Tuesday, 2015-12-01

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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allow sending the migrate data objects over the wire  https://review.openstack.org/25158800:11
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openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova-specs: Making the live-migration API friendly  https://review.openstack.org/24554302:05
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openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova: Add note for HyperV 2008 drop of support  https://review.openstack.org/25140802:25
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova: Add note for force_config_drive opt change  https://review.openstack.org/25085202:25
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova: Add note for deprecating local conductor  https://review.openstack.org/25084902:25
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova: Add note for removing conductor RPC API v2  https://review.openstack.org/25086502:25
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova: Add note for automatic determination of compute_rpc version by service  https://review.openstack.org/25143202:25
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova: Add note for dropping InstanceV1 objects  https://review.openstack.org/25085902:25
openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova: Add note for Virtuozzo supporting snapshots  https://review.openstack.org/25142002:25
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openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: OVS agent updates the wrong port when using XenServer + Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/24284602:28
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openstackgerritaginwala proposed openstack/nova: fix free_gb value when scheduler receives None from compute  https://review.openstack.org/25076703:12
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openstackgerritaginwala proposed openstack/nova: fix free_gb value when scheduler receives None from compute  https://review.openstack.org/25076703:29
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Fix reclaim_instance_interval < 0 never delete instance completely  https://review.openstack.org/24853905:44
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openstackgerritJohn Hua proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: Support bare VHD image  https://review.openstack.org/24962705:56
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openstackgerritFelixLi proposed openstack/nova: Change the format of some inconsistent docstring  https://review.openstack.org/25164806:01
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/25165906:08
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/25166506:10
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openstackgerritJianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: OVS agent updates the wrong port when using XenServer + Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/24284606:25
openstackgerritaginwala proposed openstack/nova: fix free_gb value when scheduler receives None from compute  https://review.openstack.org/25076706:27
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/24272706:33
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openstackgerritJohn Hua proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: Support bare VHD image  https://review.openstack.org/24962706:45
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openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/nova-specs: Support live migration with macvtap SR-IOV  https://review.openstack.org/25138707:24
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AJaegernova cores, could you import translations again, please? Let's have them in for mitaka-1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242727/07:31
AJaegerjohnthetubaguy: ^07:31
openstackgerritxiexs proposed openstack/nova-specs: Support live migration with macvtap SR-IOV  https://review.openstack.org/25138707:34
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openstackgerrithuan proposed openstack/nova: XenAPI: Support neutron security group  https://review.openstack.org/25127107:57
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openstackgerritFelixLi proposed openstack/nova: Change the format of some inconsistent docstring  https://review.openstack.org/25164808:20
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Ritahello, every.08:29
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markus_zmikal: Are you around?09:13
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openstackgerritlyanchih proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Help msg about libvirt always default device names  https://review.openstack.org/24795109:16
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rpodolyakahey! could stable cores please review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/liberty+topic:fix_status_reporting,n,z ?09:18
pkholkinand this one too https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199569/09:20
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BobBalljohnthetubaguy: Is there any reason to run rotate_xen_guest_logs so frequently?  Once every 10 minutes should be sufficient I think?09:35
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openstackgerritlvdongbing proposed openstack/nova: Fix the issue instance not destroyed after evacuated  https://review.openstack.org/25010109:36
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sudiptondipanov, added the release note to this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245765/09:52
openstackgerritThelo Gaultier proposed openstack/nova: ITRI DISCO cinder driver  https://review.openstack.org/25174909:53
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ndipanovsudipto, yeah saw it - will look into it soon09:53
sudiptondipanov, sure..thanks a lot!09:53
sudiptondipanov, johnthetubaguy also added a spec (per John's comment) to fix the non-optimal use case for PPC. Would be great to get your thoughts on the same.09:54
sudiptohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/251296/09:55
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AJaegersudipto: have a look at your release note and review it on http://docs-draft.openstack.org/65/245765/7/check/gate-nova-releasenotes/085659d//releasenotes/build/html/unreleased.html#id109:58
AJaegerIt's in the features paragraph - and misses complete context IMO.09:58
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AJaeger"This fix" shows up from nowhere...09:58
sudiptohmm ok - basically - it's a fix that allows a feature kinda thing..since the feature of NUMA exists today - I just enabled it on PPC...what as per you should be the right section?09:59
sudiptoAJaeger, ^09:59
sudiptoAJaeger, or should it just be alright, if i alter the wordings to not have the word 'fix'?10:00
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AJaegersudipto: I commented on the review.10:01
AJaegerIf it's a fix, it's not a feature ;)10:01
AJaegerRewrite the text so that it works standalone, in the release note you loose the reference to your change.10:01
AJaegersudipto: So, better say "Enable NUMA on PPC"10:02
sudiptoAJaeger, alright! Sure thing.10:02
johnthetubaguyBobBall: I don't remember, it was a random choice. Never tested that on anything other than my dev box10:02
johnthetubaguyBobBall: I suspect I was really worried about users filling up the dom0 disk, and starving out other users10:03
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openstackgerritSudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Add ppc to supported arch for NUMA  https://review.openstack.org/24576510:05
openstackgerritShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/nova-specs: report more live migration progress detail  https://review.openstack.org/24847210:05
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BobBallUnderstood.  I think 10 minutes should be fine though by default10:06
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johnthetubaguyAJaeger: I have added the translations to the list of things I would like to wait for before cutting the release10:07
openstackgerritShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/nova-specs: report more live migration progress detail  https://review.openstack.org/24847210:08
AJaegerthanks, johnthetubaguy10:08
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markus_zHas anyone seen this py34 unit test error: "mox3.mox.UnexpectedMethodCallError: Unexpected method call Client.delete_port('my_portid1')"10:10
markus_zhttp://logs.openstack.org/07/250907/3/check/gate-nova-python34/d73accd/testr_results.html.gz10:10
openstackgerritShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/nova-specs: report more live migration progress detail  https://review.openstack.org/24847210:10
markus_zOnly 16 hits since 11/2310:10
markus_zsays logstash10:10
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markus_zI don't find a merged patch which looks like the root cause to me10:11
openstackgerritJohn Hua proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: Support bare VHD image  https://review.openstack.org/24962710:11
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wznoinskjohnthetubaguy: hi10:15
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wznoinskjohnthetubaguy: would you have a moment to comment nova-hot-add-vcpus-support that's in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-spec-review-tracking ?10:16
johnthetubaguywznoinsk: that will need a spec, due to the API impact10:17
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johnthetubaguywznoinsk: it sounds a lot like the live-resize spec that claudio from cloudbase had up for review, although I can't find that right now10:20
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wznoinskjohnthetubaguy: I wasn't planning to change the API but only how n-api is processing properties (I have to double check that yet), still needs a spec?10:20
johnthetubaguywznoinsk: yes, that would still need a spec10:21
wznoinskjohnthetubaguy: ok, is it by m1 spec or bp by m1 is enough?10:21
johnthetubaguywznoinsk: a lot of that spec feels out of scope for Nova, the automatic bits10:21
johnthetubaguywznoinsk: the specs and blueprints all need to be approved by Thursday this week, for mitaka10:21
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johnthetubaguywznoinsk: we have a backlog of over 90 specs right now, still in review, we have 98 blueprints already approved for mitaka, we only really have review bandwith for probably around 60-70 blueprint, its a tricky problem :(10:23
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wznoinskjohnthetubaguy: you're right, I'll rephrase the automatic use cases and include the better ones10:24
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wznoinskjohnthetubaguy: re the bandwidth you have, I can't help you with that, unfortunately for you I'll try to get the spec done asap and bug one of you again10:26
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johnthetubaguywznoinsk: understood, just trying to set expectations, we have lots of high priority specs we have not yet merged, unfortunately.10:29
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johnthetubaguywznoinsk: for the automatic cases, I would think more about what APIs you need in Nova to be able to create a tool that could do the automatic stuff outside of Nova.10:30
wznoinskjohnthetubaguy: I get it, as m1 is the deadline for the lower priority I feel you get more pressure now than later anyways10:30
PaulMurrayndipanov, been looking over your series: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bug/1417667,n,z10:30
PaulMurrayI will ask others to in the IRC meeting today.10:30
PaulMurrayMay have questions -- I got half way through10:31
ndipanovPaulMurray, when's the meeting?10:31
PaulMurraylive migration10:31
wznoinskjohnthetubaguy: understood10:31
PaulMurrayhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration10:31
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Add mks enablement for python client  https://review.openstack.org/25177010:31
PaulMurray1400UTC10:31
PaulMurrayndipanov, ^^10:31
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: we need to +W this one for merging all the notes, happy with that ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250852/610:33
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johnthetubaguybauzas: was just trying to find that topic, I will take a peak10:37
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I'm also preparing http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/080692.html10:38
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johnthetubaguybauzas: OK, I just started a list here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking10:38
johnthetubaguybauzas: we can use that to track anything we are waiting for10:38
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: nice !10:38
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johnthetubaguybauzas: I think all those reno ones should be heading towards the gate now, are we missing any?10:45
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: no, I think we're okay for nova10:45
bauzas(not speaking of the client)10:45
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johnthetubaguybauzas: I was really meaning, are we looking like they are all approved now?10:45
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: all of them are having the same topic, so lemme check10:46
bauzasI saw mikal providing a new PS for the series10:46
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: yeah, all of them are +W'd10:46
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tangchenjohnthetubaguy, bauzas, alex_xu: Hi guys. About this spec:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229282/10:48
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: since the translation patch should be merged before the last reno patch, I'll prep the release patch for the last reno patch SHA with a -W10:48
tangchenjohnthetubaguy, bauzas, alex_xu: If the ironic spec missed Mitaka, is there any chance this could be implemented in nova in Mitaka ?10:48
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johnthetubaguybauzas: OK, sounds like a good start10:49
johnthetubaguytangchen: not really10:49
bauzastangchen: I agree with mikal, we should wait for the Ironic spec to be approved10:49
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johnthetubaguytangchen: we don't want to merge this no one can use or tests, and if ironic changes the design you will end up having to re-work the feature before its usable, etc. Its just too messy not to make that a hard dependency10:50
johnthetubaguytangchen: we currently have 98 blueprints approved, and we are likely to only merge 60 or 70 blueprints, so its a good set of things I would rather we delayed10:51
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tangchenjohnthetubaguy, bauzas, alex_xu: OK, understood. Thanks. And let's wait for ironic. :)10:51
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, with respect to your comment on a blueprint for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245765/ - is the bug not good enough?10:59
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, basically the NUMA was supported on PPC - before we started filtering it out on arch type.11:00
openstackgerritJian LI proposed openstack/nova: check isntances az when updating host aggregate  https://review.openstack.org/25178811:00
johnthetubaguysudipto: its OK, but it does sound like a feature, which could/should be a spec-less blueprint, but now we have reno, I will not block on that, its just going to make our review priority tooling a bit tricker11:00
johnthetubaguysudipto: I would not want to merge that after feature freeze, for exmaple.11:01
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, ah i see. got your point...11:01
openstackgerritJian LI proposed openstack/nova: check isntances az when updating host aggregate  https://review.openstack.org/25178811:02
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johnthetubaguysudipto: the comment was more me thinking out loud than anything, given we have reno, whats the point of specless blueprints, well, probably still tracking, but its lost some of its usefulness.11:05
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openstackgerritJian LI proposed openstack/nova: check instances az when updating host aggregate  https://review.openstack.org/25178811:06
openstackgerritJian LI proposed openstack/nova: check instances az when updating host aggregate  https://review.openstack.org/25178811:06
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, yeah :) but I guess you are saying - with release notes how do we mark deadlines for features?11:07
bauzassudipto: see http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/code-review.html#when-a-release-note-is-needed11:07
sudiptobauzas, yeah read that one. Thx.11:08
bauzassudipto: tl; dr: additive changes are generally seen as features, while susbtractive changes are seen as impacting users, so upgrade notes11:09
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sudiptobauzas, ah ok :)11:09
bauzassudipto: that really depends on if the deployer has to do some specific actions11:09
sudiptobauzas, hmm yeah...11:11
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: can't find beta releases (ie. milestones) in the openstack/releases repo for liberty, I guess we only used the new tool for the final release?11:12
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: and we were tagging the milestones by hand before liberty GA, correct?11:12
bauzas(that said, I can check the ML to see when the new repo has been introduced)11:13
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johnthetubaguybauzas: I understood the opposite, we use that repo for milestones now (I think the first one will be a manual tag, then we need to drop that version stuff in the tree).11:14
johnthetubaguyactually a bit worried we use the version in the code somewhere, that will need checking...11:14
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: okay, checking more the git history then11:14
johnthetubaguybauzas: I think its just a case of the version being in a beta form?11:14
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: sorry, I was unclear, I'm just looking at the openstack/releases repo for the nova.yaml files11:14
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: not speaking of the pbr versioning using setup.cfg11:15
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Replaces __builtin__ with six.moves.builtins  https://review.openstack.org/23802911:15
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Enables py3 unit tests for libvirt.host module  https://review.openstack.org/23813411:16
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: oh nevermind I understood11:17
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: we never did that because we were not using that11:17
johnthetubaguybauzas: not till just now, I think11:17
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: yup11:17
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: because now we want to use git tags for getting the good version11:18
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: so that's why we need to cut off the beta tag *before* removing the version in setup.cfg11:18
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bauzasso pbr could introspect the git repo and see that tag for the versioning11:19
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PaulMurrayndipanov, if you could give these a quick look over today it would be very helpful: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243096/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221732/11:22
PaulMurrayndipanov, I think others will be looking for your comments before allowing them through11:22
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johnthetubaguybauzas: agreed11:25
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PaulMurrayndipanov, looking at the first patch in your series: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244484/2/nova/compute/manager.py11:28
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PaulMurrayndipanov, I can't see which patch adds claims code to check_can_live_migrate_destination()11:29
PaulMurrayndipanov, never mind - I found it11:29
ndipanovPaulMurray, the last one11:30
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Only attempt to inject files if the injection disk exists  https://review.openstack.org/25087211:30
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openstackgerritCindia-blue proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Enable Fault tolerance on VM  https://review.openstack.org/25180711:31
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xiexs_hi, all, could anybody help me review a specs? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251387/11:35
xiexs_which is about the live migration with sr-iov11:35
xiexs_thanks in advance.11:35
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ndipanovPaulMurray, that series is reasonably tricky11:36
ndipanovso I don't expect express turnaround on this11:37
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ndipanovbut it has been getting no reviews11:37
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PaulMurrayndipanov, the easy ones have reviews :)11:40
PaulMurrayI'm picking my way through it11:41
wznoinskclaudiub: ping11:42
claudiubwznoinsk: hello11:42
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wznoinskclaudiub: I'm looking at your instance live resize spec, I like it, are you focusing on hyper-v only or others too?11:46
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claudiubwznoinsk: Since I'm specialized in Hyper-V stuff, at least I am working on the implementation for it. But a lot of people volunteered to pitch in for their respective drivers: vmware, libvirt, virtuozzo, etc.11:48
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claudiubwznoinsk: so, the final goal of the blueprint is to have it in all the drivers.11:48
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* alex_xu reminders nova-api meeting in 10 mins11:49
claudiubbauzas: hello. Still waiting for that spec review on exposing host capabilities. :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222200/11:49
wznoinskclaudiub: sure thing, I'm interested in the libvirt the most, do you have helpers working on it already?11:49
claudiubwznoinsk: yeah, there are a few people. Check the comments on the previous patchsets. I think xs3c last volunteered for libvirt.11:51
claudiubjohnthetubaguy: speaking of which, could we get the instance live-resize spec approved for this cycle? At least the 1st phase? There are more and more people desiring that feature and volunteering to help on its implementation.11:53
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ndipanovPaulMurray, I was gonna +1 the other one but noticed one issue11:53
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bauzasclaudiub: sure, I'm just prepping the milestone but I'll look at the specs by this afternoon :)11:57
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claudiubbauzas: cool, thanks, I would really like to implement that feature this cycle. :)11:58
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PaulMurrayndipanov, thanks - the first is an easy update. The race condition I'll think over - got to go to API meeting now. Appreciate your time11:58
ndipanovclaudiub, what's the link to that spec11:58
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ndipanovPaulMurray, yeah no worries11:58
claudiubndipanov: posted it above, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222200/11:58
bauzasclaudiub: ack, that said, please note I'm not a nova-drivers so you'll have to wait for other insights11:58
ndipanovclaudiub, no the live resize one - sorry11:59
claudiubbauzas: That's fine, I really want your expertise from the scheduler perspective.11:59
bauzasfine11:59
claudiubbauzas: the driver's implementation is fairly trivial.12:00
claudiubndipanov: sure, thanks for the interest. :) : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141219/1012:00
alex_xunova api meeting is running~12:00
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ndipanovclaudiub, ah so that'12:01
ndipanovs just about making hyperv driver do the right thing12:01
ndipanovnot about adding this as new functionality in Nova12:01
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claudiubndipanov: you mean the instance live-resize?12:01
ndipanovyeah12:02
claudiubndipanov: it is about adding it as a new functionality in nova12:02
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ndipanovclaudiub, :/12:02
claudiubndipanov: and ofc, it will be implemented by all the drivers.12:02
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openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: report pci Type-PF type even when VFs are disabled  https://review.openstack.org/22716012:17
openstackgerritAlexander Schmidt proposed openstack/nova: WIP libvirt: use native AIO mode for image backends  https://review.openstack.org/24739612:17
openstackgerritAlexander Schmidt proposed openstack/nova: WIP libvirt: use native AIO mode for cinder volumes  https://review.openstack.org/25182912:17
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pkholkinmdbooth, sdague: Hello guys. Could you please look at this enginefacade patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243496/? It is an example of current concept related to 'use_slave' logic. Please take into account comments from johnthetubaguy and rpodolyaka12:18
openstackgerritShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/nova-specs: report more live migration progress detail  https://review.openstack.org/24847212:19
openstackgerritSatoru Moriya proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add support for booting bare metals from Cinder volume  https://review.openstack.org/21110112:19
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PaulMurrayndipanov, I think the race condition you brought up on detach boot volume is actually just a particular case of the race condition between12:23
PaulMurrayndipanov, vol attach/detach and any state change operation.12:24
PaulMurrayndipanov, that is being addressed by another spec and a solution there would apply here also12:24
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PaulMurrayndipanov, So I could just note that this race condition does exist and could result in the instance going to error state if unshelved at same time12:25
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PaulMurrayndipanov, as detaching boot volume.12:25
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PaulMurrayndipanov, and say the issue is being dealt with in the other spec.12:25
PaulMurrayndipanov, does that sound reasonable?12:25
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ndipanovPaulMurray, got a link to that spec?12:27
PaulMurrayndipanov, hold on12:28
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PaulMurrayndipanov, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216578/12:29
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Adds spec for instance live resize  https://review.openstack.org/14121912:29
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PaulMurrayndipanov, my point is that the race is a flaw that holds for all volume operations at the moment12:29
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ndipanovPaulMurray, the race I was thinking about is with unshelve particularly12:31
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ndipanovyou could have an unshelve racing with a detach root volume12:31
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ndipanovso detach but unshelve also goes through to the compute host12:31
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Remove version from setup.cfg  https://review.openstack.org/25184412:39
PaulMurrayndipanov, in discussion on other channel....12:39
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: doc: add server status to concept.rst  https://review.openstack.org/25138312:42
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Split-network-plane-for-live-migration  https://review.openstack.org/24500512:43
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pkholkindansmith: Hello Dan. Could you please look at this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250807/? What do you think about it and related comments there?12:47
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pkholkinI think in this case we can have two equal rows with different ids, maybe we should add some uniqueconstraint or sorting to get the same value by '.first'12:49
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dimssdague : johnthetubaguy : so question is, when if at all should we let this change in? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198065/13:01
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sdaguedims: I'm fine with it now. I was hoping to get the other feature in the last cycle before it came in, but it doesn't seem useful to hold it up on a mystery feature of unknown landing13:02
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dimssdague : thanks! unfortunately :(13:02
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johnthetubaguydims: +1 sdague's comment there13:05
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jichenjohnthetubaguy: could you please help to take a look at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-hot-add-vcpus-support because you mentioned in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-spec-review-tracking that the original content is not enough?13:08
johnthetubaguyjichen: I added a comment on there saying it would need a spec to get approved13:08
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johnthetubaguyjichen: claudiub has a very similar spec up for review already though, of live-resize, or something like that13:09
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johnthetubaguyjichen: teaming together to get a hyper-v and libvirt implementation at the same time would be an interesting way forward with that spec13:10
jichenjohnthetubaguy: ok, wznoinsk mentioned this to me , I thought it might be a little different to mine, anyway, I will take a look at the spec ,thanks~13:10
johnthetubaguyjichen: sorry, confused about the context here13:10
johnthetubaguyjichen: you say "different to mine"? do you have a similar blueprint or spec somewhere?13:11
jichenjohnthetubaguy: sorry, I copied wrong link....https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/add-hw-cpu-caps is mine13:12
jichenjohnthetubaguy: sorry, opened 2 window and copied wrong one13:12
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johnthetubaguyjichen: ah... no worried, now I understand your question more13:13
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johnthetubaguyjichen: was there a spec up for that blueprint somehwere?13:14
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jichenno, I thought it's a specless blueprint, so I didn't write it13:16
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johnthetubaguyjichen: OK, maybe it was just the blueprint I read then, re-reading that, it seems different to when I read that before13:17
openstackgerritSudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Add ppc to supported arch for NUMA  https://review.openstack.org/24576513:17
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Remove onSharedStorage from evacuate API  https://review.openstack.org/24356213:18
jichenjohnthetubaguy: Feels like this one needs a spec, or at least more details in the blueprint definition (johnthetubaguy)13:18
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lucasagomeshi all, if you have some time mind taking a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226235/ ? This does help mitigate a problem between scheduling instances for Nova + Ironic13:18
claudiubjichen: hi, this is the spec mentioned by johnthetubaguy:13:18
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jichenclaudiub: ok, wznoinsk told me about it  this morning :)13:19
openstackgerritShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/nova-specs: report more live migration progress detail  https://review.openstack.org/24847213:19
claudiubjichen: ok. :)13:19
lucasagomesfwiw, people have tested that patch and commented at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1257950 with the results13:19
openstackbugzilla.redhat.com bug 1257950 in openstack-nova "NodeAssociated errors due to apparent race condition between nova-scheduler and ironic" [Unspecified,New] - Assigned to eglynn13:19
johnthetubaguyjichen: so I am confused (have a really bad cold today, and thats totally not helping!), what is the CPU cap thing trying to do? this feels like the existing limits feature we have, now I re-read this13:20
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shaohe_fengjohnthetubaguy:  have updae the spec : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139910/13:22
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jichenjohnthetubaguy: we already have the feature? I am not aware about the limit we have, this is for CPU sharing ,so some hypervisors can set this to the CPU and some instance's CPU can be prioirty 100 , and the other might have 200 ,so the one has 200 got more cpu than the one has 10013:23
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openstackgerritTomi Juvonen proposed openstack/nova: Add host_status attribute for servers/detail and servers/{server_id}  https://review.openstack.org/24156213:24
jichenjohnthetubaguy: take care :)13:25
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johnthetubaguyjichen: I am thinking about this one: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/liberty/implemented/vmware-limits.html13:26
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jichenjohnthetubaguy: ok, I am not aware of this ,will take a look , thanks~13:26
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add note for HyperV 2008 drop of support  https://review.openstack.org/25140813:26
rpodolyakahey, stable maintainers! could you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/liberty+topic:fix_status_reporting,n,z ?13:27
johnthetubaguyjichen: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L358813:27
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pkholkinmdbooth, sdague: Hello guys. Could you please look at this enginefacade patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243496/? It is an example of current concept related to 'use_slave' logic. Please take into account comments from johnthetubaguy and rpodolyaka13:28
jichenjohnthetubaguy: ok, you are right, this seems already done, will take a detailed look to confirm this ,thanks~~13:28
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johnthetubaguyjichen: what would be great, is help to properly document all that13:31
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johnthetubaguyjichen: actually, and idea that would be interesting, is to take a look at what we have done for image properties, and do the same for flavor extra_specs, so its easier to see what is supported: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/image_meta.py13:33
jichenjohnthetubaguy: sure yes, I will do it if I can't find it anywhere ,13:33
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add note for HyperV 2008 drop of support  https://review.openstack.org/25140813:34
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add note for automatic determination of compute_rpc version by service  https://review.openstack.org/25143213:34
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add note for Virtuozzo supporting snapshots  https://review.openstack.org/25142013:34
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jichenjohnthetubaguy: ok, I will do it ,thanks for the info13:34
openstackgerritMitsuhiro Tanino proposed openstack/nova-specs: Volume support for multi hypervisors  https://review.openstack.org/24598613:34
johnthetubaguyjichen: happy I could help13:34
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I had to rebase the whole reno series because of a merge issue, could you please fast-approve the left ones ? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:reno_nova-m1,n,z13:39
openstackgerritPaul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Cancel ongoing live migrations  https://review.openstack.org/22882813:39
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openstackgerritSudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Add ppc to supported arch for NUMA  https://review.openstack.org/24576513:41
openstackgerritPaul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Cancel ongoing live migrations  https://review.openstack.org/22882813:41
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claudiubjohnthetubaguy: anyways, can we get the instance live-resize thingy approved in this cycle? I don't want it postponed again. :(13:47
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johnthetubaguybauzas: done13:48
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: coolio thanks13:48
kaisersalexschm: Hi! FYI: Regarding the aio=native qemu discussions some more info is here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/480498/  (Hope i'm reaching out to the right person)13:48
johnthetubaguyclaudiub: I am not sure we have enough concenus on that right now, do you have a link to that one, its dropped out my lists?13:48
kaisers(a bit too much to post into the comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232514/)13:48
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: also, FYI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251805/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251844/13:48
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kashyapkaisers: I was taking notes, and was formatting it into a paragraph from that discussion.  Probably worth it to paste it into the review itself I wonder13:49
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claudiubjohnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141219/13:51
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johnthetubaguyclaudiub: oh, it is in my list, I missed it somehow13:52
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: Enhance value check for option notify_on_state_change  https://review.openstack.org/24271713:58
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alexschmkaisers: okay thank you!13:59
alexschmkaisers: interesting, you got answers from people who sit in the same building as me :-)14:00
kaisersalexschm: :-D14:01
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mdboothPaulMurray: meeting?14:02
kaisersalexschm: An interesting point came up a bit later on: prealloc is faster with native but threads may be faster with sparse images. Not sure this helps the spec but seems to be worth mentioning14:02
alexschmkaisers: but there weren't many comments from core reviewers so I doubt the spec will make the deadline14:03
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: Workaround to mitigate bug #1341420  https://review.openstack.org/22623514:03
openstackbug 1341420 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "gap between scheduler selection and claim causes spurious failures when the instance is the last one to fit" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1341420 - Assigned to Lucas Alvares Gomes (lucasagomes)14:03
markus_zAnyone from vmware here?14:03
PaulMurraylive migration meeting on openstack-meeting-3: PaulMurray paul-carlton2 eliqiao shaohe_feng pkoniszewski jlanoux yuntongjin mdbooth kashyap14:03
kaiserskashyap: Hey! yep, feel free to add. The discussions seems to mill about on the question what exactly is faster. No longer if there's an instability or not14:03
kaisersalexschm: yep. :-(  I've been looking for occasions to promote this to a core without getting on his/her nerves but that didn't really work14:04
kashyapkaisers: Yeah, though the way that question is phrased ('which is faster') implies that it's applicable in all scenarios for either modes.14:04
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: doc: update threading.rst  https://review.openstack.org/19901314:06
kaiserskashyap: question in the mail? Or the spec? or somewhere else? We originally relied on the point that aio=native is faster in almost every case and that, i think the libvirt team, said they plan to improve aio=native to be faster in all cases14:06
kaiserskashyap: danpb reported that in an earlier comment on that spec, iirc14:07
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kashyapkaisers: Question on IRC :-) To which Kevin replied: "it's ['aio=native'] faster, except when it isn't"14:08
kaiserskashyap: ah, yep. I remember that one! :-D14:08
kashyapkaisers: If you want attention, probably might want to bump up that thread on dev list.14:09
kashyapGiven that that dev list a ton of noise, useful stuff like this gets drowned14:09
markus_zclaudiub: Do you see the need for additional patches for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1220256 ? AFAIKT there is no progress since March.14:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1220256 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Hyper-V driver needs tests for WMI WQL instructions" [Medium,Incomplete] - Assigned to Claudiu Belu (cbelu)14:09
alexschmkaisers: yeah I also asked for comments a couple of times but apparently the topic is not attracting much attention14:09
kaiserskashyap: one persons noise is another persons useful info... ;-D14:09
kashyapkaisers: True, I was just being mean. :P14:10
kaiserskashyap: Bumping up that thread is a nice idea however, should do that...14:10
claudiubmarkus_z: pretty sure they were covered. Also, no longer affecting nova, since we have os-win now.14:10
claudiubmarkus_z: so, any low level stuff, like those queries are in os-win14:11
markus_zclaudiub: I see, good to know, I did miss that14:11
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claudiubmarkus_z: thanks for pointing that out! :)14:11
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: use NoDBTestCase for KeypairPolicyTest  https://review.openstack.org/23272114:12
markus_zclaudiub: So, new bugs which are comming in for this area, do I move them just to "os-win" in LP?14:13
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claudiubmarkus_z: Hmm, hard to say. So, all the Hyper-V *utils classes are being removed from nova and the os-win are being used instead. I'd say a lot of the bugs are solvable within os-win, but not necessarely.14:15
claudiubmarkus_z: there are still Hyper-V *ops classes in nova that do not belong in os-win. :)14:16
markus_zclaudiub: I see. So it still makes sense to keep them coming for "nova" as project, tag them with "hyperv", ping you folks and then we see if "os-win" or "nova" is the right one?14:16
claudiubmarkus_z: yep, that is correct. :)14:17
markus_zclaudiub: cool, I'll do so, thanks! :)14:17
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yongliheHEADS-UP, Intel PCI/SRIO CI,  from 12/1 to 12/2, the Lab is in maintenance,  these CI need to be Offline 24 Hours, sorry.14:30
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markus_zmelwitt: Do you have a minute?14:38
dansmithmarkus_z: probably too early for her14:39
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openstackgerritSergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added db API layer to add instance tag-list filtering support  https://review.openstack.org/24880514:40
markus_zdansmith: OK, I'll try later. Which timezone is she in?14:40
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dansmithmarkus_z: PST14:40
dansmithmarkus_z: same as me14:40
bauzasbut some guys work at 6.30am heh )14:41
dansmithright14:41
dansmith<-- some guy14:41
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markus_zdansmith: uuhh, damn, that's early, I leave you in peace14:42
dansmithheh14:43
kashyapdansmith: Do you ever break your schedule?14:43
dansmithkashyap: nope14:43
kashyapdansmith: I mean, like 'accidentally' staying up too late working on a feature, and sleep at 4 AM, and boom, routine breaks :-)14:43
dansmithkashyap: nope14:43
kashyapdansmith: Okay, I'll learn something from this.14:43
kashyapThanks.14:43
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dansmithhmm, that doesn't sound good :)14:44
kashyapNo, no, it's positive - inspiration. :-)14:44
openstackgerritSergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Changed filter_by() to filter() during filtering instances in db API  https://review.openstack.org/24567714:46
dansmithheh14:46
openstackgerritSergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added server tags support in nova-api  https://review.openstack.org/12894014:46
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markus_zI wrote my first elastic recheck query and it would be cool if someone with a bit experience could have a look at it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251868/14:51
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tdurakovjohnthetubaguy, hi again15:00
tdurakovabout voting ci15:00
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tdurakovjob is in experimental pipeline, and afair we decided to move it to check when i finish with ceph for this15:01
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ndipanovPaulMurray, thanks for bringing my series up15:03
johnthetubaguytdurakov: OK, was just wondering if its worth getting that voting already, then adding ceph, maybe its not worth the bother?15:03
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: okay, all the reno patches merged, we are now all good for cutting off the milestone when you want15:03
tdurakovjohnthetubaguy, well, we could make it voting before ceph15:04
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johnthetubaguybauzas: cools15:04
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251805/3 is for the moment having -W so in case we need to have a new change for M-1, lemme know and I'll drop a new PS15:04
tdurakovit will check block migration and nfs for ephemerals15:04
johnthetubaguymarkus_z: dansmith: have you folks seen anything that should block M-1 at this point?15:04
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: if not, we could just remove the -W when we decide to cut15:05
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johnthetubaguymriedem: ^15:05
markus_zjohnthetubaguy: no, nothing I'm aware of15:05
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dansmithjohnthetubaguy: not really15:05
mriedemwe have a regression but not blocking15:05
markus_zmriedem: which one?15:05
mriedemhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/152134015:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1521340 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "BDMNotFound race while building resources since 11/27" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)15:05
mriedemwe reverted the suspect change but i'm still seeing hits in logstash after it was merged15:06
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markus_zHm, yeah, I saw it this morning but though your revert fixed it15:06
mriedemmaybe it did, it's kind of early to tell with logstash15:07
mriedemhttp://logstash.openstack.org/#dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=message:%5C%22BDMNotFound:%20No%20Block%20Device%20Mapping%20with%20id%5C%22%20AND%20message:%5C%22_default_block_device_names%5C%22%20AND%20tags:%5C%22screen-n-cpu.txt%5C%22%20AND%20NOT%20build_queue:%5C%22experimental%5C%2215:07
johnthetubaguyOK, that all sounds promising15:07
mriedemanyway, not blocking15:07
johnthetubaguybauzas: I think we go for it, if you remove the -W, I can +1 it15:07
markus_zmriedem: I don't understand why you said it's too early to tell with logstash. What am I missing?15:08
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: we can hold until tomorrow noon UTC if we need another patch15:08
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: the deadline is by Thur15:08
PaulMurrayndipanov, sorry it was squeezed in at the end15:08
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: AFAICT, we are the first project to provide a milestone yet15:08
johnthetubaguybauzas: yeah, its good to tag on Tuesday if we can though, lots of specs to review before thursday :)15:09
mriedemmarkus_z: i think the revert might have cleaned it up, when you use that logstash query ^ and filter by 2 days15:09
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johnthetubaguybauzas: so I should try check the blueprints...15:09
mriedemyou see it drop off ater 11/3015:09
mriedemi was wondering if it didn't work b/c there were still hits showing up on 12/1, but maybe those are just tz adjustments15:10
openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Making the live-migration API friendly  https://review.openstack.org/24554315:10
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mdboothtdurakov pkoniszewski: Shared storage detection. We currently have direct communication between the destination and source. My proposal, which I've made for cold migration but which is probably also relevant to live migration, is that the destination looks at what it's already got for the instance. If the storage already exists, we assume this is because it's shared, and we don't transfer it. This requires some disc15:11
mdboothipline which we don't currently have around storage creation.15:11
markus_zmriedem: I see, an uncertainty because of the timezones15:11
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: okay, we can just comment in the ML saying all is now good for a milestone tag unless someone cries15:11
johnthetubaguybauzas: not a bad idea15:11
bauzasand define tomorrow noon UTC as the ETA15:11
bauzasokay, doing that now15:12
pkoniszewskigot it15:12
pkoniszewskibut soon we won't have direct communication between destination and source, will we?15:12
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notmorgansdague: so digging into this more, there are places all over the code that are calling into methods/functions that construct glance URLs in their own special way - a bunch of them are notification only but also will be incorrect with these changes15:13
notmorgansdague: this is definitely a rabbit hole.15:13
johnthetubaguydansmith: I guess we leave this open while we add the signal to recalculate the pins? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/service-version-behavior15:13
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: yeah15:14
mriedemfyi, performance meeting in #openstack-performance happening now15:14
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lxslioh that reminds me15:16
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lxsliam I dumb and/or do we routinely join using string keys? (UUIDs)15:16
lxsliwouldn't joining on 128b ints be faster?15:16
baolicores, can you take a look at this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233095/. Thanks15:17
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baoliaggregate_instance_extra_specs should look at its own keys. It's a simple fix, and has gotten a couple of +1s. thanks again15:18
bauzasbaoli: looking15:19
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notmorgansdague: and there appears to be 3 different ways glance image refs are processed with completely different code paths (again excluding the ick of the Xen plugin that passes the data down from the top)15:21
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notmorgansdague: i am not sure how to tackle this since everything seems to do it in different manners.15:21
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Remove version from setup.cfg  https://review.openstack.org/25184415:22
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baolibauzas, thanks15:23
bauzasbaoli: well, you just hit the main problem I hate with the filters UX :)15:24
* notmorgan starts by removing the unused code bits.15:25
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ansiwen@dansmith: I know it doesn't have a high priority, but what about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247773/ that you tagged for backporting?15:25
bauzasbaoli: which is that we leave the filters define the metadata tags they want to use, without really checking if another filter is using the same taxonomy15:25
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baolibauzas: you are talking about the scope?15:27
dansmithansiwen: not high priority, as tonyb said in the review15:27
bauzasyup15:27
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BobBallnotmorgan: BTW - looks like you forgot to add 'glance_path_prefix' to download_vhd function so all XenServer tests failed :)15:29
bauzasbaoli: the problem is that the ComputeCapabilitiesFilter defines the same scope than the AggregateInstanceExtraSpecsFilter15:29
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baolibauzas, are they using the same scope name? I don't see tht.15:31
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bauzasbaoli: no, but if the key is not having the ':', then they will review the same tag15:31
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openstackgerritMitsuhiro Tanino proposed openstack/nova-specs: Volume support for multi hypervisors  https://review.openstack.org/24598615:32
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bauzasbaoli: that's a known issue, if you mix those 2 filters, then you have to be super-cautious about the key names15:32
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baolibauzas: I see. So you are saying both filters look at tags not qualified with their own scope(s)?15:34
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openstackgerritMorgan Fainberg proposed openstack/nova: Remove unused glance function and tests  https://review.openstack.org/25192615:36
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mdboothWhat does dsvm stand for?15:37
baolibauzas, yeah, ComputeCapabilitiesFilter has similar logic15:37
artommdbooth, dev stack virtual machine15:38
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mdboothartom: Thanks. Thought it would be more profound than that :)15:38
artommdbooth, if you prefer, "Damn son, sick moves"15:38
artomWait - no.15:38
* artom fails at acronyms :(15:38
bauzasbaoli: I just left a comment15:39
shaohe_fengjohnthetubaguy:  mikal: update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248472/   .15:39
bauzasbaoli: tbh, that's a big operator impact if you want to only accept scoped tags15:39
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bauzasbaoli: so, I'm very +1 for that, but we should be very cautious about the upgrade impact15:39
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baolibauzas, ok, so non-scoped tags are supposed to be accepted for now?15:41
bauzasright15:42
bauzasbecause operators use that15:42
bauzasso we need to wait one cycle before removing that15:42
* bauzas really needs to drop off for a bit15:42
baolibauzas, ok.15:43
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Making the live-migration API friendly  https://review.openstack.org/24554315:44
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shaohe_fengbaoli: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139910/ thank you.15:48
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baolishaohe_feng: sure15:48
shaohe_fengbaoli:  thank you.15:49
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baolishaohe_feng: np15:50
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova-specs: Making the live-migration API friendly  https://review.openstack.org/24554315:52
notmorganBobBall: as per sdague that review is dead15:54
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ansiwendansmith: shall I ping you from time to time on that, or just shut up? :-)15:55
notmorganBobBall: so now instead i'm trying to convert nova to use the catalog instead. however, there is code scattered all over that handles images in different manners15:55
dansmithansiwen: it'll get hit as stable maint people process the backlog15:55
dansmithansiwen: usually in batches15:55
ansiwendansmith: ok, I see15:56
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tdurakovpkoniszewski, ping16:01
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pkoniszewskitdurakov: yes?16:01
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: api: add soft-affinity policies for server groups  https://review.openstack.org/14752016:01
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: scheduler: fill RequestSpec.instance_group.members  https://review.openstack.org/14827716:01
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: scheduler: add soft-(anti-)affinity weighers  https://review.openstack.org/14751616:01
tdurakovpkoniszewski, is this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227278/ you are interested to check nfs for?16:02
pkoniszewskiyes16:03
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tdurakovpkoniszewski, https://jenkins07.openstack.org/job/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-live-migration/11/console16:03
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tdurakovlooks like all tests pass with nfs too16:03
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pkoniszewskitdurakov: thanks a lot!16:04
tdurakovmaybe there is not enough tests in tempest though16:04
tdurakovbut, all we have pass16:04
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baolishaohe_feng: a temp -1 to clarify a sentence.16:10
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snikitinzzzeek: Hi! could you please look at the nova tags patch again? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248805/16:12
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BobBallunderstood notmorgan16:14
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openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: report pci Type-PF type even when VFs are disabled  https://review.openstack.org/22716016:19
notmorganBobBall: but to be frank, i'm hitting the point where I am out of my depth and don't really want to derail myself this far for days to fix the bug.16:19
andrearosasdague: if you have time https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184537/ I replied to your comment, let me know if you still think I should get rid of the call to cinder16:20
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notmorganso i might be bowing out of fixing this because the scope is just too large for the time i'm allocating myself to address it. [converting to catalog looking is a bit all over the code]16:20
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wznoinskwould someone know the reason to have all relevant image properties as flavor's extra spec is capabilities filter does check only the latter?16:32
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dansmithjohnthetubaguy: did you cut m1 already?16:37
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: this one could probably use your ack, and would be good to get in: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226235/16:37
johnthetubaguydansmith: not yet, I don't think16:37
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: Use ironicclient native retries for connection errors  https://review.openstack.org/21109716:38
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: okay, well, that one might be good to slip in16:38
johnthetubaguydansmith: yeah, not a bad idea, looking16:38
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: hardware: stop using instance cell topology in CPU pinning logic  https://review.openstack.org/22957416:41
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Fix CPU pinning for odd number of CPUs w hyperthreading  https://review.openstack.org/22957516:41
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'CPUThreadAllocationPolicy' enum field  https://review.openstack.org/20264716:41
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'cpu_policy' and 'cpu_thread_policy' fields  https://review.openstack.org/20264816:41
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw:cpu_thread_policy=require' scheduling  https://review.openstack.org/20265116:41
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: objects: lazy-load instance.security_groups more efficiently  https://review.openstack.org/25196516:48
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ildikovmriedem: hi16:51
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ildikovmriedem: I'm working on to get the Add support for shared volumes between guests spec in shape for Mitaka16:52
ildikovmriedem: I heard that you have background with volume attachments16:53
ildikovmriedem: can I ask you for a spec review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21250816:53
johnthetubaguydansmith: seems like that patch is missing unit tests, but my head is fuzzy today, stupid col16:54
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dansmithjohnthetubaguy: oh? lemme look.. I assumed since it was +2d and touched tests16:54
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dansmithjohnthetubaguy: yeah, I guess you're right16:57
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ildikovjohnthetubaguy: hi17:00
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ildikovjohnthetubaguy: sorry to hear about the cold, I hope at least your car is good by now17:00
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: can you check the multi-attach spec, whether there are still more concerns if you have a few minutes?17:00
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johnthetubaguyildikov: yeah, car survived its service OK17:01
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ildikovjohnthetubaguy: I know the deadline is close for spec proposals, so it would be good to see if there is still smth major to fix17:01
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johnthetubaguyildikov: yeah, need to look at that17:02
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sdagueandrearosa: this still doesn't feel right17:02
sdagueadding credential handling to nova-manage seems like a massive change in scope17:02
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: I'm glad the car is fine, I will not ask how much it was :)17:02
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mdboothjohnthetubaguy: Can I uncontroversially remove pre-grizzly compatibility code in Mitaka?17:05
johnthetubaguyildikov: heh17:05
mdboothSpecifically without a spec17:05
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johnthetubaguymdbooth: with reno, I think we can just do that now17:05
mdboothThat's the second time today I've heard reno17:06
mdboothWhat's reno?17:06
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markus_zmdbooth: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/code-review.html#what-is-reno17:07
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markus_zmdbooth: pretty cool stuff17:07
markus_zmdbooth: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/078301.html17:08
openstackgerritShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/nova-specs: Attach/detach SR-IOV interface  https://review.openstack.org/13991017:08
mdboothmarkus_z: Shiny17:08
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markus_zindeed :)17:09
sfinucanndipanov: FYI I had to rebase your fixes for #1501358 to resolve a merge conflict in my (dependant) changes17:12
ndipanovsfinucan, no worries!17:13
ndipanovthanks17:13
sfinucanI also have fixes for the two issues sahid pointed out, if you're happy for me to push them? My changes are now dependant on yours, so I need to make sure yours get in :)17:13
ndipanovsfinucan, yes please do!17:13
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: are you working on the force_detach_volume in compute.api ?17:13
sfinucanndipanov: Will do. Cheers :)17:13
openstackgerritdane-fichter proposed openstack/nova: Functional test for ephemeral storage encryption  https://review.openstack.org/24007517:13
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shaohe_fengbaoli: update  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139910/17:17
openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: Remove version hardcoding for 'detail' method  https://review.openstack.org/23830917:17
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johnthetubaguysdague: not really, sorry my head is fuzzy, whats the context on that?17:24
sdaguehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/184537/17:24
sdagueI'm really not loving the multiple scope grows in that patch17:24
openstackgerritMarkus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Add better help text for config options (rescue)  https://review.openstack.org/25198717:25
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baolishaohe_feng: I was not questioning why, but had a problem understanding the text. Basically you are saying "keep it the way it is"17:25
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sdagueif we add a force_detach_volume to the compute.api, and then figure out the right way to expose it to the rest api, that seems a lot better17:25
sdaguewhich I'm happy to sketch up if no one else is doing it17:26
openstackgerritRaildo Mascena de Sousa Filho proposed openstack/nova: Nested Quota Driver: Get Hierarchy info  https://review.openstack.org/24256817:27
openstackgerritPaul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Cancel ongoing live migrations  https://review.openstack.org/22882817:28
paul-carlton1alex_xu, see my comments on https://review.openstack.org/22882817:28
paul-carlton1not sure what the right way forward is here?17:29
paul-carlton1Feels to me like GET /servers/{id}/migrations should return all migrations for an instance?17:30
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paul-carlton1If I want just active ones I need GET /servers/{id}/migrations?status=running17:30
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mdboothpaul-carlton1: I'd love to fix that data model, btw. If that situation exists, what does it mean? Better to prevent it from existing imho.17:31
paul-carlton1The spec is implementing live-migration-abort but in doing so it is providing a GET and DELETE  and seems to me they should be consistent17:32
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sdaguepaul-carlton1: I think we are considering that from a REST model migrations only exist if they are active17:32
sdaguewhich I think is fine17:32
mdboothAnd there can be only 117:32
sdaguepaul-carlton1: is there an issue with GET /servers/{id}/migrations only returning active migrations?17:33
paul-carlton1sdague, ok, as mdbooth eludes to there can be more than one under some circumstances but that is a bug!17:33
paul-carlton1sorry maybe johnthetubaguy said that17:33
sdagueis that just a vmware driver issue?17:33
paul-carlton1not sure17:33
mdboothsdague: No.17:34
paul-carlton1I see code that places live-migration on an instance already migrating as queued but not sure if that actually occurs17:34
mdboothsdague: I'm not even 100% sure how you'd make it occur, but the data model allows it so I'm pretty sure you'd manage it if you tried really, really hard :)17:34
sdaguemdbooth: maybe, but lets ignore it a little bit for now17:35
mdboothsdague: Sure17:35
sdagueand assume that novaclient is going to cancel them all17:35
paul-carlton1In my mind only one active migration of any type is allowed per instance, anything to the contrary is a bug17:35
sdaguepaul-carlton1: sure, I'm with you on that17:35
paul-carlton1We can call delete on them all, won't do any harm17:36
paul-carlton1if they are active they will end,if not the delete will fail17:36
sdaguepaul-carlton1: ok, so where do you feel stuck atm?17:36
sdagueon your comment about not being sure what the right way forward was above17:36
paul-carlton1I'm ok now I think, I'm going to say GET only returns migrations in a running state17:37
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sdagueyeh, I think that's a fine assumption17:37
paul-carlton1I'll update the spec now17:37
sdagueif you want history, that's what instance actions are for17:37
sdaguethis isn't a log interface17:37
sdagueit's just what's happening right now17:38
mdboothpaul-carlton1: A single migration in a running state? Then the api user doesn't need to worry about nova bugs?17:38
openstackgerritPaul Murray proposed openstack/nova-specs: Allow volume operations when shelved  https://review.openstack.org/24309617:38
* mdbooth had an idea for a generic fault interface the other day. Certain actions could create a Fault, which could be exposed to the cloud operator for action.17:38
mdboothe.g. delete it17:38
paul-carlton1it could, in some erroneous cases return more than one but we'd call delete on them all17:39
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cfriesendoes anyone know why we convert from COW to a non-COW image when doing a cold migration with qcow2 backend?  This is unintuitive, since if the backing store file is already present on the destination we should be able to copy only the delta file.  When doing a live-migration we keep it as COW and copy the backing file separately.  (This is with kilo, haven't checked more recent code.)17:40
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PaulMurrayndipanov, are you still around - I only jut got free again17:45
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ndipanovPaulMurray, 'sup17:45
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova: Ironic: Workaround to mitigate bug #1341420  https://review.openstack.org/22623517:45
openstackbug 1341420 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "gap between scheduler selection and claim causes spurious failures when the instance is the last one to fit" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1341420 - Assigned to Lucas Alvares Gomes (lucasagomes)17:45
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PaulMurrayI wanted to get back to that point about synchronizing boot volume detach and unshelve17:46
PaulMurrayI think I was saying that at the moment any detach can collide with an instance state change - it will lead to an error17:47
PaulMurrayso https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216578/ was started as an attempt to help that17:47
PaulMurrayI don't think this will be any different17:47
PaulMurrayThe alternative would be to do some sync around the instance task state17:48
openstackgerritPaul Carlton proposed openstack/nova-specs: Cancel ongoing live migrations  https://review.openstack.org/22882817:49
PaulMurraymake an detaching/attaching state specifically for boot volumes in shelved_offloaded17:49
johnthetubaguysdague: dansmith: FWIW, I think I shared your concerns on that nova-manage volume detach stuff, I don't think I was imagining us passing in the cinder credentials, but I guess we don't have any if you don't pass them in here :(17:49
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: my concern is not passing them in, it's talking to the cinder api at all from nova-hack-the-database17:50
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: or rpc17:50
johnthetubaguydansmith: true, its a big change17:50
tjonescan someone remind me how to trigger recheck on gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full.  Im getting an error unrelated to my change - Failure prepping block device.17:50
sdagueyeh, the only place we touch rpc today is some cells stuff17:50
mriedemtjones: just comment with "recheck"17:50
sdagueand that's just because you kind of have to to hack it's db17:51
tjonesthanks - thought there was a secret word to just do that one :-)17:51
sdagueanyway, I think we should figure out what safety checks are getting in the way of DELETE17:51
sdaguebecause it seems like DELETE should work in the half setup case17:52
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johnthetubaguysdague: dansmith: it does feel like in an idea world, you just call detach again, and we do our best to finish off the job properly17:52
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: you mean after you hack the db, do the detach from the api again to clean it up?17:52
PaulMurrayndipanov, see sync comments ^^17:52
PaulMurrayfurther up17:52
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ndipanovPaulMurray, ok well17:53
ndipanovat least mention that in the spec17:53
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sdaguedansmith: there is no db hack in this code17:53
sdagueunless I missed it17:53
johnthetubaguydansmith: not sure we need a db hack, but I could be missing a bit17:53
dansmithI thought the point here was to delete from our database and then call cinder's detach?17:54
dansmithif so, then wtf are we doing here?17:54
johnthetubaguyI mean we have reset-state for VMs, it doesn't feel far off that17:54
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PaulMurrayndipanov, ok - I'll add discussion about it17:54
ndipanovPaulMurray, I mean17:54
ndipanovI can remove a -117:54
ndipanovbut we should all feel bad about that17:54
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PaulMurrayi do agree - the instance will go bad if it unshelves at the same time17:55
johnthetubaguydansmith: I am not sure now either, I seemed to get a different answer from everyone I ask about this17:55
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: sdague: so this is just to skip a bunch of checks in the api and otherwise just call the rpc detach directly?17:55
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: sdague: lol?17:55
PaulMurrayso the bug needs to be addressed.17:55
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sdaguedansmith: as far as I can tell17:56
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: sdague: what I thought we were doing, which I missed being distracted by the comments, was doing the force detach in cinder and then telling compute to do the detach, notice that it's gone and just update our DB17:57
johnthetubaguydansmith: yeah, it seems that way, I was certainly thinking it was a quick DB hack so you could recall the API when I was thinking nova-manage was a good idea, but it seems to have morphed somwhere17:57
sdaguedansmith: yeh, no17:57
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: sdague: but yeah, it's just bypassing the api checks, which seems like a terrible thing, IMHO17:57
sdaguethe api calls are just identity calls17:57
dansmithyeah17:57
PaulMurraydansmith, when your free can I ask you about the same thing I was talking to ndipanov about just now17:57
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dansmithPaulMurray: I think that spec is probably needed, yeah.. is that what you're asking?17:58
dansmithPaulMurray: I fixed one of those bugs in the unshelve periodic a couple weeks ago17:59
PaulMurraydansmith, the attach/detach sync one ?17:59
dansmithPaulMurray: the spec is about using expected_task_state to prevent multiple parallel operations, which I think is probably needed17:59
dansmithPaulMurray: my patch was using that to avoid unshelve-offloading if something else just started for an instance18:00
ndipanovdansmith, did you have a spec?18:00
dansmithndipanov: just a bug18:00
ndipanovlol18:00
PaulMurraydansmith, is it a pattern I can use here?18:00
dansmithndipanov: it was one line of change and clearly a bug, what's lol?18:00
ndipanovnothing nothing...18:01
dansmithPaulMurray: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243724/3/nova/compute/manager.py,cm18:01
dansmithPaulMurray: is that what you're looking for?18:01
ndipanovah but this is inperiodic task18:01
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mriedemsdague: johnthetubaguy: so they want to hit the cinder API just to validate that the volume uuid is legit?18:02
mriedemwe have that in the BDM teable18:02
mriedem*table18:02
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dansmithndipanov: we do the same thing for api calls, of course, which is why it works18:02
johnthetubaguymriedem: I think they just need a good context for the compute manager method that calls cinder18:02
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: why does nova-manage need to call the compute manager?18:02
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: he's saying we don't need to call to cinder18:03
PaulMurraydansmith, the volume operations don't set a task state18:03
mriedemthis is just about deleting problematic BDMs from the nova db right?18:03
dansmithPaulMurray: right, but they need to, and that's what the spec is for18:03
dansmithmriedem: no18:03
johnthetubaguymriedem: so its not doing that right now, its calling the compute manager to do the tidy up of the volume attachement18:03
PaulMurraydansmith, right - and that solve the problem, agreed18:03
dansmithPaulMurray: aye18:03
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johnthetubaguymriedem: I think I had assumed it was just dropping BDMs, but its doing something different now :S18:04
PaulMurraydansmith, so my problem is should I make my spec dependant on that one, cause that ones not getting agreement yet18:04
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: right, that was my original expectation18:04
mriedemme too18:05
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dansmithPaulMurray: well, the spec addresses a problem that already exists, so it's probably a parallel thing18:05
mriedemscottda: can you explain why this nova-manage force volume detach command needs to hit the cinder API?18:05
mriedemscottda: or go through the compute manager's volume detach method, bypassing the compute API?18:05
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dansmithmriedem: they're just helping by checking with cinder to make sure you didn't fat-finger a volume id18:05
ndipanovPaulMurray, adding task states to volume ops and checking them this way would work18:05
ndipanovdansmith, where's the spec for that?18:06
dansmithmriedem: that is only a small part of the overall problem18:06
dansmithndipanov: this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216578/18:06
dansmithndipanov: PaulMurray linked that above18:06
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PaulMurrayndipanov, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216578/18:06
scottdamriedem: One original goal was to allow the admin to clean up state for volume attach/detach that is out of sync, regardless of if there were issues with only Nova or Nova+Cinder18:06
mriedemscottda: but is that just state in the nova db?18:07
ndipanovand while we're at it remove all of the check_instance_state ones18:07
PaulMurrayndipanov, dansmith it should refer to this bug really: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/127514418:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1275144 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Volume operations should set task state" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Paul Murray (pmurray)18:07
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ndipanovPaulMurray, yes18:08
dansmithPaulMurray: well, the spec seems legit because it's about a bunch of ops that don't set task states, and because adding new task_states is something that we shouldn't do lightly18:08
mriedemscottda: you don't need this anymore right? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187305/18:08
PaulMurraydansmith, so I would like to see that get done, and willing to help do it, but the spec is in RuiChen's hands at the moment18:09
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scottdamriedem: yes, the cinderclient patch is not needed.18:09
PaulMurraydansmith, ndipanov but for now I would like to put my spec through on the grounds that "the sync problem is getting done seperately"18:10
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PaulMurraybut want to sound out if that's a reasonable thing to do18:10
ndipanovI don't see why volume attach and detach would need a spec18:10
dansmithndipanov: the reason I think it's worth it is because of the state sync periodic in compute manager18:11
scottdamriedem: But the state of the volume is not just in the Nova DB, it is also in the cinder DB and there may be an actual connection that needs to be terminated. That's why the call to volume detach is needed.18:11
ndipanovand why we need to fix everything under a spec that is approved for a release and adds a microversion to the API18:11
dansmithndipanov: go look at that, and tell if if the two new task states for attach and detach affect that at all18:11
dansmithndipanov: I think it's non-trivial18:11
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ndipanovdansmith, does it need a spec though? what part of that can't be figured out in code18:11
dansmithPaulMurray: I think mentioning the other spec as a sibling of yours (related but not dependent) is fine18:11
ndipanovPaulMurray, ^ I agree with that18:12
markus_zmelwitt: It could be that your patch to the following bug solved it from the reporters perspective. Would you double-check it please? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/149707618:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1497076 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Unable to delete an instance due to foreign key violation" [Undecided,New]18:12
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dansmithndipanov: because that code can be untouched in the process without anyone noticing18:12
PaulMurraydansmith, ndipanov I'll do that then18:12
markus_ztjones: Can I pester you with vmware related bugs?18:12
dansmithndipanov: I want to see a table of how the new task states affect that logic so that it's thought out and hopefully addressed and not skipped18:12
tjonesmarkus_z: sure thing.  which one(s)?18:13
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dansmithndipanov: from the look of the spec, that hasn't even been acknowledged as a thing that needs changing18:13
mriedemscottda: so we're skipping this check in the compute API because the volume status in cinder is already 'available'? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/volume/cinder.py#L31918:14
mriedemscottda: but it's really actually in-use?18:14
scottdamriedem: and IIRC, we need to bypass the compute API for volume detach because we need to bypass the state checks. We need this to work for volumes stuck in 'detaching' or 'attaching'.18:14
dansmithndipanov: the spec is completely focused on the rest impact side18:14
ndipanovdansmith, it does contain a looot of text though18:14
markus_ztjones: There are 5 open which seem to be vmware related: http://bit.ly/1YkCU4s18:14
ndipanovalso I don't understand the microversions there18:15
dansmithndipanov: yep, I don't think we can really do this change with a microversion18:15
ndipanovwhen is anyone ever going to go and say - look my client code does not expect races there so could you please put those races back - thanks18:15
markus_ztjones: I lack the knowledge if they are valid or not. Would be great if you would take a look.18:15
tjonesyes looking.  the 1st one looks like it needs an update from the guy who opened it on if increaseing the pool solves his prob or not.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/149468818:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1494688 in oslo.vmware "[VMWARE] Connection pool is full, discarding connection" [Undecided,New]18:16
tjoneshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1495429 is valid and i'll get someone to take a look.18:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1495429 in oslo.vmware "Vmware: Failed to snapshot an instance with a big root disk." [Undecided,New]18:17
markus_zAh, I didn't conclude that from Radoslav's answer.18:17
tjonessame with https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/151373518:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1513735 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "VMware VCDriver: the _init_host and period power sync take too long time when there are thousands VMs" [Undecided,New]18:17
tjoneslet me update it to make it more clear :-)18:17
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markus_zI tend to use "@<reporter-name>" in a comment to make it explicitly clear from whom an answer is expected.18:19
tjoneshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1514379 is valid and we have hit this before.  it needs a timeout adjustment on the ESX host.  I'll assign it18:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1514379 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "VimException: Error occurred while writing data to" [Undecided,New]18:19
markus_zAnd setting it to "incomplete"18:19
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tjonesok thanks - i'll do that now18:20
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: scottda: does anyone remember what the push back on the force detach in the actual REST API was?18:20
mriedemi know jaypipes was against it18:20
markus_ztjones: awesome, thanks a lot!18:21
scottdajohnthetubaguy: Here's the original abandoned spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84048/4418:21
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jaypipesmriedem: yeah, it would be adding a total hack into the RESTful API, which I don't care to do.18:21
mriedemoh nvm jay was pro rest API change18:21
tjonessure thing!   good job on the bug management!!18:21
jaypipesmriedem: no...18:21
mriedemyou were +1 on the spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84048/18:21
jaypipesmriedem: I was for the nova-manage thing.18:21
mriedemoh i see the spec was changed to just nova-manage18:22
markus_ztjones: Thanks. I'm just poking people who know how to solve them ;)18:22
mriedemand we said you don't need a spec for that18:22
jaypipesright18:22
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johnthetubaguybauzas: I got the release page built for mitaka, I don't see any blueprints we have missed: http://5885fef486164bb8596d-41634d3e64ee11f37e8658ed1b4d12ec.r44.cf3.rackcdn.com/release_status.html18:25
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openstackgerritPaul Murray proposed openstack/nova-specs: Detach and attach boot volumes  https://review.openstack.org/22173218:37
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openstackgerritPaul Murray proposed openstack/nova-specs: Detach and attach boot volumes  https://review.openstack.org/22173218:40
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PaulMurrayndipanov, dansmith I have updated the detach boot volume spec ^^^ can I ask for a review of that and volume operations when shelved https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243096/418:42
PaulMurrayndipanov, dansmith I am going to be offline tomorrow, so I will check back tonight to see if there is anything to do and otherwise not until late tomorrow.18:43
PaulMurrayndipanov, dansmith thanks for your help up to now18:43
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PaulMurrayvery useful discussion18:44
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openstackgerritTracy Jones proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup of compute api reboot method  https://review.openstack.org/12742718:45
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mriedemcan someone besides me approve this in launchpad? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/os-instance-actions-read-deleted-instances the spec was approved18:47
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alaskimriedem: got it18:51
mriedemdanka18:51
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vilobhmm11alaski : hi18:51
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Avoid intermediate Token auth plugin  https://review.openstack.org/22936818:52
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alaskivilobhmm11: hey18:52
vilobhmm11I have started working on flavor classes spec18:52
vilobhmm11alaski : is that ok with you?18:52
vilobhmm11alaski : just wanted to check before proceeding further18:53
alaskivilobhmm11: that's great.  if there's something to review let me know and I'll take a look18:53
vilobhmm11alaski : sure thanks ! :)18:53
vilobhmm11good to see the spec got approved yesterday18:54
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alaskioh, I missed that.  I was out yesterday and am wading through specs today but haven't gotten around to checking on that one18:55
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notmorganso sdague as a circle up as requested, I'm going to say I can commit to the catalog change later this cycle for glance, but for now we can address the smaller issue. I just can't commit the time while I am chasing down other engineering things to dig deep into nova and rewrite all the things such as the Xen plugin for glance. if that means we can't fix this until later, that is fine, but I still see19:01
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notmorganthis as a much smaller fix than the catalog change-over. it might just be that i am far out of the loop on nova these days and need to spend a few days revisting things and chasing all the places host/port/version/etc is assumed.19:01
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mriedemdoffm: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/os-instance-actions-read-deleted-instances19:10
mriedemdoffm: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248288/19:10
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mriedemif you want to start that19:10
doffmmriedem: Ta.19:11
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jaypipespaul-carlton2: what is this "discussion on the API call" of which you speak on the pause vm migration spec?19:20
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allow sending the migrate data objects over the wire  https://review.openstack.org/25158819:31
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ducttape_I have a question for the nova usage api - When an instance is resized, it seems like the nova usage api provides the size from when that instance was created.  Even when using a new starting date for the usage call, I am seeing old flavor info.  Is that right / make sense ?19:38
ducttape_that is, instance was resized a long time ago, but "nova --debug usage --start 2015-12-01 --tenant XYZ" still has old size/flavor info19:39
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U_Diengood afternoon.19:44
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U_DienI wanted to ask if high availablity for intances  is on the roadmap for Nova.19:45
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mriedemdansmith: unless i'm missing something, it looks like obj_reset_changes in NovaObject is identical to obj_reset_changes in VersionedObject, and we could remove the NovaObject version. there was a note in there that they were different in nova, but i'm wondering if that was before it was synced up to o.vo19:52
mriedemmaybe with the recursion stuff19:52
dansmithmriedem: yep, the recursion stuff probably19:53
dansmithmriedem: some objects have their own reset handlers, so don't remove those, but otherwise you're probably fine19:53
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mriedemok, comparing when that comment was added to nova during the switch and the min version of o.vo at the time (0.3.0), the methods were the same, so i'm not sure what the thinking was at the time, but they are the same now, so i'll clean up the nova version19:57
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mriedemducttape_: sounds like a bug, which version are you on?19:59
mriedemliberty?19:59
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rlrossitdansmith: if you are in the "get rid of old o.vo stuff" mood, I got the change for you! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245344/ ;)19:59
ducttape_kilo right med_ ?20:00
med_yep20:00
med_kilo.0 at the moment20:00
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ducttape_mriedem  kilo :'(20:00
dansmithrlrossit: cool20:00
med_mriedem, it's bizarre though.20:00
mriedemif med_ is involved then it's a user error20:01
med_truestory20:01
* med_ expects ducttape_ is laughing his head off right now20:01
ducttape_yeah, he was off goofing around when we found this.  he gets partial credit20:01
ducttape_something about supporting production20:02
rlrossitdansmith: mriedem: <320:02
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mriedemthis is where it loads up the flavor info https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/simple_tenant_usage.py#L7820:03
mriedemducttape_: med_: has the instance(s) in question have their flavor info migrated?20:03
mriedemsorry about the grammar20:03
mriedemme fail english20:04
mriedemU_Dien: what does that mean?20:05
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: hardware: stop using instance cell topology in CPU pinning logic  https://review.openstack.org/22957420:06
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Fix CPU pinning for odd number of CPUs w hyperthreading  https://review.openstack.org/22957520:06
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'CPUThreadAllocationPolicy' enum field  https://review.openstack.org/20264720:06
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'cpu_policy' and 'cpu_thread_policy' fields  https://review.openstack.org/20264820:06
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Add 'hw:cpu_thread_policy=require' scheduling  https://review.openstack.org/20265120:06
med_"flavor info" migrated. Not sure how to parse that mriedem20:06
mriedemmed_: kilo is doing online flavor data migration when first accessed20:07
mriedemunless you're manually running the nova-manage command to migrate those in the db20:07
med_I don't think we did any flavor migration. Not evena  function I was aware of.20:07
med_ie, we did flavor changes...20:07
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ducttape_https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1521747   are the steps we took, I'm pretty sure20:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1521747 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova usage call is not accurate for resized images" [Undecided,New]20:08
med_ie, this wasnt' a db change (not part of an upgrade/downgrade)20:08
mriedemmed_: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Kilo#Upgrade_Notes_2 4th bullet20:08
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ducttape_nova-manage db migrate_flavor_data    => mind blown20:09
mriedemheh, i'd suggest reading the release notes when upgrading your public cloud to kilo :)20:10
med_that was so long ago....20:10
med_but yes, dope slap us20:10
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mriedemanyway, the bug says you can recreate with a new instance, not resizing an old one, like an instance created with juno?20:10
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mriedemi think i have a recentish enough devstack to try and recreate20:11
ducttape_we are seeing this with instance(s) created some time ago.  I'm not sure if it was/is juno / kilo or not20:11
U_Dienmriedem: hypervisor HA  ( if a node fails, restart VM to another node)20:11
ducttape_ok.   the bug could be something to close, could be we need that flavor migration thing too.  I figured filling it is better than not20:12
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mriedemU_Dien: there are things that do that outside of nova20:12
mriedemusing evacuate20:12
mriedemnova provides the APIs, external services do the monitoring and orchestration20:12
mriedemducttape_: ok...yeah i'm wondering if it's loading up old juno flavor info or something...20:13
U_Dienfair enough, mriedem. it seem like it's out of scope for nova project. thank you :)20:13
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mriedemU_Dien: i can't think of the project, but there was something in the ML related to this, i think it was the 'watcher' project20:14
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mriedemhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher20:14
mriedemit reads like a sales pitch, but there are some details in there20:14
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mriedemtpeoples: was watcher the thing that did auto-evac?20:15
mriedemtpeoples: from a failed compute node20:15
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tpeoplesmriedem:  no, that's not a use case for the first go-round of watcher.  simple use case of watcher is to optimize a set of compute nodes based on some metric (e.g., CPU utilization, allocation, etc.) so things are better utilized - not do automated failovers.  PRS has auto-evac functionality for that though20:18
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tpeopleswe may look into predictive failure with watcher in the future though, but it's not one of our immediate goals20:19
mriedemtpeoples: ok, there was some other project that was doing to monitor that then20:19
mriedemcame up in the ML maybe a year ago, ikd20:19
openstackgerritSumant Murke proposed openstack/nova: Nova.cells.messaging.instance_update_at_top assuming instance object resolved  https://review.openstack.org/25204520:19
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tpeoplesmriedem:  i think congress may be trying to do that (auto-evac)20:21
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U_Dienso, watcher is akin to VMware DRS :)20:24
openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova-specs: Split different live-migration types in nova  https://review.openstack.org/22591020:24
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tpeoplesU_Dien: very much so20:26
U_Dienvery interesting project, I'll be keeping my eyes out for it. is there plans to release that in M or N release?20:27
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U_Dien@tpeoples20:27
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mriedemducttape_: med_: i added some notes to the bug, i'm not able to recreate with a mitaka devstack and a new instance20:28
mriedemU_Dien: you could ask in the #openstack-watcher channel20:29
tpeoplesU_Dien:  shooting for M20:29
tpeoples+1 to mriedem, this is nova :)20:29
_gryfU_Dien, if you are interested in automate the process of evacuation, there was an initiative from openstack-ha, which investigating the best possible approach20:30
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_gryfU_Dien, there is an etherpad which us an attempt to bring every solution in one place: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/automatic-evacuation20:31
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ducttape_mriedem  - thanks for checking that20:32
med_mriedem, coolio. thanks20:33
mriedemducttape_: med_: you might want to check the instance_extra table for the problem instance20:33
mriedemsee what old_flavor and new_flavor look like20:33
ducttape_ok, thanks20:34
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med_nod20:45
med_mriedem, you've earned one or more beverages of your choice in mid-cycle or Austin.20:45
med_or any time you come to North Colorado.20:46
mriedemfigure it out?20:47
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Pre-load meta/sys_meta/sec_groups when constructing InstanceMetadata  https://review.openstack.org/25205920:52
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Add better help text to scheduler options  https://review.openstack.org/24718120:54
openstackgerritEd Leafe proposed openstack/nova: Config options: centralize section "scheduler"  https://review.openstack.org/24589120:54
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openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: Add helper function and unit tests for client session  https://review.openstack.org/24717521:01
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mriedemjogo: remember when you were teasing out quota race issues? weren't you restarting nova-compute as part of that recreate?21:02
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mriedemah https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1284424/comments/1521:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1284424 in tripleo "nova quota statistics can be incorrect" [High,Triaged]21:04
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mriedemmelwitt: jhesketh: ^21:04
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melwittmriedem: cool, thanks! it was on my todo list to look through launchpad quota bugs for jogo's comments on shaking out quota bugs21:08
mriedemi found those here http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-05-08-21.01.html21:08
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melwittawesome21:09
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mriedemrlrossit: did you read this? https://docs.python.org/3/library/unittest.mock.html#mocking-magic-methods21:12
mriedem"Calls to magic methods do not appear in method_calls, but they are recorded in mock_calls."21:12
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup usage of fake_InstanceMetadata  https://review.openstack.org/25206821:15
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jogomriedem melwitt: I don't remember what I did, so I am glad to see I documented it (and that the ubuntu pastebin is still around)21:20
mriedemjogo: do you want to be on the nova quotas subteam?21:21
mriedemi think you do21:21
jogomriedem: nice try21:21
jogo:)21:21
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smurke<smurke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1514550 I am working on this bug and have difficulty in converting dict to instance obj in messaging.py21:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1514550 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova.cells.messaging.instance_update_at_top is assuming it gets an Instance object" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Sumant Murke (sumant-murke)21:22
jogobut glad to see there is movement on this finally21:23
smurkedo i have to write a new method that converts dict to obj ? dosent the versioned object take care of the conversion ?21:23
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melwittjogo: yeah, thanks for leaving those notes21:24
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: use NoDBTestCase for KeypairPolicyTest  https://review.openstack.org/23272121:35
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mriedemtimello: you might want to check this out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235983/21:36
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Do not expose exceptions from requests library  https://review.openstack.org/24002321:50
openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/nova: Remove version hardcoding for 'detail' method  https://review.openstack.org/23830921:50
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mriedemhow much do we care about 3rd party CI for booting from uefi? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235983/21:51
mriedemb/c we dont have libvirt new enough in the gate to test ^21:51
mriedemand the new enough libvirt is on the fedora jobs, where ovmf isn't in the fedora repos21:51
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openstackgerritLuis Pabón proposed openstack/nova-specs: Attach/detach instance access from Manila shares  https://review.openstack.org/24958221:57
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mriedemtjones: do you know what the nsx CI is using today for backing volume storage?22:03
mriedemtjones: looks like VMwareVcVmdkDriver22:04
tjonesmriedem: just a sec in a meeting22:04
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mriedemtjones: nvm, found it, it's using vmfs http://208.91.1.172/logs/186716/9/1448474588/c-vol.log.gz#_2015-11-25_09_42_37_22222:06
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs: VMware: add support for Virtual Volumes  https://review.openstack.org/24363322:08
mriedemalaski: ^ i just pulled that out of the gate22:08
mriedemit needs some updates22:08
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova-specs: VMware: add support for Virtual Volumes  https://review.openstack.org/24363322:08
alaskiokay22:08
openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack/nova-specs: Adds pci-generate-stats spec  https://review.openstack.org/24085222:09
jaypipesdansmith, alaski, mriedem: your review on ^^ appreciated.22:09
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: use NoDBTestCase for KeypairPolicyTest  https://review.openstack.org/23272122:12
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mriedemis intel pci ci dead?22:22
mriedemn0ano: ^?22:22
n0anomriedem, ack22:22
n0anomriedem, I haven't heard anything but China is coming on line soon, I'll poke them.22:23
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mriedemok, but jaypipes' spec is going to depend on that for regression testing i'd think22:23
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n0anoshould be able to fix in within a couple of hours at most22:24
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jaypipesmriedem: you're assuming everything is working correctly now ;)22:24
alaskimriedem: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2015-12-01.log.html#t2015-12-01T14:30:4422:24
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mriedemjaypipes: i know it's not working now22:26
mriedemok22:26
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mriedemjaypipes: ok, i was asking about liberty compat in the spec but i think dansmith already covered those questions in ps222:28
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mriedemi'm not familiar with how this works in the scheduler and RT today22:28
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mriedemdo we have a neutron liaison?22:36
mriedemshart it's me22:36
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melwittlol22:40
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mriedemactually sc68cal, i found a different wiki22:44
mriedemi'll just say it's sean22:44
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melwittmriedem: do you know anything about the volume attachments api? is attachment_id the same thing as volume id or no?22:55
dansmithmelwitt: pretty sure it is22:56
mriedemmelwitt: it us22:56
mriedem*is22:56
mriedemthere was a spec to change that22:56
mriedemit was nacked22:56
melwittdansmith, mriedem: thanks!22:56
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mriedemlow-hanging-fruit for the people that jump on those https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/152178822:57
openstackLaunchpad bug 1521788 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova.network.neutronv2.api.validate_networks could be smarter when listing ports" [Low,Triaged]22:57
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Actually pass the migration data object down to the virt drivers  https://review.openstack.org/24821123:12
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Allow sending the migrate data objects over the wire  https://review.openstack.org/25158823:12
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jlkCan somebody help me understand the semantics of "scheduler_available_filters" and "scheduler_default_filters", and what scheduler hints can be passed by users?23:43
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