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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in libvirt/test_driver.py (3) https://review.openstack.org/569320 | 01:04 |
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| yumapath | hi anyone there who can help with nova PCI passthrough | 05:06 |
| yumapath | am hitting issues with the same, not able to successfully put a pci card in passthrough mode | 05:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in libvirt/test_driver.py (5) https://review.openstack.org/570842 | 06:12 |
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| jichen | hi dansmith: sorry to disturb again, could you please help to approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562154/ as most info already in the ML ? Thanks | 06:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Remove network info stubbing in functional test https://review.openstack.org/570018 | 07:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add request_spec.RequestGroup versioned object https://review.openstack.org/568840 | 07:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add requested_resources field to RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/567267 | 07:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transfer port.resource_request to the scheduler https://review.openstack.org/567268 | 07:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Send resource allocations in the port binding https://review.openstack.org/569459 | 07:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add bandwidth related standard resource classes https://review.openstack.org/570847 | 07:07 |
| gibi | good morning nova | 07:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vishakha Agarwal proposed openstack/nova master: Re-using the code of os brick cinder https://review.openstack.org/565703 | 07:17 |
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| Multiple_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563418/ | 07:32 |
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| Multiple_ | Please have a look at the review.. only a minor change of adding a retry decorator | 07:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lei Zhang proposed openstack/nova master: Add method to get cpu traits https://review.openstack.org/560317 | 08:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: Remove unused function https://review.openstack.org/570865 | 08:41 |
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| lyarwood | stephenfin, mdbooth_, bauzas : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/569062/ - would you mind taking a look at this bugfix today if you have time? | 09:04 |
| stephenfin | sure | 09:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add rules column to instance_group_policy table. https://review.openstack.org/560832 | 09:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy to InstanceGroup object and api models. https://review.openstack.org/563375 | 09:38 |
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| stephenfin | lyarwood: Did you say something about us planning to rework how volume drivers (or something to do with volumes?) are implemented in nova? | 09:52 |
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| stephenfin | lyarwood: In relation to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482640/ | 09:54 |
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| lyarwood | stephenfin: yeah, I wasn't sure if this was going to be an imagebackend or volume driver, we don't want the former and this isn't so it's cool :) | 09:57 |
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| stephenfin | Ah, image backends. Gotcha | 09:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: libvirt: slow live-migration to ensure network is ready https://review.openstack.org/559032 | 10:06 |
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| lyarwood | kashyap: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/569442/ - can you close these backport out given https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570271/ has landed in stable? | 10:32 |
| kashyap | lyarwood: I will; that fated forced thing | 10:32 |
| kashyap | Done. | 10:33 |
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| lyarwood | kashyap: thanks | 10:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhuangzejian proposed openstack/nova master: Fix doc mistakes https://review.openstack.org/570894 | 10:45 |
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| stephenfin | bauzas: Can you send this docs patch on its way https://review.openstack.org/#/c/540887/ | 10:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chen proposed openstack/nova master: Fix some inconsistencies in doc https://review.openstack.org/570407 | 12:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Chen proposed openstack/nova master: Fix some inconsistencies in doc https://review.openstack.org/570407 | 12:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: Add regression test for bug #1764883 https://review.openstack.org/562072 | 12:05 |
| openstack | bug 1764883 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Evacuation fails if the source host returns while the migration is still in progress" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1764883 - Assigned to Lee Yarwood (lyarwood) | 12:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: compute: Ignore active evacuations during _init_instance https://review.openstack.org/562284 | 12:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/pike: Add ssbd and virt-ssbd flags to cpu_model_extra_flags whitelist https://review.openstack.org/570513 | 12:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/queens: Don't reschedule on RequestedVRamTooHigh errors https://review.openstack.org/568642 | 12:39 |
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| efried | ō/ | 12:46 |
| gibi | efried: o/ | 12:47 |
| gibi | efried: thankd for the comments on the bandwidth patch series, I'm going through those right now | 12:48 |
| efried | cool | 12:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/queens: Add random sleep between retry calls to placement https://review.openstack.org/568218 | 12:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/queens: xenapi: handle InstanceNotFound in detach_interface() https://review.openstack.org/564468 | 12:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/queens: Improve performance when list instances with IP filter https://review.openstack.org/563972 | 12:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/queens: Add nova-status check for ironic flavor migration https://review.openstack.org/563250 | 12:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/queens: Log a warning and add nova-status check for old API service versions https://review.openstack.org/563251 | 12:52 |
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| efried | mriedem: What was [1] supposed to be here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-May/130768.html ? Maybe jaypipes' https://review.openstack.org/#/c/553597/ ? | 13:09 |
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| mriedem | known issue? | 13:25 |
| mriedem | chmod: cannot access '/home/zuul/workspace/logs/reproduce.sh': No such file or directory | 13:25 |
| sahid | mriedem: about the vftrusted feature, i think i have addressed all you comments | 13:26 |
| sahid | did i missed something you want me to add? | 13:26 |
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| mriedem | sahid: i just need to go through it again | 13:35 |
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| sahid | mriedem: ok ok pefect so, i will wait for your feedback | 13:38 |
| efried | mriedem: What was [1] supposed to be here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-May/130768.html ? Maybe jaypipes' https://review.openstack.org/#/c/553597/ ? | 13:38 |
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| sahid | efried, mriedem if I can ask.. I saw you on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510897/ ...that patch just need a final ACK so the feature will be completed | 13:40 |
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| efried | sahid: That one is pretty far out of my wheelhouse, better to let mriedem be the +A (or get stephenfin to look again). | 13:41 |
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| mriedem | i'm currently trying to sort out the broken gate | 13:41 |
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| efried | priorities | 13:43 |
| sahid | yep, that patch can continue to wait | 13:43 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | Hi, I have a silly question, I know the answer but I have to get an “official reply” from the community | 13:55 |
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| mriedem | efried: should have been https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/configuration/schedulers.html#aggregates-in-placement for [1] | 13:56 |
| efried | ack | 13:57 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | Our product provided a function -> output the list api reply as chart(like excel), somehow instances’ name with particular string could trigger functions like calculators etc, could nova do something about it? | 13:58 |
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| mriedem | Kevin_Zheng: no | 13:59 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | Why? | 14:00 |
| mriedem | i don't think we'll add a blacklist to server names because people also put them into csv files | 14:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: mirror nova host aggregate members to placement https://review.openstack.org/553597 | 14:00 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | It will be impossible to cover all the special strings because there could be so many for different file formats? | 14:03 |
| mriedem | Kevin_Zheng: for starters, "we need a change upstream to fix a problem in our downstream fork of the API" isn't justification for anything going upstream | 14:04 |
| fishbone__ | hello all, I receive an error in the instance log when loading windows instances: pywintypes.com_error: (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, 'Session', 'Access is denied. ', None, 0, -2147024891), None) any probable causes? | 14:04 |
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| efried | Kevin_Zheng: You could use a restrictive instance name template... | 14:05 |
| mriedem | also, i thought openstackclient already handled converting output to csv format | 14:05 |
| Kevin_Zheng | really? I don’t know that, I will check that | 14:05 |
| mriedem | efried: that's not the display_name https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#DEFAULT.instance_name_template | 14:05 |
| mriedem | Kevin_Zheng: how was this implemented? the client gives a csv accept header in the request and gets csv rather than json in the response? | 14:06 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | mriedem: No, I think it is a function that can output the results to a file | 14:07 |
| Kevin_Zheng | Like a button | 14:07 |
| mriedem | umm | 14:08 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | They just ask if it is possible to add some rules for instance names | 14:09 |
| mriedem | that doesn't make sense to me | 14:09 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | Yeah, thinking again, even if we check on the name, something else could also trigger the function, like description | 14:11 |
| Kevin_Zheng | We will never check on those | 14:11 |
| mriedem | openstackclient has a --format csv option, not sure why your users wouldn't just use that, rather than change the api | 14:11 |
| mriedem | and if you did change the api to return a different response format, it should have been via an accept header | 14:11 |
| mriedem | as far as i understand rest api / http rules | 14:12 |
| Kevin_Zheng | I have to check the details tomorrow about how it is actually implemented | 14:13 |
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| Kevin_Zheng | mriedem_away: another thing I need your help, I want to discuss with you before updating the abort migration in queue patch, how should I deal with migrations with status in “preparing”? My idea was to wait it change to “running” or “error” as we can already deal with “running” migrations and could could probably ignore “error” migrations. So I added that loop. What do you suggest? | 14:17 |
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| bhagyashris | efried: Hi, Want to discuss regarding functional test case part for the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560459/ . What I did was created new FakeLibvirtDriver in nova/virt/fake.py implement the updat_provider_tree() method same as in nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py and given that compute_driver = 'fake.FakeLibvirtDriver' in functional test case | 14:43 |
| efried | bhagyashris: Okay, instead of duplicating the code, FakeLibvirtDriver should be a subclass of the real libvirt driver. | 14:44 |
| efried | bhagyashris: otherwise, yes, that's the right approach. Were you able to get the test working with that setup? | 14:45 |
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| bhagyashris | efried: yes. and I have also tried on approach same as you suggested what i have did created the libvirt driver object in my FakeLibvirtDriver class and try to call the update_provider_tree() method using the libvirt object but i am getting error as File "nova/virt/fake.py", line 754, in __init__ super(FakeLibvirtDriver, self).__init__(virtapi, read_only) File "nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py | 14:48 |
| bhagyashris | File "nova/virt/fake.py", line 754, in __init__ | 14:49 |
| efried | bhagyashris: It sounds like you're trying to instantiate the driver as a separate instance attribute within your fake driver class. What you should do instead is have your fake driver class be a *subclass* of the real virt driver class. | 14:49 |
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| efried | class FakeLibvirtDriver(LibvirtDriver): | 14:50 |
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| efried | Then you don't have to override update_provider_tree - which you want to avoid anyway, since then changes to the original method won't automatically be reflected in your test. | 14:51 |
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| efried | bhagyashris: Take a look at nova.tests.unit.virt.libvirt.test_driver.HostStateTestCase.FakeConnection | 14:52 |
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| bhagyashris | efried: But anyway In that case as well i will need to implement the update_provider_tree() method in my FakeLibvirtDriver right? | 15:06 |
| efried | bhagyashris: No. That's the whole point. You want to use the implementation from the superclass. | 15:07 |
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| bhagyashris | efried: ok. just inherit the LibvirtDriver class in my FakeLibvirtDriver and give this FakeLibvirtDriver as copute_driver in test case | 15:12 |
| efried | bhagyashris: Correct. | 15:12 |
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| efried | bhagyashris: You may have to override certain other methods with stubs to get the "deploy" to work. | 15:13 |
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| bhagyashris | efried: ok thank you :) | 15:15 |
| efried | bhagyashris: Good luck :) | 15:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add request_spec.RequestGroup versioned object https://review.openstack.org/568840 | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add requested_resources field to RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/567267 | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add bandwidth related standard resource classes https://review.openstack.org/570847 | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transfer port.resource_request to the scheduler https://review.openstack.org/567268 | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Send resource allocations in the port binding https://review.openstack.org/569459 | 15:16 |
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| gibi | efried: ^^ I think I fixed/answered your concerns | 15:26 |
| efried | gibi: ack. Still catching up, will get to it... soon? | 15:26 |
| gibi | efried: most of the patches still lack of unit test | 15:26 |
| efried | ack | 15:26 |
| gibi | efried: you don't have to rush as I hope there will be some neutron code up this week as well and that could allow us to have some integrated test as wel | 15:27 |
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| efried | ack | 15:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jan Gutter proposed openstack/os-vif master: Add multiqueue field to VIFGeneric https://review.openstack.org/570959 | 15:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Avoid showing password in log https://review.openstack.org/561850 | 16:12 |
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| mgagne | mriedem: what's the best way for me to review and test the allocation healer? I'm still running Mitaka. My understanding is that I would need to run a more recent version? | 16:25 |
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| mriedem | mgagne: yeah probably at least pike, although i'm not sure if any of the internal interfaces i'm using in that CLI have changed since then | 16:29 |
| mriedem | mgagne: could be possible to setup a small pike test environment with the caching scheduler, create some servers, resize one or two of them, and then run the heal_allocations CLI | 16:30 |
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| mriedem | i can also test that out if/when i get some free time (first day back after the summit) | 16:30 |
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| mriedem | gibi: want to skip the notifications meeting today? i'm still getting caught up from last week | 16:31 |
| mgagne | mriedem: I suppose master would be best? I can try to setup a test environment in our infra. It would however be a non-trivial amount of effort as I'm not familiar with devstack and would probably do it "our way". | 16:31 |
| mriedem | mgagne: sure whatever you're most comfortable with is best | 16:32 |
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| mgagne | mriedem: alright, I will attempt to squeeze time for that. | 16:32 |
| mriedem | great, thanks | 16:33 |
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| mgagne | mriedem: btw, regarding cellsv1 -> cellsv2, a light bulb lighten up at the summit. I was previously under the impression that you *had* to run cellsv2 in ocata and that cellsv1 was removing/non-compatible, making a migration impossible due to me requiring support for multi-cells. | 16:34 |
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| mriedem | nope | 16:36 |
| mriedem | so you're 4.5% happier now right? :) | 16:36 |
| mgagne | 99% ? =) | 16:36 |
| mriedem | mgagne: our cells v1 CI job is still cells v1 with a single cell1 for the nova db in the child cell and cell0 | 16:36 |
| mriedem | it's not multiple child cells, but still cells v1 | 16:37 |
| mgagne | all that time... ^^' | 16:37 |
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| mriedem | cool, glad it's more clear now | 16:37 |
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| mriedem | jmlowe: did you get my 2nd email about checking the allocation records for the compute nodes that are failing to live migrate? | 16:42 |
| jmlowe | I did, turns out my allocations are a mess | 16:42 |
| gibi | mriedem: besides what I wrote in the summary mail today on the ML I have nothing else for the meeting | 16:42 |
| mriedem | gibi: ok | 16:43 |
| jmlowe | I cleaned up the double allocations | 16:43 |
| jmlowe | then I found allocations on the wrong host | 16:43 |
| gibi | mriedem: so I will open the meeting to see if somebody new shows up but will close it in 5 minutes | 16:43 |
| mriedem | jmlowe: hmm, ok. still weird that the problem didn't show up with normal server create. | 16:43 |
| jmlowe | I really could use that new force create of allocations | 16:43 |
| mriedem | jmlowe: the force option mentioned in my heal_allocations patch? | 16:44 |
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| jmlowe | I'm whipping up something to check nova location vs placement allocation location | 16:44 |
| jmlowe | yeah that, my current workaround is to delete then live migrate | 16:44 |
| mriedem | ok. wonder how everything got so messed up in the first place, but like i said in the email, there were bugs in the pike GA regarding properly cleaning up allocations when something failed - those have all been fixed in stable pike point releases, but you could have had cruft from the GA | 16:45 |
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| jmlowe | I figure I've got no chance of things working as expected unless all of the placement allocations are correct | 16:46 |
| jmlowe | I did have a thought, we do lots of shelving and unshelving, any chance allocations are getting correctly updated during unshelve? | 16:48 |
| jaypipes | jmlowe: you mean shelve_offloading? | 16:48 |
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| jmlowe | yes | 16:48 |
| jaypipes | jmlowe: because I don't believe shelving (without offloading) affects allocations. could be wrong though. | 16:48 |
| jaypipes | shelve is possibly one of the worst designed things in Nova... </grumbling> | 16:49 |
| mriedem | when we shelve offload, the allocations for the node on which the instance is running will be deleted | 16:49 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/pike/nova/compute/manager.py#L4496 | 16:49 |
| dansmith | he said "without offloading" | 16:50 |
| mriedem | when you unshelve, you go through the scheduler which will create allocations against the selected destination host | 16:50 |
| mriedem | where did he say 'without offloading'? | 16:50 |
| jmlowe | Really need it for our workflows, scientist does data analysis and runs for several weeks, shelves and goes off to write up results, submits paper and waits a couple of months to hear back from reviewers, unshelves and reruns based on reviewers comments | 16:51 |
| dansmith | <jaypipes>jmlowe: because I don't believe shelving (without offloading) affects allocations. could be wrong though. | 16:51 |
| mriedem | jay said that | 16:51 |
| mriedem | by default shelve offloads immediately | 16:51 |
| mriedem | and removes allocatoins | 16:51 |
| dansmith | yeah, I thought you were contradicting jaypipes' comment | 16:51 |
| mriedem | no, i thought jay was asking for clarification | 16:51 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: I learned something about the importance of shelve this summit by the way | 16:51 |
| mriedem | to which jmlowe said "yes" to shelve_offload | 16:51 |
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| jmlowe | that default behavior is why I tend to drop the offloading when referring to it | 16:51 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: related to my apparent misunderstanding of how AWS works | 16:51 |
| mriedem | jmlowe: same here | 16:51 |
| mriedem | jmlowe: so shelve / unshelve should be ok wrt allocations | 16:52 |
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| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/494632/ | 16:52 |
| mriedem | that was in the pike GA also | 16:52 |
| jmlowe | I'll start spot checking history once I get a list of all the errant allocations | 16:53 |
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| cfriesen | dansmith: I'll bite...what did you learn about shelve? | 16:53 |
| * mriedem takes notes that jmlowe is someone to go to for shelve usage questions | 16:53 | |
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| dansmith | cfriesen: weren't you in that cyborg session? | 16:54 |
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| cfriesen | dansmith: if I was I missed the important bit. :) | 16:54 |
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| dansmith | cfriesen: that the AWS equivalent of our stop/start involves a reschedule and is actually a little more equivalent to our shelve(-offload) and unshelve in terms of freeing resources (and the associated billing) | 16:55 |
| cfriesen | dansmith: ah, okay. makes sense. I never could figure out the logic of why we have stop/suspend/pause when they all still consume resources. | 16:56 |
| dansmith | well, just lifecycle of a pet, but I had assumed we imported that from AWS for parity | 16:57 |
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| jmlowe | I'd kill for the ability to offline migrate a suspended instance btw | 16:57 |
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| cfriesen | jmlowe: should be technically doable. | 16:58 |
| jmlowe | cfriesen: right, just move the definition and the file where the state is written? | 16:58 |
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| cfriesen | jmlowe: essentially. the resource tracking and wiring up the networking and storage and whatnot are the tricky bits | 16:59 |
| dansmith | yeah, a little more complicated than that | 16:59 |
| dansmith | I thought that cold migrate could do it though | 16:59 |
| cfriesen | dansmith: if not, I bet it wouldn't be horrendous to add it | 17:00 |
| jmlowe | haven't tried for a while | 17:00 |
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| dansmith | or do you mean actually suspended (i.e. memory state saved) ? | 17:01 |
| cfriesen | dansmith: looks like we only cold-migrate "active" or "stopped" instances | 17:01 |
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| dansmith | yeah, I assumed he meant suspended==stopped | 17:02 |
| dansmith | I'm not sure I understand the rationale for suspend in the cloud either | 17:02 |
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| dansmith | maybe faster boot for slow-to-start applications or something, but.. | 17:02 |
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| yumapath | hi can i get some help on putting pci devices in passthrough mode | 17:02 |
| yumapath | https://docs.openstack.org/nova/pike/admin/pci-passthrough.html | 17:02 |
| cfriesen | dansmith: in order to manage disk space on compute nodes we ended up making "suspend" behave like "pause" | 17:02 |
| yumapath | i followed this link , but not able to get things working | 17:03 |
| yumapath | if anyone out there can help me that would be great | 17:03 |
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| dansmith | cfriesen: for what gain? | 17:05 |
| dansmith | oh, | 17:05 |
| dansmith | suspend like pause | 17:05 |
| dansmith | so they don't take up extra space with the memory image? | 17:05 |
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| jmlowe | hmm, so it would seem out of 946 instances two were in the wrong place, about two dozen don't have allocations | 17:12 |
| jmlowe | last instance action for the one in the wrong place was an errored live migration | 17:14 |
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| cfriesen | dansmith: was away from keyboard. yeah, otherwise we'd need to reserve as much disk space as we have guest RAM, which might be an issue on small-disk compute nodes. | 17:20 |
| dansmith | yeah, makes sense. unfortunately it changes the behavior the api user expects | 17:21 |
| cfriesen | dansmith: agreed. though the practical difference between the two is minimal | 17:23 |
| jaypipes | jmlowe: sorry, had a phone call... ok, sorry, hope you are ready for a stream of opinions coming from me... here goes... | 17:24 |
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| dansmith | cfriesen: well, if you're using pause for fast HA, the startup time may differ significantly, but also suspend should survive host reboots, power outages, etc | 17:24 |
| dansmith | cfriesen: but yes, similar | 17:24 |
| jaypipes | jmlowe: a) application state should *never* be saved in a VM disk image. it should always be saved only to a persistent volume that can be attached/detached as needed. | 17:25 |
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| jmlowe | great in theory, now fix 40 years of domain specific scientific code | 17:25 |
| jaypipes | jmlowe: b) if you need persistent IP addresses, then those IP addresses should be managed outside of the scope of Nova (i.e. created in Neutron and attached to a Nova VM on boot). Then detached from the VM when no longer needed. | 17:26 |
| jaypipes | jmlowe: like I said, my opinion... :) | 17:26 |
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| jmlowe | case in point, most domestic weather forecasting is done with WRF, there is exactly one guy in the world who still knows how it works, he was brought out of retirement at UCAR, there is a new model in the works but I don't think it's ready for primetime yet | 17:27 |
| jaypipes | jmlowe: c) you will end up spending more money and time working around coupled app state and configuration instead of investing the time in decoupling the app configuration and state and treating all your VMs as cattle instead of pets. | 17:27 |
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| jaypipes | jmlowe: ok, I'm done with my opinion stream. :) I recognize there are real and unworkaroundble constraints that you and others suffer with. I'm just pointing out my experience and long-term strategy, nothing more. | 17:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/pike: Stringify instance UUID https://review.openstack.org/569421 | 17:29 |
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| jmlowe | I have thousands of pets, they technically aren't even mine, I'd guess of my ~2400 users 100 have the chops to rework their applications | 17:30 |
| jaypipes | jmlowe: understood. | 17:30 |
| jmlowe | I tackle them one at a time, in a few centuries I will have made major progress | 17:30 |
| jaypipes | heh :) touche. | 17:31 |
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| jaypipes | yumapath: you will need to be more specific that "but not able to get things working"./ | 17:32 |
| jaypipes | s/that/than | 17:32 |
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| mriedem | cfriesen: are you aware of anything in the pci whitelist that must be case sensitive? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/565808/4/nova/pci/utils.py | 17:39 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: not my area of expertise | 17:47 |
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| cfriesen | mriedem: our pci guy seems to be away at the moment. | 17:48 |
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| mriedem | jmlowe: ok so it sounds like what i expected, the failed live migration was probably before we patched pike to cleanup allocations properly in that case | 18:03 |
| mriedem | jmlowe: any ideas on the ones that don't have allocations at all? | 18:04 |
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| jmlowe | I haven't really found a pattern, other than they existed during 16.0 vs our current 16.1 | 18:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in libvirt/test_driver.py (3) https://review.openstack.org/569320 | 18:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in libvirt/test_driver.py (4) https://review.openstack.org/570750 | 18:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in libvirt/test_driver.py (5) https://review.openstack.org/570842 | 18:05 |
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| mriedem | jmlowe: did you look at the instance action records for the ones that don't have allocations? | 18:08 |
| jmlowe | http://paste.openstack.org/show/722279/ | 18:09 |
| mriedem | did req-e0d0edd7-74ee-40d0-b538-9f15f0242183 fail? | 18:10 |
| jmlowe | NAFAICT | 18:10 |
| jmlowe | failed ones tended to get double allocations | 18:10 |
| jmlowe | or allocated on the wrong (probably target) host | 18:11 |
| mriedem | can you do a "nova instance-action <server> req-e0d0edd7-74ee-40d0-b538-9f15f0242183" on that same instance from the paste? | 18:11 |
| jmlowe | http://paste.openstack.org/show/722283/ | 18:12 |
| mriedem | do you have any ocata compute services running? | 18:13 |
| jmlowe | no | 18:14 |
| jmlowe | I get the warnings about only have pike won't update allocation in the nova compute logs | 18:14 |
| mriedem | ok yeah that's what i was thinking of | 18:14 |
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| efried | jaypipes: Finally finished https://review.openstack.org/#/c/553597/ -- thanks for your patience | 18:17 |
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| mriedem | wonder if we have a bug here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/pike/nova/compute/manager.py#L5823 | 18:19 |
| mriedem | that should only remove the instance's allocations against the source node after a successful live migration, | 18:19 |
| mriedem | the dest host allocations are created during scheduling | 18:19 |
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| jmlowe | mriedem: not exactly the same thing, but along those lines http://paste.openstack.org/show/722290/ | 18:59 |
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| jmlowe | something doesn't add up | 19:00 |
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| mriedem | is instance 6c4e5035-8a42-4e37-8e90-3ba142ecd5aa running on r06c2b03? | 19:04 |
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| mriedem | jmlowe: what does "openstack resource provider inventory list b0f5d569-687f-43a2-9bdb-309a29597125" show? | 19:07 |
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| mriedem | looking at that allocation output, you have 3 instances running on that host with a total of 126976 memory mb consumed | 19:08 |
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| jmlowe | http://paste.openstack.org/show/722293/ | 19:08 |
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| mriedem | ok and that says there is 130850 mb total of memory | 19:09 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: efried: should max_unit ever be > total - reserved? | 19:11 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: I would think it could be | 19:11 |
| efried | mriedem: I think it should be allowed. | 19:11 |
| dansmith | mriedem: consider the case of ironic | 19:11 |
| dansmith | well, that'd be equal I guess | 19:12 |
| efried | Because you should be able to change total and/or reserved without having to worry about also "fixing" max_unit at the same time. | 19:12 |
| dansmith | yeah | 19:12 |
| mriedem | fine fine | 19:12 |
| dansmith | well, yeah, ironic would be total=1, reserved=1, max_unit=1, total-reserved=0 | 19:12 |
| dansmith | for the cleaning state | 19:12 |
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| jmlowe | there are 3 instances running on that host, 158726ec-f09d-443c-a700-cce79cd065e0, 5053ebcc-9145-4297-b60f-f2c74ce95aef, 950be30e-a275-4533-9d42-53df6145545b | 19:14 |
| mriedem | jmlowe: how many servers show up on that host if you do "nova hypervisor-servers r06c2b03"? | 19:14 |
| mriedem | same 3? | 19:14 |
| jmlowe | yep, check nova and virsh | 19:14 |
| mriedem | ok, i'm not sure why free_ram_mb shows up as -122863 | 19:15 |
| jaypipes | efried: np | 19:15 |
| jmlowe | this host did once have a allocation for an instance that wasn't present | 19:16 |
| mriedem | based on my calculations you should have 17mb of free ram on that host | 19:16 |
| mriedem | 130850 total - 3857 reserved - 126976 (sum memory mb of allocations of the 3 instances on that host) | 19:16 |
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| jmlowe | Is there some cache somewhere that needs updated? | 19:17 |
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| mriedem | don't think so, i'm probably missing something in the free ram calculation in the resource tracker, like what the virt driver computes for overhead | 19:18 |
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| mriedem | although the libvirt driver doesn't do anything wrt memory_mb overhead | 19:19 |
| esberglu | melwitt: Not sure if you saw my message last week with the summit | 19:19 |
| esberglu | PowerVM vSCSI CI is enabled | 19:19 |
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| esberglu | So you should be able to remove the procedural -2 from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526094/ | 19:19 |
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| mriedem | jmlowe: i see this comment but i'm not sure what it means about policy https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/pike/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py#L913 | 19:21 |
| mriedem | i assume oversubscription? | 19:22 |
| cfriesen | mriedem: jmlowe: is anything else on that compute node consuming ram outside of openstack/qemu/etc? | 19:22 |
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| jmlowe | free shows 82G free | 19:22 |
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| cfriesen | jmlowe: I think that's largely irrelevent for 4KB pages since they're only allocated on demand. | 19:28 |
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| dansmith | cfriesen: other stuff on the box consuming memory shouldn't be represented in placement in any way | 19:29 |
| dansmith | other than reserved if configured in nova | 19:29 |
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| melwitt | esberglu: yep, just need to take a look through and will remove the -2 | 19:32 |
| esberglu | Sounds good thanks | 19:32 |
| cfriesen | libvirt.host.Host.get_memory_mb_used() looks at actual memory usage on the host | 19:33 |
| cfriesen | dansmith: ^ | 19:33 |
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| dansmith | cfriesen: right but that shouldn't be what we're reporting as reserved | 19:34 |
| mriedem | what we report as reserved comes from config | 19:34 |
| dansmith | right ^ | 19:34 |
| mriedem | what we report as total comes from nova.virt.libvirt.host.Host.get_memory_mb_total | 19:34 |
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| mriedem | what we report as used is based on the instances running on the host via the nova db, not what the driver tells us | 19:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Standardize CPU resource tracking https://review.openstack.org/555081 | 21:00 |
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| mriedem | melwitt: not sure if you've thought about it, but we have two things in runway slots that either expire today or tomorrow; was wondering if you wanted to do a 'grace period' extension for those given the summit last week | 21:03 |
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| melwitt | mriedem: yeah, I was thinking about something like that. I think it makes sense given the summit week | 21:05 |
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| melwitt | maybe just extend all 3 by a week from today? they all have similar original end dates | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | sure | 21:16 |
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| efried | ++ | 21:25 |
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| melwitt | cool, will update | 21:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zack Cornelius proposed openstack/nova master: Implement file backed memory for instances in libvirt https://review.openstack.org/567876 | 21:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Zack Cornelius proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor libvirt get_memory_used_mb() https://review.openstack.org/571030 | 21:34 |
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| mriedem | efried: jaypipes: is it your understanding that if i have a pci request with some entry that's not found in the pci whitelist for a given compute host, the scheduler will filter out that host? | 22:06 |
| mriedem | and that entry can be something totally random, like just foo=bar | 22:06 |
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| efried | mriedem: Been a while since I looked at that travesty^W code, but yes, that's my understanding. | 22:06 |
| mriedem | ok | 22:06 |
| mriedem | hard for me to reason by digging through the spaghetti | 22:07 |
| mriedem | i could write a functional test to make sure, but... | 22:07 |
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| efried | wait, maybe I misunderstood. You're asking about a *whitelist* entry of foo=bar+ | 22:07 |
| efried | ? | 22:07 |
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| efried | mriedem: The super simplified version, IIRC, is that we take whitelist, intersect it with what's reported by get_available_resource, and then look for the requested dev in that intersection. If not found, that host is filtered out. | 22:09 |
| efried | And it's pretty easy for that first intersection to wind up empty | 22:09 |
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| mriedem | yeah, for context, i'm reviewing sahid's trusted VF series, which links up a port whose binding profile can have a "trusted" key in it, and that goes into the InstancePCIRequest if trusted is truthy | 22:11 |
| mriedem | now if we have all non-libvirt, or all queens computes, | 22:11 |
| mriedem | there are not going to be any hosts that understand what that trusted tag is in in the pci request via the port binding profile, | 22:11 |
| mriedem | and i wanted to know if the scheduler will kick that request out | 22:11 |
| mriedem | since none of the computes would have the matching 'trusted' tag in their pci whitelist yet | 22:11 |
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| efried | mriedem: Oh, okay. I'm pretty sure we ignore keys we don't recognize. | 22:17 |
| efried | mriedem: So adding a random key on an old compute wouldn't cause things to be kicked out where they were previously accepted. | 22:18 |
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| efried | I *think*. | 22:18 |
| mriedem | i don't think so, looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/565808/4/nova/pci/utils.py | 22:18 |
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| mriedem | pci_dev comes from the pci whitelist right? | 22:18 |
| mriedem | and specs is from the InstancePCIRequest.specs | 22:19 |
| efried | you're going to make me look at this code, aren't you | 22:19 |
| mriedem | so if the key was in specs but not the pci whitelist, i think we'd reject it because | 22:19 |
| mriedem | pci_dev_v != v | 22:19 |
| mriedem | also | 22:20 |
| mriedem | pci_dev_v != v | 22:20 |
| mriedem | oops | 22:20 |
| mriedem | 'spec': fields.ListOfDictOfNullableStringsField(), | 22:20 |
| mriedem | NICE! | 22:20 |
| mriedem | ListOfSchmorgazboard | 22:20 |
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| efried | mriedem: Okay, so the stuff on L53-6 does what I said, I think. That is, if you ask for k=v in the spec, the dev in the (intersected whitelist + virt-reported) dev list must have that k=v. But any k in the dev list that's not present in the spec is ignored. | 22:27 |
| efried | ...and I believe pci_dev is the (intersected) thingy. | 22:28 |
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| mriedem | oh yeah, extra garbage in the pci passthrough_whitelist is ignored, | 22:33 |
| mriedem | but stuff that's in the spec must be in the whitelist | 22:33 |
| mriedem | which is what i want | 22:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: pci: don't consider case when match tags specs https://review.openstack.org/565808 | 22:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: configure trust mode for vfs https://review.openstack.org/458514 | 22:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: add vf_trusted field for network metadata https://review.openstack.org/566343 | 22:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: metadata: add vf_trusted field to device metadata https://review.openstack.org/566344 | 22:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: network: update pci request spec to handle trusted tags https://review.openstack.org/458820 | 22:36 |
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| mriedem | so, are the pci passthrough_whitelist entries supposed to be lists, or dicts, or either as long as they are serialized json? | 22:53 |
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| mriedem | i guess each entry is a serialized dict and we convert it into a list | 22:54 |
| mriedem | er, list or dict, and can be multiples of them | 22:55 |
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| efried | mriedem: Yeah, it can be any of those things. It's super confusing. | 23:03 |
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