Thursday, 2021-03-18

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melwittsame root failure during create of cinder resources on stable/stein "libvirt.libvirtError: operation failed: 'serial' is deprecated, please use the corresponding option of '-device' instead Could not open '/dev/sdb': Permission denied" https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/e1050a661fec47b49d6d7babc89d71d3/log/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt#326700:37
melwittwhy can't it open /dev/sdb -_-00:37
melwittrather, why is it Permission Denied. argh.00:39
melwittopened https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-gate/+bug/1919920 fwiw00:42
openstackLaunchpad bug 1919920 in OpenStack-Gate "volume related tests sometimes fail with " Could not open '/dev/sdb': Permission denied" on stable/train and stable/stein" [Undecided,New]00:42
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/ussuri: libvirt: Increase incremental and max sleep time during device detach  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/75730605:40
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/pike: [stable-only] Move grenade jobs to experimental  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78113406:48
eanderssonThe whole settings in the database is one of the hardest things for new operators to troubleshoot07:02
eanderssonWhen changing the names of rmq server there seems to be no errors in the logs for some reasons07:03
eanderssonAnd if operators are not aware of that "feature" it is probably the last place they will oook07:03
eandersson*look07:03
eanderssonI guess maybe because the old rabbitmq servers are still online, so it's just a really bad "split brain".07:04
eanderssonAt least for us a common scenario has been to have RabbitMQ and OpenStack services on the same node, but when scaling out having dedicated rmq servers is a thing07:05
eanderssonbut it's not clear to anyone that the rmq config is actually in the database07:06
eandersson(and again super difficult to troubleshoot)07:06
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stephenfinlyarwood, gibi: So in opting for HTTP 409, I was actually following two existing examples: we do this already for both SEV and vTPM issues09:35
stephenfinEverything I've read about HTTP 403 suggests it's to do with authorization issues. That's why we use it for policy. There's are no issues with authorization here. The issue is that the server understood the request but can't support it. HTTP 409 seemed the best of a bad bunch09:37
stephenfinHTTP 400 doesn't seem right either. That would suggest that the request was incorrectly formed. Again, it's correct but we simply can't support it09:38
stephenfinlyarwood, gibi: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/exception.py#L528-L53709:39
lyarwoodstephenfin: right, I saw the examples and I was initially okay with this09:44
lyarwoodstephenfin: I honestly don't care either way tbh, both are a compromise AFAICT09:44
lyarwoodstephenfin: lets chat with gmann later and agree which way to land on this before the deadline tomorrow that gibi raised yesterday09:45
stephenfinI think so too. I thought there was an explicit "the server understands this request but can't service it" code, but I can't find one09:45
stephenfinSounds good. I'll propose a spec update on the assumption that we're going with HTTP 409. I can update if gmann talks us around09:45
lyarwoodsounds good09:47
lyarwoodops snap09:47
lyarwoodstephenfin: how's the hangover btw?09:48
stephenfinfrom all the pints in the pubs I wasn't allowed into?09:48
stephenfin:)09:48
lyarwoodstephenfin: fair point, I did stumble across this yesterday and suddenly wanted a pint https://soundsofthepub.com/09:49
* lyarwood checks https://onewayroadtobeer.com/ to see how long he has to wait in the UK09:50
lyarwood24 days until beer gardens open09:50
lyarwoodand I bet it rains, all day.09:50
stephenfinhahaha09:50
stephenfinnice one09:50
gibistephenfin, lyarwood: yeah, as I said before I have no hard opininon. And also nova is not consistent about such error code so nothing to force ourselves into.09:51
kashyaplyarwood: What do you mean 24 days?  Is it some UK deadline?09:51
kashyapMorning, BTW09:51
lyarwoodkashyap: yes09:51
kashyaplyarwood: Sweet.  On rain ... paradise is a well-watered garden, ya know :D09:52
lyarwoodkashyap: beer gardens (pubs) and outside dining allowed in ~24 days.09:52
* kashyap ducks09:52
gibistephenfin: I think the understood, but cannot support is a 500 code like 50109:52
kashyaplyarwood: Nice.  I thought I'll slowly go senile and die before seeing any of these09:52
kashyap(I mean, they're making similar murmurs here too of opening by 01May)09:52
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gibistephenfin: but the https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/http/response-codes.html#use-of-501-not-implemented disagrees with me about 50109:54
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gibiif we follow that guide ^^ then we should use 40009:56
gibibut I agree to wait for gmann to get up and make a decision09:56
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openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: DNM - Testing glance backports to fix bug #1919993  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78123710:00
openstackbug 1919993 in Glance "test_image_web_download_import_with_bad_url failing on stable/victoria" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191999310:00
lyarwooddansmith: ^ re https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1919993 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance/+/781236 - when you're online could you take a swing at these glance backports to unblock stable/victoria for Nova?10:01
lyarwoodbranchless tempest ftw once again10:01
* lyarwood screams into the void10:01
lyarwoodelod: ^ btw, that should unblock stable/victoria, not sure if you're in stable-glance-core via stable-maint?10:07
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elodlyarwood: yes I have +2 right there as well, I'll review it now10:15
lyarwoodthanks10:18
gibistephenfin: I need your sphinx experties in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/780401/1/nova/api/openstack/compute/rest_api_version_history.rst#114510:20
gibistephenfin: the current way is fine by me but maybe there is other possibilities10:20
stephenfingibi: That works, but we could/should probably just update the release note in novaclient10:23
stephenfini.e. add https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/780401/1/nova/api/openstack/compute/rest_api_version_history.rst#39210:23
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Change error code when vDPA is unsupported  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/78125910:24
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs master: trivial: Fix spelling, formatting of vDPA spec  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/78126010:24
gibistephenfin: so have an explicit well named anchor in the nova doc and update the novaclient reno to refer to the well named anchor?10:26
stephenfinI think that would be a better approach, yes10:26
stephenfinPersonally10:26
gibiOK lets do that10:26
gibiI can propose the fix10:26
stephenfinSounds good. Happy to review10:27
gibicool10:27
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openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: compute: Reject requests to commit intermediary snapshot of an inactive instance  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78113811:10
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Delegate OVS plug to os-vif  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/60243211:12
lyarwoodgibi: mind if I add a cinder cross project session in the PTG pad, have a topic.11:20
gibilyarwood: please do11:20
lyarwooddone thanks11:28
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lyarwoodelod: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/758733/ is ready for review btw11:50
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add a resource limits guide  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78143312:31
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add a real-time guide  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78143412:31
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Remove duplicate TPM extra spec info  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78143512:31
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Remove duplicated PCI passthrough extra spec info  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78143612:31
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add SEV guide  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78143712:31
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add CPU models guide  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78143812:31
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Change formatting of hypervisor config guides  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78143912:31
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add libvirt misc doc  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78144012:31
stephenfinSome good docs there. I was holding off until after feature freeze ^12:31
kashyapstephenfin: Cool; a separate CPU models guide is good; instead of that info buried elsewhere12:36
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add image metadata property reference guide  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/75686712:37
kashyapstephenfin: We could also link docs like these into it: something like "See also: https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/mitigation-for-Intel-MDS-security-flaws.html"12:37
kashyapIf only to make it more discoverable; /me adds a note in the review12:37
stephenfinI'll probably move that doc into the cpu-models one (with a redirect) at some point12:37
stephenfinIt would fit nicely in there as a concrete use case12:37
kashyapYeah.  Idd12:39
kashyapstephenfin: There's additional things we can mention on 'host-model' that can be very useful for people to know _why_ we default to it12:41
* kashyap goes to add some notes in the change12:41
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elodlyarwood: +2+W'd12:49
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lyarwoodelod: thanks13:02
kashyapstephenfin: Sorry for the wall o' text here, but I hope some useful crumbs in there: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78143813:10
kashyaps/hope/hope there are/13:13
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dansmithlyarwood: ugh, yeah sorry.. fix a bug, get punished I guess13:23
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dansmithlyarwood: assuming that's going to affect all older branches, we may want to make tempest only rely on that behavior for new enough glance13:24
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gibistephenfin: it seems '.. _2.88 microversion:' does not generate an anchor but '.. _microversion 2.88:' does generate 'microversion-2-88' as an anchor13:28
gibiso I'm wondering how our other anchors starting with numbers in the microversion history document ever worked13:28
lyarwooddansmith: no issues, no idea about the glance jobs but Nova only started testing that in stable/victoria so the backports should be enough for us13:28
dansmithlyarwood: ahh, right13:29
dansmithman gerrit is s l o w today13:31
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Use well named anchor into the microversion history  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/78148413:56
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: doc: mark the max microversion for wallaby  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78040114:03
gibistephenfin: ^^ your turn14:04
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mnaserweirdest thing ever14:07
mnaserwe changed the db for a system (literally, just mysqldump | mysql)14:07
mnaserand now, limit= from nova api is always returning exactly half of what we are supposed to get14:07
mnaserhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/BEMJghhM/14:08
mnaseranyone seen something like this? o_O14:08
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openstackgerritLee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: block_device: Use initialize APIs to refresh when reported as idempotent  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/72076914:18
gmannlyarwood: gibi stephenfin IMO, 400 is right one and if we change existing 409/403 to 400 it does not require microversion bump.14:25
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lyarwoodmnaser: odd running master?14:44
lyarwoodstephenfin: ^ are you cool with gmann's suggestion?14:44
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dansmithelod: [07:53:00]  <abhishekk> lyarwood, dansmith may be Elod will approve the patches while I am gone14:57
elodlyarwood: I think https://review.opendev.org/781493 needs to be squashed with https://review.opendev.org/781426/ otherwise gate won't pass, am I right?14:57
eloddansmith: sure14:57
abhishekkelod, right14:57
lyarwoodjebus14:58
abhishekkdansmith, so to avoid all this dance, can we just drop lower constraints job?14:58
lyarwoodokay sorry14:58
dansmithabhishekk: yeah, for sure, I was just trying to avoid the dance since it was supposed to all be headed to the gate14:59
dansmithabhishekk: but if you want to push that in underneath (or get lyarwood to do it) that's fine with me14:59
abhishekkand sqash the dropping of nova-ceph job with action wrapper14:59
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dansmithI wasn't 100% sure we had settled on that as a wider community, as was asserted in the meeting, but I was definitely not following that whole thread14:59
abhishekkok, so lets keep it as it is at the moment14:59
lyarwoodI'll squash things now15:00
abhishekklyarwood, yep, go ahead15:00
dansmithabhishekk: to be clear, I'm saying at this point, we're not headed for gate, so we can do whatever you want :)15:00
dansmithlyarwood: has nova dropped the lower-constraints job(s)?15:00
abhishekkdansmith, yes, lets merge that dropping lower constraint patch differently15:01
dansmithabhishekk: ack15:01
abhishekkafter this is done15:01
elodno, lc jobs are still there (only disabled on rocky(?))15:01
lyarwooddansmith: no15:01
dansmithack, okay15:01
gmanndansmith: abhishekk we still have not concluded that what to do on l-c job15:01
gmanndiscussing in today TC meeting15:01
dansmithgmann: okay I thought it wasn't quite decided yet, but others seemed to think it was15:02
abhishekkgmann, ack, thanks15:02
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bauzasgibi: dansmith: fwiw, I removed my -2 from  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/761452 as we're after the FF15:43
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Use proper headers in nova-manage man page  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/72619115:43
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Rewrite 'nova-manage db' docs to use proper directives  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/67750915:43
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Rewrite 'nova-manage api_db', 'cell_v2' docs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/72619215:43
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Rewrite 'nova-manage placement' docs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/72619315:43
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Document options for remaining nova-* commands  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/72619515:43
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Populate "See Also" section with meaningful links  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/72991715:43
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add man pages for 'nova-policy'  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/72991815:43
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Rewrite 'nova-manage libvirt' docs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78150415:43
bauzasdansmith: still working on removing 5.0 but given we only have a week, maybe we should just merge the above ? ^15:44
dansmithbauzas: ack, I'm out tomorrow and won't get to revisiting that today I expect, so whatever gibi wants to do15:45
bauzasdansmith: given we will remove the V5proxy in Xena, the 5.0 support would only be in the Wallaby release15:45
gibidansmith bauzas: if we land what we have today, does that pose any serious limitation?15:46
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bauzasgibi: mmmm, I don't know15:46
dansmithgibi: well, I haven't reviewed the latest rev, but no, it's just more than we need and also it lies a bit about older versions we say we can support but can't really, but in practice it's probably not a big deal15:47
bauzaswe have a lof of merge conflicts that said => https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/76145215:47
gibidansmith: OK, so it is safe to merge, and if time allows we can improve. But considering RC1 next week I don't think we will improve much15:47
dansmithagain, haven't reviewed the latest one, but the approach yeah15:48
* dansmith is in another meeting15:48
gibiI reviewed the changes between the version you reviewed and the latest and nothing major there. So I ugrade my vote to +215:50
gibibtw, nova meeting starts in 10 minutes in #openstack-meeting-315:51
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elodlyarwood: about https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/75873315:55
elodlyarwood: only victoria is hit by the nova-ceph-multistore failure15:55
lyarwoodelod: urgh sorry15:56
elodlyarwood: as only there exists the job15:56
elodafais15:56
lyarwoodelod: I got a little carried away, someone was rechecking my stable/victoria changes15:56
lyarwoodelod: I've removed my -W15:56
elodok, no problem :)15:56
fricklerwasn't there a tool to resync placement data with nova-compute (on stein)? I have 14 instances on my compute, but only 6 in placement15:56
elodlyarwood: just wanted to highlight that only victoria is blocked. (i guess the glance fix can be backported to older branches, though)15:57
lyarwoodfrickler: https://docs.openstack.org/nova/stein/cli/nova-manage.html#placement heal_allocations?15:57
fricklerlyarwood: ah, "heal" was the keyword, thx15:58
lyarwoodelod: yeah assuming it applies, I can't recall when the feature was landed15:58
lyarwoodfrickler: np15:58
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gibilyarwood: could you hit the VDPA reno? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78086616:37
lyarwoodsure16:37
gibithanks16:38
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lyarwoodgibi: can we chat about the libvirt detach series tomorrow if you still have bandwidth to land it before rc17:10
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Luzistephenfin: it seems you care for the documentation in nova :) do you have some time to review this doc fix for secure live migration: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78103017:27
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gibilyarwood: sure, I will ping you in the morning, my afternoon is pretty hectic17:31
stephenfinLuzi: Sure. I meant to do that this morning17:32
lyarwoodgibi: kk sounds good, I'll be driving my kid around first thing, should be online by ~10am GMT17:33
lyarwoodif not it can wait until Monday, just want to help get it over the line17:34
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/pike: rt: Make resource tracker always invoking get_inventory()  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/77801417:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova stable/pike: Update resources once in update_available_resource  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/61229517:37
Luzistephenfin, thank you17:37
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add image metadata property reference guide  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/75686717:55
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Change 'add_stylesheet' to 'add_css_file'  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78152917:55
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add 'nova:image-meta:' directive, role  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78153017:55
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add cross-references to image metadata properties  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78153117:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/nova master: Add config parameter 'live_migration_scheme' to live migration with tls guide  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/78103019:01
gibilyarwood: ack, talk to you tomorrow19:02
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