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| tbh | HI, can anyone review the bp https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215207/ ? | 05:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/232899 | 05:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/232362 | 06:37 |
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| AJaeger | nova cores, could you import translations, please? This is a large import from the liberty translation efforts, would be nice to keep liberty and master in sync... https://review.openstack.org/232362 | 07:09 |
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| bauzas | good morning Nova | 07:29 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: I added a note in the meeting agenda not to go through all the specless blueprints one by one again | 08:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | that seems largely pointless right? | 08:21 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: well, mikal did that last night :) | 08:22 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: but sure we can discuss that in Tokyo | 08:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I forgot to mention that to him | 08:22 |
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| bauwser | honestly, some discussions need more than 1 min | 08:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | no need to waste time discussing it, just what we agreed last week, the message didn't get through | 08:22 |
| bauwser | like I needed to remember some changes that I saw wrt a specless BP | 08:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | so the longer the discussion, the more likely it will require a spec, basically | 08:23 |
| bauwser | agreed | 08:23 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: just one point about notification BPs | 08:25 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: so this is trivial to add some notifications | 08:25 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: but given the operators would like to know anytime we're changing a notification, why not asking for a spec ? | 08:26 |
| bauwser | because it's a contract we have | 08:26 |
| bauwser | tbc, just for updating an already notication | 08:26 |
| bauwser | meh | 08:26 |
| bauwser | for updating an already there* notification* | 08:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: well, I am tempted to block those behind the notification versioning spec | 08:27 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: that was my 2nd point | 08:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: once its versioned, and real, we can require a spec, right now its just random like log messages | 08:27 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: given that someone is working on the notifications spec, it will probably need some spec for modifying the objects | 08:27 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: well, fair enough to tell that, I agree | 08:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: we can push back on the code when we see it, if it turns out to be a bad idea | 08:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Bartosz Fic proposed openstack/nova: Block migrate with attached volumes copies volumes to themselves https://review.openstack.org/227278 | 08:29 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: agreed | 08:29 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: and we can ask the proposer to wait for the notifications objectification if the spec is approved and the owner currently working on it | 08:30 |
| bauwser | or we can be more agile and just make sure that the objectification guy is aware of any change to the notifications :) | 08:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: it follows the current pattern, I think thats fine | 08:30 |
| bauwser | yup | 08:30 |
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| abhishekk | johnthetubaguy: hi you around? | 08:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | abhishekk: I am | 08:36 |
| abhishekk | could you please give your opinion about https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1416132 | 08:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1416132 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "_get_instance_disk_info fails to read files from NFS due to permissions" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Eric Harney (eharney) | 08:37 |
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| abhishekk | johnthetubaguy: this bug is blocker for cinder feature https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/nfs-snapshots | 08:37 |
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| abhishekk | johnthetubaguy: for reference, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-August/072976.html | 08:39 |
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| johnthetubaguy | abhishekk: I think its something to go through with ndipanov, I think we talked through this in one of the nova meetings, if I remember correctly? | 08:39 |
| abhishekk | johnthetubaguy: yes, 1st October meeting | 08:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | abhishekk: sorry, unsure how I can help, what are we stuck on right now? | 08:41 |
| abhishekk | johnthetubaguy: this is about which solution to adopt, ndipanov has proposed two solutions on the bug | 08:41 |
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| abhishekk | johnthetubaguy: I will try to catch ndipanov on this, but meantime if you have any idea please comment on the bug | 08:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | abhishekk: I thought we chose a preferred one in the meeting? I think will will not no if they work till they are tried | 08:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | abhishekk: there was one that created lots of DB queries, did an alternative approach avoid that? | 08:45 |
| abhishekk | johnthetubaguy: in meeting we haven't reached any conclusion | 08:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | abhishekk: OK, which approaches have been attempted? | 08:46 |
| abhishekk | johnthetubaguy: the one which is generating lots of DB queries | 08:47 |
| abhishekk | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221162/ | 08:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | abhishekk: OK, on that patch nikola says do the alternative he discussed, has that been attempted? | 08:48 |
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| abhishekk | johnthetubaguy: no that is not attempted yet | 08:48 |
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| abhishekk | alternative is join-load block device in a single query | 08:49 |
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| johnthetubaguy | abhishekk: so I have to run away for a little bit now I am afraid, I think the best bet is to get in touch with nikola, he has much better context on that bit of the code than me | 08:49 |
| abhishekk | johnthetubaguy: sure, thank you for your time | 08:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | abhishekk: so we wouldn't want to do it like that I think, we can lazy load in the object, and pre-load it only for cases we know its always needed, etc | 08:50 |
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| abhishekk | johnthetubaguy: right | 08:51 |
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| johnthetubaguy | abhishekk: have a look at what we did for flavor in the instance object, I have a feeling we could do the same for BDM, but I would love to know what ndipanov and/or dansmith thinking about that first, as they will have better intuition about that than I do | 08:51 |
| abhishekk | johnthetubaguy: thank you for pointer | 08:52 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: mmm, love the "WHAT IS THIS?" in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-summit-suggestions | 09:02 |
| bauwser | :) | 09:02 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: need some better punchline ? | 09:03 |
| AJaeger | nova cores, could you import translations, please? This is a large import from the liberty translation efforts, would be nice to keep liberty and master in sync... https://review.openstack.org/232362 | 09:03 |
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| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: the "merged since" in the "trivial hit bug" section in the mitaka priorities etherpad, how should that be used? | 09:38 |
| markus_z | Just incrementing the counter when one from the list above gets merged? | 09:38 |
| lxsli | markus_z: yep | 09:38 |
| markus_z | lxsli: Ah, cool, thanks :) | 09:39 |
| lxsli | markus_z: :) | 09:39 |
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| markus_z | lxsli: What does the dates represent? That aren't milestones, are they? | 09:41 |
| markus_z | Are they just arbitrarily chosen? | 09:41 |
| lxsli | markus_z: they're a bit scattershot tbh | 09:41 |
| lxsli | markus_z: I added 1st Oct as that's approx when we cut over to the mitaka etherpad | 09:42 |
| lxsli | markus_z: we might have also added a cutover at the midcycle. We don't have a process for when to cut over | 09:42 |
| lxsli | markus_z: we considered keeping a full log of merged patches; or a per-monkey counter; but this was the lowest-overhead way to measure whether the process was being used and hence useful to cores | 09:43 |
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| markus_z | lxsli: Yeah, that's what I wanted to ask next :) OK. I know it and keep an eye one it. Thanks! | 09:44 |
| markus_z | *know it now | 09:44 |
| lxsli | markus_z: glad to see that reviews are disappearing from the list again, I'll try and fill it back up! | 09:45 |
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| Venkatesh_ | please review the following patch | 10:36 |
| Venkatesh_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212016/ | 10:36 |
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| lxsli | markus_z: dims: FYI added a TPM dashboard with multiple sections | 10:41 |
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| markus_z | lxsli: I get an error "line 0:-1 mismatched input '<EOF>' expecting ')'" when I click on that link http://ow.ly/TcLsF | 10:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: verify cpu bw policy capability for host https://review.openstack.org/224726 | 11:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: that trivial bug thing was just a cut and paste from the old one | 11:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: feel free to delete the bits that don't make sense, I am flexible, I think some of that was just historic stats sort of thing | 11:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: ah, so I plan on catching jay about that scheduler one, I want to make sure we define whats in each of the three scheduler related sessions | 11:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: we have two sessions on the resource modeling, resource pools, etc, just want to make sure we define what the other session is! | 11:20 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: sure | 11:20 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: I'm fine | 11:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: I am guessing we have quite a lot to go through, so maybe we need them all? | 11:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Return HTTPForbidden if over quota https://review.openstack.org/180469 | 11:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: devref:Don't suggest decorate private method https://review.openstack.org/233022 | 11:51 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: sorry was afk, but yeah would like to discuss on your Parallel scheduler backlog spec | 12:03 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: that's the one missing from the exisiting sessions IMHO | 12:04 |
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| markus_z | The the most loved patch set I've ever seen https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232367/ :) | 12:07 |
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| alex_xu | markus_z: a lot of +1... | 12:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mikhail Feoktistov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: virtuozzo instance rescue mode support https://review.openstack.org/217679 | 12:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Mikhail Feoktistov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Getting the correct disk size for the instance based on VZ container https://review.openstack.org/222567 | 12:20 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: so I dicussed with sdague on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232367/ and I think instead of providing a functional or unittest for just testing the call to the service, we should just have a devstack job running all services | 12:25 |
| sdague | bauwser: I think that job is actually probably the python-novaclient functional test job | 12:25 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: bauwser: thats does the trick for me | 12:26 |
| bauwser | sdague: the job you're saying is running for any client change ? | 12:26 |
| bauwser | sdague: that's something I'm a bit torn, because I'd like to see it running for any nova change | 12:26 |
| sdague | bauwser: it's something that's likely to happen not all that often | 12:27 |
| bauwser | unless I misunderstood | 12:27 |
| sdague | and the client job should be testing more of the nova services than tempest | 12:27 |
| bauwser | sdague: sure, but if the client job is -1, we would have to bisect the problem | 12:27 |
| bauwser | sdague: for your last point, I agree | 12:28 |
| sdague | I think doing a bisect once a cycle is probably better than an extra 100 rechecks for a job that's not testing anything else | 12:28 |
| sdague | this is all about trade offs | 12:28 |
| bauwser | that's understandable | 12:28 |
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| sdague | anyway, it's a thing we could do right now, it would have flagged this kind of issue in the future | 12:29 |
| bauwser | sdague: I'm just looking at the client functional test | 12:29 |
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| bauwser | tbc, you speaking of gate-novaclient-dsvm-functional right? | 12:30 |
| sdague | ys | 12:31 |
| sdague | yes | 12:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add change-return-code-api-20x.rst https://review.openstack.org/227274 | 12:32 |
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| sdague | bauwser: so add bits here to ensure all nova services are started - https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/69a4b62ad6a1306b9fdf05a751e9f1fe24f44cb3/jenkins/jobs/nova.yaml#L23 | 12:34 |
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| bauwser | sdague: I was just looking at that definition :) | 12:34 |
| sdague | :) | 12:34 |
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| bauwser | sdague: sounds pretty trivial | 12:35 |
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| bauwser | sdague: I just need to get the devstack service names, that's it :) | 12:35 |
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| sdague | yeh | 12:42 |
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| dimsum__ | dansmith: latest o.vo master breaks tests in nova master - http://paste.openstack.org/show/475867/ | 12:43 |
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| bauwser | dimsum__: mmm, I remember a change about that, hold on | 12:47 |
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| bauwser | I mean the isinstance(obj, Instance) | 12:48 |
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| lxsli | markus_z: that's weird, what browser are you using please? | 12:48 |
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| markus_z | lxsli: Firefox v38.3 | 12:49 |
| dr3662 | Hoe to get "list physical hosts" | 12:49 |
| lxsli | dr3662: please see topic | 12:49 |
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| bauwser | dimsum__: oh man, I see 38 hits on isinstance([^,]+, objects.Instance) | 12:50 |
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| dr3662 | thank you! | 12:50 |
| bauwser | dimsum__: which means all of them need to be changed | 12:50 |
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| bauwser | dimsum__: to be isinstance(obj, instance_obj._BaseInstance) | 12:50 |
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| bauwser | dimsum__: happy with filing a bug ? | 12:50 |
| dimsum__ | bauwser: ack, let me file a but | 12:51 |
| dimsum__ | bug | 12:51 |
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| lxsli | markus_z: works for me in FF 41.0.1 | 12:52 |
| lxsli | and chromium | 12:53 |
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| bauwser | dimsum__: FYI http://paste.openstack.org/show/475869/ | 12:54 |
| dimsum__ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1504534 | 12:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1504534 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "o.vo master + nova master = unit tests fail" [Undecided,New] | 12:54 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: dimsum__: so we are about to drop instance v1, which would make that simpler, maybe, but I suspect we need to backport that one, regardless | 12:54 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: well, what if a kilo compute is providing a former instance v1 ? | 12:56 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: so that the backport could rehydrate it into an InstanceV1 ? | 12:56 |
| bauwser | that said, I'm not sure we would still support that case | 12:56 |
| bauwser | we should probably await dansmith here for the next 30 or 60 mins :) | 12:57 |
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| bauwser | dimsum__: oops http://paste.openstack.org/show/475871/ | 12:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Blueprint to use libvirt storage pools https://review.openstack.org/232045 | 13:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Blueprint to migrate libvirt volumes https://review.openstack.org/232053 | 13:04 |
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| bauwser | sdague: meh, me stuck http://logs.openstack.org/77/232677/1/check/gate-novaclient-dsvm-functional/0a1d0ff/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-10-09_09_42_26_640 | 13:05 |
| bauwser | ENABLED_SERVICES+=,n-api,n-cpu,n-net,n-cond,n-sch,n-novnc,n-crt,n-cauth | 13:05 |
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| bauwser | wtf? | 13:05 |
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| bauwser | sdague: and http://logs.openstack.org/77/232677/1/check/gate-novaclient-dsvm-functional/0a1d0ff/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-10-09_09_57_46_571 | 13:06 |
| bauwser | so the n-consoleauth is started... | 13:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: wasn't that what we mentioned yesterday about because the gate doesn't use screen there is no check to see if that service is running, or something like that? | 13:07 |
| sdague | bauwser: no it isn't | 13:07 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: yup, but sdague's change is fixing that | 13:07 |
| bauwser | sdague: orly? | 13:07 |
| bauwser | sdague: missing something then | 13:07 |
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| sdague | + is_service_enabled n-cauth | 13:08 |
| sdague | 2015-10-09 09:57:46.573 | + return 1 | 13:08 |
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| sdague | which means, it's not enabled | 13:08 |
| sdague | so it doesn't ever run it | 13:08 |
| sdague | bauwser: also, I'm not fixing it :) I was just explaining it | 13:09 |
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| bauwser | oooooh | 13:12 |
| bauwser | sdague: so there are 2 ENABLED_SERVICES calls | 13:12 |
| bauwser | ENABLED_SERVICES=c-api,c-bak,c-sch,c-vol,ceilometer-acentral,ceilometer-acompute,ceilometer-alarm-evaluator,ceilometer-alarm-notifier,ceilometer-anotification,ceilometer-api,ceilometer-collector,cinder,dstat,g-api,g-reg,horizon,key,mysql,n-api,n-cond,n-cpu,n-crt,n-net,n-obj,n-sch,rabbit,s-account,s-container,s-object,s-proxy | 13:12 |
| bauwser | oops | 13:12 |
| bauwser | 2015-10-09 09:42:26.640 | ++ ENABLED_SERVICES+=,n-api,n-cpu,n-net,n-cond,n-sch,n-novnc,n-crt,n-cauth | 13:12 |
| bauwser | and then the above one | 13:12 |
| bauwser | which doesn't include n-cauth | 13:12 |
| bauwser | (and which wedges the already defined servcies) | 13:13 |
| lxsli | bauwser: turns out openstackclient does support JSON; `service list` for example inherits from cliff.lister.Lister, which uses a cliff formatter, of which one may be JSON | 13:14 |
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| bauwser | lxsli: good to know | 13:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Blueprint to migrate libvirt volumes https://review.openstack.org/232053 | 13:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Blueprint to migrate libvirt volumes https://review.openstack.org/232053 | 13:17 |
| bauwser | sdague: so I'm puzzled | 13:17 |
| bauwser | sdague: I really wonder from where comes the ENABLED_SERVICES=stuff | 13:17 |
| bauwser | I mean I can see the localrc sourcing | 13:18 |
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| sdague | bauwser: that's a fall through block | 13:19 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Use SpawnIsSynchronousFixture in most unit tests https://review.openstack.org/230953 | 13:20 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Replace fake_utils by using Fixture https://review.openstack.org/230954 | 13:20 |
| sdague | bauwser: https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/d6c3c73c48a61e3cfe574c4e3265ad8fc863e95e/stackrc#L59-L73 | 13:20 |
| sdague | you have to back track to the source | 13:20 |
| sdague | ENABLED_SERVICES is passed from devstack-gate | 13:20 |
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| sdague | you can see a few lines later where it is overwritten | 13:21 |
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| sdague | 2015-10-09 09:42:26.640 | +++ ENABLED_SERVICES=c-api,c-bak,c-sch,c-vol,ceilometer-acentral,ceilometer-acompute,ceilometer-alarm-evaluator,ceilometer-alarm-notifier,ceilometer-anotification,ceilometer-api,ceilometer-collector,cinder,dstat,g-api,g-reg,horizon,key,mysql,n-api,n-cond,n-cpu,n-crt,n-net,n-obj,n-sch,rabbit,s-account,s-container,s-object,s-proxy | 13:22 |
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| bauwser | sdague: yup, that piece of code was missing to me https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/devstack-vm-gate.sh#L190-L222 | 13:24 |
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| markus_z | lxsli: You're right, chromium shows it correctly. Must be my old version of Firefox. | 13:30 |
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| lxsli | markus_z: does it look nice to you? | 13:32 |
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| markus_z | lxsli: The categories of that query is based on the votings, so I'm not sure how that fits to the trivial patch process. | 13:32 |
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| markus_z | lxsli: When gerrit provides a query for patch size or custom labels or something like that, then we can create a good dashboard, I think. | 13:34 |
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| markus_z | lxsli: AFAIK one of the newer versions of gerrit provides labels. | 13:35 |
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| markus_z | lxsli: But the query is a good first filter to reduce the amount of potential trivial patches. | 13:38 |
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| lxsli | markus_z: Gerrit 2.9 provides a "delta" filter which will be very useful to cut out overlarge patches | 13:40 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: superdan: johnthetubaguy: i think i'm going to approve this specless bp since i asked them to create it, it's pretty trivial https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/filter-nova-manage-vm-list | 13:41 |
| lxsli | markus_z: the sections are organised so we can quickly sweep for trivial bugs that already have a +2 and get them over the line | 13:41 |
| mriedem | allows filtering vm's through nova-manage list by status | 13:41 |
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| lxsli | markus_z: with increasing effort required for things that only have +1 and the rest; I tried to pick section headings that encouraged people to tackle hard (IE +0 or -1'd) reviews sometimes | 13:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexander Schmidt proposed openstack/nova-specs: WIP libvirt: iothreads for disk devices https://review.openstack.org/230968 | 13:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add a code-review guideline document https://review.openstack.org/204653 | 13:49 |
| dansmith | mriedem: you wanna either amend or stack on top of this ^^ with your config help text stuff? | 13:49 |
| mriedem | markus_z: ^ | 13:49 |
| mriedem | i will defer to markus | 13:49 |
| markus_z | mriedem: yepp, reading | 13:50 |
| dansmith | since that has been around for a while and I've pointed at the unmerged review in the past, | 13:50 |
| dansmith | I'd like to go ahead and land that sucker | 13:50 |
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| markus_z | dansmith: sure, I'll put my 2 cents about config options and architecture on top of it. | 13:54 |
| dansmith | markus_z: perfect | 13:54 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: ah, sweet, I should review this | 13:55 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: it's just a start | 13:55 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: a start is good, I guess we should link into the infra guide thing / project guide? | 13:56 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: I am not sure its the most awesome ever in its current state, this is the one I guess: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#peer-review | 13:56 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: yeah, it can't really expand there, so I think we need a separate checklist | 13:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: +1 for our own list | 13:57 |
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| markus_z | The infra guide explains the general flow, which is fine. So I'm ok to put the nova specific checklist into the nova docs. | 13:58 |
| mriedem | dansmith: made my -1 nice and clear | 13:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: this is that working doc for a guide I had in the wiki, although its a different angle, I should add that dependent on your change I guess: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Mentoring#Why_do_code_reviews_if_I_am_not_in_nova-core.3F | 13:58 |
| mriedem | dansmith: btw, how rude, superdan | 13:58 |
| mriedem | get your tights on | 13:58 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: are you ok with me approving this bp? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/filter-nova-manage-vm-list | 13:59 |
| dansmith | mriedem: my apologies | 13:59 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: sorry I was half way through my reply, that looks fine to me | 13:59 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexander Schmidt proposed openstack/nova-specs: WIP libvirt: iothreads for disk devices https://review.openstack.org/230968 | 14:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: in that spec etherpad I have a list of all the fields I normally update when approving the BPs, just noticed the ones after the meeting yesterday had a few fields not updates, keep meaning to catch up with mikal about that | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | ok, good, because i was going to blame mikal | 14:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexander Schmidt proposed openstack/nova-specs: WIP libvirt: iothreads for disk devices https://review.openstack.org/230968 | 14:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova: WIP: remove project_id enforcement in url https://review.openstack.org/233076 | 14:05 |
| mriedem | i typically fill out all of the fields in a bp when approving it b/c i like to fill out forms | 14:05 |
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| * markus_z smells sarcasm... | 14:06 | |
| mriedem | nope | 14:06 |
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| * markus_z smells even more sarcasm... | 14:06 | |
| markus_z | ;) | 14:06 |
| mriedem | maybe open a window | 14:07 |
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| markus_z | At least I have one :D | 14:07 |
| andrearosa | I am looking at the check_instance_state decorator and it seems to me that it is always used to check just the vm_state and never used for the task_state. am I reading it right? | 14:07 |
| mriedem | andrearosa: it checks both | 14:08 |
| mriedem | the delete API uses it | 14:09 |
| raorn | hi | 14:09 |
| bauwser | sdague: any chance you could point me out where https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/ad6c5a28cd84b9cd315b4c95464496bc775f999f/devstack-vm-gate.sh#L190-L228 is running in http://logs.openstack.org/77/232677/1/check/gate-novaclient-dsvm-functional/0a1d0ff/logs/ ? | 14:09 |
| raorn | please, someone, take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226274/ | 14:09 |
| kashyap | tristanC: Hi, you have time to address the feedback on this CVE bug? - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209627/ | 14:09 |
| bauwser | sdague: because I don't see OVERRIDE_ENABLED_SERVICES set on the job | 14:09 |
| kashyap | tristanC: Seems like the test needs to be reworked a little bit, maybe you're already working on it | 14:09 |
| sdague | bauwser: it's not set | 14:09 |
| bauwser | sdague: agreed so it goes to the else statement | 14:10 |
| tristanC | kashyap: hi | 14:10 |
| sdague | right, so you hit line 203 | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | raorn: that one is in my queue | 14:10 |
| sdague | and it's computed from the test-matrix | 14:10 |
| andrearosa | mriedem: thanks, looking at the delete API | 14:11 |
| bauwser | sdague: okay, I'm seeing https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/ad6c5a28cd84b9cd315b4c95464496bc775f999f/devstack-vm-gate.sh#L225-L226 | 14:11 |
| bauwser | sdague: I'll provide a change | 14:11 |
| bauwser | sdague: by adding the n-cauth | 14:11 |
| sdague | right, if ENABLED_SERVICES is fully set in the job, that works | 14:11 |
| mriedem | andrearosa: actually reboot is a better example https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L2364 | 14:11 |
| bauwser | sorry if I bumped you with that silly question, I missed the L225 check | 14:12 |
| sdague | yep, no worries | 14:12 |
| tristanC | kashyap: well first patch was lgtm, but then I've been asked to add a test, and finally it got a -1 without help to fix the test | 14:13 |
| tristanC | kashyap: should I re-submit the first patch set ? | 14:13 |
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| kashyap | tristanC: I'd let it get some eyes from other experienced revieweres, maybe mriedem has some time to take a glance at it? | 14:14 |
| kashyap | tristanC: The core patch looks good to me, fwiw. | 14:15 |
| kashyap | Using resource limits to limit the RAM/CPU. | 14:15 |
| andrearosa | mriedem: thank you I am missed it because of grep inside the editor, my fault. Sorry | 14:15 |
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| mriedem | kashyap: you might want pixelbeat to peek at that one | 14:16 |
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| mriedem | i'm not experienced in that part of the code | 14:16 |
| kashyap | mriedem: Oh, right | 14:16 |
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| kashyap | If he has time, sure. He's quite familiar with that area as well. | 14:16 |
| kashyap | pixelbeat: Context is here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossa/+bug/1449062 | 14:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1449062 in Glance "qemu-img calls need to be restricted by ulimit (CVE-2015-5162)" [High,In progress] - Assigned to nikhil komawar (nikhil-komawar) | 14:17 |
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| tristanC | kashyap: thanks for bringing that up :-) | 14:19 |
| kashyap | tristanC: No worries. Slowly catching up with some bugs after some travel. | 14:19 |
| bauwser | sdague: thanks for your help, I just provided https://review.openstack.org/233086 | 14:20 |
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| sdague | cool, I'll take a look in a minute | 14:20 |
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| tristanC | pixelbeat: imo, the benefit to functional test preexec_fn ulimits does not worth the effort to have a solid test without mocking too much. Thus I'd like to submit another change without the proposed test. | 14:29 |
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| pixelbeat | +1 | 14:29 |
| tristanC | alright, I can do that now | 14:30 |
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| raorn | mriedem: cool, thanks | 14:31 |
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| mriedem | raorn: comments inline | 14:32 |
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| pixelbeat | tristanC, BTW I'm a bit worried about specifying hardcoded limits for RAM and CPU. If qemu should never need more than 1G, why does it allocate more than 1G? Also I didn't see it detailed in the bug how CPU usage was impact. Could one malform an image that causes qemu-img to spin the CPU? Again should that not be fixedin qemu-img. Not a huge objection to the patch, it's just seems strange to me | 14:33 |
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| superdan | tristanC: do you need someone to pick up and rewrite those tests? I just reviewed them and I don't think they're reasonable | 14:36 |
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| tristanC | pixelbeat: we assumed a carefully crafted image could cause qemu-img to allocate more than 1G as well as use too much cpu resources | 14:36 |
| superdan | pixelbeat: agreed, the arbitrary limits are problematic IMHO | 14:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Baodong (Robert) Li proposed openstack/nova: aggregate_instance_extra_specs should look at its own keys https://review.openstack.org/233095 | 14:36 |
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| tristanC | I used the limit proposed by danpb in the bug report, it's sane default to avoid qemu-img abuse | 14:37 |
| superdan | hmm | 14:37 |
| kashyap | pixelbeat: That's the patch that DanB proposed as a POC - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/209227350/0001-virt-restrict-resource-usage-of-qemu-img-info.patch | 14:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Mikhail Feoktistov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: virtuozzo instance resize support https://review.openstack.org/182257 | 14:38 |
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| kashyap | superdan: Rich Jones did (of libguestfs) did all the fuzzing testing, I asked him the question, maybe he'll pop in here to respond when he sees my ping | 14:38 |
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| kashyap | s/fuzzing/fuzz/ | 14:38 |
| superdan | kashyap: yeah, well, he might not know that we shouldn't do that kind of thing in our unit tests | 14:38 |
| kashyap | superdan: Yeah, I just noticed your review comments | 14:39 |
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| mkovacik | hello folks, I've git-cloned devstack today and ran into this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1504540 is there by chance some workaround already? | 14:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1504540 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "n-cauth failed in devstack NoSuchOptError consoleauth_topic" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:42 |
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| superdan | tristanC: you need a unit test for that little resource function you added too | 14:45 |
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| dtantsur | mkovacik, maybe https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/e7ce27c483ec1de4ae5f29ef7fca64a95446c039 fixes it? | 14:46 |
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| mkovacik | dtantsur, thx I'll look | 14:47 |
| tristanC | superdan: is it ok to fork a new process during unit test (in order to not apply prlimit to main process) ? | 14:47 |
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| kashyap | rwmjones: Hi there, that's the review in question -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209627/ | 14:47 |
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| tristanC | or should I mock setrlimit and make sure the little resource function correctly call setrlimit ? | 14:48 |
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| kashyap | rwmjones: pixelbeat was asking "could one malform an image that causes qemu-img to spin the CPU" | 14:48 |
| rwmjones | I don't see how to expand the comments in that page, but anyway: | 14:49 |
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| rwmjones | I found images that consume a lot of CPU time, up to about 14 seconds IIRC | 14:49 |
| kashyap | rwmjones: You have to login to review.o.o | 14:49 |
| rwmjones | but I didn't find one which looped indefintely | 14:49 |
| superdan | tristanC: no | 14:49 |
| rwmjones | however, fairly sure if you ran afl long enough, it would find all sorts | 14:49 |
| superdan | tristanC: mock and verify | 14:49 |
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| pixelbeat | did those 14s ones also use lots of RAM? I.E. would RAM limitation suffice | 14:50 |
| tristanC | superdan: oki doc, I'll have a look in a few hours | 14:50 |
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| rwmjones | pixelbeat: I'd have to go and have a look at them all again; there were ones which used up to 14 seconds, and ones which used up to about 4GB IIRC, but I can't remember if there was an image that did both | 14:51 |
| rwmjones | but remember these are only the images that afl found, in a relatively short run | 14:51 |
| dimsum__ | superdan: seen this yet? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1504534 | 14:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1504534 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "o.vo master + nova master = unit tests fail" [Undecided,New] | 14:51 |
| rwmjones | it's entirely possible that there would be bad images that could do both, or run forever, or allocate arbitrary amounts of resources | 14:51 |
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| superdan | dimsum__: nope, will look in a sec | 14:52 |
| dimsum__ | superdan: thanks | 14:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add a code-review guideline document https://review.openstack.org/204653 | 14:53 |
| superdan | mriedem: bauwser: good feedback on that review doc, thanks a lot | 14:53 |
| rwmjones | pixelbeat: here you go actually: https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/1462949 .. 10-12 seconds of CPU time and 3-4 GB of heap | 14:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1462949 in QEMU "vmdk files cause qemu-img to consume lots of time and memory" [Undecided,New] | 14:54 |
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| mriedem | superdan: you can do the success hashtag now | 14:54 |
| superdan | mriedem: haha | 14:56 |
| bauwser | superdan: just one comment about attribute (, renames) | 14:56 |
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| bauwser | superdan: not only types | 14:56 |
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| pixelbeat | rwmjones, thx, so resources are correlated in the images identified _so far_. Since this is a safety net for nova, it was seen prudent to cap both resources | 14:57 |
| bauwser | anyone can tag a success ? oh man, I guess there is a review process behind ? :) | 14:57 |
| mriedem | bauwser: rename would fall under the exception noted in the doc right | 14:57 |
| rwmjones | pixelbeat: oh absolutely I think you should cap both | 14:57 |
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| mriedem | bauwser: as in "create a new attribute and deprecate the old one | 14:57 |
| bauwser | mriedem: yup, that's exactly identical to attribute typing | 14:57 |
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| bauwser | mriedem: yup that was my comment on PS2, but it was trampled by your own comments :p | 14:58 |
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| bauwser | poor comment... | 14:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Maxim Nestratov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: virtuozzo instance resize support https://review.openstack.org/182257 | 14:58 |
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| superdan | bauwser: you didn't start on a patch to fix the thing from dimsum__ above did you? | 15:05 |
| bauwser | superdan: not yet, I just ran a grep on my local repo | 15:06 |
| bauwser | superdan: I had a pastebin, lemme find it | 15:06 |
| superdan | bauwser: okay, I think I know what to change, just wanted to be sure | 15:06 |
| superdan | that I wasn't doubling | 15:06 |
| superdan | I had the change in a later patch, but we'll have to move it down | 15:06 |
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| bauwser | superdan: http://paste.openstack.org/show/475871/ | 15:07 |
| superdan | right | 15:07 |
| bauwser | superdan: that's not exactly 38 hits, a bit less since I jerked the grep | 15:07 |
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| bauwser | superdan: amending the bug report | 15:07 |
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| bauwser | superdan: so I remember some work from someone else, but AFAICT, those above assertions are not yet updated, right? | 15:09 |
| bauwser | superdan: I mean, there is no change related to those ? | 15:10 |
| mriedem | tristanC: replied to your question about leaking connection_info passwords here https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1492140/comments/10 | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1492140 in oslo.utils "consoleauth token displayed in log file" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Paul Carlton (paul-carlton2) | 15:10 |
| mriedem | tristanC: with at least 2 examples | 15:10 |
| mriedem | tristanC: maybe those aren't issues b/c they were debug logs | 15:11 |
| superdan | bauwser: nothing pending, right | 15:11 |
| mriedem | superdan: wouldn't mind picking your brain on a quick fix type thing, | 15:12 |
| mriedem | bdm.'connection_info': fields.StringField(nullable=True), | 15:12 |
| mriedem | that's a json string | 15:12 |
| mriedem | it can contain passwords | 15:12 |
| superdan | mriedem: unfortunately .. | 15:12 |
| mriedem | we had talked about a password field type at one point | 15:12 |
| mriedem | and i was going to write a spec for cinder (os-brick) to model connection_info as an object, and the admin_password would be a field in that of type PasswordField | 15:12 |
| superdan | mriedem: it'd be awesome if we could replace that field with something structured, which could have a password field | 15:12 |
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| superdan | mriedem: hell to the yes | 15:13 |
| bauwser | superdan: okay I need to drop the keyboard for a few hours, happy with writing some good stuff about that ? | 15:13 |
| mriedem | yeah, that's a long term thing, still need towrite that spec up | 15:13 |
| mriedem | superdan: short term, | 15:13 |
| mkovacik | dtantsur, ack, having rebased can't see the error anymore, thanks for the hint | 15:13 |
| superdan | bauwser: yes | 15:13 |
| bauwser | superdan: cool, ty | 15:13 |
| mriedem | i was thinking if we had a field type that extends StringField and overrides __repr__ and calls strutils.mask_password on it | 15:13 |
| mriedem | on it's internal value i mean | 15:13 |
| raorn | mriedem: replied. not sure if I want to do tests refactoring in this commit... | 15:13 |
| mriedem | like, SensitiveStringField or something | 15:13 |
| mriedem | although ^ sounds like a pussy | 15:14 |
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| mriedem | raorn: it's not refactoring | 15:14 |
| mriedem | it's new tests in a different class using mock | 15:14 |
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| mriedem | raorn: those tests are super simple | 15:14 |
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| superdan | mriedem: you mean make connection_info a SensitiveString field type? | 15:15 |
| mriedem | yeah | 15:15 |
| mriedem | so if we log a bdm object | 15:15 |
| superdan | but it would have to parse the json, no? | 15:15 |
| mriedem | it's repr'ed with that masked | 15:15 |
| mriedem | it's already stored serialized in the bdm object | 15:15 |
| mriedem | via the string field | 15:15 |
| mriedem | that's why it's not a DictType | 15:15 |
| superdan | right, but does mask_password know how to do that? | 15:16 |
| mriedem | mask_password would be used in __repr__ of SensitiveString | 15:16 |
| mriedem | b/c SensitiveString extends StringField | 15:16 |
| superdan | maybe we're crossing wires... | 15:16 |
| mriedem | so we just return mask_password(internal_str_value) | 15:16 |
| superdan | you mean literally s/String/SensitiveString/ on the BDM object, right? | 15:16 |
| mriedem | i can write something up to ovo quick | 15:17 |
| mriedem | yeah | 15:17 |
| mriedem | it's the same type except for it's impl of __repr__ | 15:17 |
| superdan | and then it will have repr do: return mask_string(self) right? | 15:17 |
| mriedem | yeah | 15:17 |
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| superdan | okay, so does this work? mask_string('{\'foo\':\'bar\',\'stuff\':\'asdf8323\'}') | 15:18 |
| mriedem | i can write up a patch to ovo quick to see what it'd look like | 15:18 |
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| mriedem | yeah | 15:18 |
| mriedem | see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219004/1/keystoneclient/session.py | 15:18 |
| superdan | does mask_string just return len(str)*'*' ? | 15:18 |
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| mriedem | examples :https://github.com/openstack/oslo.utils/blob/master/oslo_utils/tests/test_strutils.py#L272 | 15:19 |
| superdan | huh, okay, I just didn't think it was that smart | 15:20 |
| mriedem | lbragstad: wrote it | 15:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Tristan Cacqueray proposed openstack/nova: virt: Use preexec_fn to ulimit qemu-img info call https://review.openstack.org/209627 | 15:20 |
| mriedem | he's both dreamy and smart | 15:20 |
| superdan | mriedem: which is why | 15:20 |
| mriedem | haha | 15:20 |
| superdan | mriedem: so then yeah, should work | 15:20 |
| mriedem | ok | 15:20 |
| mriedem | i'll write something up quick | 15:20 |
| mriedem | i still want to write the os-brick spec for the ConnectionInfo object, i just feel it will suck my will to live to write and reply to review comments on it | 15:21 |
| mriedem | so i've procrastinated | 15:21 |
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| tristanC | mriedem: thanks for the reference, and your guess is correct, leaks in DEBUG log are not considered as a security defect (for now at least) | 15:22 |
| lbragstad | mriedem did i break something? | 15:22 |
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| mriedem | lbragstad: only my heart when you moved away | 15:22 |
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| superdan | mriedem: well, it would be good to fix that non-modeled bit of BDMs, but yeah | 15:30 |
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| mriedem | yeah i know, it's just not trivial | 15:30 |
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| mriedem | many cats will require herding | 15:30 |
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| superdan | indeed | 15:31 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, moving detach to those bdm classes would also be a nice thing to do in M | 15:33 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: the objects? | 15:33 |
| mriedem | well, nova.objects.bdm? | 15:33 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, nova.virt.block_device | 15:34 |
| mriedem | oh, i was confused. b/c detach isn't in there today | 15:34 |
| ndipanov | it's not | 15:34 |
| mriedem | yar | 15:34 |
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| mriedem | any specific reason or just to keep that impl closer to attach? | 15:35 |
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| ndipanov | well currently it's scattered around the manager code and easy to miss fixing all places when we fix one | 15:35 |
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| mriedem | it'd basically be moving _driver_detach_volume into nova.virt.block_device.DriverVolumeBlockDevice right? | 15:36 |
| mriedem | plus the terminate_connection call | 15:36 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, I don't think it's just that | 15:36 |
| ndipanov | yeah | 15:36 |
| ndipanov | would have to look | 15:36 |
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| mriedem | and detach, and maybe bdm.destroy() | 15:37 |
| ndipanov | plus make sure that is called in live migrate and resize and several other and not inlined | 15:37 |
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| ndipanov | I also started thinking about orchestrating cinder stuff from the conductor for boot | 15:37 |
| ndipanov | maybe I don't understand it properly but I am not sure that it would make a lot of difference from the user pov | 15:38 |
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| ndipanov | plus we currently do it holding the lock on resoruces which we can't do in the conductor | 15:39 |
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| ndipanov | which will open us up to even more races yay! <- mriedem | 15:39 |
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| mriedem | yeah i don't think doing it in conductor helps much | 15:39 |
| mriedem | i think people are looking for an api layer shim that does some orchestration | 15:39 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, API layer as in happening in the API service? | 15:40 |
| mriedem | like if the nova api request is source != volume, we do the cinder api volume create there and then pass it as source=volume to compute | 15:40 |
| ndipanov | i see | 15:40 |
| ndipanov | well we have the same problem | 15:40 |
| ndipanov | if the instance fails to boot - then what? | 15:41 |
| ndipanov | plus long running tasks in the API are a no-no | 15:41 |
| mriedem | yeah, it's a cast to create the volume | 15:41 |
| ndipanov | yeah | 15:41 |
| ndipanov | I see | 15:41 |
| ndipanov | still not sure that it's much better than that | 15:41 |
| mriedem | we wanted to avoid the NoValidHost from the failure in the compute node | 15:41 |
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| superdan | ndipanov: the goal there is to *not* orchestrate the cinder stuff, not move it, AFAIK | 15:43 |
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| mriedem | right i think the ultimate goal was to move it out of nova | 15:44 |
| mriedem | but i'm not entirely sure how you make that a seamless transition | 15:44 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, as in - if you want a volume create it yerself ? | 15:45 |
| superdan | yeah | 15:45 |
| ndipanov | lol OK | 15:45 |
| mriedem | yeah pretty much | 15:46 |
| mriedem | you create the volume and wait for it to be available, then pass that to nova boot | 15:46 |
| ndipanov | that's OK | 15:46 |
| mriedem | except many people hate that idea | 15:46 |
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| raildo | johnthetubaguy: ping, are you around? | 15:57 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, what is this about btw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229613/ | 16:02 |
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| sajeesh | ping johnthetubaguy | 16:04 |
| garyk | johnthetubaguy: can we discuss https://review.openstack.org/165750? | 16:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | garyk: we can, thats got the spec up for review now I guess? | 16:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | sajeesh: I am here | 16:05 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: see that whole series? | 16:06 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/kilo+topic:bug/1452224-kilo,n,z | 16:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | garyk: yep, I see it now | 16:06 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: i was trying to see if that would make test_stamp_pattern work on kilo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218355/ | 16:06 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: but alas it didn't help | 16:06 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: that test simply can't attach a volume and make the partition show up in kilo for whatever crazy reason | 16:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | garyk: all the summit planning and release RC2 stuff has kept me out of the gerrit recently, its on the list I am working through | 16:07 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, that is crazy | 16:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova-specs: Centralize Config Options https://review.openstack.org/227948 | 16:08 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: actually it's failing hte stable liberty job now too | 16:09 |
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| mriedem | but it was passing when liberty was master, which is bonkers | 16:09 |
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| garyk | johnthetubaguy: ok, thanks | 16:09 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: ^ i can't explain that | 16:09 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, hmmm | 16:09 |
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| mriedem | mtreinish: is there a flag in the tempest stable jobs that is set to drive me crazy? | 16:09 |
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| mriedem | if stable: make sure test_stamp_pattern fails | 16:10 |
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| mtreinish | mriedem: haha, I dunno | 16:10 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, and you say it fails to find the volume in the instance even thought the volume attaches properly right? | 16:10 |
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| mriedem | ndipanov: yup | 16:10 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/55/218355/13/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-liberty/64b068a/console.html.gz#_2015-09-30_22_21_00_761 | 16:11 |
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| mriedem | the cinder attach portion isn't actually doing anything but updating the cinder db | 16:11 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem, right, but attaching it in libvirt doesn't blow up | 16:12 |
| mriedem | nope | 16:12 |
| ndipanov | and we wait, but it never shows up and times out | 16:12 |
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| ndipanov | or we don't wait? | 16:12 |
| mriedem | right, we look for the partition to show up on the guest but it never does | 16:12 |
| mriedem | we wait for like 3 minutes i think | 16:12 |
| ndipanov | I see | 16:13 |
| mriedem | at one point we maybe though juno and kilo were failing due to a different cirros version from master (liberty) so we updated cirros in stable juno and kilo but that didn't help | 16:13 |
| dimsum__ | bauwser: superdan: should i hold off o.vo release monday? | 16:13 |
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| superdan | dimsum__: yeah, working on a fix now.. we need something in o.vo and nova, sadly | 16:14 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: here is where we attach in libvirt logs http://logs.openstack.org/55/218355/13/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-liberty/64b068a/logs/libvirt/libvirtd.txt.gz#_2015-09-30_22_13_22_906 | 16:14 |
| dimsum__ | superdan: ack thanks | 16:14 |
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| ndipanov | mriedem_lunch, libvirt logs could use a bit more data to correlate with specific requests | 16:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova-specs: Centralize Config Options https://review.openstack.org/227948 | 16:28 |
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| ndipanov | so superdan the thing we were discussing yesterday about servicegroups - the min and max for the version etc - that would only make sense if it was exposed by tooz not simply possible to do in ZK/memcached | 16:43 |
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| superdan | ndipanov: yeah | 16:44 |
| ndipanov | so overall we would have to do it your way I think | 16:44 |
| superdan | ndipanov: seems like the easiest thing, yeah | 16:45 |
| ndipanov | but system wide configuration like what are the current versions of objects needed - that totally makes sense to live in ZK if we were to use it | 16:45 |
| superdan | if we were to use it natively you mean? | 16:45 |
| ndipanov | well or expose via tooz | 16:45 |
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| ndipanov | but it makes sense to be a thing that servicegroup api exposes | 16:46 |
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| ndipanov | if servicegroop API == service object | 16:46 |
| ndipanov | than that's cool | 16:46 |
| superdan | yeah | 16:47 |
| ndipanov | just saying that moving that kind of data to zk is kind of what it's for, ao nor as far fetched | 16:47 |
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| markymark | superdan: my 2cents ^ | 16:52 |
| superdan | markymark: cool, will look thanks | 16:53 |
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| superdan | markymark: awesome.. I nitted out on a thing, but if you fix that I'm +2 so hard | 17:00 |
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| markymark | superdan: There it is | 17:04 |
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| superdan | markymark: whoomp there it is? | 17:05 |
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| markymark | hehe | 17:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tristan Cacqueray proposed openstack/nova: virt: Use preexec_fn to ulimit qemu-img info call https://review.openstack.org/209627 | 17:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: Fix Status-Line in HTTP response https://review.openstack.org/223235 | 17:21 |
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| leakypipes | sdague: I fixed the above patch from mhorban to address your concern. Lemme know if OK with you now. | 17:22 |
| leakypipes | (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223235/) | 17:22 |
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| johnthetubaguy | leakypipes: I had a quick question on the summit stuff, we have those two resource sessions down, and another scheduler priority session | 17:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | leakypipes: is that correct, or overkill? | 17:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | leakypipes: sorry, I should run, will catch you later | 17:30 |
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| leakypipes | johnthetubaguy: heh, OK :) | 17:31 |
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| leakypipes | johnthetubaguy: I will try to think on that over the weekend. | 17:32 |
| superdan | leakypipes: did you see I fixed up your patch yesterday? | 17:32 |
| superdan | for some test thing | 17:32 |
| AJaeger | nova team, I think annegentle's change for the new Compute API Guide is ready to merge, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230186/ | 17:32 |
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| johnthetubaguy | leakypipes: cools, something for next week, | 17:32 |
| leakypipes | superdan: yes, you rock, thank you. | 17:32 |
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| AJaeger | johnthetubaguy: Still time this week for it? Any quick questions? | 17:32 |
| superdan | leakypipes: cool | 17:32 |
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| johnthetubaguy | AJaeger: sorry, its 6.30 pm here, and I have to leave the house now | 17:33 |
| AJaeger | johnthetubaguy: have a great weekend! | 17:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | AJaeger: totally want to get to that change, I added it in the review etherpad we have under the API, to raise its profile | 17:34 |
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| AJaeger | johnthetubaguy: great, thanks! annegentle has the gating side nearly finished as well... | 17:34 |
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| annegentle | nearly! | 17:35 |
| annegentle | :) | 17:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | leakypipes: thanks, I guess the status stuff, and other bits of API stuff could use that time, but might want it after your two sessions, or something, anyways, yeah, a next week thing | 17:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | AJaeger: annegentle: awesome stuff :) | 17:35 |
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| annegentle | achieve escape velocity johnthetubaguy! Enjoy the weekend | 17:35 |
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| tbh | HI, can anyone review the bp https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215207/ ? | 17:37 |
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| leakypipes | sdague: "TNG" .. The next generation? | 17:38 |
| mspreitz_ | leakypipes: it has to be that | 17:39 |
| annegentle | leakypipes: I put that in a comment on that proposal for cross-project sessions :) | 17:40 |
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| superdan | leakypipes: yeah :) | 17:40 |
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| jroll | how much hate would it generate from y'all to add nodename as a param to https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/driver.py#L1456 | 17:43 |
| jroll | with regards to https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1503453 | 17:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1503453 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "unavailable ironic nodes being scheduled to" [Medium,Triaged] | 17:43 |
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| leakypipes | jroll: I'd rather add a separate method that implements the single getter versus that method, which is the "all getter" | 17:48 |
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| jroll | leakypipes: the resource tracker calls that, and RT runs per-node, right? | 17:50 |
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| leakypipes | jroll: I thought we eventually wanted to move away from having one RT per node... | 17:52 |
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| jroll | leakypipes: we do, but in the meantime we have this nasty bug because ironic doesn't track orphans at all, and it can't track orphans correctly without that method reporting usage per node | 17:53 |
| leakypipes | jroll: what is the difference between usage per instance and usage per node (for Ironic..) | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: DNM: Canary test the backporting from a liberty compute https://review.openstack.org/231486 | 17:54 |
| leakypipes | ? | 17:54 |
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| jroll | leakypipes: let me re-read this, maybe I missed something, I feel like if we return all instances there it will think the node has all of those instances on it | 17:55 |
| leakypipes | jroll: ? I thought a node in Ironic can only ever have a single instance on it? | 17:59 |
| jroll | leakypipes: right, but the driver doesn't know which node that method is asking about, that's the problem | 17:59 |
| jroll | leakypipes: because the *host* has all instances | 18:00 |
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| jroll | leakypipes: that's my proposal, add nodename as a parameter there, so the driver can know what it's talking about | 18:00 |
| jroll | and I just verified, the check for orphans does set(instances_for_node) - set(get_per_instance_usage().keys()) essentially | 18:01 |
| leakypipes | jroll: gotta link to that code for me? | 18:01 |
| leakypipes | jroll: sorry, just helps me get things straight in my head... | 18:01 |
| jroll | yeah, sec | 18:02 |
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| leakypipes | jroll: cheers | 18:03 |
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| jroll | leakypipes: so this is the main bit that updates resources available for a node https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py#L507-L525 | 18:04 |
| jroll | note that the top of that section gets instances for the node | 18:05 |
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| jroll | then the bottom part with the orphan finds orphans for that node (the set math I showed above) | 18:05 |
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| leakypipes | jroll: OK, sure, so what if get_instance_usage(), instead of a "node" parameter, has a list of instance_uuids parameter? Would that work for your use case? My thought here is to avoid adding "node" or "nodename" to any further API calls in order to eventually remove the need for it. | 18:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Feodor Tersin proposed openstack/nova: Give names to volumes during block device mapping https://review.openstack.org/213433 | 18:22 |
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| RomanStack | So when I want to attach a volume to an instance, my storage backend is called to do so and creates an object representing the host that will connect to the given volume. Where in openstack can I store this host object's id to use it on further volume attach calls? | 18:27 |
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| mriedem | RomanStack: probably a better question for the #openstack-cinder channel | 18:28 |
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| RomanStack | mriedem: I was thinking this would be something like host metadata and nova is in charge of hosts, no? | 18:29 |
| mriedem | not the volume hosts | 18:30 |
| RomanStack | mriedem: ah, thanks | 18:30 |
| mriedem | you would probably squirrel stuff away in the connection_info dict returned from os-initialize_connection | 18:30 |
| mriedem | which nova calls before attaching the volume | 18:30 |
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| RomanStack | mriedem: do you know who consumes that and if any of it can be persisted and queried later? | 18:35 |
| mriedem | the connection_info returned from cinder is stored in the nova.block_device_mapping table | 18:35 |
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| mriedem | and it's passed to the volume driver in nova that does the actual attach, which for libvirt is in the os-brick library for some of the volume types | 18:36 |
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| jroll | leakypipes: yeah, that seems like it could be sane, I'll look around and see what else that may affect | 18:38 |
| jroll | leakypipes: or I guess if that's optional, and we only pass it in there, we might be ok | 18:38 |
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| jroll | leakypipes: Madasi just pointed out to me that doing that would defeat the purpose. the goal is to find instances that are NOT in the list here: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py#L508 | 18:42 |
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| jroll | leakypipes: another alternative would be a driver method that tells the resource tracker, "really, I know what my resources are, don't modify the results I return" :) | 18:44 |
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| RomanStack | mriedem: Thanks, I looked at the block_device_mapping table and I think I can use it, my only concern is, could this table have records from two different physical machines (volume hosts) with different ip addresses? | 18:48 |
| mriedem | RomanStack: the bdm rows are per-volume and mapped to an instance | 18:49 |
| mriedem | so unless your volume is on multiple hosts, i don't think it's an issue | 18:49 |
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| RomanStack | mriedem: I think with multiattach that's a possibility right, a volume on an enterprise storage backend being connected to two different instances that reside on two different hosts with different IPs - the question is will these two records reside in the same table or not | 18:52 |
| mriedem | RomanStack: nova doesn't support multiattach yet | 18:52 |
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| RomanStack | mriedem: It actually can be two different volumes (I asked the wrong question). In the scenario of two different volumes on an enterprise storage backend being connected to two different instances that reside on two different hosts with different IPs - will these two records reside in the same table or no? | 18:57 |
| mriedem | same table yes | 18:58 |
| mriedem | every volume attached to a server instance in nova is in the nova.block_device_mapping table | 18:58 |
| RomanStack | mriedem: so it will potentially have two or more rows where device_name is /dev/vda for example? | 18:59 |
| mriedem | yes | 18:59 |
| RomanStack | mriedem: so then how would I query this table for the host that I'm interested in? | 19:00 |
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| mriedem | umm, you wouldn't | 19:00 |
| mriedem | you can get the volumes attached to an instance from the bdm table, and get the connection_info json blob from the bdm entry, and get the host from that | 19:01 |
| mriedem | if needed | 19:01 |
| mriedem | otherwise you need to look for something in the cinder database | 19:01 |
| mriedem | and you'd have to ask in the cinder channel | 19:01 |
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| RomanStack | mriedem: I'm trying to associate an ip address or a hostname with an arbitrary ID that the storage backend creates, so I guess this table wouldn't be a good place to do it | 19:02 |
| mriedem | RomanStack: i think this is what you're looking for https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/db/sqlalchemy/models.py#L225 | 19:02 |
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| mriedem | RomanStack: unless cinder has something else in their model for representing what you're looking for, you're probably talking about needing some data model changes in cinder | 19:05 |
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| bauwser | leakypipes: aloha | 19:05 |
| leakypipes | bauwser: bon soir | 19:06 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: I discussed earlier with johnthetubaguy about the nova sessions | 19:06 |
| bauwser | heh | 19:06 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: konbanwa | 19:06 |
| leakypipes | bauwser: practicing for Tokyo? :) | 19:07 |
| bauwser | yey | 19:07 |
| leakypipes | I | 19:07 |
| leakypipes | I'm not going to even try. I'll end up saying something like "I killed your cat" when I meant to say "hello, how are you" | 19:07 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: he he | 19:08 |
| superdan | I'm going to do a lot of pointing | 19:08 |
| mriedem | it might only be a rental | 19:08 |
| superdan | and grunting | 19:08 |
| mriedem | you can rent pets in japan | 19:08 |
| bauwser | yeah in a bar :) | 19:08 |
| mriedem | leakypipes: can rent some pugs while there | 19:08 |
| leakypipes | mriedem: been considering that. | 19:09 |
| mriedem | so he doesn't feel naked w/o the entourage | 19:09 |
| bauwser | lol | 19:09 |
| leakypipes | right. | 19:09 |
| bauwser | sooooo, it seems johnthetubaguy wanted to know your views about the main sched session :) | 19:09 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: ^ | 19:09 |
| leakypipes | bauwser: yeah, I would like to spend some time on Monday organizing that. | 19:10 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: coolness then | 19:10 |
| leakypipes | bauwser: I'll give it some thought this weekend. | 19:10 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: tbh, I just 'd like to see the Parallel scheduler dicussion being done, that's basically it | 19:10 |
| bauwser | re: johnthetubaguy's backlog spec | 19:10 |
| bauwser | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191914/ | 19:11 |
| bauwser | (not sure you saw that one btw.Ã ) | 19:11 |
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| leakypipes | bauwser: k. i will make sure the parallel scheduler stuff is on the back end of the session so we don't get to it. | 19:11 |
| superdan | +1000 | 19:11 |
| leakypipes | hehehehe | 19:11 |
| * leakypipes cackles with evil laughter | 19:11 | |
| bauwser | leakypipes: the other stuff given by don is not really needing to have a discussion IMHO | 19:11 |
| leakypipes | n0ano: around? | 19:12 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: given we'll be still working on the already agreed interfaces for Mitaka | 19:12 |
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| leakypipes | right. | 19:12 |
| bauwser | while the concurrent/parallel sched and other bits given in the other sessions need some consensus | 19:12 |
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| bauwser | leakypipes: saying that, I'm okay with the other sessions | 19:14 |
| bauwser | I just don't want to have people grumpy by having lots of sched sessions :D | 19:14 |
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| bauwser | so my proposal is good I think | 19:14 |
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| bauwser | just rename any naming of 'scheduler' by 'schedular' and you'll at least get some English peers liking those | 19:15 |
| bauwser | (when saying my proposal is good, I meant the below renaming ;) ) | 19:16 |
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| mriedem | browne1: do you know if the vmware ci skips all security group related tests? | 19:26 |
| leakypipes | mriedem: how else do you expect it to pass consistently? silly man... | 19:30 |
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| superdan | leakypipes: mriedem: between the two of you, you can turn this into a #success: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:review-guide,n,z | 19:31 |
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| mriedem | heh | 19:33 |
| * leakypipes -3s it. | 19:33 | |
| mriedem | i've done 25% of my job there | 19:33 |
| mriedem | s/my/the/ | 19:33 |
| mriedem | reviewing the config options one | 19:33 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Catch 3 InvalidBDM related exc when boot instance https://review.openstack.org/232505 | 19:34 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Handle Invalid exception during boot process https://review.openstack.org/232506 | 19:34 |
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| mriedem | superdan: kind of feel like someone should update those grammar nits in markus' chnage | 19:37 |
| mriedem | but i also don't care too much | 19:37 |
| superdan | mriedem: well, they fall in to the category of non-english-first brevity, so I could go either way | 19:37 |
| mriedem | we have worse docs in our devref for sure | 19:38 |
| mriedem | so my bar is low | 19:38 |
| superdan | I can fix it up if you think it's important.. I don't think it's confusing, | 19:38 |
| mriedem | i +2ed | 19:38 |
| superdan | but I'm a sucker for proper grammar | 19:38 |
| superdan | cool | 19:38 |
| mriedem | yeah, so i'm making you king solomon here | 19:39 |
| bauwser | lol "non-english-first brevity" | 19:39 |
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| bauwser | I'm not english native but I'm surely not brief :) | 19:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: virt: Use preexec_fn to ulimit qemu-img info call https://review.openstack.org/209627 | 19:40 |
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| superdan | bauwser: you know what I mean though rihgt? | 19:43 |
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| mriedem | i don't think i did | 19:44 |
| bauwser | brevity means short, nope? | 19:44 |
| bauwser | short talk? | 19:44 |
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| superdan | like, leaving out some words that a native would use, but that aren't really for anything other than smooth flow | 19:44 |
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| bauwser | like adding more words than necessary? | 19:45 |
| superdan | not than necessary | 19:45 |
| superdan | let me think up an example | 19:45 |
| mriedem | i did notice a shocking lack of the words 'merica, freedom, liberty, fried in there | 19:45 |
| superdan | haha | 19:45 |
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| bauwser | then I probably missed the point :) | 19:45 |
| mriedem | freedom to fry my guns in liberty cheese | 19:45 |
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| mriedem | it's understandable yes | 19:46 |
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| superdan | "Hints which services will consume"\ | 19:48 |
| superdan | "Hints as to which services will consume" | 19:48 |
| superdan | the first is clear enough, but a native would say the latter | 19:48 |
| leakypipes | superdan: reviewed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204653/ | 19:48 |
| bauwser | superdan: orly? | 19:48 |
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| leakypipes | superdan: native what? Lillipudlian? | 19:49 |
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| bauwser | superdan: oh man, I was not knowing that | 19:49 |
| superdan | leakypipes: speaker | 19:49 |
| leakypipes | superdan: BTW, in case it wasn't obvious, the first inline review comment was a joke. :) | 19:50 |
| leakypipes | didn't want you to think I was scolding you. | 19:50 |
| superdan | leakypipes: heh | 19:50 |
| bauwser | so, now I have to correct my accent *and* to add more words to my prose | 19:51 |
| tristanC | superdan: thanks for the review! should I update the commit message now ? (e.g., does it remove your +2 ?) | 19:51 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: mmm, 'field' as a word is a bit wrong to me | 19:51 |
| superdan | tristanC: I did it for you | 19:51 |
| superdan | bauwser: yeah | 19:51 |
| leakypipes | bauwser: um, the attribute's name is "fields". | 19:52 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: yup, but that's not the object, just the class | 19:52 |
| superdan | leakypipes: well, we're talking about the result | 19:52 |
| leakypipes | bauwser: other attributes don't need a version increment. | 19:52 |
| superdan | leakypipes: fields is the thing that you modify, but they turn into attributes | 19:52 |
| mriedem | i don't say i'm hitting instance.uuid field, i'm hitting the instance.uuid attribute | 19:52 |
| tristanC | superdan: great, one more question, can I propose backport after it lands ? | 19:52 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: I know | 19:52 |
| superdan | tristanC: yeah | 19:52 |
| tristanC | awesome, thanks again | 19:53 |
| superdan | Note to all from alaski_out: Luke Dean Laski born 9am this morning, 8lbs 1oz and 20 inches in length | 19:53 |
| leakypipes | mriedem, superdan, bauwser: the way it currently reads makes it sound like any addition or change of any attribute of the object should result in a version increment. | 19:53 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: but see, we can certainly call that 'field' to discriminate between what needs a bump and what's not, but that's not right | 19:53 |
| leakypipes | and that isn't true. | 19:53 |
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| superdan | leakypipes: yeah, I know, I'm going to try to say more things to make it more clear | 19:53 |
| leakypipes | superdan: k. as long as you keep it terse. | 19:53 |
| superdan | leakypipes: . | 19:54 |
| leakypipes | ty | 19:54 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: but on the other hand, naming something that doesn't exist in code is also confusing | 19:54 |
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| mriedem | just call it a property and make everyone unhappy equally | 19:54 |
| diana_clarke | alaski_out: hug congrats!!! | 19:54 |
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| diana_clarke | alaski_out: huge congrats!!! | 19:55 |
| bauwser | meh, I missed the news ! | 19:55 |
| leakypipes | alaski_out: w00t! a lasci 2.0 has arrived :) | 19:55 |
| leakypipes | alaski_out: grats, duder! :) | 19:55 |
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| bauwser | diana_clarke: how did you get the info ? :) | 19:56 |
| bauwser | just curious | 19:56 |
| bauwser | nvm | 19:56 |
| leakypipes | hehe | 19:56 |
| bauwser | I'm just blind | 19:56 |
| diana_clarke | bauwser: and I can't type ;) | 19:56 |
| bauwser | I was actually nitpicking on naming, that explains my blindness :) | 19:57 |
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| superdan | I guess I have to stop asking him if he's changed his mind yet | 19:59 |
| superdan | done deal | 19:59 |
| * mriedem must have missed something | 20:00 | |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Rabe proposed openstack/nova: Test commit https://review.openstack.org/233254 | 20:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: code-review guidelines: add checklist for config options https://review.openstack.org/233182 | 20:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add a code-review guideline document https://review.openstack.org/204653 | 20:13 |
| superdan | leakypipes: ^ | 20:13 |
| superdan | fixed the things you were right about, ignored the ones you were wrong about :P | 20:14 |
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| superdan | bauwser: heh, yak | 20:16 |
| leakypipes | superdan: so, you thought I was wrong about removing the sentence that begins with "There are some exceptional cases.."? | 20:16 |
| superdan | leakypipes: did you see mriedem's comment? | 20:16 |
| leakypipes | no... | 20:16 |
| superdan | leakypipes: it specifically came up in previous review, so I added it | 20:17 |
| leakypipes | lookin. | 20:17 |
| leakypipes | k | 20:17 |
| leakypipes | superdan: k, fair enough | 20:17 |
| leakypipes | superdan: +2 from me. | 20:18 |
| superdan | thanks | 20:18 |
| superdan | I hate writing prose | 20:18 |
| superdan | I prefer to write tests that catch people doing shit wrong :) | 20:18 |
| leakypipes | superdan: me too, I prefer to write everything in iambic pentameter. | 20:18 |
| superdan | leakypipes: that's why I never understand what you're saying.. just like 9th grade english class.. | 20:19 |
| leakypipes | indeed. | 20:19 |
| superdan | what rpc message through yonder exchange breaks? for it is conductor. He is the cluster leader and I am the cluster slave | 20:19 |
| leakypipes | superdan: http://foaas.com/shakespeare/superdan | 20:20 |
| superdan | haha | 20:20 |
| mriedem | darkness fills my icy soul http://southpark.cc.com/clips/151344/polaroid | 20:20 |
| leakypipes | hehe | 20:20 |
| superdan | mriedem: I have to disable my ad blocker to see that | 20:20 |
| superdan | which means, I'm not going to see it | 20:20 |
| mriedem | just agree on the popup | 20:21 |
| mriedem | just opt in | 20:21 |
| superdan | already did | 20:21 |
| mriedem | well you're going to miss skylar's sweet siren song | 20:21 |
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| superdan | I think i'll live | 20:21 |
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| superdan | nice.. "ha ha Charade you are" | 20:22 |
| * superdan caved | 20:22 | |
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| mriedem | also, anyone that had to live through will smith and 'wild wild west' circa 96 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6aleKfM_AA | 20:23 |
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| bauzas | weekend, folks | 20:29 |
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| RomanStack | mriedem: Thank you for your help, from my investigation it seems that some model changes are indeed required, or at least an addition of instance_id as an argument to initialize_connection | 21:16 |
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| ijw | The scheduler discussion on the list is interesting, but I'm not sure we're actually listening to each other... | 22:44 |
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| jroll | harlowja: I just hit your first reply on the nova-scheduler discussion, you win the game | 23:47 |
| harlowja | lol | 23:47 |
| harlowja | jroll i got excited, hahaha | 23:47 |
| jroll | :) | 23:48 |
| harlowja | imho that thread will result in hoepfully some innovation happening, if code shows up for some of the ideas that shows something got better/is better for a certain scale (or if the experiment showed it sucked thats ok to), then imho thats good enough, if its just discussion, then meh, useless | 23:48 |
| harlowja | thats my 2 cents, lol | 23:49 |
| jroll | yeah, totally agree | 23:49 |
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| harlowja | it'd be nice if openstack-infra had a scale testing 'center' | 23:50 |
| harlowja | where scale 'experiments' could be tested | 23:50 |
| harlowja | vs each company (or only some companies with the resources to have this) having there own to try ideas out | 23:50 |
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| harlowja | that'd be cool i think | 23:50 |
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| harlowja | maybe thats trystack.org ha | 23:50 |
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| jroll | harlowja: the rackspace/intel thing might be useful for this | 23:54 |
| jroll | disclaimer: no idea what the current state is or what the plans are | 23:54 |
| harlowja | possibly | 23:54 |
| harlowja | or just be able to alternate experiments on trystack.org somehow | 23:54 |
| jroll | but there's a whole bunch of computers that are supposed to be for helping the community | 23:54 |
| jroll | trystack seems to be more about testing things that use the API, at a glance | 23:55 |
| harlowja | unsure, if its a testing sandbox and its free, then imho its fair game for experimenting on people that use it, haha | 23:56 |
| jroll | anyway, I'm out for the night but I'd like to think about this | 23:56 |
| jroll | well sure, but it doesn't sound like you can modify the scheduler :P | 23:56 |
| harlowja | meh | 23:56 |
| harlowja | why not | 23:56 |
| jroll | heh | 23:56 |
| harlowja | 'on TryStack will be periodically wiped to help make sure no one account tries to rule tyrannically over our democracy. ' | 23:56 |
| harlowja | so its already wiping itself | 23:57 |
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| harlowja | * 'your account on TryStack will be periodically wiped to help make sure no one account tries to rule tyrannically over our democracy. ' | 23:57 |
| jroll | heh | 23:57 |
| jroll | alright, have a good weekend \o | 23:57 |
| harlowja | lata | 23:57 |
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