| fkr | good morning. Quick reminder, today at 0700 UTC there is the meeting of the publiccloud-sig | 05:56 |
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| ttx | #startmeeting large_scale_sig | 09:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Sep 18 09:00:08 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
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| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'large_scale_sig' | 09:00 |
| ttx | Hi everyone, welcome to the Large Scale SIG meeting! | 09:00 |
| ttx | #topic Rollcall | 09:00 |
| ttx | amorin felix.huettner around? | 09:00 |
| amorin | Hey! | 09:01 |
| ttx | Hi! welcome back | 09:01 |
| amorin | Thanks! | 09:01 |
| ttx | anyone else? | 09:02 |
| ttx | Our agenda is at https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/large-scale-sig-meeting | 09:03 |
| ttx | #topic Epoxy activities | 09:03 |
| ttx | I wanted to discuss what we should be trying to do over the next development cycle | 09:03 |
| ttx | It always feels like there is a lot of interest in large scale SIG when I talk to various users around the world, but that does not translate necessarily into IRC meeting participation | 09:04 |
| ttx | Regular meetings at a specified time on IRC seem to be a barrier to some. I wonder how to turn more activities in a async or ad-hoc manner | 09:05 |
| amorin | agree, we struggle to find people participating | 09:05 |
| amorin | do you think an async would bring more people? | 09:06 |
| ttx | Ironically it looks easier to organize a openinfra Live episode because it's a one-off and we can set up dedicated meetings at times that are convenient for participants to prepare | 09:06 |
| ttx | i think it's more difficult to motivate people to attend a regular meeting than to prepare a webcast | 09:06 |
| amorin | so maybe we could stop our IRC meetings and communicate more on the mailing list? | 09:07 |
| ttx | I'm fine with the IRC meeting basically being the meeting between the 3-4 leads of the SIG | 09:08 |
| ttx | but we need other things to reach out to other users | 09:08 |
| amorin | ok | 09:08 |
| ttx | I don't have a magic solution, that's why I wanted to discuss it | 09:08 |
| amorin | maybe we could start discussions on the ml at a regular basis? | 09:09 |
| ttx | maybe we should just organize thematic events and invite people to join if they are interested | 09:09 |
| ttx | events could be zoom meetings or openinfralive webcasts | 09:10 |
| ttx | but this is all a lot more time consuming | 09:10 |
| ttx | Or maybe we should just continue to organize regular webcasts, and just use a monthly meeting to coordinate between leads | 09:11 |
| amorin | I have the feeling that openinfralive webcasts need more preparation to have a full episode correctly set | 09:12 |
| ttx | I feel like we have a lot of users that have good stories to tell but are not active on IRC or the mailing-lists | 09:12 |
| amorin | zoom meetings could be an idea | 09:12 |
| ttx | So we could try a thing where we set up a Zoom call with a guest star (a specific user we'd like to get more involved) where they share their story and then have bidirectional Q&A with whoever shows up | 09:14 |
| amorin | ok, sounds good to me | 09:14 |
| ttx | we set it up at a time that is convenient for the core crew and the guest star, then promote it on the ML | 09:14 |
| amorin | do you already have in mind your guest star? | 09:14 |
| ttx | i have a few from recent interactions - Nxtgen Cloud, Samsung, Hyundai, Reliance Jio | 09:15 |
| amorin | cool | 09:15 |
| ttx | Geico would be nice etc. | 09:16 |
| ttx | Agree that would not be as heavyweight as an openinfra live. We could still "record" it for offline consumption but we would not push it to youtube | 09:17 |
| ttx | ideally participants would find enough value to it to end up being regular attendees of the future zoom calls | 09:18 |
| ttx | just brainstorming out loud | 09:18 |
| amorin | yes, if we should let everybody know about the fact that this will be more a discussion rather than a prepared meeting | 09:18 |
| ttx | yes | 09:19 |
| ttx | OK, I'll give it a bit more thought, and post a proposal on the ML | 09:20 |
| amorin | ok | 09:20 |
| ttx | Alright, any other ideas or changes for the next cycle? If we do that i feel like monthly IRC meeting at the currentt ime can continue | 09:22 |
| ttx | no need for more often or time rotation as much | 09:22 |
| amorin | agree, maybe I can reach out to felixhuettner[m] to make sure that works for him also | 09:22 |
| ttx | yes | 09:23 |
| ttx | I'll see if it still makes sense to do a "operating GPU cloud" episode in the near future -- could be organized as part of a campaign to show openstack is a good fit for GPU clouds, but I'm not sure we should necessarily be the main organizers | 09:24 |
| amorin | ok, let us know! | 09:24 |
| ttx | ok, next topic | 09:24 |
| frickler | wasn't that GPU episode already scheduled? or was it canceled? | 09:25 |
| ttx | It's not scheduled yet, still hunting for participants | 09:25 |
| ttx | #topic Large scale doc | 09:25 |
| ttx | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/large-scale+status:open | 09:26 |
| ttx | List is empty, so nothing up for review | 09:26 |
| ttx | In the new format we can use the meeting as a funnel into new doc contributions, as a next step of engagement | 09:26 |
| amorin | agree | 09:27 |
| ttx | If we do it right, the SIG becomes a path through which large scale users get more directly involved in the community | 09:27 |
| ttx | because what I'm seeing right now is vvery successful and large deployments of openstack that are completely invisible upstream, and there is a risk in that | 09:28 |
| ttx | and when I tell them, would you like to share your details with fellow large scale operators thay are like "of course!" | 09:28 |
| ttx | sometimes they only need some nudging | 09:29 |
| ttx | and may realize that they have a lot to gain in participating more directly | 09:29 |
| ttx | #topic Next meeting | 09:30 |
| ttx | Our next meetign is scheduled for... Oct 16 | 09:30 |
| amorin | I should be there | 09:30 |
| ttx | #action ttx to solidify the Epoxy activity proposal and post it on the mailing-list | 09:31 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 09:31 |
| ttx | anything else ? | 09:31 |
| amorin | nothing here | 09:32 |
| ttx | alright. Thanks for joining! | 09:34 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 09:34 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Sep 18 09:34:20 2024 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:34 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2024/large_scale_sig.2024-09-18-09.00.html | 09:34 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2024/large_scale_sig.2024-09-18-09.00.txt | 09:34 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2024/large_scale_sig.2024-09-18-09.00.log.html | 09:34 |
| amorin | thanks! | 09:34 |
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