| *** mhen_ is now known as mhen | 02:54 | |
| opendevreview | ChungWon Lee proposed openstack/nova master: Reduce node build fail value by time https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/939929 | 06:17 |
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| opendevreview | ChungWon Lee proposed openstack/nova master: Reduce node build fail value by time https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/939929 | 06:26 |
| opendevreview | ChungWon Lee proposed openstack/nova master: Reduce node build fail value by time https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/939929 | 09:44 |
| * Uggla would like to remind to update nova upstream meeting timeslot: https://meetings.opendev.org/#Nova_Team_Meeting | 09:50 | |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Make libvirt Tpool proxying conditional https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/956090 | 09:53 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Make guestfs' Tpool usage optional https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/965821 | 09:53 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Fix ProviderTree copying with threading Lock https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/956091 | 09:53 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: [test]Further categorization of disabled unit tests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/956092 | 09:53 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Do not fork compute workers in native threading mode https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/965466 | 09:53 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Run nova-compute in native threading mode https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/965467 | 09:53 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: [vncproxy]Handle ssl.wrap_socket removal in py312 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/955915 | 09:56 |
| sean-k-mooney | Uggla: oh ya thats today have you updated the wiki? | 09:56 |
| Uggla | sean-k-mooney, not yet gonna update it. | 09:57 |
| sean-k-mooney | https://meetings.opendev.org/#Nova_Team_Meeting | 09:57 |
| sean-k-mooney | it looks correct | 09:57 |
| gibi | sambork_: I moved https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/955915 out from my series and put it top of master as it belongs to the vnc series you volunteered to. Feel free to build top of it | 09:57 |
| sean-k-mooney | Uggla: oh i didnt mean the adgenda | 09:58 |
| sean-k-mooney | but that would be good to update as well | 09:58 |
| sambork_ | gibi, ack thanks! | 09:58 |
| sean-k-mooney | Uggla: i was asking becaue the meetign page has ical files so i could just update it in my calandar | 09:59 |
| jkulik | sean-k-mooney: (since I got from the PTG that pinging people is _the way_) if you find some time, could you take another look at https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/959696 ? | 09:59 |
| sean-k-mooney | sure | 10:00 |
| sean-k-mooney | oh i remember looking at this before | 10:00 |
| sean-k-mooney | jkulik: you mention there is a second change ye plan to propose? is that also pushed for reveiw or still somethign ye are working on | 10:03 |
| jkulik | I haven't pushed it, yet. I've got the code downstream already and I think I described it in the bug-report. | 10:03 |
| sean-k-mooney | ```Another reason is, that nova-api queries all server-groups from the DB - fetching all the data and creating all the objects - and afterwards applies the limits/offset. This is highly inefficient if the number of server-groups is larger than the pagination limit.``` | 10:04 |
| sean-k-mooney | it that part | 10:04 |
| jkulik | yes | 10:05 |
| sean-k-mooney | ack | 10:05 |
| jkulik | I didn't want to overwhelm upstream with too many parallel patches, so I thought pushing one patch at a time would be better. | 10:06 |
| Uggla | sean-k-mooney, yep fyi the ics here should be ok to import https://meetings.opendev.org/#Nova_Team_Meeting, and now the wiki page https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting should be ok too regarding team meetings. | 10:06 |
| sean-k-mooney | jkulik: my only real feedback is https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/959696/2/nova/tests/unit/api/openstack/compute/test_server_groups.py#393 is not a unit test it sa functional test but its not discimilar to the other "unit" tests in the file so i think its ok | 10:08 |
| sean-k-mooney | its defiently testing more then a single fucntion in isolation | 10:08 |
| gibi | jkulik: I have a request inline to improve condition and I would like to ask you to provide a releasenotes | 10:09 |
| gibi | otherwise it looks OK to me | 10:09 |
| jkulik | thank you both | 10:10 |
| sean-k-mooney | gibi: ah using is none thats fair | 10:10 |
| sean-k-mooney | an empty set woudl resutl in member bing an empty list otherwiws when then intersection is doen | 10:11 |
| sean-k-mooney | jkulik: adding a release note also makes sense but i woudl suggest updating the release not in your second patch so we have one release note for the bug assuming we merge both this cycle and backport both together | 10:13 |
| jkulik | ok. | 10:13 |
| sean-k-mooney | jkulik: is that the only nova review you have open currently. i feel like there was another but looking at your gerrit list i dont see it | 10:16 |
| sean-k-mooney | i may be miss remembering as i knwo there were a few patches that were dicussed at the ptg that i intened to loop back to this week | 10:17 |
| jkulik | I don't have another open PR myself, but was wondering over in #openstack-eventlet-removal how to best handle olso.vmware's use of a Timeout in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.vmware/+/942109 | 10:21 |
| opendevreview | Pablo Colson proposed openstack/nova stable/2025.1: wip https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/965902 | 10:21 |
| jkulik | sean-k-mooney: maybe you're remembering the NVRAM topic, because I joined in on the discussion? it was nicolairuckel's though. | 10:21 |
| *** sambork_ is now known as sambork | 10:43 | |
| opendevreview | Johannes Kulik proposed openstack/nova master: api: Pre-query not deleted members in server groups https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/959696 | 10:46 |
| sean-k-mooney | jkulik: i think it was either that or some of noonedeadpunk topic where we said we shoudl just merge the existing patchs for iothread and live migration concurrency | 11:09 |
| opendevreview | Johannes Beisiegel proposed openstack/nova master: fix cinderclient _SESSION http_retries https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/965914 | 11:58 |
| *** bogdando_ is now known as bogdando | 12:38 | |
| opendevreview | Pablo Colson proposed openstack/nova stable/2025.1: wip https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/965902 | 12:42 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: [CI]nova-alternative-configuration tests eventlet https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/965922 | 13:07 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Move monkey_patch call to each cmd from init https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/965923 | 13:07 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Default native threading for sch, api and metadata https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/965924 | 13:07 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Default native threading for sch, api and metadata https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/965924 | 13:11 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney: dansmith: ^^ as agreed on the PTG, lets switch the default early in G ^^ | 13:13 |
| sean-k-mooney | oh for the threading model ack | 13:13 |
| opendevreview | Max proposed openstack/nova master: fix: leftover volume_attachment on instance delete https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/934984 | 13:17 |
| opendevreview | Max proposed openstack/nova master: Add regression test for bug #2088066 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/965927 | 13:17 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Default native threading for sch, api and metadata https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/965924 | 14:22 |
| Uggla | fungi, I might need your help. My ptg summary is blocked (too large) waiting for your validation. Can you please allow this message on the mailing list. | 15:12 |
| fungi | Uggla: no problem, i was just starting to do my daily check of the moderation queues, just a sec | 15:13 |
| Uggla | To all: nova upstream meeting in ~45mn. | 15:14 |
| Uggla | fungi, thx. | 15:14 |
| fungi | Uggla: done, should be in everyone's inbox momentarily. let me know if you need anything else | 15:16 |
| Uggla | fungi, cool thanks | 15:19 |
| opendevreview | Max proposed openstack/nova master: Add regression test for bug #2088066 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/965927 | 15:24 |
| opendevreview | Max proposed openstack/nova master: fix: leftover volume_attachment on instance delete https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/934984 | 15:24 |
| opendevreview | Rajesh Tailor proposed openstack/nova master: Update the api-ref for unshelve https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/938054 | 15:32 |
| clarkb | Uggla: I think your email was sent as both html and plain text. So you can cut the size in ~half by only sending text fwiw | 15:54 |
| Uggla | clarkb, yes, but I'd like to provide both. I thin html is a bit more friendly for graphical clients. | 15:59 |
| Uggla | *think | 15:59 |
| clarkb | I use graphical clients and the first thing I do is disable html everywhere I can... | 16:00 |
| sean-k-mooney | same | 16:01 |
| sean-k-mooney | i only render html if there i sno plain text version in the email | 16:01 |
| Uggla | clarkb, I agree, but not sure everybody is doing the same. | 16:01 |
| * dansmith is too | 16:02 | |
| Uggla | #startmeeting nova | 16:02 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Mon Nov 3 16:02:44 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Uggla. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 16:02 |
| fwiesel | o/ | 16:02 |
| dansmith | o/ | 16:03 |
| sean-k-mooney | o/ | 16:03 |
| Uggla | Hello everyone | 16:03 |
| gibi | o/ | 16:03 |
| Uggla | First meeting with the new timing. | 16:04 |
| Uggla | I hope you are all good after this quite long PTG. | 16:05 |
| Uggla | Not the notes on the wiki agenda are not updated, I lacked time to do that. | 16:06 |
| Uggla | Anyway let's start. | 16:06 |
| Uggla | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 16:06 |
| Uggla | #info No Critical bug | 16:06 |
| Uggla | #topic Gate status | 16:06 |
| Uggla | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure Nova gate bugs | 16:06 |
| Uggla | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-ci-failures-minimal | 16:06 |
| Uggla | #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fnova&project=openstack%2Fplacement&branch=stable%2F*&branch=master&pipeline=periodic-weekly&skip=0 Nova&Placement periodic jobs status | 16:07 |
| Uggla | #info Please look at the gate failures and file a bug report with the gate-failure tag. | 16:07 |
| Uggla | #info Please try to provide a meaningful comment when you recheck | 16:07 |
| Uggla | I just have a quick glance at the gate jobs, I have not seen something frightening. | 16:07 |
| Uggla | But I could be wrong. | 16:08 |
| Uggla | Does someone want to report something ? | 16:08 |
| gibi | nope. Gate seems to be OK | 16:09 |
| gibi | to me | 16:09 |
| Uggla | ok so moving on | 16:09 |
| Uggla | #topic tempest-with-latest-microversion job status | 16:09 |
| Uggla | gmaan, are you around ? Something to report ? | 16:09 |
| Uggla | I guess gmaan is not available so skiping this topic. | 16:11 |
| Uggla | #topic Release Planning | 16:11 |
| Uggla | #link https://releases.openstack.org/gazpacho/schedule.html | 16:11 |
| Uggla | ^ this is not yet updated with the PTG info, I will do that either later or tomorrow. | 16:12 |
| Uggla | #info PTG etherpad for 2026.1 is available: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2026.1-ptg | 16:13 |
| Uggla | He have just sent the summary, https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/7RD26DHKJV5DBXHXLRZIRFKJNMHZFCUB/ | 16:13 |
| Uggla | I hope it is ok and I don't miss too many things. | 16:13 |
| sean-k-mooney | its on my too read list but i have not got to it yet | 16:15 |
| sean-k-mooney | if i think of anything ill reply to the email | 16:15 |
| Uggla | sean-k-mooney, sure | 16:16 |
| Uggla | let's say that sometime I may have summarized a bit too much. | 16:17 |
| Uggla | I also use a bit of AI, but not too much. Lazy I am. | 16:18 |
| sean-k-mooney | well you included the readonly link to the full ptg etherpad | 16:18 |
| sean-k-mooney | so all the info is aviabel if peopel want to dig deeper | 16:18 |
| Uggla | yep, I was also lazy not to provide the summary on x session that Nova had not run. | 16:19 |
| Uggla | So Ironic, Neutron, Glance. | 16:19 |
| Uggla | I think we can move on, unless someone wants to add something else. | 16:20 |
| bauzas | o/ | 16:20 |
| Uggla | bauzas o/ | 16:20 |
| Uggla | #topic OpenAPI | 16:21 |
| Uggla | #link: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22openapi%22+(project:openstack/nova+OR+project:openstack/placement)+-status:merged+-status:abandoned | 16:21 |
| Uggla | #info still 28 remaining atm. | 16:22 |
| Uggla | As Elod seems not available skipping Stable branch point | 16:22 |
| Uggla | Just worth to mention that Caracal will move to unmaintained. | 16:24 |
| Uggla | #topic vmwareapi 3rd-party CI efforts Highlights | 16:24 |
| fwiesel | Hi, no updates from my side. | 16:24 |
| Uggla | fwiesel, thx, as about to ask, but you were faster than me. | 16:25 |
| Uggla | #topic Gibi's news about eventlet removal. | 16:25 |
| Uggla | gibi, something you'd like to say. | 16:25 |
| sean-k-mooney | fwiesel: are there still patches for vmware that are pednign reveiw | 16:25 |
| gibi | sure | 16:25 |
| sean-k-mooney | i fell like we never got around to merging all of them but i coudl be wrgon | 16:25 |
| gibi | nova-sch, -api, -metadata is now proposed to be switched to native threading by default as agreed on the PTG. Patch series https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/965924 | 16:27 |
| gibi | nova-compute can boot VMs now in native threading mode with https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/965467/3 . Libvirt event handling does not work yet so live migration and device attach is failing. | 16:27 |
| gibi | Uggla: this is the two news I had | 16:28 |
| dansmith | gibi: nice | 16:28 |
| Uggla | gibi 👍 | 16:28 |
| fwiesel | sean-k-mooney: To be honest, I am not sure I submitted it to review yet. It was depending on the bug in cinder getting fixed, | 16:28 |
| sean-k-mooney | fwiesel: ack | 16:29 |
| sean-k-mooney | fwiesel: just wanted to make sure you were not blocked on reviwe on the nova side | 16:29 |
| sean-k-mooney | gibi: cool i briefly looked last week but not in any detail | 16:29 |
| fwiesel | sean-k-mooney: Thanks | 16:30 |
| Uggla | #topic Open discussion | 16:31 |
| Uggla | No agenda topic today. | 16:32 |
| Uggla | Does someone want to share about something ? | 16:32 |
| gibi | - | 16:32 |
| bauzas | . | 16:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | ` | 16:33 |
| gibi | :) | 16:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | i think that is a no | 16:33 |
| gibi | ∅ | 16:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | do we want to do some bug triage or give everyone back some time | 16:33 |
| Uggla | I think we gonna keep this one short. Especially after last long week. | 16:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | +1 | 16:34 |
| Uggla | I will restart the rooster stuff for triage, along the week. it should be ready next week. | 16:35 |
| fwiesel | Then, thanks everyone | 16:35 |
| Uggla | anyway, time to close. Thanks for joining this meeting. Have a nice day/evening. | 16:35 |
| Uggla | #endmeeting | 16:36 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Mon Nov 3 16:36:03 2025 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:36 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-11-03-16.02.html | 16:36 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-11-03-16.02.txt | 16:36 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2025/nova.2025-11-03-16.02.log.html | 16:36 |
| gibi | thakmks | 16:36 |
| gibi | thanks | 16:36 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Libvirt event handling without eventlet https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/965949 | 16:51 |
| dansmith | melwitt: so... I redeployed the vTPM series at the host patch this morning | 18:36 |
| dansmith | and I'm able to create an instance in host mode as a user, stop it, and then restart it as the admin | 18:37 |
| dansmith | which shows that we've actually improved things before we even get to the deployment mode and migration part of the series | 18:37 |
| dansmith | that's expected right? | 18:38 |
| melwitt | dansmith: yes that is expected | 18:38 |
| melwitt | it was a small change in the 'host' support patch to make restart as admin work | 18:38 |
| dansmith | confirming because I'm not really testing the tpm part, but the instance does have a tpm and it's not complaining when the admin does it | 18:38 |
| dansmith | yeah, cool | 18:38 |
| dansmith | so I'm thinking it would be good, since we have several +2s (some of which are stale) to just go ahead and merge up to the host patch to reduce the size of the series, claim some success and focus on the later bits | 18:39 |
| dansmith | any problem with that? | 18:39 |
| dansmith | I wish bauzas was here but I think he's already EOD | 18:39 |
| melwitt | sounds cool to me | 18:40 |
| dansmith | okay I'll make sure my +2s are good down the line from there and then we can pounce on him tomorrow | 18:41 |
| melwitt | ++ | 18:43 |
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