Monday, 2017-02-06

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mikalmriedem: you still around?00:37
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openstackgerritMichael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Update devref with vendordata changes.  https://review.openstack.org/42943101:17
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Extend tag length limit to 80  https://review.openstack.org/42311201:56
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openstackgerritHuan Xie proposed openstack/nova master: Fix live migrate with XenServer  https://review.openstack.org/42442802:26
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Repropose tag-instance-when-boot  https://review.openstack.org/41531502:38
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mriedemmikal: sort of03:39
mikalmriedem: I posted a devref update for you, but I'm not really clear on what you think it should cover so I'm not sure it hits the mark03:39
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mikalmriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429431/03:40
mriedemmikal: cool. was just looking for some words on features you added in ocata related to vendordata, like the service user stuff, the config to blow up on spawn, etc03:41
mriedemnothing major03:41
mikalmriedem: why would that be in the devref though and not the user guide?03:41
mriedemi've just been in this mode of documenting some of the related config stuff for these features because we've been doing it with the cells and placement docs too03:41
mikalmriedem: do we now describe all features in the devref?03:41
mriedemmikal: because we don't have a user guide :)03:41
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mriedemmikal: the devref gets a lot more current traction yes03:41
mikalmriedem: ok, well I'll do an update when I get out of this mandatory training course03:42
mriedemthanks03:42
mriedemi've found that when we tell people to doc stuff and that means external to nova, it's essentially meaning it's never going to happen03:42
mriedemthe nova devref is also indexed in the docs.o.o search so from my pov it's kind of all the same at this point03:43
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mikalOk03:43
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Handle InstanceInvalidState for os-assisted-volume-snapshots  https://review.openstack.org/42947603:45
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openstackgerritNam Nguyen Hoai proposed openstack/nova master: Use oslo_serialization.base64 to follow OpenStack Python3  https://review.openstack.org/41388503:47
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alex_xuKevin_Zheng: fyi, the reno part of this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421760/ is separated to another patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428285/, you just need update the part of api-ref.05:46
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Fix keypair API parameters  https://review.openstack.org/42062605:54
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Fix deprecated proxy API parameters  https://review.openstack.org/41688205:54
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Fix parameters and examples in aggregate API  https://review.openstack.org/42551205:54
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Use ListOfIntegersField in oslo.versionedobjects  https://review.openstack.org/42391205:54
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Fix parameters in os-hosts.inc  https://review.openstack.org/41644405:55
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor a test method including 7 test cases  https://review.openstack.org/39543605:55
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor a test method including 3 test cases  https://review.openstack.org/39473805:55
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Fix doc generation warnings  https://review.openstack.org/42554905:55
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Microversion 2.42 - Fix tag attribute disappearing  https://review.openstack.org/42951206:04
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Kevin_Zhengalex_xu: thanks06:07
alex_xuKevin_Zheng: np06:07
Kevin_Zhenghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/403568/ could you review this one if you got time? seems a high priority bug06:08
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alex_xuKevin_Zheng: will check that06:10
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openstackgerritZhenguo Niu proposed openstack/nova master: Fix breaking out of nested loops  https://review.openstack.org/42493106:14
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openstackgerritLIU Yulong proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Reset the instance keypair while rebuilding (spec)  https://review.openstack.org/37522106:23
openstackgerritLIU Yulong proposed openstack/nova master: Enable reset keypair while rebuilding instance  https://review.openstack.org/37912806:23
liuyulongalex_xu, ^^, can we move on these patch sets?06:24
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alex_xuliuyulong: yes, we can, as Pike is open, just need some reviews on the spec first06:25
liuyulongalex_xu, thanks, :)06:26
alex_xuliuyulong: np :)06:26
openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Avoid forcing translation on logging calls  https://review.openstack.org/41387606:32
liuyulongalex_xu, hi, could you please approve this bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/rebuild-keypair-reset on pike cycle?06:34
liuyulongalex_xu, and remove the -2 here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379128/, : )06:35
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alex_xuliuyulong: I will remove -2 after the spec approved. The BP only can be approved after the spec approved06:36
liuyulongalex_xu, got it, thanks.06:36
alex_xuliuyulong: np06:37
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Microversion 2.43 - Enable cold migration with target host  https://review.openstack.org/40670706:53
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litaoalex_xu: I left some comments in my path06:57
alex_xulitao: actually the updated_at you seen in the API isn't the heartbeat timestamp06:58
alex_xulitao: for db driver, the 'last_seen_up' is the field for that https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/servicegroup/drivers/db.py#L6006:59
alex_xulitao: the updated_at's meaning actually changed by this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163060/2607:01
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litaoalex_xu: I think you meaning is just to decide the status of a service using 'last_seen_up'07:03
litaoalex_xu: I meaning the display of 'nova service-list07:04
litao'07:04
alex_xulitao: no, I mean the meanning of 'updated_at' is for that07:04
litaoalex_xu: but the output of 'nova service-list' will display the column07:05
litaoalex_xu: updated_at07:05
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alex_xulitao: yes, 'updated_at' means 'the timestamp when db record of service updated'07:06
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litaoso i think the value should be updated regardless of db or mc driver07:07
litaoalex_xu: If it retains for a long time not to update, it will give us a doubt that is the service really up?07:08
alex_xulitao: the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163060/ separate the db record update time and the heartbeat update time. After that patch 'updated_at' means db record time. Maybe we can have another field for heartbeat timestamp, but i'm not sure07:09
alex_xulitao: yes, but07:09
alex_xu'updated_at' isn't for determine whether the service is up07:09
alex_xu'last_seen_at' and your change for mc is for determine that, but that isn't expose in the API07:10
litaoalex_xu: but i think it should be same as db drvier to be updated since it presents to us07:11
litaoalex_xu: or remove it when using mc driver07:11
alex_xulitao: db driver didn't update 'updated_at' also07:12
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litaoalex_xu: it does07:13
alex_xulitao: there is field 'State' for determine whether service is up, why you need to lookup another timestamp?07:13
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litaoalex_xu: I mean that it just a display, not to determine the state of a service07:14
litaoalex_xu: I just want to display the same output of 'nova service-list' when using mc driver07:15
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alex_xulitao: emm...I see now, it will update. sorry, I missed that. But it still didn't equal to the your change for the mc driver I think07:20
alex_xulitao: for db driver, 'updated_at' mixes db record update and heartbeat update.07:21
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litaoalex_xu: yes, so what do you think to deal it?07:24
alex_xulitao: I just comment on the patch07:24
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openstackgerritSergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova-specs master: PCI NUMA Policies  https://review.openstack.org/36114007:58
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Repropose tag-instance-when-boot  https://review.openstack.org/41531508:23
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Send out notifications when instance tags chaned  https://review.openstack.org/42956908:44
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Extend tag length limit to 80  https://review.openstack.org/42311208:53
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litaoalex_xu: thanks09:01
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alex_xulitao: np09:12
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FransUrboI'm trying to figure out why my second primary servers services won't come up. They're listed as 'down' with OSC, but the 'service:updated_at' column have been updated very recently - https://gist.github.com/FransUrbo/a24e99a331c2a252ecdc76a5c6f12b20 (that's for Cinder, but Nova shows the same problem).10:24
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FransUrbohttps://gist.github.com/FransUrbo/e11eb9d9311790c63729f16e108dbb1f (for nova)10:26
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BobBalljohnthetubaguy: Are you happy with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424428/ ?  Clearly the change missed RC1 but I'd love to get it in RC2 if we can get reviews soon10:29
johnthetubaguyBobBall: we spoke about it being eligible for RC2 on friday evening10:30
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johnthetubaguyBobBall: got my head in a spec right now, once my head is out of that, I will take a peak at it10:30
BobBallYeah - I spotted the change in the etherpad too.  Awesome, thanks!10:30
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johnthetubaguyno worries, it would be a shame for that bug to stick around another release10:31
BobBallIndeed.  Getting the fix in is my priority ATM so let me know what I need to do.10:32
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openstackgerritBob Ball proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: fix memory usage miscalculation  https://review.openstack.org/39485710:50
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: update the active migrations DS to support migration result  https://review.openstack.org/40926011:05
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: ensure live-migration success  https://review.openstack.org/40926111:05
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Fix network_label parameter type  https://review.openstack.org/42965911:39
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artom_In the api samples tests, if the response template doesn't exit, it's created with the response data11:53
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs master: WIP: Spec idea on the future of quotas for Nova  https://review.openstack.org/42967812:45
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johnthetubaguyBobBall: looks good to me12:58
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BobBallThanks johnthetubaguy13:04
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openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova master: abort_live_migration remove redundant check  https://review.openstack.org/30462113:45
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mriedemBobBall: i'm in a timewarp http://dd6b71949550285df7dc-dda4e480e005aaa13ec303551d2d8155.r49.cf1.rackcdn.com/76/429476/1/check/dsvm-tempest-neutron-network/00891c1//index.html13:56
mriedemclicking logs takes me to a dir that just takes me back13:56
BobBallmriedem: Did you take a jump to the left?  And then a step to the right?13:56
mriedemi forgot those steps13:57
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bauzasfolks, FYI, will mostly be afk this week because I'm organizing a local conf named http://snowcamp.io/13:57
bauzaswith ttx keynoting :p13:58
BobBallmriedem: It looks like the rest of the logs didn't upload curiously13:58
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BobBallmriedem: Received disconnect from 192.168.33.2: 2: Packet corrupt <-- or there were no other logs.13:58
BobBallmriedem: that test run didn't even get to the point of running devstack13:58
edleafe-Scheduler subteam meeting in 1 minute over in #openstack-meeting-alt13:59
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mriedemBobBall: ok i just rechecked it13:59
BobBallmriedem: We do put "run_tests.log" in both directories... which is perhaps unhelpful.13:59
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ttx\o/ and fresh snow14:00
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bauzasttx: zactly, 30cm waiting for you ;)14:02
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openstackgerritTimofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova master: nfs fix for xenial images  https://review.openstack.org/32946614:05
kashyapsdague: Heya, random ping -- someone (a Kernel developer, actually) at FOSDEM asked me yesterday: Why DevStack, why not...just use 'Gentoo'.  They were serious :-)14:06
sdaguekashyap: :)14:06
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sdaguesounds like they never actually looked into the issue14:06
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: console: Move proxies to 'console/proxy'  https://review.openstack.org/40819214:07
kashyapsdague: Yeah, right.  But they were not really mean or anything, just thinking out loud14:07
kashyapsdague: I explained them, also the reason why it's shell script (that a human / admin / operator should be able to read it, etc).14:07
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Deprecate two more nova-net options  https://review.openstack.org/41239014:10
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mriedemsuperdan: first, where is dansmith14:23
mriedemsuperdan: second, alex_xu and i have comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428824/14:23
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dansmithmriedem: okay coffee then that14:32
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mriedemmanila also reported a bug that the change for multi-cell instance listing broke them https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1659391 but so far i'm not able to find a job that failed due to that to debug it,14:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1659391 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Server list API does not show scheduled servers that are not assigned to any cell" [Undecided,New]14:34
mriedemplus the description is overly confusing with references to cells being disabled and default cells, which really throws me off14:34
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dansmithhmm, okay14:38
dansmithmriedem: well the description says that after that change, nova only returns instances assigned to cells14:39
dansmithwhich is 100% true :)14:39
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mriedemyeah i left some more questions, it's not clear to me if the server they are creating is done before simple_cell_setup or not14:40
dansmithlike before an upgrade you mean?14:40
mriedem"It can be seen when cell feature and services are disabled and default  cell hasn't been created yet. In this case all Nova VMs hang in  scheduled state and cannot be viewed."14:41
mriedemi was just asking wtf that meant14:41
mriedembut it looks like simple_cell_setup is run first http://logs.openstack.org/37/426737/12/check/gate-manila-tempest-dsvm-generic-no-share-servers-ubuntu-xenial-nv/064f0da/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2017-02-02_13_41_26_16614:41
mriedemand then they create a server later http://logs.openstack.org/37/426737/12/check/gate-manila-tempest-dsvm-generic-no-share-servers-ubuntu-xenial-nv/064f0da/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2017-02-02_13_45_01_03514:42
dansmithwell, the first part of that sentence isn't valid either14:42
mriedemi think they mean cells v114:42
dansmiththis is one of the reasons I wish we had used a different name than cells14:43
mriedembut yeah that totally threw me off when first reading this14:43
dansmiththere's a lot of confusion that has stemmed from that decision14:43
mriedemhaving said all that, the whole 'what don't you get about this bug' attitude in the report makes me kind of not care either14:43
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mriedemunless it's not unique to them14:44
dansmithyeah14:44
dansmiththe change they're referencing has been in for like three weeks now right?14:44
mriedemmaybe i'll just revert their workaround and see if it fails on the same thing again and then debug from there14:44
mriedemyeah, landed on 1/24 and they worked around it on 1/28 it looks like14:45
dansmithdoubt anyone else has had their gate completely shutdown for three weeks14:45
sfinucanThere's probably a much better solution, but hacky hack for opening a Python module path in vim https://that.guru/blog/open-python-paths-with-vim/14:45
dansmithand just before rc2 they bring it up.. nice14:45
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mriedemthe bug was actually reported awhile ago14:47
mriedem1/2514:47
mriedemthe day after your change landed https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/165939114:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1659391 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Server list API does not show scheduled servers that are not assigned to any cell" [Undecided,New]14:47
mriedemwe just don't triage our bugs14:47
mriedemeharney: not sure if you saw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429476/ but if you have that recreate env for your nfs volume snapshot issue, it'd be cool if you could test that against a paused vm, because i'm not sure if that will work or not14:49
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eharneymriedem: i'll give it a shot14:52
mriedemeharney: thanks14:53
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Update the upgrades part of devref  https://review.openstack.org/42882414:55
dansmithmriedem: ah, okay14:56
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macszbauzas: i might be late, 5min tops14:58
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bauzasmacsz: no worries, I'll write up an etherpad14:59
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macszbauzas: back15:04
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macszbauzas: sorry, hit the heavy traffic and was driving while the meeting was on - which etherpad?15:08
bauzasmacsz: just started https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-scheduler-pike15:08
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mriedemjohnthetubaguy: you were +2 on PS1, are you still happy with this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428824/15:12
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openstackgerritPavel Gluschak (scsnow) proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Runtime image type detection  https://review.openstack.org/42974515:13
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bauzasmriedem: FWIW, I'm totally fine with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428824/15:20
mriedembauzas: i thought you were supposed to be teaching kids about devops while skiing down a mountain or something?15:21
bauzasmriedem: starting Wed :)15:21
mriedemwtf15:21
mriedemyou told everyone like 5 times you'd be gone in 25 minutes15:21
bauzasheh15:21
bauzasnah, just went to school for $daughter but back15:21
mriedemoh i see15:21
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bauzasnow, I need some homework support15:22
bauzasbut15:22
bauzasI'm still around15:22
bauzasand starting Wed, will be off because of a conference15:22
mriedemok, well i'm leaving for a couple of hours15:22
* bauzas is sorry for "live my life" discussions :)15:23
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mriedemheh15:23
mriedemi just can't keep up with your active schedule15:23
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/nova master: DNM - test tripleo without nova api in WSGI/apache  https://review.openstack.org/42900815:25
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs master: WIP: Spec idea on the future of quotas for Nova  https://review.openstack.org/42967815:39
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Reserve migration placeholders for Ocata backports  https://review.openstack.org/42790015:40
dansmithwe should probably merge this now ^15:41
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digabauzas: Hi15:45
digabauzas: sorry got delay due to dinner15:45
macszdiga: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-scheduler-pike15:45
digamacsz: okay, will go through it15:46
digamacsz: I dont know if someone is working on Ironic side15:48
digamacsz: but its essential thing15:48
jrolldiga: macsz: we plan o figure out that upgrade path problem at PTG sometime, if that's what you're asking about15:54
macszjroll: that answers the question :)15:54
jroll:D15:54
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mdboothlyarwood: Incidentally, it turns out your swap_volume patch is required for my nfs patch. I was seeing a log warning from my patch about unmounting a volume which supposedly wasn't mounted. Turns out the root cause was swap_volume disconnecting the wrong volume.16:04
mdboothRebased my change on yours and the problem goes away.16:04
diana_clarkeDoes anyone know off the top of their head how to run the functional mysql nova tests locally? Environment variables, etc?16:04
lyarwoodmdbooth: ah nice16:04
mdboothlyarwood: Well, does in my testing, anyway. I should push the rebase and re-run ci.16:04
digajroll: Yep16:06
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mdboothlyarwood: Mind if I rebase swap_volume, btw?16:10
mdboothI have a minor clash with your findmnt change, which merged after the base of your swap_volume change16:11
mdboothSo it would be convenient to me to have both.16:11
lyarwoodmdbooth: nope, go ahead16:11
mdboothThanks16:11
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openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Reconnect volumes and encryptors during a hard reboot  https://review.openstack.org/40038416:13
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Remove redundant bdm serial mangling and saving during swap_volume  https://review.openstack.org/42736416:13
openstackgerritMatthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Fix races with nfs volume mount/umount  https://review.openstack.org/38385916:13
lyarwoodmdbooth: ^ that's another small change that takes a while to get your head around if you have any time tomorrow to review16:14
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dansmithmelwitt: wanna look this over? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429056/16:26
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openstackgerritPushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] Placement api: Add json_error_formatter to defaults  https://review.openstack.org/39519416:28
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openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: update the active migrations DS to support migration result  https://review.openstack.org/40926016:31
openstackgerritsahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: ensure live-migration success  https://review.openstack.org/40926116:31
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melwittdansmith: done16:32
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dansmithmelwitt: thanks16:32
openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: encryptors: Switch to os-brick encryptor classes  https://review.openstack.org/39159716:33
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dansmithmelwitt: cdent: FWIW, the reason I used a naked "placement" is because I'm referring to placement api, service, database, catalog entry, etc as a group16:35
dansmith"placement service" would be fine too, but... that was my thought process16:35
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cdentdansmith: yeah, thus the "fine as is". I think "service" is a nice to have, because it's hard to be sure that "placement" on its own is a proper noun and not just some random thing, like layout of the knives and forks on the table.16:36
melwittdansmith: I see, thanks for clarifying. that makes it make a lot more sense16:37
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pumaranikarcdent, johnthetubaguy https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395194/ updated patchset for json error formatter. can you please quickly review and let me know that this is what we are expecting. ?16:39
edleafecdent: Capitalization maybe? E.g.: 'placement' (random thing) vs. 'Placement' (the resource thingy)16:39
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cdentedleafe: because it is new, I'm still not certain that's enough. All of us here think of it as this well known things, but it is not.16:39
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cdentpumaranikar: yeah, that looks like a good way to go assuming it works well. How do you feel about it?16:48
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pumaranikarcdent, thanks for quick review. Yes it will work. Only thing is we need to modify decorator everywhere16:49
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pumaranikarcdent, thats why I thought of middleware initially.16:50
cdentthat's okay, I think, as it is a pretty simple change and in any case, no matter how we add, we have to change a bunch of files to remove the keyword arg from all the raised exceptions16:50
cdentI think to get a middleware version that actually worked properly would be considerably more complex (because of the need to parse headers and some response bodies)16:51
pumaranikarcdent, yes. that makes sense.16:51
pumaranikarcdent, i will try to update this today in all places.16:52
cdentpumaranikar: you could consider doing a stack of changes where you change each file in handlers/*.py in a different patch16:52
pumaranikarcdent, yes good idea. It would be easy for review.16:53
* cdent nods16:53
pumaranikarcdent, are we ok with class name in wrapper file ? :)16:55
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cdentI think it is good enough. If people don't like it we can change it easily enough during the review process16:56
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pumaranikarcdent, ok. Will let you know once i make changes atleast in all allocations related actions16:57
cdentcool, looking forward to it16:58
edleafecdent: First pass at functional code paths for placement testing: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-placement-functional16:58
edleafecdent: Now to disappear into meetings16:58
cdentedleafe: cool, I'll look at that either this evening or tomorrow morning16:58
edleafecdent: thanks. Just wanted to get something down before I got sucked into other things16:59
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cdent✔16:59
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mriedemdansmith: the revert on that manila change passed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429729/ :)17:03
mriedemso i guess it's already fixed...17:03
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Handle InstanceInvalidState for os-assisted-volume-snapshots  https://review.openstack.org/42947617:16
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mriedemalex_xu: gmann: oomichi: i'm asserting that we don't need a microversion change for ^ but open to being correct17:19
mriedem*corrected17:19
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cfriesenmriedem: what about a suspended guest?17:28
mriedemcfriesen: i guess we do allow that for regular snapshots17:29
mriedemi thought something was wonky with suspended instances in a volume-backed instance flow, but might be thinking of something else17:30
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dansmithmriedem: nice17:33
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mriedemcfriesen: ooo i actually had that backward17:37
mriedemcfriesen: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/9ae5b2306b7a7cc9e77c77292256b13926920ead/nova/compute/api.py#L280517:37
mriedemwe only allow active/stopped/suspended for volume-backed snapshot in the "normal" flow17:37
mriedemso i'll change my patch to follow that17:38
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cfriesenmriedem: do we not support paused because we don't bother quiescing the disk first?17:40
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mriedemit does quiesce, https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/9ae5b2306b7a7cc9e77c77292256b13926920ead/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L191317:42
mriedemand if that fails, it snapshots w/o quiesce17:42
mriedemso maybe paused would work too,17:42
mriedemi just haven't tested it17:42
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mriedemi'd have to get a devstack + nfs plugin setup to test this out, which would take some time17:43
dansmithsomeone should hit this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427981/17:43
dansmithlast doc change on the books for rc217:43
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dansmithmriedem: this is on the list for rc2...should I spend time reviewing it or what? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424428/17:44
mriedemdansmith: yeah17:44
cfriesenmriedem: I meant quiesce before pausing...since otherwise there could potentially be data loss in the snapshot....but maybe we'd get the same with suspend.  I don't know enough about qemu behaviour in pause vs suspend17:44
mriedemoh before pause,17:45
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/9ae5b2306b7a7cc9e77c77292256b13926920ead/nova/virt/libvirt/guest.py#L56617:45
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Default live_migration_progress_timeout to off  https://review.openstack.org/42979817:46
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praveenHi mriedem , One help!17:47
praveenThere is an observation.. Lets suppose project quota for max number of vms is set as 5. 3 Vms are already up and running into that project. Now, when user triggers another 3 Vms at one go as multiple deployment then 2 vms gets deployed succesfully but another VM does not.. which is correct because of quota error... But there is no indication/error message which gets shown into logs or UI.....17:47
praveen...Is this the way multipe server create behaves?17:47
praveenI found below lines in compute API reference wiki - Not sure if it says same thing ??17:47
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praveen"Error handling for multiple create is not as consistent as for single server create, and there is no guarantee that all the servers will be built. This call should generally be avoided in favor of clients doing direct individual server creates."17:47
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mriedemcfriesen: i always get confused between paused and suspended with qemu17:47
mriedemsince the code for pause in nova calls suspend on the domain17:47
mriedemhttps://wiki.libvirt.org/page/VM_lifecycle#States_that_a_guest_domain_can_be_in17:47
cfriesenmriedem: okay, so pause just immediately suspends the domain, while suspend does a managedSave on the domain.17:47
johnthetubaguymriedem: pkoniszewski: I wonder if we should look at getting the above change into RC2 https://review.openstack.org/429798 causes live-migration failures, some stress testing we were doing just hit this bug.17:48
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mriedemjohnthetubaguy: when was live_migration_progress_timeout added?17:49
johnthetubaguymriedem: I will check, I thought it was a while ago17:50
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cfriesenmriedem: 2015, by dbp.  git commit da33ab4f17:51
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Handle InstanceInvalidState for os-assisted-volume-snapshots  https://review.openstack.org/42947617:51
mriedemcfriesen: johnthetubaguy: yeah so since liberty17:52
mriedemcfriesen: cburgess: are either of you using live_migration_progress_timeout ? are you at liberty or newer yet?17:52
cfriesenmriedem: we're on Mitaka, using:17:54
cfriesenlive_migration_progress_timeout=15017:54
cfriesenlive_migration_completion_timeout=80017:54
melwittcfriesen, mriedem: for the regular snapshot path (not snapshot_volume_backed), there's code that saves the memory state of the domain if it's in PAUSED state. that's why PAUSED is okay for snapshot but not for snapshot_volume_backed, I think https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L1637-L164217:54
mriedempraveen: is min_count provided with the server create request?17:56
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mriedempraveen: this is the code that handles quota checks and reservations when creating instances https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/9ae5b2306b7a7cc9e77c77292256b13926920ead/nova/compute/api.py#L29917:56
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praveenno i guess17:56
johnthetubaguymriedem: the bug gives interesting details, basically its broken and never did much other than spot false positives, it would seem17:56
mriedempraveen: i don't know without recreating, but assume if you want 3 you need to specify min_count=317:57
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: i'm hesitant to make that kind of change in rc2 for a thing that's been around since liberty17:57
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johnthetubaguymriedem: this just turns off a thing that randomly makes live-migrate fail, all the old timeouts still trigger as before17:58
praveenmriedem: Thanks. We are setting "max_count" to 3.17:59
johnthetubaguymriedem: most folks don't hit it, because they do shared storage, so their live-migrations take less that 150 seconds, or at least thats what its looking like17:59
praveenmriedem: i will check with "min_count" .18:00
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mriedemjohnthetubaguy: for ocata rc2, if you have updated wording for the config option with a known issue reno or something, i'm more comfortable with that18:00
mriedemi.e. "if you're not using shared storage, this could cause issues, see bug"18:01
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cfriesenjohnthetubaguy: if it's hitting that check doesn't that mean it hasn't transferred data for a substantial amount of time?18:01
johnthetubaguymriedem: yeah, that makes sense, I am cooking the reno now, with more context in the git commit message18:01
mriedemdansmith: backports are up for those 2 merged docs changes18:01
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata18:01
johnthetubaguycfriesen: more details are in the bug, basically we are miss-interpreting the data we get back from QEMU, so it might be making progress and we still think it hasn't18:02
dansmithmriedem: ack18:02
johnthetubaguycfriesen: that and during block_migration, we are busy, but will show no progress (apparently, anyways)18:02
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cfriesenjohnthetubaguy: mriedem: it looks like locally we changed it to use info.data_processed rather than info.data_remaining18:05
melwittdansmith: are you working on the bfv patch today or do you mind if I hack on it? assuming it's still on the nice-to-have list for rc218:05
dansmithmelwitt: I'm not, so go for it18:05
mriedemcfriesen: you and your local hacks18:05
melwittdansmith: cool, thanks18:05
johnthetubaguycfriesen: oh, that might work better, although I think data_processed can be bigger that the total, which means you might never hit the timeout, but I am not sure.18:06
johnthetubaguycfriesen: that might support just turning it off quickly though, I guess18:06
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cfriesenjohnthetubaguy: mriedem: we're basically just checking whether we've transferred some data since last time.  I think it'd be better to check forward progress on the disk or the RAM since it doesn't help if you're transferring data but not keeping up with the rate of dirtying.18:07
johnthetubaguycfriesen: pkoniszewski added lots of details in the bug, but there are other issues in there too it seems18:08
mriedemmdbooth: just fyi, you don't need this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395709/18:09
mriedemmdbooth: we have the nfs job in nova's experimental queue18:09
mriedemto run it on your change, just leave a comment with "check experimental"18:09
cfriesenjohnthetubaguy: I had originally commented on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1583145, but that was marked as a dupe of 1644248.18:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1644248 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "duplicate for #1583145 Nova incorrectly tracks live migration progress" [High,Confirmed]18:09
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: questions in here, maybe you can explain them away? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424428/818:10
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cfriesenmriedem: johnthetubaguy: based on the commit message, the intent was to try to detect the case where the guest is dirtying faster than we can keep up and abort it rather than wait till the overall migration timeout expires.18:13
johnthetubaguydansmith: replied with the horrible truth on the nicera thing, but agreed with your test issue, not sure how that would work18:13
cfriesenmriedem: johnthetubaguy: Ideally what we'd want is whether the full amount of data to transfer calculated by qemu at the beginning of each iteration is going down....not sure there's any way to get that though.18:15
johnthetubaguycfriesen: right, thats what pkoniszewski was looking into adding in libvirt and QEMU I think, but thats years away from distros I guess18:16
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mriedemjohnthetubaguy: dansmith: fyi that i'm out of here in about a half hour,18:17
mriedemfin18:17
dansmithmriedem: for how long?18:19
mriedemseveral hours18:19
dansmithack18:20
dansmithapproved18:20
mriedemthank you18:20
mriedemthe alarming lack of fires today has made me not care about sitting in front of a computer18:20
cfriesenjohnthetubaguy: right, in that case it probably does make sense to remove this in Pike since it doesn't help.18:20
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Default live_migration_progress_timeout to off  https://review.openstack.org/42979818:28
johnthetubaguycfriesen: does the above description make more sense now ^18:29
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mriedemmelwitt: posted some comments/questions in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427981/18:34
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mriedemowalsh-afk raises a good point about whether or not the hosts are up (compute_nodes entries created) before running discover_hosts18:35
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melwittmriedem: thanks. it got approved a couple of minutes earlier. I can do a follow up to address your comments. or maybe roll them into my existing follow up that adds the cells v1 steps https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42907518:38
mriedemi'd leave the cells v1 patch for just cells v1 and handle additional cleanups in a separate change18:39
pkoniszewskicfriesen: so info.data_remaining is not useful at all, it is not correleted with whole live migration process, but only with a single iteration18:39
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pkoniszewskicfriesen: libvirt would need to expose something like low watermark for the whole process18:40
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Default live_migration_progress_timeout to off  https://review.openstack.org/42979818:50
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openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: RT now adds proper Ironic inventory  https://review.openstack.org/40447219:08
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openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: RT now adds proper Ironic inventory  https://review.openstack.org/40447219:09
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cfriesenjohnthetubaguy: pkoniszewski: agreed...reviewing latest now.   where there earlier discussions about whether to do complete removal in Pike, or do we still need to decide that?19:12
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pkoniszewskicfriesen: i see no point in keeping broken bits19:43
pkoniszewskiand those bits can cause headache to operators19:44
jaypipespkoniszewski: ++19:48
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cfriesenpkoniszewski: are you planning on submitting the removal for Pike?  If not, I could take it.21:08
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openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Allow pattern-based substitutions in CellMapping URLs  https://review.openstack.org/42991022:43
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oomichialex_xu: can you take a look at a critical patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410006/ ?23:39
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* oomichi saying is not True23:39
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