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| openstackgerrit | Yingxin Cheng proposed openstack/nova: Use stevedore for scheduler host manager https://review.openstack.org/246476 | 01:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | lvdongbing proposed openstack/nova: Fix the issue instance not destroyed after evacuated https://review.openstack.org/250101 | 01:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Hua proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: Support bare VHD image https://review.openstack.org/249627 | 02:51 |
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| oomichi | alex_xu: morning | 02:52 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: you seem to fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245543/ now | 02:52 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: morning | 02:52 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: could you fix my points also on the next patch? | 02:52 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: yea, I try to put some impelement detail | 02:52 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: sure, and really thanks for the review! | 02:53 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: right now, I put my comments on that | 02:53 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: cool, thanks | 02:53 |
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| alex_xu | oomichi: thanks for those English tunning :) | 02:53 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: I am not good at English, but I try better :) | 02:54 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: yea, that's better than me | 02:55 |
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| oomichi | alex_xu: no, I just put your text on "English -> Japanese" translation site and I found some typos where the site cannot translate | 02:56 |
| alex_xu | oomichi: good idea, I should try that | 02:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: docs: update services description for concept guide https://review.openstack.org/248454 | 04:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: docs: remove duplicated section about error handling https://review.openstack.org/248455 | 04:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: docs: using the correct format and real world example for fault message https://review.openstack.org/248463 | 04:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: docs: update services description for concept guide https://review.openstack.org/248454 | 05:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: docs: remove duplicated section about error handling https://review.openstack.org/248455 | 05:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: docs: using the correct format and real world example for fault message https://review.openstack.org/248463 | 05:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/nova: use graduated oslo.policy https://review.openstack.org/198065 | 05:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/242727 | 06:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Adds HostCapabilities object model and updates ComputeNode object https://review.openstack.org/228280 | 06:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: db: Adds host_capabilities column in compute_nodes https://review.openstack.org/228279 | 06:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Adds host_capabilities conf options group https://review.openstack.org/250166 | 06:13 |
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| rpodolyaka | hey! please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247552/ when you have a minute (fixes https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1517926) | 14:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1517926 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova services stop to report state via remote conductor" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Roman Podoliaka (rpodolyaka) | 14:10 |
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| mdbooth | Do we mount glance as a filesystem? | 14:35 |
| pkholkin | zzzeek, mdbooth: we updated oslo.db patch | 14:35 |
| * mdbooth is trying to understand nova.image.download.file | 14:35 | |
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| ildikov | danpb: hi | 14:41 |
| ildikov | danpb: I hope I managed to address your concern in the Multi-attach volume spec | 14:41 |
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| ildikov | danpb: if not, then maybe we can try to discuss it here quickly as I might misunderstood what you tried to point out | 14:44 |
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| danpb | ildikov: ok that looks fine | 14:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Make emitting versioned notifications configurable https://review.openstack.org/247564 | 14:59 |
| ildikov | danpb: cool :) | 14:59 |
| ildikov | danpb: thanks much! | 14:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Clinton Knight proposed openstack/nova-specs: Manila support in metadata service https://review.openstack.org/248301 | 15:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Docs: update the concept guide for Host topics https://review.openstack.org/249943 | 15:00 |
| sripriya | hi team, continuing the discussion here for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1515768 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1515768 in tacker "Instance creation fails with libvirtError: Unable to create tap device: Device or resource busy " [Undecided,New] | 15:00 |
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| sripriya | this issue happens when the 1st nic is a port update and 2nd, 3rd nics are port create requests to neutron as seen from the HOT spec | 15:02 |
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| bauzas | sripriya: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/227666563/n-cpu.log.2015-11-25-193438 is very badly formatted and I can't find the exception | 15:03 |
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| bauzas | sripriya: could you please provide another n-cpu log ? | 15:03 |
| bauzas | sripriya: I need to verify if that's a deployment-specific issue, or something more generic | 15:03 |
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| sripriya | bauzas: ah i see, seems attachment on the bug messed it up, let me paste on paste.openstack.org | 15:07 |
| bauzas | thanks | 15:07 |
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| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, this one might be ready from subteam pov (it's a spec) | 15:14 |
| ndipanov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239875/ | 15:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I keep meaning to get back to that one | 15:14 |
| ndipanov | it has dependencies so it is unclear even if we merge the spec we'll get to it | 15:14 |
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| ndipanov | but I think from a design pov it's pretty clear | 15:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: it was the resize bits that worried me I think | 15:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: sorry, wrong spec in my head | 15:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: got you now | 15:16 |
| sripriya | bauzas: unable to share on paste.openstack.org as the log is big is there any other way i could attach logs to the bug? | 15:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: there is a paragraph I can't quite work out what it means | 15:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | possibly just me being dense today | 15:20 |
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| bauzas | sripriya: you don't really need to paste the whole log, just the trace and the call are enough | 15:22 |
| sripriya_ | bauzas: ok doing that now | 15:22 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, which one? | 15:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: I added a comment in the review | 15:24 |
| * ndipanov looks | 15:24 | |
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| ndipanov | I'll defer to vladik but what he meant was that Nova needs to know that it has to tell Neutron what the mac is | 15:25 |
| ndipanov | (I think) | 15:25 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, ^^ | 15:25 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: ah, OK | 15:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lianhao Lu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Corrected some nits in previous spec https://review.openstack.org/250452 | 15:36 |
| sripriya_ | bauzas: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/227691862/cpu_log.txt | 15:38 |
| sripriya_ | bauzas: is the formatting fine in the logs now? | 15:38 |
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| claudiub | bauzas: hello. You promised to take a look at the "expose host capabilities" spec. :) if you have some time, could you check it out? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222200/ | 15:40 |
| bauzas | sripriya_: coolness ty | 15:40 |
| bauzas | claudiub: oh man, right | 15:40 |
| sripriya_ | bauzas: thank you. please let me know if you need the extended log for the error or the neutron/heat logs | 15:42 |
| bauzas | sripriya_: I'm just checking if the gate has the same problem | 15:43 |
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| sripriya_ | bauzas: ok, in fact it failed just yest. on gate for our project when we used a similar template, see http://logs.openstack.org/38/209838/3/check/gate-tacker-dsvm-functional/1c1c8df/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz | 15:45 |
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| bauzas | sripriya_: heh, look at the libvirt XML | 15:46 |
| bauzas | sripriya_: you have 2 VIFs asking for the same TAP device | 15:46 |
| sripriya_ | bauzas: yes, the duplicate vifs in the xml? | 15:48 |
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| bauzas | yup | 15:49 |
| bauzas | well, the gate seems happy, I guess something is wrong with your config | 15:49 |
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| sripriya_ | bauzas: which config? | 15:50 |
| bauzas | I dunno, that requires more depth | 15:50 |
| sripriya_ | bauzas: on the gate too, it is 1 out of 3/4 times that this issue is reproducible | 15:50 |
| bauzas | sripriya_: which request do you write for logstash? | 15:51 |
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| sripriya_ | bauzas: can you pl elaborate? | 15:51 |
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| bauzas | sripriya_: sorry - what I call 'the gate' is the upstream running CI for testing each change that goes thru Gerrit | 15:53 |
| sripriya_ | bauzas: yes, this issue is observed on the upstream CI. the gate failure link is shared with you is from the CI | 15:54 |
| bauzas | sripriya_: in general, intermittent failures like the one you have are spotted because Jenkins votes against an handful of patches | 15:54 |
| vladikr | johnthetubaguy, I've replied to the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239875/ , thanks for the comments, it's exactly as nikola | 15:54 |
| sripriya_ | bauzas: this is actually a functional test that breaks hence Jenkins reports a failure | 15:54 |
| bauzas | sripriya_: so in order to see how many failures we have "in the gate", we use logstash.openstack.org for querying all the Jenkins logs from all the tested changes | 15:55 |
| bauzas | sripriya_: okay, that I understand - I guess it's failing for the Tacker gate? | 15:55 |
| sripriya_ | bauzas: yes | 15:55 |
| bauzas | sripriya_: when I'm saying that I can't see it "in the gate", I'm implicetely mentioning the Nova gate | 15:55 |
| bauzas | that doesn't mean that the bug doesn't exist, just that the criticity of the bug is far lower | 15:56 |
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| bauzas | so, there are 2 possibilities : | 15:57 |
| bauzas | #1 either you have a configuration or deployment issue or unsupported case, and then there would be nothing we could do from the nova pov | 15:57 |
| bauzas | #2 or the issue is present in Nova, but the CI doesn't cover that specific case | 15:58 |
| sripriya_ | bauzas: i completely understand, from the NFV use case point of view, this has been a bit of blocker for our project... | 15:58 |
| sripriya_ | bauzas: we tried this issue locally with just the HEAT spec and no dependency of tacker related stuff | 15:58 |
| sripriya_ | bauzas: we were able to reproduce the issue | 15:58 |
| bauzas | sripriya_: do you have a Gerrit change with all the logs ? | 15:59 |
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| sripriya_ | bauzas: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209838/ | 16:00 |
| sripriya_ | bauzas: this is the most recent one that failed the dsvm-functional which internally had the libvirt: error | 16:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Make emitting versioned notifications configurable https://review.openstack.org/247564 | 16:04 |
| sripriya_ | bauzas: from what i understand from the logs, things work fine when all the 3 port creates completely successfuly before receving a network-changed event from neutron | 16:05 |
| bauzas | agreed | 16:05 |
| sripriya_ | bauzas: if network-changed event is received before the 3rd port creations, the cacche is acquired immed. to update it | 16:05 |
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| sripriya_ | bauzas: while the new query is happening to neutron to fetch the network info, the 3rd port creation would have completed which will reacquired the cache lock and updated the cache again | 16:06 |
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| sripriya_ | bauzas: which ends up as duplicate set of vifs for the xml | 16:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: adds os-win library https://review.openstack.org/247729 | 16:07 |
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| bauzas | sripriya_: see the port status http://logs.openstack.org/38/209838/3/check/gate-tacker-dsvm-functional/1c1c8df/logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz?#_2015-11-26_09_21_04_351 | 16:10 |
| bauzas | and then 2 secs after | 16:10 |
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| bauzas | http://logs.openstack.org/38/209838/3/check/gate-tacker-dsvm-functional/1c1c8df/logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz?#_2015-11-26_09_21_06_760 | 16:11 |
| bauzas | it's flapping | 16:11 |
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| bauzas | sripriya_: I really need to move on and work on other stuff, but you could perhaps rather look at the neutron side | 16:12 |
| bauzas | or get others to look at your problem | 16:12 |
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| sripriya_ | bauzas: sure, i can take it up with the neutron team as well but thanks very much for your time and inputs. appreciate it | 16:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I am not 100% sure you are reading this one correct, but it could be me that is wrong here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247552 | 16:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I think the service is still considered down because there will have been no update received from the host | 16:14 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I perhaps missed one point | 16:15 |
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| bauzas | that's probably a PEBKAC, but I need to read the code then :) | 16:15 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: oh snap indeed | 16:19 |
| bauzas | oh gosh, that model_disconnected variable is... | 16:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: its a bit funky in there | 16:20 |
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| bauzas | so, they wanted to write a Singleton | 16:20 |
| bauzas | and it ended up being... that | 16:20 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so that's a state for knowing if the service had a previous exception or not, right | 16:21 |
| bauzas | ? | 16:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: basically, yeah, I think its just local state | 16:22 |
| bauzas | yeah | 16:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | just to have the recovery log message, and surpress a few log messages during upgrade | 16:22 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: that's not exactly what I understand | 16:24 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: the previous code was saying - depending on your conductor config (which is deprecated now for local), you should look at if we had a MQ timeout | 16:25 |
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| bauzas | if it was a messaging timeout, you should consider that it's transient | 16:25 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yes, they are the same error basically DBError and Messaging are both likely transient during an upgrade | 16:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, wait... | 16:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | DBError isn't | 16:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, it could be, but thats a mute point, upgrade isn't supported for that | 16:26 |
| bauzas | yeah it shouldn't | 16:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | oops | 16:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | well, looking connection to your DB for a short amount of time, is likely transient actually (during a active/passive failover), but thats different | 16:27 |
| bauzas | my take is that if we allow *all* exceptions to be gracefully handled, we could end-up in a situation where Nova could think everything is cool while the MQ is in the weeds | 16:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, here is the problem | 16:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | what else can we do? | 16:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | we could kill the process | 16:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | but that seems odd | 16:29 |
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| bauzas | yeah | 16:30 |
| bauzas | I'm actually wondering... | 16:30 |
| bauzas | sec | 16:30 |
| bauzas | so the problem is because the compute calls .join() which is a remotable method, right? | 16:30 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: since we deprecated the local_conductor thing, I'm only thinking of a remote call | 16:31 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: hang on, let me look | 16:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I think its the save() that the issue? | 16:33 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: yup | 16:33 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: OK so I am confused now | 16:33 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: that calls Service.save() which is a remotable method | 16:33 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so, tbh, I don't really see what we could get except a messaging error | 16:34 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that used to be a messaging timeout, I think thats whats dodgy with this version | 16:35 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: well, not really, if local it was DBError | 16:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | the local error is a different case really | 16:39 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: nah, I meant since it's an object call, that goes to the indirection API | 16:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | sorry, I am lost | 16:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: enginefacade: 'instance_tags' https://review.openstack.org/244058 | 16:40 |
| bauzas | :) | 16:40 |
| bauzas | so the problem is with service.save() | 16:40 |
| bauzas | which is an object remotable method | 16:41 |
| bauzas | I mean, which is decorated | 16:41 |
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| bauzas | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.versionedobjects/blob/master/oslo_versionedobjects/base.py#L168 | 16:42 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: ^ | 16:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: agreed, its remote when using the remote conductor | 16:43 |
| bauzas | but if CONF.conductor.use_local then it's a direct call to the DB https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cmd/compute.py#L65-L71 | 16:44 |
| bauzas | which means that the object method directly calls the DB API | 16:45 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: amirite? | 16:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yes, exactly that | 16:46 |
| bauzas | that's why the old version of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247552/4/nova/servicegroup/drivers/db.py,cm was capturing DBError | 16:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, sort of | 16:46 |
| bauzas | okay, then you could help me because I missed one point :) | 16:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | its not an upgrade case, its that your DB fails over in an active/passive pair, you see DB errors | 16:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | if you don't catch that error, then you stop reporting the status for good | 16:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | now the old commit message for adding that was incorrect, basically | 16:48 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: well, in the past, we were not doing online data migrations | 16:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, thats unrelated here | 16:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, semi-unrelated | 16:48 |
| bauzas | I dunno | 16:49 |
| bauzas | anyway, I'm torn | 16:49 |
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| bauzas | so, the local thing confuses lots of things | 16:49 |
| bauzas | I'm just trying to consider only the remote case | 16:49 |
| bauzas | if a remote call is done by .save(), what could be the expected errors we could get except a MessagingTimeout? | 16:50 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so I have a new patch ready for this, that might clear up what I am thinking | 16:50 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think thats where I am at, messagingTimeout should be the only expected error | 16:51 |
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| bauzas | because if something is really wrong with the MQ, I'd prefer checking before restarting my compute | 16:52 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yes, agreed | 16:52 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: okay, I feel I understand much better the situation, you helped me understand that I was wrong on something | 16:52 |
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| johnthetubaguy | this is about when you raise an exception, the compute silently dies | 16:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, in a status reporting sense | 16:52 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: but if something goes wrong because of an exception, that maybe makes sense to stop doing things and look at what's wrong? | 16:54 |
| bauzas | oh man, I need to pick up my daughter | 16:54 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: you should do the taxi thing, I will upload the patch. | 16:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: servicegroup: stop zombie service due to exception https://review.openstack.org/247552 | 17:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: servicegroup: stop zombie service due to exception https://review.openstack.org/247552 | 17:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | rpodolyaka_afk: sorry, uploaded another patchset here, after some discussion: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247552/ | 17:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | rpodolyaka_afk: I think I have this straight in my head now, lets see if that works for everyone | 17:10 |
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| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, can we have a short chat about the cancel migration spec - I want to see if you think my reasoning is right? | 17:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: yes, sure | 17:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | I should re-read jay's comment on there... | 17:15 |
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| PaulMurray | and you may have to bear with me a moment while I get the words in the right order | 17:16 |
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| PaulMurray | There is going to be a tasks API - and i think that will treat tasks as first class objects | 17:16 |
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| PaulMurray | and tasks are likely to have operations exactly like the ones we are describing | 17:17 |
| PaulMurray | ...especially cancel | 17:17 |
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| PaulMurray | so if we use an action on the instance or a delete on a sub-resource, either would change to match the task api in time | 17:18 |
| PaulMurray | So that is one thought. | 17:18 |
| PaulMurray | Another is this: | 17:18 |
| PaulMurray | there are two view points (at least) - tenant/user and operator | 17:19 |
| PaulMurray | tenants will be interested in things to do with their instances | 17:19 |
| PaulMurray | operators may be interested in things to do with hosts | 17:19 |
| PaulMurray | I think that is why someone made up the migrations object, so we can say list all the migrations related to this host...etc | 17:20 |
| PaulMurray | So, should migrations be thought of as a sub-resource of an instance | 17:20 |
| PaulMurray | or as a top level resource | 17:20 |
| PaulMurray | or both...? | 17:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, and the complication here is that for hosts, we don't want to do orchestration in nova for operation that act on multiple instances, but that doesn't really change my mind here | 17:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so I will share where I am at with this | 17:21 |
| PaulMurray | So how do you see it? | 17:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | they are useful things, so I don't want to block them | 17:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | long term I want to see an instance tasks API, or pattern to replace the current actions mess, but thats always next release right now | 17:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | rather than invent something odd we end up replacing, lets make it consistently bad as everything else in the mean time | 17:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we have task_state on the server right now, I see that as eventually GET servers/{uuid}/tasks?active=true as its replacement, or something like that | 17:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | it would be annoying if only migrations were stored somewhere else, although the tasks might just like to servers/{uuid | 17:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | arg | 17:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | the task might just point a request-id at, server/{uuid}/migration/{uuid} | 17:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | I don't really see what we want migration as a top level concept, that feels odd | 17:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: in summary, a little confused, but just want to make some progress this cycle | 17:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: I think the best best is to discuss this at the API meeting on tuesday, after syncing up with folks ASAP | 17:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | s/best best/best bet/ | 17:26 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, Whatever we do i think cancel and live-migrate-force-end should be consistent - so we would need to change one or the other | 17:27 |
| PaulMurray | or both | 17:27 |
| PaulMurray | But in the end this is just API | 17:28 |
| PaulMurray | we need to do the internals etc. too | 17:28 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, would you prefer to see this sorted out before merging the spec? | 17:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Add service status notification https://review.openstack.org/245678 | 17:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Add infra for versioned notifications https://review.openstack.org/247024 | 17:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Make emitting versioned notifications configurable https://review.openstack.org/247564 | 17:29 |
| PaulMurray | I can image writing it up with a usable API and then changing both if we decide its not right | 17:29 |
| PaulMurray | say the one with an instance action - like live-migrate-force-end | 17:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: so I think implementation can start now, its mostly agreed, but I would like to get the REST API agreed before we merge the spec | 17:30 |
| paul-carlton1 | For cancel it seems to me a binary choice between patch set 23 - action and patch set 24 - using migration task of instance per sdague's suggestion | 17:30 |
| PaulMurray | ok - so I guess we have two alternative proposals right now - sean's and the action version | 17:30 |
| PaulMurray | we just need to pick one and make both cancel and the live-migrate-force-end do the same | 17:31 |
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| PaulMurray | approach | 17:31 |
| PaulMurray | paul-carlton1, yep, with cleanup | 17:31 |
| paul-carlton1 | cleanup? | 17:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton1: the problem is do we think the migration task is the medium tearm goal, or is that a more unified task API, I am still wanting the later. | 17:32 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, I don't think we can anticipate the design of the task API before its designed | 17:32 |
| paul-carlton1 | which is the current proposal on my spec | 17:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton1: PaulMurray: so I think the good bit here, is either way most of the implementation is the same | 17:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: agreed, thats why I think we should go for the action approach, so its consistent with everything else we currently do | 17:33 |
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| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, I'm with you - need to see what the others think I suppose | 17:34 |
| paul-carlton1 | that would be patchset 23 which is the API sdague objected too | 17:34 |
| PaulMurray | paul-carlton1, still to be seen what he thinks on that | 17:34 |
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| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton1: yes, I know he hates actions, and doesn't really want us to add any more | 17:34 |
| paul-carlton1 | Well that was my interpretation of what he suggested in his review comments, although I could have misunderstood it | 17:35 |
| PaulMurray | alex_xu, are you around still? | 17:35 |
| paul-carlton1 | the force live migration (pause instance) spec got approved with action approach | 17:35 |
| PaulMurray | paul-carlton1, he hasn't been engaged in subsequent discussion, so we don't really know what his conclusion is | 17:36 |
| paul-carlton1 | I sent him email too but I guess he is US based so will not surface till Monday | 17:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think he is away this week, has a young family to be with this week | 17:37 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, thanks - I'll ask alex_xu to put it on his agenda - do they have a wiki page? | 17:37 |
| PaulMurray | for API meeting | 17:37 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its called NovaAPI | 17:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaAPI | 17:38 |
| PaulMurray | I just guessed that...right first time | 17:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | I did Nova-API earlier in the week, so I remember it now :) | 17:38 |
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| PaulMurray | surely you remember the convention for hyphens: | 17:40 |
| PaulMurray | 1. user camel case | 17:40 |
| PaulMurray | 2. except where others have used - | 17:40 |
| PaulMurray | 3. in which case use _ | 17:40 |
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| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: lol | 17:48 |
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| lxsli | bauzas: hi sylvain, elementary objects question for you. I'm adding requested_destination to RequestSpec as you know. A bit of code instantiates a new RequestSpec (without specifying a value for my field) then hits my code which accesses that field and tries to lazy load it. How do I get it to default to None? The field is already Nullable=true, I tried adding default=None and that didn't help one | 17:52 |
| lxsli | whit | 17:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: add hacking check for config options location https://review.openstack.org/249947 | 18:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: config options: add hacking check for help text length https://review.openstack.org/242078 | 18:26 |
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