Tuesday, 2019-01-22

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/os-vif master: do not always plug ovs ports.  https://review.openstack.org/63182900:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/os-vif master: Cleanup device at the end of 'test_iproute_object_closes_correctly' test  https://review.openstack.org/62911204:55
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Add minimum value in max_concurrent_live_migrations  https://review.openstack.org/63224006:17
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janguttercdent, jaypipes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Philosophers!07:53
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openstackgerritRodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/os-vif master: Import IP implementation modules outside privsep context  https://review.openstack.org/62902509:18
openstackgerritRodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/os-vif master: Add test to check os_vif.internal.command.ip.exists  https://review.openstack.org/63207709:19
jangutterdansmith: remember I threatened some o.vo docs? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63232109:22
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openstackgerritZhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: Per-instance serial number  https://review.openstack.org/61995309:28
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kashyapAnyone else seeing the StringException failures in the 'openstack-tox-lower-constraints' job?10:05
kashyaphttp://logs.openstack.org/80/630980/6/check/openstack-tox-lower-constraints/aba7c59/testr_results.html.gz10:06
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openstackgerritKashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: A few miscellaneous items related to "native TLS"  https://review.openstack.org/63098010:09
openstackgerritKashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Update references to "QEMU-native TLS" document  https://review.openstack.org/63128310:09
kashyapgibi: stephenfin ^ When you get a moment, appreicate if you could re-ACK them.10:10
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bauzasgibi: morning10:14
bauzasgibi: do you remember a bit of how works the affinity groups ?10:14
bauzasgibi: I'm working on an internal bug about this, but I have a specific issue10:14
bauzasgibi: when booting an instance asking for a group, the group UUID is just a hint10:15
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gibikashyap: ack10:20
gibibauzas: yes, the group UUID is just a hint10:20
bauzasgibi: do you remember when we transfrom the hint into some InstanceGroup object ?10:21
gibibauzas: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/f7252b586b4b9f5a098fedfa27715b8f7e662af6/nova/scheduler/utils.py#L90210:22
bauzasgibi: yeah, that's what I remembered but I need to check where we call it10:23
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bauzasanyway, sorry for pinging you10:23
bauzasgibi: thanks btw. for the help on functional tests for the reshape10:23
gibibauzas: yeah, I'm just tracing it backwards from there10:23
bauzasI'm really sorry to be out of upstream for the moment10:23
openstackgerritcaoxufeng proposed openstack/nova master: oslo.config>=6.1.0 which is a dependency of nova requires rfc3986>=1.2.0  https://review.openstack.org/63239110:24
gibibauzas: no worries10:25
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gibibauzas: still not the right spot https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/00b14a233886cbcaccf1576904571a59ca8b6535/nova/compute/api.py#L87610:27
gibibauzas: this is the place https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/00b14a233886cbcaccf1576904571a59ca8b6535/nova/compute/api.py#L118010:28
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gibikashyap: done10:30
kashyapgibi: Thank you very much. :-)10:32
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jaypipesjangutter: ha! that's awesome :)13:04
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jangutterjaypipes: I've got the hardcover, it most definitely is.13:07
jaypipes:)13:07
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sean-k-mooneyjaypipes: hi regarding teh libvirt min version. looking at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LibvirtDistroSupportMatrix#Nova_release_min_version we had planned to set it to somthing in the 3.y.z seriese in stien. do you think setting it to 3.2.0 would be resonable?13:55
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mriedemask kashyap he usually handles that now13:58
mriedemand socializes the plan in the ML13:58
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sean-k-mooneywell i also can avoid the need to increase the minium versions13:59
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kashyapJust finishing up late lunch; be here in 5 min13:59
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jaypipessean-k-mooney: not up to me :) I'm cool with that particular patch, just thought it was worth mentioning that there is no specific MIN_VERSION_XXX for indicating which version is needed for the whole "can set mac to 00:00:00..." ability13:59
sean-k-mooneyjaypipes: just replied inline also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/624842/4/nova/network/linux_utils.py@a7414:01
jaypipessean-k-mooney: ack14:01
sean-k-mooneyi can skip removing the code and it will work14:01
sean-k-mooneywe can do the removal later when we have a suffient min version14:01
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kashyapsean-k-mooney: Hey, so back here.14:04
kashyapsean-k-mooney: To set it to 3.2.0, we need to ensure it is the "LCD"...14:04
kashyapsean-k-mooney: Check out this Nova commit: 489b5f762e2c14:05
kashyapAnd:14:05
kashyapNEXT_MIN_LIBVIRT_VERSION = (4, 0, 0)14:05
kashyapNEXT_MIN_QEMU_VERSION = (2, 11, 0)14:06
kashyapsean-k-mooney: I'm not sure how did you arrive on libvirt 3.2.014:06
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sean-k-mooneyi was askign for stien14:06
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kashyapFor Stein: 28d337b -- Pick next minimum libvirt / QEMU versions for "Stein"14:07
sean-k-mooney3.2.0 is needed to resovle a specific sriov issue but i can avoid the version bump by not cleaning up some code and allowing it to fail14:07
kashyapsean-k-mooney: Okay, can do the version compat check across, and let you know in a bit14:08
kashyapBut it's normally not nice to "deviate from the plan", as we announced it to the mailing list as well14:08
sean-k-mooneytrue but the wiki still states it as a draft and i had no idea it was tracked anywhere else14:09
kashyapsean-k-mooney: So, actually I should bump it right now to:14:10
kashyap+NEXT_MIN_LIBVIRT_VERSION = (3, 0, 0)14:10
kashyap+NEXT_MIN_QEMU_VERSION = (2, 8, 0)14:10
sean-k-mooneykashyap: anyway as i said in my reply to jay here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/624842/4/nova/network/linux_utils.py@a74 its not needed14:10
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Share snapshot image membership with instance owner  https://review.openstack.org/63076914:11
kashyapThanks for the reminder!  I lost this TODO item from my Org-Mode file, damn14:11
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toskyhi all, did anyone notice an issue when attaching volumes on a devstack/python3/bionic environment? (yes, it may be a cinder issue, but the relevant code is in lib/nova)14:12
toskyI proposed a fix in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/632452/14:12
sean-k-mooneytosky: we have been haveing some issue yes but not sure if its related  to that14:14
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mriedemstephenfin: can you push through this simple change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/628205/14:21
mriedemthat will get the approved bp change on top merged14:22
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stephenfinmriedem: I can14:30
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openstackgerritElod Illes proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: De-dupe subnet IDs when calling neutron /subnets API  https://review.openstack.org/63248014:44
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openstackgerritsean mooney proposed openstack/os-vif master: make kuryr-kubernetes-tempest-daemon-octavia non voting  https://review.openstack.org/63248415:19
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openstackgerritsean mooney proposed openstack/os-vif master: make kuryr-kubernetes-tempest-daemon-octavia non voting  https://review.openstack.org/63248415:21
openstackgerritsean mooney proposed openstack/os-vif master: make kuryr-kubernetes-tempest-daemon-octavia non voting  https://review.openstack.org/63248415:23
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sean-k-mooneystephenfin: jaypipes ^ can ye take a look at that. 2 in every 3 ci runs seam to be failing for the k8s job and that is not really a new occurance15:26
sean-k-mooneyi have treatened to do this many times in the past and its finally at the point where it has annoyed me enought to right the patch.15:27
jaypipessean-k-mooney: is "ye" a reference to the fact that I am old(e) English?15:29
sean-k-mooney no its the pluar of you15:30
janguttersean-k-mooney: y'all is singular, all y'all is plural15:31
jaypipessean-k-mooney: I'm not entirely sure what pluar is, but I have left a comment on said patch. :P15:31
jaypipessean-k-mooney: thou are most welcome.15:32
sean-k-mooneyy'all presuablly is a contraction of you all then15:32
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jaypipessean-k-mooney: indeed it is. thine thoughts on the matter be correct.15:33
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sean-k-mooneyye is till common in ireland partly because in irish we do have distinct words for singualr and plural you so we still use the older english word "ye" for the plural form commonly15:34
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jaypipessean-k-mooney: that's interesting, considering there are not distinct words for "three" and "tree". ;)15:35
jaypipesI will never forget ildikov and I trying to find that town of Houth and all the Dubliners looking at us like we were morons for saying "hooth" like "tooth".15:36
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jaypipessean-k-mooney: in any case, I blame stephenfin for all of it.15:37
sean-k-mooneyjaypipes: this might help if you are interested https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiberno-English15:38
jaypipes(apparently stephenfin doesn't have a proper Irish accent, much to my surprise) :)15:38
ildikovjaypipes: Ireland is a fun place :)15:38
jaypipesildikov: it is! especially when you miss your train stop!15:39
ildikovjaypipes: yeah, I o15:39
ildikovwouldn't recommend it :)15:40
jaypipessean-k-mooney, stephenfin: ooooh! on that wikipedia page I've officially found my new favorite Irish word derived from old English: "Eejit".15:41
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sean-k-mooneyeejit is a great word15:42
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sean-k-mooneyusually used to refer a harmless idoit or bafoon or equavlent to the irish Amadán pernounced "om a dawn"15:45
jaypipesAlso, I have gained some new knowledge: Irish lacks words that directly translate as "yes" or "no"15:45
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jangutterjaypipes: That's probably why Nancy Reagan's anti-drug campaign failed there.15:46
mriedemjaypipes: did you sort out that rebuild with double allocation NoValidHost thing? like i said, i'm pretty sure that's been fixed but maybe you don't have the backport15:47
jaypipesmriedem: yup, between yourself and melwitt, found the right patch and am applying it to our ocata downstream this morning. thank you!15:49
jaypipesjangutter: lol!15:49
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janguttersean-k-mooney: my favourite word there is "banjaxed", it's just under my all-time favourite word, "defenestration".15:52
stephenfin`<jaypipes> sean-k-mooney: that's interesting, considering there are not distinct words for "three" and "tree"` :D15:52
janguttersean-k-mooney: The kuryr-kubernetes-tempest-daemon-octavia job is banjaxed, it should be defenestrated.15:53
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Convert port to str when validate console port  https://review.openstack.org/62685315:53
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sean-k-mooneyjangutter: stephenfin jangutter im adding some examples of the k8s jobs issue by the way.15:56
janguttersean-k-mooney: yeah, I've seen a number of them that really should not have been triggered by the os-vif changes.15:56
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jaypipesstephenfin: I see at least one person appreciated my joke :)15:59
sean-k-mooneyjaypipes: i did too :)15:59
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jaypipessean-k-mooney: :)16:01
jaypipessean-k-mooney: well, that makes tree of us, then.16:01
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sean-k-mooneyupdated with 5 differnet issue that have required a recheck in the last week  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/632484/316:05
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sean-k-mooneyhuh the k8s schduler service failed to start on the patch to make it non voting... http://logs.openstack.org/84/632484/3/check/kuryr-kubernetes-tempest-daemon-octavia/4bcca98/job-output.txt.gz#_2019-01-22_15_55_22_39315316:09
mriedemzzzeek: this should unblock the sqla-migrate release https://review.openstack.org/#/c/632470/16:11
zzzeek+2ed16:12
sean-k-mooneyralonsoh: jangutter  by the way if the current recheck of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/629025/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/632077/2 fail can you leave them be until we decide what to do with the k8s job16:15
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janguttersean-k-mooney: yah, not touching 'em.16:15
sean-k-mooneyralonsoh: jangutter im watching them on the zuul status page si ill eiterh rebase or recheck depending on what we decide16:16
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janguttersean-k-mooney: etcd is also not happy: http://logs.openstack.org/84/632484/3/check/kuryr-kubernetes-tempest-daemon-octavia/4bcca98/controller/logs/screen-etcd.txt.gz16:21
sean-k-mooneyjangutter: ya ectd proably is why the scheduler did not start16:22
sean-k-mooneyi check the logs everytime the job failes but i always seam to root cause  it to a setup issue or something unrelated to the patch.16:23
sean-k-mooneydont get me wrong we could break kuryr kubernetese with some change to the ovo but not unit test chagnes16:23
sean-k-mooneyi have a todo to add more non-voting jobs to os-vif which i hope to make voting after stien16:24
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openstackgerritKashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] libvirt: Bump MIN_{LIBVIRT,QEMU}_VERSION for "Stein"  https://review.openstack.org/63250716:33
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kashyap(If anyone wonders why "WIP" (Work In Progress) and why not Workflow -1 — WIP spares people from clicking on the URL when they see it on IRC.)16:35
kashyap(And putting the Workflow-1 will make the change not appear for those who use dashboards.  So using both is good.)16:36
stephenfinmriedem: That has to be a bug with PyPI16:36
stephenfinmriedem: Wait, no. Commented16:36
* stephenfin was referring to the SQLAlchemy Migrate issue16:38
stephenfinmriedem: Is moving from sqlalchemy-migrate to alembic a thing we'd want to do at some point in the future. Have discussed roughly how to do it with zzzeek and can attempt it at some point in the next few months16:39
stephenfin*?16:39
mriedemstephenfin: not in nova probably not16:39
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mriedemthanks for the docs thing16:39
mriedemback in a few hours (funeral)16:39
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sean-k-mooneystephenfin: maybe add it as a train ptg topic. it has been mentioned before i think but i dont think it was ever seen as a high priority in the past16:41
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stephenfinsean-k-mooney: That's why I asked. It came up due to bnemec noting that it was effectively dead and zzzeek saying that alembic was a far more capable replacement16:45
stephenfinsean-k-mooney: Sounds similar to the mox-mock thing though, and I don't want to get involved in another one of those /o\16:46
kashyapCleaning up these unit test excrements after version libvirt / QEMU bump is just a bottomless pit...16:47
kashyap"Endless fun"16:47
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zzzeekmriedem_away: you wouldn't accept the effort by a volunteer even ?16:48
sean-k-mooneystephenfin: we discussed that neutron uses alembic i think and should nova also move to it but it was a non trivial amount of work and madde ffu even harder16:48
zzzeeksean-k-mooney: the placement service was broken off from nova and uses alembic. this was already a mini-migration of former parts of nova from migrate to alembic16:49
sean-k-mooneyso i think we jsut said maybe in the futre but since its not causeing us issue not done "fix" it16:49
sean-k-mooneyzzzeek: i remember cdent and i spoke about that brefily in denver actully16:50
zzzeeksean-k-mooney: nova cant be on sqlalhcemy-migrate forever because I can't keep supporting migrate forever from my side16:50
sean-k-mooneyzzzeek: i think in stien it just was not high enough on our priority list16:50
sean-k-mooneyzzzeek: sure and as a maintainer if that is deperacted we shoudl come up with a transition plan so you dont have too but it would need a spec and need to be a train thing i think16:51
zzzeeksean-k-mooney: im all for it being bottom priority but that made me nervous just now when mriedem_away said it was a "never" thing16:51
zzzeeksean-k-mooney: if you look at what placement did, it's that16:51
sean-k-mooneynova has a lot more legacy stuff to deal with.16:52
sean-k-mooneyzzzeek: as i said its something we should talk about for train.16:54
sean-k-mooneyzzzeek: is sqlalcamy-migrate offially deprecated/unsupproted16:54
zzzeeksean-k-mooney: if nova got off it, it sure would be16:54
zzzeeksean-k-mooney: some other projects too.  keystone cinder not sure if they are still on it16:54
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zzzeeksean-k-mooney: it's "supported" because we have no choice16:55
zzzeeksean-k-mooney: also there are no "legacy" cases that alembic doesn't support from a DB perspective16:55
sean-k-mooneyright which give nova/openstack 2 options. 1 they fork/take over maintance of it 2 the move to something else.16:55
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zzzeeksean-k-mooney: openstack already owns sqlalchemy-migrate16:56
sean-k-mooneyoh ok16:56
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zzzeeksean-k-mooney: I only know what sqlalchemy-migrate even looks like becuase I joined red hat and got assigned to it :)16:57
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sean-k-mooneyah i see.16:57
zzzeekthe deep irony that I end up maintaining a project that I replaced w/ somehting else16:57
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smcginniszzzeek: Cinder is still using it. What should we be switching to?16:58
zzzeeksmcginnis: alembic migrations have superseded sqlalchemy-migrate for many years16:58
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smcginniszzzeek: Ah. I had raised that as a question ~1 year ago and was shot down as too complex to switch and not really needed.16:59
stephenfinkashyap: Oh, that's why it's WIP. Might stick that in the commit message on the next revision, if you're doing this in a piecemeal fashion16:59
sean-k-mooneyzzzeek: its a little technology specific but perhaps it coudl be raise as a cross project goal16:59
zzzeeksmcginnis: yeah it's like I am being too nice by not just breaking compatibility with it or something17:00
smcginnisBut I can raise it again now with this. We have a midcycle coming up that will be a good venue to discuss it.17:00
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zzzeeksmcginnis: im looking for reason to go back to denver in may so if you think I'd be useful send me a ping17:00
sean-k-mooneysmcginnis:  i think that was the same sentime it was discussed with in nova in the past too17:00
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smcginnissean-k-mooney: ++17:01
zzzeeksean-k-mooney: technically, I was supposed to be getting everyone on alembic years ago, that was part of my job duties.  but I get the big wall of "we dont care"17:01
smcginniszzzeek: Since there are a few projects that have not switched, it might be good to have a Forum or PTG session to go over how to migrate.17:01
kashyapstephenfin: Will add that note.  I have a couple of other patches related to it.  Meanwhile, I'm trying to figure out the first unit failure of "testtools.matchers._impl.MismatchError" in the test_get_guest_config.17:02
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zzzeeksmcginnis: yeah I guess you are right17:02
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smcginniszzzeek: We could also try to make it a cycle goal, so having a session to kick that off could really help there.17:03
sean-k-mooneyzzzeek: from a redhat point of view we have an lts every 3 releases so makeing the switch in Train/osp16 would be good form a support perspective on your part17:03
sean-k-mooneyzzzeek: by the way i know you know that :)17:03
zzzeeksmcginnis sean-k-mooney OK....but if I just do a session and then, everyones like OK mike go do it, thats not really going to work for me :)17:04
smcginnisOh come on, we would love it if you did all the work. :D17:04
zzzeeksean-k-mooney: the problem is this is strict technical debt stuff nobody cares17:04
zzzeeksmcginnis: even if I *do* all the work, my reviews get ignored becuase they make everyone nervous17:04
zzzeeksmcginnis: so it's not even doing the work17:05
zzzeekits the huge wall of indifference17:05
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smcginnisIt's a really big wall.17:05
zzzeeksmcginnis: this is why, somehow, when they did placement, enough people on "placement" cared to do the switch, was refreshing to see17:06
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zzzeekbut i think it's important that people who are core to the projet are involved in the work.  nobody trusts me17:06
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smcginnisGood to start socializing the idea now then. And maybe another good reason to try for a session in Denver to make sure folks are aware and understand that this is technical debt that really does need to be addressed.17:07
sean-k-mooneyzzzeek: if you propose patches stephenfin will likely review them and if you talke about why the change is needed and point ot plamcent and other that have done it already people will trust your work17:08
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stephenfin^ this is true17:09
stephenfinWill need a bit of hand holding to avoid "my reviews get ignored becuase they make everyone nervous" though17:09
sean-k-mooneyzzzeek: i can try and review it too but im not a core and i usually avoid the db layer17:09
stephenfinShould probably see if mriedem_away (or anyone) had other objections besides it being more tech debt patches to add to our already bonkers review queue too17:10
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zzzeeksean-k-mooney: the best way I work ont hese things is a core stakeholder gets the major stuff in place, comes to me with it non-working, and I work with them to get it working17:11
zzzeeksean-k-mooney: that's how we did placement, specificalyl getting the oslo test framework running17:11
sean-k-mooneyzzzeek: this would alos be a good topic to start a ml thread fyi17:12
sean-k-mooneyit will allow people that are not here right now to express if they had concurers beyond our backlog of review and to express interest async of this irc converstation17:13
zzzeeksean-k-mooney: yep17:13
zzzeeksean-k-mooney: ive stayed away from this for years b.c. of above mentioned things17:14
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openstackgerritKashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] libvirt: Bump MIN_{LIBVIRT,QEMU}_VERSION for "Stein"  https://review.openstack.org/63250717:18
openstackgerritKashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Drop MIN_LIBVIRT_PARALLELS_SET_ADMIN_PASSWD  https://review.openstack.org/63251417:18
kashyapstephenfin: Now read the "Bump" commit message, hope it's clearer.17:20
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openstackgerritElod Illes proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Fix os-simple-tenant-usage result order  https://review.openstack.org/63251617:22
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efriedsean-k-mooney: Thanks for the tip on openstack.org being a separate account for company affiliation purposes. I had missed that one.18:09
sean-k-mooneyefried: ya i was wondering why i didnt get election emails since i moved18:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Cleanup soft (anti)affinity weight multiplier options  https://review.openstack.org/62820518:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/os-vif master: Import IP implementation modules outside privsep context  https://review.openstack.org/62902519:17
efriedsean-k-mooney: I had a secondary email address in there.19:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/os-vif master: make kuryr-kubernetes-tempest-daemon-octavia non voting  https://review.openstack.org/63248419:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/os-vif master: Add test to check os_vif.internal.command.ip.exists  https://review.openstack.org/63207719:36
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janguttersean-k-mooney, jaypipes: ^^ the sarlacc pit claims another victim.19:50
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jaypipesjangutter: +120:08
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mriedemgibi: i didn't -1 but i'm not sure if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570078/ to reject qos ports on attach is handling the case that a network is provided and nova-compute creates a port on that network and the qos policy is associated that way20:32
openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: ksa auth conf and client for cyborg access  https://review.openstack.org/63124220:36
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Fix ovo compatibility code unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/63123920:53
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openstackgerritPaul-Emile Element proposed openstack/nova master: Add emulated TPM support to Nova  https://review.openstack.org/63136321:02
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: ksa auth conf and client for cyborg access  https://review.openstack.org/63124222:15
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Don't call begin_detaching when detaching volume from shelved vm  https://review.openstack.org/62495922:24
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jaypipesmriedem: any reason this wasn't backported to ocata that I should know about? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/175062322:36
openstackLaunchpad bug 1750623 in OpenStack Compute (nova) pike "rebuild to same host with different image shouldn't check with placement" [Medium,Fix committed] - Assigned to Lee Yarwood (lyarwood)22:36
jaypipesmriedem: I don't see anything specifically about ocata but wondered if you remembered some difficulty getting that onto ocata I should be aware of...22:37
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mriedemjaypipes: ocata is in extended maintenance mode so it was probably just a matter of not doing it unless someone cared22:48
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mriedemi'm not opposed to backporting that22:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Use X-Forwarded-Proto as origin protocol if present  https://review.openstack.org/63110323:12
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Extend NeutronFixture to return port with resource request  https://review.openstack.org/63071923:12
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Add minimum value in max_concurrent_live_migrations  https://review.openstack.org/63224023:31
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