| fkr | good morning | 07:57 |
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| fkr | at 0800 UTC the publiccloud sig starts. We'll be over here: https://conf.scs.koeln:8443/OIF-public-cloud-sig | 07:58 |
| fkr | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/publiccloud-sig-meeting | 08:03 |
| *** LarsErik1 is now known as LarsErikP | 08:35 | |
| puck | For the next publiccloud-sig meeting I'll have a different location. But I won't spoil that surprise till then. :) | 09:22 |
| fkr | :) | 09:28 |
| *** freyes_ is now known as freyes | 14:01 | |
| ttx | o/ | 16:00 |
| ttx | #startmeeting large_scale_sig | 16:00 |
| amorin | hello! | 16:01 |
| ttx | hmm not sure we have the bot today | 16:01 |
| frickler | ttx: doesn't work with leadin space | 16:01 |
| ttx | haha lol | 16:01 |
| ttx | #startmeeting large_scale_sig | 16:01 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Jan 24 16:01:43 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'large_scale_sig' | 16:01 |
| ttx | copypaste matrix fail | 16:01 |
| ttx | #topic Rollcall | 16:01 |
| belmoreira | o/ | 16:02 |
| ttx | Anyone here for the Large Scale SIG meeting? | 16:02 |
| ttx | Belmiro! Happy new year, man | 16:02 |
| belmoreira | hi everyone | 16:02 |
| ttx | How are things going in space? | 16:02 |
| ttx | amorin: hi! | 16:03 |
| belmoreira | Happy New Year! Finally stars aligned and I don't have a conflicting meeting in this slot | 16:03 |
| amorin | hey! | 16:03 |
| belmoreira | still on earth... :) | 16:03 |
| ttx | #topic 2024 Large Scale SIG activities | 16:03 |
| ttx | Our agenda is at https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/large-scale-sig-meeting | 16:04 |
| ttx | Wanted to start with a discussion of what we should plan to do this year | 16:04 |
| fkr | o/ | 16:04 |
| ttx | Any goals, ideas? | 16:05 |
| felixhuettner[m] | o/ | 16:05 |
| ttx | felix.huettner: o/ | 16:05 |
| belmoreira | The "live" episodes are always a very good media for discussion | 16:06 |
| belmoreira | is there some ideas for 2024? | 16:06 |
| ttx | Regarding OpenInfra Live, I'm not sure how aggressively the Foundation will pursue future episodes, so we could consider a change in format (make it podcast rather than webcast, make it not live, etc.) | 16:06 |
| felixhuettner[m] | i also realy like the discussions there | 16:07 |
| ttx | It feels like teh "live" audience has been dwindling a bit | 16:07 |
| felixhuettner[m] | but not sure if find more guests | 16:07 |
| ttx | but if you think those are great we can definitely continue them | 16:07 |
| amorin | make sense to change the format in my opinion | 16:07 |
| belmoreira | The format that is there now is already +/- "podcast" like | 16:08 |
| felixhuettner[m] | does it maybe make sense to add topic based discussions instead of company based? | 16:08 |
| felixhuettner[m] | allthough i have nothing specific in mind there | 16:08 |
| ttx | belmoreira: yes, we just have a bunch of extra constraints (live means it's at a given predictable time in the day, etc) | 16:08 |
| belmoreira | true, actually my main constrain | 16:09 |
| ttx | making it not-live could open up to more guests, but we'd lose the live questions component | 16:09 |
| ttx | making it not-video would reduce production constraints, but we'd lose the possibility to show slides in corner cases | 16:10 |
| felixhuettner[m] | and while there is not too much, i think they help the discussion | 16:10 |
| amorin | I am not sure a podcast would work, are people ready to listen to large scale stuff without visual things ? | 16:10 |
| ttx | felix.huettner: topic-based discussion usually means a bit more work to gather "adequate" speakers | 16:10 |
| belmoreira | "podcast" sound only it would be a new format for us... the distribution channels would be different | 16:11 |
| ttx | I'm fine with continuing the current format, we just might need help securing future guests | 16:11 |
| belmoreira | not sure if we would like to add that complexity ("podcast sound"). Also, then we need to attract a different type of listener/participant | 16:12 |
| ttx | If you want an episode on a topic-based discussion and you secure the guests, I'll gladly help set it up | 16:12 |
| belmoreira | In the current format we have that flexibility... actually we did it several times in the past | 16:13 |
| belmoreira | (upgrades as an example) | 16:13 |
| ttx | Maybe we can continue on the "live" format, but encourage people to come with a topic and a bunch of interested guests (can be around a company deployment or around a specific operational topic) | 16:13 |
| ttx | that removes the weird intermediary step where someone no teh Foundation side takes the guest suggestions and goes to secure them | 16:14 |
| ttx | "on the Foundation side" | 16:14 |
| felixhuettner[m] | would also be interesting | 16:14 |
| felixhuettner[m] | just to figure out what people want to share | 16:14 |
| fkr | I can see wether I can actively 'recruit' speakers/topics from the Public Cloud SIG or from among the operators within the scs ecosystem | 16:14 |
| ttx | so we'd rely on a community "producer" to propose an episode, complete with guests... and we'd make it happen on the live platform | 16:15 |
| ttx | (we = foundation staff) | 16:15 |
| fkr | every now and then topics come up in the Lean Operator coffee we have at SCS that I think, would be a good fit for the live format. will see about pursueing that. | 16:16 |
| ttx | rather than centralize everything | 16:16 |
| ttx | I mean, centralizing worked well, but it's better to crowdsource ideas and guest connections | 16:16 |
| felixhuettner[m] | then i would ask around in the ovn community session, maybe someone would like to share something | 16:16 |
| belmoreira | I'm OK with it. We need to see if it works out. How we gonna pass the message to the community? | 16:17 |
| ttx | Instead of trying to force an episode now and then, the Foundation would organize them upon request, after the Large Scale SIG vets the proposal | 16:18 |
| ttx | We can say "the Large Scale SIG looks for ideas for future live webcasts -- if you are interested ..." | 16:18 |
| ttx | That said I expect most of the ideas / episode proposals to come from this group | 16:19 |
| belmoreira | sounds good | 16:19 |
| ttx | the main difference is that we would not commit to a cadence as much as we did in the past. No proposal, no episode, that's ok | 16:19 |
| felixhuettner[m] | +1 | 16:20 |
| belmoreira | +1 | 16:20 |
| amorin | +1 | 16:20 |
| ttx | I'd rather wait for a good one that run one half-baked (there was one last year that felt very half-baked :) ) | 16:20 |
| ttx | #agreed Large Scale OpenStack show will continue in a live webcast format in 2024, but episodes will be suggested (complete with willing guests) by the community and approved during Large Scale SIG meetings | 16:22 |
| ttx | #agreed No predefined cadence -- no proposal, no episode, that's ok | 16:22 |
| ttx | #action ttx to send an email to the openstack-discuss list asking for ideas | 16:23 |
| ttx | Anything else on the topic of our 2024 activities? I guess we'll continue to slow-roll updates to the doc | 16:23 |
| belmoreira | not form me | 16:24 |
| belmoreira | form/from | 16:24 |
| amorin | nop | 16:25 |
| ttx | #topic Large scale doc | 16:25 |
| ttx | on the topic of doc... I haven't seen anything recently but if you did let me know | 16:25 |
| felixhuettner[m] | yep, nothing from me yet | 16:25 |
| ttx | #topic Next meeting(s) | 16:26 |
| amorin | nothing here, but I wish I will find time to explain something about rabbitmq streams and quorum, it was merged last week, so we will be able to explain it | 16:26 |
| belmoreira | it was great to catch up with you, again. | 16:26 |
| belmoreira | hopefully will be able to join other meetings | 16:26 |
| ttx | amorin: keep us posted! | 16:26 |
| amorin | yes, nice to see you belmoreira! | 16:26 |
| belmoreira | need to leave now. | 16:26 |
| ttx | #info Next EU+APAC IRC meeting Feb. 7, 9utc | 16:27 |
| ttx | belmobye! | 16:27 |
| ttx | belmoreira: bye! | 16:27 |
| ttx | #info Next EU+US IRC meeting Feb 21, 16utc | 16:27 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 16:27 |
| ttx | Anything else to mention? | 16:27 |
| ttx | or discuss? | 16:28 |
| amorin | nothing here | 16:28 |
| ttx | Alright then... | 16:29 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 16:29 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Jan 24 16:29:14 2024 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:29 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2024/large_scale_sig.2024-01-24-16.01.html | 16:29 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2024/large_scale_sig.2024-01-24-16.01.txt | 16:29 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2024/large_scale_sig.2024-01-24-16.01.log.html | 16:29 |
| ttx | Will post summary to the list | 16:29 |
| amorin | thanks, see you! | 16:32 |
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