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gagehugo#startmeeting security15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Mar 29 15:00:28 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'security'15:00
gagehugo#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda15:01
gagehugoping eeiden fungi gagehugo lhinds nickthetait15:01
nickthetaithi15:01
gagehugonickthetait o/15:01
gagehugowill likely be a light meeting today15:02
gagehugolhinds is out today15:02
fungionc again, around but also in tc office hour. ping me if you need my input15:02
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gagehugofungi will do!15:02
gagehugo#topic Documentation15:03
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gagehugoI have no updates here15:03
gagehugo#topic Keystone Threat Analysis15:03
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gagehugoproposed a change to governance  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555934/15:04
gagehugoto add vulnerability:managed tag to keystonemiddleware15:04
gagehugoso that is moving along it ok looks like15:04
gagehugothere's other reviews for the other libraries up as well15:05
gagehugo#topic Spectre/Meltdown mitigation15:05
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gagehugottx any updates?15:05
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gagehugoif so feel free to interrupt me :)15:07
gagehugoI don't think there are any updates for policy roadmap15:07
gagehugonor lcoo atm15:08
gagehugoeeiden15:08
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gagehugo#topic Bandit15:08
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gagehugodon't think browne is around15:08
gagehugono updates here15:09
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gagehugo#topic tatu15:09
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gagehugoany updates for the Tatu project?15:09
gagehugo#topic OSSN15:10
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gagehugodon't think theres any updates here15:11
gagehugo#topic VMT15:11
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gagehugonor here15:11
gagehugo#topic General Discussion15:11
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gagehugonickthetait do you have anything?15:12
nickthetaityeah, quick question15:12
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gagehugosure15:12
nickthetaitWould like to draft an OSSN, but not sure if everything here is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn in a "ready to go" state15:12
nickthetaitparticularly https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn15:13
nickthetaiterr15:13
nickthetaithttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/+bug/170336915:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1703369 in OpenStack Security Notes "get_identity_providers policy should be singular" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Luke Hinds (lhinds)15:13
nickthetaitcould I just start writing something for this one?15:13
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gagehugonickthetait lhinds knows more about ossn currently than I do, we can reach out to him about that but I don't see why not15:14
gagehugoI can shoot him an email if you want15:14
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nickthetaitthat would be awesome. can reply to me (my current nickname)@gmail.com15:15
gagehugosure thing15:15
gagehugodoes anyone have anything else?15:15
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gagehugowill give a couple minutes and then end early if nothing else is needed15:15
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nickthetaitpeople must be away on vacation?15:16
gagehugomaybe spring break :)15:16
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nickthetaitactually when is openstack conference must be coming up soon15:17
gagehugoMay something15:17
gagehugohttps://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/15:17
gagehugoMay 21-24, 201815:17
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nickthetaitaha15:17
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gagehugoalright15:18
gagehugothanks for coming everyone15:18
gagehugoo/15:18
gagehugo#endmeeting15:18
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nickthetaitspeedy! later15:19
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melwitt#startmeeting nova21:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Mar 29 21:00:20 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is melwitt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'21:00
tssuryao/21:00
edleafe\o21:00
takashino/21:00
efriedö/21:00
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mriedemo/21:01
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melwittsorry about that everyone21:02
melwittmy irc client was messed up21:02
melwitt#topic Release News21:02
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melwitt#link Rocky release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Rocky_Release_Schedule21:02
melwittnext milestone is r-1 Apr 1921:03
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melwittand remember we have moved spec freeze out to r-2 Jun 7 because of runways21:03
melwittanyone have anything else for release news?21:03
melwitt#topic Bugs (stuck/critical)21:04
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melwittno critical bugs21:04
melwitt#link 36 new untriaged bugs (down 4 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New21:04
melwittthanks to all who have been helping with bug triage21:04
melwittand the usual reminders:21:05
melwitt#link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags21:05
melwitt#link untagged untriaged bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW21:05
melwitt9 untriaged untagged bugs, so again we've been good about applying tags21:05
melwitt#help tag untagged untriaged bugs with appropriate tags to categorize them21:05
melwitt#help consider signing up as a bug tag owner and help determine the validity and severity of bugs with your tag21:05
melwitt#link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html21:06
melwittgate status has been pretty good lately it seems21:06
mriedemthere is a race21:06
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/557722/21:06
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melwittah, okay let's review that then21:07
melwittI'll take a look after this21:07
melwitt#link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days21:07
melwittwe had a thread about vmware CI recently on the dev ML, that's the main one we've noticed being very sporadic for awhile now21:08
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melwittwe're going to be working with the vmware subteam to get that more consistent21:09
melwittanything else on bugs or gate stuff?21:09
melwitt#topic Reminders21:09
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melwitt#link Rocky Review Priorities https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rocky-nova-priorities-tracking21:10
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melwittpriorities etherpad, still useful for surfacing various interesting subteam patches and bug fixes, IMO21:10
melwittso be sure to look there to find things to review21:10
melwitt#info Review runways are live, check out the instructions and add your blueprint to the queue if it's ready-for-review https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-runways-rocky21:10
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melwittI sent a mail to the dev ML about runways, we've got blueprints in runways now and so far, so good. please be sure to make blueprints in runways your review priority21:11
melwittI'm seeing a lot of review activity on the runway blueprints already21:11
melwitt#info Spec freeze is moved out to r-2, June 721:12
melwittas mentioned earlier21:12
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melwittanything else for reminders?21:12
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melwitt#topic Stable branch status21:12
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melwitt#link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z21:12
melwittno open reviews? wow21:13
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efriedsoon21:13
melwittgood job reviewing stable patches everyone21:13
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/557704/21:13
mriedem17.0.2 release request21:13
melwittokay, cool. will ack that21:14
efriedmriedem: do we want to wait for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557508/ backport?21:14
efried(I don't know how that works, with the waiting or not)21:14
mriedemefried: if it gets approved soonish21:14
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efriedk, I already bugged melwitt for a second review21:15
melwittI can review that one, then we can roll it into the release. anything else people were thinking for stable/queens?21:15
melwitt#link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z21:15
melwitta fair number of backports there21:16
melwittI do want to do a pike release soon for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/174650921:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1746509 in OpenStack Compute (nova) pike "TypeError: Can't upgrade a READER transaction to a WRITER mid-transaction" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to melanie witt (melwitt)21:16
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mriedemi can flush out the pike stuff after the meeting21:16
melwittpeople upgrading from ocata -> pike will break on that when they try to list instances21:16
mriedemthe stuff that's not mine21:17
efriedbah, list instances, who does that?21:17
melwittnobody, you're right21:17
melwittcool, thanks mriedem21:17
melwitt#link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z21:17
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melwittmoar backports21:17
melwittI've got one stuck there that I'm still debugging func test failures on21:18
melwittI can feel that no more EOL is going to be "challenging" in that regard21:18
melwittI do want to get https://review.openstack.org/538310 reviewed and released for ocata when possible, regression on boot from volume + config drive for virtio-scsi21:19
mriedemi can -1 that right now21:19
mriedemoh wait, that's not a backport21:20
mriedemi guess you're co-author on that now, but not listed?21:20
melwittI can't recall if there are other ocata things. I guess there is the DB reader/writer transaction issue that we didn't have a good answer for because of how callers of target_cell in ocata don't expect a new yielded RequestContext21:20
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mriedemmaybe you uh, don't want to go over all of the ocata potential things right now... :)21:21
melwittI worked on the unit tests a bit, so I wasn't sure how much of a contribution it was for co-author. but yeah, wasn't gonna vote on it21:21
melwittright. just wanted to point out there are issues on stable/ocata that are pretty bad IMHO21:21
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melwittokay, anything else on stable branches?21:22
melwitt#topic Subteam Highlights21:22
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melwittdansmith: cells v221:22
mriedemwe didn't have a meeting, we talked about what amounted to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557506/21:23
mriedemwhich will go back to ocat21:23
mriedem*ocata21:23
mriedemonce i can resolve this test race21:23
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melwittah, right21:23
mriedemcells db fixture strikes me again21:23
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mriedemtssurya's disabled cells series is nearly all done21:24
melwittI'll take a look. I know too much about the CellDatabases fixture21:24
mriedemand dan's placement req stuff is nearly all approved now too21:24
melwittawesome21:24
melwittokay, let's go to the next subteam, edleafe, scheduler?21:25
edleafeStarted the meeting off with a lively discussion about NUMA, and how to best represent the various ways it could be configured.21:25
edleafeAgreed that the virt driver is responsible for representing NUMA-ness to placement, and that ops will have config knobs to control how NUMA is to be used.21:25
edleafeWe then ignored mriedem21:25
edleafegibi tried to sneak in a reference to his upcoming honeymoon, but we congratulated him nonetheless.21:25
edleafeWe stopped ignoring mriedem and agreed to review his long-ignored patch on the ironic flavor migration check in nova-status (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527541)21:25
edleafeThat's all.21:25
melwittheh21:26
melwittI just reviewed that, coincidentally21:26
melwittokay, gibi left notes that there was no notifications subteam meeting this week21:26
efriedHe's out for two weeks; is someone running notif meetings in his absence?21:27
melwittand he's away for the next two weeks, so the next notifications subteam meeting and summary mail are expected the week of Apr 1621:27
efried:)21:27
melwittlooks like they're getting a meeting break21:27
mriedemit's just me and gibi21:27
mriedemso i think i can manage21:27
melwitthaha, okay21:27
melwittanything else for subteams?21:27
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melwitt#topic Stuck Reviews21:28
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melwittthere's one item on the agenda21:28
melwitthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/532407/ - Support volume-backed server rebuild spec; stuck figuring out what to do about the original root volume (create new one and swap out the old? delete the old or leave it? re-image the volume, in cinder? in nova?)21:28
melwitt#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2018-March/014952.html21:28
mriedemi think that's mostly unstuck now, i put a stake in the ground during the spec review sprint21:28
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mriedem#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128870.html21:28
melwittokay, nice21:28
mriedem^ is the new hostness21:28
mriedem*hotness21:28
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melwittah, yup, read that earlier today21:29
melwittcool, so the plan is a new re-image API from the cinder team and then we handle the rest on the nova side, if I got that right21:29
mriedemyeah21:30
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melwittsounds good21:30
melwittanyone else have anything for stuck reviews?21:30
mriedemand by cinder team,21:30
mriedemi assume the contributors that want the nova thing will do the cinder thing21:30
melwittah, yeah. fair enough21:31
melwitt#topic Open discussion21:31
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efriedS release is called Stein.  Some may insist it be pronounced the German way, [shtīn] (rhymes with 'whine')21:31
efriedMe, I can't fathom what legal issues we were expecting with "solar", a ridiculously ordinary dictionary word.  I think it was just the drinkers on the board exerting their influence.21:31
melwitthaha21:31
edleafeMaybe too close to 'Solaris'?21:31
melwittI'm guessing there's some companies out there called Solar21:32
efriedI assert, who cares?  solar is just a word.21:32
efriedbut whatever.21:32
melwittyeah, I hear you21:32
efriedAlso:21:32
efriedWe should add a "Runways status" section to the agenda for this meeting.21:32
edleafeefried: so is 'apple'21:32
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melwittefried: ah, good idea. I shall add that to the mix from now on21:32
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efriededleafe: Good example.  If we held our summit in New York and wanted to name the release apple, we freakin should be able to.21:32
melwitt#action melwitt add "runways status" section to the nova meeting agenda21:33
edleafeyeah, that's not how lawyers work21:33
melwittthere aren't any items on the 'open discussion' section of the agenda21:33
* efried raises eyebrow to the premise "lawyers work"21:33
melwittdoes anyone else have anything for open discussion?21:34
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melwittoh, I guess I can mention I'm gonna be out tomorrow for $spring_holiday as I expect others might be too21:34
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melwittsome people might be out monday for the same21:35
edleafesome of us don't get off21:35
edleafe<grumble, grumble>21:35
melwittno $spring_holiday? *gasp*21:35
mriedemcan we say 'get off' more please21:35
efriedmriedem: is stuff like that why you don't work for IBM anymore?21:36
efriedWe can't even *think* stuff like that.21:36
mriedemlet's say, sure21:36
melwittalright, sounds like we're done here21:36
melwittthanks everybody21:36
melwitt#endmeeting21:36
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