Tuesday, 2016-01-05

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alaskijain: thanks00:12
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jainalaski: np :)00:13
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add resource_classes table to api database  https://review.openstack.org/26349600:35
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Versioned objects support for ResourceClass  https://review.openstack.org/26349700:35
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add ResourceClassList versioned object  https://review.openstack.org/26349800:35
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openstackgerritDiana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Remove non-unicode bind param warnings  https://review.openstack.org/24066700:43
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openstackgerritVilobh Meshram proposed openstack/nova: Servicegroup Foundational Refactoring  https://review.openstack.org/23563700:59
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openstackgerritAugustina Ragwitz proposed openstack/nova: WIP: add test coverage to _compare_result  https://review.openstack.org/26344001:00
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openstackgerritTracy Jones proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section "wsgi"  https://review.openstack.org/25268701:35
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openstackgerritDiana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Remove boto deprecation warnings in the unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/26352402:04
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Cleanup EC2 related code  https://review.openstack.org/26336802:49
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Jeffrey4llifeless, could me move the PS on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253290/ It has been there for a long time.05:20
Jeffrey4lthanks a lot.05:20
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lifelessJeffrey4l: tabs open, I shall look tomorrow05:22
lifeless(past EOD right now)05:22
Jeffrey4llifeless, OK. thanks05:22
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openstackgerrityapeng Yang proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Use assertTrue/False instead of assertEqual(T/F)  https://review.openstack.org/26356105:34
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: doc: completes microversion use-cases in api concept doc  https://review.openstack.org/26322005:52
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openstackgerritTang Chen proposed openstack/nova: Add a REST API to trigger crash dump in an instance.  https://review.openstack.org/20261705:56
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openstackgerritAlex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Merge os-user-data extension into servers  https://review.openstack.org/25823506:02
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/25219706:32
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openstackgerritMark McLoughlin proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: deprecate live/block_migration_flag opts  https://review.openstack.org/26343606:37
openstackgerritMark McLoughlin proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: remove the live/block_migration_flag opts  https://review.openstack.org/26343706:37
openstackgerritMark McLoughlin proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add a new live_migration_tunneled config  https://review.openstack.org/26343406:37
openstackgerritMark McLoughlin proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add live_migration_extra_flags config option  https://review.openstack.org/26343506:37
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openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: Enhance PCI passthrough whitelist to support regex  https://review.openstack.org/19948806:44
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Expose quiesce/unquiesce API  https://review.openstack.org/24898907:13
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise floating ip options  https://review.openstack.org/25708707:17
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gmannalex_xu: Happy new year.07:59
gmannalex_xu: iw ould not be able to join today meeting. have some personal work08:00
alex_xugmann: happy new year too :)08:00
alex_xugmann: ok, no problem08:00
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gmannalex_xu: hope you had nice vacations :)08:00
alex_xugmann: thanks, you too :)08:00
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openstackgerritAdelina Tuvenie proposed openstack/nova: Added support for new block device format in Hyper-V  https://review.openstack.org/24629808:09
openstackgerritAdelina Tuvenie proposed openstack/nova: Added support for new block device format in vmops  https://review.openstack.org/24629908:09
openstackgerritAdelina Tuvenie proposed openstack/nova: Add support for setting boot order in Hyper-V  https://review.openstack.org/24802908:09
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup NovaObjectDictCompat from NumaTopology  https://review.openstack.org/26001608:56
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup NovaObjectDictCompat from BandwidthUsage  https://review.openstack.org/26363808:56
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Expose quiesce/unquiesce API  https://review.openstack.org/24898908:57
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.hardware' options  https://review.openstack.org/25634409:08
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.firewall' options  https://review.openstack.org/25799509:08
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.netutils' options  https://review.openstack.org/25800909:08
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Flesh out nova.conf.virt documentation  https://review.openstack.org/25955309:08
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Improve 'virt' conf options documentation  https://review.openstack.org/25636809:08
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.imagecache' options  https://review.openstack.org/25898409:08
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.images' options  https://review.openstack.org/25800409:08
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.driver' options  https://review.openstack.org/25795609:08
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.hardware' options  https://review.openstack.org/25634409:09
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.firewall' options  https://review.openstack.org/25799509:09
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.netutils' options  https://review.openstack.org/25800909:09
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Flesh out nova.conf.virt documentation  https://review.openstack.org/25955309:09
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Improve 'virt' conf options documentation  https://review.openstack.org/25636809:09
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.imagecache' options  https://review.openstack.org/25898409:10
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.images' options  https://review.openstack.org/25800409:10
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.disk' options  https://review.openstack.org/25891209:10
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.driver' options  https://review.openstack.org/25795609:10
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openstackgerritShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/nova: write live migration progress detail to DB in migration monitor  https://review.openstack.org/25881309:12
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise PCI options  https://review.openstack.org/25373209:17
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Improve 'pci' conf options documentation  https://review.openstack.org/24333509:17
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BobBallmriedem_away: Network failure attempting to upload logs - seems to have only affected that one job09:26
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BobBallsdague: Regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262661/1/nova/virt/xenapi/vm_utils.py; do you mean you want additional parsing of cache_images so we can set it to equal None if the string option provided was "none"?09:37
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.hardware' options  https://review.openstack.org/25634409:40
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.firewall' options  https://review.openstack.org/25799509:40
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.netutils' options  https://review.openstack.org/25800909:40
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Flesh out nova.conf.virt documentation  https://review.openstack.org/25955309:40
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Improve 'virt' conf options documentation  https://review.openstack.org/25636809:40
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.imagecache' options  https://review.openstack.org/25898409:40
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.images' options  https://review.openstack.org/25800409:40
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.disk' options  https://review.openstack.org/25891209:40
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'virt.driver' options  https://review.openstack.org/25795609:40
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migiI have question about recheck of particular test set. I did a "recheck py34" but it only rechecked the jenkins check not the jenkins gate. How to recheck the jenkins gate test?10:01
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migire: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258878/10:01
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openstackgerritSayali Lunkad proposed openstack/nova: Allows to set display_name as instance_name  https://review.openstack.org/26335310:16
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bauzasmigi: heya10:34
bauzasmigi: there is no way to ask for a specific jenkins check10:35
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bauzasmigi: since zuul is managing that, the events are only for triggering a new placement in queue10:35
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johnthetubaguybauzas: welcome back, hope you had a good break!10:36
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: yeah, a very decent one in the french riviera :)10:36
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I saw for you, congrats !10:36
johnthetubaguybauzas: thanks :)10:36
bauzasmigi: oooh I see your question actually, you want to gate again your change, not thru the check pipeline ?10:38
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bauzasmigi: the "recheck py34" confused me :)10:38
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migibauzas: yes10:41
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add policy check to avoid using qga in realtime context  https://review.openstack.org/24758510:41
migithe recheck py did a recheck only for one gate-nova-python34-constraints10:41
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: conductor: initialize request_spec to handle expected exception  https://review.openstack.org/25801110:41
bauzasmigi: so anytime you wonder the question, look thru https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml10:41
migiok thanks10:42
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: add realtime support  https://review.openstack.org/19756910:42
bauzasthat's the pointer I usually use to know what's possible with zuul10:42
bauzasmigi: tl;dr you can use reverify, but that's only a syntaxic sugar for entering the check pipeline again10:42
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bauzasunder certain circumstances, one could +W again your change in order to spin directly in the gate queue, but I'm pretty almost sure it will still trigger a check10:43
openstackgerritAndrea Rosa proposed openstack/nova: WIP Enable volume operations for shelved instances  https://review.openstack.org/25952810:44
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migibauzas: got the idea now, many thanks !10:45
bauzasmigi: anyway, don't touch anything http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ shows me that 258878 is in the gate queue10:46
migiright10:46
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migibauzas: thanks again for pointers - helped a lot10:47
bauzasnp10:47
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sdagueBobBall: isn't there some path through oslo.config that will give you that automatically?11:17
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BobBallsdague: Sorry - rebooted the wrong system :)11:24
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BobBallsdague: I wasn't able to find one quickly - and several other places in nova check against the 'none' string (some check for None and "none") so assumed that one didn't exist11:24
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sdagueok, give me a minute11:25
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Cleanup EC2 related code  https://review.openstack.org/26336811:27
sdagueok, none is fine11:27
sdagueI don't understand the lower() bit though11:29
sdaguewe've already defined choices11:29
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sdaguewhy is that needed?11:29
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BobBallIt's not.  We'll remove that.11:29
sdagueok11:30
sdagueI'm fine once that cleans up11:30
BobBallOK - thanks!11:30
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: remove use of _get_regexes in samples tests  https://review.openstack.org/25743911:33
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AJaegernova cores, could you import translations again, please? We're at iteration 35 of this change now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252197/11:58
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openstackgerritMichal Dubiel proposed openstack/nova: libvirt, vhostuser: Add support for OpenContrail vRouter  https://review.openstack.org/24165212:04
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kashyapbauzas: Hey, just stumbled across it -- thanks for your tip on the -devel list about adding Compute dashboard (& thanks to sdague for creating it) to Gerrit.  I don't use the UI regularly, but this is useful.12:09
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markus_zedleafe: Hey Ed, happy new year. I've seen you have left a comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260015/1 but is there a link missing?12:49
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openstackgerritGábor Antal proposed openstack/nova: Assignment (from method with no return) removed  https://review.openstack.org/26334312:53
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openstackgerritMarian Horban proposed openstack/nova: Stop Libvirt event threads  https://review.openstack.org/25906612:55
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openstackgerritMarian Horban proposed openstack/nova: Restart of nova-compute service fixed  https://review.openstack.org/25844113:14
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sdaguecdent: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254828/6/nova/image/glance.py - just responded13:19
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cdentsdague: I'm not sure we're connecting on that comment. What I meant was what if the URL is: http://foo:9000/v1/images//888813:22
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sdagueah, yeh, well that's kind of a garbage url anyway13:23
sdagueour routers won't work with that I don't think13:23
cdentcool, I figured it was best to raise the minor flag when I saw it. If the routers are going to fail anyway, or that type of URL will never enter into the picture then fine13:25
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sdagueyeh, honestly, this hits the whole issue that we don't have structured service urls, we have lots of guessing and heuristics13:26
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* cdent nods13:26
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: api-guide: add a doc on users  https://review.openstack.org/24981213:47
openstackgerritSayali Lunkad proposed openstack/nova: Allows to set display_name as instance_name  https://review.openstack.org/26335313:51
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PaulMurrayLive migration meeting in a few minutes on #openstack-meeting-3 paul-carlton2 eliqiao shaohe_feng pkoniszewski jlanoux yuntongjin mdbooth kashyap kmartin claudiub13:59
cdentbauzas, n0ano: I went ahead and did the code for one of the (not yet approved) specs related to resource-providers: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/resource-classes13:59
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section "wsgi"  https://review.openstack.org/25268713:59
edleafemarkus_z: sorry, I was rushing to get out, and forgot the link: https://review.openstack.org/26346013:59
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markus_zedleafe: got it. doesn't break existing reviews and is open for the dict in new reviews. looks good.14:03
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edleafemarkus_z: I was going to just update your PS, but thought that might be a little heavy-handed14:04
markus_zedleafe: I would abandon my patch for that and we go with yours, is that ok?14:05
edleafemarkus_z: or you could just update yours - either way is fine14:05
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markus_zedleafe: ok, then I use that to update mine. I should get that done in the next hours. thanks again for your help!14:06
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edleafemarkus_z: of course, now all the other conf scripts will need to be updated to return dicts, but that can be done afterwards14:07
markus_zedleafe: yepp, true14:07
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bauzascdent: ack, I'm just reviewing a lot of patches, but I'll CC them14:08
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Cleanup EC2 related code  https://review.openstack.org/26336814:08
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openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Add FK bw_usage_cache.uuid -> instances.uuid  https://review.openstack.org/24878014:24
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openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Move Process and Mentoring pages to devref  https://review.openstack.org/20607014:27
lxslijohnthetubaguy: happy new year, any chance of merging https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206070/?14:28
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johnthetubaguylxsli: I was looking for that, will take a peak now14:31
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Allow multiple volume attachments  https://review.openstack.org/19313514:31
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: comp: Allow multiple volume attachments  https://review.openstack.org/19313414:31
johnthetubaguylxsli: happy new year too14:31
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: db and obj: Allow multiple volume attachments  https://review.openstack.org/19313314:31
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: WIP: REST API changes to support multi-attach  https://review.openstack.org/15303814:32
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: WIP: virt: Pass host when call attach to Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/25627314:32
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: hi14:32
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: I fixed the db patch ^^14:32
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: I don't think I can do more as part of this change here, but let me know I'm missing something14:33
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johnthetubaguyildikov: I think you are correct, we don't want the scope to increase too much, I don't think it makes it any worse, actually, I think it leaves us in a better position.14:34
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johnthetubaguylxsli: sorry, I think we should try include the svg directly, I think that works, and delete the png file14:37
johnthetubaguylxsli: keeping the graphml I think is a good idea14:38
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lxslijohnthetubaguy: OK, I'll try it14:40
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johnthetubaguylxsli: otherwise, i think we should just get that in there, and start evolving it in there14:43
claudiubjohnthetubaguy: hello. happy new year! live-resize spec still not approved. :D14:44
johnthetubaguylxsli: keep pinging me about it, if I don't jump on it, lets try get that sorted14:44
lxslijohnthetubaguy: ok will do :)14:44
johnthetubaguyclaudiub: yes, it didn't get the exception approved, basically. I am waiting till we open N before doing a mass comment on all the specs.14:45
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ildikovjohnthetubaguy: I think so too, I mean regarding the better position14:51
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: will there be a topic about this on the mid-cycle?14:51
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johnthetubaguyildikov: not sure, we could discuss it if needed14:54
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Document restrictions for working on cells v1  https://review.openstack.org/26342514:55
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mriedemildikov: is anyone from cinder going to be at the nova meetup?14:55
PaulMurrayndipanov, alaski are you around ?14:57
ndipanovyo14:57
PaulMurrayHi ndipanov - happy new year14:57
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ndipanovhny PaulMurray14:57
alaskihi14:57
ildikovmriedem: I talked to hemnafk about this and we were thinking about having a Google hangouts session or smth like14:58
PaulMurrayankit, raised this patch in the live migration meeting14:58
ankitHi ndipanov, alaski: We have addded few possible solutions to fix this issue on LP bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1470420/comments/614:58
openstackLaunchpad bug 1470420 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Set migration status to 'error' instead of 'failed' during live-migration" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Rajesh Tailor (rajesh-tailor)14:58
ankitIt would be really helpful if we can get some consensus on finalizing the alternet approach to fix this issue.14:58
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ildikovmriedem: as the Cinder mid-cycle is at the exact same time, but they'll have theirs in the US14:58
ankitbefore actually implementing the alternate approach14:58
ildikovmriedem: and for me it's less likely that I can make it to either of them :(14:59
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PaulMurrayndipanov, alaski you two had the most specific comments on ankit's patch so we thought you might be able to suggest the best approach15:00
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ndipanovPaulMurray, which patch is that?15:01
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ndipanovthe migration statuses thing15:01
ndipanov?15:01
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ankitndipanov: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215483/15:01
PaulMurrayyep15:01
PaulMurray^^15:01
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ildikovmriedem: regarding the first patch of the multi attach chain, would we need to chat about it?15:01
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ildikovmriedem: I just ask as most people are around, so if with that patch or any other there's anything we could sort out here, I'm available now15:02
ndipanovso I really don't want to derail useful work15:02
mriedemildikov: i just replied to your reply in ps3015:02
ndipanovBUT15:02
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mriedemildikov: i'd like ndipanov to be on board with the series15:03
mriedemand speak of the devil :)15:03
ndipanovmy take on that is - the CVE fix is a hack15:03
ndipanovmriedem, on my list today15:03
ndipanovright after some pci cra^H^H^H stuff15:03
ndipanovso back to ankit and PaulMurray15:03
ndipanovthe CVE fix is a hack15:03
ndipanovwe should not change any more code to accomodate it15:03
ndipanovbut I could be wrong15:03
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PaulMurrayndipanov, well, I think ankit is looking for direction either way15:04
PaulMurrayalaski, do you have an opinion ?15:05
alaskindipanov: what's the CVE fix, the periodic?15:05
ndipanovyea15:05
ndipanovI mean15:05
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ndipanovfor a quick cve fix it's fine but we should really fix that at some point15:06
ndipanovit's almost as we need some kind of a locking system15:06
ndipanova manager15:06
ildikovmriedem: did I understand correctly from your comment that we're kind of worried about detach cases, which are close to the creation, like the Error case you mentioned?15:06
ndipanovbut it's distributed...15:06
ndipanovhmmm15:06
ndipanov:)15:06
alaskiI'm not sure we can get by without having it, but it should be a last resort and not the only option15:06
openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed openstack/nova: Move Process and Mentoring pages to devref  https://review.openstack.org/20607015:06
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alaskiwhat I'm not clear on right now is why can't delete just call both computes if a migration is in progress?15:06
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lxslijohnthetubaguy: there it is15:06
ndipanovalaski, I'15:07
ndipanovd have to reload some context15:07
ndipanovbut yes - I'd like to see more discussion and design in that direction15:07
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vponomaryovmriedem: hello, JFYI, statistics of error described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1530847 can be gathered on with Manila CI fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263664/ or CI runs after its merge15:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1530847 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "TypeError attaching volume to instance" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)15:08
alaskiankit: PaulMurray my take is that the current approach assumes we get into a bad state and tries to clean that up.  what I'm interested in is how do we avoid getting to that bad state15:08
mriedemildikov: my main concern with anything bdm related is the lack of a unique constraint in the data model15:08
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mriedemand races15:08
lxsliPaulMurray: if a stack trace includes nova/network/linux_net.py, does that mean it's using Nova networking? As opposed to Neutron15:09
lxslianswer when you're free15:09
alaskindipanov: I don't have the full context anymore either...15:09
vponomaryovs/on/only/15:09
alaskimriedem: huge +1 on a unique constraint for bdms15:09
mriedemalaski: well, that's where we talked about the uuid15:10
mriedemas a stop gap15:10
ankitalaski, thank you, I'll look into this15:10
mriedemsince volume_id might not be set at first, nor device name15:10
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lxslithanks John15:10
mriedemvponomaryov: so it sounds like it was just a manila ci issue and nova is ok, besides that one typeerror issue that i've already fixed15:10
ildikovmriedem: I assume that uuid patches are supposed to find a solution for that problem, I mean the uniqueness part15:10
mriedemildikov: right15:11
alaskimriedem: yeah, I still really want that uuid.  I know it just isn't a priority at this time15:11
vponomaryovmriedem: why it sound like Nova is ok? limit for 26 device names should have not reached15:11
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ankitndipanov, Is there any suggestions considering your concerns with the current approch or the alaski's review comments15:12
PaulMurrayalaski, ndipanov thanks - ankit do come back if you need more15:12
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mriedemalaski: we've been discussing the bdm.uuid thing in here now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193133/15:12
ankitPaulMurray: Thank you very much for your time and help in discussing this issue15:12
vponomaryovmriedem: there is just two CI issues for Manila, and Nova one is not reached right now15:13
ndipanovankit, well like I said - I'd have to sit down and look at it again15:13
ildikovmriedem: I don't see my patch would cause more problems on that front, not solving issues either besides that one related bug I added to the commit message, but let's see what ndipanov thinks about this :)15:13
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Put deprecated vnc items into its own group  https://review.openstack.org/23483615:13
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: make xvp proxy into vnc group  https://review.openstack.org/23539815:13
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'vnc' options  https://review.openstack.org/26376315:13
alaskimriedem: cool, I'll take a look15:13
ankitndipanov, sure thank you15:13
vponomaryovmriedem: so, no statistics for the moment just because tempest not running at all15:13
ndipanovankit, but the idea behind my objections is that we should cure the problem not the symptom15:13
mriedemvponomaryov: oh, ok15:14
dimssdague : mriedem : do we have to support old api-paste.ini with ec2 classes/config when someone upgrades to mitaka?15:14
ndipanovproblem is that there are races between deletes and resizes / migrations15:14
mriedemildikov: i pointed out a place in ps30 where a bdm is created in the compute manager where the volume_id could be hardcoded to 'reserved'15:14
ndipanovwe should try to solve that15:14
sdaguedims: yes15:14
dimssdague : ack.15:14
sdaguedims: well, we need a deprecation path15:15
sdagueso that before we remove something we have to warn people that we're going to remove this, and they will need to edit their paste before they upgrate15:15
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sdagueupgrade15:15
dimssdague : we already have deprecation warnings that ec2 stuff will go away for a while. but guessing that's not enough15:16
PaulMurraylxsli, not necessarily - can I see the stack trace (don't paste it in here)15:16
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sdaguedims: yeh, not enough15:17
mriedemildikov: anyway, i can't really say that your patch makes anything worse15:17
rlrossitHey cores. it would be really neat if we could get a few eyes on the versioned notification base patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247024/) before we have our subteam meeting today. It's been reviewed and approved by the subteam and is ready for your scrutiny :)15:17
ndipanovankit, my impulse would be to sit down and try to design a solution that does not require a massive amount of code, but still cuts down on the races15:17
dimssdague : understood, will figure out some shims15:17
ildikovmriedem: I wonder what the boundaries are for the multi attach spec that I try to put together here15:17
mriedemildikov: i need to go back and read that before digging into this series too15:17
ildikovmriedem: I mean I understand that there are many skeletons around tis part of the code and it would be nice to fix, but I don't want to go down to a rabbit hole if that's not necessary15:18
ildikovs/tis/this/15:18
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mriedemildikov: yeah i understand that15:18
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mriedemi also noted that i don't think we have any tempest tests that boot from volume or attach a volume w/o specifying a device name,15:19
mriedemi'd have to check15:19
mriedembut that is a wrinkle in testing15:19
mriedemand it's a wrinkle b/c of how device name is used in update_or_create as part of a unique check15:19
ildikovmriedem: yeah, I need to look at tempest too15:19
mriedemwhat is the test plan for this bp? create a volume, create 2 instances, and attach the same volume to the 2 instances at the same time?15:20
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ildikovas a base case I would say this is what I imagined, at least this is what I do manually15:21
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ildikovobviously it's only one happy case to check15:21
mriedemnote that the really racy cases are booting from volume with a snapshot or image15:21
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mriedemwhere nova orchestrates creating the volume15:21
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mriedemthe ebs test in test_volume_boot_pattern.py scenario covers that case pretty well though15:22
ildikovyou mean a frsh new volume, right?15:22
mriedemyeah15:22
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lxsliPaulMurray: you're not on HipChat so I sent you a privmsg15:23
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ildikovas much as I'm familiar with the multi attach code now in Nova (I'm at least the third person rying to push this code in...) this case is not covered yet15:23
mriedemhmm, that raises a question,15:24
ildikovas you need to create the volume to specify multiattach = True15:24
mriedemon the os-attach call you mean15:24
mriedemwell, when attaching the volume to the instance via the compute api15:24
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mriedemdo we handle the delete_on_termination flag?15:26
mriedemin the multiattach case?15:26
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mriedemmaybe i should just read the spec first :)15:27
mriedemboot from volume with multiattach scares me15:27
ildikovno, I haven't touched any path that touches that flag as far as I remember15:28
ildikovso multiattach is enabled, when the 'multiattach' flag in the volume data is set to 'true'15:29
mriedemildikov: so this is the scenario: create volume A, attach to instance 1, then boot instance 2 with volume A and delete_on_termination=True15:29
mriedemthen delete instance 215:29
ildikovwhich can be set at volume creation time15:29
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mriedemwill that delete volume A? i'm assuming it would fail b/c cinder will say vol A is attached to instance 115:29
mriedemand then we're stuck where we can't delete instance 215:30
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ildikovI would need to ask hemnafk abou tthe Cinder implementation, but it should theoretically fail15:31
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mriedemsure it will fail (i think), but what is the recovery action for the user? can they force detach vol A from instance 2? do they have to force delete somehow (andrearosa's bug?), other?15:32
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ildikovso I got the issue now, although it's again Cinder, which knows the latest information about a volume and attachments, so I'm not sure we could decide it on Nova side15:32
ildikovI wonder, whether it can be handled in a less radical way in the sense of that call deletes the volume if no one else is using it anymore15:33
ildikovI mean don't fail15:33
mriedemi was going to say you could fail the server create request if delete_on_termination=True and the volume specified is already attached to another instance,15:33
ildikovor don't allow to use these flags together15:33
ildikovyeah, that's another option15:33
mriedembut that doens't stop the case that you boot from volume when the volume isn't attached to anything, and then later attach it to another instance15:33
ildikovbut in that case Nova creates the volume right?15:34
mriedemunless you look up the BDMs by volume ID and see if any are (1) attached to another instance and (2) have delete_on_termination=True15:34
mriedemnova doesn't create a volume in BFV when the volume id is provided on the create request15:34
mriedemnova only creates the volume in BFV when source type is blank/image/snapshot15:35
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ildikovand currently I don't think it would set the multiattach flag to true on it15:35
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ildikovif the volume already exists than the flag can be checked15:35
mriedemthe thing that worries me is that the spec, http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/multi-attach-volume.html - has no details on boot from volume scenarios15:36
mriedemthe multiattach flag is stored in cinder?15:36
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Make xvp proxy into vnc group  https://review.openstack.org/23539815:36
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'vnc' options  https://review.openstack.org/26376315:36
johnthetubaguymriedem: yeah, that delete_on_terminate and boot from volume stuff isn't covered there15:36
johnthetubaguymriedem: yes15:36
ildikovstored along with the volume info15:36
johnthetubaguyits a property of the volume, in Cinder, as I understand it15:36
mriedemok, so i guess we could say no boot from volume if multiattach=True on the volume provided15:36
mriedemb/c it sucks to think about15:37
ildikovexactly15:37
johnthetubaguymriedem: yes, +1 to that15:37
mriedemand boot from volume where nova creates the volume, we set multiattach=False15:37
ankitndipanov: sure, thank you15:37
johnthetubaguymriedem: but you are correct, its not covered in the spec15:37
ildikovand it can be set to true at creation time only15:37
mriedemso no one else gets that volume15:37
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ildikovwe don't set it to true and it's false by default15:37
mriedemildikov: so you can't update the volume to set multiattach=True15:37
ildikovno15:37
mriedemsomeone will ask for that in the future15:37
ildikovit does not mean it will happen :)15:38
mriedem'oh i created the wrong thing and now i have a pet and can't remove it, so i need to update the volume info'15:38
ildikovI think multiattach is sensitive enough to not do it that way15:38
mriedemwell, it relies on cinder cores remembering the nova boot from volume case15:38
ildikovsorry, I strongly hope15:39
mriedemso....can we amend the spec to point out the boot from volume case(s)? http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/multi-attach-volume.html15:39
smatzekthere is also a bp out there to allow modification of delete_on_termination of volumes.15:39
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mriedemsmatzek: for nova?15:39
smatzekyes. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234269/15:40
ildikovmriedem: the two we discussed here or are there more?15:40
mriedemildikov: at least what we discussed here15:40
mriedemto recap:15:40
smatzekI have made a WIP patch that implements the update part of that bp.15:40
mriedem1. boot from volume with volume provided, if multiattach=True, fail15:40
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johnthetubaguysmatzek: we are closed for new blueprints for mitaka at this point, will have to be during N for that now, got a few weeks till feature freeze at this point15:41
mriedem2. boot from volume where nova creates the volume (source_type is blank/image/snapshot), nova passes multiattach=False (or doesn't provide since that's the default)15:41
smatzekmriedem: I do not agree with #1.  Or it should possibly be changed to "boot from volume with delete_on_termination = true and if multiattach=True, fail"15:41
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mriedemsmatzek: well, if we did that, and approved https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234269/, then you could change delete_on_termination=True after passing the BFV checks for multiattach and shoot yourself in the foot15:42
mriedemit's just more orchestration that nova should not be doing15:42
smatzeka very common multi-attach volume use case exists for boot from volume where #1 would break it.  The use case is:  A user has existing volumes that comprise a shared DB.  The user does a boot of a server, from volume or glance image, it doesn't matter, and provides the BDMs for the shared DB volumes on the create server API.15:43
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sdaguedims: has privsep been released yet?15:43
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johnthetubaguysmatzek: we are just talking about the boot from volume bit though, as I understand it? not additional volumes that are shared15:44
ildikovmriedem: ok, I will upload a patch to capture this15:44
mriedemsmatzek: in that case why can't you just create the server and then attach the volumes after?15:44
johnthetubaguynow I am confused15:44
mriedemsmatzek: basically, nova doesn't want to control the lifecycle of volumes anymore15:45
mriedemor at least make that any more complicated than it already is15:45
smatzekmriedem:  because the operating system auto-starts the DB service and the DB wants / needs the DB backing data there to come up correctly on boot.15:45
mriedemthis is a db service within the guest?15:45
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smatzekyes, e.g. Oracle, the Oracle software is in the image and the actual DB tables, etc are on the shared volumes.  This is a common use case for shared DBs that are TBs in size.15:46
smatzekmultiple VMs using the shared data in the attached volumes.15:46
johnthetubaguyso the DB would be on a shared volume right, that is just attached as an additioanl volume on two servers?15:46
johnthetubaguythose two could both be boot from volume instances, using different root volumes15:47
johnthetubaguyin that case #1 is fine15:47
smatzekyes.  If we wanted to prevent multi-attach = True on the cinder volume for nova root_bdms (true boot from vol where the root_bdm volume has the master boot record), that would be fine.15:47
ildikovwe can still handle this incrementally with more limitations as a starting point15:48
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ildikovon Cinder side the first version of this was introduced in Havana, so if we cannot boot from that volume, etc. as a first step that should be acceptable I think15:49
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johnthetubaguyboot from volume, where the volume using are booting from is multi-attach=true seems like a bad idea, but a boot from volume having addtional volumes attached that are multi-attach=true seems just fine right?15:49
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ildikovso start in a defensive way15:49
johnthetubaguyyeah, that check makes sense15:49
smatzekI think we have been running with multi-attach patches in Nova since Kilo.  I will look up how we've handled the delete_on_termination = true on shared volume / delete VM case.15:50
johnthetubaguyildikov: its related to my comment about ensuring virt drivers opt into support this, as well15:50
ildikovsmatzek: if you're talking about those patches of which I'm the stepmother right now you will not find anything there for those cases15:50
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smatzekildikov: yes those patches were our starting point with some possible bug fixes on top.15:51
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johnthetubaguysmatzek: you could have the last person to detach does the delete, but its very racey, and best avoided if we can15:51
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: you mean hypervisors?15:51
johnthetubaguyildikov: yes, the virt drivers15:52
smatzekoff the top of my head, Cinder would fail to delete the volume, which would trigger an error in Nova, but Nova has historically been able to remove instances even if there are volume removal errors.15:52
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: yeah, currently libvirt is handled15:52
openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Get list of disks to copy early to avoid multiple DB hits  https://review.openstack.org/25250615:52
openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Allow block live migration of an instance with attached volumes  https://review.openstack.org/22727815:52
ildikovI plan to show up on those team meetings this week, I hope they're still running and check with the guys15:52
johnthetubaguyildikov: yes, just meaning we need to make sure it fails for the other drivers, I think, until they know they are safe15:52
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ildikovjohnthetubaguy: do you have a point in mind where it would be best to handle it?15:53
mriedemsmatzek: "off the top of my head, Cinder would fail to delete the volume, which would trigger an error in Nova, but Nova has historically been able to remove instances even if there are volume removal errors."15:53
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mriedemsmatzek: i don't think that's necessarily true, at least with upstream nova15:53
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ildikovI mean to check which virt driver is used and allow, not allow multi-attach based on that15:53
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mriedemsmatzek: see this quagmire https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184537/15:53
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johnthetubaguyildikov: commented on the patches, basically add a capability on the virt driver, and check it in the compute manager, I think15:54
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ildikovjohnthetubaguy: ok, cool, sounds good thanks15:55
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: I'm also playing with the RPC API to pass down the attachment_id, where we have it from the Nova API15:55
ildikovI have some test issues though, but well I also have a few hours left from the day...15:56
sdagueso, we've had 5 gate fails today because of nova py34 unit test racing in mox15:56
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: is that a good direction to put effort in? I remember you had a comment on this option too15:57
smatzekmridem: I'm sure there are issues with the *-ing states, but normal deletion of a successfully created VM with attached volumes simply warns if it can't delete the volume.  https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L236115:57
smatzekthis would be the case for a multi-attached volume.  The last one out would then succeed on the delete, discounting any other races of others doing create servers / attaches using the volume.15:57
sdaguethat's a level of carnage we can't really keep around. How would people feel about moving python34 to the check queue only. And the occational merge conflict break just has to be dealt with quickly on the next go around.15:58
openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: Live migration fails when the instance has a config_drive_format=iso9660  https://review.openstack.org/23465915:58
doffmmriedem: Reading your notes on the flavor api_db patch. Does nova have shadow tables on flavors currently? Are there shadow tables for everything?15:58
mriedemdoffm: in the non-api db there are shadow tables for everything (i think)15:58
johnthetubaguysdague: given its not covering everything yet, thats probably quite a good solution15:59
mriedemexcept maybe the tags table15:59
doffmAnd they are only accessed by the archiving command?15:59
dansmithsdague: oof15:59
dimssdague : i have 2 reviews in progress that fully runs all the nova tests with py34 and have blacklisted all the flaky ones15:59
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sdaguedims: links?15:59
johnthetubaguysdague: do we know if its a specific mox3 thing we are hitting15:59
dansmithsdague: seems like a bad direction to go, but it's not like we're going to convert off of mox or fix it anytime soon...15:59
mriedemdoffm: i think so, shadow tables are only used to archive things from the regular tables after they are soft deleted16:00
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sdaguedansmith: what is the likelyhood there is an automatic merge that works fine for python 2.7 but not for 3.4?16:00
sdaguebecause that's all we'd be giving up16:00
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openstackgerritRyan Moore proposed openstack/nova: Add better help to rdp options  https://review.openstack.org/25355616:00
openstackgerritRyan Moore proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section: "rdp"  https://review.openstack.org/25238916:00
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dansmithsdague: yeah, probably low16:01
sdagueit's definitely less than 5 a day16:01
doffmmriedem: Ok, so we just won't have archiving for the API db.16:01
dimssdague : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261045/ and the one before that in the series16:01
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mriedemdoffm: i assume not, but i haven't gone back to check if the existing tables in the api db are also using the soft delete mixin16:01
pkoniszewskiPaulMurray: all patches updated, comments addressed16:01
PaulMurraypkoniszewski, thanks - will do16:02
mriedemdoffm: looks like the existing tables in the api db don't use soft delete columns16:02
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mriedemwhich is good16:02
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mriedemdoffm: so i don't think we should do that for flavors in the api db either16:03
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doffmmriedem: Ok. Things just get hard deleted, I have no idea if thats good or not. I'll just accept.16:05
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/nova: Migrate from keystoneclient to keystoneauth  https://review.openstack.org/25379316:05
mriedemdoffm: that was the long-term direction we talked about at the YVR summit at least16:05
mriedemwe = those who were there16:06
sdaguedims: so the one before it fails on py3416:06
dimssdague i have to copy an entry from the last one16:06
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: doc: add devref about versioned notifications  https://review.openstack.org/26378816:07
sdagueok, can we start with just a patch that you think blacklists some racing16:07
sdaguethis looks like the stuff I was seeing in other fails16:07
dimssdague : ack16:07
dimsgive me a sec16:07
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Cleanup EC2 related code  https://review.openstack.org/26336816:08
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Blacklist flaky test  https://review.openstack.org/26378916:11
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dimssdague : one flaky test case ^^16:11
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sdaguecan we add comments to that file?16:11
sdagueI'm concerned someone is going to think they fixed things, when they did not16:12
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sdaguejohnthetubaguy / dansmith - would be good to know if - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259096 was going to be a direction to head in, if so we could probably low hanging fruit a lot of the transition16:13
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dimssdague : will have to update ostestr first.16:14
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Remove useless header not need microversion  https://review.openstack.org/22415216:14
sdaguedims: as in there is a version out there that supports it? or that it would have to be patched in?16:14
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dimssdague : we need to add code in ostestr to ignore comments and do a release16:15
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sdaguedims: hmmm... ok16:19
dimssdague : the os_testr.py supports comments in blacklist files only at the moment16:19
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dimslet me take care of that16:19
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup NovaObjectDictCompat from security_group_rule  https://review.openstack.org/20128216:21
dansmithsdague: I'm fine with it.. I wonder if we should name that method something more obvious though16:22
sdaguedansmith: name suggestions welcomed16:23
dansmithsdague: like self.stub_out or something.. patch is pretty generic and overused16:23
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sdaguesure, that would work for me.16:23
dansmithI don't want to bikeshed on the name, but we will end up putting it everywhere16:23
mriedemi like just stub()16:23
mriedemcloser to what's being replaced16:24
dansmithwell, stub_out() implies doing something to me, where stub() could be a stub itself16:24
dansmithi.e. stub_out_with_mock or whatever it's called16:24
mriedemsure16:24
anteayahey nova folks16:25
sdagueok, so stub_out ?16:25
mriedemsounds good16:25
sdagueok, will respin16:25
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anteayaso someone wants to create a new project and is mentioning nova drivers in the description: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263500/16:25
anteayaI'm not clear on what they want and neither are the cinder folks, thought some nova folks might want to take a peek16:26
mriedemjacket?16:26
mriedemmembers-only?16:26
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dansmithanteaya: they're proposing a thing we've clearly stated is not the mission of nova, IMHO16:26
anteayadansmith: wonderful16:27
dansmithanteaya: so that explains why it's not being proposed here, I think16:27
anteayawould you mind stating your opinion for the patch owner's benefit?16:27
mriedemthis is the same thing huawei was doing, or trying to do, right? or someone at the kilo summit was talking about this same idea.16:27
anteayadansmith: great, I'm not a fan of end runs16:27
anteayamriedem: oh?16:27
dansmithmriedem: similar, yeah16:27
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dansmithanteaya: does not being in nova's mission mean they can't create the project?16:28
mriedembasically wrap and proxy all other public cloud APIs16:28
anteayamriedem: I don't know this history, can you point me at something?16:28
alaskicascading?  which became tricircle now I think?16:28
dansmithI mean, having an openstack project of out of tree nova drivers, which we officially don't support seems like a messaging problem16:28
anteayadansmith: no, it just mentions nova drivers specifically16:28
mriedemalaski: yeah fractals was really just federation16:28
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anteayaand I'm not a fan of having more confusion in the driver maintainer/ci operator space16:28
anteayaif that is what this will create16:28
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anteayadansmith: yeah I'm not interested in spending time hand holding ci operators for drivers that aren't supported16:29
dansmithanteaya: I will comment that "nova drivers" is not a thing and request they change their verbiage to "unsupported nova hacks"16:30
anteayaso basically this is a heads up, this is a patch I saw and I don't know enough details yet16:30
anteayadansmith: I can get behind that16:30
mriedemyeah the cinder guys already -1'ed asking for more details16:30
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: introduce ``stub_out`` method to base test class  https://review.openstack.org/25909616:31
sdaguedansmith / mriedem new name16:32
openstackgerritMarkus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: single point of entry for sample config generation  https://review.openstack.org/26001516:32
dansmithanteaya: done16:32
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anteayadansmith: thank you16:32
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anteayathanks mriedem and alaski, this helps16:34
mriedemanteaya: alaski: https://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-paris-summit-2014/session-videos/presentation/building-multi-site-and-38-multi-openstack-cloud-with-openstack-cascading16:36
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mriedemthat was not the nova design session, but same guys16:37
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openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack/nova: Stop explicitly running test discovery for py34  https://review.openstack.org/26379816:37
mtreinishsdague, dims: ^^^16:37
anteayamriedem: thanks16:37
anteayaalmost got caught with the m<tab> there, whew16:37
sdaguemtreinish: thanks16:38
mriedemmtreinishedem16:38
dimsmtreinish : +116:38
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alaskianteaya: mriedem yeah, that has turned into https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tricircle it seems16:39
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anteayagoodness16:40
mtreinishmriedem: maybe on friday I'll use that16:41
anteayayeah just share a nick16:41
anteayathat will help me a lot16:41
anteayathanks16:41
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dansmithmriedem: good call on faking out self.stubs.Set ... if we do the warning that would make for good work for a newbie16:42
dansmithI guess we don't  need the warning for the newbie actually16:43
dansmithbut if we use warnings we'd only get ncpus warnings16:43
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mriedemdansmith: we'd have a ton of warnings right now16:44
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sdaguemriedem: yeh, I think once we got a chunk transitioned over, that would be a good thing to do16:45
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dansmithmriedem: if we use python warnings we'd have ncpus warnings16:50
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openstackgerritMarkus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize section "database" + "api_database"  https://review.openstack.org/26380416:51
sdagueif we set the warnings right16:52
mriedem"Repetitions of a particular warning for the same source location are typically suppressed."16:52
dansmithmriedem: right, which would be in our stub16:52
sdagueanyway, lets get some amount of things converted first16:52
mriedemyeah, unless you change to always16:53
mriedemhttps://docs.python.org/2/library/warnings.html#warning-filter16:53
mriedembut yeah, getting ahead of ourselves16:53
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mriedemnow if you're excuse me i have to watch an 8 minute propaganda video by my senior VP16:54
mriedem*you'll16:54
sdaguemriedem: didn't he retire16:54
dansmithheh16:54
mriedemsdague: executives don't retire16:54
mriedemsdague: not walt ling :)16:54
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tpeoplessdague: do you already have a fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1487262 by chance?  i was planning on playing with that a bit today so i could test it out for you if you do16:57
openstackLaunchpad bug 1487262 in devstack "live migration doesn't work with default config" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Sean Dague (sdague)16:57
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sdaguetpeoples: there is a patch up, I guess it assigned the bug to me because I fixed something in it16:59
sdaguehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/221200/16:59
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tpeoplessdague: ah okay, i'll play with that and review it. thanks17:00
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mriedemi think i have some vomit left in my mouth17:04
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ndipanovlol what17:07
ndipanovah ok I read back a bit17:08
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lxslijohnthetubaguy: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/70/206070/11/check/gate-nova-docs/280a1fe//doc/build/html/process.html#overview17:12
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johnthetubaguylxsli: sweet17:13
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Move wsgi options into a group  https://review.openstack.org/26381217:17
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lxslicool, thanks john17:19
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alaskisdague: thoughts on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257439/7/nova/tests/functional/api_samples_test_base.py ?  I'm fine approving as is but want see how you feel17:22
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ndipanovildikov, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193133/31 <- sorry I didn't get to this sooner17:24
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ildikovndipanov: no problem17:27
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ildikovndipanov: I did it this way by a suggestion from johnthetubaguy17:27
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ndipanovildikov, I don't think it makes a lot of sense to do this with objects17:27
ndipanovit has no meaning17:27
johnthetubaguywhich bit is that?17:27
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/193133/31/nova/objects/block_device.py17:27
ildikovthere was a comment in the method that it should be fixed, etc17:27
ndipanovhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/193133/3117:27
ildikovsorry, I might misunderstood that comment17:28
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ndipanovildikov, you can't really just change what a method does with objects17:29
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ndipanovthere's no versioned dispatch17:29
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johnthetubaguyndipanov: so we do have to keep the old version working, for the older computes talking the old object version, as I understand it17:30
ndipanovyep17:30
ndipanovwe need a new method17:30
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ndipanovand keep the old one until major version bump17:31
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mriedemyou can't really deprecate/remove get_by_volume_id since volume_snapshot_create is using it, as ndipanov pointed out17:32
ildikovndipanov: the method you referred to falls back to the original version in the sense of the no instance_uuid case17:32
ndipanovildikov, then don't bump the version of the object17:33
ndipanovildikov, but since you said you want to deprecate it (which is probably the right thing to do) - a new method would be the way to go17:33
ildikovndipanov: ok, I wasn't 100% sure when to bump, but can easily remove that bit17:34
johnthetubaguybut don't we need to bump because the hash has changed, by convention at least?17:34
ildikovI'm not sure when we can make instance uuid mandatory if that's even possible17:34
ndipanovildikov, we could with a new method17:34
ndipanovjohnthetubaguy, well ok but it still has no meaning17:35
ildikovI wonder whther it's really needed17:35
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ildikovndipanov: your note in the original version was meant to be part of a new function?17:36
johnthetubaguyI like adding a new method, to make that arg mandatory, but I guess it just calls through to the other method for now? unless we want the old method to fail if there is any multi-attach present?17:36
mriedemndipanov: you raise a good point about volume_snapshot_create - that won't work with multiattach17:36
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mriedemif you're trying to use volume_snapshot_create with a multiattach volume, you don't know which instance to use17:36
ndipanovmriedem, well it's a niche use case somewhat17:36
ildikovit was a separate method originally :.(17:36
ndipanovbut yeah17:36
mriedemndipanov: sure, but17:37
mriedemit's still in the api17:37
ndipanovyou should probably disallow it17:37
mriedemright17:37
mriedemvolume_snapshot_create should fail if the volume is multiattach17:37
mriedemprobably another thing to update in the spec17:37
ndipanovy17:37
mriedemildikov: ^17:37
johnthetubaguyyeah, that sounds correct, thats only for local volumes I guess?17:37
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ildikovmriedem: yeah, noted it17:37
mriedemi remember looking at the volume_snapshot_create method in the libvirt driver awhile back and wondering how that was used when snaspshoting a volume-backed instance,17:38
mriedemturns out it's not :)17:38
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mriedemthat's not at all confusing17:38
johnthetubaguyyeah...17:38
mriedemelif disk_info['source_protocol'] in ('gluster', 'netfs'):17:39
mriedemand there are fun vendor specific checks in there17:39
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ildikovnice one17:40
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openstackgerritdane-fichter proposed openstack/nova: Add image signature verification  https://review.openstack.org/18984317:40
openstackgerritRushi Agrawal proposed openstack/nova: Remove mox and Stubs from tests/unit/pci/test_manager.py  https://review.openstack.org/26336217:41
ildikovwhat to do with that method?17:41
mriedemi think we just have to add a check to the volume_snapshot_create API that if the volume is multiattach we have to fail with a 40017:41
johnthetubaguyseems safest17:42
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mriedemor you have to update the api to take an instance uuid17:42
mriedemfor multiattach volumes17:42
ildikovI meant the get_by_volume_id :)17:42
mriedemoh17:42
rushiagrsdague: I see that you are the drafter for blueprint 'remove-mox'. I would like to help with implementing the blueprint. Where should I express interest in implementing it?17:43
ildikovI'm fine with disabling snapshot for those cases now, I added a note to myslef I have to do that too17:43
mriedemildikov: i'm thinking a new method where volume id and instance uuid are required17:43
ildikovwhy is it necessary to have instance.uuid as mandatory?17:43
mriedemildikov: b/c it's a pass through to the db api17:43
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mriedemvia the object17:43
mriedemand it's required in the db api17:43
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ildikovyou mean the object layer should be a clean proxy without logic?17:44
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ildikovI mean it's checked now in get_by_volume_id and calls the right db method17:44
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mriedemif you leave it the way you have it, then like ndipanov said i don't see why the version would be bumped17:46
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mriedemhonestly i defer to dansmith on the right approach here17:46
mriedemdansmith: context https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193133/31/nova/objects/block_device.py - /me goes to warm up lunch17:47
ildikovok, got it17:47
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dansmithildikov: yeah, new method for new behavior17:48
dansmithwhich requires a minor bump of course17:48
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ildikovok, I will not go into what's new behavior as it would go to a philosophical discussion, just go and create the new method17:50
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ildikovso the behaviour is not changed basically just realized in a more clear way that uses the db for filtering as opposed to the object layer17:51
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mriedemdims: is there a page that tells me what packages i need to install to make py34 work with nova?17:52
mriedemnew vm and i never remember17:53
ildikovdansmith: I still need to ask, does that still count as new behavior?17:53
dimsmriedem : one sec17:53
dimsmriedem : apt_get install python3.4 python3.4-dev17:54
mriedemah, i already had python3 but i guess that's not cool enough17:54
mriedemand python3 --version is 3.4.017:54
dimsmriedem : we have a USE_PYTHON3 in devstack17:55
mriedemyeah i don't have devstack on this vm17:55
dimsthat's the only additional thing we do there17:55
dimsmriedem : what seems to fail?17:55
mriedemi'm going to update https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Python317:55
mriedemwas missing the gcc stuff17:55
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sdaguerushiagr: let me build a list of things that can be done there17:56
dimsmriedem : ah ok.17:56
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rushiagrsdague: thank you :)17:57
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Blacklist flaky test and add warning  https://review.openstack.org/26378917:57
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dimsmriedem : sdague : that should do it ^^17:59
dansmithildikov: does what... adding a method?17:59
mriedemdims: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Python3#Before_you_begin17:59
ildikovdansmith: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193133/31/nova/objects/block_device.py18:00
Anticimexhey.  where can i find the definitions of the gerrit checks that runs on openstack/puppet-nova ?18:00
dimsmriedem : +118:00
mriedemAnticimex: the project-config repo18:00
mriedemhas the jobs that run on that repo18:00
mriedemwhich is not nova18:00
* Anticimex (operator) a bit new to the devthing18:00
mriedemso not this channel18:00
ildikovdansmith: basically remove an error and do the filtering in the db instead of the function in the object layer18:00
Anticimexack, i'll look more18:00
Anticimexmriedem: ack18:01
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mriedemAnticimex: i think ##puppet-openstack is the channel you're looking for18:01
mriedemAnticimex: https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml#L784718:01
Anticimexmriedem: thx!18:01
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mriedemyw18:01
dansmithildikov: the critical thing comes down to: is it a behavioral change from the client perspective?18:01
dansmithildikov: kinda looks like not from just glancing at your code.. would it ever return a different bdm or fail to return one when it would be returned today?18:02
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ildikovdansmith: it wouldn't return a different bdm18:03
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ildikovdansmith: I was asked to change the behaviour of the db functions, because of which it can fail in cases, where it did not previously as it used to return the first() and now it's one_or_none()18:04
johnthetubaguyildikov: it could fail to return, if a multi-attach happened, I think? yeah, I didn't want to use first() as it would return a random BDM18:05
ildikovdansmith: but that has nothing to do with the method change in the object layer18:05
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dansmithildikov: right, so it would never return None before, but now can instead of raising an exception?18:05
ildikovdansmith: as far as I can understand because of race conditions in cells those functions have problem even without the multiattach case18:06
dansmithildikov: the important thing to remember is that all of these calls are RPC, so you can't change their behavior in such a way that will affect a client on the previous version of nova18:06
dansmithildikov: yeah, "could be racy" is not a good justification for not handling this properly :)18:06
johnthetubaguyit should still raise on None from the DB, like it did before, I thought?18:06
ildikovso when it was previously None it will still be18:07
ildikovbecause of the DB function changes it will raise exception if multiple BDMs are found as opposed to one18:07
dansmithildikov: then no, you can't make that change18:07
ildikovbut it's independent from the object layer change, it will be still an issue it I add a new method there18:08
mriedemildikov: maybe that should be raising InvalidVolume in the DB API instead of the new thing18:08
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ildikovmriedem: but that will still be a new behaviour18:08
ildikovcompared to how that method behaves today18:09
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ildikovso the old and the new DB method behave differently than earlier18:10
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Cleanup EC2 related code  https://review.openstack.org/26336818:11
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ildikovI can change back the DB behaviour and then the API layer method will behave the same18:13
ildikovs/API/object/18:13
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patrickeastmriedem: hey, sorry to keep bugging you about it, if you get a chance could you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205726/ again?18:42
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Make xvp proxy into vnc group  https://review.openstack.org/23539818:44
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: config options: Centralise 'vnc' options  https://review.openstack.org/26376318:44
mriedemdidn't i already +2 that thing?18:47
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dane-fichterDoes anyone know what the necessary steps for changing a managed object are?19:21
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lmtaylor1Hey, if i wanted to clean up so code in nova, like removing some old unused code.... do i need to open up a launchpad bug first? or just do the patch19:30
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dimslmtaylor1 : never hurts to open a bug report. have you looked at this page already? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Mentoring19:34
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lmtaylor1Does anyone know if the get_lock policy action and the get_lock method are being used anymore? Could they be removed19:39
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sdaguelmtaylor1: they don't seem to be in the current code, as that's all wrapped behind instance objects now19:45
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rlrossit_dane-fichter: are you talking about versioned objects? what are you looking to change?19:46
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mriedemlmtaylor1: generally i don't think a bug is required for removing dead code19:49
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mriedemis it just me or does the -- <test id> not work with the py34 target?19:50
mriedemis there another way to specify specific tests to run with the py34 target?19:51
dimsmriedem : it doesn't19:51
mriedemboo19:51
dansmithyeah19:51
dimsmriedem : i activate the venv and run "ostestr --regex xyz"19:51
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mriedemok, doing that now19:52
dimsmriedem : once you +2 my py34 reviews can switch things over. right now we need black/white lists as we run subset of tests :)19:52
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mriedemi can't review anything in the 8 minutes before the TC meeting of doom19:52
mriedemi'd just like to get my tests passing19:52
dimsmriedem : i was kidding :)19:52
mriedemoh dimsy19:54
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dimsmriedem : the reviews themselves i have run it over and over to remove the kinds, but i fully expect it to take a while as they are kind of big reviews19:55
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dimsmriedem : at the end we'll just have a handful(4) of tests that are flaky which we can skip using skipIf() and drop ostestr completely19:56
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Use oslo_log instead of logging  https://review.openstack.org/26143419:56
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openstackgerritdane-fichter proposed openstack/nova: Add image signature verification  https://review.openstack.org/18984319:58
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: sort block_device_list in volume_in_mapping log  https://review.openstack.org/26333820:07
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openstackgerritLauren Taylor proposed openstack/nova: Remove get_lock method and policy action  https://review.openstack.org/26388820:13
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openstackgerritLauren Taylor proposed openstack/nova: Remove get_lock method and policy action  https://review.openstack.org/26388820:27
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openstackgerritMichal Pryc proposed openstack/nova: Implements proper UUID format for test_compute_mgr.  https://review.openstack.org/26389220:34
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/nova-specs: Neutron Routed Networks  https://review.openstack.org/26389820:52
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tonybmriedem: any reason we shoudl hold off on the kilo novaclient release?21:06
mriedemtonyb: don't think so, i +1ed21:07
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Remove Deprecated EC2 and ObjectStore impl/tests  https://review.openstack.org/26336821:20
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dimssdague : got the ec2 filter/application shim(s) working as we talked about this morning (grenade is green) ^21:21
openstackgerritRyan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: Use extra_data_func to get fingerprints of objects  https://review.openstack.org/26391521:22
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mtreinishdims: ooh, -10k lines nice21:23
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dimsmtreinish :)21:25
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mriedempatrickeast: done21:27
patrickeastmriedem: thanks!21:28
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patrickeastmriedem: oh also, you were asking about turning on the image cache in devstack, i'm turning it on for the pure ci (once a fix lands in cinder) with https://github.com/patrick-east/devstack-plugin-cinder-image-cache21:29
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patrickeastshould be able to use that for lvm or whatever on jenkins jobs too21:29
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mriedempatrickeast: ok, i don't plan on actually pushing buttons on that one21:31
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mriedemi just figured it might be in the best interest of the cinder team if it helps tests passing in the gate21:32
patrickeastmriedem: gotcha21:34
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bauzasoh man, mox why are you so mean ?21:42
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mriedembauzas: this is the sock that mox wears http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81ndYyOvF-L._SY355_.jpg21:51
dansmithlol21:51
bauzasmriedem: folks, we all agree to skip mox and just marry us with mock,right ?21:52
bauzasI'd be very cool to kill it21:52
bauzasat least in the sched rpcapi tests :)21:52
mriedembauzas: we agreed on that years ago21:52
bauzasyeah I know21:52
bauzasso...21:52
* bauzas goes to find his axe21:52
mriedemwhat we haven't said we'd do is proactivelly convert all mox tests to mock21:52
mriedemb/c reviewing that sucks21:52
mriedemsans one l21:53
bauzaswinter is coming anyway21:53
mriedemthis is not game of thrones21:53
* melwitt laughs at the sock picture21:53
mriedemthere are far too few butt cheeks21:53
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bauzasthat https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/unit/scheduler/test_rpcapi.py#L60-L61 is just awesomeness21:54
dansmithI lost a lot of interest in game of thrones when they stopped showing like 35% nudity per episode21:55
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mriedembauzas: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257972/ is related21:56
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bauzas++21:57
bauzasalthough I'm not specifically sold with py3 :p21:58
bauzaswe can wait until 2020 you know :p21:58
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cdentat current speeds that still won't be enough tme21:59
bauzashttps://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0373/21:59
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bauzasI mean, we're OpenStack, we can fork Py2.7 to be StackPy :p22:00
cdentugh22:00
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bauzascdent: at least, IPv6 had its 20yrs birthday :D22:01
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bauzasanyway, axing now22:02
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openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Clean up filter_properties/availability_zone in boot  https://review.openstack.org/25443422:04
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: WIP Persist the request spec during an instance boot  https://review.openstack.org/25862822:04
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: WIP Populate instance_mappings during boot.  https://review.openstack.org/26392522:04
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: WIP Add buildrequest db/object  https://review.openstack.org/26392622:04
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: WIP Create Instance from BuildRequest if not in a cell  https://review.openstack.org/26392722:04
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alaskibauzas: melwitt dansmith ^ roughing out how instance boot might work with cellsv2.  feedback very welcome22:05
bauzasalaski: sure, that's very cool22:05
melwittalaski: nice, will take a look22:05
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bauzasalaski: not sure you heard about http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/check-destination-on-migrations.html but that's pretty related since we needed to persist/call the spec object for that22:08
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alaskibauzas: I'm aware of it, but I don't know enough about it to say whether what I've done is enough for that22:10
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alaskibauzas: but I'm looking at persisting in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258628/2/nova/compute/api.py22:10
bauzasalaski: yeah hence the above22:10
bauzasalaski: because the check-dest spec has a work item for that22:10
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bauzasso I think having it written for cells v2 is very cool too22:10
alaskiyeah, looking at this briefly it seems that the persistence I'm adding for cells will meet the needs for migration22:11
bauzaszactly22:11
bauzas+ the benefits of caring about cells v222:11
bauzaswhich couldn't be that obvious for lxsli or me22:11
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jrolldansmith: hey, where did the 'big discussion' about that backwards compat library spec happen? (the one mentioned in tc meeting)22:19
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smcginnisjroll: Is this what you're looking for? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157/22:33
jrollsmcginnis: no, dan mentioned an irc discussion22:34
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smcginnisjroll: Ah, not sure about that one then.22:34
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melwittjroll: it appears to be in the #openstack-oslo channel archive http://goo.gl/P74zDF22:40
jrollmelwitt: aha, thanks22:40
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Blacklist flaky test and add warning  https://review.openstack.org/26378922:41
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dansmithjroll: oslo channel22:46
jrollyeah, see it now, thanks22:46
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: Remove Deprecated EC2 and ObjectStore impl/tests  https://review.openstack.org/26336822:50
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [python3] byte/string conversions and enable more tests  https://review.openstack.org/26104523:04
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [python3] Port more code to python3 and enable tests  https://review.openstack.org/26208323:04
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Modify Scheduler RPC API to use RequestSpec obj  https://review.openstack.org/19920523:04
bauzasmriedem: dansmith: Yippee ki yay ^23:04
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bauzasbye mox http://38.media.tumblr.com/b2bea8065b3a4844fed1451ef5b6a4ac/tumblr_inline_nh46stLmOK1t41hw8.gif23:06
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openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Allow multiple volume attachments  https://review.openstack.org/19313523:22
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: comp: Allow multiple volume attachments  https://review.openstack.org/19313423:22
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: WIP: REST API changes to support multi-attach  https://review.openstack.org/15303823:22
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: WIP: virt: Pass host when call attach to Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/25627323:22
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openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Allow multiple volume attachments  https://review.openstack.org/19313523:25
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: comp: Allow multiple volume attachments  https://review.openstack.org/19313423:25
openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: db and obj: Allow multiple volume attachments  https://review.openstack.org/19313323:25
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openstackgerritIldiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova: WIP: virt: Pass host when call attach to Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/25627323:25
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dimsdansmith : melwitt : easy one if you get a chance - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263789/ - block flaky py34 tests23:39
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oomichimtreinish: sdague: hi, can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263567/ ?23:39
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