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| auggy | maaaan i hate when you think you pushed a change and it's just been sitting there this whole time waiting for you to indicate if you wanted to push any associated changes... dagnabbit | 00:05 |
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| alaski | jlk: what I meant was that if you have a cell with it's own conductors those conductors do not need to write to the api db. However if those conductors do not belong to the cell, because they're shared with the api then they may need to write to the api db. | 00:17 |
| alaski | it's still not communication up. It's just that if you have api conductors in a cell then they need to write to the api db | 00:17 |
| jlk | alaski: okay, that'swhat I was trying to ask earlier | 00:18 |
| jlk | alaski: is there already a method in nova.conf to express multiple DB connections then? one for cell, one for api? | 00:19 |
| melwitt | each nova.conf has one DB connection setting to its own local DB and in the API DB there are CellMapping records that each contain the connection information for that cell | 00:21 |
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| alaski | jlk: okay, I didn't catch that earlier | 00:22 |
| jlk | oh, so [api_database] that points to where the API level stuff is. | 00:22 |
| alaski | yeah | 00:22 |
| jlk | adn then cells_config points to one or more cells | 00:23 |
| jlk | and there is no direct configuration of the database to read at the cell level, that comes from the API db? | 00:24 |
| melwitt | ah, sorry. that's right, every nova.conf has a connection setting for the API DB | 00:24 |
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| alaski | [database] would point at the cell db for the conductor in each cell | 00:26 |
| alaski | and when a conductor needs to talk to a cell for a call from the api then it would consult the db for cellmapping | 00:27 |
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| jlk | that section isn't documented in Newton at least | 00:27 |
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| alaski | [database] isn't documented? that section has been there forever | 00:34 |
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| jlk | Huh, looks like scheduler_host_manager dropped out of documentation somehow | 00:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated use_usb_tablet config option https://review.openstack.org/385683 | 01:39 |
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| alex_xu_ | oomichi: just done | 02:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/nova: Add ability to view quota details for project owner https://review.openstack.org/386008 | 05:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/386369 | 05:40 |
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| namnh | Hi everyone. Currently, Nova supported rolling-upgrade. Do you know any tools to ensure that there is no problem during upgrade? | 08:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrea Visnyei proposed openstack/nova: WIP: example verification of security groups. https://review.openstack.org/386455 | 08:20 |
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| GreenBlood | I'm having a weird issue using the python SDK (and with nova) is this the right place to ask ? I've got to pieces of code creating an instance and one of them does not applies security groups | 08:38 |
| GreenBlood | Even though the variable used is the same (A list of one value, the name of the secgroup) | 08:38 |
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| sfinucan | Any chance I could get a +W on this (rather large, but ultimately trivial) patch before it merge conflicts again? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349959/ | 09:14 |
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| sfinucan | GreenBlood: #openstack is the place to go :) | 10:10 |
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| GreenBlood | sfinucan: you guys are telling me to go on #openstack, they told me to come here | 10:19 |
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| GreenBlood | #openstack-sdks people told me to come here in the first place | 10:20 |
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| GreenBlood | soooo well. | 10:20 |
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| prateek | GreenBlood, #openstack is used for support, more often than not you would be redirected from here for support related questions :) | 10:28 |
| prateek | for your problem i just checked there is nothing as simple_logging present in shade | 10:29 |
| prateek | so the example might be old and that is why it does not work | 10:29 |
| GreenBlood | Eeeeh my issue has nothing to do with simple_logging | 10:29 |
| GreenBlood | nvm il dig the code as always | 10:30 |
| GreenBlood | i'll* | 10:30 |
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| prateek | ok | 10:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: DON'T MERGE: debug change 334480/17 https://review.openstack.org/386037 | 10:59 |
| cdent | johnthetubaguy: this seem reasonable to you? some uxsuccess tests in gabbi cause issues in other (downstream) testing environments and they don't really do much in upstream so this proposes removal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386101/ | 11:01 |
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| sahid | jaypipes: you might have not see my comment here, in that case: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356335/ :) | 11:44 |
| alex_xu_ | cdent: jaypipes dansmith edleafe I have one more idea for get /reosurce_providers at line 166 of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-request-providers | 11:46 |
| cdent | alex_xu_: yeah, there are already plans for that location, as the comment before your on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385618/ says | 11:47 |
| cdent | the process of requesting and claiming is going to be unified in one request, eventually | 11:48 |
| alex_xu_ | cdent: ah, just saw that one, let me reading | 11:49 |
| cdent | we need to make sure we separate the complex things that will happen in the allocations namespace from the simpler things that happen in /resource_providers | 11:50 |
| cdent | it is just a simple query, we should represent it as such | 11:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julian proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.snapshot notifications https://review.openstack.org/330128 | 11:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Simona Iuliana Toader proposed openstack/nova-specs: Hyper-V PCI Passthrough spec https://review.openstack.org/384867 | 12:01 |
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| alex_xu_ | cdent: you mean teh final goal is the process of requesting and claiming is going to be unified. The "GET /resource_providers?by=some:criteria" is just for match the current model of scheduler? | 12:04 |
| alex_xu_ | s/teh/the | 12:04 |
| cdent | the GET /rps is getting a list of resource providers, and that's what we want to do now: is make a smaller list of resource providers to pass into the existing scheduler | 12:05 |
| cdent | later the placement api will be making the scheduling decision | 12:05 |
| cdent | which will be accomplished by POSTing the criteria somewhere in the /allocations tree | 12:05 |
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| alex_xu_ | cdent: ah, i see now. thanks for the explain, let me think more... | 12:06 |
| cdent | thanks for looking into this alex_xu_ | 12:07 |
| alex_xu_ | cdent: np :) | 12:09 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | Hi all, anyone knows how to filter instances with filter as metadata through novaclient? | 12:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Simona Iuliana Toader proposed openstack/nova-specs: Hyper-V PCI Passthrough spec https://review.openstack.org/384867 | 12:18 |
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| lyarwood | paul-carlton2: re your encrypted volumes issue you had the other day, you didn't see any suggestion that your passphrase was wrong by any chance did you? | 13:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | siva_krishnan: just got confused by the unit test in here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359424 | 13:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | siva_krishnan: let me know if my comments make any sense | 13:39 |
| bauwser | jaypipes: FWIW, just profiling some SQL queries on my workbench to test my thoughts | 13:39 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: don't forget to try the with galera :p | 13:39 |
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| bauwser | heh | 13:41 |
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| edleafe | oh geez - my manners! | 13:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add RPC version aliases for Newton https://review.openstack.org/386625 | 13:52 |
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| leakypipes | bauwser: ok dokey | 13:53 |
| leakypipes | sahid: k, looking now. | 13:53 |
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| leakypipes | alex_xu_: yeah, so that was the plan to have a POST /allocations/{consumer_uuid} call eventually when we do claims in the scheduler, but until we get there, we need an intermediary call that just returns resource provider records and does not allocate. | 13:55 |
| superdan | leakypipes: is it intermediary? I thought we'd still return a list and then have the scheduler decide what it wanted and then make the allocations | 13:56 |
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| superdan | leakypipes: when we were aruging I was thinking about what happens if we want to have the list call auto-allocate the best match for us, but then I thought you'd tell me I'm silly and we'd always do the list...allocate loop :) | 13:57 |
| * superdan notes he just described a conversation he had inside his head | 13:58 | |
| leakypipes | superdan: no, my long-term vision was to have the placement API contain a call that can be used to allocate resources on a set of resource providers that match a requested amount of resources and required/preferred traits. | 13:58 |
| superdan | leakypipes: ah, okay then I should have brought that up I guess | 13:58 |
| leakypipes | superdan: and the call we are describing now as intermediary would become useful as a kind of "dummy schedule run". | 13:59 |
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| superdan | gotcha | 13:59 |
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| leakypipes | superdan: but again, way off in the future at this point. at least Pike, | 13:59 |
| superdan | aye | 13:59 |
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| pkoniszewski | can someone please restore https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136077/ ? i'd like to continue this effort | 14:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack/nova: DON'T MERGE: debug change 334480/17 https://review.openstack.org/386037 | 14:03 |
| mriedem | pkoniszewski: done | 14:03 |
| pkoniszewski | mriedem: thanks! | 14:04 |
| markus_z | anthonyper: You don't happen to have a vagrant setup with devstack + libvirt-xen, do you? | 14:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova-specs: Support live migration with macvtap SR-IOV https://review.openstack.org/136077 | 14:04 |
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| anthonyper | markus_z: no sorry | 14:04 |
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| markus_z | anthonyper: Maybe a devstack local.conf for xen? | 14:05 |
| mriedem | pkoniszewski: that's proposed for liberty, you'll need to move it to ocata | 14:05 |
| mriedem | and update the template et al | 14:05 |
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| bauwser | leakypipes: just a question, do we accept returning inventories that don't have the checked resource_class when verifying whether the resource provider is good ? | 14:07 |
| leakypipes | sahid: done. | 14:08 |
| pkoniszewski | mriedem: yeah, rebased to ocata already, still need to update template and address all comments | 14:08 |
| anthonyper | there is nothing special in it beside this: [[local|localrc]] LIBVIRT_TYPE=xen | 14:08 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: I have a simple SQL query that verifies each resource class but only returns the ones checked | 14:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/nova-specs: WIP: Support live migration with macvtap SR-IOV https://review.openstack.org/136077 | 14:08 |
| leakypipes | bauwser: ya, only the resource providers and have the requested resource classes. | 14:08 |
| sahid | leakypipes: thanks | 14:08 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: ok, so I found the solution | 14:08 |
| leakypipes | sahid: pas de probleme | 14:08 |
| markus_z | anthonyper: ok, thanks, will try that | 14:09 |
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| anthonyper | markus_z: I just install xen-hypervisor (on ubuntu) and reboot the machine, before starting devstack | 14:09 |
| leakypipes | sahid: merci pour votre patience | 14:09 |
| sahid | leakypipes: pas de problème :) | 14:10 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: for your thoughts http://paste.openstack.org/show/585711/ | 14:11 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: of course it will be <= used + amount | 14:11 |
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| bauwser | leakypipes: rather http://paste.openstack.org/show/585712/ | 14:14 |
| bauwser | and oops ratios | 14:14 |
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| cdent | bauwser: I don't read sql very well. Do you not want AND where you have OR (near the end)? | 14:15 |
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| leakypipes | bauwser: unfortunately that won't work :) you need to join to a copy of the usage aggregate sub-select for each resource class being requested. | 14:15 |
| bauwser | cdent: leakypipes: last call (correctly, this time) http://paste.openstack.org/show/585714/ | 14:15 |
| leakypipes | bauwser: lemme throw up an update... one sec. | 14:15 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: I did the merge | 14:15 |
| leakypipes | quoi? | 14:16 |
| bauwser | I'm joining the sum of usage | 14:16 |
| bauwser | as allocs | 14:16 |
| bauwser | it's your idea, man :) | 14:16 |
| leakypipes | oh, sorry... | 14:16 |
| bauwser | I get a list of inventories where we also get the sum of usage | 14:16 |
| bauwser | lemme show you my MySQL workbench | 14:16 |
| leakypipes | bauwser: this will work but it's not particularly efficient. | 14:17 |
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| bauwser | http://paste.openstack.org/show/585715/ | 14:17 |
| leakypipes | bauwser: because of the use of OR instead of AND in the WHERE clause. | 14:17 |
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| bauwser | leakypipes: no, I'm verifying that each resoure class is good | 14:17 |
| bauwser | that's why I'm using OR | 14:18 |
| bauwser | if I was using AND, I would literally return nothing | 14:18 |
| leakypipes | bauwser: sorry, no, you're misunderstanding what I'm saying... hold up. | 14:18 |
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| leakypipes | bauwser: can you pastebin an EXPLAIN SELECT of that please? | 14:19 |
| bauwser | sure | 14:19 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: your pleasure | 14:20 |
| bauwser | http://paste.openstack.org/show/585716/ | 14:20 |
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| markus_z | bauwser: FWIW, I think https://kobra.io/#/ is a cool thing to work on code together in real-time. :) | 14:21 |
| leakypipes | bauwser: yeah, that'll work. :) | 14:21 |
| bauwser | _o/ | 14:21 |
| bauwser | \o/ even | 14:21 |
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| leakypipes | bauwser: there are ways to reduce the total number of records processed but I can dig into that as an optimization long term. | 14:21 |
| bauwser | okay, I'm transforming that into a SQLA query | 14:21 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: fine by me, I don't have your skills :p | 14:22 |
| leakypipes | bauwser: you are doing semaphore? _o/ \o_ \o/ | 14:22 |
| bauwser | here, I just want to transform my in-memory python loop into a succession of where clauses :) | 14:22 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: I'd love to be a pilot | 14:22 |
| leakypipes | hehe | 14:22 |
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| cdent | bauwser: I assume this sql is for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386242/ ? | 14:25 |
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| bauwser | cdent: zactly | 14:25 |
| bauwser | cdent: leakypipes made a good point about me iterating over each line in memory for verifying whether it was acceptable | 14:25 |
| bauwser | cdent: which could be a very long object | 14:26 |
| cdent | had you seen my comments on the review from earlier today? | 14:26 |
| bauwser | that's IMHO not really a performance issue, but rather a memory problem, where I could potentially use generators for that | 14:26 |
| bauwser | nope, not yet | 14:26 |
| bauwser | cdent: okay, so your comment will be done by the last PS | 14:27 |
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| cdent | presumably your pasted sql will need to be adjusted slightly to not return duplicates? | 14:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Edmonds proposed openstack/nova: Policy enforcement contingent on is_admin_project https://review.openstack.org/384148 | 14:29 |
| cdent | bauwser: ^ | 14:30 |
| bauwser | cdent: we shouldn't get duplicates | 14:31 |
| mriedem | sahid: just replied to your comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386137/ - i'm thinking it makes sense to add ps2mouse to the hw_pointer_model image metadef otherwise the user has no way to override the config on the compute host | 14:31 |
| bauwser | cdent: because we group by rp_id, rc_name | 14:31 |
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| cdent | bauwser: is line 30 here http://paste.openstack.org/show/585715/ showing your output? | 14:32 |
| cdent | that's two lines of the same rp.uuid | 14:32 |
| cdent | the result we want is just a resource provider | 14:32 |
| bauwser | cdent: oh, because we're keying by a tuple (rp_id, rc_idx) like I said | 14:33 |
| bauwser | cdent: but yeah, I can tune that | 14:33 |
| cdent | cool, just wanted to be sure we were all on the same page | 14:33 |
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| mriedem | sahid: also, i was just looking at how use_usb_tablet was used back in liberty https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/liberty/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L4385 | 14:33 |
| mriedem | sahid: ^ seems much more sane | 14:33 |
| bauwser | cdent: I was rather thinking of taking those uuids and putting those into a set | 14:33 |
| mriedem | than what we have now | 14:33 |
| bauwser | cdent: I'll see what's the better | 14:34 |
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| cdent | bauwser: I was hoping you'd be able to keep the existing handling in the filter method, just extend the query to process the resource class info. so that the result can go to ResourceProvider._from_db directly | 14:34 |
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| bauwser | cdent: I'll see when implementing that SQLA | 14:35 |
| bauwser | but I got your idea | 14:35 |
| cdent | cool, thanks | 14:35 |
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| sahid | mriedem: why user may would like to override the config usbtablet to specifically set ps2mouse on the compute host ? | 14:36 |
| leakypipes | wznoinsk: hi Waldemar, do you know what's up with the Intel NFV CI? it's showing as NOT_REGISTERED in many patches. | 14:36 |
| sahid | if host is configured to use usbtablet so both devices are going to be added for the guest spawned | 14:37 |
| leakypipes | wznoinsk: example patch here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377215/8 | 14:37 |
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| leakypipes | wznoinsk: I'm wondering if it's just a temporary thing and I can just kick off a recheck? | 14:37 |
| raj_singh | cdent: I was looking at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-newton-leftovers. Some osic folks want to contribute to placement api's. I was wondering if I can sync up with you during the summit to get started. | 14:37 |
| cdent | raj_singh: yes, that would be awesome | 14:37 |
| raj_singh | cdent: For starters we can help on test coverage and api-ref stuff | 14:37 |
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| leakypipes | raj_singh: no need to wait until summit :) | 14:38 |
| cdent | yeah, and what leakypipes said | 14:38 |
| raj_singh | :) | 14:38 |
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| mriedem | sahid: well when would someone set pointer_model=ps2mouse? | 14:38 |
| mriedem | sahid: i guess in the case that you're not using vnc/spice, | 14:38 |
| mriedem | or not kvm/qemu | 14:38 |
| sahid | mriedem: we have added that to handle a backward compatibility problem, right ? | 14:39 |
| mriedem | sahid: i really think we should probably go back to that pre-pointer_model logic, and only consider the pointer_model option if vnc and spice are enabled, and vm_mode == HVM | 14:39 |
| raj_singh | cdent: leakypipes Sounds good to me. | 14:39 |
| mriedem | sahid: else it's just a server create failure waiting to happen | 14:39 |
| wznoinsk | leakypipes: I'll check it, it was a tmp problem, you can recheck | 14:39 |
| mriedem | sahid: yes | 14:39 |
| mriedem | b/c use_usb_tablet could be set to False | 14:39 |
| leakypipes | superdan, bauwser, figleaf, cdent, sfinucan: your reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377138 would be greatly appreciated. | 14:39 |
| cdent | raj_singh: If there is stuff you or others are interested in we can use that etherpad+email to coordinate. | 14:39 |
| leakypipes | wznoinsk: cool, thanks! | 14:39 |
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| cdent | roger leakypipes | 14:40 |
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| mriedem | right now you really have to know that the combination of 4-5 config options can cause server creates to fail on your compute | 14:40 |
| bauwser | leakypipes: sure | 14:40 |
| mriedem | out of like 1000 config options | 14:40 |
| cdent | raj_singh: for now the best thing may be to help me figure out where there is not enough info on the etherpad | 14:40 |
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| sahid | mriedem: hum... the problem is really because we don't have pointer_model defaulted to None | 14:41 |
| wznoinsk | leakypipes: I'll check it why it happened | 14:41 |
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| raj_singh | cdent: ok. | 14:41 |
| mriedem | sahid: but even if an admin set that to usbtablet you'll have the same issues potentially. i guess the only difference is you don't fail by default. the admin has to opt in. | 14:41 |
| mriedem | and know what they are doing. | 14:41 |
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| sahid | mriedem: is it better to let the instance be booted even if the condision are not satisfied (usbtable able to work) ? | 14:41 |
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| mriedem | i thought about that yesterday | 14:42 |
| raj_singh | macsz_: siva_krishnan Please go through https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-newton-leftovers | 14:42 |
| mriedem | if the user does try to create a server with image_meta that has hw_pointer_model=usbtablet and they don't get it, then they are probably going to open a ticket | 14:42 |
| bauwser | cdent: easy peasy, I made the amendment | 14:43 |
| cdent | bauwser: rad | 14:43 |
| sahid | mriedem: yes... :) | 14:43 |
| bauwser | cdent: http://paste.openstack.org/show/585721/ | 14:43 |
| sahid | mriedem: but what about that behavior on a cluster with some host configured to run usbtable and some other without that option set | 14:43 |
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| sahid | we do not let a change to the instance to be re-scheduled | 14:44 |
| sahid | s/change/chance | 14:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: update client to set parent provider https://review.openstack.org/385693 | 14:44 |
| mriedem | sahid: it will reschedule | 14:45 |
| mriedem | but unless you have the right scheduler filter and aggregates setup you might not land on a compute that can build your server | 14:45 |
| mriedem | and you'll eventually fail with NoValidHost | 14:45 |
| mriedem | sahid: going back to the default behavior, maybe we only fail if the image_meta has hw_pointer_model set and we can't satisfy that request? | 14:46 |
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| mriedem | else we make the decision based on config options on the compute and set usbtablet if we can, but don't fail if we can't | 14:46 |
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| mriedem | that seems like the best behavior to me | 14:47 |
| mriedem | you opt into the setting and if you can't get it, it fails | 14:47 |
| mriedem | if you don't care, you get what you get | 14:47 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I like failing when what the image requested miss matched, and just doing the "best" we can by default | 14:48 |
| mriedem | we can certainly leave the default to be usbtablet, but we wouldn't fail by default if you're using lxc/uml/xen/virtuozzo | 14:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | What is set in the flavor? nothing? | 14:48 |
| mriedem | no flavor extra spec | 14:48 |
| mriedem | just image meta | 14:48 |
| mriedem | and config options | 14:48 |
| macsz_ | raj_singh: ok | 14:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, that sounds like a good default behaviour | 14:48 |
| mriedem | sahid: does that sound good to you? | 14:48 |
| mriedem | that makes my glance change better too | 14:48 |
| sahid | mriedem: yes, i guess you are right, that is the best we can do so far | 14:49 |
| cdent | leakypipes: my second question on ps2 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384807/6 remains unanswered (the first question is irrelevant). If you get a chance to react to that that would help move my review of it along. | 14:49 |
| mriedem | cool, ok, i'll rework this patch at some point - makes me much more comfortable with this | 14:49 |
| sahid | cool | 14:50 |
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| sahid | btw johnthetubaguy this one is still waiting for you https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356383/ :) | 14:51 |
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| leakypipes | cdent: sorry, I missed that question. now responded. | 14:52 |
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| cdent | thanks | 14:52 |
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| cdent | ✔ | 14:53 |
| mriedem | sahid: replied in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386221/ - i have a test change in there for the thing you mentioned | 14:53 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sahid: can I ask you question about that, I keep getting deep in the code and confused about how it works | 14:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: we are picking where to run the emulator, and avoiding the cpu's that are being used for realtime, etc, I think | 14:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: we seem to ignore all other VMs on the system when trying to see what each core should be doing, which seem strange | 14:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: I feels like we could end up with realtime VMs having emulate threads from other VMs running along side them | 14:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: but I assume I am missing something that makes that all work correctly | 14:57 |
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| sahid | mriedem: replied, it's not a strong -1 I just would like to understand why you did your test like that | 15:03 |
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| mriedem | sahid: the compat method only removes the primitive if the value is 'disabled' | 15:04 |
| mriedem | in that test its using 'pause' | 15:05 |
| mriedem | which is valid < 1.16 | 15:05 |
| mriedem | so we leave it | 15:05 |
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| mriedem | in other words, hw_watchdog_action isn't a new field, but 'disabled' is a new enum on that field | 15:07 |
| sahid | mriedem: yes ok ok i expected to see the inverse, when we remove the value, since that is going to raise an exception if not well removed on a old node | 15:07 |
| mriedem | so we only pop if the value is 'disabled' | 15:07 |
| sahid | mriedem: why you did not assert when we pop that value ? | 15:07 |
| mriedem | the test above tests that | 15:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Pre-add instance actions to avoid merge conflicts https://review.openstack.org/386659 | 15:10 |
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| sahid | mriedem: well i double check and i do not see that and your comment says: "Tests that we *don't pop* the hw_watchdog_action if the value is not disabled" | 15:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated compute_available_monitors option https://review.openstack.org/371062 | 15:17 |
| sahid | johnthetubaguy: operators which want to run realtime should have aggreate of host dedicated to only run realtime | 15:18 |
| mriedem | sahid: this test https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386221/1/nova/tests/unit/objects/test_image_meta.py@298 | 15:18 |
| sahid | so the instance running on host should all have a cpu_policy=dedicated | 15:18 |
| mriedem | that sets hw_watchdog_action='disabled' | 15:18 |
| mriedem | and it's asserted on L303 | 15:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova: WIP libvirt: Fix races with nfs volume mount/umount https://review.openstack.org/383859 | 15:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: but couldn't they still all pick a different place for their emulator threads to run, so they run on another realtime VM's core? | 15:19 |
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| sahid | mriedem: yes sorry, did not notice that | 15:23 |
| mriedem | np | 15:24 |
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| sahid | johnthetubaguy: they can't, that policy avoid such behavior, vCPUs are pinned to a host CPUs | 15:25 |
| sahid | they do not float | 15:25 |
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| sahid | only emulator threads float accros no realtime vCPUs | 15:25 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sahid: agreed with all that, my problem is how to the emulator threads avoid all the VMs that are doing realtime on that box, it doesn't seem like the other VMs are considered when picking where the emulator thread goes, but like I say, I must be missing something | 15:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Ironic Driver: override get_serial_console() https://review.openstack.org/328157 | 15:27 |
| sahid | johnthetubaguy: they are considered we have bunch of function to compute the topology of an instance to fit on the host topology | 15:28 |
| sahid | all of them are in virt/hardware.py (numa_fit_something..) | 15:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: ah, so this bit of code is just doing the generic, I need an emulator thread to go somewhere, rather than deciding where it goes? | 15:29 |
| sahid | so at this step we already know where the vCPUs are going to be pinned | 15:29 |
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| johnthetubaguy | hmm, OK, its already claimed I guess | 15:30 |
| sahid | johnthetubaguy: exactly, at this step we already know the cores which are free | 15:30 |
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| sahid | we are just applying the topology for libvirt | 15:31 |
| mriedem | alaski: the api doesn't talk to the scheduler directly at all today right? | 15:31 |
| mriedem | just reading https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381275/4/specs/ocata/approved/cells-scheduling-interaction.rst | 15:32 |
| superdan | mriedem: not that I know of | 15:32 |
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| johnthetubaguy | it used to, but we stopped doing that a little while back | 15:33 |
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| cdent | leakypipes: I've excused myself from any future decision making today. | 15:40 |
| cdent | I have an excuse note from my cat. | 15:41 |
| mriedem | superdan: johnthetubaguy: ok, i'm marking up this spec | 15:41 |
| mriedem | i'm probably just missing something very obvious | 15:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | ayoung proposed openstack/nova: API Policy enforcement contingent on is_admin_project https://review.openstack.org/384148 | 15:47 |
| ayoung | edmondsw, so, while I was going deeper with my changes, I accepted yours as is, and put you on as co-author. Please look and +1 if acceptable | 15:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP encryptors: Use a mangled passphrase if permission is denied https://review.openstack.org/386670 | 15:49 |
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| edmondsw | ayoung, tx... +1 | 15:50 |
| ayoung | edmondsw, I didn't really like introducing any changes that would reflect in generated policy files except for the is_admin_project check, hence not wanting to do GLOBAL_ADMIN | 15:51 |
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| ayoung | if people have customized policy, it will make it harder to diff, but, oh well | 15:51 |
| ayoung | edmondsw, I think your logic is correct, and that is what is essential | 15:52 |
| ayoung | edmondsw, I kindof want to drop the is_admin part of the nova/context.py now, as it seems confusing. | 15:52 |
| edmondsw | I'd prefer global_admin was hardcoded, so people can't mess it up, but wasn't sure how to do that... this should work and if someone messes it up that's on them | 15:52 |
| edmondsw | ayoung yeah... | 15:53 |
| ayoung | But that can be a follow on patch. I suspect we'll all do some cleanup after this | 15:53 |
| ayoung | Keystone is much harder to deal with.... | 15:53 |
| edmondsw | a good followup would be to look at why there are three rules that check is_admin directly and why and most likely make changes there | 15:53 |
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| edmondsw | alaski, please take another look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384148 per above discussion | 15:54 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: melwitt: jlk: alaski: superdan: bunch of comments/questions in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381275/ | 15:56 |
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| ayoung | edmondsw, so, there are 2 types of admin APIs. THose that are global, and those scoped to a project. It was my undertanding that those 3 couild be scoped to a project and would be safe to excute | 15:57 |
| mriedem | i didn't want to ruffle feathers with a -1 but feel some clarification is needed | 15:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Return a list of RPs that would support resources https://review.openstack.org/386242 | 15:59 |
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| bauwser | leakypipes: cdent: superdan: figleaf: others, I just updated the POC ^ | 15:59 |
| cdent | thanks bauwser, will look, but as I made very obvious when reviewing jay's stuff, I'm too tired to be super useful ... | 16:00 |
| bauwser | for the moment, having a GET /RPs, but lemme know your point and then I'll update it | 16:00 |
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| bauwser | cdent: I'll test the POC in my local devstack on Monday | 16:01 |
| bauwser | bye, folks ! | 16:02 |
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| markus_z | anthonyper: JFYI, for reasons I don't understand, xen needs to flush the pty output into a file: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386037/4/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py | 16:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem_lunch: I thought the API calls the API conductor, which calls the scheduler, but you are right, thats not totally clear | 16:03 |
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| markus_z | anthonyper: I'll fix the patch on Monday, I have to go home now. | 16:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem_lunch: I have a picture in my head of what I was expecting to see, and this points to that, rather than this tells me what the picture is, whoops | 16:03 |
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| superdan | mriedem_lunch: I replied to some of your things, but it seems like you realized the full picture after reading the whole thing.. yes? | 16:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: tests: Adding functional tests to cover VM creation with sriov https://review.openstack.org/294780 | 16:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: tests: verify pci passthrough with numa https://review.openstack.org/356077 | 16:16 |
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| superdan | johnthetubaguy: BobBall: seems like xen ci has been failopotomous lately | 16:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: adding debug info for pinning calculation https://review.openstack.org/355150 | 16:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | do you mean anthonyper's one? | 16:21 |
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| superdan | johnthetubaguy: "XenProject CI" | 16:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think thats anthonyper who would know about that | 16:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | there was a race they were trying to fix to improve things, I don't remember how far we are getting with that yet | 16:23 |
| BobBall | It is. Although there is also a little bit of sickness in the XenServer CI too which we are working on | 16:23 |
| superdan | johnthetubaguy: okay it's just a lot of -1 noise right now it seems | 16:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | we should probably stop it voting | 16:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: I removed the vote permissions for now, while that gets fixed up | 16:25 |
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| BobBall | for which CI? | 16:25 |
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| johnthetubaguy | oh, xen project | 16:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | oops | 16:25 |
| BobBall | Fine | 16:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | anyways, that should stop some noise while it gets sorted | 16:26 |
| BobBall | The Citrix CI is mostly OK - I don't think it's bad enough to remove the voting | 16:26 |
| BobBall | personally :) | 16:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | I have seen quite a bit of read from the other one myself, hence my flinch to remove that one | 16:27 |
| BobBall | Our Neutron tests sometimes run out of disk space (being fixed) - but we set them to non-voting anyway. | 16:28 |
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| BobBall | So as far as I'm aware, the Citrix XenServer CI isn't voting -1 erroneously | 16:28 |
| BobBall | (routinely that is - most of the tests are passing, and all CIs expose some race conditions) | 16:29 |
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| knikolla | are there plans to make nova work with multiple ceph backends for volumes? | 16:48 |
| superdan | leakypipes: so, don't kill me for saying this | 16:50 |
| superdan | leakypipes: but is there a spec for the nested resource provider stuff? | 16:50 |
| superdan | leakypipes: I have some edge case questions which I would normally lob at the spec | 16:51 |
| superdan | leakypipes: like, what happens if we want to allocate a PF itself | 16:51 |
| superdan | because it almost seems like we need a relationship between inventory items to do that | 16:51 |
| superdan | which really concerns me of course :) | 16:51 |
| leakypipes | superdan: yup, I'm just finishing it up now. | 16:52 |
| leakypipes | superdan: should have it pushed shortly. | 16:52 |
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| superdan | okay | 16:52 |
| leakypipes | superdan: allocating a PF is a separate concern. We will need a SRIOV_NET_PF resource class and the inventory would be on the compute host provider, not a child provider. | 16:52 |
| leakypipes | superdan: since a PF is essentially "passthrough PCI device" that the guest fully owns. | 16:53 |
| superdan | leakypipes: but we can't actually give away a PF unless we have none of its VFs allocated | 16:53 |
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| leakypipes | superdan: yup, but that is something the discovery code in the PCI device manager figures out and calls the placement REST API accordingly. | 16:54 |
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| superdan | leakypipes: well, my point is that we won't be able to ask placement for a host with an available PF right? | 16:54 |
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| leakypipes | superdan: in other words, if any VF has been allocated, the reporting client would not add an inventory record to the compute host resource provider for a SRIOV_NET_PF resource class. | 16:54 |
| superdan | leakypipes: that's enforced in the pci manager? | 16:55 |
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| leakypipes | superdan: yep. | 16:55 |
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| superdan | leakypipes: but (a) it will racy and (b) we can't ask placement for a host with a PF, right? | 16:55 |
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| leakypipes | superdan: in the same general fashion as how the PCI manager ignores PFs that don't match the pci_passthrough_whitelist values. | 16:55 |
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| leakypipes | superdan: not sure why you think it would be racy? | 16:56 |
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| superdan | leakypipes: well, I'm thinking about if we're using placement's view of what is allocated, but I guess you're saying that since pci manager is on the compute node, it knows what it has already given away | 16:56 |
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| superdan | but still, we're depending on python code in another service to keep placement's allocations sane I think, which is maybe fair game, I dunno, it's just surprising to me | 16:57 |
| leakypipes | superdan: correct, and the compute host, via the scheduler reporting client, is what tells the placement API what inventories it has. | 16:57 |
| superdan | leakypipes: so you're thinking that when we give away the first VF for a PF, we delete the PF inventory first?, and similarly when we give away a PF, we delete all the VF inventory first? | 16:58 |
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| leakypipes | superdan: we could do that, sure. | 16:59 |
| * superdan notes the trump-esque run-on sentence and the question mark seemingly in the middle of a sentence | 16:59 | |
| superdan | leakypipes: not sure how else it will work if we don't | 16:59 |
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| superdan | leakypipes: I guess the race also comes if we schedule two things to the same compute node, asking for VFs and PFs from the same device.. one will have to reschedule | 17:00 |
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| superdan | which is, par for the course currently, but.. I think it means we can't ever do allocations for these resources in placement like we hope to for other things | 17:00 |
| leakypipes | superdan: this is partly why I find it annoying that NFV operators want complete dynamic flexibility to *either* use a PF directly *or* use it in virtual functions. | 17:00 |
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| superdan | leakypipes: totes agree | 17:00 |
| leakypipes | superdan: but it is what it is. | 17:00 |
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| leakypipes | superdan: on the race condition you describe above, that isn't a use case I'm too keen to bend over backwards to try and fix really. | 17:01 |
| leakypipes | superdan: I mean, it's really kind of an oddball situation. | 17:01 |
| superdan | leakypipes: I don't think it is oddball.. I think people are asking for it right now | 17:02 |
| leakypipes | superdan: in NFVi deployments, there is only a single user/tenant: the MANO/VNFM system. | 17:02 |
| leakypipes | superdan: and therefore that MANO/VNFM is going to be requesting resources that fit a particular scaling/shrinking need. | 17:03 |
| leakypipes | superdan: it's not going to be multiple tenants asking for different things at the same time. | 17:03 |
| superdan | leakypipes: I'm not sure what the tenancy has to do with anything | 17:03 |
| superdan | leakypipes: you're assuming the controller in this case is making sane globally-consistent requests to the cloud | 17:04 |
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| superdan | which doesn't seem like a reasonable assumption to me, and if it's just that "this feature is only for a subset of users who promised not to do that" then .. I dunno what to say :) | 17:04 |
| leakypipes | superdan: you are not going to get simultaneous requests to launch a VNF that uses a PF and a VNF that uses VFs both hit the scheduler at the same time. | 17:04 |
| leakypipes | superdan: dude, MOST of these features that we have been working on for 2+ years are for a tiny subset of users (i.e. telco NFV deployers) | 17:05 |
| leakypipes | :) | 17:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP encryptors: Use a mangled passphrase if permission is denied https://review.openstack.org/386670 | 17:05 |
| vladikr | superdan, "...so you're thinking that when we give away the first VF for a PF, we delete the PF inventory first..." - this is how it works.. also, all vfs will disappear from the host once the PF is assigned - so as the opposite | 17:06 |
| jlk | mriedem_lunch: thanks, commented. | 17:06 |
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| superdan | vladikr: yeah, but that stops working when we move allocations to the scheduler | 17:06 |
| vladikr | okay, I guess.. | 17:06 |
| vladikr | superdan, but we also do it logically | 17:07 |
| leakypipes | vladikr: what do you mean by that? | 17:07 |
| superdan | yeah I was just trying to grok that :) | 17:07 |
| vladikr | :) | 17:08 |
| leakypipes | vladikr: did you mean "locally" -- as in we do it also on the compute host? | 17:08 |
| vladikr | I mean, PF will become UNAVAILABLE when one of it's VF's is assigned | 17:08 |
| superdan | vladikr: but the scheduler doesn't know the relationship | 17:08 |
| superdan | or placement especially | 17:09 |
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| superdan | unless we either code that into the engine, or we provide some like "resource triggers" or something | 17:09 |
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| superdan | or we teach the scheduler that if a multi-level RP has inventory at two levels, | 17:09 |
| vladikr | superdan, there should be a map this relationship in the pci manager | 17:09 |
| superdan | that they must be treated in this way or something | 17:10 |
| vladikr | looking for the link | 17:10 |
| superdan | vladikr: pci manager is not in the scheduler or placement :) | 17:10 |
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| leakypipes | superdan: I totally get what you're saying about the placement engine. | 17:11 |
| leakypipes | superdan: and I guess I'm willing to say "totally fine rescheduling when those conflicts occur". | 17:11 |
| leakypipes | superdan: instead of having to add crazy-pants logic into the placement engine. | 17:12 |
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| melwitt | EmilienM: do you happen to know why my_ip in nova.conf used to be set in the tripleo-heat-templates in the past? I it was removed in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343636/ and I'm curious what it used to do in the past | 17:13 |
| melwitt | *I noticed it was removed | 17:13 |
| superdan | leakypipes: yeah, I guess my point is.. I'm not sure what the point of having such a complicated hierarchical system is, if it doesn't solve problems like this | 17:13 |
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| superdan | leakypipes: which is why I asked about the spec | 17:13 |
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| EmilienM | melwitt: I think it's a legacy thing that could be safely removed in tripleo | 17:14 |
| EmilienM | melwitt: maybe from old old old releases :-) | 17:14 |
| leakypipes | superdan: ah. well, the point of the hierarchical relationship is explained in the last paragraph of the commit message, which talks about the resource provider being the entity against which qualitative traits are applied and therefore in order to differentiate between SRIOV_NET_VF resource inventory for NICs associated with different networks, we need different resource provider records to | 17:15 |
| leakypipes | tag the physnet trait to. | 17:15 |
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| superdan | leakypipes: okay | 17:15 |
| melwitt | EmilienM: yes, I was just curious what it used to do, because I couldn't figure it out from the old history :) | 17:15 |
| leakypipes | superdan: making those SRIOV NICs child resource providers of the compute host resource provider allows the placement engine to select the compute host resource provider (root provider UUID) that has child providers tagged with a particular physnet trait and having available inventory of SRIOV_NET_VF resources. | 17:16 |
| knikolla | with libvirt/ceph volumes, are secret_uuid and auth_username received from cinder or read from nova.conf? | 17:16 |
| EmilienM | melwitt: I think but I'm not sure, it was useful for nova-network and multi-host thing. But I'm really unsure. | 17:16 |
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| EmilienM | melwitt: dprince (not connected here) would know for sure, maybe you can ask him on #tripleo. IIRC he introduced it a while ago | 17:17 |
| melwitt | EmilienM: okay, thanks! | 17:17 |
| leakypipes | superdan: the alternative (bad in my opinion) is to need to create a custom resource class for every permutation of trait and resource class... so something like SRIOV_NET_VF_PUBLIC_NET and SRIOV_NET_VF_INTRANET_NET etc. and then we're back to coupling qualitative things with quantitative things which is partly what we're trying to get away from in the placement API. | 17:17 |
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| superdan | leakypipes: yeah, I guess that makes sense, I just thought this was more useful for the quantitative side if it's important "right now" | 17:17 |
| EmilienM | melwitt: yw | 17:17 |
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| leakypipes | EmilienM: grats on your TC election :) | 17:18 |
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| EmilienM | leakypipes: jay? | 17:19 |
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| leakypipes | EmilienM: yes :) | 17:20 |
| leakypipes | EmilienM: it's casual Friday nick :) | 17:21 |
| EmilienM | leakypipes: thanks! appreciated | 17:21 |
| EmilienM | why everyone has that and not me | 17:21 |
| leakypipes | EmilienM: de rien | 17:21 |
| leakypipes | EmilienM: choose your own CFN :) | 17:21 |
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| mriedem | superdan: johnthetubaguy: has anyone posted the change to remove local conductor yet? | 17:24 |
| superdan | mriedem: I started on it after your comments | 17:25 |
| mriedem | ok | 17:25 |
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| superdan | mriedem: pretty sure I have dibs on that, being the one that added it in the first place :) | 17:25 |
| mriedem | touchy touchy | 17:25 |
| mriedem | that's why i asked :) | 17:25 |
| mriedem | btw the replies in alaski's spec cleared up quite a bit for me | 17:26 |
| mriedem | so thanks | 17:26 |
| superdan | mriedem: cool | 17:26 |
| superdan | mriedem: you think words need changing, or are you good now? | 17:26 |
| mriedem | totally replaced 'api layer' with 'api service' | 17:26 |
| superdan | I probably have too much of it in my head to read it from a blank perspective | 17:26 |
| mriedem | an ascii art bean dip would be helpful, but i'm joking | 17:27 |
| mriedem | that notification thing will have to be changed/moved i guess | 17:27 |
| mriedem | i think it could definitely be more clear, but i don't want to block on that if people are happy to get it approved. and i'm assuming alaski is out today. | 17:28 |
| omgwtfjlk | I definitely want to +1 the removal of local conductor, when that patch is ready. | 17:28 |
| mriedem | superdan: johnthetubaguy: +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381275/ now | 17:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova: WIP encryptors: Use a mangled passphrase if permission is denied https://review.openstack.org/386670 | 17:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add concept of nested resource providers https://review.openstack.org/386710 | 17:40 |
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| leakypipes | superdan: et voila. ^^ | 17:41 |
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| cdent | leakypipes: I suspect this is because I actually know what you're talking about now, but that spec was a whole hell of a lot easier to read than the ones at the start of newton | 17:50 |
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| leakypipes | cdent: I tried very hard to keep implementation minutae out of it and stick to the basics. | 17:51 |
| leakypipes | cdent: and keep it short. | 17:51 |
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| cdent | excellent choices | 17:52 |
| openstackgerrit | STEW TY proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance.unshelve notifications https://review.openstack.org/382565 | 17:52 |
| cdent | have a good weekend everyone | 17:53 |
| * cdent waves | 17:53 | |
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| oomichi | alex_xu: thanks :) | 17:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: Correct bug in microversion headers in placement https://review.openstack.org/384806 | 17:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: adds REST API for nested providers https://review.openstack.org/384807 | 17:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: add get_all_by_root_provider_uuid() https://review.openstack.org/377215 | 17:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: update client to set parent provider https://review.openstack.org/385693 | 17:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: add nested resource providers https://review.openstack.org/377138 | 17:58 |
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| mriedem | lyarwood: i'm pretty sure this was reverted at some point on master https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386676/ | 18:30 |
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| mriedem | sorry i was thinking of something else in newotn | 18:31 |
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| superdan | mriedem: do you know if I can use fixtures as context managers? | 18:41 |
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| superdan | I think I can | 18:42 |
| lbeliveau | we are observing an issue with neutron port status marked as DOWN after a live migration, anybody knows something about that ? | 18:42 |
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| mriedem | superdan: not sure, i've never done that myself | 18:44 |
| melwitt | superdan: I would expect so based on the fixtures docs (shows you can). I haven't used them as context manager before though | 18:44 |
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| mriedem | i'm sure there is all sorts of crazy black magic shit you can do | 18:44 |
| superdan | mriedem: looks like we have some examples | 18:44 |
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| superdan | grep 'with.*fixture' -r nova | 18:44 |
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| superdan | shows several | 18:44 |
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| melwitt | eureka | 18:45 |
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| mriedem | with fixtures.FunctionFixture(setup_function, teardown_function) as fixture: | 18:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sarafraj Singh proposed openstack/nova: Deprecate compute options https://review.openstack.org/385165 | 19:05 |
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| mriedem | if you pass a network and fixed IP into os-attach-interface, for neutron i don't even see where the fixed IP passed in is used for anything | 19:36 |
| mriedem | is that fixed IP only used for nova-net? | 19:36 |
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| mriedem | os-attach-interface isn't implemented for nova-network so that doesn't make sense | 19:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Edmonds proposed openstack/nova: API Policy enforcement contingent on is_admin_project https://review.openstack.org/384148 | 19:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: DNM: what happens if we don't use the fixed ip on attach? https://review.openstack.org/386755 | 19:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christopher Martin proposed openstack/nova: Bugfix: Changes to Instance Soft Delete https://review.openstack.org/386756 | 19:46 |
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| edmondsw | ayoung, found a couple APIs that have to require global_admin that I'd missed in the earlier patch... new patch uploaded | 19:49 |
| ayoung | edmondsw, cool. will that help with the integration tests that are failing? | 19:50 |
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| edmondsw | ayoung, haven't looked at those, but I doubt it | 19:51 |
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| edmondsw | ayoung, so I started looking at the failures in gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial... this would have to be something we need to fix in tempest or in the configuration of that CI job, not a problem with our patch | 20:30 |
| ayoung | blah | 20:31 |
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| ayoung | edmondsw, those should continue to pass...is it our code change that is triggereing it? | 20:31 |
| edmondsw | I've not dealt with tempest issues before, so I don't know where to look | 20:31 |
| edmondsw | presumably | 20:31 |
| edmondsw | http://logs.openstack.org/48/384148/6/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/364ddd0/console.html#_2016-10-14_16_32_58_830672 | 20:31 |
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| edmondsw | it created a project and then tried to call an API that requires admin_or_owner... well, it's not going to be owner because the project didn't exist when the auth happened, so it would have to be global_admin | 20:32 |
| edmondsw | presumably the test is only running as a regular admin, not global admin | 20:32 |
| edmondsw | so the policy is right... the test needs to be fixed | 20:32 |
| edmondsw | or I guess it could be a bug in the previous patch that was SUPPOSED to be backward compatible by making is_admin_project:True by default | 20:34 |
| edmondsw | ayoung ^ | 20:34 |
| ayoung | edmondsw, without a dedicated admin_project, that policy should still pass | 20:35 |
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| edmondsw | but I'm betting the admin project is actually defined, and this test wasn't updated to account for that | 20:35 |
| ayoung | that change is in oslo-policy, and we should confirm that it works in our patch | 20:35 |
| ayoung | maybe...but I'd be surprised. Is there a keystone config for that job... | 20:36 |
| edmondsw | I don't know where to look for something like that | 20:36 |
| ayoung | [resource] | 20:36 |
| ayoung | admin_project_name = admin | 20:36 |
| ayoung | admin_project_domain_name = Default | 20:36 |
| ayoung | driver = sql | 20:36 |
| ayoung | http://logs.openstack.org/48/384148/6/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/364ddd0/logs/etc/keystone/keystone.conf.txt.gz | 20:36 |
| ayoung | GAH | 20:36 |
| ayoung | Oh they just made life hell | 20:36 |
| ayoung | f*****s | 20:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova: Add related options to floating ip config options https://review.openstack.org/355561 | 20:37 |
| edmondsw | ayoung, on the bright side, it's good that an admin_project is defined... that's what we want to encourage everyone to do, so we should test it... we just weren't quite ready to do that yet... | 20:37 |
| edmondsw | who had the bright idea of storing conf under a directory called "logs"??? | 20:38 |
| ayoung | edmondsw, is it ok if I cry now? | 20:38 |
| edmondsw | don't let me stop you | 20:38 |
| edmondsw | there are only 13 test failures in this whole gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial, so it shouldn't be too bad to fix | 20:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Diana Clarke proposed openstack/nova-specs: Simple tenant usage pagination https://review.openstack.org/386771 | 20:40 |
| diana_clarke | ^^ that's Friday afternoon effort, do let me know if I should be more verbose. | 20:41 |
| diana_clarke | cheers, folks | 20:41 |
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| ayoung | edmondsw, they put in a crap check before anything could use it, and did not ensure the other tests we aligned, essentially making this 1000 times harder. I am not happy | 20:42 |
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| edmondsw | ayoung, time to head home, have a drink, and not worry about this for a couple days? ;) | 20:43 |
| ayoung | edmondsw, what I just heard is "we missed Ocata, but maybe in Queens" | 20:43 |
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| edmondsw | ayoung oh, noo... I did NOT mean that... | 20:44 |
| ayoung | edmondsw, le sigh | 20:44 |
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| edmondsw | ayoung, how do we view/edit the config of gate jobs? | 20:48 |
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| mriedem | this needs another +2 to close out the bp for anyone so inclined https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328055/ | 21:06 |
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| jlk | Hi folks. I'm reading release notes of Newton, seeing mention that "scheduler_host_manager" config is removed, however, I see code in nova for this option, and I don't see what we're supposed to do to make nova use ironic vs nova for host manager. | 21:09 |
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| jlk | What am I missing here? | 21:11 |
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| figleaf | jlk: it wasn't removed; it was moved | 21:19 |
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| jlk | welp, docs are wrong then | 21:19 |
| figleaf | we centralized config options into nova/conf/ | 21:20 |
| figleaf | jlk: link? | 21:20 |
| jlk | http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/nova/newton.html | 21:20 |
| jlk | "The ability to load a custom scheduler host manager via the scheduler_host_manager configuration option was deprecated in the 13.0.0 Mitaka release and is now removed in the 14.0.0 Newton release." | 21:20 |
| figleaf | jlk: that kinda conflicts with another entry: "The option scheduler_host_manager is now changed to use entrypoint instead of full class path. Set one of the entrypoints under the namespace ‘nova.scheduler.host_manager’ in ‘setup.cfg’. Its default value is ‘host_manager’." | 21:22 |
| jlk | yup. Hence my confusion. | 21:22 |
| jlk | I mean, I clearly found the code where it is managed | 21:22 |
| jlk | Of note, that config entry does NOT appear in http://docs.openstack.org/newton/config-reference/compute/config-options.html either. | 21:23 |
| jlk | (which is why I had to go rooting around in the code) | 21:23 |
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| figleaf | jlk: yeah, I'm not sure how those docs were created. | 21:25 |
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| figleaf | jlk: I don't see an entry for scheduler options at all | 21:26 |
| jlk | that's probably a problem | 21:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: tests: Adding functional tests to cover VM creation with sriov https://review.openstack.org/294780 | 21:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: tests: verify pci passthrough with numa https://review.openstack.org/356077 | 21:27 |
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| mriedem | figleaf: jlk: those are release notes | 21:31 |
| jlk | auggy: You've been tackling some documentation issues, what do you think of this one ^^ ? | 21:31 |
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| mriedem | scheduler_host_manager used to allow classloading your own scheduler | 21:31 |
| mriedem | now you can't classload the scheduler | 21:31 |
| mriedem | you have to use the entrypoints | 21:32 |
| auggy | jlk: looking.. | 21:32 |
| jlk | mriedem: oooh, I think I get the wording now | 21:32 |
| figleaf | mriedem: oh, ok | 21:32 |
| jlk | mriedem: CONFUSING :D | 21:32 |
| figleaf | mriedem: it reads like the option itself was removed | 21:32 |
| mriedem | so https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/setup.cfg#L179 | 21:32 |
| mriedem | figleaf: no it doesn't | 21:32 |
| mriedem | 'the ability to classload things' | 21:32 |
| mriedem | doesn't mean the option is removed | 21:32 |
| jlk | It reads like "the ability to do a thing with this config option has been removed" | 21:32 |
| jlk | as in, the option has been removed. | 21:32 |
| mriedem | in fact http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/sample_config.html | 21:33 |
| mriedem | # # The scheduler host manager to use. # # The host manager manages the in-memory picture of the hosts that the scheduler # uses. The options values are chosen from the entry points under the namespace # 'nova.scheduler.host_manager' in 'setup.cfg'. # (string value) # Allowed values: host_manager, ironic_host_manager #scheduler_host_manager = host_manager | 21:33 |
| mriedem | the config option even has choices | 21:33 |
| jlk | if at least two of us read it that way, then it's not clearly worded. | 21:33 |
| jlk | mriedem: it's not documented at http://docs.openstack.org/newton/config-reference/compute/config-options.html | 21:33 |
| superdan | dang | 21:33 |
| superdan | if only we took patches | 21:33 |
| superdan | oh well. | 21:33 |
| jlk | superdan: argue first, then patch :D | 21:33 |
| mriedem | jlk: those are updated by the docs team in intervals | 21:34 |
| auggy | jlk: i don't know how the config docs are generated, i worked on the api-ref documentation project | 21:34 |
| mriedem | jlk: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/sample_config.html is updated every day from source | 21:34 |
| jlk | mriedem: from what branch though? | 21:34 |
| mriedem | all | 21:34 |
| mriedem | BLAM! http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/newton/sample_config.html | 21:34 |
| auggy | if you select "report a bug" it targets the openstack-manuals project | 21:35 |
| mriedem | you want some mfing mitaka?! BLAMO! http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/mitaka/sample_config.html | 21:35 |
| jlk | ah, wasn't clear from the link how to get to other releases. | 21:35 |
| mriedem | that's a little magic i know about | 21:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: Remove deprecated nova-manage network commands https://review.openstack.org/386788 | 21:35 |
| mriedem | speaking of mfing blamo, ^ | 21:35 |
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| auggy | ah right, i remember, these are the tools that build the docs stuff - https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals | 21:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Keating proposed openstack/nova: Clarify what changed with scheduler_host_manager. https://review.openstack.org/386833 | 22:03 |
| jlk | superdan: ^^^ happy now?? ;) | 22:03 |
| superdan | never. | 22:03 |
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| jlk | are the os_vif_* related sections specific to nova-network, and not used at all in a neutron setup? | 22:18 |
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| jlk | oh wow this is confusing to follow | 22:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Keating proposed openstack/nova: Update os-vif config section names https://review.openstack.org/386842 | 22:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: Correct bug in microversion headers in placement https://review.openstack.org/384806 | 22:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: add ResourceClass and ResourceClassList https://review.openstack.org/386843 | 22:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova: placement: Implement ResourceClass.create() https://review.openstack.org/386844 | 22:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Keating proposed openstack/nova: Clarify what changed with scheduler_host_manager. https://review.openstack.org/386833 | 22:35 |
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| figleaf | leakypipes: wrote up my essay of a reply on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386710/. Heading out now for the weekend. | 22:36 |
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| stewie925 | hi guys - I see gerrit shows a merge conflict on my commit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375784/ | 22:44 |
| stewie925 | I suppose I just do another git clone of nova, then copy link of the checkout in my commit, then do 'git rebase -i master'? | 22:48 |
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| auggy | stewie925: update master, then check out your branch and do git rebase master | 23:01 |
| auggy | stewie925: you don't need to do another git clone, checkout master and do a pull or fetch depending on your workflow | 23:01 |
| stewie925 | auggy: thank you - this rebase thing can be really confusing | 23:02 |
| auggy | you don't need to do rebase -i, git will indicate any conflicts and you can fix them... then add the fixed files to your commit and git rebase --continue | 23:02 |
| auggy | there will be instructions from git on the command line when you do the rebase | 23:02 |
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| stewie925 | I had already git cloned another nova | 23:03 |
| auggy | stewie925: yeah, git workflows vary from project to project :) | 23:03 |
| auggy | stewie925: why did you clone a new nova repo? | 23:03 |
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| stewie925 | long story... I inadvertently deleted a folder in my orig nova repo (off day) | 23:04 |
| auggy | stewie925: ah, so if that happens you can always do "git checkout" or "git reset --hard" | 23:04 |
| auggy | if you do git checkout path/to/thing then it will refresh it basically | 23:05 |
| stewie925 | oh even if I deleted a folder? | 23:05 |
| auggy | yep | 23:05 |
| auggy | git reset --hard should do the same thing, but it will blow away any other changes you have sitting around | 23:05 |
| auggy | a deletion is seen as a change event | 23:05 |
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| mriedem | superdan: when you get a chance can you update the link in the channel topic to this please? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Ocata_Release_Schedule | 23:10 |
| superdan | okay | 23:10 |
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| mriedem | damnitalltohell, devstack is still using nova-manage for setting up nova-networking | 23:14 |
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| auggy | dagnabbitmq! | 23:17 |
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