Thursday, 2015-10-08

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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Resize: Return to initial state instead of ACTIVE when resize fails  https://review.openstack.org/20237901:21
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add project id and user id information in os-server-group API  https://review.openstack.org/20991701:29
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Drop outdated sqlite downgrade script  https://review.openstack.org/21289101:29
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add checks for volume status when rebuilding  https://review.openstack.org/21756701:29
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Refactor parsing metadata to a common function  https://review.openstack.org/23230101:47
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova-specs: Spec for "tenant_id" "user_id" filter implies "all_tenant"  https://review.openstack.org/19818401:54
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thetravdid nova ever have drivers to go directly to esxi hypervisors? or was it always done via vcenter?02:50
openstackgerritjunxu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Allow force stop server in nova rest api  https://review.openstack.org/19541802:54
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Refactor parsing metadata to a common function  https://review.openstack.org/23230103:17
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openstackgerritsonu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces xrange() with range() to provide py 2/3 compatibility  https://review.openstack.org/20530703:45
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openstackgerritlyanchih proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: serial console ports count upper limit needs to be checked  https://review.openstack.org/20737303:49
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: hacking check for contextlib.nested for py34 support  https://review.openstack.org/22868804:17
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Nuke EC2 API  https://review.openstack.org/23232504:50
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: Add soft deleting instance actions and events  https://review.openstack.org/23188705:08
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/23236206:39
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openstackgerritgongysh proposed openstack/nova: load consoleauth_topic option before using it  https://review.openstack.org/23236706:50
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openstackgerritHans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove and deprecate conductor provider_fw_rule_get_all()  https://review.openstack.org/21624106:58
openstackgerritHans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove unused provider firewall rules functionality in nova  https://review.openstack.org/18402706:58
openstackgerritHans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove provider_fw_rules tables and associated db api methods  https://review.openstack.org/21624206:59
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Use version convert methods from oslo_utils.versionutils  https://review.openstack.org/20332207:20
openstackgerritUkesh Kumar proposed openstack/nova: nova.../driver/_get_guest_config method broken up  https://review.openstack.org/22938207:20
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Handle race in allocate_for_instance  https://review.openstack.org/22180307:51
bauzasgood morning Nova07:52
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: morning, was looking at the stable branch to see where we are08:28
bauzashttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/liberty,n,z08:28
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: IIUC, you probably wait for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232033/ to be merged before asking for RC2 ?08:28
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: since https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232363/ is +W08:29
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: meh, nevermind, the master branch of dansmith's change isn't merged yet08:29
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lxsliMorning08:45
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johnthetubaguybauzas: yeah, that patch is why we didn't release yesterday, but the gate is a bit... angry08:47
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: yup the firewall thing is just hassling08:47
bauzass/hassling/harassing08:48
johnthetubaguyah right, that would do it08:49
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sudiptojohnthetubaguy, i had a specless BP in liberty, that couldn't get completed. Is there a way to get that approved?09:10
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johnthetubaguysudipto: yes, you add it onto the etherpad, under specless BP: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-spec-review-tracking more details in the ML message09:11
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, thank you.09:12
johnthetubaguysudipto: no worries, I am usually getting through a few of those a day09:13
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sudiptojohnthetubaguy, thanks a lot!09:13
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openstackgerritgongysh proposed openstack/nova: load consoleauth_topic option before using it  https://review.openstack.org/23236709:16
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, updated :)09:17
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, another query, i am a bit late on submitting a couple of topics on which i wanted to have a summit discussion, is there anyway i could do that now?09:18
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johnthetubaguysudipto: so I have closed the form now, what are the ones you are wanting to add?09:19
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sudiptojohnthetubaguy, yeah i just found that out now. I wanted to have some discussion around Memory/CPU hot plugs.09:21
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sudiptojohnthetubaguy, also a very specific topic on handling NUMA aware VM deployments on ppc architecture running KVM...09:21
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johnthetubaguysudipto: there is a session on live-resize, which is basically the same as memory/cpu hot plug09:27
johnthetubaguysudipto: well a proposed session I guess09:27
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, oh ok let me look around for that one.09:28
johnthetubaguysudipto: what is required for ppc NUMA, do we have a spec describing all that up for review?09:28
johnthetubaguysudipto: this is the live resize spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141219/09:28
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, i can actually write a spec. I had sent a note out briefly describing the problem on the ML.  But I should able to describe it better.09:29
johnthetubaguysudipto: please write a spec, thats basically required for the summit session to be possible09:30
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, ok sure. i will get done. Thanks!!09:30
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johnthetubaguysudipto: on the hot plug, my thinking is really the operation is, live-migrate to somewhere with space, then hotplug the extra bits for the newly selected flavor, is that close to what you are thinking/wanting?09:31
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, i am actually reading the spec. But my idea is a little different. It's not really attached to a live-migrate scenario as such. Let me read the spec, and i shall be able to pin point, if this is different than what i am thinking.09:33
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johnthetubaguysudipto: so the need for the live-migrate, is you need to (optionally) find somewhere with the appropriate resources free (consider a fill first scheduling strategy, then hotplug)09:34
markus_zAnyone familiar with "consoleauth"? bug 1503975 reports that this service will fail to start.09:35
openstackbug 1503975 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "service consoleauth does not start: "no such option: consoleauth_topic"" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1503975 - Assigned to yong sheng gong (gongysh)09:35
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, yeah that would be the natural case.09:36
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, i thought you meant, it gets triggered during live migrate. Sorry.09:36
johnthetubaguymarkus_z: sounds a bit like they have a bad config file? do we have consoleauth_topic in the code anywhere?09:36
johnthetubaguysudipto: ah, sorry, thats mostly my bad description09:37
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johnthetubaguysudipto: if you have different use cases, it would be great to add those as comments on that spec09:37
markus_zjohnthetubaguy: yes, we do, it's in the __init__.py of consoleauth09:37
johnthetubaguymarkus_z: hmm, well thats funky09:37
markus_zThat's what confused me09:37
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sudiptojohnthetubaguy, sure.09:37
markus_zand I don't find a change related to that.09:37
markus_zgongysh_: You are working on that bug, did you find the root cause?09:38
johnthetubaguymarkus_z: oh wait, maybe its missing an import or something?09:38
markus_zjohnthetubaguy: The patch tries to resolve it by adding the import, yes. But I don't understand why this is necessary all of a sudden.09:39
johnthetubaguymarkus_z: yeah, seems odd, makes we wonder about oslo_config versions I guess09:39
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johnthetubaguymarkus_z: I guess why does it fail for them, and not the gate, is the question09:40
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markus_zjohnthetubaguy: right, I would expect more trouble09:40
johnthetubaguymarkus_z: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/c94b71c2d42a651f3b24d5f0ac1819bfa2a79a1209:42
johnthetubaguymarkus_z: seems like its all in nova.service, so its fine09:42
markus_zjohnthetubaguy: I'm sorry, I don't understand it. That patch is 18 months old.09:44
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johnthetubaguymarkus_z: turns out its totally not relevant, sorry, I am blind09:45
johnthetubaguymarkus_z: this is interesting though: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cmd/console.py09:45
johnthetubaguymarkus_z: its needed in another similar cmd09:45
johnthetubaguymarkus_z: I wonder if we are missing coverage here :(09:45
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markus_zjohnthetubaguy: It's a valid assumption, yeah. I'll try to reproduce it. Would you see it as a critical?09:47
johnthetubaguymarkus_z: its got to be at least high, if we can reproduce it, its tempting to block RC2 on that09:48
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markus_zjohnthetubaguy: I'll have to leave right now, will be back in around 45min and proceed to work on that.09:51
johnthetubaguymarkus_z: no problems, thanks for digging09:52
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johnthetubaguymarkus_z: so... it seems only congress is testing n-cauth in the gate :S09:52
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rajeshtjohnthetubaguy: could you please tell me whether it is required to backport this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135202/ to stable/kilo10:05
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johnthetubaguyrajesht: I don't think its required, given its an RPC version change, I don't think we are able to back port that fix10:06
rajeshtjohnthetubaguy: thanks, and I have tried to implement your suggestion regarding force-delete patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163798/10:07
rajeshtjohnthetubaguy: I tried to create separate global dict to map task_states with vm_states but in that case, the functions in nova/api/openstack/common.py module10:08
johnthetubaguyrajesht: afraid I am unlikely to get to that right now, running around trying to get things sorted for the summit, and specs reviewed, and sorting out liberty release10:08
rajeshtjohnthetubaguy: no problem, have a look when you are free. thanks :)10:08
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Fix InstanceV1 backports to use context  https://review.openstack.org/23164910:12
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add more documentation for RetryFilter  https://review.openstack.org/23224110:24
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: markus_z: just catched the convo - was troubleshooting some Fedora/Atom issues10:25
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: markus_z: before wondering if RC2, I'd like to know the oslo.config version from the reporter10:26
johnthetubaguybauzas: yeah +1, can you reproduce the issue?10:26
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I can't now, because my devstack is stuck10:27
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: but I'm looking at oslo.config to see the problem10:27
bauzasIIRC, we still have some tests for some cmd modules10:27
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: that said, the bug seems valid given the proposal https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232367/2/nova/cmd/consoleauth.py,cm10:28
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I'm just wondering if it's a regression10:28
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: because calling the opt just without importing is bad10:29
bauzasbut the bug owner should just move the import_opt up to the module10:29
bauzasnot within the method10:29
bauzasso, my takes are10:29
bauzasis this due to a oslo.config change?10:30
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bauzasis this regressed by a liberty change?10:30
johnthetubaguybauzas: I had a quick look, and I just couldn't track it down10:31
johnthetubaguybauzas: I suspect it may have been implicitly imported in the past, but no longer is, or something like that.10:31
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: that's MHO10:31
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: since it's a global CONF object, it means that the __init__.py was called elsewhere10:32
bauzasand we possibly removed it in liberty10:32
johnthetubaguybauzas: I was trying to track why its different to this: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cmd/console.py#L30 or what happened10:32
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I suspect it was never imported first, but since the CONF object was already having this attribute, it was good10:33
johnthetubaguybauzas: +110:34
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: that's one option10:34
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: so, atm, I'm tracking down any change removing an import on nova.consoleauth10:35
johnthetubaguybauzas: the other question, is why is this not failing in the gate? have you reproduced this?10:36
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I suspect it's not checked10:37
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: since it's for a CLI10:37
johnthetubaguybauzas: it is started up, but I don't see any logs stored10:37
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: is it ?10:37
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: okay10:38
johnthetubaguyyeah, I checked, although its possible it fails in a way we don't spot10:38
johnthetubaguylike I can't find the logs for that screen10:38
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: that's my point10:39
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I suspect we don't run the process in tempest10:39
bauzasbut I'm not a console guy10:39
bauzasoh right, we're not using screen in the gate10:40
johnthetubaguybauzas: look at nova-consoleauth in http://logs.openstack.org/85/207385/15/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/7c2aa0c/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz10:41
johnthetubaguybauzas: thats all I found10:41
bauzashttp://logs.openstack.org/67/232367/2/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/f74ea4c/logs/ps.txt.gz10:42
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: ^ can't see consoleauth in the running processes10:43
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: so that's probably being started but failing10:43
bauzassilently I mean10:43
johnthetubaguybauzas: yeah, that would fit10:43
johnthetubaguybauzas: I couldn't find the logs to prove it either way10:43
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: that's normal10:44
bauzasif http://logs.openstack.org/85/207385/15/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/7c2aa0c/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-10-06_02_09_26_620 is failing where we think10:44
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: it's failing *before* starting the Service10:44
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: so no logs10:44
johnthetubaguyoh...10:44
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bauzasyeah it sucks10:45
johnthetubaguyso maybe all those other processes are broken too?10:45
bauzaswe thought we were running some unittests10:45
bauzasfor checking that most of our entrypoints are starting10:45
bauzasnope, not covered :(10:46
bauzasso, that's why we don't notice it in the gate10:46
bauzasnow, the 1M question, was that a regression and since when ?10:47
johnthetubaguyneed some functional tests for this10:47
johnthetubaguyyeah, agreed10:47
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: at least something just doing like we already have for some other cmds10:47
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bauzasnot zactly a full fonctional test, but just ensuring that the mocked service is callede10:47
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: load consoleauth_topic option before using it  https://review.openstack.org/23236710:50
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: ^10:50
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I just modified the release10:51
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: given its prio10:51
bauzasand added a bit more in the message10:51
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: load consoleauth_topic option before using it  https://review.openstack.org/23236710:53
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: okay, I'm trying to dig how it could have been working before10:57
openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Use version convert methods from oslo_utils.versionutils  https://review.openstack.org/20332210:57
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: tbc, calling CONF.attr means that some module could have been importing that opt first10:57
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: but given it's a separate process that we call, there are actually a very few places where it could have been importing nova.consoleauth10:58
markus_zbauzas: great work! I have another meeting now :( I'll catch up later10:59
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cmd/consoleauth.py#L20-L37 are the only calls where we could have been calling nova.consoleauth previously10:59
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johnthetubaguybauzas: +111:01
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johnthetubaguybauzas: I can't see how it ever worked11:01
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bauzasjichen: excellent comment, adding a unittest11:02
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jichenbauzas: not sure whether it's doable. didn't see any thing related before11:03
bauzasjichen: I'll just make sure a mocked Service will be called11:03
bauzasjichen: that's enough for our problem11:03
jichenbauzas: ok, thanks~11:04
alex_xubauzas: johnthetubaguy I guess this is a little hint https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/xyz11:09
bauzasalex_xu: excellent11:10
bauzasalex_xu: you gave us the stack11:10
alex_xuI force the old code raise exception, then we can know where we import it11:10
alex_xubauzas: the conductor.manager didn't import compute.api anymore in the lastest code, do you have any idea when we remove it?11:11
bauzaswhen you say 'old code', you mean kilo ?11:12
bauzasalex_xu: that's possible to get some git deletions11:12
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johnthetubaguyalex_xu: oh, that was super recent11:13
bauzasalex_xu: IIRC, it's a trick with git log11:13
johnthetubaguyI approved it I think11:13
bauzasalex_xu: since git log shows you additions and deletions11:13
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bauzasalex_xu: then you just have to git log the file you want with matching a specifying query11:14
bauzassec, finding the option11:14
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alex_xubauzas: ah, I guess this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168858/ :)11:14
johnthetubaguythats the one, so its not an RC2 issue11:14
johnthetubaguywhoop11:14
openstackgerritAndrea Rosa proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add soft policies for server-group feature  https://review.openstack.org/21250411:15
bauzasalex_xu: yup, that's my finding11:15
alex_xubauzas: cool11:16
bauzasalex_xu: johnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168858/8/setup.cfg is merged in mitaka11:16
bauzasso that's not a liberty backport, cool11:16
alex_xubauzas: yea, cool11:16
openstackgerritFlavio Percoco proposed openstack/nova-specs: (follow up) Nova Image v1 -> v2  https://review.openstack.org/23135711:17
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: do you know if we already have an handy Service fixture in the unittest tree ?11:19
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: nvm11:19
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, went through the 'live resize' spec. Apart from the comments that i would like to put to the spec link - do you consider the spec to implement the functionality into each hypervisor driver? (I assume the way each hypervisor handles live-resize might be a bit different from the other)11:24
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johnthetubaguysudipto: right, you would probably want a spec for your preferred hypervisor, the key bit is sharing the same idea of the operation11:26
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sudiptojohnthetubaguy, hmm got it.11:26
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openstackgerritAlexey I. Froloff proposed openstack/nova: Fix more inconsistency between Nova-Net and Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/22627411:55
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I left a comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232367/4 explaning my thoughts about testing the regression (ie. a console script wedged)12:01
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: tl;dr it's about wondering if devstack shouldn't rather fail12:01
bauzassdague: I'd appreciate your thoughts on that12:01
bauzaswe could also run a functional test, but since it's a CLI command, I'm not sure what to test unless the process12:02
bauzass/unless/but12:02
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sdaguebauzas: this is one of the screen daemons?12:05
bauzassdague: yup12:05
bauzassdague: the problem is described in bug 150397512:06
openstackbug 1503975 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "service consoleauth does not start: "no such option: consoleauth_topic"" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1503975 - Assigned to Sylvain Bauza (sylvain-bauza)12:06
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bauzassdague: long story short, since there are some import chains, someone removed an import which was importing the needed opt12:06
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bauzassdague: but the main problem is that the gate missed that12:07
sdagueyeh, so I'm all in favor of devstack having code to assert that everything it started should be running for real12:07
bauzassdague: because it was failing before the service was created actually12:07
sdagueI am a little surprised nothing showed up in the error log12:07
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bauzassdague: okay, will see how to land a devstack change12:07
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bauzassdague: AFAIU, devstack started the process12:08
bauzashttp://logs.openstack.org/85/207385/15/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/7c2aa0c/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-10-06_02_09_26_62012:08
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bauzassdague: but since the exception was failing here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cmd/consoleauth.py#L4012:08
bauzassdague: the service wasn't created12:08
bauzassdague: and if you see http://logs.openstack.org/85/207385/15/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/7c2aa0c/logs/ps.txt.gz there is no nova-consoleauth process12:09
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bauzassdague: so we should probably verify in run_command or whatever that the process actually started correctly - but that's a little racy12:10
bauzassdague: given it was called but failing the second after12:10
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sdagueright12:11
sdagueso, honestly, grenade has some code for this on the upgrade side12:11
bauzasoh good to know12:11
sdaguehttps://github.com/openstack-dev/grenade/blob/a84011480dded5692c8bfa85f455ea676a221fb4/projects/60_nova/upgrade.sh#L72-L8112:12
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sdagueso I think an approach like that might be best12:12
sdagueat the end of start_nova we check that services exist, and there are log files12:12
bauzasI see12:12
sdagueor, honestly, we could have a service verify phase at the end of all the starts12:13
sdaguewhich wouldn't be a bad call12:13
bauzasI think of that too12:13
sdaguehonestly, probably more robust12:13
bauzasbecause of the possible corner cases where a service could fail after the check12:13
sdagueand we could make grenade use it12:13
sdagueyeh12:13
bauzasI'm not really skilled on that (I mean on devstack, not bash :D )12:14
bauzasI should fill a wishlist bug to devstack,nope ?12:14
bauzasor a bp ?12:14
sdaguewe don't really do bp12:14
bauzassee, I even don't know the devstack process :D12:14
sdagueit's a pretty loose process :)12:15
bauzasalthough I should have a commit like 2.5yr ago IIRC :)12:15
bauzasok, I'll file a bug12:15
sdagueso, is it a thing you'd like to take a stab at?12:15
bauzasidk12:15
sdaguebecause I can point you in the right direction if you do12:15
bauzasI need to read a few bits12:15
sdaguesure12:16
bauzasit'd be awesome12:16
sdagueconceptually I think we should have another class of functions that are verfiy_$servicename12:16
sdagueand just a final phase of devstack that does that12:16
sdagueit would extend the plugin interface as well12:16
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bauzassdague: agreed12:17
bauzassdague: I can surely file the bug and do the first investigations12:17
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sdaguecool, sounds good12:18
bauzasso anyone could contribute if he feels better than me12:18
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johnthetubaguybauzas: thanks for digging12:28
markus_zbauzas: When I execute devstack without your patch I get the error message "echo 'Error: Service n-cauth is not running'". Isn't that the error we are looking for?12:28
johnthetubaguymarkus_z: good point, maybe its just not failing the gate?12:28
sdaguemarkus_z: can you link to where it's happening, we might be missing a fail condition12:29
bauzasmarkus_z: just fueling my stomach, but do you have some evidence to show ?12:29
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sdagueI'll definitely admit the service checking in devstack is pretty mediocre, we kind of punt to tempest for a bunch of that. However, we should probably change that fact.12:30
markus_zThe tail from my stack.sh.log: http://paste.openstack.org/show/475715/12:30
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markus_zLine 102 shows the error.12:30
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Catch InvalidBDMEphemeralSize during resize  https://review.openstack.org/23250512:31
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Handle Invalid exception during boot process  https://review.openstack.org/23250612:31
bauzasreally weird12:31
bauzasseems there is already some error handling12:31
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sdagueoh, yeh, so that's because you are under screen12:32
sdagueand in the gate we aren't12:32
johnthetubaguyah...12:32
sdaguebecause screen has some weird races in it12:32
markus_zAh, I didn't know that12:32
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johnthetubaguyso I guess we lost that check, when we stopped using screen, although it was a very racey check I guess12:33
bauzasyup, I know the gate isn't running screen12:33
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bauzasbut then, I wonder if that check could be run too without screen ?12:33
bauzasdisclaimer: it's a devstack convo12:34
bauzasso probably not the best place12:34
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bauzashere I mean12:34
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sdagueyeh, because we have to background things it's a little weird12:34
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sdaguelet me ponder12:35
markus_zYeah, I started the convo here because I thought we have a Liberty blocker but that's fortunately not the case.12:35
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bauzassdague: https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/150411812:40
openstackLaunchpad bug 1504118 in devstack "Devstack could verify if a service started correctly without screen" [Undecided,New]12:40
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bauzasanyway, since the bug is not in Liberty, there is no huuuge need to merge the bugfix quickly12:41
markus_zbauzas: +112:41
bauzaswe can sit down and discuss about how to do that correctly12:41
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sdaguebauzas: ok, I have a narrow fix12:45
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sdaguehttps://review.openstack.org/23251112:45
sdagueI'm assuming that should fail in upstream atm?12:45
sdagueor was your patch to fix it already landed12:46
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johnthetubaguydanpb: do you know about the current state of that Neutron VIF lib discussion?12:48
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danpbjohnthetubaguy: don't think there's been much discussion recently12:49
bauzassdague: no, it wasn't12:49
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bauzassdague: I could even mark it Depends-On your change12:50
danpbjohnthetubaguy: might be something to hash out at the summit12:50
johnthetubaguydanpb: I am wondering if we need a summit sessions to move that forward?12:50
johnthetubaguydanpb: yeah12:50
bauzasthere is a ML thread for neutron folks12:50
sdaguebauzas: sure, that would verify that it's currently catching a broken thing12:50
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sdagueand that your fix fixes it12:50
bauzasI was hoping to see some points about the nova/neutron interaction12:50
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sdaguewe'll have to reverse the patch order to land it, but that will at least give us confidence12:50
bauzasbut not a lot of people told about that12:50
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bauzassdague: um, good point12:51
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bauzassdague: I'm not precisely opiniated12:51
sdaguebauzas: I like building confidence in this one12:51
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sdagueso that we know it addresses the issue at hand12:51
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claudiubjohnthetubaguy: hi, can you throw in your opinion on this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232108/12:55
bauzassdague: ack, what do you prefer ? leave the 2 changes not related or having one being depending on another one ?12:55
bauzassorry if I missed your point12:55
openstackgerritAlexander Schmidt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Libvirt: AIO mode for disk devices  https://review.openstack.org/23251412:56
sdaguebauzas: let's leave them independent for now12:57
bauzasfine12:57
sdaguethe devstack change will go up, and it should fail12:57
sdagueassuming it does, I'll depends-on your patch, and it should pass12:57
bauzasI see12:57
sdagueif it does, we should land both in that order12:57
bauzaswfm12:58
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johnthetubaguyclaudiub: any chance you can update the test list in that patch, to prove it helped, or do they need more work before they pass?12:59
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claudiubjohnthetubaguy: I don't think I can do much on this. Sure, I think I can enable some unit tests, but most of them still won't work, as there plenty of py3 specific problems.13:01
claudiubjohnthetubaguy: I'll see what I can do13:02
johnthetubaguyclaudiub: agreed, just wondering if any could be enabled really13:02
johnthetubaguyclaudiub: it seems to follow the existing pattern, honestly, we have actually been replacing most of this with private functions with the @patch decorator in code reviews, thats an alternative13:02
claudiubjohnthetubaguy: but still, what do you think about the replacement? should be use test.nested instead? or with, but we'll have to use \ at the end of each line?13:02
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claudiubjohnthetubaguy: true13:02
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claudiubjohnthetubaguy: that would be a good alternative.13:03
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johnthetubaguyclaudiub: its a bigger patch, but at least its a bigger patch that will not make our eyes bleed13:03
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Expands python34 unit tests list  https://review.openstack.org/23194813:05
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add disallow-query-deleted-flavor-from-api  https://review.openstack.org/23252313:11
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Nuke EC2 API  https://review.openstack.org/23232513:15
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add cpu schedular priority config  https://review.openstack.org/19756713:23
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: rework membacking config to support future features  https://review.openstack.org/19756613:23
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: virt: add constraint to handle realtime policy  https://review.openstack.org/19756813:23
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add realtime support  https://review.openstack.org/19756913:23
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openstackgerritAlexander Schmidt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Libvirt: AIO mode for disk devices  https://review.openstack.org/23251413:28
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Expands python34 unit tests list  https://review.openstack.org/23194813:35
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces contextlib.nested with test.nested  https://review.openstack.org/23210813:35
alex_xumriedem: claudiub appreciate if you can take a look at this backport when you have time https://review.openstack.org/227176 thanks in advance!13:37
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mriedemalex_xu: after this call13:41
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openstackgerritMarkus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova-specs: Centralize Config Options  https://review.openstack.org/22794813:41
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alex_xumriedem: thanks13:44
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mriedemdanpb: there isn't a legend for the status values in the support matrix anywhere right? http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/support-matrix.html13:47
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mriedemdanpb: i know i've been confused by condition/choice/optional13:47
mriedemchoice means you have to have one impl of a given group of things, like console?13:48
mriedemoptional means it's, well, optional13:48
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danpbmriedem: its explained inthe code generator a bit better13:51
mriedemok, we should get that into the actual doc output13:51
danpbmriedem: if you click on an item in the index it shows you a bit more though eg  http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/support-matrix.html#storage_block_backend_iscsi13:51
danpbcondition(storage.block==complete)13:51
danpbIOW, that's say that support for feature is conditional on the driver claiming support for blck storage13:52
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danpband yes choice means the driver must provide at least one of the features in a group13:52
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dansmithmriedem: johnthetubaguy: This is in master now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232033/14:00
johnthetubaguymriedem: thanks for pushing on the release notes by the way!14:00
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johnthetubaguydansmith: sweet, thank you, I have pinged ttx to +W on stable14:01
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mriedemdansmith: looks fine, i don't have +2 there anyway14:01
dansmithoh14:02
dansmithAh, neither I14:02
mriedemonly release peeps have +2 on stable/liberty until we release liberty14:02
johnthetubaguyI think its the release team only at the moment14:02
johnthetubaguyyeah14:02
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dansmithokay14:02
johnthetubaguydims: if you get this first: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232033/ :)14:02
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dimsjohnthetubaguy: looking14:03
dimsjohnthetubaguy: apologies, i can only +1 that one (not enough karma)14:04
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johnthetubaguydims: ah, no worries14:04
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mriedemalex_xu: what was the docimpact on this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224438/14:05
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johnthetubaguymriedem: dansmith: danpb: any chance we are all free this afternoon to go through the summit submissions14:08
bauzasoh, there is a new merge-check pipeline ? http://status.openstack.org/zuul/14:08
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mriedemjohnthetubaguy: the google form?14:08
mriedemthere is the nova meeting later today too14:08
johnthetubaguymriedem: yeah, I have an etherpad with some notes and ideas on14:08
mriedemi'm free14:09
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: sure14:09
johnthetubaguyso this is the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-summit-suggestions14:09
johnthetubaguyat the very bottom, attempting to create a schedule, ish14:09
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bauzasalso "Queue lengths: 67 events,       31 results" ouch14:09
sdaguebauzas: my thing didn't work as expected, trying a new thing14:10
danpbjohnthetubaguy: as long as we're finished by 5pm BST i'd be ok14:10
bauzassdague: okay14:10
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johnthetubaguydanpb: sure thing14:11
johnthetubaguydanpb: mriedem: danpb: lets do it now if we are all available, I guess?14:12
mriedemlet me wrap up what i'm reviewing14:12
johnthetubaguysure thing14:12
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Converting nova.virt.hyperv to py3  https://review.openstack.org/23255414:16
mriedemalex_xu: +2 on that backport, but i'm not sure what the docimpact is on that change14:16
mriedemwhen someone puts a docimpact tag in a commit message, they should also provide a description of the doc impact with the tag, so it's not a mystery to the docs team when they get the bug that is auto-generated14:17
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: i'm your huck;leberry now14:17
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johnthetubaguymriedem: so I have tried a rough stab at a schedule, just to see what it looks like14:19
dansmithoh, we're doing it now14:20
openstackgerritTom proposed openstack/nova: added support for 'insecure' option to ironic section in nova.conf Closes-Bug: #1504033  https://review.openstack.org/23256014:20
openstackbug 1504033 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Insecure option missing in nova.conf section ironic" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1504033 - Assigned to Tom Patzig (tom-patzig)14:20
dansmith?14:20
mriedemdansmith: if you can14:20
dansmithmriedem: sounds like only if danpb danpb and you can14:20
mriedemi'm all in14:21
dansmithnow is less convenient for me, but I guess it's ok14:21
johnthetubaguydansmith: yeah, I can't use a tab key, would in 30 mins work better?14:21
johnthetubaguywell, lets try kick off I guess, if possible14:21
danpbi'm free now14:21
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dansmithjohnthetubaguy: not really, in 90 minutes would, but..14:21
dansmithyeah, whatever, just do it now14:21
johnthetubaguyOK14:21
johnthetubaguyso I am thinking lets chat now, go anyway and thinking about it more, then come back tomorrow/monday to follow up on things14:22
johnthetubaguyso I have been through the suggestions, and roughed up a schedule14:22
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johnthetubaguyso mriedem, good question, we have two gaps14:23
danpbwheres the link for etherpad14:23
mriedemhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-summit-suggestions14:23
johnthetubaguyso I think it could be a joing nova+cinder (using one of theres)14:23
danpbthanks14:23
johnthetubaguyyeah, thats the one, sorry14:23
johnthetubaguyso we have two gaps in our schedule14:24
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johnthetubaguyI have a presentation to do at those point, although I don't think thats why we have gaps, just decides where the gaps were14:24
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johnthetubaguybut we an use that for an ironic+nova and cinder+nova session in their tracks, if we fancy14:24
johnthetubaguybased on quick chat with those folks14:24
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mriedemi just want to make sure that there isn't a big nova session at the same time as the cinder cross project sessions14:25
mriedem*session14:25
mriedemb/c we'll want nova people in the cinder tihng14:25
johnthetubaguyyeah, we can make it look like its in both tracks in the conference schedule14:26
johnthetubaguylike we did for the neutron one last time I guess14:26
andreykurilinhi all! Does anybody know what is happened with nova jobs results(html reports become unreadable, example : http://logs.openstack.org/73/231473/2/check/gate-nova-python34/77b4b4b/testr_results.html.gz ) ?14:26
mriedemok, i'm not sure how all of that works out, but the nova + neutron thing worked well in YVR i thought14:26
mriedemas far as getting the right people in the same room anyway14:27
dansmithI don't feel like much came out of it though14:27
mriedemandreykurilin: probably a better question for the -infra or -qa channels14:27
mriedemdansmith: well, there were aspirations14:27
dansmithand it was standing room, which made it less design session-y14:27
mriedemdansmith: i remember there were items, mostly on the neutron team, that weren't executed14:27
mriedembut i don't remember what all of them were either, one was probably linuxbridge in the gate, which sc68cal worked on in liberty14:28
johnthetubaguyso I was thinking we agree the neutron vif lib plan, really, then follow up on the previous agreements I supose14:28
mriedemyeah the vif lib thing will be a whole session14:28
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danpbyep, that's a godo session in its own right14:28
johnthetubaguyOK, so I think we just make that most of the session, I am really just picking a time neutron doesn't have a session I guess14:28
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dansmithjohnthetubaguy: what is the nfv session?14:29
mriedemthat's what i was wondering14:29
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mriedemi'm guessing johnthetubaguy is getting pressure from the NFV people to have a session :)14:29
dansmithwell, I don't see it in the submission list14:29
danpbhaving a general neutron/nova session will jsut encourage everything to just turn up with no real focus14:29
mriedemthey have their own lobby14:29
dansmith(why is the submission list all struck out?)14:29
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johnthetubaguyhonestly, I am not sure, I just feel like asking for lots of testing, but it was in the submission14:29
danpbif we call it a VIF-lib session, we can at least ensure we targe the right subset of people14:29
danpbs/targe/target/14:30
johnthetubaguydansmith: they were just random notes, its all in the spreadsheet14:30
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: asking nfv people for testing isn't worth a session14:30
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: you mean the future of pci and sroiv, I see14:30
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: b/c it won't happen14:30
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danpbthis is a NFV related spec for sriov  support improvement https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212472/14:30
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mriedemleave that for friday imo14:30
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danpbthe real-time guest one is also NFV, but that specs already approved14:30
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danpbthere is also the guest device role tagging spec that's relevant for NFV  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195662/14:31
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dansmithjohnthetubaguy: okay, so the future of pci/sriov thing is worth a session I think14:31
johnthetubaguyyeah, lets leave that off, so I think some of this will be, go away and review the attached specs, and see if there is something that warrants a full session or not14:31
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mriedemso can we just call it the danpb + libvirt + nfv closet and send danpb there to hash it out? :)14:31
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* dansmith wishes we could just jump in a hangout to do this14:32
mriedemso let's do that14:32
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mriedemmy makeup is on14:32
johnthetubaguydansmith: thats a good idea, hangout?14:33
dansmithplease14:33
danpbfine with me14:33
johnthetubaguyis starting one14:33
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johnthetubaguyhttps://hangouts.google.com/call/gsfswp2bvzmvu7bj2b3l6n6iz4a14:34
mriedemi was going to point out there will be an oslo cross project session that will require cinder and nova people for the rootwrap thing, but that just might be something sdague can handle on his own as a rep for nova14:34
ndipanovthere's one more nfv one14:34
ndipanovhttps://review.openstack.org/21247214:34
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danpbargh, needs a browser plugin14:34
sdaguemriedem: where is that session?14:35
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mriedemsdague: it's not yet14:35
mriedemunless oslo has it14:35
mriedemdims: ^14:35
mriedemdims: is there an oslo summit session planned for the rootwrap thing? plugging14:35
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sdagueyeh, my only concern is conflicts, but sure, I can try to be in the middle of that14:36
sdaguemriedem: dammit man, you should be there to cover it :)14:36
mriedemoops14:36
sdagueout of curiosity, which core team members do we know aren't coming? mriedem / alaski_out / others?14:37
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sdaguebecause knowing that might be useful in knowing what sessions just aren't all that useful to have there14:37
sdagueand instead sort them some other way14:37
mriedemi haven't heard of anyone else not coming14:37
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mriedemoh jaypipes, hi14:39
mriedemjaypipes: maybe you want to jump on that hangout ^14:39
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces contextlib.nested with test.nested  https://review.openstack.org/23210814:40
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dimsmriedem: privsep is on the short list - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-oslo-summit-planning14:52
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mriedemdims: ok, i added sdague to that as interested party14:53
mriedemand hemnafk14:53
mriedemfor os-brick14:53
dimsthanks mriedem14:53
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Nuke EC2 API  https://review.openstack.org/23232514:58
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes .keys()[0] references for Python 3 in unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/23258515:07
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annegentlejohnthetubaguy: I'm going to merge the Compute API reference collapse, and then follow on with a .htaccess redirect. Sound good?15:11
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add notification for service status change  https://review.openstack.org/18235015:13
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gibimikal: Hi! I had to respin https://review.openstack.org/182350 due to the updated template, can I get your +2 back? Thanks!15:16
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova-specs: Remove shared storage flag in evacuate API  https://review.openstack.org/18303315:19
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openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Support the server side remote-console API changes  https://review.openstack.org/23014915:21
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openstackgerritAnna Babich proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Functional tests for os-extended-server-attributes (legacy and 2.3 microversion) have been added.  https://review.openstack.org/23260515:25
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add soft policies for server-group feature  https://review.openstack.org/21250415:26
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova-specs: Remove service management from nova-manage  https://review.openstack.org/23191815:36
bauzasmeh, TurboHipster seems just wedged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232241/15:37
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sc68calmriedem sdague johnthetubaguy - here was the list of agreed things that were going to be worked on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-nova-network15:38
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sdaguebauzas: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232511/ - shoud be good15:48
bauzassdague: okay, waiting the CI output :)15:48
bauzassdague: btw. thanks for working on that bug !15:49
bauzasmy roots are very basic re: devstack15:49
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hemnamriedem, do we have a cross project session about the rootwrap fun yet?15:49
sahiddanpb, ndipanov we should to remove this http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/virt/hardware.py#n319 limits should only be set by operator and so from flavor extraspec, no?15:49
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes Python 3 compatibility for filter results  https://review.openstack.org/23262015:50
mriedemhemna: tracked under privsep here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-oslo-summit-planning15:50
danpbsahid: no, we need that in the image too15:50
mriedemhemna: i took the liberty of added your name as a stakeholder15:50
danpbsahid: the flavour will override that if the flavour has limits set15:50
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hemnamriedem, ok coolio thanks.15:50
openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack/nova: Rearranges to create new Compute API Guide  https://review.openstack.org/23018615:51
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces contextlib.nested with test.nested  https://review.openstack.org/23210815:51
mriedemsc68cal: ok, looks like the top priority thing, linuxbridge test in the gate, was completed15:51
mriedemso that's good at least15:52
sc68calmriedem: #2 is in progress, I got the copy and will be pushing a patch to the networking guide15:52
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sahiddanpb: hum... it seems that image will override flavor here15:55
openstackgerritAnna Babich proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Functional tests for os-extended-server-attributes (legacy and 2.3 microversion) have been added  https://review.openstack.org/23260515:56
sahidi'm not talking about topology user is asking for, i'm talking about limits15:56
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sahiddanpb: oops... forget about me :)15:58
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openstackgerritCale Rath proposed openstack/nova: Purge soft-deleted instances cmd  https://review.openstack.org/20375116:09
markus_zbauzas: Maybe you can have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1504196 I'm not sure if this is a valid bug.16:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1504196 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "aggregate instance extra specs filter incorrectly filter out qualified host" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Baodong (Robert) Li (baoli)16:11
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bauzasmarkus_z: looking16:14
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bauzasmarkus_z: well16:15
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bauzasmarkus_z: the main problem is that the flavor extra specs are just freeform16:17
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bauzasmarkus_z: so we already have a lot of string checks withing the filters16:17
bauzasmarkus_z: but that's not really cool16:17
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bauzasmarkus_z: I'd rather prefer to think about how to have those specs more robust16:17
bauzasbut that's mid-term16:18
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Print number of rows archived per table in db archive_deleted_rows  https://review.openstack.org/23225216:18
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Make archive_deleted_rows_for_table private  https://review.openstack.org/23210416:18
bauzasmarkus_z: so, yup, this is a bug, but IMHO not really nice16:18
markus_zbauzas: Yeah, the use of freeform entries surprised me when I've seen them the first time.16:18
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bauzasmarkus_z: the problem is that N filters are looking at the same strings16:19
bauzasmarkus_z: like https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/filters/compute_capabilities_filter.py#L97 and https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/filters/aggregate_instance_extra_specs.py#L4216:21
bauzasand those two are trampling themselves16:22
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markus_zbauzas: I don't understand it. Why is the number of filters a problem?16:22
bauzasmarkus_z: because they look at the same stuff16:23
bauzasmarkus_z: so they're basically assuming that the other doesn't exist16:23
markus_zbauzas: I would assume that's a good thing, isn't it?16:23
bauzasmarkus_z: that depends16:23
bauzasmarkus_z: since it's freeform, you can put what you want16:23
bauzasbut then the UX is just really bad16:23
bauzasthat's IMHO exactly the same problem with the hints16:24
bauzastheir semantics are not provided by the scheduler16:24
bauzasbut at least, one hint = one filter16:24
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bauzasin-tree of course16:24
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bauzasanyone could just write a filter that would trample the semantics of extra_specs keys or hints by just providing a new out-of-tree filter which lookup those diffreently16:25
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markus_zRight, but the HostState is the object which provides the information which is used to filter per host, right? So it is the limiting factor here.16:26
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ttxtagging nova rc2, last patch merged. Yell now if I shouldn't16:27
dansmithttx: cool, you got the one I wanted16:28
dansmithttx: I'm good with it16:28
dansmithttx: johnthetubaguy is in a meeting now I think, but maybe saying his name will invoke his presence16:28
ttxheh, yes. We were pretty clear that we should be good to go once that last one merges16:28
dansmithcool16:29
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ndipanovdansmith, so what I was getting at with the test-and set comment - the zk version of the API could just say - don't update the min_version node unless it's larger than my version atomically and you get min and max for free kind of16:32
dansmithndipanov: yeah, I got it after it sank in a little16:33
ndipanovmemcached has that too16:33
openstackgerritAnna Babich proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Functional tests for os-extended-server-attributes  https://review.openstack.org/23260516:33
dansmithndipanov: it has that with operators?16:34
ndipanovand redis as we established already does that automatically16:34
openstackgerritAnna Babich proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Functional tests for os-extended-server-attributes  https://review.openstack.org/23260516:34
ndipanovtbh I'm not sure memchaced might be a problem16:34
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Converting nova.virt.hyperv to py3  https://review.openstack.org/23255416:34
mriedemccarmack: i added you to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232605/ since you were just looking at this16:35
dansmithndipanov: well, if we have the incremental approach, then we could calculate the min for memcache based on the DB, but use zk to do it if we're on zk16:36
ndipanovdansmith, yar - I'd just be happier with at least a plan to move to a consistent implementation going forward16:37
dansmithndipanov: I really think if we just move to the service object as the api, with options to mix in liveness calculation we can do quite well in the short term16:38
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dansmithconsistency ftw16:38
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ndipanovyeah that's probably not a bad direction16:39
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Print number of rows archived per table in db archive_deleted_rows  https://review.openstack.org/23225216:45
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Make archive_deleted_rows_for_table private  https://review.openstack.org/23210416:45
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Sync cliutils from oslo-incubator  https://review.openstack.org/23265316:45
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openstackgerritAndrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: [functional-tests] Check all tests on latest  https://review.openstack.org/23267717:19
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openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova-specs: Pause VM during live migration  https://review.openstack.org/22904017:30
markus_zdansmith: There is a topic "rename evacuate to resurrect" at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-nova-instance-ha-evacuate-resize17:30
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dansmithmarkus_z: what you say is true17:31
markus_zdansmith: Is this already ongoing? Because I have a todo from the midcycle with my name on it which I'd like to start.17:31
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dansmithmarkus_z: no, I'm actually not in favor of the rename17:32
dansmithmarkus_z: my name is near those lines for different reasons17:32
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markus_zdansmith: Why are you against the rename?17:33
dansmithmarkus_z: I just don't think it's worth it17:33
dansmithmarkus_z: I agree it's a better name, but I just don't think it's worth the trouble and confusion17:33
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markus_zdansmith: OK, if I can spent the time on other items, that's fine for me.17:36
dansmithmarkus_z: well, others think it is worth it, I just don't17:37
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markus_zdansmith: I'll ask around. Thanks.17:38
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mriedemhe must have left to go ask around17:40
mriedemdansmith: this is stable branch, want to looksee, it was a hot button thing last week https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230591/17:40
mriedemwe were supposed to get that into stable and release as 2.30.217:40
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dansmithmriedem: hmm, not sure I'm up on the version stuff enough to do that.. I'll +W if you can sucker sdague into +2 :)17:41
mriedemi've been passively aggressively hinting to sdague to do that17:41
dansmithmriedem: he's not good with subtle17:41
mriedemsdague: +2 that ^17:41
rhagarty__hello - pulled nova master and still get this devstack issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1503975. Suggestions?17:42
openstackLaunchpad bug 1503975 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "service consoleauth does not start: "no such option: consoleauth_topic"" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Sylvain Bauza (sylvain-bauza)17:42
dansmithbetter17:42
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ccarmackmriedem: for bug http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html#listServerGroups, I don't see an all_projects parameter on http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html#listServerGroups17:47
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mriedemccarmack: did you mean to link to a bug there?17:48
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ccarmackhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/150304217:48
openstackLaunchpad bug 1503042 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Need functional API samples test for os-server-groups GET with all_projects parameter" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Chuck Carmack (chuckcarmack75)17:48
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mriedemso, the api docs are generally sorely lacking17:49
mriedemthey are in the nova tree though17:49
mriedemso that could be a separate change if you wanted to do that17:49
ccarmackmriedem: is a doc bug also?17:49
mriedemcould be a separate bug17:49
mriedemyeah17:49
mriedemall_projects is not in nova api docs for os-server-groups17:49
mriedemtag with documentation17:49
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mriedemsdague: the api docs in the nova tree, are those auto-generated? i always thought those were manual in a docs repo17:54
mriedemannegentle: ^17:54
annegentlemriedem: I'm working on a patch to publish to developer.openstack.org17:54
mriedemi'm probably thinking of the api-site repo17:54
annegentlemriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23018617:55
annegentlemriedem: there are api reference documents in api-site, yes, our plan is to start generating swagger instead of maintaining wadl17:55
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mriedemok, yeah, found this http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/api-site/tree/api-ref/src/docbkx/ch_compute-v2.1.xml17:55
annegentlemriedem: I was going to give a talk with russellsim about this migration at the summit, but he had a family emergency. The spec is here:17:56
annegentlemriedem: specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/liberty/api-site.html17:56
mriedemso nova's api docs are still in api-site for the time being?17:56
annegentlemriedem: yes. We have a patch in play now to consolidate17:56
mriedemok17:56
annegentlemriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229546/17:57
annegentlemriedem: I haven't checked in with alex this week though and missed the nova api team meeting,17:57
annegentlewould like to hear their ongoing work as well17:57
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mriedemccarmack: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bug/150425518:00
openstackLaunchpad bug 1504255 in openstack-api-site "all_projects is not in nova api docs for os-server-groups" [Undecided,New]18:00
sajeeshping johnthetubaguy18:01
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mriedemccarmack: this was the api-site spec http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/liberty/api-site.html18:03
ccarmackannegentle: is the plan to automate API doc generation using swagger?18:03
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annegentleccarmack: Hell. Yes.18:04
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mriedemhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/autogenerate-api-reference18:05
annegentleccarmack: really there are about 2 ways to get the info, tempest logs and python routes through the given framework.18:05
annegentlethat spec above has more details18:05
annegentleccarmack: this repo also migrates https://github.com/russell/fairy-slipper18:05
annegentleso I guess 3 ways18:05
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annegentleccarmack: feel free to ask qs18:08
ccarmackannegentle: thanks for the info, just learning this stuff18:08
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Fixes Python 3 compatibility for filter results  https://review.openstack.org/23262018:10
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bauzassooooo18:14
bauzasTurboHipster seems still bad18:14
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mriedemi feel this is a pretty easy -1 from all nova cores https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214021/18:16
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mriedembauzas: looks ok according to this http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova18:17
bauzasmriedem: yup18:18
bauzasmriedem: I checked that too18:18
bauzasbut18:18
bauzashttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/232241/218:18
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bauzas2 rechecks, none of them happy18:18
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rhagarty__bauzas, any ideas on how to get around this issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1503975 - Seeing this error while stacking...18:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1503975 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "service consoleauth does not start: "no such option: consoleauth_topic"" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Sylvain Bauza (sylvain-bauza)18:20
bauzasrhagarty__: since my change isn't yet merged, you need to cherry-pick the SHA18:20
bauzasrhagarty__: git fetch ssh://sbauza@review.openstack.org:29418/openstack/nova refs/changes/67/232367/4 && git cherry-pick FETCH_HEAD18:21
bauzass/sbauza/your_gerrit_id18:21
rhagarty__bauzas, thanks - will try that out18:21
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Catch InvalidBDMEphemeralSize during boot instance  https://review.openstack.org/23250518:22
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Handle Invalid exception during boot process  https://review.openstack.org/23250618:22
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sdaguebauzas: http://logs.openstack.org/11/232511/2/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/1ee16b6/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-10-08_16_57_10_03218:42
sdaguen-cauth isn't turned on in a regular job18:42
openstackgerritJohn L. Villalovos proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Detect if LOG.logger.disabled has been set  https://review.openstack.org/23270418:42
sdaguewhich, you know, is part of why it was never discovered18:42
bauzassdague: yup, I see18:43
sdagueso, the devstack patch should now blow up if we were trying to run it18:44
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bauzassdague: yup, it's not failing18:44
sdagueright, which I was seriously confused by :)18:44
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sdagueand hence dug some more18:44
bauzassdague: yes, thanks to the log, I saw there was no n-consoleauth18:45
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bauzasrhagarty__: still there ?18:46
bauzasrhagarty__: you told your devstack is failing, could you please post your localrc file?18:46
bauzasin paste.openstack.org18:46
bauzasrhagarty__: also, could you please post the devstack log ?18:46
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bauzassdague: so, if n-consoleauth is not provided in the gate, I feel we should try to think how to check it in the nova tree18:48
sdaguebauzas: sure18:48
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bauzas(my thoughts including the possibly other services on the same case)18:49
sdaguethis is where we probably need that devstack functional test space18:49
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bauzasagreed18:49
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sdaguewe could also do something like enable all the nova services for the novaclient functional test18:49
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sdaguebecause we trimmed down the starting services by default in devstack to get headroom18:50
bauzassdague: sure, I don't want to add those services in the default devstack18:50
bauzassdague: because of the footprint18:50
bauzasfor something not really checked18:50
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bauzasmy point was that I thought it was run by default but if not, then we should find some nova job running instead18:51
bauzassdague: so you said the novaclient functional test ? lemme look18:51
doffm+1 for a full size testing devstack. I currently have a patch up for testing consoles in novaclient. Just tests for 400 error, rather than console urls.18:52
openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack/nova: Rearranges to create new Compute API Guide  https://review.openstack.org/23018618:52
vilobhmm11dansmith : ping18:54
vilobhmm11if you have some time would like to discuss on the servicegroup spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222423/18:55
vilobhmm11on the questions you posted the other day18:55
dansmithvilobhmm11: give me about ten minutes18:57
openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack/nova: Rearranges to create new Compute API Guide  https://review.openstack.org/23018618:57
vilobhmm11dansmith : sure18:58
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mriedemwoot, 2 specs reviewed in like an hour18:59
mriedemi feel so productive18:59
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dansmithvilobhmm11: okay go19:03
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vilobhmm11dansmith : thanks for the review…many useful point came through the review…i will re-write it in a better fashion..19:04
vilobhmm11regarding maintaining state in db and zk19:04
vilobhmm11esp for rpc timeout or rpc brooken stuff19:04
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dansmithyep19:04
vilobhmm11would it be nice to keep is_up = {rpc_broken stuff in  db} + { liveliness in zk}19:05
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dansmithso jaypipes and I and others were talking about this this morning19:05
mriedembauzas: yeah i'm seeing t-h failures too19:05
bauzasmriedem: well, I'm running 1.5s/h19:06
vilobhmm11dansmith : sorry missed the discussion anything significant takeaway from that discussion19:06
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bauzasmriedem: yeah for t-h19:06
bauzasmriedem: and indeed the CI website doesn't say it's bad for some reason19:06
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mriedemwho's watching the watchers?!19:06
bauzaseh19:07
dansmithvilobhmm11: I think there is consensus that the api we use for doing anything with services is the Service object19:07
dansmithvilobhmm11: and that we should extend that object to include an is_up property, which is calculated from whatever methods are enabled19:07
dansmithvilobhmm11: so that may be just the DB, or DB+zk19:07
dansmiththen we can make many things more efficient,19:07
bauzascatching the convo but +1 with dansmith19:08
dansmithlike listing services and getting their is_up as part of the batch, instead of having to list services, and then probe each service for "is it up?"19:08
bauzasthat's what I tried to explain in a design pattern way :D19:08
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vilobhmm11dansmith : ok so liveliness can be managed by CONF.SG_drivier19:10
vilobhmm11so is_up will monitor 2 things19:10
vilobhmm11#1. rpc # liveliness19:11
vilobhmm11liveliness can be managed by CONF.SG_drivier and #1. rpc status can be stored in db ?19:11
vilobhmm11is the something you are heading towards ?19:11
dansmithvilobhmm11: I'm not sure what you're asking19:12
openstackgerritDiana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Replace N block_device_mapping queries with 1  https://review.openstack.org/22996419:12
vilobhmm11dansmith : since you are saying you discussed about moving is_up as a method in nova.objects.Service19:13
dansmithnot a method, an attribute19:13
dansmitha field19:13
vilobhmm11ok19:13
dansmithnot much difference, but attribute is pre-calculated, a method would be post19:13
vilobhmm11sure…so how will it be updated as in is_up = {rpc_broken stuff computed not sure baout this ??} + { liveliness in zk} if zk happens to be the SG driver19:14
vilobhmm11dansmith : ^^19:14
dansmithvilobhmm11: right now it will be "db_service.updated_at < 120 && zk.is_up()"19:15
vilobhmm11ok that makes sense19:15
dansmithand then we may try to optimize the rpc heartbeat to something else19:16
dansmithto make it more lightweight19:16
vilobhmm11ok19:16
vilobhmm11so will refine the spec to add these details… #1. Liveliness managed by resp SG driver #2. is_up will be computed based of the information stored in SG driver + DB ( needed to get RPC status)19:17
vilobhmm11information => liveliness information19:17
dansmithyeah, I'm not sure that's how I would word #1, but write it up in the spec and we'll see19:18
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vilobhmm11dansmith : sure thanks! will try to add details about how zk/mc will recognize is_up…19:19
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bauzasdansmith: so the plan you have in mind with the SG refactoring would be to have the computes updating the new Service.up field periodically?19:48
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: use NoDBTestCase for KeypairPolicyTest  https://review.openstack.org/23272119:48
bauzasdansmith: I was thinking of just a remotable method19:48
bauzasdansmith: so I'm pretty interested in dumping your brain19:48
dansmithbauzas: for optimization you mean?19:48
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bauzasdansmith: well, re: the above discussion, how we should land the liveness information19:49
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dansmithbauzas: well, right now we just have Service look at the DB and zk (if configured) when we're constructing the object, considering the updated_at timer and the zk information to determine is_up=True19:52
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mikalMorning19:52
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bauzasdansmith: well atm, we only have a SG API which needs to have some service info to know which ZK name to check IIUC19:53
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dansmithbauzas: we just need some interface that can ask tooz "for whatever driver you have configured, is service.binary:service.host up?" right?19:55
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bauzasdansmith: yup, hence my thinking about a method in the Service object19:56
bauzasdansmith: but your comment about an attribute for is_up just made me confusing19:56
bauzashence my harassing you :)19:56
bauzasme*19:57
mikalNova meeting in a couple of minutes?19:58
dansmithmikal: no?19:58
mikalOh wait, timezone change!19:58
mikalIts in an hour, yeah?19:58
dansmithbauzas: I think I'm missing something.. which service are you thinking about is trying to find out if a service is up, when you're thinking we need a method?19:59
dansmithmikal: yes19:59
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bauzasdansmith: okay, I'm confused but also confusing19:59
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bauzasdansmith: so, I thought that the liveness of a specific service could be provided as an extra method bounded to the related Service NovaObject needed to be checked20:00
bauzasdansmith: which would call ZK or toor or whatever pluggable instead of calling the DB20:01
bauzasdansmith: but your comment about rabbit problems is valid20:01
dansmithbauzas: it would look at both, db and rabbit (for now)20:01
dansmither, db and zk20:01
rhagarty__bauzas, sorry... too late. I restacked with your patch and it worked.20:01
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ccarmackmriedem:  If I create a new python file, do I need to add a copyright?   If so, what is the standard copyright?20:02
openstackgerritDiana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Replace N block_device_mapping queries with 1  https://review.openstack.org/22996420:02
bauzasdansmith: yup, I was writing to say that20:02
mriedemccarmack: we have an internal wiki for that20:02
mriedemsec20:02
bauzasdansmith: so I was thinking of a Service.is_up(self) remotable method which would then check *both* the updated_at field and the pluggable liveness interface, whatever it is20:02
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dansmithbauzas: but who needs it to be remotable?20:03
bauzasdansmith: oh right20:03
mriedemccarmack: like this if you're ibm https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227815/3/elastic_recheck/tests/unit/cmd/test_uncategorized_fails.py20:04
bauzasdansmith: I was originally thinking of getting the state of updated_at by getting the db value, hence the remotable20:04
dansmithI mean, we can, I just don't know who needs a remotable method for it20:04
bauzasdansmith: literally, is_up being decorated as a remotable20:04
bauzasdansmith: because computes could just do Service.is_up() - in the RT for example20:05
dansmithbauzas: do computes need to know if they're up?20:05
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bauzasdansmith: well, we're detaching the state of the service from the compute details, so in theory, it could be a call yes20:06
dansmithbauzas: but we /tell/ the scheduler,db,etc if we're up, why do we need to ask the db if we're  up?20:06
bauzasin particular with eg. ironic where multiple RTs (b/c multiple computes) couldn't know the service status20:06
bauzasdansmith: that's a good question20:07
bauzasdansmith: sec, just verifying who updates the liveness20:07
bauzasif this is the compute manager, or RT or others20:08
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dansmithbauzas: it's the nova/service code that has a periodic for updating our service health20:08
bauzasoh right20:08
dansmithbauzas: either way, if you need to know it in RT for some reason (I don't know why you would) then you'd not want to make a remotable call all the way back to conductor and db just to find out :)20:08
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bauzasdansmith: yeah you're right20:09
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bauzasdansmith: conceptually, it's a roundtrip20:09
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dansmithnot just conceptually :)20:09
dansmithbut I still don't know why you'd need to know that in RT20:09
dansmithif you're running RT, then your service record is being updated for you, you can assume you're up, right? :)20:10
bauzasthat's what happens with you wait for the nova meeting and just think loud :)20:10
bauzasyeah, I was just thinking of the service information we check when updating the stats20:10
dansmithheh20:10
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bauzasbut that's not a liveness check20:10
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bauzasjust an existence check20:10
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Catch InvalidBDMEphemeralSize during boot instance  https://review.openstack.org/23250520:10
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Handle Invalid exception during boot process  https://review.openstack.org/23250620:10
mriedemctrath: ccarmack: doffm: feel free to chime in, this took me at least a half hour to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227948/20:11
bauzasdoublechecking tho20:11
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bauzasok, nvm, we actually even removed the service check in the RT, I forgot20:13
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces contextlib.nested with test.nested  https://review.openstack.org/23210820:14
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mriedemi don't think this requires a microversion change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230986/20:30
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mriedemi challenge others to prove me wrong!20:30
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mtreinishmriedem: I believe you are correct, isnt there something in devref about that?20:31
mriedemhttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/api_microversion_dev.html#f220:31
mriedemyup20:31
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dansmithso it was a trick?20:32
mriedemmy challenge?20:32
mriedemi was just surprised jichenjc pushed a spec for it20:32
mriedemwe had talked about this extensively for like a week awhile back, which led to the agreement and devref updates20:33
mriedemspecifically b/c of his proposed changes20:33
dansmithheh20:33
mriedembut, it's microversion policy so wtf knows, it changes every other week20:33
dansmithheh20:34
mriedemffs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173985/20:34
mriedemwe merged that20:34
mriedemit's basically the same thing20:34
dansmithwell, then the spec is easy!20:35
dansmithProposed change: nothing20:35
mriedempropose change: confuse the sh*t out of everyone20:36
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mriedemi guess i'm not -2 b/c i have to wait for others to sanity check it20:36
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mriedemsame for that on a few specs20:36
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ccarmackmriedem: are you going to trash me on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228908/?20:38
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mriedemyes20:38
ccarmackcool20:38
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mriedemstevemar_: how does osc handle specs/feature changes?20:50
mriedemjust a bp in launchpad?20:50
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mikalMeeting in 5 minutes? (attempt two)20:55
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bauzas+120:55
dansmithmikal: no?20:55
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mriedemccarmack: there, -120:59
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Vekhehe :)20:59
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mriedemomfg21:00
mriedemVek:21:00
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Vekmriedem: yes?21:01
mriedemnothing21:01
mriedemjust21:01
mriedemshock and awe21:01
Vekheh :)  Been meaning to attend a nova meeting for a while, just kept doing something else.  Today, I got around to it :)21:02
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Vekhehe :)21:09
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stevemar_mriedem: yes, just that21:09
stevemar_mriedem: bp, no spec (we're not that cool)21:10
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Vekis there an alternative?  (probably something to discuss separate from this meeting, though...)21:11
mriedemstevemar_: does https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228908/ count?21:11
stevemar_this just adding a description field to a vm?21:12
stevemar_mriedem: ^21:12
mriedemstevemar_: the descirption field is in the db, that exposes the api bits to change it and set it21:13
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mriedemccarmack: added the osc bits in the spec too21:13
mriedemnot sure if they should be there or not, so i pinged you21:13
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ccarmackmriedem:  what is osc?21:15
mriedemopenstackclient21:15
stevemar_mriedem: yeah, that's fine, i'm assuming novaclient won't blow up if it's not provided21:15
stevemar_so we can handle that as a bug in osc21:15
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stevemar_if we had a blueprint for every option or resource i'd pull my hair out21:15
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Vekbut the docs team would probably kiss you on the lips.21:16
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mriedemgraphic21:17
ccarmackI admit to not following this:  handle as a bug in osc?21:18
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stevemar_ccarmack: handle the option to set the description in openstackclient21:19
ccarmackstevemar_: why can't I change osc under my spec -- different project?21:20
stevemar_ccarmack: yessir21:20
ccarmackshould I write a companion spec for osc?21:21
mriedemno21:22
mriedemit's trivial21:22
mriedemjust push the osc change once the nova api change is landed21:22
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mriedemhowever, i don't know how osc handles microversions21:24
mriedemi thought it was all just pass through to novaclient21:24
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Vekmriedem: is it showing the problem?21:31
mriedem?21:31
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Vekmriedem: bah, misdirected; meant that to go to openstack-nova21:31
mriedemyou're in openstack-nova21:32
Veks/openstack-nova/openstack-meeting/21:32
VekI'm having one of *those* days %)21:32
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mriedemVek: i haven't seen you say anythign in there21:33
mriedemyour irc skillz are rusty21:33
Vekanswers that question :)  Yeah, so it would seem.  Oh, well, I can still imitate a server with the best of them!  :)21:34
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openstackgerritDiana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Replace N block_device_mapping queries with 1  https://review.openstack.org/22996422:31
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Nuke EC2 API  https://review.openstack.org/23232522:32
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Nuke EC2 API  https://review.openstack.org/23232522:33
anishdims: goodbye ec2 support ?22:34
dimsanish: don't know yet. just trying to see what it would take22:35
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