Tuesday, 2020-02-25

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sean-k-mooneydansmith: i think https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709641/2 will create a tempest full multi node job with a cyborg flavor. it will take a while too run but it should be close if it does not fully work so ill take a look at it agian tomorow00:49
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openstackgerritwangjiajing proposed openstack/nova master: Perfect parameter of method.  https://review.opendev.org/70965202:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Deprecate base rules in favor of new rules  https://review.opendev.org/70162403:18
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openstackgerritArthur Dayne proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt:driver:Disallow AIO=native when 'O_DIRECT' is not available  https://review.opendev.org/68277205:28
openstackgerritMIKI Nobuhiro proposed openstack/nova master: Enable instance to be booted with neutron SR-IOV ports  https://review.opendev.org/70965805:29
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rm_workileixe: hey, thanks for your review of my routed_segments filter06:05
ileixerm_work: :)06:06
rm_workileixe: do you think I should remove the doc/source/user/ change since it is intended for admin use only?06:06
rm_workI was just following the previous set examples, i didn't see a case where a filter was not in both06:06
rm_workand, I am not sure about how this filter would interact with Ironic, as we are not using it with Ironic (godaddy does not deploy Ironic, and Verizon Media has a TON of Ironic usage, but never needing this filter)06:07
rm_workon the patch I mentioned: The main two use-cases are for the Octavia service to keep Loadbalancer VMs on the same segment for failover purposes, and for Live Migrate in routed-networks (I'll be pushing a followup patch for that soon). Users generally will not have a need to use this.06:08
ileixerm_work: um.. i think yes, if you thought it's only for the use-cases.06:09
rm_workOK, then I will remove that user-facing doc piece06:09
ileixeDo you plan to use the filter for extended usecases?06:09
rm_workit could be used for any number of things, but as you point out, non-admin users can't see segment-ids06:10
rm_workso it would be limited in usefulness06:10
ileixeYep then I think it's better to abstract the use for normal user06:10
rm_workI could add a thing maybe to allow a user to pass in a port-id or subnet-id? and we could fetch the port/subnet and get the segment?06:11
ileixeDo you see the previous work for routed network? (https://review.opendev.org/#/c/656885/)06:11
rm_workis it possible to do this just the first time and cache that data in the request_spec?06:11
ileixeDid you see06:11
rm_worki looked briefly but it is a lot more complicated, and it seemed it was not moving forward really06:12
rm_workit's been open for almost a year and now missed another spec freeze...06:13
rm_workthis filter seems like it should be a much simpler thing to merge06:13
ileixeHonestly, I think maybe it's better to add the functionality like that (make resource provider and use request_spec from neutron) for normal user.06:13
ileixeBut for admin, I think simple filter is also userful06:14
ileixe*useful06:14
rm_workok, so limit this filter for admin like it is now, and let people add more advanced user functionality to the patch you linked (or a followup)?06:14
ileixeYes that's what I thought06:14
ileixeSo I wonder how others operate now since it seems to be open question06:15
ileixeAre you working with GoDaddy?06:15
rm_worki was there for two years previously, but now I have been at Verizon Media for a year06:15
rm_workcoincidentally, both use routed networks everywhere :D06:16
ileixeYes, I assume both of them are using a lot06:16
rm_workprobably because both are very large deployments06:16
rm_workI am also the PTL for Octavia06:16
ileixeHow verizon use routed network for end-user?06:16
ileixeDo they maually pre-make port?06:16
rm_workand have been pushing a fix on that project to enable use in routed-networks06:16
ileixeOh great06:16
rm_workend-user is generally unaware06:17
rm_workbecause it does not matter for them in daily use06:17
rm_workas long as "everything works"06:17
rm_workbut for things like Octavia, or live-migrate (which are both service-side uses), the routed-network segment is important06:17
rm_workso again, the user can be shielded from knowing anything at all about it06:17
rm_workas long as the service handles it in the backend06:18
ileixeYes, I think it's more important to other services like Octavia06:18
ileixeIn fact, I investigate it since I have to use ironic too06:18
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rm_workit's possible that Ironic could be patched to make use of this filter too, I assume06:18
ileixeThere seems to be no way to choose segment06:19
ileixein ironic06:19
ileixeyes06:19
rm_workI just don't know much about it06:19
rm_workso yes, if we could merge this filter, it would make things like that possible06:19
ileixeYes, hope some other guys push forward06:21
rm_workupdating the patch to make it clearly admin-only06:25
rm_workthanks for your feedback!06:25
ileixenp :)06:26
openstackgerritAdam Harwell proposed openstack/nova master: Add scheduler filter for routed_segments  https://review.opendev.org/70928006:26
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gibistephenfin: I made a review round on the series https://review.opendev.org/#/c/689388/ I have some questions and suggestions.08:43
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Remove unnecessary parentheses  https://review.opendev.org/70965209:00
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maysamsHello folks, I saw some discussions few years back regarding creating Nova VM with vsock09:04
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maysams but I'm not sure whether the support for it exists as no doc was found09:04
maysamsCould you let me know if this is allowed?09:04
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openstackgerritKevin Zhao proposed openstack/nova master: Add default cpu model for aarch64  https://review.opendev.org/70949409:41
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: tox: Integrate mypy  https://review.opendev.org/67620810:41
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: mypy: Add type annotations to 'nova.pci'  https://review.opendev.org/67620910:41
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: mypy: Add nova.cmd, nova.conf, nova.console  https://review.opendev.org/70565710:41
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: mypy: Add type annotations to top-level modules  https://review.opendev.org/70565810:41
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Tony31Anyone here?10:53
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kashyapTony31: Just ask your question, someone might answer.10:56
kashyapPeople live in different timezones.  So please be patient, if it isn't answered right away.10:56
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Unplug VIFs as part of cleanup of networks  https://review.opendev.org/66338211:26
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Fix incorrect vm and task state after build failure race  https://review.opendev.org/68938811:26
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stephenfinbauzas: Easy +2 here, if you're about https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703146/11:48
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bauzasI can, children vacations \o/11:48
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Add framework for extra spec validation  https://review.opendev.org/70464311:59
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: api: Add microversion 2.82, extra spec validation  https://review.opendev.org/70843611:59
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sean-k-mooneybauzas: i commented on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/656885/3 with my vision of how the route networking supprot should be done. i 100% think this needs a spec and i think we should not focus on just routed network but instead on network aware schdeuling instead.12:44
sean-k-mooneywe have talked about that before at the ptg but its why im opposed to the poc direction as i think it will not be a good fit as it does not adress the generic problem and only the niech usecase of routed network in stead of network aware scheduling which we have disucess at the ptg a few times12:46
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kashyapstephenfin: Hiya ... it's that time of the day (rST quirks):14:26
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kashyapstephenfin: Is there a way to line-break this long-line?14:27
kashyap``Broadwell``, ``Broadwell-IBRS``, ``Broadwell-noTSX``, ``Broadwell-noTSX-IBRS`` Intel Core Processor (Broadwell, 2014)14:27
kashyapstephenfin: Err, let me get a pastebin.  It's a definition list14:27
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kashyapThe first line is 80 lines long (I want to wrap it at 72, but the Sphinx parser complains if you wrap the definition list): https://paste.centos.org/view/4235e78b14:29
kashyapI guess there's no way around it.14:29
stephenfinThere is, but it's not nice14:30
stephenfin|Broadwell|14:30
stephenfin    definition here14:30
stephenfin14:30
stephenfin.. |Broadwell| replace:: ``Broadwell``,14:31
stephenfin  ``Broadwell-IBRS``,14:31
stephenfin  ``Broadwell-noTSX``,14:31
stephenfin...14:31
stephenfinso use substitutions14:31
kashyapOh, we already use that replace thingie elsewhere:14:32
kashyap.. |qemu_system| replace:: qemu-system-x86_6414:32
* kashyap goes to look up "rST substitutions"14:33
stephenfinYup. Here's the full version http://paste.openstack.org/show/789983/14:33
* kashyap clicks14:33
stephenfinIt's not ideal, but it does the job. The alternative is to exceed 80 characters in this case14:33
stephenfinwhich I think is reasonable for the same reason Bugbear does14:34
stephenfin“it’s like highway speed limits, we won’t bother you if you overdo it by a few km/h”.14:34
stephenfin(from https://black.readthedocs.io/en/stable/the_black_code_style.html)14:34
kashyapstephenfin: Yeah, it's not ideal.  Maybe I'll bite the bullet and exceed the length14:35
kashyapWhat is Bugbear?  /me looks14:35
kashyapstephenfin: Hehe, thanks for the assist, as usual.  One day, I'll memorize all the quirks and we can compete on who can remember the obscurest quirks of rST :D14:36
kashyapstephenfin: One of the QEMU maintainers calls rST as the "Perl of markup languages" :D14:36
stephenfinBit harsh14:36
stephenfin:P14:36
kashyapstephenfin: See Paolo's comment in parenthetical there: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2020-02/msg05612.html14:38
kashyapstephenfin: And you'll enjoy the follow-up (I suspect you already know!) from Peter Maydell on the "why of trailing underscore": https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2020-02/msg05631.html14:39
openstackgerritDan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Name Enums  https://review.opendev.org/70870714:41
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: pytype: Resolve issues with 'nova.virt.libvirt'  https://review.opendev.org/70314715:29
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: pytype: Resolve issues with 'nova.virt.vmwareapi'  https://review.opendev.org/70314815:29
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: pytype: Resolve issues with 'nova.virt.hyperv'  https://review.opendev.org/70314915:29
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: pytype: Resolve issues with 'nova.virt.powervm'  https://review.opendev.org/70315015:29
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: pytype: Resolve issues with 'nova.virt.xenapi'  https://review.opendev.org/70315115:29
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: pytype: Resolve final issues with 'nova.virt'  https://review.opendev.org/70315315:29
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: pytype: Resolve issues with 'nova.cmd', 'nova.console', 'nova.db'  https://review.opendev.org/70315415:29
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Unplug VIFs as part of cleanup of networks  https://review.opendev.org/66338215:44
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Fix incorrect vm and task state after build failure race  https://review.opendev.org/68938815:44
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rm_workgibi: hey, thanks for taking a look at the routed_segments patch16:52
rm_workI responded a bit, I am hoping it is clearer what the goal is16:52
rm_workespecially after sean's latest response on the other routed-networks patch16:52
rm_workthat work seems a LONG way off16:53
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gibirm_work: ack, I will check back tomorrow16:54
mriedemgibi: dansmith: be aware https://review.opendev.org/#/c/694428/16:54
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gibimriedem: hi! what is up? :)16:54
gibimriedem: thanks for the heads up16:55
mriedemif you'd like to avoid a CVE...16:55
mriedemheed my warning!16:55
dansmithokay yeah I think there's another patch to do this as well, IIRC16:55
mriedemooo booo16:55
mriedemthe event reporter stuff passes exc_val through as a kwarg i think which formats the exception message before we store it, something like that - it's been awhile, but that could result in storing sensitive info unlike how instance faults work for non-nova exceptions16:57
gibino I definitly don't want CVEs16:59
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rm_workgibi: cool thanks17:02
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rm_workmriedem: coincidentally it's your routed-net patch that I've got a similar CR up for, and am having to justify why/how it's different, lol17:03
rm_workCurious if you'd mind taking a look and giving your 2c17:03
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rm_workhttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/709280/17:04
rm_workEnabling use cases like this one in Octavia: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/706153/17:07
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rm_workOr a very simple patch to let live migrate work:17:07
rm_workhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/L3Y68sS2/live_migrate.patch17:08
rm_work(which if I get any traction on the filter, I'll formalize as a follow-up CR with tests and all)17:09
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mriedemrm_work: i wip'ed that patch up sitting in the last denver ptg nearly a year ago and have lost pretty much all context on it17:23
mriedemmy gripe with the routed networks feature in neutron for years has been we have no integrated CI job testing it since there are moving parts between nova/placement/neutron17:23
mriedemtable stakes (as i think i've said before) for hacking on that feature would be to get a CI job going to make sure that what exists today works before adding more complexity17:24
mriedembut that's my $.0217:24
mriedemwhich is basically $.00 now17:24
gibiand there is an attempt to add CI coverage to routed-net but https://review.opendev.org/#/c/665155/17:28
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Avoid circular reference during serialization  https://review.opendev.org/70979817:28
gibibut it is going along slowly17:28
mriedemhow does that not depend on configuration changes to devstack though?17:29
mriedemi thought there was host aggregate stuff that had to be all synced up, or is that done as part of the test setup?17:29
gibidoen in the tempest test17:29
gibiat least the aggregate part17:30
gibibased on the test doc :)17:30
gibihonestly I still don't know how this feature supposed to work17:31
gibistephenfin: do you have any power over oslo.serialization? I have filed a bug where I might need some support about how we should fix it https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.serialization/+bug/186467817:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1864678 in oslo.serialization "jsonutils.to_primitive does not follow the protocol required by json.dump" [Undecided,New]17:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Remove unnecessary parentheses  https://review.opendev.org/70965219:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Functional test for UnexpectedDeletingTaskStateError  https://review.opendev.org/68927819:29
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Use reasonable name for provider mapping  https://review.opendev.org/69873519:29
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efriedprometheanfire, dansmith: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/708707/ seems to be working. Unless there's something else we need to do to it (dansmith?) I assume the process is:20:03
efried- update the commit message to remove the dep20:03
efried- merge it20:03
efried- recheck and merge the dep20:03
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dansmithefried: recheck to make sure the change works on the old/current version too you mean?20:15
dansmithbut yeah, I guess that's the process20:16
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sean-k-mooneyam i right in thinkin that https://review.opendev.org/#/c/699554/17 or actully the patch before it are technically all that are need to boot a vm with a cyborg deivce20:33
sean-k-mooneythe rpc bump patch is in merge conflict so i cant currently test my multinode job with that so i was temporaly going to depend on the earlier patch to get a ci run tonight20:33
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sean-k-mooneythe patches after https://review.opendev.org/#/c/699554/17 while important are reall just nice to haves in terms of actully executing tempest full to check the job runs correctly20:35
sean-k-mooneyill assume yes and kick off a run. ill be away for an hour or so and check in with it later o/20:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/train: Create instance action when burying in cell0  https://review.opendev.org/70127920:38
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efrieddansmith: recheck because currently it is running against nova that doesn't have this patch20:46
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openstackgerritJason Anderson proposed openstack/nova master: Update resource tracker to use per-hypervisor lock  https://review.opendev.org/70983220:52
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Name Enums  https://review.opendev.org/70870721:41
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