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| openstackgerrit | Jianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova-specs: Generalize PCI device as Host device https://review.openstack.org/385810 | 07:42 |
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| paul-carlton2 | I'm looking at a bug related to live migration of an instance with an encrypted volume attached, seems like the volume is attached at the target unencrypted and fails to disconnect at the source due to the way encrypted volumes are attached | 08:53 |
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| paul-carlton2 | Anyone have any experience of live migration with encrypted volumes? | 08:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: hacking: Reword in the imperative https://review.openstack.org/363624 | 08:57 |
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| huazhihao | I am wondering if `tox -ecover` is the right way to run coverage test for nova. I found that many ".coverage.DevStackOSDomU.*.*" will be generated. With one of them renamed to ".coverage" I can generate a html report, but the results are not what I expect. Only part of code are exercised and it doesn't make sense. I also notice some repeated errors of "InvalidRequestError: Can't start a SAVEPOINT transaction when no existi | 09:13 |
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| lyarwood | paul-carlton2: what does the connection_info on each host look like? That almost sounds as if the dest doesn't have the encrypted flag set for some reason | 09:16 |
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| paul-carlton2 | lyarwood, just testing it now but the cinder team pointed out that the connection at the dest is not using the calls needed to connect to an encrypted volume | 09:23 |
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| lyarwood | paul-carlton2: yeah, that's all controlled by the encryted flag being set in the connection_info['data'] dict cinder sends over to Nova | 09:37 |
| lyarwood | paul-carlton2: see https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/volume/encryptors/__init__.py#L62 | 09:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Add {get_,set_}aggregates to objects.ResourceProvider https://review.openstack.org/355263 | 10:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Implement get and set aggregates in the placement API https://review.openstack.org/357993 | 10:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: [placement] add a placement_aggregates table to api_db https://review.openstack.org/362863 | 10:45 |
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| paul-carlton2 | lyarwood, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1633033, seems like attempts to live migrate instances with encrypted volumes are currently doomed | 10:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1633033 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live migration with encrypted volume fails" [Undecided,New] | 10:53 |
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| paul-carlton2 | I think it might be fixable by checking for encryption in pre and post live migrate where we attach at target and detach at source, will try it out | 10:55 |
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| lyarwood | paul-carlton2: will do, thanks | 11:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova-specs: Enable cold migration with target host https://review.openstack.org/334725 | 12:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Add debug logs to output host weights for weighers https://review.openstack.org/385636 | 12:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova: Removed unnecessary parantheses in return statements https://review.openstack.org/370549 | 12:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Add debug logs to output host weights for weighers https://review.openstack.org/385636 | 12:49 |
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| prithiv | can someone please review this BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/modify-default-cpu-mode | 13:00 |
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| sfinucan | prithiv: I can't find a related spec. Is there one? | 13:05 |
| prithiv | I have a spec. I am not sure if a spec is needed for this BP. I needed someone to confirm that. If it is needed, I can put that up for review. | 13:08 |
| prithiv | I read that not all BP require a spec. | 13:08 |
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| sfinucan | prithiv: Yeah, that looks like a substantial new feature. I'd imagine it needs a spec | 13:13 |
| prithiv | no problem. I can put the spec for review today. | 13:13 |
| sfinucan | (y) | 13:14 |
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| John341 | I'm failing to add a new compute node on liberty/centos7. When I add the node, I can see it up in nova service-list, but it is not added to nova hypervisor-list. On the compute node I can in nova-compute.log see: ERROR: No compute node record for host compute-5, and ERROR: Error updating resources for node compute-5 error connecting to the cluster | 13:18 |
| John341 | Can anyone please hint where to look to fix this error? | 13:19 |
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| mriedem | gibi: have you seen this ML thread? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/105375.html | 13:31 |
| bauzas | cdent: around ? | 13:31 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: mriedem: argh, I'm surprised to see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343046/ | 13:32 |
| mdbooth | John341: You might get more joy asking in #openstack | 13:33 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: why are you surprised | 13:33 |
| dansmith | ? | 13:34 |
| bauzas | dansmith: because I was not knowing it was possible to have a query already | 13:34 |
| bauzas | dansmith: if so, that means that providing a request body could be difficult | 13:34 |
| dansmith | bauzas: but this is just querying resource providers if we know some attribute about them.. this is not the placement decision thing | 13:35 |
| dansmith | totally different sort of thing | 13:35 |
| bauzas | dansmith: so, what if some user is providing a req body *and* a list of attributes ? | 13:35 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: didn't we discuss yesterday using some other target for the placement decision interface? like /requests or something? | 13:36 |
| bauzas | dansmith: I thought we were okay to use a GET /resource_providers with a body, but given that, I think it's better to have the above | 13:36 |
| bauzas | ie. POST /request | 13:37 |
| bauzas | but then, I need to modify the spec I just wrote https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385618/ | 13:37 |
| dansmith | bauzas: this /resource_providers?foo=bar interface is for looking up resource providers based on their own attributes.. what we need is a thing that takes a more general placement request body, and which returns resource providers which satisfy that request right? | 13:37 |
| dansmith | a resource provider does not have any attribute of "memory_mb", so this /resource_providers interface is not what we're looking for | 13:38 |
| dansmith | unless I'm completely missing something | 13:38 |
| bauzas | dansmith: well, my point was we asking for returning RPs | 13:38 |
| John341 | mdbooth: okay will do, thx! | 13:38 |
| bauzas | hence me thinking of GET /RPs with a request | 13:38 |
| mriedem | sahid: thanks for the detailed review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385683/ | 13:38 |
| bauzas | but anyway, I'll create then a POST /request rather | 13:39 |
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| bauzas | heh, SEARCH seems good | 13:39 |
| bauzas | cdent: I was not knowing of the existing of the SEARCH HTTP method | 13:40 |
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| cdent | SEARCH is not a great idea | 13:40 |
| bauzas | cdent: that looks the best direction | 13:40 |
| bauzas | cdent: why ? | 13:40 |
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| cdent | because it is a method that's not defined in the standard rfcs | 13:40 |
| cdent | it comes out of webdav | 13:40 |
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| cdent | which doesn't make it wrong | 13:40 |
| bauzas | ah, graaah | 13:40 |
| cdent | but may make it ... weird | 13:40 |
| bauzas | cdent: so my point would be then about a new URI with a post method | 13:41 |
| bauzas | cdent: POST /placement_request | 13:41 |
| cdent | there is no such resource placement_request | 13:41 |
| bauzas | I know | 13:41 |
| cdent | there is a resource named /resource_providers | 13:41 |
| bauzas | I would have to create that REST resource | 13:42 |
| cdent | /placement_request means nothing | 13:42 |
| dansmith | bauzas: cdent: this is the most concise statement about the uri from yesterday that I remember: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2016-10-12.log.html#t2016-10-12T20:23:10 | 13:42 |
| cdent | no, you don't | 13:42 |
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| gibi | mriedem: looking | 13:42 |
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| cdent | dansmith, bauzas the thing you want is a collection of resource providers, we have a resource/endpoint for that already | 13:42 |
| bauzas | dansmith: right, I think it was the consensus : having GET /rps with a body | 13:42 |
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| bauzas | cdent: and having an action is not good, you said ? | 13:43 |
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| cdent | right | 13:43 |
| dansmith | bauzas: I think the consensus was to use a different resource, and I thought you suggested it and were in agreement | 13:43 |
| bauzas | cdent: because I'd kill for GET /rps/request | 13:43 |
| dansmith | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2016-10-12.log.html#t2016-10-12T20:20:02 | 13:43 |
| cdent | bauzas: there are two reasons that's no good | 13:43 |
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| mriedem | maybe a hangout is in order | 13:44 |
| bauzas | dansmith: honestly, I'm not opiniated between GET /RPs with a body and POST /request | 13:44 |
| bauzas | I went down to GET /RPs because I thought it was the preference for jay | 13:44 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312488/ when you get a minute | 13:44 |
| cdent | bauzas: one reason is there's already a pattern of /resource_providers/{uuid} | 13:45 |
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| cdent | if we put 'request' in there where uuids go, that violates the pattern | 13:45 |
| bauzas | cdent: you only leave me to write a POST /request then | 13:46 |
| bauzas | I want to be pragmatic | 13:46 |
| cdent | (see: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/uri.html ) | 13:46 |
| cdent | bauzas: what is wrong with POST /resource_providers ? | 13:46 |
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| bauzas | cdent: we had a long convo yesterday evening that said finally either GET /RPs with body *or* POST /req | 13:48 |
| bauzas | cdent: I don't want to rabbit-hole again | 13:48 |
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| cdent | no, I'm pretty sure we also included POST /resource_providers as an option | 13:48 |
| cdent | that is the only option that is even remotely correct | 13:49 |
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| cdent | or get with a query string | 13:49 |
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| bauzas | cdent: no, we NACK'd that | 13:49 |
| cdent | well you're wrong | 13:49 |
| cdent | i'm sorry guys | 13:49 |
| cdent | this is just... silly | 13:49 |
| bauzas | POST /resource_providers means "I want to create a resource provider" | 13:49 |
| cdent | no, it means "process the body of this request according to the semantics the server defines" | 13:50 |
| cdent | creating another url to return resource providers is just weird | 13:50 |
| bauzas | so the semantics would be far different between 'name and uuid" that creates a new RP, and "query" (or "resources" or whatever") that would *not* create but rather return a list of RPs | 13:51 |
| cdent | I'm sorry that you guys think that doing things correctly is going down a rabbit hole | 13:51 |
| bauzas | I'm sorry, but I think it would be far more confusing for users that POST could either create or get a list of RPs | 13:52 |
| bauzas | depending on the body | 13:52 |
| bauzas | good luck with that | 13:52 |
| cdent | well there are a few options for that, as I stated on your spec | 13:52 |
| bauzas | I saw | 13:52 |
| bauzas | cdent: but I think we already discussed on the first 2 alternatives you mentioned | 13:52 |
| bauzas | cdent: some of us were very against having a long QS that could become tricky to handle once we would get down to ask for traits or more complex objects | 13:53 |
| bauzas | cdent: and the 2nd option is the one we just asked | 13:53 |
| bauzas | s/asked/discussed | 13:53 |
| bauzas | cdent: you're NACKing the 2 others left | 13:54 |
| bauzas | cdent: now, what's left? | 13:54 |
| cdent | Look, I'm sorry if this is difficult for you, but I'm going to defend correctness. That's my job. If you choose to override me that's fine, but I'm not going to sit idly while there are reasonable option that you're not choosing simply because, though correct, you don't like them. | 13:54 |
| bauzas | and just to be clear, we wouldn't be representing the RequestSpec object | 13:54 |
| bauzas | either waty | 13:55 |
| bauzas | because that RequestSpec contains things that aren't either qualitative or quantitative amount requests | 13:55 |
| cdent | it's a repressentation of a request spec that is a result of a transformation from the RequestSpec | 13:55 |
| cdent | yes, I know | 13:55 |
| edleafe | bauzas: what is the issue with a long QS? How long does it have to be to be "tricky | 13:55 |
| bauzas | I would just extract the quantitative bits of that Spec and would query the placement API for those resoruce classes | 13:55 |
| edleafe | ? | 13:55 |
| bauzas | edleafe: oh man, I should use a Delorean and go back to yesterday evening :) | 13:56 |
| bauzas | fortunately, infra built a tool for me | 13:56 |
| edleafe | bauzas: I remember that it was claimed that it was difficult | 13:56 |
| bauzas | edleafe: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2016-10-12.log.html#t2016-10-12T20:11:55 | 13:56 |
| edleafe | but never felt that it was explained | 13:56 |
| bauzas | (and above) | 13:56 |
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| sahid | mriedem: cool :) | 13:57 |
| edleafe | bauzas: exactly. Calling it "gunk" isn't helpful | 13:57 |
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| edleafe | I mean, are we envisioning people typing in long QSs by hand? | 13:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Hussain Chachuliya proposed openstack/nova: Replace uuid4() with uuidsentinel https://review.openstack.org/377663 | 13:58 |
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| tanvirt_ | mdbooth: So do you want to just chat on here about the libvirt BP? | 13:59 |
| bauzas | edleafe: the problem is also mixed by the fact we're accepting to filter already https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343046/ | 13:59 |
| mdbooth | tanvirt_: Lets jump out of the way | 13:59 |
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| cdent | bauzas: how is that a problem? | 14:00 |
| cdent | all we are doing is extending the filter | 14:00 |
| edleafe | bauzas: that's a namespacing problem | 14:00 |
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| bauzas | what edleafe said | 14:00 |
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| edleafe | because we're not filtering on RP attrs with a request | 14:01 |
| edleafe | s/request/placement request | 14:01 |
| dansmith | I said it too | 14:02 |
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| cdent | a query string is just that, a query string | 14:02 |
| cdent | it's not always going to be attributes of the returned stuff | 14:02 |
| cdent | it's going to be things that shape the returned stuff | 14:02 |
| bauzas | edleafe: if we speak of QSes, there are 2 possibilities : either passing a list of parameters and good hope for reconstructing that, if in the meantime the user is also providing a list of UUIDs | 14:03 |
| edleafe | cdent: exactly. Hence the only issue with the previous query is namespacing | 14:03 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: or, consider a serialized single parameter that would include the whole request | 14:03 |
| edleafe | bauzas: the latter | 14:03 |
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| bauzas | meh, jay was particularly against that idea | 14:04 |
| edleafe | then we can have: GET /rps?name=foo&resources={...} | 14:04 |
| bauzas | edleafe: and what if foo can't handle the resource request ?N | 14:04 |
| edleafe | not that we'd ever do both together | 14:04 |
| bauzas | empty list? | 14:04 |
| cdent | yes, of course an empty list | 14:04 |
| edleafe | bauzas: what else?? | 14:04 |
| bauzas | a nespresso ? | 14:05 |
| bauzas | actually, I think it's a very good idea | 14:05 |
| mriedem | lyarwood: sahid: mdbooth: i took a pass through https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312488/ - it had 0 test coverage on most of the changes, but otherwise it's not the worst :) | 14:05 |
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| mdbooth | mriedem: I was just looking at it | 14:05 |
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| edleafe | Coffee is almost always the correct answer | 14:05 |
| mdbooth | It does a couple of weird things I might need to think about harder | 14:05 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: yeah the kwargs thing in imagebackend is really odd to me | 14:06 |
| mriedem | like i don't even know why that's in there for this | 14:06 |
| mdbooth | That's not the weird thing :) | 14:06 |
| mriedem | but i get lost following how all of those parts are connected | 14:06 |
| mdbooth | That's crufty everywhere | 14:06 |
| markus_z | anyone from xen around? I'd need help to understand http://logs.openstack.xenproject.org/80/334480/17/check/dsvm-tempest-xen/a36252b/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 14:06 |
| mdbooth | The ephemeral disk creation is odd | 14:06 |
| BobBall | markus_z: The console output being empty? | 14:07 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: yeah idk, we also have 0 ephemeral disk testing in tempest right? | 14:08 |
| mriedem | besides maybe the device tags test that artom is trying to get in | 14:08 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: I think we do. It's not thorough, though. | 14:08 |
| markus_z | BobBall: yeah. I changed code there and I might have broken xen with it. | 14:08 |
| mdbooth | The weird thing with it is that with other backends we create a disk first, then create a filesystem | 14:08 |
| markus_z | BobBall: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334480/17/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py | 14:09 |
| mdbooth | But with ploop they seem to be the same operation | 14:09 |
| mdbooth | So the if block we're adding to _create_ephemeral doesn't do the same as the rest of it, which is weird | 14:09 |
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| BobBall | markus_z: Curious patchset 16 passed and 16-17 was just a rebase from what I see | 14:11 |
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| mriedem | mdbooth: yeah i see what you're saying | 14:11 |
| mriedem | seems to shortcut this a but | 14:11 |
| mriedem | *bit | 14:11 |
| BobBall | anthonyper ^^ | 14:11 |
| bauzas | cdent: is jaypipes around, or planned to be ? | 14:13 |
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| cdent | bauzas: I don't know for certain, but I suspect he is extremely busy | 14:14 |
| bauzas | cdent: before moving further with the idea of a new QS parameter called 'brok' or whatever, I'd like to see him acking that idea | 14:14 |
| cdent | i haven't seen him in any of the various online forms yet today | 14:14 |
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| bauzas | I can modify my POC tho and put it online | 14:14 |
| bauzas | that's not a big deal | 14:14 |
| cdent | bauzas: I'd like to think we could iterate through a few options on the review itself | 14:14 |
| BobBall | anthonyper: so for some reason change 334480 is introducing a big race condition for Xen getting the console in the shutoff state. | 14:15 |
| cdent | doing it here seems to limit the amount of tempered reflection that happens | 14:15 |
| markus_z | BobBall: anthonyper: yeah. Do you have a xml dump of a libvirt-xen domain for me? | 14:15 |
| bauzas | cdent: okay, so I'm upping the review in the next couple of hours | 14:15 |
| bauzas | cdent: and we could bite it as much as we hate | 14:15 |
| BobBall | markus_z: anthonyper might, but I dont | 14:16 |
| cdent | thanks bauzas | 14:17 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: ahh tempest has test_verify_created_server_ephemeral_disk but we don't run it in the gate b/c it requires ssh | 14:17 |
| mriedem | which is disabled by default | 14:17 |
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| anthonyper | markus_z: not at hand, I can try to log into one of the running tests to grab one. | 14:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/nova: Add ability to view quota details for project owner https://review.openstack.org/386008 | 14:20 |
| markus_z | anthonyper: Would be great. I assume line 2649 is the issue | 14:20 |
| artom | mriedem, that test no longer uses ephemeral disks | 14:21 |
| mriedem | artom: ok | 14:21 |
| mriedem | artom: it could, if it was like https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/13.0.0/tempest/api/compute/servers/test_create_server.py#L266 | 14:21 |
| mriedem | but i don't want to make it more complicated at this point | 14:22 |
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| artom | mriedem, yeah, I could create a flavor | 14:22 |
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| artom | mriedem, but like you said, what's the point? It's testing device tagging, and all I need for that is a volume that I can attach without tags | 14:22 |
| mriedem | creating a flavor would also require it to be an admin test | 14:23 |
| mriedem | which i don't think it is today | 14:23 |
| artom | I initially thought the easiest way to get that was ephemeral, but since I'd have to create a flavor... it's easier to just create another volume | 14:23 |
| artom | mriedem, it's isn't | 14:23 |
| anthonyper | markus_z: <console type='pty' tty='/dev/pts/22'><source path='/dev/pts/22'/><target type='xen' port='0'/></console> | 14:24 |
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| anthonyper | markus_z: maybe I should run that on the CI loop, this dump comes from my machine which don't have the same version of libvirt ... | 14:28 |
| dansmith | alaski: I'm cool with your conductor manifesto, FWIW, if you want to rev it for jlk's comments | 14:29 |
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| alaski | dansmith: oh right, forgot to do that | 14:29 |
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| markus_z | anthonyper: hm, that xml gets handled from my code | 14:32 |
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| markus_z | anthonyper: Is it really possible to dump a pty device of a shutoff instance? | 14:40 |
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| mriedem | sahid: i just realize the hw_pointer_model image meta has an enum object field and the only value is usbtablet, but the config option for pointer_model also has ps2mouse | 14:41 |
| markus_z | s/dump/flush | 14:41 |
| mriedem | i wonder if the image meta should allow ps2mouse? although that's equivalent to None | 14:41 |
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| mriedem | sahid: also, it seems like hw_pointer_model should be in https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/13.0.0/etc/metadefs/compute-libvirt-image.json somewhere | 14:42 |
| mriedem | i don't think we document the hw_pointer_model image meta anywhere | 14:42 |
| anthonyper | markus_z: I don't think so, maybe unless the machine is preserved on shutdown, otherwise once a machine is shutdown, everything from it is removed. | 14:42 |
| mriedem | besides the nova config options and release notes for newton that is | 14:42 |
| anthonyper | markus_z: But I'm not sure what libvirt does. | 14:43 |
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| mriedem | sahid: i also got to thinking about the case that the user requests an image with hw_pointer_model=usbtablet and it fails to build on a host because that host doesn't have vnc or spice enabled, will we properly reschedule? or will the user just get a NoValidHost? | 14:46 |
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| mriedem | i guess as an operator you could setup aggregates that have usbtablet support and map those to the images with hw_pointer_model=usbtablet | 14:46 |
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| mriedem | what a mess | 14:46 |
| markus_z | anthonyper: I wonder if the flush here even works for shutoff instances: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L2702 | 14:47 |
| anthonyper | markus_z: that the only why to grab the console output, right? | 14:48 |
| sahid | mriedem: yes... we did not update the enum of image_meta when we have added that new ps2mouse | 14:48 |
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| sahid | mriedem: in case the instance get scheduled on a host which can handle the request, it should be re-scheduled, right ? | 14:49 |
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| markus_z | anthonyper: AFAIK that's true for libvirt-xen, yes. | 14:49 |
| sahid | but for sure we should probably have something in the scheduler... | 14:49 |
| sahid | s/which can/which can't | 14:50 |
| markus_z | anthonyper: I think the tempest test case here assumes that there is a "console.log" file which persists the logs even in shutoff state: https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/f1448f0caa509013399afc4bc18ca3a2c5c34d17/tempest/api/compute/servers/test_server_actions.py#L465-L465 | 14:51 |
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| mriedem | sahid: yeah i guess it will fall through and we'll reschedule https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/14.0.1/nova/compute/manager.py#L1972 | 14:52 |
| sahid | it's probably not the best way, that is going to consume time and resources | 14:53 |
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| sahid | mriedem: is there a filter able to do some correlations between hosts and image properties ? | 14:54 |
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| mriedem | yeah i think so, let me dig out the tome of scheduler filters | 14:55 |
| sahid | we need a filter to quickly pass on hosts which can't handle the request | 14:55 |
| sahid | so we can add documentation for operators | 14:55 |
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| mriedem | sahid: i think it's AggregateImagePropertiesIsolation | 14:57 |
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| mriedem | there is also ImagePropertiesFilter but that's more specific image properties | 14:57 |
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| mriedem | bauzas could probably confirm | 14:58 |
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| mriedem | hmm, so pointer_model defaults to 'usbtablet', and vnc.enabled defaults to True, what is the default os_type? | 15:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Update rolling upgrade steps from upgrades documentation https://review.openstack.org/373549 | 15:03 |
| mriedem | i guess as long as the virt type isn't lxc/uml/xen, then the os_type is hvm | 15:03 |
| mriedem | but by default, you won't be able to spawn an instance if you're using libvirt + lxc/uml/xen | 15:03 |
| mriedem | this change is full of landmines... | 15:04 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: a couple more things in that upgrade doc | 15:15 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: you wanna push those and I'll +2? if not, I'll be glad to hit them | 15:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: sure, will look at them now | 15:15 |
| sahid | mriedem: oh yes... we have set pointer_model to usbstablet per default | 15:15 |
| dansmith | cool | 15:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: we got the old and new api side by side working by the way, will do follow patch with the process (with a note saying its not really tested) | 15:16 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: wicked :) | 15:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: I think resize broke and the way we register the API service isn't quite right out the box, but otherwise, full tempest worked on both old and new api node, with old and new computes | 15:17 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: okay | 15:17 |
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| BobBall | mriedem: I'm being blind and my google foo is failing me - where can I find the latest nova coverage runs? | 15:20 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: I think you're good to +W that | 15:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: yeah, I guess it was just nits | 15:23 |
| dansmith | yeah, and just docs | 15:23 |
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| mriedem | BobBall: you'd have to ask infra, they are in some post queue somewhere | 15:24 |
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| BobBall | ah - ok - I assumed you were looking at them because of your .coverage change :) | 15:25 |
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| markus_z | sdague: fyi: that's the bug I was talking about yesterday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1632987 | 15:32 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: sorry was away for one hour (thanks to my daughter's homework...) | 16:02 |
| bauzas | mriedem: what was the question about the image filters? | 16:02 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: wanted to confirm that if you wanted to schedule certain images with certain properties to certain hosts, you'd have to use AggregateImagePropertiesIsolation | 16:05 |
| mriedem | and the host would have to be in an aggregate with metadata that matches the image meta | 16:05 |
| bauzas | yup, that's how operators do | 16:05 |
| bauzas | zactly | 16:05 |
| mriedem | ok, because the pointer_model stuff is very hairy | 16:06 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: which change could I help ? | 16:06 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385683/ | 16:06 |
| mriedem | i'm going to have an update to that shortly | 16:06 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: yeah, the ImagePropertiesFilter like you said is for more saying "I want X or Y" | 16:06 |
| bauzas | mriedem: tbc, the ImagePropsFilter checks the HostState about the image props | 16:08 |
| bauzas | mriedem: while the AggregateImagePropsIsolation is for rather saying image tagged 'foo' == aggregate tagged 'foo' | 16:09 |
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| mriedem | what could possible go wrong | 16:14 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: is that a question ? | 16:15 |
| rafael_ | speaking of AggregateImagePropertiesIsolation, I'm seeing this, even though my image does have metadata present and matches the aggrega "Host 'hostname' has a metadata key 'availability_zone' that is not present in the image metadata" | 16:16 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: no | 16:16 |
| bauzas | cdent: edleafe: if we say we're passing a grok as a single parameter, which kind of format should we accept, API-WG hat wise ? :p | 16:16 |
| bauzas | is a JSON-encoded string is enough? | 16:16 |
| bauzas | or should I base64 it ? | 16:16 |
| edleafe | bauzas: I wrote an example of that here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-request-providers | 16:17 |
| edleafe | at the end | 16:17 |
| edleafe | And yeah, JSON would be best | 16:17 |
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| edleafe | unless you know some odd binary resources :) | 16:17 |
| bauzas | JSON is nice for the readability, but I worry for the lenght | 16:18 |
| bauzas | length* | 16:18 |
| bauzas | well, actually we should pad less | 16:19 |
| bauzas | anyway | 16:19 |
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| jaypipes | cdent: hey, just read back... | 16:23 |
| jaypipes | cdent: where is that etherpad we were using from yesterday? | 16:23 |
| jaypipes | cdent: got a link somewhere? can't seem to find it myself. | 16:23 |
| dansmith | edleafe: bauzas: I thought everyone was in agreement that the blob query parameter was a terrible idea? | 16:24 |
| cdent | jaypipes: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-request-providers | 16:24 |
| jaypipes | danke | 16:24 |
| cdent | it's also linked from the first spec in the two spec bauzas is working on | 16:24 |
| bauzas | dansmith: we're just circling over that :) | 16:24 |
| cdent | i'm in api-wg meeting at the mo, but will catch up later | 16:24 |
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| jaypipes | kk | 16:25 |
| bauzas | dansmith: the problem is that I don't have alternatives, and cdent really dislikes having a specific REST resource for posting our request | 16:25 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: the fact also is that we already filter a list of RPs based on the QS with the index method | 16:25 |
| bauzas | where the parameters could be either uuid or name | 16:26 |
| bauzas | so, speaking of consistency, that leaves us a very few room | 16:26 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: well, correctness is _the_ most important thing | 16:27 |
| bauzas | the real real RESTful solution for that kind of problem being a 2-call situation : 1/ do a POST /myrequest with large body 2/ GET /myobjects?request=req_uuid that I got by the POST | 16:28 |
| migi | cdent: hi, I have question around https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/functional/api/openstack/placement/gabbits/unicode.yaml#L47-L72 | 16:28 |
| bauzas | but that implies 2 callbacks, which I want to avoid | 16:28 |
| migi | cdent: could you tell me more on when those are expected to fail? | 16:29 |
| bauzas | dansmith: so you'd be in favor of a POST /myrequest ? | 16:29 |
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| cdent | migi the theory is that they might fail when using a mysql backend that is not configured to use mb4 characters | 16:29 |
| dansmith | bauzas: I'm in favor of getting things done, and asserting opinions doesn't seem to be very constructive at this point | 16:30 |
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| migi | cdent: and is the test case checking if the scenario is set up this way? | 16:30 |
| bauzas | dansmith: so I'm just writing a patch that does GET /rps?min_resources=JSON_grok | 16:30 |
| migi | cdent: am asking because they are unexpectedly succeeding in my env and am trying to find out why | 16:31 |
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| cdent | migi: they will frequently succeed, that's okay | 16:31 |
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| migi | not really as I have set up things that they unexpected success is reporting failure as overall result | 16:32 |
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| cdent | migi: what did you do to make that happen? | 16:33 |
| migi | so now I either have to do something to the env so those 3 fails or change the strategy for more then just this | 16:33 |
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| cdent | migi: will you be around 25 minutes from now? | 16:34 |
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| migi | cdent: yes | 16:34 |
| cdent | cool, I'll be able to think about this more directly then | 16:35 |
| migi | thanks | 16:35 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas, edleafe, dansmith, cdent: ok, I've added my idea to the etherpad of what I'd like to see. Lemme know if I've explained it clearly. I recognize that dansmith disagrees with the proposed use of GET /resource-providers and would prefer to see a new REST resource called GET /requests or similar. I've explained in the Notes area why I think it's more correct and appropriate to use GET | 16:35 |
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| jaypipes | /resource-providers for this. | 16:36 |
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| anthonyper | markus_z: BTW, once the vm is in shutdown state, the xml dump have this: <console type='pty'><target type='xen' port='0'/></console> | 16:36 |
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| cdent | jaypipes: have you read my coments on bauzas second review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385618/ | 16:38 |
| markus_z | anthonyper: oh, that means the "path" isn't there anymore. I'm still wondering why it works without my change. | 16:38 |
| bauzas | folks, I'll need to do my family duty for the evening, be back in a couple of hours | 16:39 |
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| jaypipes | cdent: no, will do that now. | 16:43 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: thanks for writing that out. I think it convinces me that we should use POST and to something other than resource_providers.. Because you're POSTing a structured request, which I know is all filtering the list in the backend to you, but it just feels wrong to me | 16:45 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: that said, I'm exhausted with the discussion and I just want to get the things working, | 16:45 |
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| dansmith | the purity of the thing is much more important to the rest of you | 16:45 |
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| dansmith | so I will try to stop arguing one way or the other | 16:46 |
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| anthonyper | markus_z: Is the the test correct ? Does it actually try to get the console output of the shutdown server? (The temp server does not seams to be used by _get_output) | 16:48 |
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| markus_z | anthonyper: What do you mean with that? | 16:56 |
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| anthonyper | markus_z: And if I try manually, without your patch, I get an error, and with your patch, I only get an empty output. | 16:58 |
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| markus_z | anthonyper: what error do you get? | 16:58 |
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| anthonyper | markus_z: ERROR (ClientException): Unexpected API Error. And in nova-cpu log: UnboundLocalError: local variable 'pty' referenced before assignment | 16:59 |
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| anthonyper | markus_z: end of backtrace: File "/opt/stack/nova/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py", line 2702, in get_console_output; data = self._flush_libvirt_console(pty) | 17:01 |
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| markus_z | anthonyper: That error message makes sense: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#n2688 | 17:02 |
| cdent | migi: okay, sorry about that before, was in a meeting. So you've adjusted the test environment somehow so that a uxsuccess is a fail. How/why did you do that? (so I understand what's going on) | 17:02 |
| migi | cdent: it's not upstream test environment | 17:02 |
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| cdent | yeah, I gathered that | 17:03 |
| markus_z | Because a pty device is define but has no source, which means the variable "pty" gets never assigned in "get_console_output" | 17:03 |
| mnaser | I'm troubleshooting an issue where instances are being scheduled on nodes without enough free memory. Is it possible I'm running into a race condition, this is what I imagine is happening: 3 scheduler nodes, 3 users request 4GB servers at the same time, there is a node with 4GB of memory free, all 3 scheduler nodes decide it's the best one and schedule it on it, one of the servers provision, the rest fail | 17:03 |
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| mnaser | This is in an environment with ram_weight_multiplier=-1 so the likeliness of the same server being picked is high | 17:03 |
| migi | cdent: so the file that was introduced required first bump to never version of gabbi | 17:03 |
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| cdent | migi: probably the easiest thing to do, in the immediate, is just remove the unicode.yaml file | 17:04 |
| migi | that fixed half of the issues and second introduced unexpected succeed | 17:04 |
| mnaser | the better question is.. is there coordination between nova-scheduler nodes (or locking?) .. should we move towards a single active scheduler with backup instead? | 17:04 |
| markus_z | anthonyper: I have to go for today, let's talk tomorrow about this. Thanks a lot for debugging this with me. | 17:04 |
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| migi | cdent: well I have work-around for immediate, but wanted to check with you if there is better way of fixing it | 17:05 |
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| migi | e.g. what should be set up on the environment to actually do the unexpected success or design the tests that they fail all the times when such env is met | 17:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated use_usb_tablet config option https://review.openstack.org/385683 | 17:06 |
| mriedem | ^ scares me | 17:06 |
| mriedem | mnestratov|2: ^ will make the virtuozzo ci fail | 17:06 |
| migi | cdent: or other way around, why to introduce tests that sometimes fails sometimes report success depending on the environment they are ran in (don't see any value add as nobody will ever notice when things are supposed to fail/succeed) | 17:06 |
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| cdent | migi: because the database backend is different in different gate runs in some of the environments they will pass in others fail | 17:08 |
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| migi | cdent: that is understandable, but if there is no +1/-1 just somewhere in the logs then there is little value of running it | 17:08 |
| melwitt | mnaser: what are you using for scheduler_host_subset_size? it defaults to 1. if you increase that, you can reduce the chances of picking the same host for parallel requests | 17:09 |
| cdent | migi: that's what i was just going to say: the tests were putting in for informtion/discovery | 17:09 |
| cdent | migi: so at this point it might make sense to get rid of them | 17:09 |
| cdent | (that is, they served an initial purpose and if they've in the way now, could just kill them) | 17:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova: Simple tenant usage pagination https://review.openstack.org/386093 | 17:10 |
| mnaser | melwitt: thanks for the pointer, i'll read about that. i don't believe we have tweaked that | 17:10 |
| mriedem | mnestratov|2: if you guys were using upstream devstack for your ci it wouldn't be a problem because devstack upstream defaults pointer_model to 'ps2mouse' | 17:10 |
| migi | cdent: ok I will remove them in my env and let you decide what to do with those as they are your babies :-) | 17:10 |
| migi | cdent: many thanks! | 17:11 |
| cdent | migi: they're not my babies, they're tests in nova | 17:11 |
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| migi | right | 17:11 |
| cdent | if you want to propose a change to permanently remove them, I'd happily comment on it that I think it's fine to do so | 17:11 |
| melwitt | mnaser: I can't find a newer doc but this explains what it means http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/section_compute-scheduler.html and also you might consider increasing the number of times it will retry. those two config settings are useful in dealing with the situation you describe | 17:11 |
| migi | cdent: will do | 17:12 |
| mnaser | melwitt: looks like urls shuffled around, i found it here :) http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/config-reference/compute/scheduler.html | 17:12 |
| cdent | migi: cool, thank you | 17:12 |
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| mnaser | i will look at those and make some tests from there | 17:12 |
| mnaser | i think both those options will hopefully decrease the occurance of this | 17:12 |
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| mnaser | according to elasticsearch we hit this 200 times, eek | 17:14 |
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| diana_clarke | mriedem, sdague, etc: Do you want a spec for simple tenant usage pagination? This thread [1] seems to suggest we perhaps don't need one for each pagination task going forward. | 17:14 |
| mnaser | thank you so much melwitt for the pointers | 17:14 |
| diana_clarke | [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/095545.html | 17:14 |
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| diana_clarke | (I'm not 100% done, but I'm close) | 17:15 |
| mriedem | diana_clarke: given your discussion with dansmith it didn't sound trivial to add paging to that api | 17:15 |
| mriedem | unlike other apis that are fairly straightforward | 17:15 |
| mriedem | also, it didn't turn out to be trivial in the case of instance actions either and that one was held out because we had issues deciding on the marker | 17:15 |
| sdague | diana_clarke: last cycle I threw out the idea that we should probably just have a single spec for pagination / sorting each cycle | 17:15 |
| sdague | and add bits to there | 17:16 |
| sdague | but, if marker is complicated, maybe it's own spec is fine | 17:16 |
| dansmith | sdague: right she said that, but this one is particularly hairy | 17:16 |
| dansmith | sdague: very not straightforward | 17:16 |
| diana_clarke | dansmith: I went with the trivial approach so far, but I would like to consider moving the aggregation to SQL (group by etc). | 17:17 |
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| diana_clarke | I'll work on a spec once I figure out how to create multiple instances in the functional tests (to exercise the marker). | 17:18 |
| melwitt | mnaser: sure, hope it helps. let me know if it works out or if you run into something else | 17:18 |
| diana_clarke | dansmith: In the mean time, I tossed a working example up to play with. Do let me know if that wasn't what you had in mind (if you have time). Thanks! | 17:18 |
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| dansmith | diana_clarke: I had "paginate the api" in mind and nothing else | 17:20 |
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| mnestratov|2 | mriedem: thanks for headsup | 17:20 |
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| cdent | dansmith, jaypipes, bauzas, edleafe: I don't like get with a body, I think we shoiuld either get with a query string or post with a body, but it is more important to me that we use the /resource_providers URL (because it shoudl be the one thing that returns a list of rps) than any of the other issues, so if it takes get with a body to get that URI, so be it. And I'll try really hard to make that my last comment on t | 17:21 |
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| alaski | fwiw I'm on the POST with a body bandwagon, with a new URL like /resource_providers/list but I don't really care what it is. But I'm not going to get into it beyond making that statement | 17:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Pryc proposed openstack/nova: Removal of tests that reported different result depending on testing env https://review.openstack.org/386101 | 17:26 |
| melwitt | I have a similar opinion. I don't like the idea of encoded json in a query string. if we POST with a body then I think the URL should make it very obvious it's a read-only | 17:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Pryc proposed openstack/nova: Removal of tests with different result depending on testing env https://review.openstack.org/386101 | 17:28 |
| migi | cdent: ^ thanks again | 17:28 |
| cdent | looking now migi | 17:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Nicolas Simonds proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Make "policy" a mandatory argument for server-group-create https://review.openstack.org/385690 | 17:30 |
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| dansmith | cdent: jaypipes edleafe melwitt alaski bauzas: I summarized the options in the bottom of the etherpad and put some names next to them, just because I think this will get lost in the scrollback and jaypipes is probably busy | 17:30 |
| dansmith | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-request-providers | 17:30 |
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| cdent | thanks dansmith | 17:33 |
| mnestratov|2 | mriedem: we'll try to fix it | 17:34 |
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| edleafe | dansmith: thx | 17:39 |
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| dansmith | edleafe: did you put bauzas in? | 17:40 |
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| edleafe | yes | 17:40 |
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| dansmith | edleafe: not sure that's his opinion so I was going to let him do it | 17:40 |
| edleafe | he added the section in orange above the summary | 17:40 |
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| dansmith | edleafe: that's jay | 17:41 |
| edleafe | oh geez | 17:41 |
| dansmith | heh | 17:41 |
| dansmith | edleafe: I would expect you to have a better respect for the voting process given the current season :) | 17:41 |
| edleafe | I thought bauzas said he was going to add that | 17:41 |
| edleafe | Well, I don't see it as a vote | 17:42 |
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| dansmith | edleafe: well, he's been back and forth so I wanted him to do it | 17:42 |
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| dansmith | edleafe: yes, not a vote, just had to work current events in there | 17:42 |
| edleafe | dansmith: and I don't want to see you wearing a "Make APIs great again" hat | 17:42 |
| dansmith | heh | 17:43 |
| dansmith | there should be a "Make ______ great again" hat with a little velcro patch for the blank so you can swap stuff in there | 17:43 |
| cburgess | OMG yes | 17:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Remove watchdog_actions module https://review.openstack.org/386107 | 17:43 |
| cburgess | dansmith We would make a whole set of OpenStack themed patches then. | 17:44 |
| dansmith | cburgess: yes.. surely I'm not the first person to think of this | 17:44 |
| cburgess | OpenStack, Cloud, Nova, QEMU, OSLO, etc. | 17:44 |
| dansmith | Quantum | 17:44 |
| dansmith | Nova-Network | 17:44 |
| edleafe | You mean _____ isn't great already? | 17:44 |
| cburgess | dansmith YES! and it has to be quantum, not neutron. | 17:44 |
| dansmith | cburgess: of course | 17:44 |
| mriedem | make placement great. period. | 17:44 |
| dansmith | cburgess: I feel like this is a thing you can make happen | 17:44 |
| cburgess | dansmith Hmm why is that? | 17:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Nicolas Simonds proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Make "policy" a mandatory argument for server-group-create https://review.openstack.org/385690 | 17:45 |
| dansmith | cburgess: I dunno, seems like a high level orchestration task | 17:45 |
| bauzas | cdent: jaypipes: melwitt: dansmith: alaski: edleafe: I have a final call | 17:45 |
| bauzas | cdent: jaypipes: melwitt: dansmith: alaski: edleafe: after thinking of that for a couple of times, here are my thoughts | 17:46 |
| cdent | dansmith, edleafe do we want to noisy this up with another option? query string without encoding, instead explicit query strings | 17:46 |
| edleafe | bauzas: we all do what you say anyway | 17:46 |
| cburgess | dansmith LOL I like, I'm a high level orchestration service now. I'll look into it. I feel like mikal would be helpful as well. Too little time before Barcelona but perhaps I can get something for Boston. | 17:46 |
| bauzas | so, my point is that I think we provide a document to the placement PAI | 17:46 |
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| bauzas | API | 17:46 |
| bauzas | the document being a request | 17:46 |
| edleafe | cdent: sure, but it's really the same with/without json | 17:46 |
| dansmith | cdent: if you want, but four options are already fairly confusing, so unless it's extremely distinct in your head, meh | 17:46 |
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| dansmith | cburgess: heh | 17:47 |
| bauzas | given we *provide* a document to the placement API, a POST/PATCH/PUT could be good | 17:47 |
| bauzas | but | 17:47 |
| cdent | dansmith, edleafe it's just that I don't actually like the encoded query string :) | 17:47 |
| cburgess | dansmith I feel like a need a hat or pin that says "High Level Orchestration Service" that I wear around the summits... | 17:47 |
| dansmith | cburgess: hah | 17:47 |
| bauzas | given we would like to get the RPs, I think we could just saying that we would return the document and adding a list of RPs as an item | 17:47 |
| cdent | but yeah, if its the only way. but really, at this point, I think I've done what I can | 17:47 |
| bauzas | if so, that could be a PUT or PATCH :) | 17:47 |
| edleafe | cdent: it's a tinier bit more consistent with the existing GET semantics, but yeah, no biggie | 17:48 |
| bauzas | I prefer PUT | 17:48 |
| cdent | bauzas: I'm not understanding | 17:48 |
| bauzas | say we would PUT /resource_document, we could be returning the same document but with a list of RPs | 17:48 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: no. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7231#section-4.3.4 | 17:49 |
| edleafe | bauzas: we aren't creating or replacing anything | 17:49 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: so PATCH https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5789#section-2 | 17:51 |
| bauzas | "If the Request-URI does not point to an existing resource, the server MAY create a new resource, depending on the patch document type (whether it can logically modify a null resource) and permissions, etc." | 17:51 |
| bauzas | tbc, my bike is having a white color | 17:51 |
| edleafe | It seems we are going to great lengths to avoid query strings. I really don't understand the aversion. | 17:52 |
| bauzas | given dansmith thought about POST /request originally, can we agree with him but maybe using PATCH then ? | 17:54 |
| bauzas | so all of us should be good | 17:54 |
| bauzas | because | 17:54 |
| alaski | edleafe: my concerns are that whether or not it seems like the length limit will be hit, it's still a constraint that can be easily avoided by using POST. And JSON in a request body is much easier for me to form and parse than query strings, as well as avoiding the representation issues that come up like the recent time posting on the ML | 17:54 |
| cdent | PATCH makes no sense at all | 17:54 |
| bauzas | cdent: dansmith had an idea that I like where you're passing a doc that is amended in return | 17:55 |
| bauzas | cdent: where you're getting the list of RPs in that document as an extra item | 17:55 |
| edleafe | alaski: sure, I would be fine with POST - that was my second preference | 17:55 |
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| melwitt | I don't have an aversion to query strings in general, but a json blob that has to be encoded for the url that we expect could be overlength seems less than ideal | 17:55 |
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| cdent | bauzas: that sounds an incredible stretch when there are much simpler options on the table: ask for a filtered list of resource providers, get a list of resource providers back | 17:56 |
| edleafe | alaski: I will be writing up a guideline for the API WG on this topic. I'll post the review here when it's ready | 17:56 |
| edleafe | alaski: Any and all feedback will be welcome, since this will influence all of OpenStack. | 17:56 |
| mriedem | hmm, i think if you try to create an instance with image that has hw_watchdog_action='disabled' it's going to blow up | 17:57 |
| mriedem | because https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/fields.py#L383 | 17:58 |
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| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/13.0.0/etc/metadefs/compute-watchdog.json#L25 | 17:58 |
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| mriedem | kablammo | 17:58 |
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| mriedem | do we have anything offically stating what takes precedence when you have a matching flavor extra spec and image property? | 17:59 |
| mriedem | is it always flavor extra specs over image meta? | 18:00 |
| mriedem | err vice versa | 18:00 |
| alaski | edleafe: sure | 18:01 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I'm not sure when this change was made, but has the move to using the keystone requests wrapper thing eliminated our ability to get useful error messages out of failed requests? | 18:01 |
| dansmith | mriedem: like, I see "Connection Failed" instead of refused, timed out, etc | 18:01 |
| mriedem | dansmith: the tls failure in the gate talking to neutron? | 18:02 |
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| mriedem | i've been wondering about that also | 18:02 |
| dansmith | mriedem: no, something else, but I've seen it in gate fail logs in the past recently | 18:02 |
| alaski | mriedem: I think precedence is stated in a spec somewhere. I don't know if it made it to user facing docs | 18:02 |
| dansmith | stevemar: any idea? | 18:03 |
| alaski | mriedem: nvm, I'm not seeing it in any spec | 18:04 |
| mriedem | ok...because it's inconsistent in the code for sure | 18:04 |
| mriedem | some places, like the hyperv secure boot stuff, actually checks both and if they are both specified but are conflicting it's an error | 18:05 |
| mriedem | otherwise they give precedence to image meta even if flavor extra specs is something different | 18:05 |
| melwitt | alaski, mriedem: this spec says image will override flavor https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/juno/implemented/virt-driver-vcpu-topology.html but I think each feature is separate behavior/spec | 18:05 |
| mriedem | i guess the idea being, | 18:06 |
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| mriedem | flavors are admin-only, | 18:06 |
| mriedem | but a user can update/modify an image | 18:06 |
| mriedem | so the user can customize the image/behavior and should get precedence? | 18:06 |
| alaski | melwitt: ahh, that's what I was thinking of | 18:06 |
| alaski | The idea was that a flavor sets a max size, and an image can choose to consume less than that if desired | 18:07 |
| alaski | but for binary options it could be different I guess | 18:07 |
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| mriedem | would be nice if we could get something into the devref about how we should deal with image meta/flavor extra specs in code | 18:12 |
| mriedem | what takes precedence, do we check for conflicts and if so are those errors, etc | 18:12 |
| mriedem | but it hurts my brain just thinking about | 18:13 |
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| sdague | dansmith: do you have a link to where these connection failures are? | 18:19 |
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| dansmith | sdague: I was looking at a non-public log, but they're on anythign where we try to connect to neutron and fail for any reason | 18:19 |
| dansmith | sdague: let me see if I can find something in logstash | 18:20 |
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| dansmith | sdague: http://logstash.openstack.org/#dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=message%3A%5C%22ConnectFailure%3A%20Unable%20to%20establish%20connection%20to%5C%22%20AND%20filename%3A%5C%22logs%2Fnew%2Fscreen-n-cpu.txt%5C%22 | 18:22 |
| dansmith | sdague: the logs are gone now, but those hits look exactly like what I was seeing | 18:22 |
| dansmith | sdague: you see the big traceback with a completely generic "Unable to establish connection", but no "connection refused" or "timed out" or "no route to host" etc | 18:23 |
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| stevemar | dansmith: hmmm? reading up | 18:24 |
| stevemar | "keystone requests wrapper thing" eh | 18:24 |
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| sdague | dansmith: ok, so at least in the first case there, neutron is actually not up | 18:25 |
| stevemar | i'm not sure what you're referring to? | 18:25 |
| sdague | stevemar: keystoneauth1 | 18:25 |
| dansmith | sdague: sure, but.. we can't tell that from the log | 18:25 |
| stevemar | ah the ksc->ksa transition | 18:25 |
| dansmith | sdague: like, should be connection refused in that case | 18:25 |
| mriedem | dansmith: sdague: http://status.openstack.org//elastic-recheck/index.html#1630664 | 18:26 |
| dansmith | sdague: the non-public case I was looking at a bit ago, I *know* neutron is up and I get the exact same message | 18:26 |
| dansmith | mriedem: you know I'm talking about the lack of information, not the cause right? | 18:26 |
| mriedem | yes | 18:27 |
| dansmith | okay :) | 18:27 |
| mriedem | i can't say the ksa change did it though | 18:27 |
| mriedem | i just know we started seeing that upstream when TLS was turned on | 18:27 |
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| dansmith | well, before we used to not have keystoneclient in the trace at all, as far as I know | 18:27 |
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| sdague | dansmith: a long time ago, the ksa transition happened a while ago I thought | 18:29 |
| sdague | it looks like this is the exception translation going on - https://github.com/openstack/keystoneauth/blob/e1bf1f0e83981c9b908215a13a85e553c5c556b1/keystoneauth1/session.py#L634 | 18:29 |
| dansmith | sdague: we used to get useful things like this: TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 15ea3971-aeaa-48b7-b0cf-15be3cd5fe6b] RequestTimeout: Request to http://10.106.104.204:9696/v2.0/ports.json timed out (HTTP 408) | 18:29 |
| sdague | dansmith: that's a different error | 18:30 |
| sdague | that wouldn't be this error | 18:30 |
| sdague | https://github.com/openstack/keystoneauth/blob/e1bf1f0e83981c9b908215a13a85e553c5c556b1/keystoneauth1/session.py#L625-L640 | 18:30 |
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| sdague | dansmith: are you going through a TLS proxy for these connects? | 18:31 |
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| dansmith | sdague: through HAProxy, which is where I suspect the problem is, but need details about what is going on | 18:31 |
| dansmith | sdague: so you're saying there that timeout is called out, but "no route to host" and "connection refused" would be collapsed into that one ConnectFailure right? | 18:32 |
| dansmith | so that is 30% helpful | 18:32 |
| dansmith | but the other two things mean something pretty different :) | 18:32 |
| sdague | timeout definitely has a dedicated exception | 18:32 |
| sdague | I don't know what was generating the no route to host error before | 18:32 |
| dansmith | not passing on the message from the actual requests exception is uncool | 18:33 |
| dansmith | sdague: well, I'm guessing requests puts either of those in ConnectionError, but the string message means something | 18:33 |
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| sdague | yeh, I'm looking at the requests code right now to see if there is a clearer way to do this | 18:34 |
| dansmith | they don't have a separate exception that I can see | 18:34 |
| dansmith | we just need to preserve the msg I think | 18:34 |
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| dansmith | sdague: see this for exampl: http://pastebin.com/jzDmdyv9 | 18:35 |
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| sdague | ah, so it looks like that's actually the message on the SocketError | 18:38 |
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| dansmith | yeah | 18:38 |
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| dansmith | sdague: so the problem here is that these two errors are conflated, and they mean almost opposite things | 18:39 |
| dansmith | sdague: one means "I can talk to that host, but the port isn't open, service is not running" and the other usually means "I can't even ARP for that address homey" | 18:39 |
| gsilvis | Where is there more information on this line from the Mitaka release notes: "The old neutron communication options that were slated for removal in Mitaka are no longer available. This means that going forward communication to neutron will need to be configured using auth plugins." | 18:39 |
| sdague | dansmith: right, though to be fair, they are conflated in urllib3... we just lose the message during translation | 18:39 |
| dansmith | the latter can also mean "the service is running, but the firewall said no" | 18:40 |
| dansmith | sdague: sure I know | 18:40 |
| sdague | I think I can do a narrow patchfor it | 18:40 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: I would definitely be opposed to PATCH. It makes no sense for this. | 18:40 |
| knikolla | hey all. does nova support multiple ceph backends for volumes? | 18:41 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: okay, I just try to find a solution for the problem :) | 18:41 |
| bauzas | to be clear, all, I'm really not opiniated either way | 18:41 |
| bauzas | my only concern would be for a POST /RPs | 18:41 |
| bauzas | but all the other solutions are fine by me | 18:42 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: anyway, I'm working rather on the call for checking the inventories | 18:42 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: I think I could just use _check_capacity_exceeded() | 18:42 |
| dansmith | sdague: a patch for keystoneclient right? | 18:42 |
| sdague | dansmith: keystoneauth | 18:43 |
| dansmith | yeah that | 18:43 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: what do you mean by working on the call for checking the inventories? | 18:43 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/386143 | 18:43 |
| dansmith | :) | 18:43 |
| cdent | bauzas: I thought were going to divide the work up: me on the api side, you on the schedulre side. I haven't started anything, so it's fine, but I want to be sure we don't duplicate | 18:43 |
| dansmith | keystone.* | 18:44 |
| sdague | stevemar: https://review.openstack.org/386143 if you have a sec | 18:44 |
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| bauzas | cdent: I'm just writing the patch for calling ResourceProvidersList.get_all_by_filters() | 18:44 |
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| bauzas | cdent: which would call something like _check_capacity_exceeded() for getting the list of RPs that can support the quert | 18:45 |
| bauzas | query | 18:45 |
| stevemar | sdague: rgr | 18:45 |
| dansmith | stevemar: I have +1ed said patch, so merging is mandatory | 18:45 |
| sdague | because dansmith is a BFD | 18:45 |
| dansmith | sdague: the only character in that acronym that is correct is 'F' | 18:46 |
| stevemar | dansmith: i accept bribes in the form of skittles, otherwise i won't even look at it | 18:46 |
| dansmith | stevemar: I will prime now you a bag of skittles | 18:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Drop deprecated support for hw_watchdog_action flavor extra spec https://review.openstack.org/386145 | 18:47 |
| mriedem | melwitt: you might enjoy ^ | 18:47 |
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| melwitt | a-ha, nice | 18:48 |
| cdent | bauzas: i think the idea is to make one single, performant sql query, a new one to resolve the question | 18:48 |
| bauzas | cdent: lemme write the POC and you'll see | 18:48 |
| cdent | ok | 18:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova: Using get() method to prevent KeyError https://review.openstack.org/359424 | 18:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated use_usb_tablet config option https://review.openstack.org/385683 | 19:06 |
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| jaypipes | cdent, edleafe: when you say "query-string encoded request on resource-providers", are you referring to base64-encoding a JSON blob into a single query string parameter, or are you referring to just having additional qs parameters matching names like "resources" and "traits"? | 19:14 |
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| cdent | jaypipes: edleafe is proposing encoded json, I prefer a "native" set of qs parameters | 19:15 |
| jaypipes | cdent, edleafe: and edleafe is proposing the encoded json because of qs length limitations or for some other reason? | 19:15 |
| * cdent looks at edleafe | 19:16 | |
| mriedem | tjones-: browne: vmware nsx ci appears to be failing again on everything | 19:16 |
| mriedem | http://208.91.1.172/logs/ext-nova-dsvm/386107/1/625/tempest_results.html.gz | 19:16 |
| cdent | I don't know | 19:16 |
| * edleafe is on a call - will chime in in a few | 19:16 | |
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| browne | @mriedem: thanks. let me bug our infra guy again | 19:19 |
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| edleafe | jaypipes: cdent: ok, here's the deal. bauzas mentioned that there is an existing GET /rp call that currently takes two possible filter values: name and uuid, passed in a QS. To modify this with as little disruption as possible, I proposed adding a third filter value: "resources" | 19:30 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: cdent: since "resources" would represent the request spec, it would be a dict of {resource_class: amount} | 19:31 |
| edleafe | To pass a dict in a qs, I proposed JASON-ifying it | 19:31 |
| edleafe | s/JASON/JSON | 19:31 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: and you wanted to encode that into a single qs param called "resources". correct? | 19:31 |
| edleafe | This would also allow another filter to be added later: "traits" | 19:32 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: simple example | 19:33 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: k. and you preferred that JSON-encoded strategy versus, say, what I'd originally put down with multiple resource=XXX:AMOUNT values? | 19:33 |
| edleafe | assume the request spec was {"VCPU": 1, "MEMORY_MB": 1024} | 19:33 |
| edleafe | THen we'd do json_spec = json.dumps({"VCPU": 1, "MEMORY_MB": 1024}) | 19:34 |
| edleafe | followed by GET /rp?resources=%s % json_spec | 19:34 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: I thought your multiple values was fine, but was trying to address bauzas's concern about the existing GET /rp API | 19:35 |
| bauzas | edleafe: yeah, I wouldn't like a list of parameters, only one | 19:36 |
| bauzas | in case we agree on that | 19:36 |
| cdent | it makes sense to me that name, uuid and jay's format can play together | 19:36 |
| bauzas | but it seems most of others don't like this | 19:36 |
| bauzas | anyway, I'm very close to providing a DNM | 19:36 |
| edleafe | cdent: sure, but jay's will be longer due to repetition. We might hit the 8,000 char limit!!!! | 19:37 |
| cdent | edleafe: heh, if a spec passes that limit, it will take infinite time to resolve and return no resource providers, so let's just set a lower limit anyway | 19:38 |
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| jaypipes | edleafe: we definitely will if you use more than the required single exclamation point. | 19:39 |
| mriedem | dansmith: sdague: alaski: johnthetubaguy: i've been thinking about this slot for the summit https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/16977/nova-documentation-needed-for-newton and maybe replacing it with something else, | 19:39 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: :P | 19:39 |
| mriedem | we have a few specs up that are related to security type things, like secure consoles, image signing and cert validation | 19:40 |
| edleafe | jaypipes: sorry, I couldn't contain my horror! | 19:40 |
| dansmith | mriedem: fine with me.. I will need a nap slot anyway | 19:40 |
| mriedem | i'm wondering if it'd be a better use of time to have a single session, especially with danpb being at the summit, to do that instead | 19:40 |
| jaypipes | edleafe: it's OK!!!! | 19:40 |
| mriedem | also, none of that stuff is tested in the gate | 19:40 |
| mriedem | dane-fichter has been looking at a security job | 19:41 |
| mriedem | oh yeah, that would include running barbican for key management | 19:41 |
| mriedem | dhellmann: do i get punched by ttx if i change one of the nova design sessions at this point? | 19:41 |
| dhellmann | mriedem : I don't think so? Do you mean change the subject/description or do you want to reschedule it? | 19:42 |
| mriedem | just the topic, same time slot | 19:42 |
| dansmith | mriedem: pretty sure ttx is non-violent | 19:42 |
| sdague | mriedem: yeh, using it for the security related items sounds like a good idea | 19:43 |
| dansmith | mriedem: more likely you just find your registration revoked after a long trip to BCN | 19:43 |
| sdague | the docs discussion can really happen offline | 19:43 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: that's not all bad | 19:43 |
| mriedem | sdague: yeah or friday meeting | 19:43 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah :) | 19:43 |
| morgan | sdague: +2/+A on your keystoneauth connection change. | 19:43 |
| morgan | sdague: btw. | 19:43 |
| sdague | morgan: thank you | 19:43 |
| morgan | sdague: np. | 19:43 |
| sdague | morgan / stevemar: how soon could we get that released to the world? | 19:43 |
| dansmith | morgan: stevemar so the question will be, can we backport that a bit? | 19:43 |
| mriedem | sdague: i'm assuming release on monday | 19:44 |
| dansmith | i.e. do we do stable releases of that? | 19:44 |
| mriedem | dansmith: we can | 19:44 |
| mriedem | sure | 19:44 |
| mriedem | propose the backport | 19:44 |
| morgan | sdague: i personally have no issue with a point release for that once it lands (today or monday) | 19:44 |
| mriedem | it'll go in a patch release | 19:44 |
| dhellmann | mriedem : that seems like it's something you should be able to change. I expect ttx will revoke your edit rights when the schedule really does need to be locked down. | 19:44 |
| stevemar | we can do a stable release, yes, and we can release asap | 19:44 |
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| morgan | the backport for keystoneauth would be fine. | 19:44 |
| dansmith | mriedem: okay | 19:44 |
| sdague | stevemar / morgan - great | 19:44 |
| sdague | I can do the backport proposal now | 19:44 |
| sdague | I've got the tree checked out | 19:45 |
| stevemar | sdague: click the cherry-pick button in gerrit? | 19:45 |
| morgan | sdague: please propose the backport, once this lands i'll +2 it | 19:45 |
| sdague | stevemar: or that :) | 19:45 |
| dansmith | sdague: I was just about to do it | 19:45 |
| stevemar | :P | 19:45 |
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| sdague | dansmith: do you only need it in stable/newton, or earlier? | 19:45 |
| stevemar | sdague: i'll propose the releases, dansmith can see if he can bribe someone from the release team :P | 19:45 |
| morgan | if we can land it before release folks are checked out... thursday is good for a release... if we can't my guess is next week early | 19:46 |
| dansmith | sdague: newton wouldn't help me, but neither would liberty.. I just figured back to mitaka since it's still kindof a thing | 19:46 |
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| sdague | dansmith: ok, well I think we probably need to go backwards down the chain | 19:46 |
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| sdague | I proposed to newton | 19:46 |
| morgan | sdague: yep | 19:46 |
| sdague | you can take it earlier if you want | 19:47 |
| morgan | sdague: feel free to propose to mitaka as well | 19:47 |
| dansmith | sdague: okay | 19:47 |
| morgan | we can do both the stable backports once master lands | 19:47 |
| sdague | cool, thanks everyone for acting quick on thins | 19:47 |
| sdague | this | 19:47 |
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| morgan | np. keystoneauth doesn't see a lot of activity usually | 19:47 |
| morgan | so i try and keep my eyes on it | 19:47 |
| morgan | usally bug fixes end up being super critical | 19:48 |
| morgan | or at least serious quality of life needs | 19:48 |
| ttx | mriedem: you can still change currently | 19:48 |
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| stevemar | morgan: keystoneclient has turned into a ghost town | 19:48 |
| ttx | I don't plan to freeze anything, but yes, changing anything next week is likely to screw people up | 19:49 |
| morgan | stevemar: yep. | 19:49 |
| stevemar | auth seems more activity than the rest | 19:49 |
| morgan | stevemar: well auth is also super stable | 19:49 |
| morgan | stevemar: there still isn't much going on in it. | 19:49 |
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| mriedem | ttx: thanks | 19:51 |
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| stevemar | dansmith: sdague: release topic: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:ksa-connection-bug | 19:53 |
| stevemar | i need to update the hashes based on the merge commit, so they're not ready quite yet | 19:54 |
| dansmith | stevemar: thanks | 19:54 |
| mikal | Morning | 19:56 |
| cburgess | mikal No you slacker its afternoon | 19:56 |
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| mikal | Heh | 19:57 |
| dansmith | cburgess: mikal saying it's morning is *how* I know it's afternoon | 19:57 |
| mikal | Ok, nap time then | 19:57 |
| cburgess | mikal dansmith has an idea that I signed you up to help me implement for Boston. dansmith do you want to explain? | 19:57 |
| cburgess | dansmith lol | 19:57 |
| mikal | Does it involve a bulldozer? | 19:57 |
| dansmith | cburgess: like a long-incorrect clock you know to subtract 3h22m from to get the right time, but refuse to set | 19:57 |
| cburgess | dansmith That seems overly specific | 19:57 |
| cburgess | mikal No... not exactly | 19:57 |
| dansmith | mikal: we need a trucker hat, with "Make_______ great again" where ____ is a velcro patch, and included are a bunch of openstack projects (including all the dead ones like quantum and n-net) | 19:58 |
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| cburgess | and/or other cloud/openstack related things | 19:58 |
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| mikal | Oh, I totally know a company who could make that thing | 19:59 |
| cburgess | mikal perfect...lets discuss... | 19:59 |
| dansmith | mikal: I thought that sounded like a cburgess high-level task sort of thing (like donuts) and he delegated to you | 19:59 |
| cburgess | mikal Wait is this company in AUS? | 19:59 |
| mikal | cburgess: yes, it will be about $400 a hat | 19:59 |
| cburgess | dansmith Oh wow thats even worse now I'm just the donut guy. | 19:59 |
| cburgess | mikal :( | 19:59 |
| mriedem | sdague: someone removed the use_glance_v1 option right? | 19:59 |
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| mikal | So... Is Trump still funny though? | 20:00 |
| dansmith | cburgess: donut guy is a popular guy | 20:00 |
| mikal | I think he's passed peak funny | 20:00 |
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| dansmith | mikal: I think | 20:00 |
| dansmith | mikal: make "foo" great again will outlive trump | 20:00 |
| cburgess | dansmith As long as I'm still popular. After all thats the only reason I participate in upstream is to be popular. :P | 20:00 |
| dansmith | cburgess: *nod* | 20:01 |
| cburgess | I'm actually hopeful that the new midcycle strucutre might allow me to attend those more offend. Now if only I could get my boss to let me work on upstream like I used to.. /sigh | 20:01 |
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| cburgess | more offend.. wow.. how true that is... | 20:02 |
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| morgan | dansmith: just buy the non-official "make america great" hat and stick velcro over "america" and make your own patches, will be less than $400 / hat | 20:04 |
| morgan | dansmith: :P | 20:04 |
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| mikal | Oh, I wont be coming to the PTG BTW | 20:04 |
| mikal | You're welcome | 20:04 |
| dansmith | mikal: really? | 20:04 |
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| * morgan doesn't know if mikal was joking on price, now that i re-read it. | 20:04 | |
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| mikal | dansmith: yeah, it clashes with son 2's birthday | 20:05 |
| dansmith | mikal: so why aren't you coming? | 20:05 |
| mikal | dansmith: and flying the family to the PTG isn't cost effective | 20:05 |
| mikal | dansmith: I am optomising for him picking a good nursing home for me | 20:05 |
| morgan | mikal: i wont be at "OpenStack: The Gathering" either. but your reason is better | 20:05 |
| dansmith | mikal: you have more sons and more birthdays right? | 20:05 |
| dansmith | mikal: haha | 20:05 |
| mikal | Heh | 20:05 |
| * mikal realizes the nova meeting isn't for an hour | 20:05 | |
| tjones- | mriedem: looks like an intermittent failure. someone is looking into it | 20:05 |
| mikal | I can get out of PJs! | 20:05 |
| mriedem | tjones-: ok | 20:06 |
| tjones- | im rechecking that one and looking at the queue | 20:06 |
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| cburgess | mikal :( I was looking forward to mis-adventures in the ATL again... | 20:07 |
| mikal | Sorry | 20:07 |
| * mikal goes to be a responsible adult pre-meeting | 20:09 | |
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| auggy | i'm having a problem with ServersPreSchedulingTestCase functional tests due to a microversion incompatibility and i'm not sure what the best way forward is | 20:17 |
| auggy | http://logs.openstack.org/97/329697/43/check/gate-nova-tox-db-functional-ubuntu-xenial/348bbd3/testr_results.html.gz | 20:17 |
| auggy | Here's the problem: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/functional/wsgi/test_servers.py#L55 | 20:17 |
| auggy | the error I'm getting is that the "networks" field needs to be an array | 20:17 |
| auggy | normally i'd create a new microversioned version of the test, but this uses "latest" as the api version | 20:18 |
| auggy | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/functional/wsgi/test_servers.py#L45 | 20:18 |
| auggy | so one option is to set that api version to the latest one that accepted a string for "networks" | 20:18 |
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| auggy | instead of latest... and then create a v239 test that uses "latest"... and then the next person has to change it when they change something in the body | 20:19 |
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| auggy | i really don't like this approach so I'd like to hear other options :) | 20:20 |
| alaski | auggy: that test class doesn't need to continue testing old microversions. Just update network to what it needs to be for 2.latest | 20:20 |
| auggy | alaski: ok cool, wasn't sure how "latest" would work in tempest and places that check for integrated backwards compatibility | 20:21 |
| alaski | for these tests latest will only check against one version. the tests won't be run against an older 'latest' | 20:22 |
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| auggy | alaski: alright.. that should be obvious but i guess i've been in api sample test land too long.. hahaha | 20:22 |
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| alaski | documentation should be added to the class explaining that. the tests there are really not about the API at all, the API is just the entry point for testing what happens before conductor | 20:24 |
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| cburgess | morgan No mikal isn't joking about the cost. Everything costs like 10x in australlia. | 20:25 |
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| morgan | cburgess: then we have a better method for making said velco hats :P | 20:26 |
| morgan | and way less pricy. | 20:26 |
| cburgess | morgan Indeed | 20:26 |
| cburgess | I more wanted mikal's humor | 20:26 |
| EmilienM | hi nova, any chance to have a review on this doc patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381838/ thanks! | 20:26 |
| morgan | cburgess: maybe we should ship these hats to mikal... annnnnyway i'm going back under my rock. | 20:28 |
| openstackgerrit | ayoung proposed openstack/nova: Admin API policy enforcement contingent on is_admin_project https://review.openstack.org/384148 | 20:28 |
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| mriedem | EmilienM: done | 20:31 |
| EmilienM | mriedem: thank you | 20:31 |
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| auggy | alaski: alright i added a note per your suggestion | 20:36 |
| auggy | thanks!! | 20:36 |
| alaski | auggy: cool, thanks | 20:37 |
| sdague | mriedem: yes the glance_v1 option remove was earlier in the week | 20:38 |
| mriedem | sdague: ok, so we can drop that entire set of code and tests for glance v1 now in nova.image.glance right? | 20:38 |
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| sdague | mriedem: yes, I think so | 20:42 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384991/ was the merged patch | 20:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova: api-ref: Fix 'id' (attachment_id) parameters https://review.openstack.org/349863 | 20:42 |
| sdague | there may be more cleanup required, but it seemed good to get that one in | 20:43 |
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| mriedem | jroll: let the 2nd +2 lobbying begin https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328157/ | 20:49 |
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| jroll | mriedem: nice, you rock | 20:51 |
| * jroll looks around for people that care about ironic, hi alaski :) | 20:51 | |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Add 'disabled' to WatchdogAction field https://review.openstack.org/386221 | 20:51 |
| alaski | jroll: heh. I'll take a look | 20:52 |
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| jroll | alaski: no rush, but thank you :) | 20:52 |
| mikal | Does https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382588/6 look weird to anyone else? | 20:52 |
| mikal | Gerrit shows me a 1 line patch, but there's nothing merged already | 20:53 |
| alaski | looks odd to me as well | 20:54 |
| mikal | But its not chained with another patch | 20:54 |
| melwitt | yeah, something is weird with PS6 | 20:54 |
| mikal | I am confused basically | 20:54 |
| mriedem | jroll: oomichi actually reviewed that a bit | 20:54 |
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| jroll | mriedem: ah yeah, true | 20:54 |
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| melwitt | the unified diff shows it as the entire doc on one line | 20:55 |
| mikal | Oh, so weird line breaks perhaps? | 20:55 |
| melwitt | seems like it | 20:55 |
| mriedem | carriage returns | 20:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Edmonds proposed openstack/nova: Policy enforcement contingent on is_admin_project https://review.openstack.org/384148 | 20:56 |
| cburgess | mriedem eww thats ugly | 20:56 |
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| mriedem | nova meeting rfn | 20:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: fix admin context scenarios for cinderclient https://review.openstack.org/384799 | 21:27 |
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| tonyb | mriedem, thorst: I'd really like to be at the unconference session re powervm | 21:35 |
| mriedem | tonyb: i'd really like to have you there | 21:36 |
| adreznec | tonyb: The more the merrier | 21:36 |
| mriedem | tonyb: https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/16933/nova-unconference | 21:36 |
| melwitt | alaski: I was just reading the scheduling interaction spec. on the work item to add another conductor to devstack, does that mean even though devstack is setting up a single cell deployment, we'll get two conductors? | 21:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Return a list of RPs that would support resources https://review.openstack.org/386242 | 21:37 |
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| alaski | melwitt: yes. We could share a single conductor for that though. We just need to decide if we want a minimal install or better testing by isolating them | 21:38 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: just wrote the POC re: the API call for GET /RPs | 21:38 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: https://review.openstack.org/386242 (and dansmith too) | 21:38 |
| bauzas | of course, the API surface will change once we all agree with the direction | 21:39 |
| thorst | tonyb: sounds good | 21:39 |
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| melwitt | alaski: I see. I'm concerned about a potentially confusing install, for the single cell case. I'm wondering if (when multi cell is fully functional) if we'll have something like a devstack local.conf variable that indicates single cell or multi cell install | 21:40 |
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| alaski | melwitt: have you read the next spec in that series? :) | 21:41 |
| melwitt | because we have a similar issue with message queue single cell vs multi cell. with single cell I think we want only one, otherwise it's weird | 21:41 |
| melwitt | uh, not in detail. my bad | 21:41 |
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| alaski | melwitt: well, I didn't consider the next spec when I wrote the work items so they might be odd. I can certainly change it if there are concerns | 21:43 |
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| melwitt | alaski: I just imagine it being very weird for another conductor to show up in the single cell devstack, imagining folks out there using devstack for development/debugging. and if there's a way we can configure 'multi cell' in devstack and use that for our test job, that would be best | 21:45 |
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| alaski | melwitt: yep, makes sense. I'll address dansmiths concern and update that work item. | 21:46 |
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| melwitt | alaski: okay. I don't want to mess up our ability to test things properly, so if there's not a reasonable way to get that, then maybe it's worth the confusion | 21:47 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: I was hoping to just build a single SQL query and not do the filtering on the Python side... | 21:49 |
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| alaski | melwitt: I don't think there's much worry about violating the isolation between api and cell conductors, just something I was trying to guard against because we could. But I'm not sure it outweighs the convenience of a simple install | 21:50 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: you mean the fact that we lookup each of the RPs? | 21:50 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: correct. we should just return the resource provider records that match a set of WHERE conditions. | 21:51 |
| melwitt | alaski: gotcha | 21:51 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: that sounds doable | 21:51 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: I don't see why we are continuing to loop through usage_map items when we could do all the logic of determining if a resource provider meets a resource request by constructing a WHERE clause. | 21:52 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: yeah possibly | 21:52 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: I need to reboot my SQL skills but that sounds doable | 21:53 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: I actuallty went down the easy road by reusing the existing calls | 21:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated compute_available_monitors option https://review.openstack.org/371062 | 21:53 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: which were looping in memory over all the allocations | 21:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova-specs: Proposal for cells v2 scheduling interaction https://review.openstack.org/381275 | 21:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova-specs: Conductor deployment options in cellsv2 https://review.openstack.org/383419 | 21:54 |
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| alaski | melwitt: dansmith updated ^ | 21:54 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: the difference is that the approach from _check_capacity_exceeded() loops on a very small number of records (a single record for each resource class a selected provider has inventory for) whereas the approach you've taken here will return every resource provider and inventory record in the system on every call to the proposed new REST API. | 21:57 |
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| bauzas | yup, that's far larger, I agree | 21:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova-specs: Conductor deployment options in cellsv2 https://review.openstack.org/383419 | 21:58 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: the benefit of your approach is that we could do fine-grained logging at the expense of it being less efficient. | 21:58 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: agreed, for example the current scheduler implementation uses a generator | 21:58 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: so, in all, I'm OK with this approach for now but I'd definitely want to optimize it later. | 21:58 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: honestly, it's worth try to add a SQL statement | 21:59 |
| bauzas | I think I have the idea | 21:59 |
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| bauzas | I have everything I want in the big join | 21:59 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: it's cool, I can hack away at a SQL solution at a later time. | 22:01 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: better I guess to get something working and demo-able for the summit. | 22:01 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: I think the WHERE clause is kinda easy to write, I can do that tomorrow morning | 22:01 |
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| bauzas | I just need to modify the workflow to inject that clause earlier | 22:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova: Remove config option snapshot_name_template https://review.openstack.org/371203 | 22:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova: Detach volume from live domain before persistent domain https://review.openstack.org/386257 | 22:25 |
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| oomichi | sdague: alaski: alex_xu_: can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385200/ ? That is an easy one for fixing HTTP 500 error | 22:37 |
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| jlk | alaski: You're going to hate me. Your previous comment said that even if a cell conductor is handling API level conducting, it wouldn't need access to API level db (particularly since there is no way to configure it to write to multiple DBs). But the change you just put up says "cell level conductors should not require access to the API database unless they are also API level conductors". That conflicts... | 22:45 |
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| tjones- | mriedem the patches are passing now at least they have been for the last couple of hours | 23:15 |
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