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mriedem | dansmith: oh no | 00:14 |
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mriedem | TypeAffinityFilter uses instance.instance_type_id :( | 00:14 |
dansmith | sigh | 00:14 |
mriedem | "TypeAffinityFilter doesn't allow more than one VM type per host." | 00:15 |
mriedem | what a dumb filter | 00:15 |
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dansmith | well, | 00:17 |
mriedem | we could send a simple dict from the computes with just uuid and instance_type_id, or a simple object | 00:17 |
dansmith | if you want only one large per host I guess | 00:17 |
mriedem | InstanceInfo | 00:17 |
dansmith | you're already looking up all the instances, | 00:18 |
dansmith | you can know what their flavor is | 00:18 |
dansmith | also | 00:18 |
dansmith | instance_type_id will be wrong after a year of running your cloud anyway I'm sure | 00:18 |
dansmith | yeah, it's kinda dumb | 00:18 |
mriedem | well we're looking them up on either the compute or the scheduler | 00:19 |
mriedem | but yeah we have the info, but we have to send something specific from the computes | 00:19 |
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mriedem | and yeah the flavor id probably changes | 00:19 |
mriedem | derp | 00:19 |
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mriedem | let's just deprecate the filter :) | 00:20 |
dansmith | isn't it using the int id of the flavor? | 00:20 |
dansmith | that's what instance.instance_type_id is | 00:20 |
dansmith | which is even worse | 00:20 |
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mriedem | yes | 00:22 |
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mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/filters/type_filter.py#L35 | 00:22 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/filters/utils.py#L96 | 00:23 |
mriedem | so i had x1.large with an extra spec | 00:23 |
mriedem | something was wrong with it and i needed to 'update' it | 00:23 |
mriedem | so i deleted that flavor and recreated with a new x1.large as type id 2 | 00:23 |
mriedem | now both are on my same compute | 00:23 |
mriedem | even though they probably didn't fit anyway | 00:23 |
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mriedem | jogo added it 5 years ago | 00:27 |
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dansmith | mriedem: right | 00:33 |
mriedem | heh, shouldn't it be called TypeAntifAffinityFilter? | 00:33 |
mriedem | asked about it in the ops list | 00:34 |
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mriedem | dansmith: just noticed this http://logs.openstack.org/16/453916/4/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-py35-ubuntu-xenial/09850e6/logs/screen-n-sch.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2017-04-06_23_11_45_834 | 01:49 |
mriedem | looks like maybe that's just on startup and not causing build failures | 01:51 |
mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1680661 | 01:56 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1680661 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "HostMappingNotFound during update_instance_info" [Medium,Triaged] | 01:56 |
mriedem | yeah it's a race on startup | 01:56 |
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mriedem | the compute host is sending it's instance info (which is empty) to the scheduler before the compute host is mapped to the cell, and since it's an empty list the scheduler host manager tries to go back to the database to look up the instances on the compute node, which isn't mapped and we get the HostMappingNotFound | 01:57 |
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mriedem | seems the compute shouldn't be sending anything if there are no instances to send... | 02:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Handle new hosts for updating instance info in scheduler https://review.openstack.org/454426 | 02:12 |
openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Support tag instances when boot https://review.openstack.org/394321 | 02:15 |
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openstackgerrit | XieYingYun proposed openstack/nova master: Optimize the link address https://review.openstack.org/454120 | 02:23 |
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mriedem | gmann: you should take a look at this https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1680667 | 02:33 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1680667 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "TypeError: unorderable types: int() > str() in get_system_metadata_from_image" [Undecided,New] | 02:33 |
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mriedem | i really don't know how this works - but there are some functional tests that create a server by passing a URL for the flavorRef | 02:33 |
mriedem | but i don't see how that works, because the server create API looks up the flavor by id, expecting it to be an integer id, not a URL | 02:34 |
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mriedem | ah common.get_id_from_href is supposed to parse the url | 02:36 |
gmann | mriedem: i remember we stopped imageRef as url, but need to check for flavorRef | 02:36 |
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gmann | mriedem: flavorRef is not restricted to id only - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/validation/parameter_types.py#L323 | 02:38 |
mriedem | yeah it can be a url | 02:39 |
mriedem | we parse it here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/common.py#L254 | 02:40 |
gmann | yea - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py#L599 | 02:40 |
gmann | we did for imageRef as glance all work with uuid | 02:40 |
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mriedem | i suspect the test is failing because it's running at the same time as another test which maybe stubs out the flavor db query method | 02:43 |
mriedem | value = max(value or 0, flavor['root_gb'])" | 02:43 |
mriedem | TypeError: unorderable types: int() > str() | 02:43 |
mriedem | or, | 02:44 |
mriedem | it could be an image snapshot with min_disk stored with a string value | 02:44 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/453896 | 02:51 |
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gmann | but root_gb will be all int, stub db might be something causing this | 02:52 |
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mriedem | yeah i don't see anything | 02:53 |
mriedem | root_gb in all tests, at least functional tests, is an int | 02:54 |
mriedem | and i don't see min_disk set anywhere in tests | 02:54 |
mriedem | anyway, not the end of the world | 02:54 |
gmann | yea just greped on that | 02:55 |
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gmann | mriedem: i suspect this -https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/unit/fake_request_spec.py#L31 | 03:03 |
gmann | mriedem: image_fixtures - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/unit/image_fixtures.py#L54 | 03:04 |
mriedem | gmann: maybe the first, i'm seeing this in functional test runs so it shouldn't be the latter | 03:05 |
gmann | yea on functional db tests doing first one | 03:06 |
openstackgerrit | YuYang proposed openstack/nova master: VMware:fix get VM root device conditional verify https://review.openstack.org/454441 | 03:07 |
mriedem | gmann: yeah, that might be it | 03:08 |
mriedem | seems worth changing anyway | 03:08 |
mriedem | or, | 03:08 |
mriedem | the fake image service used in the tests needs to mimic the actual nova.image.glance code that casts min_disk to an int during show() | 03:09 |
gmann | yea | 03:09 |
gmann | mriedem: yea even many unit tests populate min_disk as string, we should change those to int to avoid any confusion | 03:09 |
gmann | mriedem: but that bug not reproducible always, its just happen on parallel tests run as you said | 03:10 |
gmann | may be we can give try and see if again it happen in case anywhere prob exist | 03:11 |
mriedem | let's see | 03:13 |
openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Image meta min_disk should be int in fake_request_spec https://review.openstack.org/454442 | 03:14 |
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mriedem | alright thanks for the help gmann | 03:22 |
mriedem | i've got to call it a day | 03:22 |
mriedem | ttyl | 03:22 |
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gmann | mrhillsman: thanks. ll review that | 03:23 |
gmann | oops mrhillsman ignore :) | 03:24 |
openstackgerrit | Shunli Zhou proposed openstack/nova master: Transform servergroup.create notification https://review.openstack.org/454023 | 03:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Add a removeFloatingIp example https://review.openstack.org/453026 | 06:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Tadas Ustinavičius proposed openstack/nova master: Updating blueprint with more informative note. https://review.openstack.org/445558 | 06:45 |
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openstackgerrit | YuYang proposed openstack/nova master: VMware:fix get VM root device conditional verify https://review.openstack.org/454441 | 06:52 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/453896 | 06:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Example verification for servers-actions.inc https://review.openstack.org/454565 | 07:11 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/453896 | 07:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.volume_attach notification https://review.openstack.org/401992 | 07:17 |
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jaosorior | gibi: do instance metadata updates push an instance.update notification? | 07:19 |
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jaosorior | gibi: also, what was the site for the notification work status? | 07:20 |
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gibi | jaosorior: hi! worklist is on https://vntburndown-gibi.rhcloud.com/index.html | 07:25 |
gibi | jaosorior: let me check the code to answer the instance.update on metadata question | 07:26 |
openstackgerrit | Maho Koshiya proposed openstack/nova master: Add interfaces functional negative tests https://review.openstack.org/442892 | 07:28 |
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jaosorior | gibi: thanks a lot | 07:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Sivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] API: Add os-migrateLive input parameters https://review.openstack.org/454578 | 07:39 |
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gibi | jaosorior: deleting a metadata has the notification code https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/instance.py#L1108 | 07:42 |
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jaosorior | gibi: but, setting it? | 07:43 |
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gibi | jaosorior: and there is notification for instance.save https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/instance.py#L794 but I have to look more | 07:43 |
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gibi | jaosorior: to see if that is called for metadata too | 07:43 |
jaosorior | instance.save ... interesting | 07:44 |
jaosorior | didn't know about that one | 07:44 |
openstackgerrit | Sivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] API: Add os-migrateLive input parameters https://review.openstack.org/454578 | 07:44 |
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seitan | Good morning. I'm struggling with my first blueprint in Nova. There are many points, where I fail with my patch (still haven't figured out correct workflow with gerrit). But patch submission should be second step as I'm guessing now. If I understand documentation correcly, - my blueprint has to be approved before submitting any code? If so, should I attend Nova IRC meeting next week and propose my blueprint there? My blueprint is small patch for | 07:54 |
seitan | Nova libvirt part: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/custom-emulator-path thank you for your help. | 07:54 |
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gibi | jaosorior: it seems that metadata change goes through instance.save so there should be notification but I will spin up a devstack and try it out | 07:57 |
jaosorior | gibi: dude! that would be awesome! | 07:58 |
jaosorior | gibi: is this something that works as well for legacy notifications? or is it exclusive for versioned notifications? | 07:58 |
jaosorior | gibi: also, instance.save is then called for both new instances and when updating instances? | 07:59 |
gibi | jaosorior: instance.update codepath quite similar for both legacy and versioned so it should work for both | 07:59 |
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gibi | jaosorior: when instance is created then first instance.create() will be called and there will be instance.create notification | 08:00 |
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gibi | jaosorior: after instance create the instance goes through couple of state changes so there will be instance.save() calls and instance.update notifications emitted | 08:01 |
jaosorior | gibi: oh, so instance.update will also run for new instances, not only when one updates parameters for them? | 08:02 |
jaosorior | say I do a nova boot, will I receive an instance.update notification? | 08:03 |
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bauzas | tonyb: around by that time ? | 08:17 |
bauzas | tonyb: I have a bugfix that we merged in Pike and Ocata-RC2, but I wonder if it would be worth cherry-picking it for Newton too | 08:18 |
bauzas | tonyb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392643/6 looks to me reasonable | 08:18 |
bauzas | tonyb: FWIW https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454593/ comments welcome | 08:20 |
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frickler | sfinucan: sorry for missing the meeting yesterday and thanks for taking up my patches. I'm going to add reno+tests and then let's see what other reviewers think | 08:38 |
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gibi | jaosorior: you will receive instance.update when nova update the instance state during the boot | 08:41 |
gibi | jaosorior: here is a functional test that shows what notifications are triggered during nova boot https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/functional/notification_sample_tests/test_instance.py#L157 | 08:42 |
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jaosorior | I see | 08:43 |
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jaosorior | gibi: is there a specific notification for instance.save? Would probably be less cumbersome than listening on instance.update | 08:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Optional separate database for placement API https://review.openstack.org/362766 | 08:46 |
gibi | jaosorior: there is no specific notification for instance.save, you have to listen to instance.update | 08:47 |
jaosorior | ok | 08:47 |
jaosorior | that works | 08:47 |
jaosorior | gibi: thanks a lot dude | 08:47 |
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gibi | jaosorior: I'm still in a process testing the metadata update question | 08:47 |
johnthetubaguy | seitan: hi, can I help with your blueprint? | 08:47 |
openstackgerrit | Sivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova master: Add live-migration-force-after-timeout https://review.openstack.org/430218 | 08:48 |
johnthetubaguy | seitan: is this the patch you are wondering about: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445558 | 08:48 |
openstackgerrit | Sivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] API: Add os-migrateLive input parameters https://review.openstack.org/454620 | 08:52 |
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gibi | jaosorior: here are the notifications from a devstack about an nova boot | 08:56 |
gibi | jaosorior: http://paste.openstack.org/show/605721/ | 08:56 |
jaosorior | brilliant | 08:56 |
gibi | jaosorior: and then here are the notifications about a nova meta <server> set for the same instance http://paste.openstack.org/show/605723/ | 08:56 |
gibi | jaosorior: it confirms that instance.update is emitted for meta set | 08:57 |
jaosorior | gibi: excellent, this is very useful for me. Thanks a lot | 08:57 |
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gibi | jaosorior: no problem. You can easily log notifications if you set the in the nova.conf driver = log | 08:58 |
gibi | jaosorior: in the section [oslo_messaging_notifications] | 08:58 |
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gibi | then you just grep the nova logs for oslo.messaging.notification lines | 08:59 |
jaosorior | that's good to know | 08:59 |
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jaosorior | I was hacking up my service to output all the notifications it detected | 09:00 |
jaosorior | this is a bit easier for testing a bit | 09:00 |
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seitan | johnthetubaguy: Hello, yes, this is the correct one | 09:01 |
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johnthetubaguy | seitan: how can I help you? it seems you have quite a lot of patches up against that blueprint right now | 09:03 |
johnthetubaguy | seitan: this guide might help you: https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html | 09:04 |
johnthetubaguy | seitan: I think you need to click abandon on all the patches that aren't the "best" one so far | 09:04 |
johnthetubaguy | seitan: at a quick look at your patch, I would have a read of this doc on the git commit message: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GitCommitMessages | 09:05 |
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seitan | johnthetubaguy: Yes, I have read this documents, but still have some things unclear | 09:06 |
johnthetubaguy | seitan: it looks like you are squashing your changes locally, but you end up with multiple change-ids in your git commit messages | 09:06 |
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johnthetubaguy | seitan: basically, you need to get one single gerrit entry, and has in one commit your latest and best code for your blueprint | 09:08 |
johnthetubaguy | seitan: you might do that as lots of little git commits locally, but we need one git commit to review for merge into our master branch in gerrit | 09:09 |
seitan | johnthetubaguy: So basically I should abandon all patches but the first one. Then to update that first release i just edit my Change-Id before putting to review? | 09:09 |
johnthetubaguy | seitan: I would do that to tidy things up, yes | 09:09 |
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johnthetubaguy | seitan: the git hook adds the change-id to all your commits right? if you do an interactive rebase, I would use the "fix up" thing, and that should drop all the commit messages from your various commits, and stop you needing to tweak the change-id | 09:11 |
johnthetubaguy | seitan: personally I just do git commit --amend locally, because I know the history is stored in the gerrit versions of my match | 09:11 |
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gibi | johnthetubaguy: there is a small bugfix with +2 and lot of +1 ons https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430026 Could you check it please? | 09:12 |
johnthetubaguy | gibi: not done my already has +2 sweep yet, it should get hit as part of that | 09:12 |
gibi | johnthetubaguy: cool, thanks a lot! | 09:13 |
seitan | johnthetubaguy: okay, that makes things more clear. Thank you. What about approving the blueprint? Should i attend irc meeting to propose it? | 09:13 |
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johnthetubaguy | seitan: you don't have to attend, its more about adding it to the agenda and including enough information in the blueprint to describe why you are doing what you are doing | 09:14 |
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johnthetubaguy | seitan: the other thing I think your patch is missing is a unit test | 09:16 |
seitan | johnthetubaguy: that would be third question - i'm not sure, how to submit unit test. | 09:18 |
johnthetubaguy | seitan: do you see how to run the unit tests local on your dev box, and where the code for them lives? | 09:19 |
seitan | johnthetubaguy: yes, I'm able to run tox test locally if this is it | 09:20 |
seitan | johnthetubaguy: oh, i should make a test script to check if my patch works? | 09:21 |
johnthetubaguy | seitan: yeah, thats the idea, basically modify or add a test to ensure your patch generates the correct domain XML | 09:24 |
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seitan | johnthetubaguy: aha, will do that. And the last question: do i need to create more information for this patch e. g. create specification file and add URL to it in blueprint? | 09:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.volume_attach notification https://review.openstack.org/401992 | 09:33 |
openstackgerrit | Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.volume_detach notification https://review.openstack.org/408676 | 09:33 |
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johnthetubaguy | seitan: I don't think you need a nova-spec for this one, the blueprint alone should be fine | 09:41 |
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seitan | johnthetubaguy: thank you for your help! | 09:45 |
johnthetubaguy | seitan: no problem | 09:45 |
sfinucan | vladikr, artom, cfriesen, sean-k-mooney: Do we expose any information about CPU features at the moment in nova? | 09:53 |
sfinucan | i.e. support for SSE etc. | 09:53 |
* sfinucan recalls seeing a filter for that kind of thing, but doesn't remember if it was actually implemented or proposed in a spec | 09:53 | |
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openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add host-command-with-POST https://review.openstack.org/303388 | 10:03 |
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kashyap | sfinucan: Not as near as I know | 10:08 |
kashyap | sfinucan: But to compute the most feature-rich CPU which is compatible with all given host CPUs, we use the libvirt's baselineCPU() API | 10:09 |
kashyap | sfinucan: Look at get_capabilities() method in nova/virt/libvirt/host.py: | 10:09 |
kashyap | sfinucan: Curious, why do you ask? | 10:10 |
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sfinucan | kashyap: I got asked to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454042/, which seems to be looking to do just that | 10:11 |
sfinucan | albeit in a different project | 10:11 |
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sfinucan | personally, I think everything they're looking for can be accomplished by resource-providers and traits (and I'm saying as much), but I was curious to know if there was anything already there | 10:12 |
kashyap | I see | 10:13 |
kashyap | sfinucan: Incidentally, I was thinking of working on allowing an ability to turn on / off CPU features / flags for the named CPU models | 10:14 |
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kashyap | That'll allow us to supply specific features (like VMX, or SVM) when using a custom CPU mode (via Nova's 'cpu_mode'). | 10:15 |
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sfinucan | kashyap: Hmm, sounds very...uncloudy :) | 10:16 |
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kashyap | sfinucan: Allow me to tell why it's useful: | 10:16 |
kashyap | sfinucan: If you have the above capability, _along_ with the ability to turn on / off said CPU features per flavor, a Cloud Admin, can then decide to whom they can give access to nested Virt | 10:17 |
kashyap | A perfectly Cloudy Thing, if you ask me :-) This discussion came up with danpb in the past. | 10:17 |
sfinucan | kashyap: Sure you'd be better to expose an "allow nested virt?" option then, rather than exposing every CPU flag? | 10:18 |
kashyap | I have a TODO item to write up a bug with details for this | 10:18 |
sfinucan | *Surely | 10:18 |
kashyap | sfinucan: To expose that (non-existent) option, you need to supply *explicitly* either Intel's VMX or AMD's SVM CPU flag | 10:19 |
kashyap | The idea is to not expose every CPU flag :-) | 10:19 |
sfinucan | kashyap: Yeah, sorry I mean abstract all that stuff away and present just a single flag to the user | 10:20 |
sfinucan | do all the CPU flag magic under the hood | 10:20 |
sfinucan | Aha - my mistake :) | 10:20 |
kashyap | Agreed, we should be able to abstract that all. | 10:22 |
kashyap | Also, related topic is that, in the past we've had multiple bugs with guest / host CPU compatibility | 10:22 |
kashyap | Now, with QEMU 2.9 (about to be released) & libvirt 3.2, there has been major improvements -- | 10:23 |
kashyap | Where now, when someone asks to do a 'host-passthrough', libvirt simply asks QEMU to provide a supported CPU model, in the past it used to use the CPUID instruction -- which led to enabling all kinds of CPU flags that QEMU didn't support | 10:24 |
kashyap | Anyway... | 10:24 |
sfinucan | kashyap: So instead of 'cpu_mode' being a static thing applied to all VMs, you'd now have a magic 'hw:nested_virt' flavor extra spec that admins could use on certain flavours? | 10:24 |
kashyap | sfinucan: Yep, something like that | 10:25 |
sfinucan | kashyap: Do QEMU publish pre-release release notes? | 10:25 |
kashyap | sfinucan: There's a Wiki page where we try to collect feature items upcoming in a release, let me see | 10:26 |
sfinucan | kashyap: nifty. I've reviewed specs which proposed exposing the entire cpu_mode, cpu_model fields via flavors. That's less nice | 10:26 |
sfinucan | (y) | 10:26 |
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kashyap | sfinucan: Where are those specs? Got a handy URL, btw? | 10:26 |
sfinucan | sec | 10:26 |
sfinucan | kashyap: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387295/2/specs/ocata/approved/modify-cpu-mode-precedence.rst | 10:27 |
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kashyap | sfinucan: Thanks | 10:27 |
sfinucan | kashyap: Also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168982/, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170397/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170396/ | 10:28 |
kashyap | sfinucan: For the release notes, see the "FIXME" (it should be fixed, I'll do that) - http://wiki.qemu-project.org/ChangeLog/2.9#x86 | 10:28 |
sfinucan | :) | 10:28 |
kashyap | It's the 'query-cpu-model-expansion' | 10:28 |
kashyap | It took about 6 years (!) to fix all of it, there's a post somewhere from Eduardo, who maintains that stuff | 10:28 |
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kashyap | Thanks for the links | 10:29 |
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openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the extension check for os-quota-class-sets https://review.openstack.org/451193 | 10:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Factor out duplicated notification sample data (3) https://review.openstack.org/452820 | 10:46 |
openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Factor out duplicated notification sample data https://review.openstack.org/452818 | 10:46 |
openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Factor out duplicated notification sample data (2) https://review.openstack.org/452819 | 10:46 |
sean-k-mooney | sfinucan: not sure if you got your answer but the cpu info is available via the hypervior api | 10:47 |
sean-k-mooney | sfinucan: you can just the json filter to schedule to a node with a specific feature you may be able to also use the compute capablity filter | 10:48 |
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openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Add doc for resource provider usages https://review.openstack.org/450105 | 11:07 |
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bhagyashris | johnthetubaguy: Hi, I have one doubt regarding patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409644/4/nova/compute/api.py . Do I need to check condition if rotation==0 in nova/cells/messaging.py? Should I set the instance.task_state as IMAGE_BACKUP in nova/cells/messaging? Because this is already set in nova/cells/messaging.py | 11:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: console: provide an RFB security proxy implementation https://review.openstack.org/345399 | 11:16 |
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johnthetubaguy | bhagyashris: you see the compute_rpcapi call in compute/api.py, that runs the cells messaging code on the lower cell (https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cells/messaging.py#L914) so if you skip the DB change in compute/api.py, you would also have to skip that change in the cells messaging logic. But I think you shouldn't skip that DB call in either, so your updated patch may mean you don't need to | 11:18 |
johnthetubaguy | change the cells messaging layer | 11:18 |
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bhagyashris | johnthetubaguy: Thank you, For clearing my doubt. :) | 11:22 |
johnthetubaguy | bhagyashris: no problem | 11:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Add api-ref for GET RP inventories https://review.openstack.org/449765 | 11:28 |
openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Add api-ref for DELETE RP inventories https://review.openstack.org/452708 | 11:28 |
openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Add api-ref for PUT RP inventories https://review.openstack.org/452707 | 11:28 |
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openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Add doc for resource provider classes https://review.openstack.org/451661 | 11:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Jens Rosenboom proposed openstack/nova master: Fix network metadata information - part 3/3 https://review.openstack.org/450297 | 11:35 |
openstackgerrit | Jens Rosenboom proposed openstack/nova master: Fix network metadata information - part 2/3 https://review.openstack.org/450212 | 11:35 |
openstackgerrit | Jens Rosenboom proposed openstack/nova master: Fix network metadata information - part 1/3 https://review.openstack.org/450211 | 11:35 |
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dims | sdague : looks like we can't promote new novaclient to u-c - http://logs.openstack.org/64/454164/1/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-ubuntu-xenial/77e30c8/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2017-04-07_04_04_14_593 | 11:58 |
dims | sdague : good morning :) | 11:58 |
sdague | oh, I had never fixed that eh? | 11:58 |
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sdague | I wonder if there is an outstanding patch for that | 11:59 |
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sdague | I remember talking to dtroyer about it at the PTG | 11:59 |
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sdague | dims: https://review.openstack.org/454694 | 12:04 |
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sdague | yeh, I guess we'd just never gotten around to fixing that | 12:04 |
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dims | sdague : +1 | 12:10 |
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zioproto | is anyone familiar with the nova.conf setting live_migration_tunnelled ? | 12:16 |
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openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Remove **kwargs passing in payload __init__ https://review.openstack.org/418489 | 12:37 |
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frickler | the ceph tests seems to be failing with a single error during volume backup creation: http://logstash.openstack.org/#dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=message%3A%20%5C%22tempest.exceptions.VolumeResourceBuildErrorException%3A%20backup%5C%22 | 12:49 |
frickler | I haven't found anything obvious, maybe skip that test until someone can fix it? | 12:49 |
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frickler | hmm, seems it also affects sheepdog, so I guess I better ask cinder folk | 12:50 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/453896 | 12:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: console: provide an RFB security proxy implementation https://review.openstack.org/345399 | 13:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: console: introduce basic framework for security proxying https://review.openstack.org/345396 | 13:21 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: console: introduce framework for RFB authentication https://review.openstack.org/345397 | 13:21 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: console: introduce the VeNCrypt RFB authentication scheme https://review.openstack.org/345398 | 13:21 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: console: provide an RFB security proxy implementation https://review.openstack.org/345399 | 13:21 |
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dims | sdague : horizon is busted too fyi, pinging robcresswell on horizon channel now (http://logs.openstack.org/64/454164/2/check/gate-cross-horizon-python27-ubuntu-xenial/de047f5/console.html#_2017-04-07_12_17_05_822830) | 13:35 |
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mriedem | alex_xu: did you see jichenjc's question about os-quota-class-show in the ML? | 13:40 |
openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: fix os-extended-volumes:volumes_attached in servers responses https://review.openstack.org/449809 | 13:40 |
dims | mriedem : grenade and horizon are busted with the python-novaclient release. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454164/ | 13:40 |
dims | mriedem : sdague has a fix for grenade that works fine | 13:40 |
dims | mriedem : oh, puppet-nova too | 13:41 |
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dims | pinged EmilienM for puppet-nova and robcresswell for horizon. fyi | 13:41 |
EmilienM | dims: I don't know why you mentionned tripleo but we don't use it fyi | 13:41 |
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dims | EmilienM : not tripleo, puppet-nova, i saw you were active there too | 13:42 |
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EmilienM | dims: yeah, we'll update it soon, thanks again | 13:42 |
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mriedem | dims: how are things broken when 8.0 isn't in upper-constraints? | 13:44 |
mriedem | i believe horizon already knew they were going to be broken | 13:44 |
mriedem | but again, upper-constraints | 13:44 |
mriedem | oh that's the change | 13:44 |
mriedem | i see | 13:44 |
dims | mriedem : it's trying to get stuff into u-c that's broken :) | 13:45 |
mriedem | robcresswell already knows about this for horizon | 13:45 |
dims | apologies | 13:45 |
mriedem | it was in the ML a couple of weeks ago | 13:45 |
mriedem | np | 13:45 |
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johnthetubaguy | mriedem: do we have a list of folks who are at the forum/summit, there was an etherpad I guess? | 13:50 |
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mriedem | yeah sec | 13:51 |
johnthetubaguy | mriedem: looks like I may have to cross myself off that list | 13:51 |
mriedem | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-Nova-brainstorming | 13:51 |
mriedem | twoard the bottom | 13:52 |
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mriedem | *toward | 13:52 |
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johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I guess we have enough folks to represent Nova without me being there, just wondering if I should self-fund my trip | 13:53 |
mriedem | i'm not sure if i should take this private or not :) | 13:53 |
mriedem | you didn't get approval to go? | 13:53 |
johnthetubaguy | heh, really just checking generally | 13:54 |
mriedem | oh | 13:54 |
mriedem | well i know i'd like to have you there | 13:54 |
johnthetubaguy | it looks that way, though | 13:54 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, I would like to be there too | 13:54 |
mriedem | i haven't gone through http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ yet | 13:55 |
johnthetubaguy | so just wondering what to do about stuff I was meant to be leading if I can't make it, etc | 13:55 |
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mriedem | so both of your vm+bm platform sessions were approved | 13:55 |
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johnthetubaguy | mriedem: right, I worked with some UC folks to get them approved | 13:56 |
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mriedem | johnthetubaguy: you're on the TC right? and the vm+bm thing is kind of a foundation/tc/constellation thing now right? | 13:56 |
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mriedem | i'd think the foundation would fund your travel | 13:56 |
johnthetubaguy | mriedem: so my term ends on the TC before the summit | 13:56 |
johnthetubaguy | I wasn't really planing on going for the board meeting, etc on the sunday anyways | 13:57 |
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johnthetubaguy | yeah, seem late for travel sponsorship | 13:57 |
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johnthetubaguy | mriedem: it sounds like I am boarderline so this stuff may help push me the other way over the line | 13:57 |
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johnthetubaguy | mriedem: fingers crossed | 13:58 |
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mriedem | apparently i need to fix the wroding in the claims in scheduler abstract http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/63 | 14:11 |
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mriedem | johnthetubaguy: dansmith: does L26 sound like a better abstract? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-Nova-brainstorming | 14:18 |
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dansmith | mriedem: sure | 14:21 |
mriedem | done http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/63 | 14:22 |
mriedem | dansmith: your forum session for cells v2 got approved | 14:23 |
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dansmith | woot | 14:24 |
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mriedem | so i assume you saw my late night ping about the HostMappingNotFound in n-sch on startup | 14:25 |
mriedem | i posted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454426/ | 14:25 |
mriedem | no tests yet | 14:25 |
mriedem | but was looking for feedback | 14:26 |
mriedem | basically, don't send an empty instance list from the compute on startup so the scheduler doesn't try and pull an empty list from the db - it's just a waste of time | 14:26 |
mriedem | and also handle the not found in the scheduler during the update operation since we can recover later (and it could be an old compute sending an empty list) | 14:26 |
dansmith | I didn't actually | 14:27 |
johnthetubaguy | mriedem: that looks like a good write up of all things "claim-ey" | 14:27 |
dansmith | mriedem: ah yeah cool | 14:27 |
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bauzas | mriedem: the instance cache is only needed by a very few filters | 14:29 |
mriedem | bauzas: right i know | 14:29 |
bauzas | mriedem: so, not providing the empty list looks good to me | 14:29 |
mriedem | bauzas: in case you haven't seen https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/put-host-manager-instance-info-on-a-diet | 14:30 |
mriedem | or my query in the ops list about the TypeAffinityFilter | 14:30 |
mriedem | and whether or not we can deprecate it | 14:30 |
bauzas | I just don't remember how the HostState is created when that is not yet running | 14:30 |
bauzas | mriedem: no, not yet | 14:30 |
bauzas | mriedem: looking at your spec | 14:30 |
mriedem | the host state would have an empty instance dict | 14:30 |
mriedem | it would anyway | 14:30 |
bauzas | mriedem: yeah, so it's all good | 14:30 |
mriedem | dansmith: so in general ok with that patch? if so i'll start tests | 14:31 |
dansmith | mriedem: yeah | 14:31 |
mriedem | cool | 14:31 |
bauzas | it's just meaningless to update the scheduler with an empty list given the HostState already has it :) | 14:31 |
mriedem | it's kind of nice that after so many years i've finally have to start looking at the HostManager code in the scheduler | 14:31 |
mriedem | can't avoid it forever i guess | 14:32 |
mriedem | bauzas: it's not a spec btw, it's just, don't send a full InstanceList of full objects from all computes to the scheduler | 14:32 |
mriedem | when all the scheduler filters need really is uuid (and apparently instance_type_id) | 14:32 |
bauzas | mriedem: yeah they also need the flavor id | 14:33 |
bauzas | AFAIR | 14:33 |
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bauzas | some filter is verifying it | 14:33 |
mriedem | the TypeAffinityFilter uses the instance.instance_type_id | 14:33 |
bauzas | oh yeah, the InstanceTypeFilter one you mentioned | 14:33 |
mriedem | which is the flavor primary key | 14:33 |
mriedem | which is bad | 14:33 |
bauzas | yeah yeah | 14:33 |
mriedem | as noted in the ML | 14:33 |
mriedem | and i'd be surprised if anyone uses it | 14:33 |
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bauzas | don't be surprised | 14:34 |
bauzas | mriedem: I'm pretty sure I'll find operators using it | 14:34 |
figleaf | mriedem: there was debate over that back when we removed db access from the filters | 14:34 |
bauzas | oh man, TGIF | 14:34 |
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figleaf | There were people then who claimed those filters were used | 14:35 |
bauwser | zactly | 14:35 |
mriedem | if they claim they are used, | 14:35 |
mriedem | then i want to know how they deal with changing flavors | 14:35 |
mriedem | or do they just never change flavors | 14:35 |
mriedem | i.e. delete and recreate | 14:35 |
bauwser | the latter I guess | 14:35 |
figleaf | Otherwise I would have been happy to chuck 'em in the trash | 14:35 |
mriedem | maybe they just don't know they've been broken | 14:35 |
mriedem | and this explains their NoValidHost issues | 14:35 |
figleaf | Could be | 14:35 |
bauwser | hah | 14:36 |
mriedem | if i have to send both, | 14:36 |
bauwser | anyway | 14:36 |
figleaf | It always seemed fragile | 14:36 |
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mriedem | i'll probably still trim it down from a full InstanceList to a simple InstanceInfo object or something that's versioned and has 2 fields | 14:36 |
dansmith | fragile is an understatement | 14:36 |
openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in remote_consoles.py https://review.openstack.org/454372 | 14:36 |
mriedem | rather than just a dict | 14:36 |
bauwser | lgtm | 14:37 |
bauwser | and honestly | 14:37 |
mriedem | i was thinking, if we did deprecate TypeAffinityFilter, we'd have to wait on sending a list of uuids until queens | 14:37 |
bauwser | when I wrote that BP | 14:37 |
bauwser | about fanouting the scheduler API with stuff | 14:37 |
mriedem | and even then, some later filter might need something new and we'd have to add another field to the thing we send | 14:37 |
bauwser | I was rather thinking of how to update the scheduler differently | 14:37 |
bauwser | so, now we have placement | 14:37 |
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bauwser | I do wonder if we shouldn't rather use placement for pushing those kind of "resources" | 14:38 |
bauwser | not saying placement should verify those | 14:38 |
bauwser | but then the scheduler would query placement rather | 14:38 |
bauwser | I dunno, it's just a thought | 14:38 |
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mriedem | well, placement does have the list of consumers (instance uuids) per resource provider (compute node) | 14:39 |
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mriedem | placement doesn't have the flavor id | 14:39 |
bauwser | I don't like computes doing RPC fanouts to the scheduler, and I'm even not comfortable because I wrote that in the past | 14:39 |
figleaf | bauwser: placement doesn't "know" instance ids and flavor ids | 14:39 |
bauwser | figleaf: I know | 14:39 |
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bauwser | I'm just saying it's a problem for cellsv2 at least | 14:39 |
bauwser | because it's an upcall | 14:39 |
mriedem | the resource provider will have a COMPUTE trait though right? | 14:39 |
bauwser | like rescheduling | 14:39 |
mriedem | the compute trait replaces the can_host field | 14:39 |
bauwser | mriedem: sure, but I don't get your idea | 14:40 |
mriedem | i don't either so let's not talk about it | 14:40 |
bauwser | just to make it clear, from a cells perspective, there are 3 upcalls from compute to the API world | 14:40 |
bauwser | one is when you reschedule, you call out conductor | 14:40 |
bauwser | the second is the instance list | 14:41 |
bauwser | (to the scheduler) | 14:41 |
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bauwser | the third one is the aggregate list | 14:41 |
bauwser | (to the scheduler too) | 14:41 |
mriedem | did you forget server group members? | 14:41 |
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mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442736/ | 14:41 |
bauwser | we don't do that | 14:41 |
nicodemus_ | hello | 14:41 |
mriedem | we do | 14:41 |
bauwser | it's passed in the Spec AFAIK | 14:41 |
mriedem | see ^ | 14:41 |
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bauwser | oh fuck, I thought you were talking of the Affinity filters verifying the group | 14:42 |
nicodemus_ | how can I modify the OS-EXT-SRV-ATTR properties on an instance? I've migrated five instances but had to do a rollback on the DB, and although the instances are in the new host the attributes show the old host... | 14:42 |
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bauwser | mriedem: ServerGroup is an API DB thing ? | 14:43 |
bauwser | I didn't recall that | 14:43 |
mriedem | bauwser: yes | 14:43 |
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bauwser | a-ha then sorry, s/3/4 indeed | 14:43 |
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bauwser | but | 14:43 |
mriedem | nicodemus_: what does rollback on the db mean? | 14:43 |
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bauwser | the 4th upcall is because we know it's racy | 14:44 |
mriedem | nicodemus_: and which specific field? | 14:44 |
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bauwser | I do wonder if claims in the scheduler could help that race | 14:44 |
mriedem | bauwser: yes that's the idea for the workaround | 14:44 |
mriedem | is it's temporary until we have claims in the scheduler | 14:44 |
mriedem | per my understanding | 14:45 |
nicodemus_ | mriedem, two DB nodes went down and the remaining node didn't update the migration. The attributes I'd like to change are OS-EXT-SRV-ATTR:host and OS-EXT-SRV-ATTR:hypervisor_hostname | 14:45 |
mriedem | and the commit message | 14:45 |
bauwser | mriedem: well, the race still exists even if claims | 14:45 |
mriedem | nicodemus_: you can see here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/extended_server_attributes.py#L34 that hypervisor_hostname comes from the instances.node column | 14:45 |
mriedem | and host comes from instances.host | 14:45 |
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nicodemus_ | mriedem, great! Thanks :) | 14:46 |
melwitt | jbernard: hey, I was wondering if you had made any progress on throttling down the concurrency of the ceph job (described on L142 in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-pike) | 14:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in server_password.py https://review.openstack.org/452259 | 14:47 |
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bauwser | mriedem: dansmith: I'm confused by the help message of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442736/21/nova/conf/workarounds.py | 14:50 |
bauwser | mriedem: dansmith: do we plan to allow upcalls by default ? | 14:50 |
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bauwser | the same would go for reschedules | 14:50 |
dansmith | bauwser: we can't have upcalls if you have isolated your mq, so you have to disable that in that case | 14:50 |
bauwser | ie. we could switch the MQ by default unless the operator wanted isolation | 14:50 |
bauwser | dansmith: of course | 14:51 |
bauwser | dansmith: I mean, do we plan to do the MQ switch by default and leave a conf opt for that ? | 14:51 |
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dansmith | bauwser: I dunno what you mean by "do the MQ switch" | 14:51 |
bauwser | if so, would it make sense to have a single opt like "mq_isolated" ? | 14:51 |
bauwser | dansmith: I mean, in the compute node, if a reschedule is required, do call super conductor by switching the MQ connection string | 14:52 |
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dansmith | bauwser: we can't switch the mq string as we have no idea what it is or should be | 14:52 |
dansmith | IMHO, | 14:52 |
dansmith | we should be moving completely to no upcalls, | 14:52 |
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dansmith | but until we have claims and some other stuff like affinity in placement, we'll lose features if we just cut them off right now | 14:53 |
dansmith | which is why it is a workaround | 14:53 |
bauwser | dansmith: that's my point | 14:53 |
dansmith | and no, I don't have to have a catch-all "is isolated" config, | 14:53 |
bauwser | dansmith: I'm unclear on the reschedule case | 14:53 |
dansmith | because fixing each thing will be separate | 14:53 |
openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in security_groups.py https://review.openstack.org/452309 | 14:54 |
bauwser | dansmith: ie. what happens in a v2 world where currently computes do conductor_api.do_this() for a reschedule ? | 14:54 |
mriedem | in a single cell you have a single conductor and reschedules are fine, i believe | 14:55 |
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dansmith | right, | 14:55 |
dansmith | and we don't have multi-cell capability until my series merges | 14:55 |
dansmith | so if we get all that in, | 14:55 |
dansmith | we still have that caveat on reschedules | 14:55 |
dansmith | and we said we'd discuss in boston and decide what to do with feedback | 14:56 |
bauwser | that's my point, I'm past cells-aware | 14:56 |
bauwser | okay | 14:56 |
bauwser | sorry if I'm unclear, I'm not talking of the choice we would make | 14:56 |
mriedem | dansmith: we don't yet have a patch in your series that breaks reschedules do we? | 14:57 |
bauwser | I'm rather talking on whether it's technically possible for a message to be send to a queue (ie. if the API MQ is in the context or not) | 14:57 |
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mriedem | i mean, that's a deployment option isn't it? | 14:57 |
dansmith | mriedem: right | 14:57 |
mriedem | ok | 14:57 |
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liuyulong | hi there, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375221/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379128/ need some great reviewers, thanks. : ) | 15:00 |
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mriedem | dansmith: https://awwapp.com/b/urxhemxkr/ | 15:05 |
mriedem | can you see that? | 15:05 |
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dansmith | mriedem: I see a child's drawing | 15:06 |
mriedem | ha | 15:06 |
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mriedem | so in multi-cell, | 15:06 |
mriedem | the super conductor casts to the cell compute to build right? | 15:06 |
dansmith | yup | 15:07 |
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mriedem | and compute talks to cell conductor just for db? | 15:08 |
mriedem | i'm a bit fuzzy on what the cell conductor does | 15:08 |
dansmith | well, resizes and stuff hit the super conductor because of the scheduler requirement, so.. yeah that might be it | 15:09 |
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mriedem | ok | 15:10 |
mriedem | this thing doesn't provide a box shape unfortunately | 15:10 |
mriedem | or a circle | 15:10 |
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stefan_amann | mriedem we were working on supporting FICON / ECKD devices, in addition to FCP. But then paused the work because we did not have a CI ready. And there were dependencies to os-brick. We would like to release the support with Pike. The specless blueprint is in 'pending approval' state. Can you change this to allow us go forward? I would very much appreciate... | 15:13 |
mriedem | stefan_amann: link? | 15:13 |
mriedem | i also don't know what any of those devices are | 15:14 |
stefan_amann | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/linux-ficon-support | 15:14 |
mriedem | or acronyms | 15:14 |
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mriedem | stefan_amann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320536/ is abandoned | 15:14 |
mriedem | i marked the nova blueprint as blocked because it's dependent on the os-brick changes | 15:15 |
stefan_amann | FICON is a storage protocol, similar to FCP. Just that in case of FCP, different command blocks are transferred over Fibre-Channel. FICON is the standard protocol used on z Systems mainframes | 15:15 |
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mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342921/ is also very old | 15:16 |
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mriedem | stefan_amann: i've re-approved the nova bp but left it in blocked state | 15:17 |
mriedem | maybe the approved status gets your manager to let you work on it :) | 15:17 |
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stefan_amann | :-) | 15:17 |
stefan_amann | thank you! So if e will soon release the os-brick changes you will remove the 'blocked' state? | 15:18 |
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stefan_amann | mriedem :-) thank you! So if e will soon release the os-brick changes you will remove the 'blocked' state? | 15:19 |
mriedem | well, | 15:19 |
mriedem | the os-brick change is going to depend on the cinder change, so i don't expect any of that happening soon for an os-brick release | 15:20 |
mriedem | but yeah once the os-brick stuff is in a better state let me know | 15:20 |
stefan_amann | mriedem ok... thanks much! | 15:20 |
mriedem | yw | 15:21 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/453896 | 15:22 |
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bauwser | mriedem: quick q before I leave (soonish), do you think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454593/ could be a reasonable backport for a phase-II cycle ? :) | 15:34 |
bauwser | I know it's not a security bugfix, neither a critical one | 15:34 |
bauwser | but I think it could be worth it for operators wanting to ping-pong their migrations | 15:35 |
mriedem | so newton? | 15:35 |
bauwser | yup | 15:35 |
bauwser | the fix itself is not really intrusive | 15:35 |
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bauwser | in general, I'd -1 such things, but I think the benefits go over the risk | 15:36 |
dansmith | yeah | 15:36 |
mriedem | seems fine to me | 15:36 |
dansmith | super tiny and it's a really stupid problem to have | 15:36 |
dansmith | "ownership" in the commit message -> security -> fine.. right? :) | 15:37 |
mriedem | +2 for you | 15:37 |
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bauwser | mriedem: dansmith: thanks to both of you | 15:38 |
mriedem | you can pay me back by reviewing some stable/ocata backports | 15:39 |
mriedem | oh wait jesus | 15:39 |
mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454593/ | 15:39 |
mriedem | is that in ocata? | 15:39 |
mriedem | oh it is | 15:40 |
mriedem | ok whew | 15:40 |
mriedem | i thought that was master for some reason | 15:40 |
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bauwser | mriedem: it's in master and stable/ocata | 15:42 |
mriedem | yeah i see now | 15:42 |
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mriedem | thought you pulled one over on me | 15:42 |
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mriedem | always like it when you red hat kids are doing customer bug duty on a friday | 15:43 |
bauwser | mriedem: see my reviewstats for the last 3 days, and you'll guess it's not only friday :( | 15:43 |
mriedem | i see #16 here http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/nova/30 | 15:44 |
mriedem | are you trying to impress me :P | 15:44 |
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mriedem | we need these https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata+topic:bug/1678326 | 15:44 |
mriedem | those are the regression backports for ocata | 15:45 |
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bauwser | humpf http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/nova-reviewers-30.txt tells me 70-ish | 15:45 |
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mriedem | and then i'll do an ocata release | 15:45 |
mriedem | ^ probably includes specs | 15:45 |
bauwser | oh, the stackalytics one doesn't ? | 15:45 |
mriedem | nope | 15:46 |
mriedem | this does i think http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/nova-group/30 | 15:46 |
bauwser | ah ok | 15:46 |
mriedem | nova-group is multiple nova projects | 15:46 |
mriedem | i'd have to see what's actually in there though | 15:46 |
bauwser | mmm, interesting, just looking over my stats for like a while ago | 15:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Handle new hosts for updating instance info in scheduler https://review.openstack.org/454426 | 15:49 |
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openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add capabilities into the compute API https://review.openstack.org/454792 | 16:31 |
johnthetubaguy | tonyb: I had a quick go at kicking this off, as I hadn't seen anything go up: ^ | 16:31 |
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samarendra | what does the nova.conf on the controller actually do if it isn't also an hypervisor ? | 17:09 |
mriedem | samarendra: different options are used by different services | 17:10 |
samarendra | it doesn't seem like it configures the api according to it because i am able to have and use different capabilities on the hypervisor than what is on the hypervisor | 17:10 |
samarendra | i have disk_cachemodes different on my compute node and controller and the compute node options take precedence when spinning up the vm | 17:11 |
mriedem | that's because disk_cachemodes is only read from the nova-compute service | 17:12 |
samarendra | mriedem: ok | 17:12 |
samarendra | so i can remove the option completely from controller ? | 17:12 |
mriedem | yes | 17:12 |
samarendra | ok. | 17:12 |
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samarendra | mriedem: also on the same note, is there actually a detailed doc (apart from code :)) telling how disk_cachemodes can be configured? | 17:13 |
samarendra | last i saw in the doc it was a bit confusing | 17:13 |
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mriedem | besides https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/sample_config.html you mean? | 17:14 |
samarendra | mriedem: yes | 17:14 |
samarendra | it talks of only file and block | 17:15 |
mriedem | there has been a multi-release effort underway to provide better help text to all of the config options, but unfortunately it looks like one hasn't been done yet | 17:15 |
samarendra | ok i just found another one on https://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/mitaka/install-guide/configure-nova.html | 17:15 |
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samarendra | mriedem: ok. i will try and contribute something on that front from our experience | 17:16 |
mriedem | thanks | 17:16 |
mriedem | samarendra: this is the blueprint for the cleanup effort by the way https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/centralize-config-options-pike | 17:16 |
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mriedem | samarendra: fyi https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18042/ | 17:18 |
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samarendra | ok. i guess we using mitaka may mean not many useful things can be contributed. | 17:18 |
mriedem | sure it odes | 17:18 |
mriedem | *does | 17:18 |
mriedem | the option is basically unchanged | 17:18 |
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mriedem | the option was introduced in grizzly | 17:19 |
mriedem | without docs | 17:19 |
samarendra | oh ok | 17:19 |
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mriedem | from https://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html | 17:20 |
mriedem | The optional cache attribute controls the cache mechanism, possible values are "default", "none", "writethrough", "writeback", "directsync" (like "writethrough", but it bypasses the host page cache) and "unsafe" (host may cache all disk io, and sync requests from guest are ignored). Since 0.6.0, "directsync" since 0.9.5, | 17:20 |
mriedem | "unsafe" since 0.9.7 | 17:20 |
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mriedem | sfinucan: is it possible to use choices with ListOpt? | 17:21 |
samarendra | mriedem: if by choices you mean x=y, a=b, then we are already using it :) | 17:22 |
mriedem | no sorry i meant something else | 17:22 |
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samarendra | mriedem: ok. btw thanks for the links! i never thought of looking at libvirt docs | 17:23 |
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mriedem | also https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/linuxonibm/liaat/liaatbpkvmguestcache.htm | 17:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Tadas Ustinavičius proposed openstack/nova master: Adding unit test for the patch https://review.openstack.org/445558 | 17:35 |
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samarendra | mriedem: thanks. have seen that already :) | 17:36 |
mriedem | i'm shamelessly copying it into the config option help | 17:36 |
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samarendra | mriedem: where can i find bugs for openstack nova? i was looking if anyone reported any issues with attaching and detaching volumes on ppc64le arch. or would that be in the domain of openstack-cinder? | 17:43 |
mriedem | samarendra: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/ | 17:44 |
openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Expand help text for [libvirt]/disk_cachemodes https://review.openstack.org/454823 | 17:44 |
mriedem | samarendra: also ^ | 17:44 |
samarendra | review.openstack.org would be where people submit patches for the bugs on launchpad, right? | 17:45 |
mriedem | yes | 17:45 |
samarendra | ok | 17:45 |
mriedem | see if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454823/ looks ok | 17:45 |
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samarendra | mriedem: +1 | 17:49 |
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mriedem | no jaypipes huh | 18:01 |
mriedem | dansmith: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407228/ do you know if we changed to always pre-load instances with 'tags' loaded by default now? | 18:01 |
mriedem | i'm not really sure why we care about sending instance tags on every instance action payload | 18:01 |
dansmith | mriedem: I have a -1 on the patch to do that | 18:01 |
dansmith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415298/15 | 18:02 |
dansmith | haven't really gotten an answer on it | 18:02 |
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mriedem | hmm, so that comes AFTER https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407228/ | 18:02 |
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mriedem | and ^ will lazy-load instance tags on every instance action notification | 18:02 |
dansmith | I imagine the desire to have it in notifications is so you can do something for all instances tagged a certain way, | 18:02 |
mriedem | which is a buttload | 18:02 |
dansmith | but it does seem expensive | 18:02 |
dansmith | mriedem: yeah I know | 18:03 |
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mriedem | seems we should figure out the lazy-load thing before we start blasting that everywhere | 18:03 |
mriedem | it'd be one thing if it were instance create/update | 18:03 |
dansmith | maybe I'm being silly, but it seems like we should pre-load tags anywhere we need to avoid that patch getting any more lazy-loads, then merge that patch | 18:03 |
dansmith | without making it default | 18:03 |
dansmith | agree | 18:03 |
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mriedem | yeah i agree with you | 18:04 |
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dansmith | you gonna slap the sad trombone on that bottom one? | 18:05 |
mriedem | wa mfing wa | 18:06 |
mriedem | sneti: are you around? | 18:06 |
mriedem | i think we basically just send tags for instance create and update | 18:07 |
mriedem | and none of the action payloads | 18:07 |
mriedem | i believe the whole intent of this is to get instance tags into searchlight for filling in the compute rest api server show response | 18:08 |
mriedem | to do that, i don't need to blast out tags for suspend/resume actions | 18:08 |
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dansmith | ah, yeah | 18:08 |
mriedem | it even says in the bp | 18:09 |
mriedem | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/additional-notification-fields-for-searchlight | 18:09 |
mriedem | Step1: Add simple fields to instance.create and instance.update | 18:09 |
dansmith | sonofa bee | 18:10 |
mriedem | alright cool, next thing | 18:11 |
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mriedem | so on your workaround patch, | 18:11 |
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mriedem | i wasn't sure if we should call that option out in the track_instance_changes option help text too or not | 18:11 |
mriedem | or if we should mention it in a reno | 18:11 |
dansmith | mriedem: or both, yeah I was going to do that | 18:11 |
dansmith | I'm currently unfscking my discover patch you conflicted with :P | 18:12 |
mriedem | i mean, a reno might raise eyebrows, which maybe you want or don't want | 18:12 |
mriedem | given it's the default behavior maybe it's better to not ruffle feathers, idk | 18:12 |
dansmith | I dunno, I think it's a good highlight for getting claims in the scheduler | 18:12 |
mriedem | sure | 18:12 |
mriedem | if you do a reno, i'd just put it in the 'other' section | 18:12 |
mriedem | not sure it's really a feature or issue or anything | 18:12 |
mriedem | maybe known issue | 18:12 |
dansmith | okay | 18:12 |
mriedem | like, hey, if you plan on having a big deployment and you don't want upcalls from all computes to the api, set this thing, which is temporary until claims in the scheduler | 18:13 |
mriedem | which is why it's a known issue and we're adding the backdoor workarsound | 18:13 |
dansmith | ack | 18:14 |
mriedem | melwitt: the first 4 changes here have my +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442162/ they are super fun i swear - after the first one it's pretty easy | 18:15 |
mriedem | the first one is mostly just mechanics | 18:15 |
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jbernard | melwitt: not yet, i plan to look at that next | 18:18 |
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mriedem | efried: the long awaited +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438119/11 | 18:23 |
efried | Wohoo!!! | 18:24 |
efried | thorst ^^ | 18:24 |
thorst | omg | 18:25 |
thorst | thank you | 18:25 |
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mriedem | ooo actually | 18:30 |
mriedem | let me crush your souls real quick | 18:30 |
thomasem | *gulp* | 18:31 |
openstackgerrit | Mathieu Gagné proposed openstack/nova master: Add ability to signal and perform online volume size change https://review.openstack.org/454322 | 18:31 |
mriedem | efried: thorst: we don't translate log messages anymore | 18:32 |
mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438119/11/nova/virt/powervm/driver.py | 18:32 |
mriedem | so you can remove the _LI usage in there | 18:32 |
openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova master: Support HTTP CONNECT in websocket proxy https://review.openstack.org/454226 | 18:32 |
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efried | mriedem Roger that. | 18:34 |
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nicodemus_ | hello again... I'm having some trouble with a few instances in a Mitaka deploy. In short, a few instances were migrated from one compute node to another, but then a DB issue happened and I had to restore the DB to a point prior to the migration. | 18:37 |
nicodemus_ | An instance in compute "A" is running but has no networking setup, so I modified the instances table to reflect that it's in compute A (DB said it was on compute B) | 18:38 |
nicodemus_ | So, I'm trying to migrate it from compute A to compute B but have an "InstanceActionNotFound" error on nova-api logs :( | 18:39 |
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nicodemus_ | this is the full trace: http://paste.openstack.org/show/605774/ | 18:40 |
nicodemus_ | has anyone come across such issue? | 18:40 |
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sdague | mriedem: btw, just to see, I inverted the livesnapshot flag - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454323/ | 18:45 |
sdague | 2 different tempest runs failed on snapshotting paused images | 18:45 |
sdague | so... I think that remains a can of worms | 18:45 |
mriedem | those could just be latent bugs | 18:47 |
mriedem | we likely don't have a check in the libvirt driver to not live snapshot a paused guest | 18:47 |
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mriedem | could probably just open a bug for that | 18:48 |
mriedem | yeah we get the power state here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L1541 | 18:48 |
mriedem | and determine if it's live snapshot here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L1552 | 18:49 |
mriedem | but don't check the state | 18:49 |
mriedem | here we check the state https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L1571 | 18:49 |
mriedem | later | 18:49 |
mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/power_state.py#L34 | 18:49 |
openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: PowerVM Driver: spawn/delete #1: no-ops https://review.openstack.org/438119 | 18:50 |
efried | mriedem ^^ back atcha. Thanks! | 18:50 |
efried | thorst esberglu adreznec ^^ FYI and +1 | 18:50 |
openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in security_groups.py https://review.openstack.org/452309 | 18:50 |
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mriedem | sdague: guessing maybe something with this? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L1661 | 18:53 |
mriedem | pause vs suspend wrt qemu confuses me though | 18:53 |
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mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/23/454323/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/07a0fe4/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2017-04-06_20_40_25_285 | 18:55 |
mriedem | trying to snapshot a non-running instance: (state: 3 expected: 1) | 18:55 |
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mriedem | libvirtError: Domain not found: no domain with matching uuid 'f2e92033-2fc7-44c4-8dda-70ce75620071' (instance-00000014) | 18:56 |
sdague | mriedem: well, it works some of the time | 18:57 |
mriedem | sdague: i don't know what that means | 18:58 |
mriedem | you haven't rechecked this | 18:58 |
mriedem | you mean it passes in some jobs? | 18:58 |
openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: PowerVM Driver: spawn/destroy #2: functional https://review.openstack.org/438598 | 18:59 |
mriedem | efried: doh | 18:59 |
mriedem | i was in the middle of that one | 18:59 |
efried | mriedem Well, figured I should get rid of the log translations. | 19:00 |
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efried | Sorry about that. | 19:00 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make discover_hosts only query for unmapped ComputeNode records https://review.openstack.org/427903 | 19:00 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add ability to query for ComputeNodes by their mapped value https://review.openstack.org/427902 | 19:00 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add ComputeNode.mapped field https://review.openstack.org/427901 | 19:00 |
sdague | mriedem: it does pass some jobs | 19:00 |
mriedem | sdague: do those jobs run that test? | 19:02 |
sdague | yes | 19:02 |
openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Change livesnapshot to true by default https://review.openstack.org/454323 | 19:02 |
sdague | it's passing another tempest run | 19:02 |
mriedem | which one? the live migration job? | 19:02 |
sdague | mriedem: oh, you know what, maybe it isn't | 19:03 |
openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: PowerVM Driver: power_on/off and reboot https://review.openstack.org/427380 | 19:03 |
mriedem | sdague: right | 19:03 |
mriedem | so i pushed up the paused check | 19:03 |
mriedem | let's see what happens | 19:03 |
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sdague | mriedem: ok, so the flake8-import-order completely is returning the wrong answers during my inbuffer file checking. Can I delete this thing. | 19:04 |
mriedem | i don't know what that means either | 19:05 |
mriedem | wrong answers, as in false negatives? | 19:05 |
sdague | yes | 19:06 |
sdague | it keeps saying nova needs to be before some other thing that it shouldn't be | 19:06 |
openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: remove flake8-import-order https://review.openstack.org/454853 | 19:06 |
openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: remove log translation tags from nova.cells https://review.openstack.org/454854 | 19:06 |
mriedem | do you have this change? https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/07a042ba2c3355b4481ee976894834e819dc9710 | 19:08 |
sdague | yes, it's way after that change | 19:08 |
sdague | I don't know why it's giving me the entirely wrong answers, but it is | 19:08 |
openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova master: fix admin context scenarios for cinderclient https://review.openstack.org/384799 | 19:09 |
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sdague | mriedem: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/1/view/wrhl4v895bc5rdr/Apps/Shutter/screenshot_368.png | 19:17 |
dansmith | MY EYES | 19:17 |
sdague | dansmith: :P | 19:17 |
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mriedem | it's probably the import nova.conf | 19:18 |
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mriedem | can't distinguish between from nova.* and import nova.*? | 19:19 |
mriedem | efried: comments in the 2nd patch | 19:19 |
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sdague | mriedem: right, I don't know why it does it here, and not via tox runs | 19:21 |
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cdent | sdague: is your in buffer stuff running out of the same venv? | 19:21 |
sdague | cdent: yep | 19:21 |
cdent | weird | 19:21 |
sdague | but, the whole point of doing pep8 things was to catch real errors and not make folks have to debug their local envs | 19:22 |
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sdague | so I really want to get rid of this thing | 19:22 |
sdague | especially because we actually implemented that in hacking years ago, and deleted it | 19:22 |
cdent | yeah, how did it manage to show up? It's relatively new, yeah? | 19:22 |
sdague | it's new | 19:22 |
sdague | mriedem: it's not in test-requirements | 19:25 |
mriedem | sdague: cdent: while you're both here, | 19:25 |
mriedem | nova-api under httpd in devstack | 19:25 |
cdent | ah yes | 19:26 |
mriedem | sdague: i guess you're right https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/a5d4adbd60291adc2eaaefdf76186edf74523ece | 19:26 |
cdent | that's on our lists | 19:26 |
mriedem | sdague: cdent: so at the ptg you guys said you'd help with that | 19:26 |
mriedem | my ass is grass come p1 | 19:26 |
mriedem | EmilienM is going to be all over me | 19:26 |
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openstackgerrit | ayoung proposed openstack/nova master: Admin API Policy enforcement contingent on is_admin_project https://review.openstack.org/384148 | 19:27 |
EmilienM | I'm not here next week | 19:27 |
cdent | I can probalby do it next weeek then | 19:27 |
mriedem | whew | 19:27 |
sdague | mriedem: the first thing that actually should be done is get placement under uwsgi | 19:27 |
cdent | can probably do that too | 19:27 |
cdent | I'm fairly unscheduled for a very short while | 19:27 |
mriedem | i'm asking b/c i think this came up in the api subteam meeting a couple of weeks ago and i wasn't sure if there was a plan | 19:27 |
mriedem | and we still have that service version bug for the api | 19:28 |
cdent | i'm not aware of a plan, but I think we can probably make one quickly, and make it so | 19:28 |
sdague | cdent: we should really do this under uwsgi and not apache so that the systemd stuff is more useful | 19:28 |
mriedem | systemd systemd systemd | 19:28 |
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mriedem | i was going to say, i thought placement was already running under apache in devstack so didn't think we cared about that one | 19:28 |
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cdent | sdague: If you've got a list of hopes and dreams on this topic that you can write down somewhere (etherpad?) I can start looking into it for real on monday | 19:29 |
cdent | mriedem: we can probably move forward concurrently | 19:29 |
cdent | if we make it work under uwsgi it will also work under apache | 19:29 |
mriedem | sure | 19:29 |
mriedem | i think the release goal was either | 19:29 |
mriedem | but ok | 19:29 |
cdent | devstack likes uwsgi, puppet/tripleo likes mod_wsgi (is that still true?) | 19:30 |
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sdague | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/devstack-uwsgi | 19:31 |
cdent | it's pretty deep into my weekend already so I don't want to get too much into it right now, if possible, I'm just here for the giggles | 19:31 |
cdent | cool | 19:31 |
cdent | I'll watch that | 19:31 |
mtreinish | cdent: actually devstack by default uses mod_wsgi too | 19:31 |
mtreinish | that's how we deploy keystone (and placement too iirc) | 19:31 |
cdent | mtreinish: for now, sure, but the hope and dream is to change | 19:31 |
mtreinish | it supports uwsgi though, and that's a much better model | 19:31 |
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cdent | mtreinish: above I should have said "devstack would like uwsgi..." | 19:32 |
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cdent | but I'm a bad typer in the first place, and especially bad at the end of the week | 19:32 |
mtreinish | cdent: ah, I just misread that as 'devstack uses uwsgi' | 19:33 |
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mtreinish | but from the goal perspective it doesn't actually matter, because as long as the wsgi_script entry point is in the setup.cfg that's enough for anyone to use either model | 19:33 |
sdague | yeh, I just don't want to be doing apache things in devstack because it really breaks the debug flow | 19:33 |
cdent | speaking of the wsgi_script entry point, I think that pbr puts that in $PREFIX/bin is a bug | 19:33 |
sdague | cdent: well, where things can be installed in python is ... limited | 19:34 |
cdent | it requires a <directory /usr/bin> that opens things up in an icky way | 19:34 |
mriedem | so steps are moving placement to uwsgi in devstack, | 19:34 |
mriedem | and then fixing the known service version bug for nova-api, | 19:34 |
sdague | yeh | 19:34 |
mriedem | and then calling out https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/wsgi/nova-api.py in nova's setup.cfg, | 19:34 |
mriedem | and then finally running nova-api under uwsgi? | 19:35 |
sdague | yeh, pretty much | 19:35 |
mriedem | now i have to find the bug again | 19:36 |
sdague | cdent: I do get the concern, we also just have the issue that what you can do in python packaging is kind of limited, and the previous approach was "leave as an exercise to the user" | 19:36 |
cdent | i suppose having it somewhere predictable on the filesystem leaves open the option to move it in a predictable fashion | 19:37 |
sdague | yeh, and more importantly that when you make changes, even in the default scenario it installs over the old default place | 19:37 |
sdague | that was the big issue before | 19:37 |
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mriedem | dansmith: do you have the link to the service version bug for api under wsgi? | 19:37 |
sdague | there was a completely out of band "copy this file now" part of the process | 19:38 |
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mriedem | ah i think this was it https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1661360 | 19:38 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1661360 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "tempest test fails with "Instance not found" error" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Dan Smith (danms) | 19:38 |
cdent | would it make any sense for the wsgi script handling to be a bit like the console-script handling which produces a wrapper file in the installed location that points into the relevant module in the package, such that there isn't any "real" code in the wsgi script? | 19:39 |
dansmith | mriedem: I don't know that I had one | 19:39 |
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sdague | cdent: maybe, but, again it's completely out of bounds | 19:39 |
dansmith | mriedem: I guess that title is rather obscure for this issue | 19:40 |
cdent | "out of bounds" of what? | 19:40 |
sdague | python's idea of where it can install | 19:40 |
cdent | sdague: that's what I'm saying, if we are installing it in /usr/bin and someone moves it, as long as there's not much code in it, the problem of them forgetting to copy the new version into their custom location isn't one, because the "real" code is in site-packages | 19:41 |
mriedem | dansmith: updated the title | 19:41 |
sdague | cdent: that turns out not to be true | 19:41 |
cdent | oh? | 19:41 |
sdague | because even though there is *very* little code in it, there is some | 19:42 |
sdague | like a module and function | 19:42 |
sdague | and, people change that stuff | 19:42 |
cdent | that ought to be a very limited interface, yes? | 19:42 |
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sdague | because they didn't ever think they were signing up for that to be a contract interface | 19:42 |
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sdague | or it turns out we need a fix, like the threading fix | 19:43 |
sdague | cdent: I get the theory, but the fact is we did used to do that hing | 19:43 |
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sdague | and then it broke because people actually needed to make changes in even the trivial stubs | 19:43 |
cdent | the past is a pain | 19:44 |
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cdent | but what we've got | 19:44 |
sdague | right, but given that we needed that before | 19:44 |
sdague | I don't think it's fair to say "we've solved it forever" now | 19:44 |
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sdague | I do really wish that python packaging had more rich constructures for things like SHARE directory and CONFIG directory like perl packaging does | 19:46 |
sdague | because being in SHARE would be ideal | 19:47 |
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mriedem | does go have all of the packaging issues solved? because if so, let's move to go. | 19:47 |
mriedem | i heard dependency management in go is great. | 19:48 |
thomasem | Lol | 19:48 |
thomasem | Coming along https://github.com/golang/dep | 19:48 |
mriedem | dansmith's toilets are all running on golang now | 19:48 |
mriedem | i heard | 19:48 |
mriedem | toilet apps i should say | 19:49 |
dansmith | as far as you know | 19:49 |
thomasem | I can just imagine the applications. | 19:49 |
mriedem | the toilet app in go wipes your ass in half the time | 19:49 |
thomasem | "I can't do that, Dave..." | 19:49 |
mriedem | *blistering* speed | 19:49 |
dansmith | hah | 19:49 |
dansmith | ouch | 19:50 |
thomasem | D= | 19:50 |
cdent | I think this might be a good time to leave. | 19:51 |
mriedem | thanks, i got what i needed out of this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454866/ | 19:51 |
mriedem | to keep ttx at bay | 19:51 |
cdent | \o/ | 19:52 |
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mriedem | we can have an index on a nullable column right? | 19:56 |
mriedem | wondering if we should put an index on services.uuid | 19:56 |
mriedem | for the lookups that the api will be doing | 19:56 |
mriedem | we don't have one for compute_nodes though i guess | 19:57 |
mriedem | maybe we should, we look those up by a list of uuids from the scheduler, but would an index help there/ | 19:57 |
mriedem | ? | 19:57 |
mriedem | where is leakypipes when i need him | 19:57 |
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mriedem | hmm, if we declared the field as unique=True we wouldn't have to index it, but these are not specified that way, presumably b/c they are nullable=True for existing entries that are None | 20:02 |
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mriedem | zzzeek: can you have a unique=True and nullable=True column? | 20:03 |
mriedem | or does the nullable=True defeat the unique constraint? | 20:04 |
mriedem | i know you can't do that in db2, but i think mysql lets you get by with it | 20:04 |
zzzeek | mriedem: yes but the rules for if NULL is counted are not necessarily consistent across backends | 20:04 |
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mriedem | https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/static/indexes-unique.html | 20:06 |
zzzeek | mriedem: A UNIQUE index creates a constraint such that all values in the index must be distinct. An error occurs if you try to add a new row with a key value that matches an existing row. For all engines, a UNIQUE index permits multiple NULL values for columns that can contain NULL. | 20:06 |
mriedem | Null values are not considered equal. | 20:06 |
zzzeek | mriedem: yeah I think SQL server is the one that might be different | 20:06 |
mriedem | and db2 | 20:06 |
mriedem | i at least know that db2 never allowed a unique constraint with nullable columns | 20:07 |
mriedem | it would allow a unique index though i think... | 20:07 |
mriedem | it's been a long time since i had to remember | 20:07 |
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zzzeek | db2 makes oracle look like sqlite, installation-wise, so ive hardly ever run a DB2 | 20:07 |
mriedem | anyway, it sounds like mysql and postgresql are ok with this | 20:07 |
zzzeek | yep | 20:07 |
mriedem | db2 install requires a phd i think | 20:07 |
sdague | mriedem: just half a shelf of manuals | 20:08 |
mriedem | certified db2 installer | 20:08 |
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mriedem | i think i asked someone 5 years ago for a db2 server rpm for simple install and was laughed at | 20:08 |
sdague | which, is kind of dumb, because honestly the install steps are very repeatable | 20:09 |
sdague | they wrote them in the manual, why they didn't just write them in the rpm post-install always blew my mind | 20:09 |
sdague | brb | 20:09 |
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mriedem | zzzeek: if i wanted to make a column unique=True in an alter during an offline migration, is that a pretty bad time sink? | 20:10 |
mriedem | for the compute_nodes table | 20:10 |
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mriedem | so not something as big as the instances table, compute_nodes is what, 10s of thousands at biggest? | 20:10 |
zzzeek | mriedem: well it probably depends on the datatypes you're uniquing, it has to build an index | 20:10 |
mriedem | not sure where rax is at this point | 20:11 |
zzzeek | 10's of thousands is not much | 20:11 |
mriedem | uuid = Column(String(36), nullable=True) | 20:11 |
zzzeek | it should not be a huge time sink but, I dont have an ironclad guarantee on that | 20:11 |
zzzeek | if youre < 1M rows, nothing should be that big of a deal | 20:12 |
mriedem | i don't think cern is running 1M compute nodes yet | 20:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in server_password.py https://review.openstack.org/452259 | 20:21 |
mriedem | dtp: some comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453025/ | 20:26 |
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dtp | ok mriedem | 20:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova master: fix admin context scenarios for cinderclient https://review.openstack.org/384799 | 20:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Stop using Neutron admin token https://review.openstack.org/439890 | 20:32 |
openstackgerrit | Pushkar Umaranikar proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Use service token to authorize neutron port binding https://review.openstack.org/439890 | 20:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add compute_nodes_uuid_idx unique index https://review.openstack.org/454887 | 20:41 |
mriedem | dtp: ^ is the unique index for compute_nodes.uuid | 20:41 |
openstackgerrit | Brianna Poulos proposed openstack/nova-specs master: API Option for Signature Verification https://review.openstack.org/312225 | 20:41 |
dtp | ok | 20:42 |
openstackgerrit | Anusha Unnam proposed openstack/nova master: Add description to policies in servers.py https://review.openstack.org/451966 | 20:42 |
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mriedem | dtp: you want me to start working the online data migration patch to live on top of this one? | 20:47 |
mriedem | the services.uuid patch i mean | 20:47 |
dtp | that's fine w/ me | 20:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: PowerVM Driver: spawn/delete #1: no-ops https://review.openstack.org/438119 | 20:49 |
efried | mriedem ^^ requirements bump to match latest g-r | 20:49 |
efried | mriedem Thanks for the detailed review on #2 as well. Working through it. | 20:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove dead db api code https://review.openstack.org/454889 | 20:55 |
mriedem | dansmith: fun one for you ^ | 20:55 |
dansmith | "fun" | 20:55 |
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student_ | Hi there, I think I have an issue with the nova resources management, I do not have any instance running but it tells me "No valid host was found. There are not enough hosts available." | 21:05 |
student_ | I think it is a config problem with nova, when I am using "nova hypervisor list" command it brings me empty table | 21:05 |
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student_ | it looks like it is waiting to populate, but I cannot create new instances so it is not working | 21:06 |
student_ | and I am using newton on Ubuntu 16.04 | 21:06 |
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mriedem | student_: nova hypervisor list being empty means your nova-compute services aren't registered | 21:15 |
mriedem | there is a problem with the compute nodes checking in to the controller | 21:15 |
mriedem | has nothing to do with running instances | 21:15 |
mriedem | this isn't really the channel for debugging that, | 21:15 |
mriedem | see the channel topic - #openstack is better for general questions like this | 21:15 |
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student_ | mriedem they have send me here :| | 21:21 |
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mriedem | well your compute node isn't checking in so i'd check your nova-compute logs for errors | 21:21 |
mriedem | and make sure it's configured correctly to talk to the controller | 21:21 |
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student_ | mriedem I have only one server- controller node | 21:22 |
student_ | my nova-conductor.log http://paste.openstack.org/show/605649/ also nova-scheduler.log file http://paste.openstack.org/show/605647/ | 21:22 |
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efried | student_ First suspect is to check the compute log (might be called nova-compute.log or n-cpu.log) and see if an exception prevented that guy from starting up. | 21:47 |
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student_ | efried thank you I will check it out | 21:50 |
efried | student_ Good luck. | 21:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add uuid to Service model https://review.openstack.org/453025 | 21:56 |
openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add online data migration for populating services.uuid https://review.openstack.org/454899 | 21:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Add a functional test for 'removeFloatingIp' action https://review.openstack.org/453026 | 22:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Example verification for servers-actions.inc https://review.openstack.org/454565 | 22:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: PowerVM Driver: spawn/destroy #3: TaskFlow https://review.openstack.org/438729 | 22:50 |
efried | harlowja ^^ Digging those timing listeners! | 22:51 |
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harlowja | efried sweeet | 22:53 |
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harlowja | should be possible to do other crazy things if u want | 22:54 |
efried | harlowja I can see that. | 22:54 |
harlowja | like i always imagined a (mostly) real-time-dashboard that would show the workflow progressing | 22:54 |
efried | So far we only wanted to do these two crazy things in particular | 22:54 |
harlowja | it'd be like the ulitmate debug/visualization | 22:54 |
harlowja | like, not only do u have the logs from nova | 22:55 |
harlowja | but here is the trace of the workflow | 22:55 |
efried | harlowja https://pastebin.com/raw/wPk9F9Cs | 22:55 |
harlowja | ya, timing stuffs | 22:55 |
harlowja | nice to have to diagnoiss problems | 22:55 |
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harlowja | i always wanted to integrate it with osprofiler more | 22:57 |
harlowja | maybe somedday, ha | 22:57 |
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