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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Fix doc mistakes https://review.openstack.org/570894 | 01:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add rules column to instance_group_policy table. https://review.openstack.org/560832 | 02:28 |
openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy to InstanceGroup object and api models. https://review.openstack.org/563375 | 02:28 |
openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy field to ServerGroup notification object https://review.openstack.org/563401 | 02:28 |
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openstackgerrit | tianhui proposed openstack/nova master: Fix doc mistakes https://review.openstack.org/571082 | 03:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Nguyen Hai proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Follow the new PTI for document build https://review.openstack.org/551802 | 05:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy field to ServerGroup notification object https://review.openstack.org/563401 | 06:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Chris Friesen proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add support for emulated virtual TPM https://review.openstack.org/571111 | 07:11 |
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openstackgerrit | zhaodan7597 proposed openstack/nova master: fix a bug, when creating a vmware instance from a volume,and it goes to error state, the volume still in "in use" state. https://review.openstack.org/571112 | 07:18 |
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openstackgerrit | zhaodan7597 proposed openstack/nova master: fix a bug, when creating a vmware instance from a volume,and it goes to error state, the volume still in "in use" state. Closes-Bug:#1774137 Change-Id: I987d9b46c82b66ecc0ef2453bdd7fce6d3a7810d https://review.openstack.org/571112 | 08:56 |
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openstackgerrit | tianhui proposed openstack/nova master: Fix doc mistakes https://review.openstack.org/571147 | 09:23 |
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openstackgerrit | zhaodan7597 proposed openstack/nova master: when creating a vmware instance from volume failed ,detach the volume Closes-Bug:#1774137 Change-Id: I987d9b46c82b66ecc0ef2453bdd7fce6d3a7810d https://review.openstack.org/571112 | 09:26 |
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openstackgerrit | hyunsik Yang proposed openstack/nova master: support pxe boot between the VM https://review.openstack.org/570685 | 09:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/queens: Avoid unnecessary joins in HostManager._get_instances_by_host https://review.openstack.org/570083 | 10:00 |
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openstackgerrit | zhaodan7597 proposed openstack/nova master: Unable to delete volume when a vmware instance bfv is failed. https://review.openstack.org/571112 | 10:01 |
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openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova master: pci: don't consider case when match tags specs https://review.openstack.org/565808 | 10:34 |
openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: configure trust mode for vfs https://review.openstack.org/458514 | 10:34 |
openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: add vf_trusted field for network metadata https://review.openstack.org/566343 | 10:34 |
openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova master: metadata: add vf_trusted field to device metadata https://review.openstack.org/566344 | 10:34 |
openstackgerrit | sahid proposed openstack/nova master: network: update pci request spec to handle trusted tags https://review.openstack.org/458820 | 10:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Change the anti-affinity Filter to adapt to new policy https://review.openstack.org/571166 | 10:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/pike: Document how to disable notifications https://review.openstack.org/563254 | 10:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy to InstanceGroup object and api models. https://review.openstack.org/563375 | 11:03 |
openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Add policy field to ServerGroup notification object https://review.openstack.org/563401 | 11:03 |
openstackgerrit | Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova master: Change the anti-affinity Filter to adapt to new policy https://review.openstack.org/571166 | 11:03 |
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nguyenhai_ | hi guys, how can I enable again nova-compute after it is disable by "Auto-disabled due to 10 build failures" | 11:47 |
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Tahvok | Hey guys! On Ocata here. I've enable auto-convergence on all my nova computes, and since then, doing a live migration will shutdown the instance and start it on the destination node | 12:04 |
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Tahvok | I'm pretty sure that's not what should be happening. How should I investigate such issue? | 12:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Remove mox in tests/unit/api/openstack/compute https://review.openstack.org/566528 | 12:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Set scope for remaining placement policy rules https://review.openstack.org/571201 | 13:22 |
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openstackgerrit | hyunsik Yang proposed openstack/nova master: support pxe boot between the VM https://review.openstack.org/570685 | 13:25 |
stephenfin | bauzas: Friendly reminder to take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/540887/, if you can :) | 13:25 |
stephenfin | Also, no API meeting today? | 13:25 |
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bauzas | stephenfin: LOL | 13:26 |
bauzas | stephenfin: I should give you a t-shirt saying 'I love RST' | 13:26 |
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stephenfin | bauzas: And I would wear that t-shirt :) | 13:27 |
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efried | stephenfin: Does :program: render the same as ``double backticks`` ? (It appears to under sphinx build, anyway.) | 13:31 |
efried | Just wondering why that was used vs using double backticks. | 13:31 |
stephenfin | efried: Sure does, but it also has the benefits of rendering in the glossary | 13:31 |
stephenfin | Which we currently ignore :( | 13:31 |
efried | oh, a glossary... | 13:31 |
stephenfin | But I'm planning to fix that | 13:32 |
efried | as in we don't build the glossary? | 13:32 |
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stephenfin | We do but we don't include it anywhere, to the best of my knowledge | 13:33 |
efried | Looking forward to seeing what that looks like. And wondering how e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/540887/3/doc/source/cli/nova-rootwrap.rst@42 will fold into it. | 13:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: doc: Don't use single backticks in man pages https://review.openstack.org/540887 | 13:41 |
stephenfin | bauzas: Ta! | 13:43 |
stephenfin | That was a fast merge. Guess they fixed that ignore-files rule thing for zuul.conf | 13:44 |
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bauzas | stephenfin: you know my opinion on docs reviews | 13:45 |
bauzas | efried: have you seen my thread on upgrade concerns for n-rp ? | 13:45 |
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bauzas | probably only VGPU resource class is impacted, but I guess the upgrade concern can be there for any RC once we work on NUMA | 13:46 |
bauzas | at least VCPU and MEMORY_MB | 13:46 |
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bhagyashris | efried: Hi, | 13:49 |
bhagyashris | efried: I am still struggling to write the that functional test case as per our discussion I have made the FakeLibvirtDriver class as *subclass* of LibvirtDriver but still i am gertting the issue as File "nova/virt/fake.py", line 754, in __init__ | 13:51 |
bhagyashris | super(FakeLibvirtDriver, self).__init__(virtapi, read_only) | 13:51 |
bhagyashris | File "nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py", line 314, in __init__ | 13:51 |
bhagyashris | libvirt = importutils.import_module('libvirt') | 13:51 |
bhagyashris | File "/opt/stack/nova/.tox/functional/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/oslo_utils/importutils.py", line 73, in import_module | 13:51 |
bhagyashris | __import__(import_str) | 13:51 |
bhagyashris | ImportError: No module named libvirt | 13:51 |
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jichen | hi dansmith sorry to disturb , could you please help to approve this spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562154/ as it's mostly address the questions in the ML? | 13:55 |
bhagyashris | efried: I have moved the same functional test case under the https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/functional/libvirt/test_rt_servers.py#L27 but there at the time of start of compute service it's not creating the compute node resource provider in placement db | 13:55 |
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dansmith | jichen: I will leave that to someone else, but I'm replying to your question on the ML right now | 13:56 |
jichen | dansmith: ok, then I will ask someone else to review and approve it , as it got some +1 and one +2 already | 13:57 |
dansmith | ack | 13:57 |
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jichen | dansmith: and could you please check this -2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523387/ ? it's been reviewed by some core and non-cores, will there be some criteria to remove the -2 so I can get more core to help (efried has reviewed the patch and it's dependency patches previously thoroughly) | 13:59 |
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dansmith | jichen: that -2 is just to hold the base patch until that patch and the rest have +2+W on them so we don't land a driver with no function | 14:00 |
dansmith | jichen: so yes, I'll drop that procedural -2 when the approvals are stacked up behind it | 14:00 |
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dansmith | I said that on the patch, so it shouldn't be preventing anyone from reviewing it | 14:00 |
jichen | dansmith: ok, I will get more people to review and have +2 +w on them then ping you later, thanks a lot | 14:00 |
dansmith | yep | 14:00 |
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mriedem | sahid: some comments in your neutron docs patch for trusted vf https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571167/ | 14:05 |
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mriedem | dansmith: just noticed this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570685/ above, but wasn't there something similar that bnemec did for tripleo? | 14:06 |
dansmith | I think he proposed something | 14:07 |
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bhagyashris | kashyap: any idea about ^ | 14:08 |
kashyap | bhagyashris: Sorry, which one? | 14:09 |
openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Don't overwrite binding-profile https://review.openstack.org/563501 | 14:11 |
mriedem | so something that's been bothering me about the FFU sessions which i don't think anyone has brought up, | 14:11 |
bhagyashris | kashyap: actually i have written functional test here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560459/11/nova/tests/functional/test_servers.py the patch is having libvirt related changes but in the functional test case i have not initialized the actual libvirt driver | 14:12 |
mriedem | besides just saying, the config options churn a lot, | 14:12 |
mriedem | is that for the upgrade support tag, we can't drop config options within a release, but we can across boundaries, | 14:12 |
mriedem | which includes dropping support for deprecated config option names, | 14:12 |
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mriedem | sometimes we leave those deprecated config option aliases around for much more than 1 release, like pci_passthrough_whitelist and the scheduler_default_filters | 14:13 |
bhagyashris | kashyap: so as per the review comments I am trying to initialized the actual libvirt driver so that the change in code will be tested but i am facing some issues | 14:13 |
mriedem | i'm kind of surprised the FFU folk haven't pushed for config option drop/renames to last more than 1 release | 14:13 |
mriedem | lyarwood: have you heard anything like ^ in your FFU travels? | 14:13 |
kashyap | bhagyashris: If you don't mind, I'm in the middle of something. This requires me to see all the context, will get to it tonight. | 14:14 |
bhagyashris | kashyap: ok np but i am not sure will be present because i am working in IST time zone so here it's almost EOD | 14:15 |
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mriedem | e.g. pci_passthrough_whitelist was deprecated in ocata https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356604/ and renamed to [pci]/passthrough_whitelist, certainly that's a fair enough amount of time to drop the old deprecated name | 14:15 |
kashyap | bhagyashris: I'll comment on the review tomm. I need to be AFK soon | 14:15 |
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bhagyashris | kashyap: ok thank you :) | 14:16 |
* lyarwood reads | 14:17 | |
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lyarwood | mriedem: yeah some ops/diy folks have asked for that but we (TripleO) don't need it, heat/puppet takes care of everything for us under the covers. | 14:18 |
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mriedem | i imagine the pain is really just needing to read through the release notes to see which config options are deprecated/dropped each release | 14:20 |
mriedem | and digesting that across all projects per release you're FFing through | 14:20 |
lyarwood | mriedem: yeah, something this group is trying to address for ops/diy folks AFAIK - https://www.openstack.org/videos/sydney-2017/making-fast-forward-upgrade-openstack-possible-with-configuration-mapping-tool | 14:23 |
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lyarwood | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526314/ maybe? | 14:25 |
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mriedem | yup i heard about that for the first time at the summit | 14:31 |
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efried | bhagyashris: Looks like the libvirt library isn't a [test-]requirement. If you install it into your functional venv, you should be able to get around that import error. | 14:38 |
openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: mirror nova host aggregate members to placement https://review.openstack.org/553597 | 14:39 |
mriedem | jaypipes: figured out massimo's cold migrate issue in the ML | 14:39 |
efried | bhagyashris: As for the second thing, not sure I can help without seeing the code. Can you upload your patch set? | 14:39 |
bhagyashris | efried: here is my second approach test case http://paste.openstack.org/show/722352/ | 14:41 |
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bhagyashris | efried: under /nova/tests/functional/libvirt/test_rt_servers.py | 14:42 |
jaypipes | mriedem: I saw that. :) | 14:42 |
openstackgerrit | Kashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Remove usage of migrateToURI{2} APIs https://review.openstack.org/567258 | 14:43 |
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bhagyashris | efried: can you help me how i should install libvirt library in my functional venv | 14:43 |
efried | bhagyashris: Are you still getting that import error? | 14:43 |
stephenfin | bhagyashris: IIRC, you need to install the libvirt and python-libvirt packages using your package manager (apt, dnf, yum...) | 14:44 |
efried | bhagyashris: You would do it like this: | 14:45 |
efried | bash # enter a new subshell | 14:45 |
efried | source .tox/functional/bin/activate # enter the `functional` venv | 14:45 |
efried | pip install libvirt # install the lib into the venv | 14:45 |
efried | exit # leave the venv by leaving the subshell | 14:45 |
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efried | stephenfin: Oh, they're apt, not pip? | 14:45 |
openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add 'numa-aware-vswitches' spec https://review.openstack.org/541290 | 14:45 |
efried | bhagyashris: Listen to stephenfin, not me. He would know better. | 14:45 |
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stephenfin | efried: I think so, yeah. It's installed by default on Fedora, anyway | 14:46 |
dansmith | bhagyashris: what stephenfin said | 14:46 |
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efried | stephenfin: If you're in a helpful mood, would you take a look at bhagyashris's paste above? What we're going for here is a functional test setup that uses the actual libvirt driver as much as possible, so that the compute node RP is created in placement, and update_provider_tree gets called by the RT on compute startup and periodics. | 14:47 |
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mriedem | all of this request spec hydration code just needs to be burned out with acid/fire; i've had a todo on my list for awhile to actually do that, but... | 14:48 |
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efried | and I don't know from libvirt, so don't really have a concept of how/where stuff needs to be mocked or whatever. | 14:48 |
stephenfin | efried: I thought functional tests were supposed to use fakelibvirt everywhere? | 14:48 |
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stephenfin | i.e. you're testing everything in nova but nothing outside it, if possible. Integration tests (Tempest) are for testing the whole system | 14:49 |
efried | stephenfin: You mean nova.tests.unit.virt.libvirt.fakelibvirt.FakeLibvirtFixture ? | 14:49 |
stephenfin | Yup | 14:49 |
sahid | dansmith: what was the agreement regarding incrementing objects version for os-vif? | 14:49 |
stephenfin | Wait, lemme double check | 14:49 |
sahid | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570959/1/os_vif/objects/vif.py | 14:49 |
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stephenfin | efried: See nova/tests/functional/libvirt/test_numa_servers.py | 14:50 |
dansmith | sahid: what do you mean? that patch looks correct to me (wrt the version) | 14:50 |
dansmith | sahid: if it's an os-vif-specific thing, then I guess ask jaypipes | 14:51 |
sahid | dansmith: no it's not it's really about objects verion. I think you did not want that we incrmeent the version because that is not going to be shared by rpc | 14:51 |
sahid | or something like that, no? | 14:51 |
sahid | at least it's not right now | 14:52 |
openstackgerrit | Elod Illes proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: placement: Fix HTTP error generation https://review.openstack.org/571218 | 14:52 |
mriedem | i thought we tried to follow the normal object versioning in os-vif even if it's not going over the wire yet | 14:52 |
dansmith | sahid: but it could be serialized somewhere else at some point, like between neutron and nova | 14:52 |
dansmith | mriedem: right, I'm not sure why not, but maybe I'm missing something | 14:52 |
sahid | mriedem, dansmith ok so let's do that, seems reasonable yes | 14:53 |
stephenfin | mriedem, dansmith: Reworked the numa-aware-vswitch spec per our discussion in Vancouver. Lemme know if I missed anything | 14:53 |
stephenfin | Will start reworking the patches themselves shortly | 14:53 |
bhagyashris | efried, stephenfin: thanks checking for the same. | 14:53 |
mriedem | stephenfin: ok thanks, | 14:54 |
mriedem | got a couple of patches ahead of me yet | 14:54 |
stephenfin | ack | 14:54 |
dansmith | stephenfin: cool. given the complexity here, I think it probably makes sense to evaluate the spec and the code somewhat in parallel | 14:54 |
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stephenfin | dansmith: Just to make sure, there isn't a deadline I need to wary of, in that case? | 14:55 |
dansmith | oh, maybe | 14:55 |
stephenfin | I'm also nervous of forgetting our learnings about not solving everything in the spec | 14:55 |
stephenfin | I think the code that I already have proves out the idea. Now I just need to shuffle about where I'm storing stuff | 14:56 |
stephenfin | (also, no spec = no runway slot) | 14:56 |
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bauzas | gentle reminder for folks that the spec about multiple vGPU types has been updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557065/ | 15:01 |
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bauzas | jaypipes: dansmith: ^ | 15:01 |
mriedem | stephenfin: spec freeze is june 7 | 15:02 |
mriedem | so you've got about a week | 15:02 |
stephenfin | to...? | 15:02 |
mriedem | get the spec approved | 15:02 |
stephenfin | That's in your hands then, I guess? I'll work on updating the code in the interim | 15:03 |
mriedem | probably not a bad idea to do another spec review sprint/flush in the coming week to get anything we want into rocky through before spec freeze | 15:03 |
mriedem | my volume multiattach enhancement spec has been waiting too | 15:03 |
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bauzas | mriedem: you can review this easy spec for just a conf opt https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557065/ | 15:04 |
mriedem | i can add it to the queue | 15:05 |
cfriesen | mriedem: what are your thoughts on getting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/465787/ merged? | 15:05 |
bauzas | mriedem: fair enough | 15:05 |
cfriesen | mriedem: I guess you've got a todo in there still | 15:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Vishakha Agarwal proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: No requirement of –all-tenants while listing servers https://review.openstack.org/569090 | 15:05 |
stephenfin | mriedem: I don't know how much use I'd be reviewing that. I've only reviewed patches for that stuff because ildikov wouldn't stop bugging me :) I can try though | 15:05 |
bauzas | mriedem: stephenfin: FWIW, I'm tempted to punt https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552924/ from Rocky and defer to Stein | 15:06 |
bauzas | jaypipes: ^ | 15:06 |
bauzas | because nested RPs is still in early bits, and because I shit have no time to further work on implementing it for Rocky anyway | 15:06 |
bauzas | so I'll work on providing a new rev' of course, but not prioritary | 15:06 |
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stephenfin | bauzas: Wait, how does that compare with jaypipes' spec? | 15:07 |
ildikov | stephenfin: I can bug you again if that helps :) | 15:07 |
jaypipes | bauzas: I have a feeling tetsuro will have made significant progress on much of that in Rocky. | 15:07 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: the cpu-resources spec is about dedicated cores, not NUMA. | 15:07 |
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jaypipes | dedicated and shared cores. | 15:07 |
mriedem | cfriesen: i would like to see it merged, so i don't have thoughts on my own patch :) | 15:07 |
mriedem | cfriesen: you should ask other cores | 15:07 |
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bauzas | jaypipes: I looked at tetsuro's patches and those are still under review, right? | 15:07 |
jaypipes | bauzas: of course, yes | 15:07 |
bauzas | so, it's in my pipe | 15:08 |
mriedem | cfriesen: just throw it in the starlingx mega patch-o-doom and it will get reviews from at&t for sure! | 15:08 |
stephenfin | jaypipes: But you're using NUMA, no? | 15:08 |
jaypipes | bauzas: not just tetsuro, though. efried and Citrix guys are pushing ahead. | 15:08 |
bauzas | but my point is, nested resource providers is just incepted, and possibly vGPUs are the first usecases that'll use those | 15:08 |
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mriedem | cfriesen: the todo is for future refactor | 15:08 |
stephenfin | jaypipes: e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555081/10/specs/rocky/approved/cpu-resources.rst@217 | 15:08 |
bauzas | jaypipes: I'm working on that too, remember | 15:08 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: that latest revision I tried to remove as much ass possible any mentions of NUMA in so much as extra specs or anything about the NUMATopologyFilter. | 15:08 |
mriedem | cfriesen: if i meant to hold up the patch on the todo, i would have wip'ed it | 15:08 |
cfriesen | mriedem: the plan is to submit individual small patches... Actually, we're already using your patch so it's already in the list. | 15:09 |
bauzas | jaypipes: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-May/130783.html | 15:09 |
mriedem | cfriesen: heh i know | 15:09 |
cfriesen | mriedem: yeah, I caught that on re-read | 15:09 |
bauzas | jaypipes: you possibly missed it | 15:09 |
jaypipes | bauzas: I'm not holding up progress on n-r-p's various efforts ongoing. | 15:09 |
mriedem | cfriesen: i just need to stab the starlingx thing at every opportunity | 15:09 |
jangutter | sahid: Apologies for side-tracking, but I've got a question regarding the thorny issue of multiqueue and os-vif, if you have a few seconds. | 15:09 |
cfriesen | mriedem: bring it on, I can take it | 15:09 |
jaypipes | bauzas: I didn't miss it. just haven't had a chance to go through it. | 15:09 |
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jaypipes | bauzas: will do today. | 15:09 |
bauzas | ack, thanks | 15:09 |
jaypipes | np | 15:09 |
mriedem | cfriesen: also, poutine, wtf?! | 15:10 |
bauzas | because I'm just litterally working on the implementation | 15:10 |
cfriesen | mriedem: good poutine is awesome. crappy poutine sucks | 15:10 |
stephenfin | jaypipes: I'm guessing you can't ignore NUMA completely though, if you want to support use case 4 and the likes? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555081/10/specs/rocky/approved/cpu-resources.rst@425 | 15:10 |
bauzas | jaypipes: and I'm hold until we get consensus on the right approach | 15:10 |
bauzas | jaypipes: and FWIW, naichuan's implementation for Xen is impacted too | 15:10 |
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jaypipes | stephenfin: no, I specifically *don't* want to include the realtime extra specs or any of the numa_nodes/numa_cells goo. | 15:11 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: because the purpose of that spec is to handle requests for dedicated and shared CPU resources. nothing to do with NUMA really. | 15:12 |
sahid | jangutter: i imagine what you are going to do it's add in nova a new condition for vif detail vrouter, which will enable the multiqueue=True | 15:12 |
mriedem | stephenfin: wasn't trying to bug you for reviews on my spec, just saying i'm in the same boat | 15:12 |
sahid | that under the section vhostuser | 15:12 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: and I'm deliberately trying to not bring in the awful coupling of NUMATopology and InstanceNUMATopology and the horrible extra specs that serve to construct that mess. | 15:12 |
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mriedem | stephenfin: we can happily drown together | 15:12 |
mriedem | you can be leo | 15:12 |
mriedem | i'll be kate | 15:12 |
mriedem | / who didn't drown / | 15:12 |
jaypipes | mriedem: wow, how chivalrous of you :P | 15:12 |
jangutter | sahid: actually, the idea is to migrate the 'vrouter' vif which is not vhostuser... | 15:13 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova-specs master: Libvirt file backed memory https://review.openstack.org/563704 | 15:13 |
stephenfin | jaypipes: I've missed something so. I thought requesting 'resources1:PCPU=8 resources2:PCPU=8 group_policy=isolate' means host NUMA topology would need to be accounted for | 15:13 |
jangutter | sahid: I did some checking, and it looks like multiqueue is an instance-wide setting, not a vif-specific one. | 15:13 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: no. it has nothing explicitly to do with NUMA. that just means "I need 2 groups of 8 dedicated CPU resources. they need to be provided by two distinct resource providers" | 15:14 |
jangutter | sahid: ref: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/vif.py#L708 | 15:14 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: the fact that the compute node resource provider might be a parent to two other child providers that *represent* different sockets or NUMA cells is really not relevant to the request that two different providers of dedicated CPU supply the requested resource groups. | 15:15 |
sahid | jangutter: i'm not sure i understand what you want do? | 15:16 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: in other words, if some non-NUMA devices *happened* to expose PCPU inventory under a provider tree, they would meet the requirements... | 15:16 |
bauzas | jaypipes: stephenfin: just a point, we could have the same upgrade impact with VCPU resources being in child RPs than the one I described with http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-May/130783.html | 15:16 |
stephenfin | jaypipes: Practically speaking so, requesting 'resources1:PCPU=8 resources2:PCPU=8 group_policy=isolate' will always fail until NUMA is modelled in placement? | 15:16 |
stephenfin | Ah, gotcha | 15:16 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: again, we are trying desperately to free ourselves of the NUMA coupling that has plagued all of this for years. | 15:16 |
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jangutter | sahid: vrouter kernel mode plugging needs to create a tap with multiqueue enabled, if libvirt starts the VM up looking for it. | 15:17 |
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stephenfin | jaypipes: But we're still coupled, no? I mean, we're going to need NUMA for the above request to work | 15:17 |
bhagyashris | efried: any suggestion about second approach | 15:17 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: I'm trying my best to treat NUMA as just the model of distances to various memory (and memory page) caches to a processor/bus, instead of coupling all that mess with CPU pinning. | 15:17 |
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jangutter | sahid: the VIFGeneric portion can set the libvirt config correctly for multiqueue, but, it looks like it's going to be difficult to pass "multiqueue" on a per-vif basis without modding large portions of the os-vif plugging code. | 15:18 |
sahid | jangutter: ok so you plugin needs to know whether multiqueue is enable, which is via the os-vif object nova is filling then passing the the os-vif plugin | 15:18 |
openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add osprofiler config options to generated reference https://review.openstack.org/571225 | 15:18 |
jangutter | sahid: yep, so, either we can pass "multiqueue=True" via the vif os-vif object, or via the instance os-vif object. | 15:18 |
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bauzas | jaypipes: unfortunately from what I understood from operators, pinning is there because NUMA affinity misses for PCI devices | 15:19 |
bauzas | jaypipes: so both are somehow related | 15:20 |
stephenfin | jaypipes: To be clear though, use case 4 in that spec cannot be achieved with modelling NUMA in placement, right? | 15:20 |
jangutter | sahid: the trick is, passing it via the VIF looks very tricky. A lot of code has to be added there, since, paradoxically, the choice whether to enable multiqueue depends on the instance and flavor settings, not VIF settings. | 15:20 |
stephenfin | jaypipes: Use case 4 = https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555081/10/specs/rocky/approved/cpu-resources.rst@425 | 15:20 |
openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add osprofiler config options to generated reference https://review.openstack.org/571225 | 15:20 |
bauzas | jaypipes: in terms of priority, I'd consider NUMA placement and NUMA affinity be prioritary to CPU pinning, because folks care more about proximity and throughput than real placement decisions | 15:21 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: doc: Start using openstackdoctheme's extlink extension https://review.openstack.org/540888 | 15:21 |
sahid | jangutter: ok i see, I could see it live in instance actually | 15:21 |
bauzas | CPU pinning is just a hack | 15:21 |
stephenfin | Hurrah! The extlink patch merged at last | 15:21 |
jangutter | sahid: for example, you can spawn an instance asking for multiqueue, but only 1 cpu, and multiqueue will magically disable :-p | 15:21 |
jaypipes | bauzas: I'm referring to the poor software design of coupling the topology objects together with memory pages, usage of instance virtual NUMA topology on a host NUMA topology, and all that. | 15:21 |
bauzas | jaypipes: sure, I understood that point | 15:22 |
stephenfin | bauzas: I think jaypipes is suggesting we can do CPU pinning without _needing_ to think about NUMA affinity. They don't have to be tied | 15:22 |
bauzas | stephenfin: my own take is that CPU pinning isn't required if we go with NUMA affinity | 15:22 |
sahid | jangutter: yes i that is not what you want? | 15:22 |
stephenfin | But anyone that is using this will want to couple them, given the performance implications of not doing so | 15:22 |
stephenfin | bauzas: It isn't currently, no | 15:22 |
jangutter | sahid: That's perfectly acceptable, as long as both sides agree. | 15:22 |
bauzas | stephenfin: I don't disagree with your point :) | 15:23 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: use case 4 can be implemented, sure, but until sockets are modeled as child providers or a compute node parent provider, the scheduler would always return NoValidHosts for a request like use case 4. that clear? | 15:23 |
bauzas | stephenfin: I mean, CPU pinning is tied to NUMA resources because people care of throughput | 15:23 |
stephenfin | jaypipes: Sure, if s/sockets/NUMA nodes/ | 15:23 |
jangutter | sahid: another reason for keeping it as a parameter of the instance... | 15:23 |
stephenfin | because of Cluster-on-Die etc. | 15:23 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: sigh... | 15:23 |
stephenfin | Sorry :) | 15:24 |
jangutter | sahid: thanks, I'll respin. The nova bit is much easier to do with it being part of the instance. | 15:24 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: quick RST doc question for you.. | 15:24 |
stephenfin | Oooh, yay | 15:25 |
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stephenfin | jaypipes: shoot | 15:25 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: how can I make the text of an anchor different between two calling points to that anchor? | 15:25 |
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stephenfin | :ref:`text you want to display <text-of-anchor>` | 15:25 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: you rightfully pointed out that the granular request spec is linked in two places. | 15:25 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: ah.. | 15:25 |
sahid | ok i don't really see why it's reflecting better the state of the instance using multiqueue or not, but i'm do not disagree with you to have that attribute with instance | 15:25 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: ty sir | 15:25 |
sahid | jangutter: please ping me when you send a new version | 15:26 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: and no need for the trailing _ char when using :ref? | 15:27 |
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melwitt | dansmith, mriedem: are we cool to approve this follow up specless blueprint for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/memory-backend-file-discard that depends on the libvirt-file-backed-memory blueprint approved today? | 15:27 |
stephenfin | Nope. :ref:`x` is a Sphinx thing that lets you cross-reference between docs etc., if you need to. `x`_ is plain old rST (docutils) | 15:28 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: ack. and the < > brackets are required, yes? | 15:28 |
dansmith | melwitt: um, not sure why we need that extra blueprint, tbh | 15:28 |
dansmith | we're just waiting for libvirt 4.4.0 and then could tag the tweak to nova against the original blueprint, IMHO | 15:28 |
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stephenfin | jaypipes: If you wish to use a different display text, yes | 15:29 |
mriedem | melwitt: had never seen it, but seems it could be part of the original bp | 15:29 |
dansmith | mriedem: melwitt yeah, it will just be a small tweak to the xml we generate if libvirt is new enough | 15:29 |
melwitt | okay, I saw the link in the review comments on the spec for the original | 15:29 |
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mriedem | we could amend the spec to add it as a separate work item | 15:30 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: hmm, getting a doc error... | 15:30 |
mriedem | i've been meaning to go over the spec anyway | 15:30 |
dansmith | mriedem: it was commented on the spec, just left out because it's not critical and isn't in released libvirt yet | 15:31 |
melwitt | discussed here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563704/8/specs/rocky/approved/libvirt-file-backed-memory.rst@170 | 15:31 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: any ideas? http://paste.openstack.org/show/722356/ | 15:31 |
efried | bhagyashris: Second approach? | 15:32 |
dansmith | a tiny spec revision when it becomes available would be plenty, and/or just an extra patch tagged against the bp | 15:32 |
mriedem | when is libvirt 4.4.0 going to get released? | 15:32 |
mriedem | within the next month or so? | 15:32 |
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stephenfin | jaypipes: Oops. I sent you the wrong way. That's for headers :( | 15:33 |
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melwitt | I was thinking maybe we should just approve the follow on bp since it's already been created? | 15:33 |
stephenfin | jaypipes: Try `foo <bar>`_ | 15:33 |
mriedem | it's just as easy to obsolete the blueprint | 15:34 |
mriedem | if it doesn't happen in rocky, then yeah i'd make it a separate blueprint in stein | 15:34 |
dansmith | mriedem: I dunno, 4.4.0 is out, so the version might not be right | 15:36 |
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stephenfin | jaypipes: Hmm, that doesn't work either. Maybe ignore that one for now. I was sure :ref: would do it | 15:36 |
dansmith | mriedem: but they do monthly releases I think, so should be soon if not now | 15:36 |
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mriedem | just say that kubevirt really needs this like yesterday | 15:37 |
stephenfin | jaypipes: Got it. `foo <bar_>`_ (the underscore after 'bar' is the important bit) | 15:37 |
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jaypipes | stephenfin: bingo, that got it. thx for your help! :) | 15:37 |
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melwitt | this page says libvirt v4.4.0 is unreleased https://libvirt.org/news.html | 15:39 |
dansmith | I found a package for it, hang on | 15:40 |
dansmith | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/4.4.0-121.145 | 15:40 |
dansmith | maybe that's built from master or something | 15:40 |
dansmith | oh danh | 15:40 |
dansmith | that's the kernel, google turned it up instead | 15:40 |
dansmith | so yeah nevermind :D | 15:40 |
melwitt | ah okay. last version was released v4.3.0 (2018-05-02) so if monthly then it will be any day now | 15:41 |
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dansmith | https://imgur.com/a/effQ3Gn | 15:41 |
dansmith | thanks a lot google | 15:41 |
melwitt | you got googled | 15:41 |
dansmith | apparently | 15:41 |
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melwitt | okay, I'll mark the bp as Obsolete with a note that libvirt 4.4.0 is soon and that the addition of the discard feature can be rolled into the original bp | 15:42 |
dansmith | cool | 15:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Chris Friesen proposed openstack/nova master: add parameter docstring for 'params' to libvirt.guest.Guest.migrate() https://review.openstack.org/571236 | 15:43 |
cfriesen | kashyap: ^ | 15:43 |
zcorneli | Works for me. I'll look into what it'll take to add that to the code (particularly the migration segments) | 15:43 |
kashyap | cfriesen: Thanks; will review tomm; heading to my Dutch class :-) | 15:44 |
cfriesen | kashyap: no rush | 15:45 |
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melwitt | zcorneli: cool, thanks. to be clear, it's also fine for sahid to work on it if you want, authors can work together on one blueprint, just link the blueprint in the commit message of the new patches when libvirt 4.4.0 is out | 15:50 |
melwitt | we're just organizing the patches on one blueprint as one feature altogether | 15:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Chris Friesen proposed openstack/nova master: add parameter docstring for 'params' to libvirt.guest.Guest.migrate() https://review.openstack.org/571236 | 15:51 |
sahid | melwitt: ok i saw you comment on the bp as the one from matt, it makes sense to have only one bp yes | 15:52 |
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melwitt | coolness | 15:52 |
sahid | i was not sure if it was something we wanted to do, so i tried to be proactive ;) | 15:53 |
melwitt | yeah, I wasn't sure either, so no worries there :) | 15:53 |
zcorneli | Works for me either way. Definitely agreed on having it all under the one bp. | 15:53 |
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cfriesen | dansmith: any chance you could take a look at mriedem's patch at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/465787/ ? It's a noticeable improvement for instances that have many vifs, we've been using it for a year now. | 16:03 |
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dansmith | cfriesen: I'll add it to my queue, but in the middle of something else atm | 16:04 |
cfriesen | no worries, it's waited this long. :) | 16:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Use instance project/user when creating RequestSpec during resize reschedule https://review.openstack.org/571245 | 16:13 |
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melwitt | I saw that mriedem suggested another spec review day earlier and thought it sounds like a good idea. what does everyone think of a spec review day next tuesday jun 5 ahead of the spec freeze jun 7? | 16:18 |
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mriedem | wfm | 16:21 |
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mriedem | jaypipes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571245/ is part 1 in my multi-part novella about request spec + AggregateMultiTenancyIsolation + cold migrate | 16:26 |
mriedem | "it was a dark and stormy night, and we had an incomplete request spec causing much gastric distress" | 16:27 |
openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Standardize CPU resource tracking https://review.openstack.org/555081 | 16:27 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: ^^ | 16:27 |
jaypipes | mriedem: worst. plotline. ever. | 16:27 |
jaypipes | :P | 16:27 |
mriedem | ha | 16:28 |
stephenfin | jaypipes: Sweet. It's nearly 5:30 and super sunny outside so I'm going to go roll around in the grass or something. I'll tackle that in the morning though | 16:28 |
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stephenfin | jaypipes: In the interim, the NUMA aware vSwitch spec has been updated per comments from dansmith and mriedem (plus gibi). Would appreciate another look over | 16:29 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: rock on. | 16:29 |
jaypipes | stephenfin: will do. | 16:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Zack Cornelius proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor libvirt get_memory_used_mb() https://review.openstack.org/571030 | 16:33 |
openstackgerrit | Zack Cornelius proposed openstack/nova master: Implement file backed memory for instances in libvirt https://review.openstack.org/567876 | 16:33 |
dansmith | mriedem: wassup with this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1675607 | 16:36 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1675607 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "test_list_migrations_in_flavor_resize_situation fails with NoValidHost - AvailabilityZoneFilter returned 0 hosts" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Dan Smith (danms) | 16:36 |
mriedem | dansmith: that i changed the severity | 16:38 |
mriedem | ? | 16:38 |
mriedem | see https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1774205 | 16:38 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1774205 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "AggregateMultiTenancyIsolation uses wrong tenant_id during cold migrate" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 16:38 |
dansmith | mriedem: yeah | 16:38 |
mriedem | the problem that was reported in the ops list was fixed by you via that bug in pike, | 16:38 |
mriedem | but there are still some issues like the patch above, plus i'm going to add a functional test for the AggregateMultiTenancyIsolation scenario in the ops list | 16:39 |
dansmith | oh I see | 16:39 |
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dansmith | okay | 16:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Chris Friesen proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add support for emulated virtual TPM https://review.openstack.org/571111 | 16:44 |
openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: mirror nova host aggregate members to placement https://review.openstack.org/553597 | 16:45 |
jaypipes | efried: ^ | 16:45 |
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dansmith | mriedem: are you intentionally keeping this unified for a backport or something? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/465787/7/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py@2406 | 16:56 |
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dansmith | that does seem a bit like a "if special case, do thing, then bail" hack in the middle of a function | 16:56 |
mriedem | not necessarily for a backport, but to keep the scope of the change down | 16:57 |
mriedem | splitting it out into a separate function means it has to pass back a sentinel to tell the caller what to do | 16:57 |
mriedem | i can do that, i just figured it was easier in a follow up so it doesn't confuse the original fix | 16:58 |
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mriedem | i can never remember if a cold migrate puts the server in VERIFY_RESIZE status | 17:07 |
mriedem | it's all the same code so i assume it does | 17:07 |
dansmith | afaik it does | 17:08 |
melwitt | last time I used it in devstack it does | 17:08 |
mriedem | our api ref doesn't mention any post-conditions on cold migrate | 17:08 |
melwitt | have to confirm or revert the resize after that | 17:08 |
mriedem | so i always have to look | 17:08 |
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mriedem | low-hanging-fruit for anyone that cares https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1774234 | 17:11 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1774234 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "api-ref: cold migrate reference doesn't mention asynchronous post conditions" [Medium,Triaged] | 17:11 |
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melwitt | noyce | 17:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Brianna Poulos proposed openstack/nova master: Add trusted_image_certificates to REST API https://review.openstack.org/486204 | 17:31 |
openstackgerrit | Brianna Poulos proposed openstack/nova master: Add notification support for trusted_certs https://review.openstack.org/563269 | 17:31 |
openstackgerrit | Brianna Poulos proposed openstack/nova master: Add certificate validation docs https://review.openstack.org/560158 | 17:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional test for AggregateMultiTenancyIsolation + migrate https://review.openstack.org/571265 | 17:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional test for AggregateMultiTenancyIsolation + migrate https://review.openstack.org/571265 | 17:46 |
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mdbooth | dansmith: Hey, looking at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1584315 at first glance I think that would affect master | 18:09 |
openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1584315 in openstack-nova "DiskNotFound error during instance resize-confirm after restarting nova compute" [Unspecified,New] - Assigned to nova-maint | 18:09 |
dansmith | mdbooth: if so you should be able to find it in gate logs during a resize, right? | 18:09 |
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mdbooth | dansmith: Depends how long it goes unconfirmed | 18:10 |
mdbooth | But specifically the issue after resize | 18:10 |
mdbooth | Sorry, *restart* of the service | 18:10 |
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mdbooth | It looks like ResourceTracker still initially populates the compute_nodes dict in update_available_resource | 18:11 |
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mdbooth | Which calls driver.get_available_resource() first | 18:11 |
mdbooth | which I think would still fail | 18:11 |
mdbooth | ... so it would never be populated | 18:12 |
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mdbooth | I should.. you know... actually test it :) | 18:12 |
dansmith | if you have to restart the service while something is in resize then we wouldn't hit it in the gate, | 18:12 |
dansmith | but you could write a functional test for it | 18:12 |
mdbooth | That's part 2 of the failure. Part 1 we could potentially see in the gate | 18:13 |
mdbooth | That's the DiskNotFound error | 18:13 |
dansmith | yeah | 18:13 |
mdbooth | If an instance stayed unconfirmed for more than a minute, we should see that | 18:13 |
dansmith | or we got lucky | 18:13 |
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dansmith | mdbooth: mriedem <3's helping people with logstash | 18:14 |
dansmith | mdbooth: http://logs.openstack.org/96/569296/1/check/legacy-tempest-dsvm-neutron-scenario-linuxbridge/518dd97/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt#_May_30_17_38_39_176396 | 18:20 |
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mriedem1 | mdbooth: dansmith: logstash taint gonna help ye | 18:21 |
dansmith | mriedem1: no? | 18:21 |
mriedem1 | because we don't have tests in tempest that wait for periodics to run in the services | 18:21 |
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mriedem1 | the tempest tests would be non-deterministic and likely timeout | 18:21 |
dansmith | mriedem1: right, luck | 18:21 |
mdbooth | Yeah | 18:21 |
dansmith | I found a bunch of cases where it happens | 18:22 |
dansmith | here's another: http://logs.openstack.org/82/566182/5/check/neutron-tempest-ovsfw/30a3077/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt#_May_30_15_33_14_686624 | 18:22 |
mdbooth | What did you type in the query box, btw? | 18:22 |
mriedem1 | i've seen things where we get DiskNotFound races while the RT update periodic runs while we're concurrently deleting a server | 18:22 |
* mdbooth got as far as trying to find out which manual to read :) | 18:22 | |
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dansmith | mdbooth: message:"DiskNotFound" | 18:22 |
mriedem1 | dansmith: yup same call stack i was thinking of | 18:23 |
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dansmith | mriedem1: sounds like if you restart the service in that scenario, you get really screwed | 18:23 |
dansmith | anyway, mdbooth is going to fix it up :) | 18:23 |
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mriedem1 | what we need is HA nova-compute | 18:24 |
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* mdbooth is going to go home, have dinner, and go to Legoland tomorrow | 18:24 | |
* mdbooth will transcribe the BZ into launchpad first, though :) | 18:24 | |
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dansmith | mriedem: mo' computes, mo' pro'lems | 18:24 |
mriedem | this is the recent thing i was thinking of https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/5f16e714f58336344752305f94451e7c7c55742c | 18:25 |
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dansmith | ah, but we shouldn't stop going to the next instance and finishing update_available_resource() | 18:26 |
mriedem | we don't after that patch | 18:26 |
mriedem | depending on the state of the instance | 18:26 |
dansmith | right, but this will happen on resize, before confirm, | 18:26 |
dansmith | which means you will re-raise | 18:26 |
dansmith | since we don't undefine the domain until confirm | 18:26 |
mriedem | sure, i was just handling the race with delete bug i was seeing in the gate all the time | 18:27 |
dansmith | yup | 18:27 |
mriedem | i figured there would be additional scenarios that need to be dealt with | 18:27 |
mriedem | once mdbooth smelt what was dealt | 18:28 |
mdbooth | I don't think that patch will fix this, because it only ignores DiskNotFound if task state is set | 18:30 |
mdbooth | Which it looks like it's not between resize and confirm | 18:30 |
dansmith | mdbooth: rightI just said that :) | 18:30 |
mdbooth | dansmith: Well I wasn't looking! I was reading code. | 18:30 |
dansmith | mdbooth: that patch was for the deleting task state basically | 18:30 |
dansmith | mdbooth: keep up! | 18:30 |
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melwitt | dansmith, mriedem: are we cells meeting today? looks like the CERN peeps aren't around today | 18:50 |
dansmith | oh, I have something on my calendar that covers it up so I wasn't paying attention | 18:51 |
dansmith | so yeah, cancel if we can | 18:51 |
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dansmith | we just talked last week anyway | 18:51 |
melwitt | +1 | 18:51 |
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mriedem | don't need to have a meeting, but tssurya has 2 bug fixes that i'm +2 on which you should probably look at | 18:53 |
melwitt | k | 18:53 |
dansmith | links | 18:53 |
mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/568271/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567878/ | 18:53 |
dansmith | I'll get the second | 18:54 |
dansmith | since online migration | 18:54 |
melwitt | k | 18:54 |
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mriedem | dansmith: we have backported online data migrations to fix bugs before https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408725/ | 19:05 |
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dansmith | okay, probably want to do a special reno with it though right? so people (if paying attention) will know to re-run them | 19:06 |
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mriedem | yeah i think so, | 19:08 |
mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529389/ was similar but not as explicit, | 19:08 |
mriedem | the idea just being, if we can get the fix into the stable branches before people roll up to them, then great, else we tried | 19:09 |
dansmith | sure, that's a fair point | 19:09 |
dansmith | anyway, wasn't saying we couldn't or shouldn't, just that we should highlight it | 19:09 |
mriedem | should we put a simple 'fixes' reno on that patch now before backports? | 19:09 |
mriedem | then we don't need to make it weird on stable | 19:09 |
dansmith | I think a dedicated reno for the backports will make it more clear, right? "If you are applying this update after already being on the current release, you'll need to re-run online migrations" or something | 19:10 |
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mriedem | sure that works for me as well | 19:11 |
dansmith | if people see that it's fixed in the stable they're running, but it's still broken for them and they don't realize they would need to re-run online migrations at a peri-release boundary they might be confused | 19:11 |
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mriedem | i'll push the backport to queens once i get done with reviewing sahid's trusted vf series again | 19:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: configure trust mode for vfs https://review.openstack.org/458514 | 19:19 |
openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: add vf_trusted field for network metadata https://review.openstack.org/566343 | 19:19 |
openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: metadata: add vf_trusted field to device metadata https://review.openstack.org/566344 | 19:19 |
openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: network: update pci request spec to handle trusted tags https://review.openstack.org/458820 | 19:20 |
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efried | jaypipes: Done. mriedem: I'm +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/553597/ now. | 19:44 |
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mriedem | artom: you might want to take a quick run through this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/566344/ | 19:46 |
mriedem | efried: ok | 19:46 |
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mriedem | "Snarklepuss is actually my middle name, not my surname." blows my mind | 19:47 |
mriedem | that's professional snark at a PhD level | 19:47 |
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artom | mriedem, indeed, thanks for motivating me | 19:48 |
artom | That series has been sitting on my review list since forever | 19:48 |
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mriedem | artom: besides that one patch i'm +2 on the rest | 19:49 |
mriedem | artom: if you're so inclined, you could even address my comments in that one and we could get the entire thing +2ed today | 19:49 |
artom | mriedem, not a bad idea, sahid's done for the day anyways | 19:49 |
artom | I don't think he'll mind | 19:50 |
artom | Will we lose all your +2s if I push/rebaes tho? | 19:50 |
mriedem | i've been addressing my own nits to keep it going | 19:50 |
mriedem | so yeah he won't mind | 19:50 |
mriedem | no | 19:50 |
artom | "rebaes" | 19:50 |
mriedem | if you rebase like you spell, we might have problems | 19:50 |
artom | When you come back to your bae | 19:50 |
tssurya | mriedem, dansmith: thanks for the reviews, I just got back from a (2 weeks long) vacation and also don't have anything for the meeting. Will catch up on the summit stuff from tomorrow. | 19:51 |
dansmith | tssurya: cool | 19:51 |
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mriedem | tssurya: rest assured we talked you up big time to belmiro and tim in vancouver | 19:51 |
tssurya | mriedem: haha thanks a ton!! | 19:51 |
mriedem | artom: just: git review -d 458820 && git rebase -i HEAD~2 | 19:52 |
mriedem | fix the one, then git rebase --continue && git review -R -y | 19:52 |
artom | Ah, yeah, rebasing on the one below it instead of master isn't a bad idea | 19:53 |
artom | Tiny bit patronizing tho ;) | 19:53 |
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mriedem | right don't rebase on master | 19:54 |
mriedem | that makes the diffs between patches hard to follow | 19:54 |
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mriedem | i only rebase on master if i have a merge conflict | 19:54 |
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artom | At some point, someone somewhere will make a diff of diffs tool | 19:54 |
artom | I remember Diana talking about it before she left Red hat | 19:55 |
dansmith | git review can do that for ou | 19:55 |
mriedem | tonyb probably already has one | 19:55 |
artom | dansmith, yeah? Will need to look into that | 19:55 |
dansmith | git review -m XXX,4,5 | 19:55 |
mriedem | i'm currently explaining the difference, over text message, between bratwurst, kielbasa and summer sausage | 19:56 |
mriedem | and can't tell if it's some cruel joke | 19:56 |
dansmith | git review can't do that | 19:56 |
dansmith | git review will do anything for love, but it won't ... doo... thaaat. | 19:56 |
mriedem | git review --sausage-index | 19:56 |
dansmith | hah | 19:56 |
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dansmith | I think you just did | 19:57 |
artom | So meta | 19:57 |
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artom | mriedem, so is 'vf_trusted' always going to show in device metadata from now on? And set to True/False? | 20:01 |
artom | Or it'll only appear if the VF is trusted? | 20:01 |
artom | (Yeah, I could read, but... :/ ) | 20:01 |
mriedem | he's always putting it in, | 20:01 |
mriedem | default to False for old devices, which is correct | 20:01 |
mriedem | the new field shows up if the requested version on the metadata api is new enough | 20:02 |
artom | I'm cool with whatever, just wanted to be sure | 20:02 |
mriedem | i tend to like adding new fields like we do in the compute rest api, which is we add the new field always, we don't expose it conditionally based on it's value | 20:02 |
dansmith | definitely | 20:02 |
dansmith | not all languages have a __contains__ type operator, which makes checking for the presence before the value annoying | 20:03 |
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mriedem | efried: jaypipes: +W on the mirror patch | 20:09 |
efried | süsse | 20:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Skip ServerShowV254Test.test_rebuild_server in cells v1 job https://review.openstack.org/569454 | 20:18 |
artom | mriedem, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/566344/7/nova/tests/unit/test_metadata.py@244 | 20:21 |
artom | we need to include it though, no? We're asserting that the metadata will be equal to those dicts we define, so we need to add vf_trusted=False because we expect the code to generate that | 20:22 |
mriedem | oh is that the thing we're asserting against in the response? | 20:23 |
mriedem | if so, then sure | 20:23 |
mriedem | it wasn't obvious | 20:23 |
artom | Yeah, it's giving me a headache too | 20:24 |
mriedem | without reading it yet, is it fair to say the ML thread on review nit picking has itself succumbed to nit picking? | 20:24 |
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artom | Duh | 20:25 |
artom | Really accessible topic, easy visibility points | 20:25 |
artom | Even *I* contributed | 20:25 |
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artom | mriedem, need to relocate home (via daycare) will try to finish the metadata thing tonight | 20:45 |
artom | You east or west coast? | 20:45 |
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artom | (Locality-wise, not rap) | 20:45 |
artom | Though I guess we already have your +2, it's jaypipes or whoever else we need to care about | 20:45 |
jaypipes | artom: hmm? | 20:46 |
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artom | jaypipes, oh, apologies, for some reason I was sure mriedem roped you into reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/sriov-trusted-vfs+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 20:47 |
artom | He's +2 except for 1 patch with nits | 20:47 |
artom | Which I'm trying to fix | 20:47 |
mriedem | artom: MN | 20:47 |
mriedem | no coast | 20:47 |
jaypipes | artom: ok. can try tomorrow morning (there's a bunch of stuff ahead of that right now) | 20:47 |
artom | jaypipes, heh, it wasn't a request, but thank you! | 20:48 |
mriedem | we can throw it in the runways queue | 20:48 |
mriedem | sahid should have already done that anyway | 20:48 |
mriedem | i'll add it | 20:48 |
mriedem | artom: east coast rap-wise | 20:48 |
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jaypipes | mriedem: definitely west coast. | 20:49 |
artom | mriedem, ok, you have an hour or so on me in terms of time left in day, you might still be around to +2 it if I succeed in making those damn tests pass | 20:49 |
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mriedem | dansmith: before Kevin_Zheng goes off and adds some backoff looping call logic here, you might want to make sure we're not missing something on the problem for which he's trying to account https://review.openstack.org/#/c/568542/1/nova/compute/manager.py@6222 | 21:12 |
mriedem | basically a race window during abort of a live migration | 21:13 |
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mriedem | hmm, also, on surya's patch, she already has a release note https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567878/5/releasenotes/notes/migration-tool-to-populate-inst.avz-29fed2fe57a9764d.yaml | 21:26 |
mriedem | so i'm not sure what to add to that in the backport | 21:26 |
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dansmith | mriedem: right which is why I suggested a new one | 21:27 |
dansmith | mriedem: commented on that live migration abort thing | 21:28 |
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dansmith | I think proper ordering will make that mostly unracy for our purposes without a polling loop | 21:28 |
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mriedem | dansmith: alright this is what i had added, but it overlaps pretty heavily http://paste.openstack.org/show/722381/ | 21:35 |
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dansmith | mriedem: I just wanted something that indicates that they have to run them again, if you think what is there now is enough, then that's fine | 21:37 |
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dansmith | I agree your paste adds nothing to what is there, | 21:37 |
dansmith | I was just thinking about calling it out specifically | 21:37 |
dansmith | but it's cool | 21:37 |
dansmith | a couple days ago I was working an internal bug where someone updated the code, reported the fix didn't work | 21:38 |
dansmith | and turns out they didn't even restart nova-compute to get the new code | 21:38 |
dansmith | so maybe I'm overly sensitive at the moment | 21:38 |
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mriedem | alright, i'll remove my extra reno in the backport. i figured that most deployment tools will run nova-manage db sync and the online data migrations during an update as well as a major upgrade, since it shouldn't hurt if there is nothing new, but can hurt if you don't run it and there is | 21:39 |
mriedem | also, thanks for the comments on kevin's patch, makes sense when i read it | 21:40 |
openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Metadata-API fails to retrieve avz for instances created before Pike https://review.openstack.org/571317 | 21:40 |
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dansmith | I don't think they do actuall | 21:41 |
dansmith | fwiw | 21:41 |
dansmith | at least our process for rolling out updates (not upgrades) is basically just yum | 21:42 |
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cfriesen | yeah, we normally wouldn't re-run online data migrations unless it's specifically highlighted. | 21:43 |
cfriesen | previous fixes have generally fixed things up on accessing the data, and the online data migrations fixed up ones that hadn't been accessed "live" | 21:44 |
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mriedem | alright, well, meh | 21:50 |
mriedem | i guess people doing updates can run them if needed, | 21:50 |
mriedem | otherwise people rolling up to those during FFU can get it | 21:50 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Metadata-API fails to retrieve avz for instances created before Pike https://review.openstack.org/567878 | 21:52 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Make nova service-list use scatter-gather routine https://review.openstack.org/568271 | 21:52 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: doc: cleanup API guide about instance faults https://review.openstack.org/560178 | 21:52 |
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melwitt | interesting, looking at a recent fail of a VolumesBackupTest in the ceph job, it looks like if you issue a delete request twice for the same volume, the second one can fail with a 400 for having not allowed volume status http://logs.openstack.org/53/570653/1/check/legacy-tempest-dsvm-full-devstack-plugin-ceph/c5d03e7/logs/screen-c-api.txt.gz#_2018-05-30_04_41_07_095 | 21:54 |
melwitt | anyone seen that before? is that usual? | 21:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Metadata-API fails to retrieve avz for instances created before Pike https://review.openstack.org/571320 | 21:56 |
melwitt | smcginnis ^ | 21:56 |
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mriedem | melwitt: this? http://logs.openstack.org/53/570653/1/check/legacy-tempest-dsvm-full-devstack-plugin-ceph/c5d03e7/logs/screen-c-api.txt.gz#_2018-05-30_04_41_07_306 | 21:57 |
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mriedem | too bad it didn't tell you what the volume status was when it puked | 21:58 |
mriedem | must be 'deleting' or something? | 21:58 |
melwitt | yes. that was a second request to delete the same volume. and yeah, also wish it said, I can only assume it was 'deleting' or the like | 21:58 |
mriedem | is tempest doing the 2nd delete during a cleanup? | 21:59 |
melwitt | I don't yet know why the teardown of the test is trying to delete an already deleted volume | 21:59 |
melwitt | yeah, it's the cleanup step that fails | 21:59 |
mriedem | i.e. first delete is explicit in the test, but not waiting for the volume to actually be gone | 21:59 |
melwitt | that's my guess but haven't confirmed yet | 21:59 |
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mriedem | because most of tempest adds an automatic cleanup if you create the resource in one of the base test methods | 22:00 |
mriedem | so the test likely just needs to wait for the volume to be gone, | 22:00 |
mriedem | then on cleanup, it will handle the 404 and ignore it | 22:00 |
melwitt | ah, got it | 22:00 |
melwitt | hm, none of the tests seem to be doing an explicit delete in the test https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/api/volume/test_volumes_backup.py | 22:01 |
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melwitt | ohhh, wait, this is a cinder in-tree tempest test from ocata, so different than what I just linked | 22:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Expand tests for multiple shared resources case https://review.openstack.org/569637 | 22:09 |
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melwitt | ah, indeed we have redundant cleanups because the test is adding a cleanup and the base class is also adding a cleanup during self.create_volume https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/stable/ocata/cinder/tests/tempest/api/volume/test_volume_backup.py#L77 | 22:17 |
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eandersson | Is numa pinning exposed in any api calls? | 22:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Jan Gutter proposed openstack/nova master: Convert vrouter legacy plugging to os-vif https://review.openstack.org/571325 | 22:21 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Gutter proposed openstack/os-vif master: Add multiqueue field to InstanceInfo https://review.openstack.org/570959 | 22:22 |
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melwitt | eandersson: do you mean the flavor extra specs that show what numa pinning was requested? it will show that in the server detail GET call and recently will also show it via the flavors API as of this recent bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/add-extra-specs-to-flavor-list | 22:22 |
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eandersson | I think case I actually wanted to see the pinning on the compute itself. | 22:24 |
eandersson | For each VM | 22:25 |
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eandersson | We wrote an ansible playbook for this, and checked each host using that, but would have been nice to be able to get that kind of data from the api as well. | 22:26 |
eandersson | (as an admin at least) | 22:26 |
melwitt | I see. I have limited knowledge about it, but maybe cfriesen might know if he's still around today | 22:27 |
eandersson | In this particular case we figured out that most of our hosts had the network interrupt rx queue pinned to a specific core | 22:27 |
eandersson | (well the ones that didn't have multiqueue enabled anyway) | 22:27 |
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mriedem | eandersson: there isn't anything in the server details that say where an instance is pinned | 22:29 |
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mriedem | stephenfin: dansmith: went over the numa aware vswitch spec again, i think it's pretty close, just missed some cleanups and other small details https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541290/ | 22:30 |
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mriedem | eandersson: there isn't anything in the os-hypervisors API either | 22:31 |
eandersson | figured as much, but wanted to double check (as the data is available in the db at least) | 22:31 |
mriedem | NUMA and CPU pinning stuff will eventually be expressed in the placement API | 22:31 |
eandersson | Nice | 22:31 |
mriedem | there used to be an os-pci API added back in juno and removed later in i think pike (or maybe older) | 22:31 |
mriedem | since it never did anything | 22:31 |
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mriedem | eandersson: btw, was it you or someone else from your company that asked about the TypeAffinityFilter being removed during the nova project update session in vancouver? | 22:32 |
mriedem | or just totally coincidental? | 22:32 |
eandersson | One of my guys asked about it, but heard that someone else also asked about it | 22:33 |
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eandersson | as well | 22:33 |
mriedem | i heard someone named their first born "TypeAffinityFilter" they loved it so much | 22:34 |
eandersson | haha | 22:34 |
eandersson | To be fair the version in nova stinks, especially since it's based on uuid | 22:34 |
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mriedem | uuid? the one that was in tree was based on the flavor.id primary key | 22:35 |
mriedem | which is pretty much the reason it was removed | 22:35 |
eandersson | Yea | 22:35 |
eandersson | Our version was always based on name, not id | 22:35 |
mriedem | because i can create flavorid=foo with id=1, delete it and recreate it with the same flavorid but now it's id=2 | 22:35 |
mriedem | and your affinity stuff is all busted | 22:35 |
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mriedem | ok | 22:36 |
mriedem | well, fyi http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2018-May/015277.html | 22:36 |
mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/569247/ will cause a perf penalty on out of tree filters that need to access any fields on HostState.instances values | 22:36 |
mriedem | so if people (ops at large) are needing a type affinity filter, one should probably be proposed upstream | 22:37 |
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eandersson | btw unrelated but was a feature to allow rebuild to move the VM to a new compute? | 22:40 |
eandersson | or even restart (similar to how Amazon does it) | 22:40 |
eandersson | ever discussed? | 22:40 |
eandersson | We are trying to find a strategy to make it easier for our customers when we need to bring a compute down for maintenance | 22:41 |
mriedem | eandersson: that's the evacuate API | 22:42 |
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eandersson | Yea - I guess it's the same thing. | 22:43 |
mriedem | that's after nova-compute is down though | 22:43 |
mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/evacuate.html | 22:43 |
eandersson | Our ideal scenario would be that if we want to do maintenance on compute X, we mark it as "going down in 7 days", and anyone that hits rebuild on their VM on that host gets moved to a new compute | 22:44 |
eandersson | and after 7 days they would just automatically get rebuilt and moved | 22:44 |
mriedem | i think you could build that on top of existing APIs in an external service | 22:44 |
eandersson | Yea - that is our general plan of action for now | 22:45 |
mriedem | you can force a compute service down so new things can't go to it but the existing VMs continue to run | 22:45 |
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mriedem | https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/#update-forced-down | 22:45 |
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mriedem | so you can force it down to evacuate things off it, | 22:45 |
mriedem | or disable it so new things can't go to it | 22:45 |
eandersson | Nice | 22:45 |
mriedem | rebuild to the same host will work while the service is disabled, it won't auto-migrate it | 22:46 |
mriedem | non-admins can only move during things like shelve_offload/unshelve and resize | 22:46 |
mriedem | your external thing could mark the compute as disabled/down, and then after 7 days, trigger a cold migration | 22:47 |
mriedem | or live if you support that | 22:47 |
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mriedem | actually if you disable the compute, shelve all the instances, unshelve them, you get the same thing you're asking for | 22:48 |
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mriedem | with some additional glance snapshot traffic, but otherwise the same as rebuild | 22:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in libvirt/test_driver.py (6) https://review.openstack.org/571330 | 23:20 |
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openstackgerrit | karim proposed openstack/nova master: Handle rebuild of instances with image traits https://review.openstack.org/569498 | 23:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/nova master: Add "must" to automatic names for multiple servers https://review.openstack.org/571335 | 23:59 |
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