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| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 02:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Dec 22 02:30:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: congressteammeeting)" | 02:30 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 02:30 |
| ekcs | hi all. topics here as usual. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 02:30 |
| ekcs | please read/comment/add your own topics =) | 02:31 |
| masahito | hi | 02:31 |
| ekcs | hi masahito ! | 02:31 |
| ekcs | how has it been? | 02:31 |
| masahito | good | 02:32 |
| ekcs | great. things are good here too. people starting to be on vacation in US. | 02:32 |
| ekcs | so let’s get started then. | 02:34 |
| ekcs | #topic congress rule engine library | 02:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "congress rule engine library (Meeting topic: congressteammeeting)" | 02:34 | |
| ekcs | it’s been an idea for a long time now to separate out the rule engine in congress as a separate library. | 02:35 |
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| ekcs | so that other projects can use it internally for evaluating datalog rules. | 02:35 |
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| ekcs | but never been high priority so haven’t been done. | 02:36 |
| ekcs | do you think it would be useful for people to have access to a library like that? | 02:36 |
| masahito | Do other projects want to use it? | 02:37 |
| ekcs | I had people who want to use it outside openstack before. but nothing specific right now. | 02:38 |
| ekcs | do you see places where it is helpful? | 02:38 |
| masahito | no | 02:39 |
| masahito | oops, sorry. I miss read places as people. | 02:40 |
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| ekcs | haha =) | 02:40 |
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| masahito | It could be useful if the policy engine is released in pypi. | 02:41 |
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| ekcs | i see. i’ve had people interested in using it, but then because it’s not available yet, it would take too much lead time to do and ultimately it’s abandoned. | 02:42 |
| ekcs | so maybe it’s helpful, but not sure how much of a priority huh? | 02:43 |
| masahito | yes. | 02:44 |
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| ekcs | ok. i wonder if it helps congress to do it. | 02:45 |
| ekcs | anyway I’ll think about it some more and identify specific kinds of applications for it outside of congress-server. do you have any ideas? | 02:46 |
| masahito | like RBAC? In Doctor project, I used the policy engine to map physical resources to virtual resources. | 02:49 |
| ekcs | I see. ok that’s helpful. thanks! | 02:50 |
| ekcs | well the only other thing I had in mind to talk about is tempest plugin. but ramineni isn’t here so no point talking about it now. | 02:51 |
| ekcs | anything else on your mind you wanna discuss? congress or other? | 02:51 |
| masahito | nothing from my side. | 02:52 |
| masahito | ah, will we have next meeting in next week? | 02:52 |
| ekcs | what do you think? should we? | 02:52 |
| ekcs | 12/29? | 02:53 |
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| masahito | I'm out of office in next two weeks. | 02:53 |
| ekcs | oh great! | 02:53 |
| ekcs | let’s cancel meeting then. last friday before new year =) | 02:54 |
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| ekcs | alright let’s end meeting then if nothing else to discuss now. | 02:56 |
| masahito | okay | 02:58 |
| ekcs | ok have a great time away! | 02:58 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 02:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 02:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Dec 22 02:59:00 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 02:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-12-22-02.30.html | 02:59 |
| masahito | have a great holiday! | 02:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-12-22-02.30.txt | 02:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-12-22-02.30.log.html | 02:59 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Dec 22 14:00:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 14:00 |
| yamamoto | hi | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | hi | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | nice to see you yamamoto | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | who else is here for the drivers meeting? | 14:00 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | good morning ihrachys :-) | 14:01 |
| ihrachys | indeed | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | you taking off next week? | 14:01 |
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| ihrachys | yeah we have a shutdown till Jan 2 | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | Enjoy! | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | how about you yamamoto? | 14:02 |
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| mlavalle | amotoki: ping | 14:02 |
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| yamamoto | i have no plan | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | ok, we have quorum of 3 so let's get going | 14:03 |
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| mlavalle | This is the list of RFEs that we have for today: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.tag=rfe | 14:04 |
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| mlavalle | But before getting to the list, I would like to bring up an issue from the CI team | 14:04 |
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| mlavalle | As you may know, we have moved our Tempest plugin to its own repo | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | and in the latest CI meeting it was asked whether we should consolidate all the stadium projects in the Neutron tempest plugin | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | indeed bcafarel has been asking the same question in regards to sfc | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | Thoughts? | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | yamamoto: midonet is a stadium projects. what do you think? | 14:07 |
| yamamoto | i guess it's fine for tests which can be run with other implementations | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | so you have your own tempest tests that only apply to midonet? | 14:08 |
| ihrachys | do you have tests that would not pass presuming the extensions needed are supported by an implementation? | 14:09 |
| yamamoto | no. it depends on extensions which currently only midonet provides, but it should be skipped for others fine. | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | where would you put those tests? in the midonet repo? | 14:10 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, if they just require midonet extensions those tests will be skipped, so technically it works with other implementations | 14:11 |
| yamamoto | we have it in networking-midonet right now. but neutron tempest plugin is ok for us. | 14:11 |
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| mlavalle | ok | 14:12 |
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| ihrachys | I would advise not to take more work on our plates. it's a good policy to allow stadium projects to get their tests in consolidated plugin, but I would not require it. if sfc wants to have it there, we should support. | 14:12 |
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| mlavalle | so it would be an opt in, right? | 14:13 |
| ihrachys | at the end of the day, users don't care as much about place for the tests | 14:13 |
| ihrachys | yeah I would say, if sfc or midonet see benefit in it, go for it. | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | I am fine with it | 14:14 |
| ihrachys | if they are stretched in resources, which would not be unthinkable, let them pick their fights | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | cool | 14:14 |
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| mlavalle | I think we have what we needed for the CI guys | 14:14 |
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| mlavalle | Next topic is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1649517 | 14:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649517 in neutron "qos policy attached to network, qos_policy_id is reflecting on neutron net-show , but not on the port with neutron port-show" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 14:15 |
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| ihrachys | is the suggestion there to add another 'fake' field to port-show output that would indicate effective policy? | 14:16 |
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| mlavalle | yeah, have the client add that info for the user | 14:17 |
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| ihrachys | not override existing field right? | 14:18 |
| mlavalle | instead of adding a new extension for the server | 14:18 |
| mlavalle | ihrachys: that's a good point | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | I don't think we have gotten to that detail in the comments so far | 14:19 |
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| mlavalle | what do you lean towards? | 14:19 |
| ihrachys | overriding would be bad. I won't be able to understand whether it's inherited or overridden | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | right | 14:20 |
| ihrachys | adding a new 'fake' field effective_qos_policy_id is better | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | and if the port has no policy of its own, its policy_id field would be empty, right? | 14:20 |
| ihrachys | qos_policy_id = None and effective_policy_id = whatever in network | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 14:21 |
| ihrachys | if it's overridden on port level, both are same | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | yamamoto: thoughts? | 14:21 |
| ihrachys | do we contribute it to OSC only? | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | maybe neutron python client also? | 14:22 |
| yamamoto | ihrachys: i agree what you said. i meant the same in comment #11 and waiting for feedback. | 14:23 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, I would at least try to make it in OSC first; if it's not accepted there, we may want to avoid introducing another discrepancy between OSC and neutronclient | 14:24 |
| mlavalle | ok | 14:24 |
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| ihrachys | I guess now we should write it up in LP and move to appoved? | 14:25 |
| ihrachys | I mean not now, but have someone assigned | 14:25 |
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| mlavalle | well, reedip is already working on it | 14:26 |
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| ihrachys | we should capture decision there so that he is aware of the path to take | 14:26 |
| * mlavalle writing it up | 14:27 | |
| yamamoto | i wonder if he has some use cases which need in neutron-api implementation for some reasons. | 14:27 |
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| ihrachys | good question | 14:28 |
| mlavalle | I am leaving the posibility open | 14:29 |
| mlavalle | in the comment | 14:29 |
| ihrachys | ok, thanks mlavalle | 14:29 |
| mlavalle | done | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | Next onw is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1705467 | 14:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1705467 in neutron "[RFE] project ID is not verified when creating neutron resources" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:33 |
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| mlavalle | we discussed this two weeks ago | 14:34 |
| mlavalle | haven't heard back from the submitter | 14:34 |
| ihrachys | should we just move the bug to OSC? | 14:34 |
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| ihrachys | or you think he may still want to have neutron-api to validate id? | 14:35 |
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| mlavalle | I say leave a note there today that if we don't hear back from him by next meeting, we will just move it to OSC bug | 14:36 |
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| ihrachys | ok | 14:36 |
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| mlavalle | Done | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1715386 | 14:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1715386 in neutron "[RFE]Support routing traffic based on subnet" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to zhaobo (zhaobo6) | 14:39 |
| mlavalle | Last time we talked about this one, we asked the submitter for a draft spec | 14:39 |
| mlavalle | the spec is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1715386 | 14:40 |
| mlavalle | I took a crack at reviewing the spec twice over the past 7 days or so | 14:40 |
| mlavalle | and yamamoto did the same | 14:40 |
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| mlavalle | I say the still needs improvement but what it is being proposed is starting to look clearer | 14:41 |
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| mlavalle | what did you think yamamoto? | 14:41 |
| yamamoto | i haven't looked the latest ps yet | 14:42 |
| ihrachys | (haven't checked the spec) does it give the answer to the question from LP on why not just multiple routers? | 14:42 |
| ihrachys | oh I see there is some references to qos / performance | 14:44 |
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| ihrachys | doesn't seem like yamamoto will answer | 14:47 |
| ihrachys | or am I cut off the channel? :) | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | you are not | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | I assumed you were reading the spec | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | but maybe you are not | 14:48 |
| yamamoto | oh were you waiting for me? sorry i thought you were reading the spec :-) | 14:48 |
| ihrachys | sorry. I eye balled it. I would need more time to comment on it in a more reasonable way. | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | My opinion is that it is a valid RFE and that the spec needs refinement | 14:48 |
| ihrachys | ok+ | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | but maybe yamamoto and ihrachys would like to go through the latest ps befoire approving the RFE? | 14:49 |
| yamamoto | i guess we should make the spec reading our new year homework. then decide the approval in the next meeting. | 14:50 |
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| mlavalle | that sounds good to me | 14:50 |
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| ihrachys | ok | 14:51 |
| mlavalle | done | 14:51 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1717560 | 14:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1717560 in neutron "[RFE] allow to have no default route in DHCP host routes" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:51 |
| yamamoto | i want to see the answer to armax's last question | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | I was hoping to catch Thomas in the channel | 14:53 |
| mlavalle | is tmorin his itc nick? | 14:53 |
| yamamoto | i think so | 14:54 |
| ihrachys | yes | 14:54 |
| mlavalle | he is not there | 14:54 |
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| mlavalle | so I guess we can wait for his answer. I will try to ctach him in IRC before the next meeting | 14:55 |
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| mlavalle | to make sure he is still listening / interested | 14:55 |
| * mlavalle leaving a note in the RFE | 14:56 | |
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| mlavalle | done | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | I think we ran out of time | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | Thanks for attending | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | happy holidays ihrachys and yamamoto | 14:58 |
| ihrachys | thanks | 14:58 |
| yamamoto | thank you | 14:58 |
| ihrachys | enjoy the season! | 14:58 |
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| mlavalle | thanks for all your hard work and attendance on a Friday morning / night | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Dec 22 14:59:25 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-12-22-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-12-22-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-12-22-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:59 |
| smcginnis | #startmeeting releaseteam | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Dec 22 15:00:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Ping list: dhellmann, dims, fungi, tonyb, lbragstad, ttx | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Anyone around? :) | 15:00 |
| ttx | o/ | 15:00 |
| fungi | of course | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-relmgt-tracking | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | Looks like we're at line 184 | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | Man, 10 weeks yet. This one has been flying by for me. | 15:02 |
| ttx | smcginnis: I know the feeling | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Almost like we could use another 6 months, huh? :D | 15:03 |
| ttx | maybe not 6, but certainly 3 :) | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | So, as the etherpad says for an agenda, there's not much. | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | We're entering the holiday quiet period and most of us will be out the next couple weeks. | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | And a few weeks before the next significant schedule event. | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | #topic Release job failures | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release job failures (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:04 | |
| smcginnis | I suppose we should recap the issues this week for the record. | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | Doc jobs builds were changed to not install the project. | 15:05 |
| smcginnis | And we had some dependencies we were using defined in setup.cfg. | 15:05 |
| smcginnis | There were some challenges getting it through gate, but once we added our requirements, we were able to get doc jobs running again. | 15:05 |
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| fungi | lots of projects, as it turned out, had interesting ways of declaring some of their docs build deps | 15:06 |
| smcginnis | I think I caught up on all ready release requests yesterday. | 15:06 |
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| fungi | (extras in setup.cfg, added directly in setup.py, et cetera) | 15:06 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Seems to at least have flushed out some inconsistencies. | 15:06 |
| fungi | yes, i would say we have a lot more consistency there now | 15:06 |
| fungi | than we did, say, a week or two ago | 15:06 |
| smcginnis | #info Broken sphinx job has been fixed, releases should be working now. | 15:07 |
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| smcginnis | There was also an issue with the publish-static job running under Python 2.7. Switching to 3 has resolved that. | 15:07 |
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| smcginnis | Anyone aware of any other release job issues? | 15:07 |
| fungi | if anyone thinks of/notices any, feel free to ping me to help get fixes expedited | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Thanks! As usually, you've been a life saver with these. | 15:09 |
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| smcginnis | *usual | 15:09 |
| fungi | wish i'd caught more of them earlier, but always happy to be of assistance | 15:09 |
| smcginnis | It's been an "interesting" release cycle for the infra team. ;) | 15:09 |
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| fungi | "exciting" (in the sense of that old chinese proverb) | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | Hehe, yep. | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | #topic Holiday meetings | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Holiday meetings (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:10 | |
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| smcginnis | From the notes on the etherpad, it looks like most of us are out or travelling the next couple weeks. | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | Do we want to decide now to skip the next week or two? | 15:10 |
| ttx | I won't be around next Friday | 15:11 |
| ttx | Should be around the Friday the week after | 15:11 |
| ttx | I propose skip one | 15:11 |
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| smcginnis | OK, I shouldn't have a problem on the 5th either. | 15:11 |
| fungi | i'll be around-ish, but probably only a few hours a day since i'll mostly be using the computer as an excuse to get away from family here and there | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | fungi: It's a good strategy. I've used it myself to some success. | 15:12 |
| fungi | but yeah, around as usual again after the first of the year | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | OK, let's skip next week and pick it back up in January. | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | We can always discuss any immediate issues in the -release channel. | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | #info Skipping meeting 29 Dec. | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open discussion | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:13 | |
| smcginnis | Anything else we should go over? | 15:13 |
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| ttx | nope | 15:13 |
| fungi | i got nothin | 15:13 |
| smcginnis | OK. I'm sure I'll talk to both of you before then, but happy holidays and I hope you get some well deserved rest. | 15:13 |
| fungi | thanks, you too! | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 15:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:14 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Dec 22 15:14:21 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:14 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-12-22-15.00.html | 15:14 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-12-22-15.00.txt | 15:14 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-12-22-15.00.log.html | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | Under 15 minutes. That's the kind of meeting I like. :) | 15:14 |
| ttx | yay | 15:14 |
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| ender958 | Hello | 15:26 |
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| ender958 | I am here for the release meeting | 15:26 |
| ender958 | Release Team Meeting | 15:26 |
| ender958 | !ops the release team has not started the meeting they were supposed to start over 25 minutes ago | 15:27 |
| openstack | ender958: Error: "ops" is not a valid command. | 15:27 |
| Roamer` | ender958, the release team meeting actually started exactly on time, there was a bit of discussion, then 15 minutes later there was a call for "anything else" and nobody had anything, so they closed it | 15:28 |
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| ender958 | ok | 15:29 |
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