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eumel8hello13:01
ianychoi_phoneHello13:01
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eumel8hello ianychoi_phone :)13:01
jftaltaHi13:02
ianychoi_phoneHi eumel8!13:02
ianychoi_phonejftalta: hello!!13:02
jftaltaHow are you guys ? It's been a long time !13:02
eumel8who was jftalta?13:02
eumel8*g*13:02
jftalta;-)13:02
eumel8#startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting13:03
openstackMeeting started Thu Dec 21 13:03:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is eumel8. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:03
ianychoi_phoneHaha yep - ready for Christmas all? :)13:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:03
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting'13:03
eumel8yes, just back from shopping13:03
eumel8but the christmas tree is prepared ... more or less13:04
ianychoi_phone:)13:04
eumel8we had also long time no irc meeting13:04
eumel8let me check the agenda13:05
eumel8#topic Action items from last meeting13:05
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eumel8eumel8 inform infra-team about outstanding proposals and ask for help13:06
jftaltaany response from the team ?13:07
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eumel8we had a very good progress in the last weeks and the infra team was very helpful13:07
jftaltanice news13:07
ianychoi_phone+113:08
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eumel8nevertheless the proposal for the translation checksite isn't merged yet. There are some merge conflicts and I have to rebase it ... the second time13:08
ianychoi_phoneeumel8: just registering your ssh key seperately would be fine from my seeing :)13:09
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eumel8I know but the proposal is so old and it could be an option to merge this in one proposal13:10
eumel8but maybe I want to split them, indeed13:10
ianychoi_phoneeumel8: aha.. which proposal? Hmm maybe I lost some pointer on that13:11
eumel8#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487936/13:11
patchbotpatch 487936 - openstack-infra/system-config - Installation of i18n-checksite.openstack.org13:11
eumel8it's old but not historical ;)13:12
eumel8ianychoi_phone: btw, it would be nice if you are able to merge the I18n PTL guide #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525051/13:13
patchbotpatch 525051 - i18n - Add I18n PTL guide13:13
ianychoi_phoneThanks13:13
eumel8so the next PTL is well prepared :-))13:13
eumel8#action eumel8 contact TC for Project Doc Translation13:14
ianychoi_phoneOkay I will do the review soon - maybe today or tomorrow13:14
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eumel8this task is still open because I missed the office hours of the TC. It's maybe also a topic for the PTG in Dublin.13:14
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eumel8ianychoi_phone: thanks!13:15
ianychoi_phonenp :)13:15
eumel8#topic Zanata update translation server13:15
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eumel8as you know we're now running version 4 of zanata release on the translate-dev.o.o13:16
eumel8one issue was the error 404 redirect after openid login13:17
eumel8zanata guys prepared a fix very fast13:17
ianychoi_phoneYep!13:17
eumel8#link https://github.com/zanata/zanata-platform/releases13:17
eumel8#link http://docs.zanata.org/en/release/release-notes/#43313:17
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eumel8my first impression was, the problem is fixed, but after some more tests I experienced a redirect to a "no error" page instead the dashboard after login.13:19
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eumel8my first tests was on the 4.4 branch and with this version it worked correctly13:19
ianychoi_phoneHmm13:19
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eumel8I hadn't also so much time for tests in the last days13:20
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jftaltaI just logged in and I landed on a Zanata Sign Up new user page...13:20
eumel8it's on openid-dev server connected. this is still the next problem with some wrong entries in the database13:21
jftaltaok13:22
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eumel8I don't know how to fix it and how should I anyone explain how it fix it for us :)13:22
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eumel8maybe a new database would be the easiest way13:23
ianychoi_phoneI all shared it with Etherpad but more conversation is needed13:23
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ianychoi_phoneGood idea13:25
eumel8#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/translate-dev-openstackid-issues13:26
ianychoi_phoneUpdate: jamesmcarther commented13:27
jftaltait means that we will have to create new accounts, right ?13:27
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ianychoi_phoneSome issues on openstackid-dev need to be resolved..13:28
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eumel8jftalta: on the dev server, yes13:28
jftaltaof course13:29
eumel8ianychoi_phone: I'm not sure if I understand the comment right. There are no password syncs between zanata and openstackid server13:29
ianychoi_phoneeumel8: between openstackid-dev and openstackid?13:30
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eumel8ianychoi_phone: I don't know. I tried to register a new account and I'm redirected to a server with htaccess protection13:31
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ianychoi_phoneeumel8: it seems that openstackid developers prevented general users from registering through openstackid-dev13:32
eumel8ianychoi_phone: but you tested it in the past sucessful?13:33
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ianychoi_phoneeumel8: yes because at that time translate-dev used openstackid not openstackid-dev. Now translate-dev uses openstackid-dev13:34
eumel8ah!13:34
eumel8ianychoi_phone: we want to use openstackid or openstackid-dev?13:35
eumel8jftalta: could you follow the registration process on the dev server?13:36
jftaltasure13:36
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ianychoi_phoneI will ask the help to clarkb or fungi for changing the database table data to all use openstackid-dev, assuming that openstackid developers help openstackid-dev issues well. Currently, I am still not sure of such help.13:37
eumel8I'm on https://devbranch.openstack.org/join/register and there is the password protection13:37
jftaltaI get : username (jftalta) already taken, email (jftalta@gmail.com) already taken13:37
eumel8ianychoi_phone: "Find duplicated users on translate-dev.o.o using some database queries". I think this is not possible. On my test server I've created multiple accounts with my email address and who will puzzle the different accounts from the same person.13:38
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eumel8and there are contraints to other tables, so it's not too easy to manipulate the database13:39
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ianychoi_phoneeumel8: multiple accounts with the same email address? In translate-dev that would be impossible13:40
ianychoi_phoneunless changing openid13:40
ianychoi_phoneHmm...13:40
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ianychoi_phoneeumel8: do u configute openid for your test server?13:41
ianychoi_phones/configute/configure13:41
eumel8sure13:41
eumel8http://paste.openstack.org/show/sOaylEV4lKvO2jAuciA6/13:41
eumel8I tested both openid server13:42
ianychoi_phoneI thing using sql "group by" query should find such duplicated user id13:42
ianychoi_phones/thing/think13:43
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ianychoi_phoneeumel8: now I am inclined to erase and re-initialize the translate-dev database13:44
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eumel8ianychoi_phone: yes, because you didn't lost really data13:45
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ianychoi_phoneeumel8: +1 then would u request such thing to infra team?13:47
eumel8ianychoi_phone: and question again: we want to use openstackid or openstackid-dev? If the registration process will not work, then it makes no sense to use the openstackid-dev server13:47
eumel8ianychoi_phone: together with the next release installation13:47
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eumel8or is there a sync between both server? I don't unterstand the architecture behind that ;)13:48
ianychoi_phoneeumel8: openstackid-dev assuming that openstackid developers kindly help I18n team well13:48
ianychoi_phoneeumel8: ideal sync would be impossible but imo I18n team and openstackid developers can share some timing on such requests and if we request sync than they sync.13:50
eumel8ianychoi_phone: I only need username and password of the htaccess page ;)13:50
ianychoi_phoneToo frequent change between openstackid and openstackid-dev is so stressful..13:50
eumel8ianychoi_phone: if we sync then we don't need the openstackid-dev server. We use the live server and we're happy.13:51
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ianychoi_phoneeumel8: but openstackid developers need test13:52
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ianychoi_phoneeumel8: another idea would be to create one more server: like translate-beta13:52
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ianychoi_phonetranslate-dev for openstackid-dev and translate-beta for openstackid for the same new test version13:53
eumel8ianychoi_phone: yes, it's easy to install. I'm as a translator want only test translation and not openstackid processes.13:54
eumel8But install a new server is horrible. It takes months ;)13:54
eumel8let's move on the agenda...13:54
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eumel8#topic Restore Mitaka Documentation.13:55
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eumel8Restore of language pages like #link https://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/de/13:55
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eumel8documentation of previous releases were restored. If you want to create a landing page for your language, feel free.13:56
eumel8it must be a new index.html file in the directory with the release and the language name13:56
jftaltaSounds good. Mitaka is still widely used in production13:57
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jftaltaThis is the case at the french Home Ministry, for example13:57
eumel8jftalta: this includes also releases after that13:57
ianychoi_phoneGood13:57
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eumel8great, support the French Home Ministry ;)13:58
eumel8#topic PTG brainstorming13:58
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eumel8#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/dublin-i18n-PTG13:58
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eumel8if you like to join the PTG in Dublin there is still room for proposals13:58
eumel8ans we are together with the docs team, of course13:59
eumel8#topic Open Discussion13:59
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ianychoi_phoneI am far from Dublin but it would be nice if more European members like jftalta join in Dublin ptg13:59
eumel8sorry for the fast forward, but we are in the last minute14:00
ianychoi_phoneTime is up14:00
ianychoi_phoneThank u all and merry xmas!14:00
eumel8have a nice christmas and a happy new year.14:00
eumel8next week will be no meeting14:00
jftaltamerry xmas to !14:00
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ianychoi_phoneHappy new year jftalta and eumel8 !14:00
eumel8#endmeeting14:00
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mriedem#startmeeting nova21:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Dec 21 21:00:12 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)"21:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'21:00
edleafe\o21:00
mriedemhi, who is still lurking this time of year?21:00
takashino/21:00
melwitto/21:00
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mriedemalright well we can get started21:01
mriedem#link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting21:01
mriedem#topic release news21:01
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mriedem#link Queens release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Queens_Release_Schedule21:01
mriedem#info Jan 18: non-client library (oslo, os-vif, os-brick, os-win, os-traits, etc) release freeze21:01
mriedemso 4 weeks to get library stuff in21:01
mriedemreally 3 if you exclude next week21:02
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mriedemnot sure what we have pending for os-vif or os-traits at this time21:02
mriedem#info Jan 25: q-3 milestone, Feature Freeze, final python-novaclient release, requirements freeze, Soft String Freeze21:02
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mriedemso realistically 4 weeks from feature freeze21:02
mriedemand then we have 2 weeks for "stability"21:03
mriedembefore RC121:03
mriedem#info Blueprints: 52 targeted, 52 approved, 15 complete (2 completed since the last meeting)21:03
mriedemsteadily getting some blueprints completed21:03
mriedem#link queens blueprint tracking etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-queens-blueprint-status21:03
mriedemquestions about the release?21:03
mriedem#topic bugs21:03
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mriedemnothing critical21:03
mriedem#info 44 new untriaged bugs (up 12 since the last meeting)21:04
mriedemwe're falling behind on bug triage21:04
mriedem#help need help with bug triage21:04
mriedemgenerally some easy ones if you take some time to step through them21:04
mriedemhttps://goo.gl/ZBw1Zw21:04
mriedemgate status,21:05
mriedemi posted to the ML last night about a py27 failure i've seen in the mysql db migrations21:05
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mriedem#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/173951721:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1739517 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "TestNovaMigrationsMySQL randomly fails with "sqlalchemy.exc.ResourceClosedError: This result object does not return rows. It has been closed automatically."" [High,Confirmed]21:05
mriedemi don't really know what is causing that, and it is hitting on all branches, so it's not like a recent regression21:05
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mriedemi wonder if there was a mysql update in the images we're testing on21:05
mriedemotherwise i've been seeing quite a few random CI failures, reporting bugs and opening e-r queries21:06
mriedem#link http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/21:06
mriedeme-r seems to not be reporting on patches though21:06
mriedem3rd party CI status21:06
mriedem#info zKVM CI was made non-voting due to recurring failures21:07
mriedemdid that last week21:07
mriedemquestions about bugs?21:07
mriedem#topic stable branch status21:07
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mriedem#link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z21:07
mriedem#info Pike 16.0.4 released21:07
mriedem#link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z21:07
mriedem#link Ocata 15.1.0 release request: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529100/21:07
patchbotpatch 529100 - releases - nova: release ocata 15.1.021:07
mriedem#link stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton,n,z21:08
mriedem#link Newton 14.1.0 release request: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529102/21:08
patchbotpatch 529102 - releases - nova: release newton 14.1.021:08
mriedem^ will be newton-eol unless something else comes up21:08
mriedembut, we might just end up waiting until january at this point...21:08
mriedemwill need to talk with tonyb21:08
mriedemquestions about stable?21:08
mriedem#topic subteam highlights21:08
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mriedemthere was no cellsv2 meeting this week, or next week21:09
mriedembugs tracked in the wiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaCellsv2#Agenda21:09
mriedemedleafe: scheduler stuff?21:09
edleafeJust a quick meeting - just checking in on status of the different patch series21:09
mriedemthat it?21:09
mriedemalright21:09
mriedemnot sure what happened in the api meeting21:10
mriedemprobably same - talking about status of patches21:10
mriedemthere was no notification meeting this week, or next21:10
mriedemthere was a nova/cinder meeting today21:10
mriedemtwo things21:10
mriedem1. Working on multi-attach patches in nova: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/multi-attach-volume+status:open21:10
mriedem2. Need to get Tempest patch updated: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266605/21:10
patchbotpatch 266605 - tempest - Add a test for cinder multiattach21:10
mriedemand i guess,21:10
mriedem3. cinder multiattach spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523608/21:10
patchbotpatch 523608 - cinder-specs - Propose multi-attach using V3 Attachment API's21:10
mriedem^ is mostly about policy rules that will be added to cinder21:11
mriedemand how things are going to work with the volume types21:11
mriedem#topic stuck reviews21:11
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mriedemthere is nothing on the agenda21:11
mriedemanyone have something to mention here?21:11
mriedem#topic open discussion21:11
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mriedemi added one item21:11
mriedemShould we make an exception for this super trivial feature parity vmware blueprint change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448034/21:11
patchbotpatch 448034 - nova - VMware: add support for different firmwares21:11
mriedemi don't like making exceptions because then people think all blueprints can get exceptions,21:12
mriedembut this one is really really small21:12
mriedemso i'm inclined to say it's fine21:12
mriedemany other opinions?21:12
melwittif it's super small I'd agree21:12
mriedemalright, the ayes have it21:13
mriedemanyone else have something to talk about?21:13
mriedemnope; alright. i'm on vacation next week, back in january. hope everyone has a safe and happy whatever you'll be doing.21:13
mriedemo/21:14
mriedem#endmeeting21:14
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