Friday, 2015-11-27

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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/25056501:34
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Expose quiesce/unquiesce API  https://review.openstack.org/24898902:00
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Expose quiesce/unquiesce API  https://review.openstack.org/24898902:47
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openstackgerritVladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova-specs: Enable SR-IOV physical functions assignment with Neutron port  https://review.openstack.org/23987505:01
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openstackgerritJohn Hua proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: Support bare VHD image  https://review.openstack.org/24962705:30
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openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Trivial: Optimize the open method with context manager  https://review.openstack.org/25063106:52
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openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: servicegroup: stop zombie service due to exception  https://review.openstack.org/24755207:02
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openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Add way to pause VM during live migration  https://review.openstack.org/24592107:14
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openstackgerritJohn Hua proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: Support bare VHD image  https://review.openstack.org/24962707:34
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openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Optimize "open" method with context manager  https://review.openstack.org/25063107:55
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openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/nova: Optimize "open" method with context manager  https://review.openstack.org/25066508:18
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bauzasgood morning Nova08:30
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rdopieranice weather today, a little bit splitty08:48
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tangchen__Hi guys, can we merge this one first ?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229282/09:23
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Expose quiesce/unquiesce API  https://review.openstack.org/24898909:37
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openstackgerritJohn Hua proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: Support bare VHD image  https://review.openstack.org/24962709:40
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openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: Use instance in setup_networks_on_host  https://review.openstack.org/24911009:44
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Expose quiesce/unquiesce API  https://review.openstack.org/24898909:49
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: around ?10:03
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247552/7/nova/servicegroup/drivers/db.py,cm10:03
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: so, I'm a bit torn10:03
johnthetubaguybauwser: having IRC troubles this morning, but just about here now10:03
johnthetubaguybauwser: do tell10:04
bauwserGrrr, I'm also having trouble10:04
tdurakovjohnthetubaguy, hello10:05
bauwserSec, restarting znc10:05
johnthetubaguybauwser: no worries, I have been through that cycle this morning :(10:05
johnthetubaguytdurakov: hi10:05
tdurakovjohnthetubaguy, could you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249110/ please10:05
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johnthetubaguytdurakov: sorry, no, focusing on specs till the deadline10:06
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tdurakovjohnthetubaguy, ok, np10:06
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: okay, so I have 2 concerns10:06
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: #1 why should we be removing the conductor use_local check10:06
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bauwser#2 why we should still accept to catch all the exceptions10:07
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johnthetubaguybauwser: so lets start with #210:07
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: fair10:07
johnthetubaguybauwser: if we don't catch all exceptions, we create a zombie compute10:07
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: well, because it's a periodical thread, right?10:08
johnthetubaguyi.e. its running, but no longer reporting status10:08
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johnthetubaguyso the scheduler things its dead, but its actually running just fine10:08
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johnthetubaguywell, fine-ish10:08
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johnthetubaguyif we don't catch the exception, that greenlet dies, and doesn't report errors, no auto-recovery10:09
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: so, if the problem is that the service is still up while the periodic threading is trampled, why shouldn't we try instead to kill the main process rather than hiding the exception ?10:09
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tangchen__johnthetubaguy: Hi John, would you please take a look at this spec ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229282/   If there is no objection, can we merge it ?10:09
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johnthetubaguytangchen__: needs two +2s to merge, just like code10:10
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: that I agree, I just wonder if we shouldn't rather try to raise something on the main process10:10
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add user data into general concept  https://review.openstack.org/25072410:10
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: it doesn't use the periodic oslo stuff also, so yeah it's a green thread10:10
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: which means that can become a zombie10:11
bauwserif so, why shouldn't we change how we periodically send status by using the other way we usually use?10:11
tangchen__alex_xu, oomichi: Hi, would you please give +2 to this spec ?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229282/10:11
johnthetubaguya periodic task would make more sense to me, but this is more about fixing a very bad bug quickly10:11
johnthetubaguythat feels like a follow on change10:12
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bauwserspeaking of https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/servicegroup/drivers/db.py#L54-L57 tbc10:12
johnthetubaguyso with the current code, what we get is, slight network blip, compute dies10:12
bauwserokay, I can understand that10:13
bauwserif so, we should have a big fat comment explaining that's because we use a very bad way to periodically call a method10:13
bauwserand that we should fix rather than doing a catch-all10:13
johnthetubaguyso its really managers that have a periodic task, and this is kinda hidden from all that, which is why I guess its not done that way10:14
johnthetubaguybut its worth a look to see if thats easy10:14
bauwserI know, hence me saying I'm okay with having that for a follow-up10:14
bauwserbecause it could become a bit more difficult than I think initially10:15
bauwserbecause indeed, that makes use of the manager stuff if I recall10:15
johnthetubaguyyeah, its messy to make that work, I think10:15
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: but tbc, the comment given is wrong to me             # NOTE(rpodolyaka): we'd like to avoid catching of all possible10:16
bauwser            # exceptions here, but otherwise it would become possible for10:16
bauwser            # the state reporting thread to stop abruptly, and thus leave10:16
bauwser            # the service unusable until it's restarted.10:16
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johnthetubaguyyeah, thats not the best description10:16
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: that's not because we don't want to stop the service, but rather because if not, the service is still up without the periodic call10:16
bauwserwhat the owner called 'zombie'10:17
bauwser(which can be very confusing, but since I'm a pretty bad guy for naming stuff, I leave that out my comments :D)10:17
johnthetubaguywell, it doesn't say about stopping the service right?10:17
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johnthetubaguyits about the greenlet running the update method10:17
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: right10:18
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: you're correct10:18
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: but that sounds a hack for continue having the greenlet running IMHO10:19
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johnthetubaguybauwser: agreed, I think thats what that comment is trying to say10:19
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: okay, commenting10:19
bauwserfor #1, it's a corrolary10:19
bauwserif we consider that having a catch-all exception is good, then there is no need to handle the specific use_local stuff10:20
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BobBalljohnthetubaguy: Please remove your +2 from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247853/ - it breaks XenAPI live migrate.10:20
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johnthetubaguyright10:20
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johnthetubaguyBobBall: you haven't commented in the code, where is that?10:21
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BobBallDone.10:22
openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Add way to pause VM during live migration  https://review.openstack.org/24592110:23
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johnthetubaguyBobBall: can you give him an example to work with, and comment where it goes in the unit test?10:28
BobBallAn example of what?  There appears to be very sparse unit test coverage of live migrate10:28
johnthetubaguyBobBall: an example response from XenAPI that includes the dict10:31
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BobBallThe XAPI docs show clearly that it's string -> string map10:31
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BobBall(string → string) map migrate_receive (host ref, network ref, (string → string) map)10:32
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johnthetubaguyBobBall: right, that means something to me, but can we just suggest the appropriate dict to go into the fake XAPI call here: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/xenapi/fake.py#L82310:33
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johnthetubaguyBobBall: this looks like we have Ok coverage in that area, just bad example responses10:34
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alex_xujohnthetubaguy: morning, may I ask a question about upgrade, it's about whether  we plan have microversion pinning something like rpc pinning? as I think of all feature with new microversion need return fault when the request send to old compute node when upgrade. as all controller upgrade first, and new microversio enabled, but some compute node keep in the old version.10:36
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johnthetubaguyalex_xu: thats no planned right now10:36
paul-carlton2johnthetubaguy: is there an official list of Linux versions that Openstack is meant to support?10:37
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: so in my head, I like the idea of upgrading the API nodes, after upgrading all the compute nodes10:37
johnthetubaguypaul-carlton2: we don't, the only things we know work are the ones in the gate10:37
paul-carlton2ok, I thought someone said we support debian wheezy the other day but that doesn't seem to be in gate10:38
paul-carlton2mdbooth: Do you remember the discussion about how to test libvirt storage pools on libvit min version, I thought we decided debian wheezy was the right choice10:39
tangchen__alex_xu: Hi alex, would you please give one more +2 to this spec when you are free? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229282/10:40
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johnthetubaguyalex_xu: paul-carlton2: I did send you a response, but my IRC connection restarted, not sure if you got the response10:42
mdboothpaul-carlton2: I'm still a bit confused about where these version requirements come from, tbh. Wheezy isn't a perfect fit, but it sounds like we can massage it appropriately. Something, somewhere must be a perfect fit, though. If we could find out where the requirements come from, I'd still prefer to use exactly that.10:42
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paul-carlton2The minimum verison for libvirt is 0.10.2 which I think centos 6 has but someone said we don't support centos10:42
johnthetubaguypaul-carlton2: this is the wiki page I know about: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LibvirtDistroSupportMatrix10:43
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mdboothYeah, centos 6 doesn't have python 2.7, so we don't support that10:43
johnthetubaguywe don't "support" anything that is not in the age or a third party CI10:43
johnthetubaguyso I think EPEL has 2.7, depends how you look at it I suppose10:43
mdboothjohnthetubaguy: So we could reasonably bump the requirement to something current in the gate, right?10:43
paul-carlton2you mean libvirt min version ?10:44
mdboothYeah10:44
mdboothI mean, if the requirement isn't currently relevant, we could just change it10:44
paul-carlton2don't we need a cycles notice for that?10:44
johnthetubaguyyeah, needs a cycles notice10:44
bauwseralex_xu: so I was trying to ping you before the netspit10:45
bauwserall, fyi, freenode is constantly attacked by DDoS since the beginning of EU morning10:45
mdboothjohnthetubaguy: Why? We don't require a cycle's notice to upgrade eventlet.10:45
paul-carlton2so we are suck with 0.10.2 for mikata, just trying to find an environment I can run that in10:45
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johnthetubaguymdbooth: paul-carlton2: the current wiki came from a ML discussion10:45
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johnthetubaguybauwser: ah, that would explain it10:46
johnthetubaguyoh my...10:46
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: not sure i you are on here10:46
mdboothIn fact, we upgrade automatically it whenever there's a new version with no prior testing.10:46
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paul-carlton2I tried debian wheezy because by default it has 0.9.12 libvirt and I have a co-worker working in a 0.10.2 build for wheezy10:47
mdboothjohnthetubaguy: What's the canonical ci for the libvirt driver?10:47
mdboothGuessing it's the main test target10:47
paul-carlton2but I hit https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1520336 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/152033510:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1520336 in neutron "ovs-vsctl command in neutron agent fails with version 1.4.2" [Undecided,New]10:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1520335 in devstack "Adding liberasurecode-dev as a dependency breaks wheezy devstack" [Undecided,New]10:47
bauwseralex_xu: (again) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245543/1110:47
bauwseralex_xu: you missed to update the spec with the new agreed point for the disk stuff10:48
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add hypervisor and aggregates brief description  https://review.openstack.org/25073710:48
johnthetubaguymdbooth: jenkins gate, I don't actually remember what ubuntu its running right now10:48
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mdboothpaul-carlton2: We should run whatever the gate's running. If that's not running libvirt 0.10.2, then it's the practical target anyway.10:49
mdboothWe should just use that.10:49
paul-carlton2I think I could overcome this by running without swift and mamybe neutron can be configured without ovs10:49
mdboothThis libvirt min version sounds a bit vague and arbitrary. I'm not personally inclined to get hung up on it.10:49
paul-carlton2mdbooth: I'm on board with that!10:49
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alex_xujohnthetubaguy: bauwser just saw your message10:50
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johnthetubaguymdbooth: well, thats not true right, negotiation lead to the pick in that wiki page, the ask has been to get a CI setup for the bottom version and some "new" version, but that has never happened :(10:50
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce "pause" to Guest's object  https://review.openstack.org/24983410:50
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: wrapper list_instance_guests to Host's object  https://review.openstack.org/24983510:50
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce "shutdown" to Guest's object  https://review.openstack.org/24983310:50
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce "migrate" to Guest's object  https://review.openstack.org/25036510:50
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce "abort_job" to Guest's object  https://review.openstack.org/25073810:50
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: configure migrate max downtime  https://review.openstack.org/25073910:50
bauwserwell, it's hard this morning...10:50
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: introduce get_job_info to Guest's object  https://review.openstack.org/25074010:50
johnthetubaguybauwser: +110:51
mdboothjohnthetubaguy: 'Don't break the gate' sounds like a pragmatic approach, then.10:51
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: thanks, I got it, for now, we probably only can check in the rpc api clent first. And a little late to propose add version pinning in mitaka.10:51
paul-carlton2ok so without ci for debian wheezy it will not as I found out, remain supported for long!10:51
johnthetubaguypaul-carlton2: agreed10:52
johnthetubaguyif its not tested in the CI system, good luck keeping that working10:52
paul-carlton2is there an easy way to find out what OS version the various gate jobs run?10:53
alex_xubauwser: emm...sorry, that is mixed with my middle version. I have think about keep disk_over_commit due to upgrade, but after think, it is make sense to add check if the compute node is old.10:53
johnthetubaguyhoping to kick start the feature classification work again, to make that clearer10:53
alex_xubauwser: so my finally decision is remove disk_over_commit10:53
johnthetubaguypaul-carlton2: ask in #openstack-infra is the quickest way, although the jenkins logs might also tell you10:53
bauwseralex_xu: ack10:54
bauwseralex_xu: I then need to figure more the impact10:54
alex_xubauwser: no problem, thanks for the review10:55
johnthetubaguypaul-carlton2: its trusty by the look of it10:55
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: HTH http://logs.openstack.org/50/202650/22/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/f91c0b1/logs/dpkg-l.txt.gz10:57
bauwserpaul-carlton2 ^10:57
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johnthetubaguythats the one10:58
bauwser(had a very few understanding of the problem because of $netsplit)10:58
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johnthetubaguythanks10:58
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johnthetubaguycouldn't find a dvsm-full job10:58
PaulMurraybonjour tout le monde10:59
bauwser\o/10:59
paul-carlton2I'm going through all jobs in gate right now, so are all trusty10:59
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Making the live-migration API friendly  https://review.openstack.org/24554310:59
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paul-carlton2so seem to me the only thing we test on in the gate is trusty11:02
paul-carlton2Trusty comes with libvirt 1.2.2 so despite what we say about minimum version supported all we test on in 1.2.211:03
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mdboothpaul-carlton2: I doubt RH is terribly interested in supporting ancient libvirt either.11:04
paul-carlton2And even if we are careful to avoid implementing anything that requires more than min version of libvirt, other projects seem to have moved on from what old OS's support11:05
mdboothIt just sounds like a make-work exercise to me :/11:05
paul-carlton2mdbooth: agreed and realistically everybody understands that old versions of products are pretty much 'as is', if you want fixes get on a recent version11:06
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paul-carlton2My point is the there is little point us saying we support 0.10.2 libvirt if as johnthetubaguy says realistically can't reliably support what isn't in gate11:07
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paul-carlton2so we should implement and test libvirt storage pools based on 1.2.2 because the is what we test with, clearly we can be disciplined and make sure we do not rely on any features not in 0.10.211:09
johnthetubaguypaul-carlton2: so its what we promised our users at this point, so we need to find some way of doing that11:09
johnthetubaguyso I think it could be reasonable to say 1.2.2 is needed for storage pool support11:09
johnthetubaguyas a starting point11:10
PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, paul-carlton2 mdbooth I think the point about min version support was to do with removing the non-storage pool way of doing things wasn't it11:10
PaulMurrayif we have decide to keep an alternative I think making it11:11
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Remove unused param of CertificatesController  https://review.openstack.org/25074911:11
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PaulMurrayonly available on more recent versions is ok11:11
PaulMurray?11:11
paul-carlton2johnthetubaguy: but you and danbp wanted it to be default11:11
PaulMurrayso do we really need it to work on min version if its default - I can see why but is it necessary?11:12
paul-carlton2PaulMurray:  we are talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232045/ here not https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243587/11:12
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PaulMurrayyes11:12
PaulMurrayso am I11:13
paul-carlton2for the libvirt migration using storage pools we will require a very recent version of libvirt, because fall back is rysnc or don't do cold migration whichever the deployment is doing now11:13
PaulMurrayMaybe I need to catch up11:13
johnthetubaguypaul-carlton2: eventually yes, I would rather make some progress, rather than non11:14
johnthetubaguyfeels like it probably needs to cook in the gate a little while before it becomes the default, but maybe I am overthinking that11:15
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add hypervisor, aggregates, migration description  https://review.openstack.org/25073711:15
PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, no, I think that is probably right11:15
PaulMurraypaul-carlton2, we did decide that we will maintain rsync as well, yes11:15
PaulMurraybecause of performance reasons11:15
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paul-carlton2I'd say we implement storage pools based on 0.10.2 libvirt features but test on 1.2.2 because that is what is in the gate11:16
paul-carlton2or try to get something that runs 0.10.2 libvirt into gate11:16
paul-carlton2if we do it right anyone using < 1.2.2 will be ok even if we make it default but they will be no worse off than now, i.e. if you are running on a version not in gate you are always going to be at risk11:17
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openstackgerritdstepanenko proposed openstack/nova: WIP: This is 3rd part of changes according to pci-generate-stats blueprint.  https://review.openstack.org/24769211:18
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johnthetubaguypaul-carlton2: PaulMurray: I think a combination of the two, and we have our answer, do best effort to work on both 0.10.2 and 1.2.211:19
johnthetubaguyI need to try and get some answers around libvirt testing very soon11:19
johnthetubaguyits on my TODO list, and near the top, ish11:19
mdboothpaul-carlton2: That was pretty much what I intended to do, btw. Test on modern libvirt, but don't use any apis which weren't present in min version.11:22
PaulMurraymdbooth, but without all the chat first :)11:23
mdboothPaulMurray: ;)11:23
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openstackgerritdstepanenko proposed openstack/nova: WIP: This is 4th patch of changes according to pci-generate-stats blueprint.  https://review.openstack.org/25075711:30
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openstackgerritaginwala proposed openstack/nova: fixes free_gb value when scheduler receives free_disk_gb from compute. Some times when None is received, it tries to convert it to MB and fails due to Nonetype multiplication with int  https://review.openstack.org/25076711:59
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PaulMurrayalex_xu, are you around?12:08
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Add service status notification  https://review.openstack.org/24567812:08
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Adds json sample for the versioned notifications  https://review.openstack.org/24816712:08
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Make emitting versioned notifications configurable  https://review.openstack.org/24756412:08
* PaulMurray thinks it might just be him and openstackgettit on this channel and openstackgerrit isn't much fun to talk to12:09
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: removes *Utils modules and unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/21591712:16
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: adds os-win library  https://review.openstack.org/24772912:16
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Converting nova.virt.hyperv to py3  https://review.openstack.org/23255412:17
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alex_xuPaulMurray: hi, I'm here12:29
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PaulMurrayhi alex_xu12:36
alex_xuPaulMurray: hi12:36
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PaulMurrayalex_xu, was talking to johnthetubaguy about the cancel live migration spec and API12:36
PaulMurrayhe thought we should discuss it in the API meeting - that make sense to you12:37
alex_xuPaulMurray: yea, I saw the irc log, i already add that to the agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaAPI :)12:37
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PaulMurraygreat - I'll be there and so will paul-carlton212:38
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alex_xuyea, cool12:38
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PaulMurraythanks12:38
alex_xuyou are welcome12:38
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openstackgerritPavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: bug and tests in 'instance_info_cache'  https://review.openstack.org/25079012:53
ndipanovsbezverk, hey - I just updated the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/151987812:53
openstackLaunchpad bug 1519878 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "numatopology filter incorrectly returns no resources" [Undecided,Incomplete]12:53
ndipanovtake a look12:53
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openstackgerritPavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: enginefacade: 'instance_tags'  https://review.openstack.org/24405812:55
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openstackgerritPavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: bug and tests in 'instance_info_cache'  https://review.openstack.org/25079012:58
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openstackgerritPavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: removed db_exc.DBDuplicateEntry in bw_usage_update  https://review.openstack.org/25080713:24
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openstackgerritAndrey Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Remove python 2.6 support from python-novaclient  https://review.openstack.org/24887413:35
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PaulMurrayalex_xu, looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243096/3/specs/mitaka/approved/volume-ops-when-shelved.rst13:37
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PaulMurrayalex_xu, not sure what the comment meant13:38
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PaulMurrayalex_xu, the operations are available as soon as the api is upgraded - the version of the compute node doesn't matter13:39
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PaulMurrayI'll comment on spec13:40
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markus_z____My IRC bouncer provider has some trouble with their server. How can I kick my bouncer account "markus_z" out of the channel?13:41
PaulMurraymarkus_z____, I think you need to talk to infra13:42
PaulMurraysomeone there will have rights to do that13:42
markus_z____PaulMurray: OK, thanks, I'm going to do that13:42
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openstackgerritPaul Murray proposed openstack/nova-specs: Allow volume operations when shelved  https://review.openstack.org/24309613:57
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openstackgerritPaul Murray proposed openstack/nova-specs: Detach and attach boot volumes  https://review.openstack.org/22173214:03
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lxsli_webbauzas: afternoon14:08
bauzaslxsli_web: afternoon14:09
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lxsli_webbauzas: Adding an __init__ method to RequestSpec which sets self.requested_destination = None turns off the lazyloading and helps tests pass, but is this the right thing to do please?14:09
bauzaslxsli_web: I saw your question yesterday night14:09
bauzaslxsli_web: I don't understand14:10
bauzaslxsli_web: so you want to default the field?14:10
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bauzaslxsli_web: because if not, you would have to add the field to the unittests, right?14:11
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lxsli_web_bauzas: sorry, IRC dc'd14:11
bauzasyeah14:11
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lxsli_web_bauzas: would you repeat please?14:12
bauzas(15:10:15) bauzas: lxsli_web: so you want to default the field?14:12
bauzas(15:11:23) bauzas: lxsli_web: because if not, you would have to add the field to the unittests, right?14:12
lxsli_web_bauzas: yes I'd like to default to None. Adding "default=None" to the field definition didn't help though14:12
bauzasmmm14:13
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lxsli_web_bauzas: I think I could just find every instantiation and add req_dest=None but that's a bit rubbish14:13
bauzaslxsli_web: by calling ob_set_default() right?14:13
lxsli_web_bauzas: hmm haven't heard of that one14:13
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lxsli_web_bauzas: I see obj_set_defaults() but it doesn't seem to take any params14:14
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bauzasno14:14
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bauzaslxsli_web_: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.versionedobjects/blob/master/oslo_versionedobjects/base.py#L55814:15
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lxsli_web_So where do I call that? __init__ ?14:15
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bauzaslxsli_web_: sec, thinking14:16
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bauzaslxsli_web_: so first, having a default value for the field sounds cool14:16
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lxsli_webDC'd again14:17
bauzasargh14:17
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lxsli0but I saw it here!14:17
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bauzaslol14:17
lxslimultiply redundant IRC clients...14:17
bauzasoh btw.14:17
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bauwserso14:18
bauwserI was saying having a default value set to None for requested_dest sounds okay to me14:18
bauwsernow, the biggest question is when to hydrate that14:18
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bauwserlxsli: honestly, I wonder if it should rather be set only when the hydractation is done14:19
bauwserlxsli: and not by calling __init__14:20
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bauwserbut that sounds an implementation detail that could be discussed with others14:20
bauwserlxsli^14:20
lxslibauwser: so from_primitives? and add it to any test that doesn't call that?14:20
bauwserlxsli: I think so yep14:20
lxsli*add req_dest to the constructor invocation14:20
bauwserbut maybe wait for other thoughts14:21
lxslibauwser: OK I'll push that up then, see what feedback I get14:21
lxsliI consider Gerrit a discussion-generation tool :)14:21
bauwserlxsli: I feel for the moment, just provide a quick POC for that and we could discuss that before modifying the tests14:21
lxslibauwser: it should be pretty trivial14:21
bauwseryeah14:21
bauwsersince I'm not the one who wrote that helper method, nor provided a default attribute for a field, I'd love to hear dansmith's thoughts14:22
johnthetubaguybauwser: hey, I was looking at the request spec stuff, for a bit of relief from specs, can I ask a question about the scheduler RPC thingy14:22
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: sure, go ahead14:22
lxslidansmith's thoughts: I'm so full14:22
bauwserlxsli: yeah we have to wait him being done with all the food :D14:23
johnthetubaguybauwser: so I wonder if we should leave the version bump until the end of the release, you could just do an inline check for the type of the arg, I think?14:23
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: well, good point, I'm not opioniated on that14:24
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: I only need to change the API because I need to pass an object that's it14:24
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johnthetubaguybauwser: its just not quite what I was expecting, not that thats always a bad thing :)14:25
johnthetubaguybauwser: if we do the v5.0 bump, I think we should make the v4.0 stuff just a shim on top of the v5 object, or similar14:25
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johnthetubaguybauwser: just thinking of making 5.1 easy14:26
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: I see your point14:26
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: so you mean having a V4Proxy and not a V5Proxy14:26
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: that's one point in my mind, correct14:26
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: the other one is that I really don't see why it couldn't be a minor bump (4.X)14:27
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bauwseroh snap14:27
johnthetubaguybauwser: yeah14:28
bauwsersec, I need to remind the rules when a major bump is needed14:28
johnthetubaguybauwser: I am cool with either of those, but the minor bump is the more normal one14:28
bauwserbecause I'm changing the attributes to the function14:28
johnthetubaguybauwser: basically when it can't be backwards compatible, I think you can just make the filter thing option, and check the type of request_spec, and you are good14:28
bauwserit's not really like if I was changing the attribute type or something14:28
bauwseryeah, but that sounds hacky...14:29
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johnthetubaguybauwser: its a common pattern though right, when adding objects, hence that old decorator we had14:29
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: which pattern ? bumping a major version ?14:30
* bauwser is on Friday sale too14:30
johnthetubaguychecking the type of arguments14:30
johnthetubaguythen converting to an object if needed14:30
bauwseroh that yeah14:30
johnthetubaguymaking arguments optional in later versions is quite common too14:31
johnthetubaguywell, not as common14:31
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bauwserwell, after thinking about that, it's because the client method is also changed14:31
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bauwserbecause we have now 2 methods with the same name but accepting 2 different arguments14:32
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bauwsermmm14:32
johnthetubaguybauwser: that doesn't matter right? the RPC API only has to do new code14:32
bauwserfor some reason, my brain is locked today14:32
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johnthetubaguybauwser: new code talks to it, it does the conversion to primitive as required14:32
bauwseryeah you're fully right14:33
bauwserI was just tired I guess14:33
johnthetubaguybauwser: I know that feeling, mine is similar, yeah, sleepy14:33
bauwserwe only need to speak new language and do the transalation14:33
bauwserso, in that case, a minor bump could be far less invasive14:33
johnthetubaguyyeah14:33
bauwserokay, I can respin that14:34
johnthetubaguyI think the big thing is that it makes the next version easier14:34
bauwseryup14:34
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Add service status notification  https://review.openstack.org/24567814:34
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Adds json sample for the versioned notifications  https://review.openstack.org/24816714:34
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bauwserbecause we also still have backwards compat' which is one of the reasons why we do minors vs. majors14:34
bauwserthat's not if the new RPC API was not able to talk to old schedulers14:35
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: you made a very good point, ty !14:35
bauwserI was lazy when writing my change, a minor could have been done the trick14:35
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johnthetubaguyironically, I think the other way is less work, but thats easy done :)14:36
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johnthetubaguybauwser: so I have an idea here, you could change the RPC API to acccept objects, before you do the RPC change, then do the RPC change last14:37
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johnthetubaguybauwser: it makes it more normal that way14:37
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: I see, inverting my last 2 patches?14:40
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bauwserand leave the RPC API being the last patch14:40
bauwserthat sounds doable14:40
johnthetubaguybauwser: yeah, looking again, I don't think it atually matters too much, it just will make the RPC wire protocol change look more "normal" I guess.14:41
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johnthetubaguybauwser: I can +2 the last one its its current form I think, just re-reading it now14:41
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: tbc, the last one is called 'the last' in my change, but it will need to be follow up by other changes for passing the Spec to the compute for example14:47
bauwserand at least one for removing the sched_utils.build_req_spec14:47
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: but my gut was about changing the RPC API to provide an object for that BP, hence this one called "the last one"14:48
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johnthetubaguybauwser: OK... just seems like we should push that a touch further, into the scheduler utils at least14:54
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: yeah14:56
bauwsertbh, for the moment, I'm working on looking at all the DocImpact and UpgradeImpact changes14:57
bauwserso, that discussion should be resumed by after M-1 :)14:57
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: btw. could you please look at this one ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248013/114:58
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: we need to clean up the current notes14:58
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: and I'll provide a series for adding the notes for the merged UpgradeImpacy15:00
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openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Allow saving empty pci_device_pools in ComputeNode object  https://review.openstack.org/21604915:02
johnthetubaguybauwser: I don't see that pre-amble stuff appearing the the build notes? am I missing it somehow?15:03
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: yes, it's appearing15:03
johnthetubaguybauwser: I was just looking here: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/13/248013/1/check/gate-nova-releasenotes/90f7994//releasenotes/build/html/unreleased.html#id115:04
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: because he removed it15:04
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: if you can run the venv on your local machine and checkout the build/html file, you'll see it on master15:05
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: that's why I wrote in the code-review doc "please don't write a prelude unless you exactly know why you're doing so"15:06
johnthetubaguybauwser: confused, why can't we build that in the gate?15:06
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johnthetubaguybauwser: oh wait, I get you now, I am going blind15:09
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: sec, writing a reno change, you should see that in the gate15:09
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add note for deprecating local conductor  https://review.openstack.org/25084915:12
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: ^15:12
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: you should see a reno output with that one15:12
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: and I'll provide all the needed reno changes on that topic15:13
openstackgerritAndrew Bogott proposed openstack/nova: Prevent scheduling of instances on full hosts.  https://review.openstack.org/24225115:13
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johnthetubaguybauwser: yeah, I just didn't see it was a delete, and didn't see the current version had the silly text at the top, at least not until my 4th look at them both!15:16
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add note for force_config_drive opt change  https://review.openstack.org/25085215:21
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: quick question15:25
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: I'm reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220690/ because since there is an UpgradeImpact tag, we should add a reno file15:26
johnthetubaguybauwser: sure15:26
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: I just wonder what kind of explanation we should provide to ops for that :)15:26
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johnthetubaguybauwser: its for the continuous deployers I think15:27
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bauwserjohnthetubaguy: because unless they use the master branch directly having a continuous deployment...15:27
bauwseryeah that15:27
bauwserokay, I'll just make mention of what's in the tag15:27
johnthetubaguyif they don't deploy of master, there is nothing more than the usual upgrade process15:27
bauwserbecause that's internal refactoring15:27
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bauwserzactly15:27
bauwserthat's just for CD15:28
johnthetubaguyI mean it might be worth saying to deploy this tag you must be past that specific commit-id?15:28
johnthetubaguyI like how this exposes we have no pattern for currently communicating these things15:29
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bauwserheh15:30
bauwser16.30 here before the sunset arrives :)15:31
bauwser(even in the mountains)15:31
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: okay, I'll provide a note, we could discuss on that one15:31
markus_zdanpb: I guess the virtlogd spec will miss the spec freeze https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234291/ I'd like to use the exception process when it is opened. Can I say that you would sponsor this spec?15:32
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add note for dropping InstanceV1 objects  https://review.openstack.org/25085915:33
johnthetubaguybauwser: I think sun set is technically not till 3.54, but its dark enough now! I remember why folks what us to move to UTC+1 and UTC+2 now15:35
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johnthetubaguybauwser: question on bug fixes, are we meant to have them added in reno too?15:35
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: I feel so yeah, but after M-115:35
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markus_zjohnthetubaguy: I guess only really important ones15:36
johnthetubaguybauwser: but then it will not get into the official notes right?15:36
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: that said, the cursor is pretty vague15:36
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/code-review.html#when-a-release-note-is-needed15:36
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: I mentioned the critical ones, but only if that was impacting users, not only CI15:36
johnthetubaguybauwser: I was looking at this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249972/2/reno/create.py,cm15:36
bauwser(I mean the gate)15:37
danpbjohnthetubaguy: can i convince you to +2 this spec of mine https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230382/15:37
bauwserLOL15:37
bauwserjohnthetubaguy: that change sounds pretty defensive :p15:37
danpb...we've been trying to get this image prop override feature done since Grizzly :-)15:37
johnthetubaguydanpb: yeah, its on my list to get back to today15:37
danpbmarkus_z: sure, you still have time to find another +2 for it though15:38
danpbmarkus_z: i'll check it again now and +2 it myself15:38
markus_zdanpb: Thanks! I'll try to contact mikal again to see if I can convince him somehow.15:39
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add note for removing conductor RPC API v2  https://review.openstack.org/25086515:44
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openstackgerritArtom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Fix max concurrent builds's unlimited semaphore  https://review.openstack.org/23905415:59
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LyncosHi everyone... I got a wierd problem while activating Hugepages (1GB) for KVM on Kilo.... When I try to create a VM with 1GB huges pages .. in horizon I get that message:  invalid memory page size 0    I looked at the logs and cannot find out where that error is comming from... I guess it's generated by Horizon.. but I don't know why .. any idea where I can look >?16:00
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ndipanovsahid_, responded to your comment on this: https://review.openstack.org/22957516:01
ndipanovsahid, ^16:01
ndipanovmaybe reconsider the -116:01
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Only attempt to inject files if the injection disk exists  https://review.openstack.org/25087216:02
sahidndipanov: i already have replied16:02
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mdboothndipanov: ^^^ Seems like your area16:02
ndipanovsahid, I see - thanks16:04
mdboothDiff: +9, -2816:06
mdboothThat should be an instant +2 right there16:06
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ndipanovmdbooth, fancy16:09
openstackgerritArtom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova: Fix max concurrent builds's unlimited semaphore  https://review.openstack.org/23905416:12
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openstackgerritShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/nova-specs: support xbzrle compress for live migration  https://review.openstack.org/24846516:18
openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Only consider requested_destination  https://review.openstack.org/24883316:19
openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Add persistence to the RequestSpec object  https://review.openstack.org/21175316:19
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openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: Remove version hardcoding for 'show' method  https://review.openstack.org/22857816:23
openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: Bringing Glance v2 images to a uniform format  https://review.openstack.org/23169616:23
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gibijust to double check, nova midcycle is january 26-28 which means we will have three days (26th, 27th, 28th) to talk. Am I correct?16:34
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* gibi is trying to make a proper booking16:34
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danpbPaulMurray:   for midcycle hotel reservations made via the HP event website, do you know what the cancellation terms are ?16:34
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PaulMurraydanpb, good question16:40
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PaulMurraydanpb, I will chase it up - I know that you get the chance to change the booking16:40
danpbok thanks16:40
PaulMurrayyou get an email backing giving you a personal link that has options like that16:40
PaulMurraybut I will check what the actual cancelation policy is16:41
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PaulMurrayI'm affraid it will have to wait until monday now16:41
danpbnp, i'm off till wednesday shortly :-)16:41
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ndipanovPaulMurray, I am interested in the cancellation policy too16:41
PaulMurraywhy does every one want to cancel??16:42
danpbjust drop a mail to openstack-dev with info as & when you find out16:42
danpbPaulMurray:  lol, no, its company travel policy that we book fully cancellable/refundable rates :-(16:42
PaulMurrayI'll put it on the wiki page and web site and ML and anywhere else I can thing of16:42
ndipanovPaulMurray, I like to keep my options open... ;)16:43
ndipanovjk, what danpb said16:43
PaulMurrayI see - its a redhat thing - bauwser was asking too16:43
* danpb usually does his best to ignore travel policy rules where possible16:43
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PaulMurrayndipanov, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243096/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221732/ or no hotel cancellation policy !16:47
danpblol16:48
* PaulMurray doesn't normally try playing hard ball16:48
PaulMurray:)16:48
* mdbooth wonders if we can remove all the pre-grizzly compatibility code from libvirt images code16:49
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PaulMurrayAnyone tried live migration with ceph backing cinder and as shared storage for ephemerals?16:50
mdboothPaulMurray: Pretty sure that answer's yes, but not recently :)16:51
mdboothThat sounds like a 'how did this ever work?' question16:51
PaulMurrayIts actually a "did this ever work" question16:52
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mdboothA related class16:52
mdboothI'm almost certain I have done both individually on some version of RHOS16:53
mdboothNot sure if I've done both at once16:53
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PaulMurraythaks16:54
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bauwserPaulMurray: danpb: I received an email for the reservation with some further details, lemme check if there is some no-show16:55
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openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Optimize "open" method with context manager  https://review.openstack.org/25063117:00
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bauwserdanpb: PaulMurray: okay, no clear no-show policy, I guess it's the hotel default one17:02
bauwserbut I have a cancellation link17:02
danpbas long as its allows cancellation that's fine17:02
danpbif you no show without cancelling first you deserve to loose your money17:03
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openstackgerritMarkus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: WIP: config options: centralize libvirt options  https://review.openstack.org/25090717:08
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/25056517:46
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add support for shared volumes between guests  https://review.openstack.org/21250817:52
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Add service status notification  https://review.openstack.org/24567818:19
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Add infra for versioned notifications  https://review.openstack.org/24702418:19
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Adds json sample for the versioned notifications  https://review.openstack.org/24816718:19
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Make emitting versioned notifications configurable  https://review.openstack.org/24756418:19
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add enable-pci-api-function.rst  https://review.openstack.org/24466620:11
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/25056522:40
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/25097522:42
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openstackgerritMitsuhiro Tanino proposed openstack/nova-specs: Volume support for multi hypervisors  https://review.openstack.org/24598622:53
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add persistence to the RequestSpec object  https://review.openstack.org/21175323:10
openstackgerritLudovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Allow saving empty pci_device_pools in ComputeNode object  https://review.openstack.org/21604923:18
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openstackgerritAndrew Bogott proposed openstack/nova: Prevent scheduling of instances on full hosts.  https://review.openstack.org/24225123:24
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add note for force_config_drive opt change  https://review.openstack.org/25085223:53
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add note for deprecating local conductor  https://review.openstack.org/25084923:53
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add note for removing conductor RPC API v2  https://review.openstack.org/25086523:53
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add note for dropping InstanceV1 objects  https://review.openstack.org/25085923:53
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Fix reno warning for API DB relnote  https://review.openstack.org/25098623:53
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: force releasenotes warnings to be treated as errors  https://review.openstack.org/25098723:53
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/python-novaclient: force releasenotes warnings to be treated as errors  https://review.openstack.org/25098823:58

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