Wednesday, 2016-05-18

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stewie925hi all00:13
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stewie925I was able to stack using the "enable_service n-cell" configuration on local.conf00:14
stewie925and I am trying to boot multiple instances via 'nova boot' command but its complaining too few arguments00:15
stewie925oops I got it - I forgot to put the name of the instance....00:18
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openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova: Fall back to raw config drive if not found in rbd  https://review.openstack.org/31778500:22
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/nova-specs: Neutron Routed Networks  https://review.openstack.org/26389800:33
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openstackgerritSivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova: Improve the help text for the API options  https://review.openstack.org/31778800:37
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auggyjaypipes: for the record, i also think the same thing when i see bdm mentioned00:52
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openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Make Aggregate metadata functions work with API db  https://review.openstack.org/29735000:57
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Block aggregate creation until main database empty  https://review.openstack.org/31523500:57
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openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Add aggregates tables to the API db.  https://review.openstack.org/29480600:57
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Add data migration methods for Aggregate.  https://review.openstack.org/31478200:57
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Make Aggregate.save work with the API db  https://review.openstack.org/30546600:57
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Aggregate create and destroy work against API db  https://review.openstack.org/31478100:57
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Make Aggregate host operations work against API db  https://review.openstack.org/29659700:57
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Make AggregateList.get_ return API & cell db items  https://review.openstack.org/29606200:57
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Make Aggregate.get operation favor the API db  https://review.openstack.org/29601400:57
openstackgerritAugustina Ragwitz proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: limits.inc validate parameters  https://review.openstack.org/31521600:58
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auggyjaypipes: http://i.imgur.com/I2BR4xw.png01:01
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Name and AZ should as be optional param on aggregate-update  https://review.openstack.org/31584901:23
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yonglihelbeliveau: we had fixed the experimental test cases bug,   thanks. retrigger function is under test, while finished, operator could retrigger that patch test.01:28
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Clean up deprecated CLI options  https://review.openstack.org/31779501:33
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tonybalex_xu: Can you +1 this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317793/ (when gerrot recovers)01:39
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alex_xutonyb: done, +101:43
tonybalex_xu: Thanks :)01:43
alex_xutonyb: np01:44
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: parameter  verification for os-server-groups  https://review.openstack.org/31539402:05
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openstackgerritZhenguo Niu proposed openstack/nova: [Ironic] Correct check for ready to deploy  https://review.openstack.org/31746202:07
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: Fix parameters in servers-action-shelve.inc  https://review.openstack.org/31780302:19
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: parameter verification for os-hypervisors  https://review.openstack.org/31668102:19
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/31695102:38
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Name and AZ should as be optional param on aggregate-update  https://review.openstack.org/31584903:14
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openstackgerritEli Qiao proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Prevent block live migration with tunnelled flag  https://review.openstack.org/31070703:34
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Clean up deprecated CLI options  https://review.openstack.org/31779503:41
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openstackgerritZhenguo Niu proposed openstack/nova: [Ironic] Correct check for ready to deploy  https://review.openstack.org/31746203:58
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openstackgerritJaesang Lee proposed openstack/nova: This is Test.  https://review.openstack.org/31783004:52
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openstackgerritHieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: move set default opt of db section to centralized place  https://review.openstack.org/31783204:58
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: Example verification for servers-action-shelve.inc  https://review.openstack.org/31783605:10
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/31695105:48
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openstackgerritXuanzhou Perry Dong proposed openstack/nova: [Trivial] Fix a grammar error in comments  https://review.openstack.org/31784505:54
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Clean up deprecated CLI options  https://review.openstack.org/31779506:24
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openstackgerritHiroyuki Eguchi proposed openstack/nova-specs: Versioned notification for keypairs  https://review.openstack.org/30094206:29
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openstackgerritHiroyuki Eguchi proposed openstack/nova-specs: Versioned notification for keypairs  https://review.openstack.org/30094206:34
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zhangyufeiCould anyone help review this?https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317306/06:57
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openstackgerritErez A. Korn proposed openstack/nova: Testing upload permissions  https://review.openstack.org/31786307:02
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openstackgerritkevin shen proposed openstack/nova: fix the limit of injected file content length is incorrect problem  https://review.openstack.org/31786507:08
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: api-ref keypair update (os-keypairs.inc)  https://review.openstack.org/31450207:33
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openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: pci: Deprecate is_new from pci requests  https://review.openstack.org/31099007:53
openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: pci: Allow to update pci_requests in instance_extra  https://review.openstack.org/31202807:53
openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: pci: Move PCI devices and PCI requests into migration context  https://review.openstack.org/30712407:53
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Clean up deprecated CLI options  https://review.openstack.org/31779507:56
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openstackgerritPaul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: Implementation of Libvirt Storage Pools  https://review.openstack.org/31413407:58
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Testing latest u-c  https://review.openstack.org/30334508:10
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Testing latest u-c  https://review.openstack.org/30334508:10
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openstackgerritHieu LE proposed openstack/nova: Config options: replace usage of oslo_config by nova.conf  https://review.openstack.org/31789208:15
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openstackgerritAnton Arefiev proposed openstack/nova: Fix update inventory for multiple providers  https://review.openstack.org/31603108:20
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gibijohnthetubaguy: I think we resolved every issues in versioned notification transformation spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286675/, could you check it please?08:32
johnthetubaguywill do, thats on my list for today08:33
gibijohnthetubaguy: thanks a lot08:33
johnthetubaguygibi: start small and expand as needed makes good sense08:33
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gibijohnthetubaguy: you might see that we started pushing up some PoC code as well, so we don't loosing time waiting for the spec approval.08:35
johnthetubaguygibi: makes good sense08:35
gibijohnthetubaguy: it is still WIP but shows how the solution might look at the end08:36
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gibijohnthetubaguy: it is up here https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/versioned-notification-transformation-newton08:36
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs: Allow user to define the shutdown method through API when stop instances  https://review.openstack.org/29379008:36
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openstackgerritSudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova-specs: Complete Nova support for Glance's v2  https://review.openstack.org/30174108:37
sudiptojohnthetubaguy, ^ hopefully have addressed the review comments.08:37
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openstackgerritJens Rosenboom proposed openstack/nova: Warn about unset cache backend  https://review.openstack.org/30771808:43
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hieulqmarkus_z: do you think this patch is OK? --> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317892/08:49
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markus_zhieulq: let me take a look08:50
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hieulqmarkus_z: thanks08:51
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markus_zhieulq: I think removing the imports completely (especially in the unit tests) would be better08:52
markus_zhieulq: having this in the /nova/cmd/* makes sense08:54
markus_zhieulq: I just leave a comment in the review :)08:54
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add pagination and timestamp filtering support for os-migrations API  https://review.openstack.org/23986908:55
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hieulqmarkus_z: thank you08:56
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add pagination and changes since filter support for os-isntance-action API  https://review.openstack.org/24040108:57
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add checks for volume status when rebuilding  https://review.openstack.org/21756708:59
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PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, would you expect a cold migrate to go to the resize_verify state and need a resize-confirm ?09:20
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PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, ah, this suggests yes: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide/cli_nova_migrate.html09:23
PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, that's got to be nuts09:23
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johnthetubaguyPaulMurray: it does go through all that09:23
johnthetubaguyafter cold migrate, you need to confirm, etc09:23
openstackgerritShimon Benattar proposed openstack/nova: a change to discard  https://review.openstack.org/31792509:24
johnthetubaguynow I think there is a horrid config option to do the confirm automatically, somehwere09:24
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johnthetubaguybut I think that applies for both resize and cold migrate09:24
johnthetubaguyPaulMurray: they are totally the same code, just with an optional resize step, AFAIK09:25
PaulMurrayyou can tell I don't normally use migrate09:25
openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Catch PciRequestAliasNotDefined exception  https://review.openstack.org/31792609:25
johnthetubaguyPaulMurray :)09:25
PaulMurrayI know they are the same thing, I just expected that it would skip that step09:25
johnthetubaguybut you are right, it feels largely nuts09:25
openstackgerritAnton Arefiev proposed openstack/nova: Fix update inventory for multiple providers  https://review.openstack.org/31603109:25
johnthetubaguyI guess you confirm it picked a host you are happy with, maybe...09:26
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PaulMurrayI was going to raise a bug, but seems its expected behaviour09:26
johnthetubaguyits part of why I really wanted to re-do the move APIs into a single API call, about 3 years ago, just not had time to do it09:26
johnthetubaguyyeah, its expected09:26
johnthetubaguyPaulMurray: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/compute.py#L25609:27
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PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, thanks, I don't think that helps me09:28
openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: Clarify SR-IOV ports vs direct passthrough ports  https://review.openstack.org/30089009:28
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zhangyufeiCould anyone help review this?https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317306/09:31
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markus_zbauzas: Got a minute?09:33
bauzasmarkus_z: sure :)09:33
markus_zbauzas: I'm thinking of deprecating the config option "fatal_exception_format_errors": https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/5f0f7af99a8dbf37da3e510aad77928b34bc0c75/nova/exception.py#L14409:34
markus_zbauzas: IIUC correctly we can replace that in code as it only gets used by unit tests.09:34
markus_zbauzas: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/4b6ab39393ced57456552b8f2772385a9dbf1a60/nova/tests/unit/conf_fixture.py#L5909:34
markus_zI see no reason why ops would set this.09:35
bauzasmarkus_z: mmm, lemme check09:35
markus_zand the inital commit for that said it was purely for testing purposes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18318/09:36
bauzasmarkus_z: right, I was blaming it09:37
markus_zbauzas: What do you mean?09:38
bauzasmarkus_z: I was finding it per git blame09:38
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bauzasmarkus_z: so, indeed, I don't really see a need for operators tuning that09:39
markus_zAh, right, "git blame". I thought about the normal "blaming" :)09:39
bauzasmarkus_z: rather, it should be a fixture for UTs09:39
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bauzasmarkus_z: so, if you want MHO, I think we should replace https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/4b6ab39393ced57456552b8f2772385a9dbf1a60/nova/tests/unit/conf_fixture.py#L59 by a fixture that would raise the exception if there is a format error, and deprecate that opt, yeah09:40
openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add prep-for-network-aware-scheduling spec  https://review.openstack.org/31300109:41
openstackgerritDonnie DONGKIE LEE proposed openstack/nova: Title: bugfix  https://review.openstack.org/31793209:41
markus_zbauzas: cool, then we're on the same page. I was worried I overlooked something. Thanks for your time!09:41
lifelessalaski: btw, that fixtures patch - yak shave galore. Down to one patch and a release of testtools, and can resume :)09:41
lifelessalaski: https://github.com/testing-cabal/testtools/pull/23209:41
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add prep-for-network-aware-scheduling spec  https://review.openstack.org/31300109:43
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tonybclaudiub: can you drop a +1 on this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317793/ please09:54
openstackgerritGábor Antal proposed openstack/nova-specs: Blueprints and specs link has been replaced  https://review.openstack.org/31794609:54
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bauzasalex_xu: morning10:00
bauzasalex_xu: I have a question about functional tests for API microversions10:00
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claudiubtonyb: seems the commit merged long before you've sent the message. :)10:04
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tonybclaudiub: Oh sorry I must have had an old page open with the update10:05
tonybclaudiub: Thanks for looking10:05
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openstackgerritAtsushi SAKAI proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: Add fault parameter details  https://review.openstack.org/31795510:09
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zarkoneHello! I have a problem with getting host cpu metrics, compute.node.cpu.percent: I can't see it in ceilometer metrics-list...10:15
openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: pci: Deprecate is_new from pci requests  https://review.openstack.org/31099010:15
openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: pci: Allow to update pci_requests in instance_extra  https://review.openstack.org/31202810:15
openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: pci: Move PCI devices and PCI requests into migration context  https://review.openstack.org/30712410:15
zarkoneseems like it's because nova-compute don't gather it from the host10:15
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bauzasalex_xu: nvm, found a solution10:23
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eanderssonWhen a VM is destroyed when a compute is offline. It looks like there is no notification generated once the compute computes back online.10:29
eanderssonBut the VM is still destroyed.10:29
eanderssonAnyone ran into this?10:29
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: Fixes disk overhead claim issue  https://review.openstack.org/24630710:34
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Resize API operation passing down original RequestSpec  https://review.openstack.org/31200910:36
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johnthetubaguybauzas: whats the plan with this one again? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312757/810:39
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I'm done locally with updating it10:39
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: now, I'm updating https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315572/610:40
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: but I'm struggling with doing the functional test coverage :(10:40
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: while you're here, do you know why we aren't covering error situations, like returning a 400 on a bad request ?10:40
johnthetubaguybauzas: they are normally covered, just not in the functional samples stuff10:41
bauzasyou mean UTs ?10:41
johnthetubaguybauzas: I think they are covered in the unit test side10:41
johnthetubaguyyeah10:41
bauzasokay, just wanted to make sure10:41
bauzasbecause I took like one hour to see how to correctly provide a functional test for verifying a 400...10:41
bauzas:p10:41
johnthetubaguyonce we get more complex error responses, I suspect that will have to change10:41
bauzasokay10:42
bauzasokay, so I should upload the series in the next hours10:42
johnthetubaguythe main thing for the functional, in my head, is to make the sample check as real as possible10:42
bauzasokay10:42
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sdaguebauzas: if you want to do negative testing on the functional side it's not that bad10:44
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: while you're here too, given I want to modify both evacuate and live-migrate in the same microversion, it means that the change could be huge10:44
sdaguedid you look at the regression tests?10:44
bauzassdague: which ones ?10:44
sdagueany of them10:44
johnthetubaguyoh good point, those regression tests do nice negative testing10:44
bauzassdague: oh, I see in the code path10:45
bauzassdague: okay, will see :)10:45
bauzasthanks !10:45
johnthetubaguybauzas: hmm, why not just do two microversions, if its really bad?10:45
johnthetubaguyI am curious what sdague's take is on that10:45
sdaguehttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/cdfbb9a668fdcf289ffdfa5252d102e9d3e2ec35/nova/tests/functional/regressions/test_bug_1522536.py#L2910:46
bauzaswe could have two versions yeah10:46
bauzassdague: yeah I found that example :)10:46
openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: Remove unused itype paramter in get migretion context  https://review.openstack.org/31797710:46
johnthetubaguybauzas: in the host manager, why are we having forced_nodes and requested_nodes, is that so we only check the requested_nodes?10:47
bauzasforced_nodes is for the boot, and it's not calling the filters10:47
bauzaswhild requested_nodes is for calling the filters to that only proposed node10:48
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bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I explained the diff in http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/check-destination-on-migrations-newton.html#proposed-change10:48
bauzas"Note that this new field would nothing have in common with a migration object or an Instance.host field, since it would just be a reference to an equivalent scheduler hint saying ‘I want to go there’ (and not the ugly force_hosts information passed as an Availability Zone hack...)."10:49
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: ideally, I want to deprecate the force_hosts field in Ocata and rather provide the same behaviour10:50
bauzasie. explicitely allowing a destination as an admin for a boot request or force it10:50
* bauzas bbiab10:50
openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: Remove unused itype paramter from get migretion context  https://review.openstack.org/31797710:50
johnthetubaguybauzas: thats, cool, I think we are saying the same things, just in different ways10:52
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johnthetubaguybauzas: so there is a way to break up your change, do the compute api change, before you add the rest API10:57
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sdaguejohnthetubaguy: the compute api changes are so small in there though10:59
sdagueI mean, you could11:00
johnthetubaguysdague: yeah, thats true, I was thinking there were the follow up RPC ones, but we did that already11:00
sdagueright, splitting the RPC out was a good call11:00
kashyapAnyone here got a link to Ubuntu 'Xenial' release libvirt tree by chance?11:01
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* kashyap is trying to check what non-upstreamed patches they carry -- which is causing the problem of not detecting custom CPU models in live migration Gate jobs, despite having them in cpu_map.xml.11:02
gibijohnthetubaguy: thanks for the +1 on the versioned notification spec. Do I guess correctly that it is not a +2 due to the naming?11:02
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johnthetubaguygibi: yeah, I am just curious what other folks think about it, I could be pushed towards an upgrade later if needed11:03
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gibijohnthetubaguy: OK. I will try to get the opinions of the others11:04
sdaguekashyap: if you have an ubuntu env you can 'apt-get source libvirt'11:04
kashyapsdague: Yeah. Just set up a Xenial minimal server, trying to get serial console access to it :-)11:04
sdaguehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libvirt-bin11:04
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sdaguehttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libv/libvirt/libvirt_1.3.1-1ubuntu10.debian.tar.xz should have all the patches in debian/patches11:05
kashyapsdague: Thanks!11:07
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Acquire TCP ports for console during live migration  https://review.openstack.org/27580111:08
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Add serial ports to the migration data object  https://review.openstack.org/21510211:08
kashyapsdague: That tarball corresponds to the Ubuntu 'Xenial' release right?11:09
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: api-ref verify servers-action-deferred-delete.inc  https://review.openstack.org/31799211:10
sdaguekashyap: yes11:11
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sdaguesee the first link11:11
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kashyapsdague: Ah, yeah -- that makes sense.11:11
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openstackgerritAnton Arefiev proposed openstack/nova: Fix update inventory for multiple providers  https://review.openstack.org/31603111:14
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: verify api-ref os-server-password.inc  https://review.openstack.org/31799411:16
alogastevemar: I have some OpenID changes related changes that I would like to submit11:18
alogastevemar: (related with python-keystoneclient)11:18
alogastevemar: namely, adding an access token authentication plugin, so that a client that already has an access token can use the keystoneclient instead of doing the API calls itself11:19
alogastevemar: I created a BP (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-keystoneclient/+spec/openid-access-token) but I have realised that there is already one approved, assigned to you (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-keystoneclient/+spec/openid-connect)11:20
alogastevemar: is it OK if I take over the BP asignee and submite the changes associated to it, closing my new BP?11:20
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gibialaski sdague: Could you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286675/ (versioned notification transformation), please? johnthetubaguy already expressed his general support but we need other spec cores opinion.11:24
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: verify api-ref os-instance-usage-audit-log.inc  https://review.openstack.org/31799811:29
sdaguegibi: sure, I'll put it on my review list11:29
sdaguealex_xu: you up for looking on my update for the flavors.inc yesterday?11:30
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gibisdague: thanks11:33
sdaguealex_xu: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314133/11:34
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openstackgerritSudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: Introduce a CONF flag to determine glance client version  https://review.openstack.org/31596311:39
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: verify api-ref os-migrations.inc  https://review.openstack.org/31800411:40
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: verify api-ref os-migrations.inc  https://review.openstack.org/31800411:41
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openstackgerritKaren Bradshaw proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: os-consoles.inc  https://review.openstack.org/31753611:46
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alex_xusdague: checking now12:08
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openstackgerritKaren Bradshaw proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: os-consoles.inc  https://review.openstack.org/31753612:11
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jdandreaQ: Are scheduler filters processed in the order they appear in nova.conf, first-to-last, or last-to-first? (Suspecting the former, but folks I'm talking with here suspect the *latter*! I disagree.)12:26
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lxsligibi: please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264146 when you can, thanks12:29
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openstackgerritMarkus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: config options: centralize exception options  https://review.openstack.org/31409112:30
openstackgerritMarkus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: deprecate config option "fatal_exception_format_errors"  https://review.openstack.org/31802112:30
lxslijdandrea: http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/config-reference/compute/config-options.html#nova-scheduler12:30
lxslisearch for scheduler_default_filters12:31
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lxsliedleafe: looks like the formatting didn't work out there :/12:31
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markus_zlxsli: yeah, that's on my todo list for too long :|12:32
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/nova: verify api-ref os-instance-usage-audit-log.inc  https://review.openstack.org/31799812:33
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lxslimarkus_z: it'd be easiest to provide extra structured fields (there's a spec up for this) rather than try to support embedded RST, as that needs to come out as DocBook somehow12:34
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markus_zlxsli: I thought the manuals team did fully transition from DocBook to rst?12:35
lxsliThe tooling is still there for DocBook12:35
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lxsliMaybe it's deprecated, I only poked my nose in to write about my feature12:35
markus_zI thought it was, so I didn't spent any time to make it work for DocBook.12:36
openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: verify flavors.inc  https://review.openstack.org/31413312:36
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edleafelxsli: ugh, you're right12:37
jdandrealxsli That's exactly what I showed them! :)12:38
jdandreaty12:38
mat128jdandrea: first to last in kilo at least12:38
gibilxsli: looking...12:39
jdandreamat128 *nodnod* and in the mitaka docs as well. (Wow, that would be scary if the order flipped, huh.)12:39
mat128jdandrea: yup :)12:40
lxslimostly a perf nightmare12:40
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lxsliresults should be identical12:41
jdandrealxsli, mat128: I'm trying to understand some behavior I'm seeing WRT ServerGroupAntiAffinityFilter (I think). ...12:41
mat128jdandrea: go ahead (rubber ducking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging)12:42
jdandrealxsli, mat128: I go to boot two VMs (via Heat), and I have a dummy filter at the end of the list. Both get scheduled to the same host (only they're really anti-affinity per the hints!). Then a THIRD schedule pass happens and the second VM's host is changed. I expected the available host list to already be different the first time.12:42
markus_zlxsli: That's the area where the line breaks get removed: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-doc-tools/tree/autogenerate_config_docs/autohelp.py#n46212:42
markus_zJFYI12:42
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jdandreamat128 LOL - yup12:43
mat128jdandrea: are you sure that second scheduler pass is for that second instance (Heat VM #2)?12:43
jdandreamat128 Does a Pikachu stapler count? :p12:43
mat128jdandrea: in this case, I am the rubber duck :)12:43
mat128jdandrea: but yeah, anything works :)12:43
jdandreamat128 Ahh. "See the duck. BE THE DUCK."12:44
lxslijdandrea: the scheduler might not 'know' the first instance landed before it places the 2nd12:45
jdandreamat128 What I see: First instance comes through, choices are hosts 1,2,3,4. Host is placed on 2. Second instance, choices expected to be 1,3,4, but they're still 1,2,3,4! Miraculously, host is placed on 2. Second instance comes through AGAIN, now the choices are 1,3,4.12:45
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lxslijdandrea: I don't know the SGAFilter but this sounds like a classic scheduler race12:45
openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: pci: Deprecate is_new from pci requests  https://review.openstack.org/31099012:46
openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: pci: Allow to update pci_requests in instance_extra  https://review.openstack.org/31202812:46
openstackgerritMoshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: pci: Move PCI devices and PCI requests into migration context  https://review.openstack.org/30712412:46
jdandrealxsli: *nod* that's what I'm trying to understand. How anti-affinity works in that case. I'd think it would catch it the first time (but I admit I could be ignorant about that). I'm thinking the scheduler filter for anti-affinity would have made things such that the next schedule attempt wouldn't include that host. Maybe not?12:46
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jdandrealxsli Yep. "Host candidates, start your engines."12:46
lxsliGenerally the scheduler doesn't know things until the compute node tells it12:47
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lxsliSo there's a lag between instance 1 being placed, the compute node launching it and it telling the scheduler12:47
lxslithere are a lot of plans in place to fix this12:47
jdandreamat128 It's true, folks walk in often and explain a problem, they solve it on their own, and I just smile: "Glad I could help." :)12:47
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Clean up deprecated CLI options  https://review.openstack.org/31779512:48
jdandrealxsli: *nodnod* appreciate that very much. That leads me to wonder about the reliability of ServerGroupAntiAffinityFilter at the moment. (It's ok if it isn't as reliable. It helps me understand what I need to do on my own end.)12:49
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jdandrealxsli: (and if there are bugs filed and plans to address, I'd love to help if I can)12:49
lxsliIt seems to have worked just fine12:49
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lxsliInstance 2 got placed incorrectly, it needed to reschedule, it did so - no problem12:50
lxsligibi: thanks :)12:50
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jdandrealxsli: Right. What surprised me is that it didn't place it properly the first time. It's likely a hangup I have in (wrongly) assuming how the scheduler works. "Well, server1 was placed on host1, server2 shouldn't be placed on host1, why place it twice?" But you're right, it got placed incorrectly, needed to reschedule, ta-dah.12:51
mat128jdandrea: maybe the antiaffinity filter works *after* and re-runs scheduling because you have been placed on the wrong host? (crazy idea...)12:51
lxslijdandrea: yeah that's the design at the moment. It makes more sense when you realise you might want multiple schedulers that can't communicate quickly with each other12:51
jdandreamat128 Interesting! Hadn't thought of that.12:51
jdandrealxsli Very true.12:51
jdandreaThat helps a lot!12:51
jdandreaty12:52
mat128jdandrea: reading lxsli's response and it's pretty much the same12:52
lxsli... not that that works very well atm but ...12:52
jdandrealxsli Fair.12:52
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jdandrealxsli But if that's how it works, then that's how it works. And it *does* figure it out in time.12:52
lxsliplans: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-scheduler12:53
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openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: Introduce ImageCacheLocalDir  https://review.openstack.org/27966912:54
* alex_xu reminders nova api meeting in 6 mins12:54
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lxslihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/280851 please12:59
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openstackgerritRoman Dobosz proposed openstack/nova-specs: FPGA resource use cases  https://review.openstack.org/31804713:02
jrollso this totally breaks upgrades for people configuring compute_driver=nova.virt.foo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309504/13:03
jroll(found this because mitaka devstack uses nova.virt.foo for ironic things)13:03
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openstackgerritPavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: [WIP]: nova-api-hypervisor-cpu-info change  https://review.openstack.org/30418013:04
jrollhow should we express that to users, add a release note with an upgrade: stanza? and for grenade, shall we backport the devstack thing to mitaka or do a from-mitaka thing in nova grenade?13:04
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jrollsdague: ^ you likely have opinions here13:05
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mriedemalaski: do you have a bp in launchpad for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290155/ ?13:16
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mriedemhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/policy-in-code13:17
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alaskimriedem: huh. I was sure there was one, but I don't see it now13:19
mriedemalaski: there is an oslo one https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo.policy/+spec/policy-in-code13:20
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alaskimriedem: ahh, that's what I'm remembering. I'll open a Nova one13:29
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openstackgerritBartek Å»urawski proposed openstack/nova: Fix issue with not removing rbd rescue disk  https://review.openstack.org/31808913:32
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EmilienMmriedem: hi! is there anything else I can do to land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316610/ but doing 'recheck' ?13:35
EmilienMI might have missed something about nova CI, and maybe some outage13:35
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mriedemEmilienM: a $2 bill sent to me might help13:37
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mriedemEmilienM: from what i see the failures are all hitting the keystone fernet token races13:38
mriedemi'm honestly just considering reverting that change at this point in devstack13:38
mriedemsince it's not getting fixed13:38
EmilienMmriedem: I can send you 2 francs, old french currency13:39
EmilienMwhich is actually very rare nowadays13:39
EmilienMok, we'll continue to 'recheck'13:39
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openstackgerritBartek Å»urawski proposed openstack/nova: Fix issue with not removing rbd rescue disk  https://review.openstack.org/31492813:43
dane-fichterif anyone has some spare time, these could use review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312210/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314222/13:44
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mriedemmdbooth: does ^ touch any of the stuff you're refactoring for the libvirt image backend?13:45
mriedemdiana_clarke: ^13:45
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* mdbooth looks13:45
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mdboothmriedem: That's extreme smell13:46
openstackgerritPawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Prevent block live migration with tunnelled flag  https://review.openstack.org/31070713:47
mriedemsmell?13:47
mdboothmriedem: code smell. It's yet another backend-specific if block in driver13:48
mriedemlike, mt dew extreme code red?!13:48
mdboothWe don't want those13:48
moshelelbeliveau: hi13:48
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mriedemmdbooth: ok, comments on review then :)13:48
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lbeliveaumoshele: hello13:48
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moshelelbeliveau: I created all the reize + cleanup patches depened13:49
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diana_clarkemriedem, mdbooth: And yes, my patch for Rbd does remove the "if it already exists, abort" logic that is currently preventing them from making a second rescue image. IIUC13:50
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lbeliveaumoshele: cool, I'll test them13:50
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lbeliveaumoshele: going to test cold migration tomorrow (today I'm stuck on product stuff)13:51
moshelelbeliveau: so you just need to take this one 31099013:51
moshelelbeliveau: did you try the resize?13:51
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lbeliveaumoshele: not yet :( I'll do all of this tomorrow, just need to wrap up some stuff on other activities13:52
moshelelbeliveau: ok13:53
lbeliveaumoshele: I'll share my results with you tomorrow13:53
diana_clarkemriedem, mdbooth: so I think this refactor might fix that case, but I would want to test it before making any promises.13:53
moshelelbeliveau: I am waiting for your result and if they are good, we can ask for nova cores to start review them13:54
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openstackgerritJulian proposed openstack/nova: WIP Remove DictCompat from Flavor  https://review.openstack.org/31811113:55
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/31695113:55
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openstackgerritSudipta Biswas proposed openstack/nova: Introduce a CONF flag to determine glance client version  https://review.openstack.org/31596313:56
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pkholkinmriedem: Hi Matt! I've updated my spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239663/, could you look that everything is as we discussed on summit14:14
openstackgerritBartek Å»urawski proposed openstack/nova: Fix issue with not removing rbd rescue disk  https://review.openstack.org/31492814:14
mriedempkholkin: sure14:14
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mriedemsdague: there is an ops meeting at 3pm EST today too, would be a good place to bring up the kill switch14:15
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mriedembut i can bring it up if you have a thread in the ops list before then14:16
pkholkin thanks!14:16
mriedembtw, i like that we can talk about kill switches casually now14:16
markus_z*g*14:17
sdaguemriedem: ok, I'm going to first update the spec, then I'll send the email14:17
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sdaguemriedem: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:64928414:19
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mriedemha14:19
openstackgerritHironori Shiina proposed openstack/nova: Separate ovs command to create vif port  https://review.openstack.org/31812814:20
mriedemshould put one of those in my utility room14:20
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kashyapmriedem: So, I was looking this afternoon about what extra patches Ubuntu 'Xenial' libvirt carries, to investigate that CPU model errors14:26
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kashyapSeems like nothing really crazy, looking at the list of patches - http://paste.openstack.org/show/497514/14:26
openstackgerritHironori Shiina proposed openstack/nova: Separate ovs command to create vif port  https://review.openstack.org/31812814:26
kashyapSpecifically, nothing related to live migration / CPU models.14:26
kashyap(That patch that's listed there - "dont-include-non-migrateable-features-in-host-model" is already upstream.)14:26
kashyapUnfortunately the libvirt debug logs didn't log anything specific from the CPU driver14:27
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mriedempkholkin: comment inline, it's mostly ready, just need to explicitly note that we aren't adding support for an admin user to list all tenant keypairs14:27
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mriedemkashyap: aren't the host capabiliites dumped in the n-cpu logs on startup?14:28
mriedemwould that help?14:28
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cfriesenThere's a patch (not mine) that's been up for a couple months that looks interesting, but it hasn't gotten a lot of review attention:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288933/14:29
pkholkinmriedem: ok, thanks!14:29
pkholkinwill look14:29
kashyapmriedem_meeting: Will investigate.  Taking a break for a few now.14:29
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openstackgerritRoman Dobosz proposed openstack/nova-specs: FPGA resource use cases  https://review.openstack.org/31804714:30
openstackgerritSergey Nikitin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Added Support of microverison 2.16  https://review.openstack.org/25998214:31
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openstackgerritSam Betts proposed openstack/nova: Eliminate resource tracker to host manager races  https://review.openstack.org/30834814:32
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raj_singhjohnthetubaguy: I was looking into file "https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/barbican.py" to improve help text, But seems like all the relevant code is moved to Castellan library and these cfg options are not used anymore. Should we just delete this file?14:33
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johnthetubaguyraj_singh: I think we still need to register the options if they live in nova.conf still14:34
edleaferaj_singh: we should probably mark them as deprecated, and remove them in Ocata14:35
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raj_singhjohnthetubaguy: What I meant is delete the file and not register these options. I saw a patch earlier which deleted all the files related to barbican https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309614/14:36
openstackgerritSergey Nikitin proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Added Support of microverison 2.26  https://review.openstack.org/25998214:36
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johnthetubaguyraj_singh: ah...14:37
raj_singhedleafe: That seems reasonable. Do we need to worry about improving help text on this file?14:37
raj_singhedleafe: Maybe just add new formatting14:37
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sdaguejohnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318046/ was the thing you asked me about when that patch originally landed14:38
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edleaferaj_singh: You would have to add information about why they are deprecated, in case anyone looks to use them.14:39
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edleaferaj_singh: but I wouldn't spend a whole lot of time on the help text if the code doesn't exist anymore :)14:39
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raj_singhedleafe: sounds good14:41
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johnthetubaguyraj_singh: I was thinking about this one: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/cache.py14:45
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johnthetubaguyraj_singh: yeah, we need a cycle where we support both configs I think (by using the alias stuff)14:50
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova-specs: Deprecate API Proxies  https://review.openstack.org/31220914:54
sdaguemriedem / johnthetubaguy / alex_xu ^^^14:54
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sdagueI think that merges in all that feedback14:54
raj_singhjohnthetubaguy: ok14:55
johnthetubaguyraj_singh: does this one make sense? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/cache.py14:55
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dansmithmdbooth: so on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270998/2014:56
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dansmithmdbooth: just FYI, what you've changed it to seems _less_ intuitive to me14:56
dansmithmdbooth: backend.exists() means to me that our connection to ceph or lvm or something exists, and not that the image/disk/file/whatever exists14:57
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mriedemsdague: alright, will go through it14:57
mdboothdansmith: Well the object which implements exists() is the 'Image'14:57
dansmithmdbooth: why not just change it to backend.disk_exists() like you describe? or maybe s/backend/disk/ ?14:57
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dansmithmdbooth: yeah, but the variable is backend14:58
mdboothAnd in this case Image == disk14:58
raj_singhjohnthetubaguy: So just register the options by importing castellan module?14:58
mdboothdansmith: rly? That's a poorly named variable.14:58
dansmithmdbooth: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270998/20/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py14:58
mdboothdansmith: Yeah, that's not a backend14:58
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mdboothIt's a disk14:59
mdboothotherwise known as an image14:59
dansmithmdbooth: can we s/backend/disk/ there then?14:59
dansmiththat would be a lot more readable I think14:59
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dansmithchanging the image class name later is okay, but..14:59
mdboothYup, can do. This is new code, btw, which I missed in review.14:59
mdboothBecause I don't like it14:59
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dansmithyeah14:59
eanderssonAnyone know if it's a bug that nova-compute does not send a compute.instance.delete.start event when a VM is deleted after a compute crash?14:59
mdboothBut whatever, I missed the boat15:00
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mdboothdansmith: Are you going to -1 with that comment, btw?15:00
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dansmithmdbooth: just did15:00
mdboothdansmith: Thanks.15:00
dansmithmdbooth: otherwise I think you have a stack of +Ws on the patches below that15:00
mdboothYeah, the gate wasn't being nice to me earlier.15:01
dansmithyeah, mriedem reverted the thing in devstack that was making keystone fail a lot15:01
mdboothThanks for the reviews on those, though, that's awesome.15:01
dansmithso soon that should get better15:01
dansmithyup15:01
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: pci: make sure device relationships are kept in memory  https://review.openstack.org/30185915:01
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: pci: Make sure PF is 'available' when last VF is freed  https://review.openstack.org/30301215:01
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: pci: related updates are done without DB lookups  https://review.openstack.org/30186015:01
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: pci: add safe-guard to __eq__ of PciDevice  https://review.openstack.org/31815915:01
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mdboothdansmith: Incidentally, I stuck a W-1 at the bottom of the stack of substantive patches, because they aren't ready to merge until the whole of that part of the series is in place.15:04
mriedemeandersson: it's probably just an omission15:04
mriedemnot intentionally15:04
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mdboothdansmith: However, I still think they're good to go if you want to look.15:04
mdboothJust not to merge.15:04
dansmithmdbooth: starting on the one above the one we just discussed, yeah/15:05
mdboothdiana_clarke has posted 3 of the backends already15:05
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mdboothThink the next bit will be ready next week some time, fingers crossed15:05
dansmithcool15:06
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: network: handle unauthorized exception from neutron  https://review.openstack.org/31201415:08
openstackgerritPavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova-specs: keypairs-pagination support  https://review.openstack.org/23966315:08
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pkholkinmriedem: sdague: thank you guys for review, I've added that note to the end of proposed change15:10
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mriedempkholkin: yup, i'm building the docs now on that one15:10
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mriedemi'm also seeing that we have errors in a number of specs but the docs build doesn't fail, which surprises me15:10
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pkholkinthat strange15:11
mriedemnot your spec, others15:12
pkholkinI undertand15:12
pkholkinas for me I like to generate my spec :)15:12
mriedemi actually thought this would make docs generation fail15:12
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova-specs/blob/master/setup.cfg#L2015:12
mriedembut that must not be used15:12
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova-specs/blob/master/tox.ini#L2415:13
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eanderssonmriedem: This looks intentional. notify is set to False on cleanup jobs.15:13
eanderssonSo my guess is that when a VM is destroyed, but the compute is down. The VM goes into a bad state (as it can't be confirmed deleted).15:14
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Make Aggregate metadata functions work with API db  https://review.openstack.org/29735015:14
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Block aggregate creation until main database empty  https://review.openstack.org/31523515:14
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Add data migration methods for Aggregate.  https://review.openstack.org/31478215:14
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openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Make Aggregate.save work with the API db  https://review.openstack.org/30546615:14
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Aggregate create and destroy work against API db  https://review.openstack.org/31478115:14
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Make Aggregate host operations work against API db  https://review.openstack.org/29659715:14
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Make AggregateList.get_ return API & cell db items  https://review.openstack.org/29606215:14
eanderssonThen when the compute comes back online, the perodic job picks it up as in a bad delete state, and removes the VM.15:14
pkholkinwhen I had style problems in specs ago my docs didn't pass15:15
pkholkinbut not now15:15
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doffmHow do I recheck only the xen ci for a change?15:16
pkholkinmriedem: thanks for merging !)15:16
BobBalldoffm: I believe the xen CI is disabled currently - is that right anthonyper?15:16
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anthonyperBobBall: No, it's back online.15:17
BobBallAh - awesome :)15:17
anthonyperdoffm: xen: recheck15:17
BobBalldoffm: in which case it's "xen: recheck" - as the CI should have told you in the message (hit toggle CI bottom left)15:18
doffmanthonyper: Thankyou. I'm dumb, must have missed what I was being told.15:18
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doffmToggle CI. Important.15:19
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johnthetubaguyraj_singh: well normally the module has some way for registering them with our CONF object, but yes15:19
johnthetubaguyraj_singh: I suspect we need to register some alternatives, lets me find an example15:19
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sdaguemriedem: email sent15:20
sdagueI'll see about showing up to the ops meeting today if I can15:21
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johnthetubaguyraj_singh: hmm, I can't find a good example, this is a messy example: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/mitaka/nova/cache_utils.py#L2715:22
eanderssonThis is a major issue for things like DNS that relies on these notifications.15:23
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edleafeQuestion that came up last night with some Chinese students: why is the name of a keypair limited to ASCII letters? (with digits, dashes and underscores)15:24
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edleafeIOW, what is "unsafe" about a keypair name containing Chinese characters?15:25
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raj_singhjohnthetubaguy: Thx, I think I got the idea now. Will ping you if I have more questions.15:26
doffmalaski: For the cell0 manage db command, should I implement fanning out to all cells now? Or just implement cell0 db sync and we can later change it when multi cell is supported?15:29
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alaskidoffm: cell0 db sync is good for now. my main point there was not to have the option name be cell0 specific15:30
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doffmalaski: Yeah, thats what I was thinking. Just change the command line argument so that it doesn't have to change again.15:31
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doffmDo you prefer '--local_cell' or '--single_cell'15:31
alaskilocal15:32
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Move notification objects to a separate package  https://review.openstack.org/30529415:37
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Move notification related code to separate package  https://review.openstack.org/30505815:37
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Do not register notification objects  https://review.openstack.org/30945415:37
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Transform generic instance action notifications  https://review.openstack.org/31365415:37
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lixiaoy11johnthetubaguy: Could you please have a look at this BP (Move DM crypt setup code to brick) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/dm-crypt-to-brick15:38
lixiaoy11johnthetubaguy: I am going to do it in Newton release. as discussed in Mitaka release, could you please approve it?15:39
johnthetubaguylixiaoy11: has that work been completed and released in os-brick now?15:39
lixiaoy11johnthetubaguy: the code is submitted and under review15:39
lixiaoy11johnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247372/15:40
johnthetubaguymriedem: what are we doing for re-approving specless blueprints that were previous approved, i.e. are you OK approving this one?15:40
johnthetubaguylixiaoy11: so this is the blueprint for the Nova work, do you have the nova patches up for review?15:40
openstackgerritPaul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: Permit Live Migration of Rescued Instances  https://review.openstack.org/30819815:40
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johnthetubaguylixiaoy11: ah, I remember now, we were worried about the upgrade of this, if we don't have priv sep being used15:42
lixiaoy11johnthetubaguy: the nova patch is not ready at this moment. once above patch is merged into os-brick, I can update nova part15:42
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lixiaoy11johnthetubaguy: sorry I don't understand the upgrade issue. as when upgrading to newton, at first requirement.txt is installed so that os-brick is upgraded, and then nova is installed, why has upgrade issue?15:44
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johnthetubaguylixiaoy11: it was a comment about the privsep/rootwrap issues, and those needing to be done in "lock step"15:45
markus_zmikal_: Could you run the abandon-script for old gerrit reviews? For example, there is one change which has a merge conflict for 5 months: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213433/15:45
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johnthetubaguyalthough it looks like that has been done now: https://github.com/openstack/os-brick/commit/dbf77fba1061cb4e93b3db5f8117d6ccc689f70215:46
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markus_zmikal_: The background is, that I have a script which excludes old bug reports from being recognized as "being stale" if there are open reviews for them.15:46
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/dm-crypt-to-brick that was actually approved?15:47
mriedemi thought danpb had issues with it15:47
johnthetubaguymriedem: it looks like it was approved at one point, but its hard to tell with launchpad15:47
johnthetubaguyah, right, I remember now, QEMU vs external encryption stuff15:47
johnthetubaguyi.e. we are doing it wrong, don't let other folks copy that15:48
mriedem"Daniel Berrange  Nov 20 12:11 PM   Patch Set 4:On a somewhat more general point, I think it would be highly desirable if we can have an architecture where cinder *never* has to encrypt/decrypt data. ie only the compute node should ever have access to the decrypted, since a core aim of volume encryption is to provide against a compromised storage service. If we let cinder encrypt/decrypt volumes we've weakened that security isolation."15:48
mriedemyes15:48
johnthetubaguybut I thought the issue was the other side didn't have QEMU15:48
mriedemso first, it doesn't really make sense as a nova spec, it's an os-brick change for cinder, i think15:48
mriedembut if it's in os-brick, it would be available to nova15:48
johnthetubaguyI think they want the nova side to be approved15:48
mriedemand i think they expected to eventually remove that code from nova and use it from os-brick15:48
johnthetubaguybefore merging the os-brick cut and paste15:48
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mriedembut danpb had issues with that15:49
johnthetubaguylyarwood_ I think had some comments on that patch15:49
johnthetubaguythe problem is, cinder creates volumes from images in their API15:49
johnthetubaguyanyways, feels like we need more discussion15:50
johnthetubaguymaybe a spec is the best way to have that debate?15:50
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mriedemjohnthetubaguy: maybe. i just -1ed the change with notes15:51
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johnthetubaguymriedem: cool, I added some follow up notes15:52
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johnthetubaguylixiaoy11: it seems like we don't have agreement on the direction, so we shouldn't approve the blueprint yet15:53
lixiaoy11johnthetubaguy: mriedem: so do I need to create a spec for discussion? or just discuss it under the os-brick patch?15:53
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johnthetubaguywe can try use the os-brick patch for now, I guess?15:53
Guest78709Hi guys, this is regarding VM DNS resolution. We have DNS resolution working with regards to connectivity and DHCP hosts file. However the VM still comes up with it's hostname set with .openstacklocal instead of the domain set in neutron.15:54
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Guest78709We are running liberty. Is there some other nova chnge I need to pull in for this, or is there some nova side configuration to change for dns_domain as well?15:54
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add online migration to move keypairs from main to API database  https://review.openstack.org/31366415:55
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lixiaoy11johnthetubaguy: thank you. And let me talk to Daniel later15:55
johnthetubaguyGuest78709: we did merge a feature for that in mitaka: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/mitaka/implemented/internal-dns-resolution.html15:56
Guest78709yea, i am able to set the dns_name and dns_assignment on the port15:57
Guest78709as for as connectivity, pinging "hostname.dns_domain.com" works15:57
Guest78709it's on the VM itself, hostname -f shows "hostname.openstacklocal"15:57
mriedemsdague: comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312209/15:57
dansmithGuest78709: sounds like this is a usage question and thus the channel topic applies15:58
mriedemalso,15:59
mriedemsaid they were running liberty, john pointed out the nova support landed in mitaka15:59
mriedemi'm not sure if that whole flow is documented in the networking guide yet or not, but that would be on the neutron team to document it16:00
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auggygood morning!16:03
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mriedemauggy: o/16:05
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siva_krishnanHi All! Have question on ibvirt error codes. If we are attaching a volume that already existed it would throw up an error saying"Device is busy", what would be the possible equivalent error code from libvirt for the above scenario . I just found VIR_ERR_RESOURCE_BUSY  which might be closer match. Can someone who has worked on libvirt help me out with this ?16:16
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: pci: make sure device relationships are kept in memory  https://review.openstack.org/30185916:43
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: pci: Make sure PF is 'available' when last VF is freed  https://review.openstack.org/30301216:43
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova: pci: related updates are done without DB lookups  https://review.openstack.org/30186016:43
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Guest78709dansmith: Not sure this is a usage issue. I have nova changes for port DNS from : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271578/6/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py16:45
Guest78709but i think this might be bug in nova16:45
Guest78709VM should get its hostname set correctly via DHCP server16:46
Guest78709but i noticed we have flat_injected=True16:46
Guest78709This means Nova goes and applies network config, right?16:46
Guest78709somehow, Nova is getting a .openstacklocal instead of the DNS domain - which neutron and the DHCP agent have correctly16:47
Guest78709I am going to try in a bit with flat_injected=False16:47
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Do not register notification objects  https://review.openstack.org/30945416:47
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Transform generic instance action notifications  https://review.openstack.org/31365416:47
Guest78709if that fixes my issue then this would be a bug w/ Nova not setting DNS domain correctly when flat_injected=true16:47
dansmithGuest78709: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/network.py#L70-L7116:49
gibirlrossit: I tried to implement the register_notification decorator based on the yesterday discussion. Could you check it please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309454/16:49
dansmithI suspect you're experiencing the lack of the thing johnthetubaguy pointed out was added in mitaka, as was said earlier16:50
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gibijaypipes: a friendly reminder to check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286675/ (versioned notification transformation spec) :)16:51
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Guest78709i dont see that network file in liberty...?16:52
Guest78709or a /blob directory16:53
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Guest78709I do remember network behavior changing upon setting flat_injected...16:53
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sfinucanjaypipes: RE: https://review.openstack.org/316155, surely I shouldn't mix style changes with functional changes?16:53
sfinucan...or maybe that rule doesn't apply to docs?16:53
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Guest78709dansmith, i do have most of the diffs miguel committed for nova dns fix16:54
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jaypipesgibi: done!16:58
jaypipessfinucan: for specs, yeah, I think it's better to just push a rev with those typo fixes and wrapwidth changes.16:59
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openstackgerritHahyun proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add direct download feature for rbd glance backend  https://review.openstack.org/30848117:03
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winston-d_esnyder: hey :)17:05
esnyder@sdague I was wondering if you might have the time to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310050/ again and see if your concerns are adequately addressed?17:05
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esnyder@sdague and thanks for your comments so far, much appreciated!17:06
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esnyderhi winston-d:)17:06
Guest78709dansmith: I do see our liberty code base making use of flat_injected. Both in Nova's neutronv2 API,17:06
Guest78709and here, which is wher i think it injects the hostname and network/IP config: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/liberty/nova/virt/netutils.py17:07
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openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Add test fixture for cell0.  https://review.openstack.org/30186417:17
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Map instances to cell0 on failed schedule  https://review.openstack.org/26782717:17
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Manage db sync command for cell0  https://review.openstack.org/27488517:17
mriedemmdbooth: fyi, ci testing with raw image backend was fine https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317732/17:18
mriedemsdague: dansmith: do either of you see a problem with changing the postgres job to use the raw image backend for libvirt?17:19
mriedemso we can get a mix of configs17:19
dansmithGuest78709: you mean because of this? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py#L164017:19
dansmithGuest78709: that's copy/paste stuff, and doesn't change any behavior that I know of17:20
dansmithmriedem: from qcow you mean?17:20
mriedemdansmith: yeah17:20
mriedemsince every other job is using qcow by default17:20
mriedemceph uses rbd17:20
mriedemwe have an lvm job in experimental17:20
dansmithmriedem: mdbooth's patches deprecate raw in favor of flat, because raw is a misnomer, but yes, I think making one of the jobs use *flat* would be good :)17:21
mriedemgate-tempest-dsvm-full and the postgres job both run nova-network, postgres has some other wrinkles like the metadata service17:21
mriedemyeah, ok17:21
mriedemi figure we load up the postgres job with the edge configs17:21
Guest78709it is setting flat_injected into the network property17:21
Guest78709        network = network_model.Network( 1626            id=port['network_id'], 1627            bridge=bridge, 1628            injected=CONF.flat_injected, 1629            label=network_name, 1630            tenant_id=tenant_id 1631            )17:21
dansmithGuest78709: I know17:22
Guest78709network['injected']17:22
Guest78709whcih is later used in the virt/netutils.py17:22
Guest78709        if not network.get_meta('injected'):             continue17:22
Guest78709I do indeed remember changing flat_injected before and seeing behavior change. I forget whether this was for non-DHCP networks17:23
Guest78709or provider networks with extrenal DHCP server17:23
Guest78709there was some reason we had to change it to True17:23
mriedemheh, we have use_cow_images=true and force_raw_images=true in our config17:23
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mriedemas defaults17:23
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dansmithedleafe: you added the conf/network flat_injected text that says it's n-net-only, as best I can tell... comments?17:25
dansmithGuest78709: do you think you could set a real nick? it's hard to converse when there are several other Guest* nicks in here17:26
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Guest78709Yup, looking back We needed to set it to true in order for Nova to inject static IP config for non-DHCP enabled networks. else nothing was going on the VM and configuring the neutron-assigned fixed IP17:26
mriedemmdbooth: actually, looking at the code, doesn't the 'flat' type now default to raw instead of qcow2 because force_raw_images defaults to true?17:26
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Guest78709sorry :)17:26
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xagentok17:27
xagentsry about that17:27
edleafedansmith: hmmm... don't remember where I read that, but a quick grep shows it being used in nova/network/neutronv2/api.py too17:27
dansmithedleafe: it is, and ISTR that was just a "make the model happy" usage, but it is read somewhere else that is network driver agnostic17:28
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mriedemmdbooth: err no i guess it still defaults to qcow2 because: 'default': Qcow2 if use_cow else Flat17:28
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winston-d_mriedem: hi, would you please give us some feedback on FS host attach spec here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310050/?17:28
mriedemand use_cow_images defaults to true17:28
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edleafedansmith: I was under the impression that everything that was in nova/network/manager.py was nova-net specific17:29
edleafedansmith: but it doesn't appear that's correct17:30
dansmithedleafe: well, it was until it wasn't :).. maybe that's the reason, because of where it came from?17:30
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dansmithedleafe: the name "flat_injected" probably refers to nova-net-isms anyway, so if we fix the text we should change the name probably17:30
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dansmithto something like "evilishly inject network stuff"17:31
edleafedansmith: I like it :)17:31
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openstackgerritPaul Carlton proposed openstack/nova: Permit Live Migration of Rescued Instances  https://review.openstack.org/30819817:32
dansmithedleafe: also probably means that the "services that use this" wasn't right even to start with, as it's the compute node actually caring about that field I think17:32
openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova: Fall back to raw config drive if not found in rbd  https://review.openstack.org/31778517:33
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openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova-specs: CellsV2 - Move quota tables to the API db  https://review.openstack.org/29297317:35
edleafedansmith: to some degree, yes, but the idea was to illustrate to an operator which services would be affected when they changed an option17:35
dansmithedleafe: right, but it's the compute node for that one, as best I can tell17:35
edleafedansmith: all of those were supposed to be ignored if 'use_neutron' was true17:36
openstackgerritJiri Suchomel proposed openstack/nova: Find out the instance availability zone before creating volume.  https://review.openstack.org/22511917:36
dansmithedleafe: right, but alas, that seems incorrect17:36
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edleafedansmith: you want to create a bug and assign it to me?17:37
dansmithedleafe: I guess I can, I was thinking just a heads-up-followed-by-quick-patch17:38
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edleafedansmith: ah, ok. I never know the right procedure for this stuff17:39
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edleafeI should be able to get to it later today17:39
xagentNot sure I follow this convo consensus - are you saying it was expected that flat_injected has no effect for neutron?17:39
xagentbut that is not the case and you are going to change it?17:39
dansmithxagent: I'm just saying it looks like it's in the neutron path and thus the doc strings should be corrected17:40
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dansmithxagent: nothing related to whatever your problem seems to be17:40
xagentah ok17:40
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edleafexagent: yeah, it's just that they guy who wrote those doc strings was ignorant :)17:41
xagentThat virt/netutils.py code I pointed out - can you or someone confirm if that is indeed the place Nova configures network info on the VM, when flat_injected is True?17:41
xagentI do see it sets the hostname on VM there in /etc/hostname17:41
xagentso i suspect my problem may be somewhere in there, it does not get dns_domain correctly from neutron or dhcp server17:42
dansmithedleafe: maybe say it was improperly placed, or improperly overtaken by neutron code in the first place :)17:42
xagentassuming that is codepath for flat injected17:42
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sdaguemriedem: I'm a little concerned that if we procedural block these agreed to parts of the nova-spec, we're going to be deep into m3 before we get any of this code in shape - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315963/17:43
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sdagueI'd rather start moving in stuff we're ok with on the glance side while that spec lands in parallel, given it's priority17:44
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mriedemsdague: it doesn't prevent them from building that series up17:45
mriedemand we expect a new ci job hitting the top level change with glance v1 disabled anyway17:45
mriedemso we have a ways to go17:45
sdagueok, I guess I was happy to run that in parallel as it would be behind a feature flag17:46
sdaguebecause this seems to be why it ends up in milestone 3, then kicked into the next release17:46
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stewie925hey all, I was able to install devstack cell env (enable_service n-cell) successfully last night17:47
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mriedemsdague: meh, a procedural block on the bottom change in an unapproved blueprint shouldn't stop WIP patches to build up the series, it certainly hasn't stopped me https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/get-me-a-network17:49
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stewie925however, when I tried to create multiple instances (nova boot --flavor <> --image <> --nic net-id=<> --max-count 2  instance-name ) I got the following error:17:49
stewie925"Unable to find a host for instance instance-name"17:49
sdaguemriedem: ok17:50
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sdaguemriedem: though it's definitely a lot less motivating to work on code that can't land, and can only merge conflict and need rebasing17:50
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mriedemyeah i get that,17:51
mriedembut the spec should be close17:51
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sdagueok17:55
sdagueso http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/#bare-metal-nodes-os-baremetal-nodes is just totally wrong then17:55
sdague?17:55
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sdagueyeh, that's just properly a mess, sorry, I based my spec out of assuming that api was right in docs17:57
openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: Avoid volume disconnect calls during remote rebuilds  https://review.openstack.org/31826617:57
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mriedemsdague: yeah i figured17:59
mriedemi don't hold it against you :)18:00
sdagueok, I'll fix the docs first, then I'll redo the spec18:00
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mriedemcool18:00
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mriedemhey, the docs need to be fixed anyway for the other effort, so win-win!18:00
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sdaguethe limits comment was a good one, I think we should do that at the same time18:00
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Deprecate --tenant option from flavor-access-list  https://review.openstack.org/31696918:10
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stewie925hello guys - I have stopped and then restarted nova-api in devstack using the 'screen -dr'18:33
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stewie925but I seem to not be able to detach from the screen (supposedly by clicking ctrl-d)18:35
dansmithstewie925: ctrl-a d18:36
stewie925ohh thanks dansmith - it finally worked18:37
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stewie925I have a follow-up question if you dont mind18:38
dansmithcdent: jaypipes: inventory changeup patches finally ready to be verbally assaulted by you: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315681/18:38
dansmithstewie925: you need not ask to ask :)18:39
stewie925so I set up a noval cell env by re-running stack.sh with enable_service n-cell in local conf18:39
stewie925oh heh...18:39
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mriedemdoffm: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/mitaka/implemented/soft-affinity-for-server-group.html ?18:41
stewie925so after that I had to update the nova.conf  to enable cell with name and celltype=api,  after which I restarted the n-api using the 'screen -dr'18:41
doffmhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/weights/affinity.py18:41
doffmmriedem: ^18:41
dansmithstewie925: you should probably be tweaking all config as part of devstack config files and re-running the whole thing when you change, but alaski or melwitt are the two people on the planet that have ever gotten a cells devstack working locally18:42
* dansmith takes a little hyperbolic license with his statements18:42
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alaskidansmith knows what he is talking about, don't let him fool you18:43
alaskistewie925: you should not need to tweak the nova.conf with enable_service n-cell18:43
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alaskidevstack will set the config properly for you18:44
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stewie925oh is that so18:45
alaskibut you should probably ./unstack.sh && ./stack.sh after setting enable_service n-cell to ensure everything is setup right18:45
stewie925ahhh18:45
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melwitthm, I don't know about converting a non-cells devstack into a cells devstack. haven't done that before18:46
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stewie925oh hey melwith - actually I did create a new VM and reinstall devstack, then I added the enable_service n-cell before I ran stack.sh18:47
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melwittoh, good. it should have set up your nova.conf then, you aren't supposed to have to make any changes to it18:48
stewie925so the question is - should I see nova.conf automatically updated with  the cell enable entries (name and celltype=api) ?18:48
melwittwell, nova.conf won't exist until you run stack.sh. after stack.sh runs you should find /etc/nova/nova.conf and /etc/nova/nova-cells.conf that are already configured correctly18:50
stewie925ohhh  a separate nova-cells.conf18:50
melwittyeah but the nova-cells.conf is for the child cell18:50
stewie925yes!!! I se it18:51
stewie925see it18:51
stewie925thanks so much again melwitt and alaski18:51
jrollso this totally breaks upgrades for people configuring compute_driver=nova.virt.foo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309504/ (found this because mitaka devstack uses nova.virt.foo for ironic things)18:52
jrollhow should we express that to users, add a release note with an upgrade: stanza? and for grenade, shall we backport the devstack thing to mitaka or do a from-mitaka thing in nova grenade?18:52
stewie925after this I am trying to "re-create" the bug #1533380" issue - I hope I dont have to do any other setup18:52
openstackbug 1533380 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Creating multiple instances with a single request when using cells creates wrong instance names" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1533380 - Assigned to STEW TY (stewie925)18:52
* jroll apologizes for the interjection18:52
stewie925no prob jroll18:53
jrolldansmith: sdague: ^ y'all have opinions on that?18:53
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dansmithjroll: the config docs didn't list nova.virt.foo as a valid option and haven't for quite some time18:53
melwittstewie925: you shouldn't have to do any other setup. after you set 'enable_service n-cell' in the local.conf and run stack.sh, you should be able to boot an instance. if that's not working, something is wrong18:53
dansmithjroll: so not sure that we need to signal it at this point, but I thought we ended up with a warning note18:54
jrolldansmith: unfortunately our install guide did, no clue why18:54
jrollthere's an 'other' note18:54
stewie925thank you melwitt - I'll give it a shot - again many thanks to your guidance18:54
melwittstewie925: you can look for errors in the logs under /opt/stack/logs/* hopefully. if you don't have logs (configured through local.conf) then you can attach to the screen sessions and look for errors in those18:54
jrolldansmith: http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/nova/unreleased.html#other-notes not very descriptive18:54
dansmithjroll: ah, yep, that18:54
dansmithjroll: we can augment it if you want18:55
* stewie925 bows to melwith in appreciation18:55
jrolldansmith: yeah, that'd be cool, I can put something up18:55
dansmithjroll: okay18:55
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jrolldansmith: as for upgrades testing, put something in grenade or just backport the devstack fix for that to mitaka you think?18:55
melwittstewie925: make sure n-cpu is running, namely. use 'nova-manage service list' to check if all services are reporting good state18:55
dansmithjroll: what devstack fix was there?18:55
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Skip network allocation if 'none' is requested  https://review.openstack.org/30963818:56
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: nova-net: handle 'auto' network request in allocate_for_instance  https://review.openstack.org/29790618:56
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Skip network validation if explicitly requesting no networks  https://review.openstack.org/30960218:56
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: neutron: handle 'auto' network request in allocate_for_instance  https://review.openstack.org/31627518:56
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add helpers to NetworkRequest(List) objects for auto/none cases  https://review.openstack.org/29787118:56
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Add REST API support for get me a network  https://review.openstack.org/31639818:56
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: neutron: validate auto-allocate is available  https://review.openstack.org/30957418:56
dansmithjroll: whether to patch something up in grenade or fix old devstack is probably a gooder question for sdague18:56
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jrolldansmith: https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/commit/e3a04dd857d8e6f8afc83a20673fedd79936d19b18:56
dansmithjroll: ah18:57
dansmithjroll: I dunno, I'd backport that I think, but I'm not the expert in those kinds of situations18:57
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Add test fixture for cell0.  https://review.openstack.org/30186418:57
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Map instances to cell0 on failed schedule  https://review.openstack.org/26782718:57
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Manage db sync command for cell0  https://review.openstack.org/27488518:57
mriedemrlrossit: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/etc/nova/api-paste.ini#L3418:57
mriedemusing the v21 auth pipeline18:57
jrolldansmith: word. thanks18:57
sdaguejroll: yeh, I think a backport is fine18:57
jaypipesdansmith: will get to those on the plane (leaving for airport now...)18:57
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mriedemrlrossit: so that's super new as of dropping v218:58
mriedemrlrossit: in mitaka it would be using v2 policy https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/mitaka/etc/nova/api-paste.ini#L3918:58
jrollsdague: thanks18:58
stewie925melwitt: it seems like 'nova-manage service list' doesnt work  - so I used 'nova service-list' and it worked18:58
sdaguejroll: if it's something I need to approve, just let me know18:59
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stewie925and yes, all nova services are up  :)18:59
jrollsdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318027/ I'll have vasyl un-wip that18:59
mriedemstewie925: nova-manage hits the db directly18:59
mriedemwhich for cells probably doesn't work in this case b/c there are 2 dbs18:59
mriedemnova service-list would hit the rest api18:59
mriedemwhich knows what to do19:00
stewie925yeah mriedem - running "nova-manage service list" gives the following error -19:01
stewie925nova-manage: error: argument category: invalid choice: 'service' (choose from 'version', 'bash-completion', 'shell', 'logs', 'cell_v2', 'db', 'vm', 'agent', 'host', 'floating', 'vpn', 'api_db', 'project', 'account', 'network', 'cell', 'fixed')19:01
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openstackgerritJim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/nova: Augment release note for import_object_ns removal  https://review.openstack.org/31828919:03
jrolldansmith: there's your relnote19:03
dansmithjroll: you mean *your* relnote :)19:04
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jroll'our'19:04
dansmithjroll: since it's our release note, can I tweak the verbiage to make myself feel better? :)19:04
jrolldansmith: totes19:04
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melwittstewie925, mriedem: ah, okay19:06
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openstackgerritPushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Config Options: Improve help text for Ipv6 options  https://review.openstack.org/31829119:06
melwittactually I think maybe that command was removed. I've got an old liberty devstack going right now so I have old stuff19:07
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Augment release note for import_object_ns removal  https://review.openstack.org/31828919:07
dansmithjroll: updated with new ass-covering words19:08
dansmithjroll: aka, "Now with more ass coverage"19:08
jrollsomething something CYAaaS19:08
jrollthanks19:08
stewie925thanks, again I am learning so much19:08
dansmithjroll: yeah, that :)19:08
stewie925the online docs look obsolete19:09
stewie925third-party, I mean19:09
melwittstewie925: which docs? oh. if they are our docs then we should update them19:10
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: complete verification of baremetal api  https://review.openstack.org/31829519:13
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melwittmriedem: I was reading this ML message and I looked at the review. it appears the patch just needs some more work, is that right? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/095170.html19:16
mriedemmelwitt: you know you don't have to work on all things ceph19:17
openstackgerritPushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Config Options: Improve help text for debugger  https://review.openstack.org/31182219:17
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mriedemmelwitt: some people had some issues with the change, i haven't read the ML thread yet19:18
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mriedempart of the problem was refreshing the connection info every time we touch the instance19:18
mriedemwell, i guess it's been scoped to start and reboot19:19
mriedemmelwitt: i know they suggested passing a value on the reboot API to force a refresh of the connection info,19:22
mriedembut that's something the user shouldn't have to know to do19:22
mriedemit leaks info out of the api about what's configured in the cloud19:22
sdagueI like how "host" in https://review.openstack.org/318295 is always the string "IRONIC MANAGED"19:22
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melwittmriedem: okay, thanks. that helps. I wasn't clear from reading the comments whether the proposed patch just needed some tweaks to it or if a totally different approach was required19:24
mriedemsdague: heh, yeah. IRONIC SMASH!19:24
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openstackgerritSarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: [WIP]: Improve help text for barbican options Added format to add more details. Deprecating barbican options as these are moved to Castellan library  https://review.openstack.org/31768419:26
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mriedemmelwitt: i replied to the thread19:30
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mriedemmelwitt: at one point in that patch i was wondering if we could use nova-manage to do something about this, but that won't help I don't think because we have to get to the compute host to call out to cinder to refresh the connection19:30
esnydersdague: do you have time to give the fs-attach-detach spec review another look (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310050/) and let me know if your concerns are addressed by the latest update? (i don't mean to pester you, just hoping to get this done for newton)19:30
sdagueesnyder: I'll stick it on my stack and try to look at it tomorrow19:31
mriedemmelwitt: and we get the volume connector to refresh the connection info from the virt driver19:31
mriedemanother reason why nova-manage wouldn't work19:31
mriedemperiodic task won't work19:31
esnydersdague: thanks!19:33
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova-specs: Move instance group tables to the API database  https://review.openstack.org/31830419:33
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melwittmriedem: hm. do you happen to know how refreshing of info works with neutron? I thought there was periodic refreshing of network info or something19:34
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mriedemmelwitt: there is19:36
mriedemheal_instance_info_cache19:36
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mriedemperiodic task, but it's a queue19:36
mriedemso it runs the refresh on one instance per pass in the periodic task19:37
mriedemmelwitt: we could do something like that i suppose19:37
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L554919:37
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melwittmriedem: ah, right. thanks for refreshing my memory. yeah, I was thinking this sounds like a similar issue19:38
mriedemruns once a minute by default https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/compute.py#L19319:38
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mriedemso the downside is if you have an instance that hits this, it doesn't get fixed until that task runs on your instance...19:38
mriedembut maybe that's ok19:38
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mriedemmelwitt: you want to propose that to the ML thread?19:38
mriedemmelwitt: btw, gold star for thinking of this19:39
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melwittmriedem: yeah, it's not perfect. but I guess the neutron thing isn't either and somehow that works (or I'm ignorant of how it's okay in that case and not for volume). I'll reply on the thread19:39
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openstackgerritSujitha proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Improve help text for floating ips options.  https://review.openstack.org/31830919:40
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openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Verify requested_destination in the scheduler  https://review.openstack.org/31450919:46
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: WIP: API changes for verifying the scheduler when migrating  https://review.openstack.org/31557219:46
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Resize API operation passing down original RequestSpec  https://review.openstack.org/31200919:46
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Add requested_destination field to RequestSpec  https://review.openstack.org/31275719:46
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova-specs: Deprecate API Proxies  https://review.openstack.org/31220919:46
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mriedemsdague: some easy tweaks needed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318295/19:47
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sdagueesnyder: ok, I have a few minutes for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310050/19:49
sdagueI'm still kind of confused, you imply that libvirt currently knows how to manage an nfs ganesha proxy?19:49
mriedemmelwitt: we could have an admin api for force refreshing a bdm connection info for a given instance...but...19:49
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sdaguemriedem: so, the default does19:50
sdaguebut look at all the examples19:51
sdagueoh, ffs, they just over mocked19:51
mriedemdefault does what?19:51
sdaguehttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/cdfbb9a668fdcf289ffdfa5252d102e9d3e2ec35/nova/tests/functional/api_sample_tests/test_baremetal_nodes.py#L2719:52
sdagueso it's all mockity mocking the ironic responses19:52
sdaguejroll: do you know how that type would actually come back from the ironic client in a for real situation?19:52
mriedemcdent probably mocked that all up, he loves that mock stuff19:53
cdenttotes19:53
* _gryf wonders how cdent is so responsive19:53
cdent_gryf: just luck19:54
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_gryfcdent, uhm :)19:54
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mriedemsdague: they are strings in the ironic api schema http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/webapi/v1.html#Node19:56
esnydersdague: sorry, wasn't trying to imply that libvirt currently knows how to manage nfs ganesha, just that some implementation of the api that wants to export nfs to guests over vsock could be done inside libvirt, not directly in nova code19:56
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sdaguemriedem: ok, so, then I'm right?19:57
mriedemsdague: i guess, the code is busted though19:57
sdagueyep19:57
mriedemcan we change that as a bug?19:57
sdaguewhy19:57
sdagueI don't want to fix this19:58
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sdagueI just want no one to ever use it again19:58
mriedemlet's return a string19:58
mriedem'f u'19:58
sdagueI'm good with that19:58
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sdagueesnyder: ok, so nova-compute manages libvirt19:59
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sdagueesnyder: basically I feel like this spec complete hand waves the complexity of other host setup that is going to need to be there on the computes for this to work20:00
sdaguethat if it isn't, all of a sudden part of the API stops working20:00
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jrollsdague: sure, sec20:01
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jrollsdague: http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/baremetal/#nodes-nodes20:02
jrolloh, from the client20:03
sdagueyeh20:03
mriedemmdbooth: not sure we need a docs bug for the raw->flat thing https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/158325320:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1583253 in OpenStack Compute (nova) " Rename Raw backend to Flat" [Undecided,New]20:04
jrollsdague: guess that isn't well documented, but that looks right (though usually has more attributes)20:04
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mriedemthe config options docs get generated for us20:05
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sdaguejroll: it's weird to me that this is strings when it's ints?20:05
sdagueis that just because of wsme limitations?20:05
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jrollsdague: probably, don't recall off the top of my head20:06
jrollit's definitely some artifact of being a json blob in the db20:06
mriedemi guess we could update http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/config-reference/compute/hypervisor-kvm.html#configure-compute-backing-storage20:06
sdaguejroll: ah20:07
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esnydersdague: i see. are you hoping to see something like how manila handles backends, something like the spec calling out driver backends in nova tree?20:07
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esnyderi'm not sure how that addresses the "but you need extra software on the hypervisor nodes" i guess; just pushed it back a level to saying "in order for backend X to work, you need services Y & Z on nodes"20:08
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sdagueesnyder: if you need extra software on the hypervisor nodes it's not a good candidate for our API, at least not until we have a capabilities story in a couple of cycles20:09
samueldmqsdague: available for a quick discussin on newton api-docs20:10
jrollsdague: looks like it's ints today, at least in devstack: https://gist.github.com/jimrollenhagen/f5670d4635051b79778576095e0a01b820:10
sdaguesamueldmq: not at the moment20:10
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samueldmqsdague: in the meeting last week stevemar asked for volunteers and I raised my hand20:10
sdaguesamueldmq: otp, give me a few20:10
samueldmqsdague: sure, whenever you can; just ping me20:10
esnydersdague: well, there is at least one combination (virtfs/9p) that doesn't require any other software; if spec restricts itself to that config for now, would that be more appropriate?20:11
sdagueI thought a lot of people objected to that backend20:11
sdaguethat was at least my feel from the room20:11
esnydera lot of people do, but it would at least be *a* backend that we could play with now, while waiting for other stuff to land20:12
esnyderi confess that i don't really understand the difference between existing nova code that relies on, say, librbd to handle volume attaches, and new code that would rely on nfs-ganesha to handle share attaches20:13
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sdaguebecause nfs-ganesha is a service which can crash20:14
sdagueon the host20:14
sdaguethen *shrug*20:14
esnyderhmm20:14
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sdagueI guess I don't understand why if you have tenant networking you wouldn't just build a flow from your Filer to your guests20:15
sdaguewhich seems like the highest performance path20:16
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esnyderone reason is the scale and complexity of that, if we have 100s of osd nodes in our ceph cluster, then we have to wire up every osd node to all vms with a share mounted. and keep in sync when new nodes get added/removed20:17
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mriedemccarmack: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/158323520:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1583235 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "changes in an instance's description are not dynamically reflected" [Undecided,Incomplete]20:18
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esnyderbut other reason is to support guest vms which don't have appropriate clients, or client version skew issues20:18
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/31695120:26
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sdagueesnyder: could you detail that issue above in the spec. The use case is super generic. And there really needs to be a detailed rebuttal about why managing flows for the projects isn't viable. Honestly, the more details about the very particular problem the better (diagrams are good as well)20:28
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esnyderthanks, i'll work on bringing that front and center. currently it is there (just maybe kinda buried) in the "alternatives" section20:29
sdaguesamueldmq: ok, off the phone now20:29
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samueldmqsdague: maybe #openstack-doc ?20:31
sdaguesamueldmq: how about #dev?20:31
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sdagueI'm not on #doc20:31
samueldmqsdague: sure20:31
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stewie925sorry melwitt I went to lunch just got back20:37
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mriedemdansmith: new pain, see my comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283206/15/specs/newton/approved/get-me-a-network.rst@13520:40
mriedemdansmith: get me a network API might need to wait for ocata20:40
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dansmithmriedem: ugh, yeah.. I forget that exposure of the max supported microversion is  the actual trigger20:41
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dansmithwe could cap our microversion based on service version, but I think that's probably not likely to be pipular20:42
mriedemyou know,20:42
mriedemwell,20:42
mriedemi was going to say, alternatively, if you request 'auto' and the computes aren't all at newton, we could change auto->None in the request and that will make it work the same as it does today20:43
mriedemmitaka computes can handle NetworkRequest.network_id=None20:43
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dansmithhmm, yeah, we could just do that in compute rpcapi based on the pin20:44
openstackgerritMark Doffman proposed openstack/nova: Cleanup rescue images on unrescue when using RBD.  https://review.openstack.org/24177720:45
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mriedemi was thinking it would need to have to happen before the compute rpcapi, because with the way i wrote this, the compute API skips calling network_api.validate_networks before casting off for scheduling,20:46
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Create Instance from BuildRequest if not in a cell  https://review.openstack.org/26392720:46
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/309602/20:47
dansmithokay, well, same difference, it's just potentially easier in compute rpcapi, but not a big deal20:47
mriedemi could move that check into the network api code too, if it gets a request of 'none' we just return20:47
mriedemi did it here because it's one place, for both neutron and nova-net20:47
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dansmithokay20:47
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mriedemwhy would it be easier to check the service version in the compute rpcapi?20:49
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: complete verification of baremetal api  https://review.openstack.org/31829520:49
mriedemright now i'm doing the compute service check here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316398/4/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py@56420:49
dansmithmriedem: well, we'd do it based on compute rpc pin, which would mean it works even if manually set, and we calculate that once per startup based on the version, so it would be efficient (just checking a var) instead of another lookup20:50
dansmithmriedem: but you can cache it yourself anyway of course, or use the service object cache thing20:50
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sdaguemriedem: ok, so the samples need to be updated if we want to fix the api-ref for baremetal. But I'm end of day soon, so I was just going to leave it in the broken state, because people should never call this API anyway20:51
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: WIP: API change for verifying the scheduler when evacuating  https://review.openstack.org/31557220:51
openstackgerritSylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: WIP: API change for verifying the scheduler when live migrating  https://review.openstack.org/31833420:51
mriedemdansmith: ah this https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/rpcapi.py#L33820:52
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mriedemwhich isn't set if you use the pin manually20:52
mriedembut that could be changed20:52
dansmithmriedem: yes, but also this: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/service.py#L32320:52
dansmithwhich is why it's really fine to check service version yourself in api20:52
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dansmithand tbh, there is something maybe not so nice about hiding this in compute rpc given we'll have to tear into the message to change our thing20:53
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mriedemyeah i'd rather just use the object cache thing20:53
dansmithI was just thinking of the easier reuse of all the "if version" stuff in compute rpc20:54
dansmithbut I think I've changed my mind20:54
mriedemok so i see conductor uses that cache already20:54
mriedemi'd need to do the same for api then20:54
dansmithyar20:54
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mriedemf yar20:55
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mriedemok, so i assume we're cool with this idea of if the min compute service version isn't new enough and they request 'auto', we change to None20:55
mriedembecause i don't really like the achy breaky alternative20:56
mriedemand downlevel computes isn't something i thought about before yesterday20:56
dansmithseems okay I think20:56
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Create Instance from BuildRequest if not in a cell  https://review.openstack.org/26392720:56
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Keep BuildRequest db entry around longer  https://review.openstack.org/30242520:56
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Drop fields from BuildRequest object and model  https://review.openstack.org/30595320:56
mriedemwhen we said it was cool to require auto now20:56
dansmithif we're really just talking about proper handling of the defaultness behavior20:56
dansmiththen .. meh20:56
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mriedemi think it is20:58
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mriedemcells meeting in 2 minutes!20:58
dansmithalaski: I have a very important request20:58
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mriedemfull hour20:59
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dansmithfull hour of work not meeting, yes20:59
bauzasmriedem: ooooh, thanks for the reminder !20:59
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alaskimriedem: heh21:00
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openstackgerritSarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Improve help text in cinder.py  https://review.openstack.org/31833921:09
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mriedemoomichi: any idea if this was fixed in mitaka? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/158291121:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1582911 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Relaxed validation for v2 doesn't accept null for user_data like legacy v2 does" [Undecided,New]21:12
mriedemwas reported for liberty21:12
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mriedemoomichi: looks like it's still a bug https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/user_data.py21:26
alaskimelwitt: I added a functional test to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263927/ to address a question you had. it exposed a couple of bugs, so thanks21:26
mriedemgmann: alex_xu: fyi https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/158291121:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1582911 in OpenStack Compute (nova) mitaka "Relaxed validation for v2 doesn't accept null for user_data like legacy v2 does (liberty)" [High,Confirmed]21:26
melwittalaski: cool, will check it out21:28
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: complete verification of baremetal api  https://review.openstack.org/31829521:31
openstackgerritGiridhar Jayavelu proposed openstack/nova-specs: VMware: add SR-IOV support  https://review.openstack.org/31712621:31
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openstackgerritSarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: [WIP] Improve help text in cinder.py  https://review.openstack.org/31833921:40
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melwittalaski: here are the deprecations for zeromq https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317878/ and also sileht mentioned on my spec review that zmq does indeed already fully support transport_url so everything is good21:49
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alaskimelwitt: excellent21:50
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openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Create Instance from BuildRequest if not in a cell  https://review.openstack.org/26392721:51
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openstackgerritKurt Taylor proposed openstack/nova: Update link for hypervisor support matrix message  https://review.openstack.org/31835121:57
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stewie925hi guys, so I ran a single request to create/boot an instance with max-count 2 for a 'test-instance'  under devstack cell environment22:01
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stewie925and it failed due to two policy checks plus a 'nova-api failed to start'22:02
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stewie925pretty stumped as to why- I ran 'nova service-list' and all nova services are up though22:04
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stewie925oops scratch that - I ran 'nova show <instance-name> and I found this error:  {"message": "No valid host was found. There are not enough hosts available.", "code": 500, "created": "2016-05-18T21:41:18Z"}22:07
stewie925No valid host was found...22:07
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openstackgerritGiridhar Jayavelu proposed openstack/nova-specs: VMware: add SR-IOV support  https://review.openstack.org/31712622:09
stewie925let me try creating another instance to see whats going to happen...22:09
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melwittstewie925: what are you using for --flavor? I would use m1.nano to make sure there are enough resources to fulfill the request. you should be able to see if it failed scheduling in the n-sch screen/log22:13
melwittstewie925: and if n-api isn't running then that's a bigger problem22:13
melwittstewie925: if it's not running in the n-api screen then hit up arrow and run the command line again22:14
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stewie925hi melwitt   i used the tiniest flavor I could find22:27
openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/nova-specs: Neutron Routed Networks  https://review.openstack.org/26389822:28
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stewie925oh I need to invoke the "screen -dr"22:28
stewie925but melwitt I restarted from my previous VM snapshot, so I didnt go bring down n-api ...22:29
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* stewie925 checking the n-api screen 22:32
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melwittstewie925: hm, okay23:01
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stewie925i restarted the vm and running stack.sh23:01
stewie925to get a fresh start23:01
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stewie925melwitt:  I pasted the n-api screen logs on http://paste.openstack.org/show/497625/  - looks like the n-api is up and running?  I see two 'policy check' fails23:32
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/31695123:33
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melwittstewie925: that looks normal. the policy fails are because you're using demo user and tenant and those extensions are set as admin-only in your /etc/nova/policy.json. it's not affecting 'nova boot'23:36
stewie925oh hey thank you melwitt  -  but when I ran the nova list its showing error23:37
melwittstewie925: you should look in the n-sch screen and read why 'No valid host' is happening23:37
melwittstewie925: what error?23:37
stewie925it shows no valid host23:37
stewie925No valid host was found. There are not enough hosts available.23:38
melwittyeah. that means the instance is in error state, not that 'nova list' is failing23:38
melwittin n-sch the debug logging should have more information about why it's finding no hosts to fulfill the request23:38
stewie925yeah the instance is in error state - let me grab the screen logs for n-sch...23:38
stewie925thank you so much23:39
stewie925its late your time, I will let you rest23:39
stewie925really appreciate your help - will research and share the n-sch screen tomorrow23:39
melwittokay, cool23:40
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