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openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Add BDM to InstancePayload https://review.openstack.org/448779 | 00:16 |
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dtp | mriedem where's the [who's going to boston] page? | 00:39 |
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mriedem | dansmith: remind me which services can be in cell0 | 00:47 |
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dansmith | mriedem: anything but compute | 00:51 |
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mriedem | hmm | 00:55 |
mriedem | weird | 00:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Steven Webster proposed openstack/nova master: Update nova network info when doing rebuild for evacuate operation https://review.openstack.org/382853 | 01:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Steven Webster proposed openstack/nova master: Fix port update exception when unshelving an instance with PCI devices https://review.openstack.org/453938 | 01:01 |
mriedem | dansmith: alright i've done all i could https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442162/ | 01:03 |
mriedem | +2s up and down before and after that one though | 01:03 |
mriedem | it should be easy to resolve, just missing some error handling in other apis | 01:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Support tag instances when boot https://review.openstack.org/394321 | 01:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add deprecate-nova-consoleauth spec https://review.openstack.org/450063 | 04:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: List/show all server migration types https://review.openstack.org/430608 | 04:57 |
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openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Remove version 1.1 support https://review.openstack.org/453980 | 05:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Lingyong Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Use HostAddressOpt for opts that accept IP and hostnames https://review.openstack.org/453991 | 06:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Silvan Kaiser proposed openstack/nova master: Removes potentially bad exit value from accepted list in Quobyte volume driver https://review.openstack.org/453537 | 06:41 |
openstackgerrit | Spencer Yu proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Nova client should retry with Retry-After value https://review.openstack.org/447766 | 06:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Support tag instances when boot https://review.openstack.org/394321 | 06:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the usage of extension black/white list opt in scheduler hints https://review.openstack.org/450835 | 07:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove config opts for extension black/white list https://review.openstack.org/450836 | 07:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Spencer Yu proposed openstack/nova master: Some ip addresses in unit tests are invalid https://review.openstack.org/454014 | 07:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Allow PUT and POST without bodies https://review.openstack.org/447625 | 07:37 |
openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova master: placement: Add Traits API to placement service https://review.openstack.org/376200 | 07:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Tadas Ustinavičius proposed openstack/nova master: Implements: blueprint custom-emulator-path https://review.openstack.org/454018 | 07:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Spencer Yu proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Nova client should retry with Retry-After value https://review.openstack.org/447766 | 07:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Shunli Zhou proposed openstack/nova master: Transform servergroup.create notification https://review.openstack.org/454023 | 07:52 |
openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove config opts for extension black/white list https://review.openstack.org/450836 | 07:53 |
openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the extension check for os-networks in servers API https://review.openstack.org/450837 | 07:54 |
openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the json-schema extension point of server create https://review.openstack.org/451194 | 07:54 |
alex_xu | gmann: ^ apprecate for that :) | 07:54 |
alex_xu | s/apprecate/appreciate | 07:55 |
openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the stevedore extension point for server create https://review.openstack.org/451195 | 07:55 |
openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for '/servers' endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/445864 | 07:55 |
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gmann | alex_xu: np!, just rebased the series. | 07:56 |
gmann | alex_xu: i think you can re approve those as just rebase ? | 07:57 |
alex_xu | gmann: yea, I think I can | 07:57 |
openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove '/servers' extensions info from controllers https://review.openstack.org/453571 | 07:57 |
gmann | alex_xu: great, hope you had good vacation :) | 07:58 |
alex_xu | gmann: thanks a lot :) | 07:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Deprecate floatingip actions proxy API https://review.openstack.org/386888 | 08:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Deprecate floatingip actions proxy API https://review.openstack.org/386888 | 08:02 |
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openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: fixed typos and reword stable api doc https://review.openstack.org/442310 | 08:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Lingyong Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Use HostAddressOpt for opts that accept IP and hostnames https://review.openstack.org/453991 | 08:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Pavel Gluschak (scsnow) proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: honor disk_format=ploop image metadata property https://review.openstack.org/429745 | 08:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Add a removeFloatingIp example https://review.openstack.org/453026 | 08:33 |
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rsjethani | Hi i am getting error: Require both a host and instance NUMA topology to fit instance on host | 08:35 |
johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: gmann: quick question on this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450836 | 08:37 |
rsjethani | on kvm host all is fine but if i use virtualbox or even vmware esxi based host i get above error | 08:37 |
johnthetubaguy | rsjethani: that sounds like you are requesting a feature that isn't supported on that virt driver type, sfinucan may know more about that | 08:38 |
johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: gmann: wasn't 100% sure about the reno | 08:38 |
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rsjethani | johnthetubaguy, but this only happens in a multinode setup if i go for one vm setup it works everwhere | 08:39 |
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gmann | johnthetubaguy: alex_xu but we do remove those from config options also | 08:40 |
gmann | johnthetubaguy: alex_xu https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450836/4/nova/conf/osapi_v21.py | 08:40 |
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johnthetubaguy | rsjethani: sorry, not sure why that would happen, sfinucan may be online in a bit and could help | 08:41 |
rsjethani | johnthetubaguy, ok thanks will ask him | 08:41 |
johnthetubaguy | rsjethani: certainly not all drivers support NUMA awareness, sounds like a host config vs flavor vs driver miss-match to me, but I don't remember the details enough | 08:42 |
johnthetubaguy | rsjethani: I would check the nova.conf on both of your hosts, to make sure they match up, but thats a total random guess | 08:42 |
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johnthetubaguy | gmann: sorry, not sure I get your question, totally +1 removing those configs | 08:42 |
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johnthetubaguy | gmann: it looks like we did make use of them until they were removed in that patch though? | 08:43 |
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gmann | johnthetubaguy: i mean those options were deprecated and in that patch we removed so need reno right | 08:43 |
johnthetubaguy | yep, we need the reno | 08:43 |
johnthetubaguy | its just it says the options were not honored anywhere, but I think they were | 08:43 |
gmann | ahh, i got now | 08:43 |
openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Remove config opts for extension black/white list https://review.openstack.org/450836 | 08:44 |
gmann | johnthetubaguy: alex_xu did we disable/enable extensions based on that ? | 08:45 |
johnthetubaguy | gmann: thats what the code suggests, yeah | 08:45 |
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gmann | johnthetubaguy: looks fine now, +1 thanks. | 08:46 |
openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Remove config opts for extension black/white list https://review.openstack.org/450836 | 08:47 |
johnthetubaguy | gmann: I added some more actions for the operators, does that make sense? | 08:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Enable cold migration with target host(1/2) https://review.openstack.org/408955 | 08:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Enable cold migration with target host(2/2) https://review.openstack.org/408964 | 08:50 |
openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional tests for cold migration to same host https://review.openstack.org/414926 | 08:50 |
openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Add parameters in cold migrate action https://review.openstack.org/410042 | 08:51 |
gmann | johnthetubaguy: nice, +1 on policy things, operator need to care extra no unwanted things are exposed now | 08:52 |
openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Avoid forcing translation on logging calls https://review.openstack.org/413876 | 08:52 |
gmann | i am wondering if someone encounter that | 08:52 |
openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Avoid forcing translation on logging calls https://review.openstack.org/413876 | 08:52 |
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johnthetubaguy | gmann: I think anyone that set the extension list and has overridden policy has to worry about that | 08:53 |
johnthetubaguy | thats probably like three people, but I know some folks do that | 08:53 |
gmann | yea | 08:54 |
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gmann | let's see if we get some mail on that like on user_id enforcement stuff | 08:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.volume_detach notification https://review.openstack.org/408676 | 08:59 |
openstackgerrit | NidhiMittalHada proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Nova volume-attach doesn't care for device name https://review.openstack.org/454048 | 09:04 |
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johnthetubaguy | gmann: its OK, this one is just work folks need to do, they can still disable all those APIs using policy. The user_id folks couldn't meet their use cases because we don't have hierarchical quotas | 09:33 |
gmann | johnthetubaguy: yea, they can alter based on their need | 09:34 |
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sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: Looks like rsjethani didn't hang around | 09:34 |
sfinucan | fwiw, NUMA support is libvirt/kvm only | 09:35 |
sfinucan | oh, and HyperV now/soon, thanks to claudiub | 09:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Shunli Zhou proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox from unit/cells/test_cells_messaging.py https://review.openstack.org/448021 | 09:36 |
claudiub | numa support? | 09:40 |
claudiub | since a while actually | 09:40 |
claudiub | when was it... ocata or newton | 09:40 |
claudiub | ocata | 09:41 |
claudiub | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282407/ | 09:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Shunli Zhou proposed openstack/nova master: Transform servergroup.create notification https://review.openstack.org/454023 | 10:42 |
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kashyap | Thos running current DevStack, got a successful run with today's Git? | 10:54 |
kashyap | I'm hittting this: | 10:54 |
kashyap | 2017-04-06 10:49:03.077 | IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/stack/src/cloud/requirements/.venv/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pyparsing-2.1.10.dist-info/METADATA' | 10:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Allow PUT and POST without bodies https://review.openstack.org/447625 | 11:00 |
openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Idempotent PUT /resource_classes/{name} https://review.openstack.org/448791 | 11:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: placement: Add Traits API to placement service https://review.openstack.org/376200 | 11:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Lingyong Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Use HostAddressOpt for opts that accept IP and hostnames https://review.openstack.org/453991 | 11:03 |
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kashyap | It seems to be an instance of - https://github.com/pypa/setuptools/issues/951 ("race condition replacing a setuptools dependency IOError METADATA no such file") | 11:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Update "Reserve NUMA nodes with PCI devices attached" https://review.openstack.org/454117 | 11:33 |
sfinucan | What's the official policy on the nova command-line clients now (vs. the libs)? Are they still recommended/supported? | 11:34 |
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openstackgerrit | XieYingYun proposed openstack/nova master: Optimize the link address https://review.openstack.org/454120 | 11:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Dinesh Bhor proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor: Move post method to APIValidationTestCase base class https://review.openstack.org/364687 | 11:43 |
openstackgerrit | Lingyong Xu proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/454130 | 11:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.volume_detach notification https://review.openstack.org/408676 | 12:05 |
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openstackgerrit | XueFeng Liu proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Revise `nova list` description https://review.openstack.org/454148 | 12:16 |
johnthetubaguy | sfinucan: which ones? | 12:19 |
johnthetubaguy | sfinucan: I think the problem is getting microversion support into OSC, I lost track of how that is going | 12:20 |
sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: For example, `nova list` | 12:20 |
sfinucan | vs. `openstack server list` | 12:20 |
johnthetubaguy | sfinucan: right, so specifically just python-novaclient then | 12:21 |
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sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: Oops - s/clients/client/ | 12:21 |
sfinucan | Yeah - python-novaclient | 12:21 |
johnthetubaguy | ah, cool | 12:22 |
gabor_antal | johnthetubaguy, sfinucan: would you please have a look at volume_attach notification transformation? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401992/ | 12:22 |
johnthetubaguy | I mean I hate nova-manage, but we will always need something to bootstrap | 12:22 |
johnthetubaguy | gabor_antal: I think the notifications are on my hit list, just snowed under right now | 12:22 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/453896 | 12:22 |
johnthetubaguy | sfinucan: trying to find the reference on this | 12:22 |
gabor_antal | johnthetubaguy: thanks | 12:23 |
johnthetubaguy | sfinucan: here we go: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/specs/deprecate-cli.html | 12:23 |
johnthetubaguy | sfinucan: I believe thats still the plan, the issue is microversion | 12:23 |
johnthetubaguy | s | 12:23 |
johnthetubaguy | sfinucan: I believe we are still adding features in python-novaclient till we get OSC caught up | 12:24 |
sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: ^ that's the key bit | 12:24 |
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sfinucan | I wasn't sure whether we should be reviewing/accepting new features to python-novaclient | 12:24 |
johnthetubaguy | I believe we still are | 12:25 |
sfinucan | It seems we should | 12:25 |
sfinucan | indeed | 12:25 |
johnthetubaguy | I would check with matt when he is on, he might know how the other efforts are going, or maybe sdague thinking about it | 12:25 |
sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: I'll do just that | 12:27 |
sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: Also, seeing as you've expressed displeasure with nova-manage, you might want to look at [1] at some point [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bp/move-nova-cmds-to-cliff | 12:28 |
sfinucan | #shamelessplug | 12:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Bob Ball proposed openstack/nova master: Use physical utilisation for cached images https://review.openstack.org/353862 | 12:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.volume_attach notification https://review.openstack.org/401992 | 13:21 |
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njohnston | Hi, quick question! Did the os-quota-sets API exist in Icehouse? I have an old Icehouse installation I am trying to grab info from, and when I curl to https://${NOVA_URL}/v2/os-quota-sets/${TENANT_ID}/detail I get a 404 Not Found. | 13:23 |
mriedem | peter-hamilton: your team might be able to help with this https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1516703 | 13:24 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1516703 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "crypto.py generates certs with SHA-1 digest" [Medium,New] | 13:24 |
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peter-hamilton | mriedem: taking a look | 13:32 |
johnthetubaguy | sfinucan: I thought we said no to that spec at the PTG? | 13:32 |
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johnthetubaguy | sfinucan: something tells me we didn't hit that till you had left though, so it wasn't a real discussion | 13:33 |
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sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: It was no to use click and yes to using cliff | 13:33 |
sfinucan | that's per mriedem's comments on the spec, anyway | 13:33 |
johnthetubaguy | sfinucan: ah... so they need more different names :) | 13:33 |
sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: You're telling me. I wrote a sphinx extension for cliff and then referenced click in all the docs for same | 13:34 |
sfinucan | :) | 13:34 |
sfinucan | Anyway, long story short: I don't need a spec for the work I'm doing this cycle, so I've retargeted that to Queens. Still using the blueprint to group the work though | 13:34 |
johnthetubaguy | OK | 13:35 |
johnthetubaguy | I have filed a correction note in my brian | 13:35 |
mriedem | njohnston: yes https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/icehouse-eol/nova/api/openstack/compute/contrib/quotas.py#L240 | 13:35 |
openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.volume_detach notification https://review.openstack.org/408676 | 13:35 |
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mriedem | njohnston: https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/#quota-sets-os-quota-sets | 13:36 |
johnthetubaguy | mriedem: njohnston: I wonder if you have to turn on the extension in the API, if you go back that far, or rather your config might have turned it off | 13:36 |
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mriedem | johnthetubaguy: wanted to ask you about this given you're familiarity with all things caching scheduler https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453916/ | 13:38 |
mriedem | johnthetubaguy: i assume rax is setting CONF.filter_scheduler.track_instance_changes = False? | 13:38 |
njohnston | johnthetubaguy mriedem: I assumed that call was how Horizon was displaying it's array of quota pie charts, since the data returned is pretty much perfect for it. So since I see the pie charts in my Horizon I was hopeful it would work. | 13:38 |
mriedem | so the computes don't send instance updates to the caching scheduler, which doesn't use them | 13:38 |
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mriedem | njohnston: to debug your curl request, you could use nova client with the --debug option | 13:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Dinesh Bhor proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor: Move post method to APIValidationTestCase base class https://review.openstack.org/364687 | 13:39 |
mriedem | njohnston: nova --debug quota-show tenant_id | 13:39 |
johnthetubaguy | mriedem: not sure we are running a new enough nova | 13:39 |
mriedem | * nova --debug quota-show --tenant <tenant_id> --detail | 13:39 |
mriedem | johnthetubaguy: i think those are pretty old options | 13:40 |
mriedem | for the instance update stuff | 13:40 |
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mriedem | johnthetubaguy: i just noticed yesterday the config docs saying track_instance_updates is only used for the filter scheduler, but it defaults to true and so nova compute is always sending those, unless you change it when you change the scheduler.driver | 13:41 |
mriedem | seems we could be smarter and just not look at that option at all if you're not using the filter scheduler | 13:41 |
mriedem | way back before we had a hard list of scheduler drivers and it was just loaded from classpath, we couldn't really do this | 13:41 |
mriedem | but i think it's safe now | 13:41 |
johnthetubaguy | maybe, added a comment on that patch, we don't actually configure the scheduler settings on any node other than the scheduler | 13:42 |
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johnthetubaguy | but I like your approach, it makes more sense overall, we just need to train folks about configuration more | 13:42 |
johnthetubaguy | mriedem: actually, I think we proabably just turned that off because we didn't use filters that need that info | 13:44 |
johnthetubaguy | mriedem: but anyways, seems worth a peak | 13:44 |
mriedem | so i was worried about that, | 13:45 |
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mriedem | because if you don't configure the scheduler things on the compute node, | 13:45 |
mriedem | that means you get the default, so nova compute is doing all of this extra rpc traffic to send something your scheduler doesn't care about | 13:45 |
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johnthetubaguy | yeah, that does suck | 13:45 |
johnthetubaguy | we had this debate a few times, we should really look at being more specific on the idea of what configurations should be set where | 13:46 |
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mriedem | i didn't realize until yesterday that this was scheduler config used on the comptues | 13:47 |
mriedem | but yeah it's pretty nasty | 13:47 |
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mriedem | i guess the silver lining is, | 13:47 |
mriedem | when caching scheduler is gone, | 13:47 |
mriedem | so is this config option | 13:47 |
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mriedem | because the only options you'd have then are filter, chance and fake, and the latter two are test-only | 13:47 |
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bauzas | mriedem: remember we have 3 drivers in tree | 13:48 |
bauzas | not only 2 | 13:48 |
mriedem | we have 4 drivers in tree | 13:48 |
mriedem | caching, filter, chance and fake | 13:48 |
mriedem | the scheduler.driver option uses the choices kwarg | 13:49 |
mriedem | so unless you fork that, it's a ValueError to specify something else | 13:49 |
johnthetubaguy | remembers macsz saying something about stevedoor^ | 13:49 |
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mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/scheduler.py#L58 | 13:50 |
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mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/scheduler.py#L79 | 13:50 |
mriedem | i don't see how ^ is right since we use choices | 13:50 |
mriedem | "A custom scheduler driver. In this case, you will be responsible for creating and maintaining the entry point in your 'setup.cfg' file" | 13:50 |
mriedem | choices=("filter_scheduler", "caching_scheduler", "chance_scheduler", "fake_scheduler"), | 13:51 |
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bauzas | mriedem: FWIW, the FakeScheduler is not existing in tree | 13:51 |
bauzas | afaik, it's only in the tests tree | 13:51 |
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bauzas | you can't deploy it | 13:51 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, its meant to be stevedoor I think | 13:51 |
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dansmith | mriedem: yeah that scheduler config is nasty, and it's an upcall :( | 13:52 |
bauzas | johnthetubaguy: we already load with stevedore :) | 13:52 |
dansmith | mriedem: that was part of the source of my frustration with this crap last week | 13:52 |
johnthetubaguy | oh, maybe choices was a step too far then | 13:52 |
bauzas | dansmith: oh, you weren't knowing that computes fanout the scheduler ? | 13:52 |
mriedem | the choices definitely breaks any stevedore loading of custom drivers | 13:52 |
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dansmith | bauzas: I knew we had this but it's not something I think about much | 13:53 |
bauzas | dansmith: maybe we could use placement rather, because it's for providing aggregate and instance values | 13:53 |
dansmith | bauzas: we can't use placement for the affinity bits yet, which is what this is for, AFAIK | 13:54 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/fe3d6dba3d1db8f97dab4baffcc11dda56368096 | 13:54 |
bauzas | dansmith: I created those RPCAPI methods because I wasn't accepting the scheduler filters calling DB | 13:54 |
bauzas | mriedem: anyway, operators can run custom filters that call their own scheduler :) | 13:54 |
mriedem | anyway i'm pretty sure https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/scheduler.py#L79 doesn't work | 13:54 |
mriedem | bauzas: that's fine | 13:54 |
mriedem | but if you can't load up your own scheduler "driver" we should remove this line https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/scheduler.py#L79 | 13:55 |
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bauzas | mriedem: I'm fine with stopping to have a custom driver | 13:55 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/6832a417c93046750ec7eff51eb59be802fd70dc | 13:55 |
dane-fichter | mriedem: peter mentioned that you wanted us to look into https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1516703 ? | 13:55 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1516703 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "crypto.py generates certs with SHA-1 digest" [Medium,New] | 13:55 |
bauzas | rather, in case operators want to use their own scheduler, they just need to use a filter | 13:55 |
johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, leaving the custom bit in there is misleading/inconsistent | 13:55 |
mriedem | dane-fichter: yeah it's just an old bug, if it doesn't make sense we should invalidate or mark as won't fix | 13:56 |
bauzas | mriedem: like I also said, https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/scheduler.py#L61 is wrong, because fake_scheduler doesn't exist in tree | 13:56 |
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johnthetubaguy | mriedem: that might actually be a hyper-v thing from claudiub and team? | 13:56 |
mriedem | it has to be in choices to workaround oslo | 13:56 |
mriedem | johnthetubaguy: not sure what that means | 13:57 |
dane-fichter | mriedem: nova cert is being removed this cycle right? Seems like this functionality should be removed as well | 13:57 |
johnthetubaguy | mriedem: we added that for hyper-v I think | 13:57 |
mriedem | dane-fichter: there is a spec for that | 13:57 |
mriedem | johnthetubaguy: added what for hyperv? | 13:57 |
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mriedem | fake_scheduler? | 13:57 |
johnthetubaguy | x.509 cert generation | 13:57 |
johnthetubaguy | to replace the ssh keypair type | 13:57 |
bauzas | dansmith: anyway, I tried to think about reschedules | 13:57 |
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bauzas | dansmith: I still think we need them | 13:57 |
bauzas | because of X or Y | 13:57 |
dansmith | X or Y? | 13:58 |
mriedem | nova meeting in 2 minutes | 13:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Roman Podoliaka proposed openstack/osc-placement master: WIP: implement API version 1.0 https://review.openstack.org/451877 | 14:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove a fallacy in scheduler.driver config option help text https://review.openstack.org/454196 | 14:02 |
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claudiub | mriedem: johnthetubaguy you mean the x509 certificates? | 14:04 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, for windows auth | 14:04 |
claudiub | those would the windows equivalent of ssh keys | 14:04 |
claudiub | so, not hyper-v specific, windows guests specific | 14:04 |
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dane-fichter | johnthetubaguy: So what I'm hearing is that generate_winrm_x509_cert() is still needed? | 14:05 |
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johnthetubaguy | dane-fichter: I think so, yeah | 14:05 |
johnthetubaguy | dane-fichter: even after we kill nova-cert | 14:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional test for two-cell scheduler behaviors https://review.openstack.org/452006 | 14:05 |
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dane-fichter | johnthetubaguy: ok. good to know. | 14:05 |
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johnthetubaguy | dane-fichter: although I am willing to believe its something we should deprecate in the API, us generating certs is probably the wrong thing to do for winRM, but I am not sure | 14:06 |
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johnthetubaguy | dane-fichter: needs a look, I guess | 14:06 |
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dane-fichter | johnthetubaguy: I'll take a look at it. | 14:08 |
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ildikov | johnthetubaguy: mriedem: lyarwood: hi, a quick reminder that we plan to switch to 1600 UTC with the Cinder-Nova meeting today | 14:16 |
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johnthetubaguy | ah, I forgot about tht | 14:17 |
ildikov | johnthetubaguy: sorry, I should've sent out a reminder mail earlier, I only got to propose a patch to change the slot officially, it's not merged yet | 14:17 |
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ildikov | johnthetubaguy: can you make it to the earlier slot? | 14:17 |
johnthetubaguy | ildikov: that should be OK | 14:18 |
ildikov | johnthetubaguy: cool, tnx | 14:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Scott Moser proposed openstack/nova master: Limit exposure of network device types to the guest. https://review.openstack.org/400883 | 14:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Scott Moser proposed openstack/nova master: Limit exposure of network device types to the guest. https://review.openstack.org/400883 | 14:27 |
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mriedem | sfinucan: artom: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/functional/test_metadata.py is what i was thinking of | 14:38 |
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mriedem | we'd have to fix mikal's sins here for network data https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/functional/test_metadata.py#L64 | 14:38 |
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mriedem | since ^ is all using nova-network right now | 14:39 |
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bauzas | mriedem: wait, we unset instance.host when we offload the instance from the compute ? | 14:44 |
bauzas | (after shelving) | 14:44 |
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bauzas | I know it requires a reschedule, but I was thinking we were keeping the reference before the unshelve and that were just overriding the host value | 14:45 |
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dansmith | bauzas: no, once offloaded, it loses host, AFAIK | 14:45 |
bauzas | dansmith: so in the compute? | 14:45 |
bauzas | because AFAIK, you shelve | 14:45 |
bauzas | and then, a couple of mins after (config) then it's offloaded | 14:45 |
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bauzas | AFAIK, it's a periodic task running on the compute which offloads the instance off | 14:46 |
dansmith | right | 14:46 |
bauzas | dansmith: okay, for my knowledge, reading again the code | 14:47 |
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mriedem | we immediately offload by default | 14:51 |
mriedem | bauzas: ^ | 14:51 |
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mriedem | it's based on config | 14:51 |
johnthetubaguy | mriedem: +1 | 14:51 |
mriedem | the time defaults to 0 | 14:51 |
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mriedem | and then yes the instance does not have a host or node set on it | 14:51 |
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bauzas | mriedem: right, because the opt value is 0 | 14:52 |
bauzas | mriedem: that's what I meant sorry | 14:53 |
bauzas | it's time-based | 14:53 |
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bauzas | if 0, do that now | 14:53 |
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mriedem | heads up, apparently pypi mirror issues | 14:58 |
mriedem | so jobs are failing | 14:58 |
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dansmith | yeah | 15:01 |
dansmith | was just seeing that | 15:01 |
openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova master: Support HTTP CONNECT in websocket proxy https://review.openstack.org/454226 | 15:02 |
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bauzas | mriedem: dansmith: I'm puzzled, can't find where instance.host is unset in the compute manager method for shelve offloading | 15:26 |
mriedem | bauzas: in the RT | 15:27 |
mriedem | super tight coupling | 15:27 |
mriedem | equals super fun | 15:27 |
bauzas | mriedem: orly? man | 15:27 |
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dansmith | here? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L4400-L4400 | 15:27 |
mriedem | actually yeah | 15:27 |
mriedem | not RT | 15:27 |
mriedem | i was thinking of ALLOW_RESOURCE_REMOVAL in rt | 15:28 |
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dansmith | took me like eight whole seconds :) | 15:28 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L4396 is what i was thinking of | 15:28 |
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mriedem | which uses https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py#L939 | 15:28 |
mriedem | and https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/vm_states.py#L78 | 15:28 |
mriedem | alaski had to draw that picture for me once | 15:28 |
mriedem | i'll always be indebted | 15:28 |
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bauzas | mriedem: I was surprised when you said that hence my "orly" | 15:31 |
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bauzas | mriedem: because I don't remember where in RT we do set instance.host | 15:31 |
bauzas | we play with compute tracking | 15:32 |
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bauzas | so it would defend the purpose of the RT if we would play with the instance fields in there | 15:32 |
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bauzas | dansmith: thanks, missed that - so I'm blind | 15:32 |
dansmith | :) | 15:32 |
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mriedem | i would not be surprised at all of RT or Claims messed with instance fields | 15:33 |
mriedem | s/of/if/ | 15:33 |
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bauzas | mriedem: they look them up | 15:34 |
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bauzas | mriedem: but they don't touch them | 15:34 |
bauzas | or I would seriously -2 any change for that | 15:34 |
bauzas | resource *tracking* | 15:35 |
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bauzas | not resource *setting* :p | 15:35 |
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mriedem | you might -2 that but that doesn't mean someone else won't +W before you see it | 15:36 |
cdent | fa | 15:38 |
cdent | ww | 15:38 |
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bauzas | mriedem: question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453859/1/nova/compute/api.py | 15:41 |
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mriedem | shoot | 15:41 |
bauzas | mriedem: if we nullify instance.host when shelve_offload, why do we need to verify the instance state too ? | 15:42 |
mriedem | bauzas: read the commit message? | 15:42 |
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bauzas | mriedem: ok, this time, you can *really* blame me in public | 15:43 |
mriedem | basically that whole block is about cases where the instance isn't scheduled to a cell | 15:43 |
mriedem | or that was the original assumption | 15:43 |
mriedem | that assumption breaks down when instance.host is None and vm_state is shelved offloaded | 15:43 |
mriedem | b/c that means the instance did get scheduled to a cell | 15:43 |
mriedem | and we need to do the old style local delete flow below | 15:43 |
mriedem | all explained in the commit message in exquisite detail | 15:43 |
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bauzas | mriedem: I see L1974 so I understand now | 15:45 |
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mriedem | fwiw i'm going to be trying to unwind this mess once this fix is in | 15:45 |
mriedem | dansmith: i eagerly await your updates to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442162/ | 15:46 |
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mriedem | b/c then we can get the bottom 5 changes in | 15:46 |
dansmith | mriedem: yep in my queue | 15:47 |
mriedem | i drank one too many cups of coffee to counteract my nyquil hangover and now i'm all amped up | 15:47 |
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mriedem | ildikov: just an issue with the wording in the reno https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444253/ | 16:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Teach HostAPI about cells https://review.openstack.org/442162 | 16:40 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Sort CellMappingList.get_all() for safety https://review.openstack.org/443174 | 16:40 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add get_by_instance_uuids() to InstanceMappingList https://review.openstack.org/443292 | 16:40 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Clean up ClientRouter debt https://review.openstack.org/444487 | 16:40 |
mriedem | dansmith: are you still using this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421399/ | 16:40 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make server_groups determine deleted-ness from InstanceMappingList https://review.openstack.org/443293 | 16:40 |
dansmith | mriedem: have you reviewed that yet? | 16:40 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Remove Mitaka-era service version check https://review.openstack.org/442861 | 16:40 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add workaround to disable group policy check upcall https://review.openstack.org/442736 | 16:40 |
mriedem | dansmith: reviewed what yet? | 16:40 |
dansmith | mriedem: the thing I just pushed up | 16:40 |
dansmith | mriedem: what about now? | 16:40 |
dansmith | mriedem: now? | 16:40 |
mriedem | oh | 16:40 |
mriedem | i see | 16:40 |
mriedem | let me get out my red pen | 16:41 |
dansmith | mriedem: I haven't gotten to the actual subnode part of my devstack patch to know if I need that again or not | 16:41 |
dansmith | mriedem: I think I will | 16:41 |
dansmith | mriedem: if it's bothering you I can resubmit it under my name so you can abandon | 16:41 |
dansmith | I've long since given up trying to keep my dashboard clean | 16:41 |
ildikov | mriedem: cool, I'll fix it now, tnx | 16:41 |
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mriedem | dansmith: it's fine, i just clean up every few weeks | 16:44 |
mdnadeem | ildikov, dansmith , mriedem , Hello guys, i have a query | 16:45 |
mdnadeem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/newton/nova/scheduler/filters/aggregate_image_properties_isolation.py#L42 | 16:45 |
mdnadeem | ^^ It returns only core image property | 16:46 |
mriedem | yes | 16:46 |
mriedem | your out of tree image properties won't work | 16:46 |
mdnadeem | I have set some custom property to my image , however i cant get it there | 16:46 |
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mriedem | because of https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/newton/nova/objects/image_meta.py#L213 | 16:46 |
mdnadeem | mriedem, any way to use custom image property ? | 16:47 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/newton/nova/objects/image_meta.py#L478 | 16:47 |
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mriedem | mdnadeem: upstream it | 16:47 |
mriedem | or hack that object and live with the version changes | 16:47 |
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mdnadeem | mriedem, is this a bug ? | 16:48 |
mriedem | mdnadeem: no, it's by design | 16:49 |
mriedem | a wild west of custom image properties is a barrier to interoperability | 16:49 |
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mriedem | flavor extra specs is still a wild west if that helps | 16:49 |
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mdnadeem | mriedem, I have a requirement to use custom image property, should i propose a fix upstream for the same? | 16:49 |
mriedem | mdnadeem: if you have an image property that makes sense to upstream then i encourage you to do so | 16:50 |
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mriedem | because chances are someone else has a similar use case | 16:50 |
mdnadeem | mriedem, ok, Thanks a lot :) | 16:50 |
mriedem | yw | 16:50 |
mdnadeem | mriedem++ | 16:50 |
mriedem | dansmith: i'm brain isn't working on why api/scheduler/conductor show up in cell0 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442162/19/nova/compute/api.py@4433 - i thought those would only show up if we start the services? | 16:52 |
mriedem | s/i'm/my | 16:52 |
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mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/8d9bf947a4c8654a30e016a5d95d9bec55447506/nova/service.py#L154 | 16:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed openstack/nova master: Deprecate the Cinder API v2 support https://review.openstack.org/444253 | 16:56 |
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dansmith | mriedem: they're going to show up in whatever db is configured in their config file | 17:00 |
dansmith | mriedem: which in my devstack patch, and in real deploys after we're past this hump, will be cell0 I expect | 17:01 |
mriedem | right, which means you f'ed up and started services with a nova.conf pointing at cell0 right? | 17:01 |
mriedem | hmm | 17:01 |
dansmith | I mean, you could just choose a random cell to have them show up in, but I dunno why you would | 17:01 |
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mriedem | yeah i guess that's a good point | 17:01 |
mriedem | they aren't in the api db | 17:01 |
mriedem | they wouldn't be in a random cell db | 17:01 |
dansmith | right | 17:02 |
dansmith | cell0 seems like a fine place for them to be | 17:02 |
mriedem | right now they are the nova db b/c we have 1 cell | 17:02 |
dansmith | right | 17:02 |
mriedem | ok | 17:02 |
mriedem | and nova-compute goes in nova1, nova2, etc et | 17:02 |
dansmith | right never any computes in cell0, | 17:02 |
mriedem | i'll pay you $5 for that topology diagram | 17:02 |
dansmith | but the api level services seem appropriate | 17:02 |
dansmith | hah | 17:02 |
mriedem | my friend abe lincoln would love to see it | 17:02 |
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dansmith | I have a shitty one sketched out for my talk in boston, but it's more op-focused with pictures of computers and stuff | 17:03 |
dansmith | doesn't really have this level of detail | 17:04 |
mriedem | you could do two pictures :) | 17:04 |
mriedem | high level cells topology | 17:04 |
mriedem | and then what's inside a cell | 17:04 |
mriedem | showing the superconductor thing will be important | 17:04 |
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dansmith | yeah | 17:09 |
mriedem | done with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442162/ btw | 17:09 |
mriedem | gonna get lunch | 17:09 |
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melwitt | jroll: do you know how ironic nodes get registered as resource providers in placement? I'm not finding anything in the code so far | 17:24 |
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jroll | melwitt: they're each presented as a node to the resource tracker, which does the registering | 17:24 |
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melwitt | jroll: okay, thanks. I see the stuff in resource tracker but didn't see the connection with the ironic driver | 17:25 |
jroll | melwitt: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py#L754 | 17:25 |
jroll | that returns CUSTOM_FOO or whatever from ironic | 17:25 |
jroll | ironic driver* | 17:25 |
melwitt | ah, thank you | 17:25 |
jroll | no problem | 17:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Teach HostAPI about cells https://review.openstack.org/442162 | 17:32 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make scheduler target cells to get compute node instance info https://review.openstack.org/439891 | 17:32 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Sort CellMappingList.get_all() for safety https://review.openstack.org/443174 | 17:32 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add get_by_instance_uuids() to InstanceMappingList https://review.openstack.org/443292 | 17:32 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Clean up ClientRouter debt https://review.openstack.org/444487 | 17:32 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make server_groups determine deleted-ness from InstanceMappingList https://review.openstack.org/443293 | 17:32 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Remove Mitaka-era service version check https://review.openstack.org/442861 | 17:32 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add workaround to disable group policy check upcall https://review.openstack.org/442736 | 17:32 |
dansmith | mriedem: bottom patch got hit by the mirror thing so I rebased and re-pushed.. so it needs a re-=W | 17:32 |
dansmith | er, re-+W | 17:33 |
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mriedem | dansmith: got it, so the first 5 are ready | 17:57 |
mriedem | looks like typo city in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442736/ | 17:57 |
dansmith | yeah | 17:58 |
dansmith | thanks | 17:58 |
cfriesen | does anyone know why we default to not returning the userdata when showing server details to a normal user, but show it for an admin user? | 17:58 |
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mriedem | nope | 18:03 |
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EmilienM | mriedem: hey, I think I'll abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453338/ if nobody approves it, it needed to land before you tag next week but since're approaching next week, I can we can wait now for the tag... | 18:04 |
mriedem | wfm | 18:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Sort CellMappingList.get_all() for safety https://review.openstack.org/443174 | 18:11 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Clean up ClientRouter debt https://review.openstack.org/444487 | 18:11 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add workaround to disable group policy check upcall https://review.openstack.org/442736 | 18:11 |
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cdent | melwitt: do I recall that you were going to adjust the project/user association in placement to use usages? | 18:14 |
melwitt | cdent: yes, I had intended to propose an amendment to the spec yesterday but didn't get to it yet | 18:15 |
cdent | ah, cool, that would explain why I can't find it :) thanks | 18:15 |
melwitt | heh, sorry about that | 18:15 |
cdent | no problem, you're the one who is making with the good works | 18:16 |
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openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the extension check for os-networks in servers API https://review.openstack.org/450837 | 18:51 |
openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the json-schema extension point of server create https://review.openstack.org/451194 | 18:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the stevedore extension point for server create https://review.openstack.org/451195 | 18:52 |
sdague | mriedem: you want in on - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448882 before I approve (nova cert removal) | 18:54 |
sdague | ? | 18:54 |
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diana_clarke | Anyone have time to put my last nova patch out of its misery? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447688/ thx! | 18:59 |
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dansmith | I bet sdague wants that one | 19:01 |
mriedem | sdague: probably | 19:01 |
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stevemar | mriedem: why you gotta break osc for! | 19:02 |
mriedem | stevemar: novaclient 8.0? | 19:02 |
stevemar | yah | 19:02 |
mriedem | stevemar: upper-constraints? | 19:02 |
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stevemar | i assume the gate is fine, someone pinged me from BB about latest pip install of osc is broken | 19:03 |
stevemar | cause they don't UC | 19:03 |
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mriedem | nuts to them | 19:03 |
mriedem | i don't work for BB anymore sucka | 19:03 |
stevemar | :) | 19:03 |
stevemar | we'll fix it up | 19:03 |
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mriedem | btw, more than 6 months to notice the deprecation warning | 19:04 |
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mriedem | sdague: did anyone from ec2api ever chime in? | 19:04 |
mriedem | b/c this will break them | 19:05 |
mriedem | oh i see ftersin did | 19:05 |
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mriedem | sdague: +W | 19:10 |
mriedem | when can we remove os-cloudpipe? | 19:12 |
mriedem | macsz: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-nova-cert | 19:13 |
mriedem | :( | 19:13 |
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mriedem | i created it | 19:16 |
macsz | mriedem: ? | 19:16 |
mriedem | you hadn't created the actual bp in lp | 19:16 |
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macsz | oh, i lost something | 19:16 |
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mriedem | who wants it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453859/ | 19:18 |
mriedem | dansmith: i'll trade you ^ for your workaround patch | 19:18 |
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dansmith | k | 19:19 |
macsz | waswas wondering what happened but it seems that once more you were faster than me and created the bp, mriedem | 19:19 |
dansmith | mriedem: heh, that conflicts with my hostapi patch.. damn you | 19:19 |
mriedem | it shouldn't | 19:20 |
mriedem | yours doesn't touch the delete path | 19:20 |
sdague | mriedem: when ever anyone writes the deprecation spec | 19:20 |
sdague | I am sure that it hasn't worked in years | 19:21 |
mriedem | i would, but (1) i don't want to and (2) i'm not sure i even understand what it is to explain it and why we want to remove it, except it's not supported | 19:21 |
mriedem | some kind of direct vpn image download to the vm or something? | 19:21 |
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mriedem | ooo https://www.mirantis.com/blog/cloudpipe-image-creation-automation/ | 19:22 |
dansmith | mriedem: well, gerrit says it does.. it's fine anyway | 19:22 |
mriedem | damn the link to the cactus release docs don't work anymore... | 19:22 |
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sdague | mriedem: it all depends on vlan nova network stuff right? which means whenever the great nova-network delete happens it's all definitely bust | 19:25 |
openstackgerrit | Sujitha proposed openstack/nova master: Add sync_instances action in os-cells API https://review.openstack.org/453366 | 19:26 |
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mriedem | yeah i guess | 19:26 |
mriedem | so cloudpipe just basically creates a vm and then you ssh into that vm to get into the internal tenant network? | 19:27 |
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mriedem | yeah anyway, nova-network plus unmaintained plus neutron vpnaas | 19:28 |
mriedem | equals death | 19:28 |
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mriedem | ooo https://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2012/06/20/setup-cloud-pipe-vpn-in-openstack/ talks about using nova x509-create-cert which relies on none other than the nova-cert service... | 19:33 |
mriedem | which we just said we were going to kill | 19:33 |
mriedem | so, as part of the nova-cert removal, we probably also need to deprecate os-cloudpipe | 19:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Mathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova master: Add ability to signal and perform online volume size change https://review.openstack.org/454322 | 19:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Change livesnapshot to true by default https://review.openstack.org/454323 | 20:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Deprecate certs commands and APIs https://review.openstack.org/454326 | 20:08 |
mriedem | macsz: ^ | 20:08 |
macsz | mriedem: should i draft a spec for it? | 20:09 |
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mriedem | macsz: for what? | 20:12 |
mriedem | cloudpipe/ | 20:12 |
mriedem | sure | 20:12 |
macsz | or can we smuggle it under the cert deprecation banner? | 20:12 |
sdague | macsz: I'm pro smuggle | 20:12 |
mriedem | if we smuggle, we should probably amend the spec | 20:13 |
sdague | mriedem: yeh | 20:13 |
macsz | the spec was merged, but i can also do a follow-up patch that modifies the current spec | 20:13 |
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sdague | macsz: ++ an ammend would be great | 20:13 |
macsz | yeah, shorter way to say what i meant | 20:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Sihan Wang proposed openstack/nova master: Update checking vm state in vmware driver https://review.openstack.org/454328 | 20:20 |
macsz | mriedem: it seems that os-cloudpipe is already deprecated | 20:22 |
macsz | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/api-ref/source/os-cloudpipe.inc | 20:22 |
mriedem | just in the docs | 20:23 |
mriedem | it doesn't return an error though on any microversion like 2.36 would for listing networks | 20:23 |
mriedem | i don't know if we're proposing to just remove it, like os-certificates, or deprecating it with a microversion, but if we remove nova-network and nova-cert, then it seems kind of pointless to do the microversoin | 20:24 |
mriedem | sdague: ^ thoughts? | 20:24 |
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macsz | doc mentions that os-cloudpipe works only with nova-net, so there is really no point in having it around, with or without nova-cert, it seems | 20:26 |
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mriedem | we still have nova-net | 20:27 |
mriedem | although | 20:27 |
mriedem | nova-net is cells v1 only now | 20:27 |
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mriedem | and i assume os-cloudpipe doesn't work with cells v1 | 20:27 |
mriedem | it might, it's a weird orchestration api that creates an instance for you | 20:29 |
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mriedem | with a configured vpn image | 20:29 |
mriedem | so the cloudpipe api should have been deprecated with 2.36 when we did the other nova-net stuff, like multinic | 20:30 |
mriedem | alex_xu: is deprecating the multinic api https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384261/ | 20:30 |
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mriedem | since it's nova-net really | 20:30 |
mriedem | maybe we should do cloudpipe and multinic in the same spec? | 20:30 |
openstackgerrit | Sihan Wang proposed openstack/nova master: Update checking vm state in vmware driver https://review.openstack.org/454328 | 20:30 |
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mriedem | but if you need os-certificates to use os-cloudpipe and we remove os-certificates, then... | 20:31 |
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sdague | mriedem: yeh, I feel like we should just couple it to the os-certificates delete | 20:31 |
mriedem | that's fine | 20:31 |
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macsz | is there a spec for os-certificates? | 20:33 |
mriedem | dansmith: so i'm trying to think about impacts with your workaround config, and what if any other config options we should note are related to that one, like track_instance_changes | 20:33 |
mriedem | since i think track_instance_changes is tied to affinity | 20:33 |
mriedem | macsz: your one for removing nova-cert :) | 20:33 |
mriedem | remember?! | 20:34 |
macsz | xD | 20:34 |
macsz | yeah, i do... :D | 20:34 |
mriedem | dansmith: i'm trying to sort out where the instance info stuff that the computes send up to the scheduler is used | 20:34 |
macsz | did not connect the dots between nova-cert and os-certificates ;) | 20:34 |
openstackgerrit | Maciej Szankin proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add os-cloudpipe to remove-nova-cert spec https://review.openstack.org/454332 | 20:37 |
dansmith | mriedem: yeah, so track changes will also not work, so maybe I should mention that in there for the connection | 20:43 |
mriedem | dansmith: i left a comment about that in the review | 20:43 |
dansmith | okay | 20:43 |
mriedem | i'm just looking at how all of this crap gets used | 20:44 |
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dansmith | it's fairly terribad | 20:44 |
mriedem | and all of it is just for the affinity/anti-affinity filters/weighers it looks like | 20:44 |
dansmith | right | 20:44 |
dansmith | it's nuts | 20:44 |
mriedem | so a ton of code just for those | 20:44 |
dansmith | right | 20:44 |
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mriedem | ok i also need to update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453916/ since i didn't realize the compute manager and host manager were doing the exact same thing in the init | 20:44 |
dansmith | claims in the scheduler will let us do affinity without all that stuff | 20:44 |
cdent | mriedem: I haven't caught up on backlog, but are you looking at the stuff that does affinity based on live host/instance info? | 20:45 |
mriedem | so if you're using caching scheduler or not using these filters/weighers, and not paying attention to default options, you could have all of this extra rpc traffic and db lookups for nothing | 20:45 |
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mriedem | cdent: it's the instance info stuff in the host manager and scheduler filter yeah | 20:45 |
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dansmith | this mess is the source of my tweet from last week :) | 20:46 |
mriedem | dansmith: like https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/host_manager.py#L731 | 20:46 |
mriedem | if we knew you weren't using those filters/weighers, that could just be a noop | 20:46 |
mriedem | but, those are defaults so i guess... | 20:46 |
cdent | those are the things that make me say that we'll never have a fully single transaction placement engine | 20:46 |
dansmith | mriedem: well, also, | 20:46 |
dansmith | mriedem: compute sends instance info when an instance boots, | 20:46 |
dansmith | mriedem: but host manager just uses that as a trigger to re-query the db | 20:47 |
dansmith | it's madness | 20:47 |
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mriedem | to refresh it's cache right? | 20:47 |
dansmith | yeah | 20:47 |
dansmith | but it sends the whole instance, | 20:47 |
dansmith | and we just ignore it and re-query | 20:47 |
dansmith | unless it sends all of them, | 20:47 |
dansmith | and then we assume it's right | 20:47 |
mriedem | cripes | 20:48 |
dansmith | it's very complicated and wasteful | 20:48 |
mriedem | "ServerGroupAntiAffinityFilter", | 20:49 |
mriedem | "ServerGroupAffinityFilter", are default filters | 20:49 |
mriedem | and filter scheduler is default | 20:49 |
mriedem | and track_instance_changes is on by default | 20:49 |
mriedem | oh, and | 20:50 |
mriedem | all computes have a periodic task that run every 2 minutes by default to pull all instances from that host and send them to the scheduler | 20:50 |
cdent | huzzah | 20:51 |
dansmith | which nobody can have enabled at that frequency with a reasonable number of computes I'm sure | 20:51 |
mriedem | i wonder if that filters out deleted instances... | 20:51 |
mriedem | oh plus that does the big default joins | 20:51 |
dansmith | of course | 20:52 |
dansmith | go big or go home | 20:52 |
mriedem | well maybe we don't | 20:52 |
mriedem | we pass expected_attrs=[] | 20:53 |
mriedem | to try and trick that i think | 20:53 |
dansmith | okay yeah that won't do the joins then | 20:53 |
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dansmith | BUT | 20:53 |
dansmith | still stupid :) | 20:53 |
mriedem | but i wouldn't be surprised if there is an "if not expected_attrs: expected_attrs = DEFAULT_BIG_ASS_LIST" | 20:53 |
dansmith | no it checks =None | 20:53 |
dansmith | =None means default =[] means nothing | 20:53 |
mriedem | i was thinking the db api | 20:53 |
mriedem | so, | 20:54 |
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mriedem | instance_get_all_by_host in the db api, | 20:54 |
mriedem | does not filter out deleted instances | 20:54 |
dansmith | WAT | 20:54 |
mriedem | oh wait | 20:54 |
mriedem | model_query filters deleted right? | 20:54 |
dansmith | depends on context | 20:54 |
openstackgerrit | Sihan Wang proposed openstack/nova master: Update checking vm state in vmware driver https://review.openstack.org/454328 | 20:54 |
mriedem | def _instance_get_all_query(context, project_only=False, joins=None): | 20:56 |
mriedem | if joins is None: | 20:56 |
mriedem | joins = ['info_cache', 'security_groups'] | 20:56 |
mriedem | so we are at least joining on those mofos | 20:56 |
dansmith | but should be not =None there if we're passing =[] | 20:56 |
mriedem | not there | 20:56 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L2530 | 20:57 |
mriedem | we don't pass columns_to_join to _instance_get_all_query | 20:57 |
dansmith | you said we were passing expected_attrs=[] right? | 20:57 |
mriedem | so it's None | 20:57 |
mriedem | we pass [] to _instances_fill_metadata | 20:57 |
mriedem | but not _instance_get_all_query | 20:57 |
dansmith | ah | 20:57 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L2513 | 20:57 |
dansmith | so the funny thing is, | 20:57 |
dansmith | if we just sent an empty call to that update method on the scheduler, | 20:57 |
dansmith | it would do it itself, direct from the db, no big rpc involved | 20:58 |
dansmith | because remember this goes compute->conductor->compute->scheduler over rpc | 20:58 |
dansmith | but if you just call that method with an empty list, | 20:58 |
dansmith | scheduler will just pull it itself without any rpc | 20:58 |
cdent | ha! | 20:58 |
mriedem | that's _update_scheduler_instance_info ? | 20:58 |
dansmith | or maybe something else to fool it | 20:58 |
dansmith | whatever that scheduler rpc call is | 20:58 |
cdent | that's awesome | 20:58 |
dansmith | cdent: we should figure out more places to route that through | 20:59 |
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dansmith | compute->conductor->compute->twitter->facebook->compute->conductor->super-conductor->scheduler | 20:59 |
cdent | i think you left out the pigeon | 20:59 |
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dansmith | heh | 20:59 |
mriedem | dansmith: you're talking about this right? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/host_manager.py#L767 | 21:00 |
mriedem | where it does the full pull | 21:00 |
dansmith | mriedem: yeah | 21:00 |
mriedem | but that's only if it doesn't already have a list for the host | 21:00 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/host_manager.py#L752 | 21:01 |
mriedem | that gets created when the compute starts up | 21:01 |
mriedem | which is what we were talking about yesterday | 21:01 |
dansmith | sure, but we're still sending it | 21:01 |
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dansmith | for no reason | 21:01 |
mriedem | yes that's dumb too | 21:01 |
dansmith | we'd have to tweak the logic there just a bit, agreed | 21:01 |
mriedem | i'm just thinking https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/host_manager.py#L767 is a complete fallback | 21:01 |
mriedem | if the compute host didn't send the instances on startup | 21:02 |
mriedem | to register itself with the scheduler | 21:02 |
mriedem | err host manager | 21:02 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/host_manager.py#L761 is the compute start case | 21:02 |
mriedem | well, unless it's a new compute with no hosts | 21:02 |
dansmith | we only get here in the rpc call right? | 21:02 |
mriedem | yeah | 21:02 |
dansmith | otherwise if we need host info before it has called in, we just generate it ourself anyway | 21:02 |
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mriedem | _update_scheduler_instance_info in the compute manager is called on (1) startup and (2) when a new instance is created | 21:03 |
mriedem | yeah | 21:03 |
dansmith | and in a periodic right? | 21:03 |
mriedem | no | 21:03 |
mriedem | that's _sync_scheduler_instance_info | 21:03 |
mriedem | that sends the uuids | 21:03 |
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chatter29 | hey guys | 21:04 |
mriedem | dansmith: and in instance_uuids | 21:04 |
mriedem | if the set that the host manager knew about doesn't match what was passed in, it pulls them all from the db again | 21:04 |
mriedem | for that compute | 21:04 |
chatter29 | allah is doing | 21:04 |
chatter29 | sun is not doing allah is doing | 21:04 |
chatter29 | to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger | 21:04 |
dansmith | mriedem: okay yeah, I see | 21:05 |
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dansmith | mriedem: I was conflating those two I guess | 21:05 |
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dansmith | mriedem: why do we have to send the whole instance? | 21:06 |
mriedem | because the host manager caches the list by host | 21:06 |
dansmith | mriedem: we only really care about the uuids for affinity, AFAIK, but we're sending the instance a bunch of places from computemaanger | 21:06 |
mriedem | and then the affinity filter/weigher uses those | 21:06 |
dansmith | sure, but we neednly send the whole object for that | 21:06 |
mriedem | let me see how they use them | 21:07 |
dansmith | needn't | 21:07 |
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mriedem | back when these were simple single-level dicts it was maybe not as big a deal | 21:07 |
mriedem | now it's a behemoth of nested goodness | 21:07 |
mriedem | maybe this is why we fucking kill ram usage in a single node devstack run :) | 21:07 |
dansmith | same number of instances regardless :) | 21:07 |
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clarkb | mriedem: "remember when devstack needed 1GB of ram to run?" :) | 21:08 |
mriedem | instance group members are just instance uuids right? | 21:08 |
mriedem | yeah, so this whole big ass cache of hosts -> instances for the affinity filter/weigher JUST NEEDS UUIDS | 21:08 |
mriedem | 'members': fields.ListOfStringsField(nullable=True), | 21:09 |
mriedem | Yeah InstanceGroup.members is just instance uuids | 21:09 |
dansmith | mriedem: well, you can do single-instance affinity without a gorup | 21:09 |
dansmith | but again, | 21:09 |
dansmith | just an uuid :) | 21:10 |
mriedem | so we agree we don't need to catch the full instance object in the host manager right? | 21:10 |
mriedem | *cache | 21:10 |
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dansmith | AFAIK yeah | 21:10 |
mriedem | HOWEVER | 21:10 |
mriedem | you know if we changed it to just uuids, | 21:10 |
mriedem | we'd break someone's out of tree filter/weigher | 21:10 |
mriedem | that was using this to lookup some shit on the instance object fields | 21:11 |
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dansmith | EDONTCARE | 21:11 |
mriedem | like, my super kewl filter checks all instances that have instance.config_driver = True and puts them on the same host! | 21:11 |
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mriedem | i guess the answer for them is, well, you take the uuid, and go back to the db to look up the full instance object | 21:12 |
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cdent | yes, that | 21:12 |
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mriedem | ok, well, maybe i'll spend some time tinkering with this for the rest of the day, starting with the unnecessary joins in the db api | 21:14 |
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mriedem | since that shouldn't be controversial | 21:14 |
mriedem | what to name my topic branch... | 21:14 |
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openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Amend spec for placement project/user association https://review.openstack.org/454352 | 21:15 |
cdent | mriedem: I'm very interested in this stuff so if you could keep me in the loop that would be dandy and write a helacious complete commit message that would be awesome. I'm not sure I was able to extact all the good bits from you and dan talking | 21:16 |
mriedem | i'll try | 21:16 |
cdent | thanks | 21:16 |
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openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Amend spec for placement project/user association https://review.openstack.org/454352 | 21:28 |
mriedem | dansmith: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/put-host-manager-instance-info-on-a-diet | 21:28 |
mriedem | sdague: ^ | 21:28 |
mriedem | johnthetubaguy: ^ | 21:28 |
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mriedem | i'm going for specless blueprint just since it's a couple of changes | 21:28 |
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mnaser | hi everyone, i suspect that we're running into weird race conditions in the CI of Kolla related to the order of services being started.. is there a 'recommended' start list? | 21:30 |
openstackgerrit | Mathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Multiple Fixed-IPs support in network information https://review.openstack.org/312626 | 21:30 |
mriedem | mnaser: controller services first | 21:30 |
mriedem | computes at the end | 21:30 |
mnaser | mriedem besides that, the rest shouldn't matter too much (i.e. scheduler before conductor?) | 21:31 |
mriedem | scheduler depends on placement as of ocata | 21:31 |
mriedem | scheduler and conductor are codependent | 21:31 |
mriedem | bring up the api last? | 21:31 |
mriedem | yeah | 21:31 |
mnaser | mriedem right now, order is: placement => nova-api => nova-scheduler => nova-conductor => nova-consoleauth => nova-novncproxy => nova-spicehtml5proxy => nova-serialproxy => nova-compute | 21:32 |
mnaser | however that order leads to this happening in gate sometimes: NotFound: Basic.publish: (404) NOT_FOUND - no exchange 'scheduler_fanout' in vhost '/' | 21:32 |
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mriedem | this is a new problem? | 21:33 |
mnaser | i dont think its a nova issue but it seems to come and go so i was wondering if it was racing somewhere | 21:33 |
mriedem | never heard of that | 21:33 |
mnaser | okay, so must be a kolla thing, ill try to look some more | 21:33 |
mnaser | mriedem nvm, docker issue. its killing the process and mucking things up, sorry for noise | 21:34 |
mriedem | np | 21:35 |
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mriedem | yay! ^ me help good | 21:48 |
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mriedem | edleafe: trinary logic is much less readable to me when you're wrapping lines | 22:09 |
mriedem | especially when thrown into dict comprehension or something | 22:09 |
mriedem | just the worst | 22:09 |
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