoles | oxymoron | 21:27 |
| clayg | rofl | 21:27 |
| rledisez | it may be not the same author, but the current patch seems at least inspired by the previous patch and its comments | 21:27 |
| notmyname | ok, I'll leave a note in gerrit asking for them to identify themselves on irc if possible | 21:27 |
| clayg | ok, so maybe this isn't "the moment" - but that's sad because yeah, it'd be great to have some help and this seems useful | 21:28 |
| acoles | is Adam Thurlow ... thurloat maybe? looks like it | 21:28 |
| notmyname | rledisez: seems that you most recently looked at it... is there something specific we need to do or encourange them to do? what will it take to merge it? | 21:28 |
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| notmyname | acoles: yes | 21:28 |
| acoles | I wonder if we should be reviewing the original patch? | 21:28 |
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| rledisez | notmyname: to me, it looks quite good and simple. i'm concerned by unattended behavior for users, so i think some point need to be claried on the "workflow" | 21:29 |
| rledisez | when can i undeleted, when can't i, ... | 21:29 |
| notmyname | rledisez: docs concerns? or actual design concerns? | 21:29 |
| rledisez | design concerns for now. like you can undeleted an account that is currently being reaped. don't look good to me | 21:29 |
| mattoliverau | And Donagh reviewed it too | 21:29 |
| notmyname | yeah. the fact that both donagh and rledisez looked at it is fantastic :-) | 21:30 |
| mattoliverau | +100 | 21:30 |
| notmyname | clayg: you brought up this patch (thanks!). is there something else specifically you wanted to address on it, other that what we just did? | 21:30 |
| clayg | i think we're good | 21:31 |
| notmyname | kk | 21:31 |
| notmyname | #topic PUT+POST^N | 21:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PUT+POST^N (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:31 | |
| notmyname | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427911/ | 21:31 |
| clayg | there's a meta discussion about bring new people "into the fold" - but it's probably all depending on the situation | 21:31 |
| patchbot | patch 427911 - swift - PUT+POST and its development test | 21:31 |
| notmyname | pete's patch that unblocks the future | 21:32 |
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| notmyname | ...and he's not in here | 21:32 |
| clayg | I guess on this one I had *intended* to maybe glance at it before today incase I had any high level questions for zaitcev | 21:32 |
| clayg | but yeah... guess that doesn't matter | 21:32 |
| clayg | so last bit of info was I plan to look at it soonish (friday?) | 21:32 |
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| clayg | torgomatic: are you talking to zaitcev about this patch? something with keeping diskfilewriter around? | 21:33 |
| clayg | is there a pre-req patch I should review instead? | 21:33 |
| notmyname | as a reminder, this patch restores "real" http to the proxy<->object protocol, and that will unblock us from moving forward with various plans to remove eventlet from the object server | 21:33 |
| torgomatic | clayg: I sent him a link to some stuff I wrote, but that's about all I've got time for today :( | 21:33 |
| clayg | i'm interested in this body of work - decoupling ourselves from eventlet in the object server so *so* key | 21:33 |
| clayg | cc rledisez ya boy needs this patch too | 21:33 |
| rledisez | clayg: totally! | 21:34 |
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| notmyname | aside from clayg giving it a review and torgomatic chatting in IRC as he's able, what else needs to be done on this patch? | 21:36 |
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| clayg | i that's it for that one - well - we probably need one more person to be thinking they're going to review/understand the protocol change along the way at the end | 21:37 |
| * notmyname nods vigorously | 21:37 | |
| clayg | but that could mostly be torgomatic and I - I think tdasilva timburke and obviously zaitcev also have a good understand | 21:38 |
| clayg | notmyname: you too | 21:38 |
| clayg | so ... yeah - good for now! | 21:38 |
| notmyname | drat! you've caught me! | 21:38 |
| clayg | unless torgomatic and I drop the ball (more likely for me than him) | 21:38 |
| * mattoliverau would love to commit, but first need to convince $employer to let me spend more time on Swift. | 21:39 | |
| notmyname | #topic open discussion | 21:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:39 | |
| rledisez | it seems to me there's a lot of thing in that patch that is not directly related to PUT+POST (eg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427911/19/swift/common/wsgi.py ). is it on purpose? | 21:39 |
| patchbot | patch 427911 - swift - PUT+POST and its development test | 21:39 |
| notmyname | what else to bring up this week? | 21:39 |
| timburke | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509306/ adds a heartbeating mechanism to SLO that should let us get up towards S3's 10k part limit | 21:41 |
| patchbot | patch 509306 - swift - Let clients request heartbeats during SLO PUTs | 21:41 |
| notmyname | ah yes. thanks timburke | 21:41 |
| mattoliverau | timburke: cool | 21:41 |
| notmyname | yeah, that patch is significant because it lets a client opt in (right?) to a protocol change | 21:41 |
| clayg | rledisez: I guess step 1 would be to rip it out and see if tests still pass... step 2 would be to split it out or clean it up... | 21:42 |
| timburke | yup, client has to include a &heartbeat=on query param | 21:42 |
| notmyname | FWIW, it works the same way as swift's bulk upload and s3's multipart complete | 21:42 |
| kota_ | it sounds like similar with bulk delete? | 21:43 |
| timburke | yep. and bulk extract. and slo delete with ?multipart-manifest=delete | 21:43 |
| rledisez | timburke: the same on copy for big objects would be useful also. | 21:44 |
| clayg | @timburke i thought I read something in the commit message about some sort of 10 second timeout or something? | 21:44 |
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| clayg | does the client behavior *differ* depending on how slow the cluster is - or *only* depending on the request? | 21:44 |
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| clayg | like does heatbeat=on always yield the same status code - or it makes the status code variable depending on external factors? | 21:44 |
| timburke | at the moment, it depends on both. but a client needs to be able to eat early errors regardless, so a quick response vs a slow response seems not-unreasonable | 21:45 |
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| clayg | so client facing heartbeat=on docs - they say "if you include this param you might get a 2XX that means success or you might get a 2XX that means we're working on it" | 21:46 |
| notmyname | that's how it was explained to me | 21:47 |
| timburke | pretty sure i included the docs change. but yeah, 201 == success, 202 == working, read the body to know whether it was successful or not | 21:47 |
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| notmyname | apologies, but I've got an unexpected personal obligation thats' come up .... any last things to bring up in the meeting? | 21:48 |
| timburke | bah, my docs change makes it sound like we always send the 202. should fix that | 21:48 |
| notmyname | thank you for your awesome work on s3api, deep containers, and making swift generally better | 21:49 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 21:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 4 21:49:48 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-10-04-21.00.html | 21:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-10-04-21.00.txt | 21:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-10-04-21.00.log.html | 21:49 |
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