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| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Update _CLOSED_SERIES set https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/849115 | 12:03 |
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| elodilles | reminder: weekly meeting is about to start in 30 mins | 13:30 |
| opendevreview | Lajos Katona proposed openstack/releases master: Create EOL tags for neutron-vpnaas train and ussuri branches https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/843167 | 13:37 |
| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: WIP: Proposed release schedule for Antelope (26w) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/850753 | 13:58 |
| elodilles | oh, it's time | 14:00 |
| elodilles | let's start | 14:00 |
| elodilles | #startmeeting releaseteam | 14:01 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Fri Jul 22 14:01:06 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is elodilles. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 14:01 |
| elodilles | Ping list: armstrong ttx hberaud diablo_rojo_phone | 14:01 |
| elodilles | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/zed-relmgt-tracking | 14:01 |
| elodilles | we are a bit further down than the middle @ line 228 | 14:01 |
| elodilles | hmm, folks are on summer vacation as it seems :) | 14:04 |
| fungi | sounds like a good idea ;) | 14:05 |
| elodilles | let's run through the agenda to have some logs about the tasks | 14:05 |
| elodilles | fungi: yepp, indeed, i was planning it myself, too, but was lazy to do that, so here i am :D | 14:05 |
| elodilles | maybe i'll take some days off next week :] | 14:06 |
| elodilles | anyway, let's start | 14:06 |
| fungi | i know what you mean. i've been forgetting to take time off ever since this pandemic started (and even before, i'm sure) | 14:06 |
| elodilles | :S | 14:06 |
| elodilles | exactly like that... | 14:06 |
| elodilles | #topic Review task completion | 14:07 |
| elodilles | 1st task: ' Review any remaining milestone-2 exceptions (all)' | 14:07 |
| elodilles | all the remaining patches were merged ( https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:zed-milestone-2 ) | 14:07 |
| elodilles | \o/ | 14:07 |
| elodilles | 2nd task: ' Reach out to project teams that have never-released deliverables and ask if they are ready to be included in Zed (or prefer to wait, or should be dropped). (elod)' | 14:08 |
| fungi | seems like skyline got their pypi projects fixed up so they can release? | 14:08 |
| elodilles | this was technically the continuation of R-13 week's task about deliverables vs governance project list consistency check task | 14:08 |
| elodilles | fungi: yepp, they fixed it and ready to release | 14:09 |
| elodilles | with the help of ttx (thanks!) skyline team managed to merge their patch | 14:10 |
| elodilles | from venus team i got no answer (July 22nd) but patch was proposed: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/850129 | 14:10 |
| elodilles | this needs some work still, but hopefully will be updated & merged, not like last cycle | 14:11 |
| elodilles | i'll keep an eye on it | 14:11 |
| elodilles | for the panko patch ( https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/850005 ) | 14:12 |
| elodilles | i've proposed a fix in python-pankoclient repo: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-pankoclient/+/850750 | 14:12 |
| elodilles | after that the validator should pass | 14:12 |
| elodilles | but this one has no deadline anyway | 14:13 |
| elodilles | so only venus team's deliverables is the one which needs attention | 14:13 |
| elodilles | otherwise we are good with this task too | 14:14 |
| elodilles | last task was: ' Plan the next release cycle schedule (elod, armstrong)' | 14:14 |
| elodilles | 1st of all: we have the name for the next cycle: Antelope \o/ | 14:15 |
| fungi | thanks aprice and everyone else involved! | 14:15 |
| elodilles | indeed, thanks for managing the process! \o/ | 14:16 |
| elodilles | (i was searching for the mail meanwhile) | 14:17 |
| elodilles | #info Antelope is the next cycle's name -- https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-July/029672.html | 14:17 |
| elodilles | and back to the task | 14:18 |
| elodilles | unfortunately armstrong had some emergency issue with hospital visiting involved :S hope everything is OK there! | 14:18 |
| fungi | yeah, hope all is well | 14:19 |
| elodilles | so i've started the planning myself: | 14:19 |
| elodilles | WIP patch proposed (26 weeks long) for Antelope cycle: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/850753 | 14:19 |
| fungi | see inline comments, i think the doc build failure is because parameters have to come immediately after directives, you can't have an empty line between them | 14:20 |
| elodilles | the planned release date is 05 April, 2023 | 14:20 |
| elodilles | fungi: thanks | 14:21 |
| fungi | so it's thinking the parameter is supposed to be content, and that directive doesn't allow content, hence the rather strange error message | 14:21 |
| elodilles | the date is just before Easter | 14:21 |
| elodilles | fungi: ack, i'll update the patch soon :) | 14:23 |
| elodilles | thanks for the pointers | 14:23 |
| fungi | np | 14:23 |
| elodilles | nevertheless, the question is about the release date and milestones | 14:23 |
| elodilles | maybe the release date should be one week earlier | 14:24 |
| elodilles | considering Easter... | 14:24 |
| fungi | yeah, easter is 4 days later | 14:25 |
| elodilles | on the other hand i thought this fits just before it, and '26 weeks' is also a good length | 14:25 |
| fungi | passover also starts on the 5th | 14:25 |
| elodilles | hmmm, then it is also not that good | 14:26 |
| elodilles | i've tried to see different cultures different holidays but wasn't sure which are bank holidays | 14:27 |
| elodilles | i don't think we should have longer than 26 weeks long cycle, | 14:28 |
| fungi | if we're hoping to make the release more "visible" then after easter/passover could work better. releasing right before, much less on, a holiday people are likely to file the info away and then forget about it while they're enjoying time off | 14:28 |
| elodilles | but then i'll propose a 25 week long schedule as well and folk can vote | 14:28 |
| fungi | i can also check with foundation marketing folks and see if they think there might be a good "sweet spot" week in the calendar for improving our audience reach with the announcement | 14:30 |
| elodilles | hmmm, so you vote for longer schedule, which should be then around 28 weeks long, since there is Easter + holidays | 14:30 |
| elodilles | fungi: ack, that would be awesome! thanks for doing that! | 14:31 |
| fungi | yw | 14:31 |
| elodilles | let me know when there is an answer and i'll update the plan accordingly | 14:31 |
| elodilles | #agreed fungi will check with foundation marketing folks if they have a preference about the release date | 14:32 |
| elodilles | fungi: ^^^ marked it, otherwise i might forget it o:) | 14:32 |
| fungi | thanks. i've already asked them, but there may be some delay in getting feedback | 14:33 |
| elodilles | of course, they have to think it through as well | 14:33 |
| fungi | either they'll add comments to the review or i'll quote them there myself | 14:34 |
| elodilles | fungi: ++, sounds perfect | 14:34 |
| elodilles | okay, this is on track so let's move on with the topic | 14:35 |
| elodilles | #topic Assign R-9 tasks | 14:35 |
| elodilles | i've added my name to the tasks :) | 14:35 |
| elodilles | #topic Open Discussion | 14:36 |
| elodilles | for starter, i had a quick topic: 'Skip next week's (R-10) meeting?' | 14:36 |
| elodilles | as there is summer as we can see + there is no listed tasks for R-10 anyway for release team | 14:37 |
| elodilles | given the low number of attendants of this meeting i think this is a sign that we can skip :) | 14:38 |
| fungi | i'm doing my best not to let you get lonely! | 14:39 |
| elodilles | thanks fungi o:) | 14:39 |
| elodilles | anything to mention here under 'Open Discussion' topic? | 14:40 |
| fungi | i have nothing, no | 14:40 |
| elodilles | thanks, then let's end this meeting! :) | 14:41 |
| elodilles | thanks for participating fungi ! :) | 14:41 |
| elodilles | #endmeeting | 14:41 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Fri Jul 22 14:41:37 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:41 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/releaseteam/2022/releaseteam.2022-07-22-14.01.html | 14:41 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/releaseteam/2022/releaseteam.2022-07-22-14.01.txt | 14:41 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/releaseteam/2022/releaseteam.2022-07-22-14.01.log.html | 14:41 |
| fungi | any time! | 14:41 |
| elodilles | :) | 14:46 |
| elodilles | it's better to talk to someone, otherwise schizophrenia would take over on me :D | 14:46 |
| fungi | heh | 14:51 |
| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: WIP: Proposed release schedule for Antelope (26w) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/850753 | 14:55 |
| elodilles | fungi: you were right about the patch, the empty line was the problem | 14:55 |
| fungi | awesome. it was just a guess | 14:55 |
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| fungi | elodilles: see updated comments for pointers on the new doc build failure, and also feedback from foundation marketing folks | 15:26 |
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| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: WIP: Proposed release schedule for Antelope (26w) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/850753 | 15:54 |
| elodilles | fungi: i've accidentally run tox with the wrong target, but fixed the issues after i realized :S ^^^ | 15:55 |
| elodilles | fungi: thanks for the comments, will update the patch now according to it! | 15:55 |
| fungi | it's my pleasure, as always! | 15:55 |
| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Proposed release schedule for Antelope (25w) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/850753 | 16:41 |
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| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Proposed release schedule for Antelope (25w) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/850753 | 17:15 |
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