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| zaneb | o/ | 01:00 |
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| evrardjp | o/ | 07:27 |
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| lpetrut | ttx: Hi, I had a chat with my team and we'd like to keep the winstackers team, if this option is still available. A SIG would probably not be the best option for us, mostly because of the associated projects, which other teams may not be willing to adopt. | 12:46 |
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| lpetrut | ttx: I'm interested in taking the PTL role, considering that Claudiu's time is limited these days as he's working on some other projects. | 12:48 |
| lpetrut | we're really sorry for getting into this situation | 12:49 |
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| cloudnull | o/ | 12:57 |
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| asettle | o/ | 13:16 |
| asettle | lpetrut, no problem. It would be best if you could firstly reply to Doug's email regarding the winstackers team | 13:16 |
| asettle | Then I am happy to propose you to become PTL for winstackers in the governance repo. I'll share the link with you shortly | 13:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexandra Settle proposed openstack/governance master: Appointing Lucian Petrut as winstackers PTL https://review.opendev.org/681469 | 13:20 |
| asettle | lpetrut, ^^ | 13:20 |
| njohnston | o/ | 13:21 |
| asettle | lpetrut, I have also -1 on this patch: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/680439/2 | 13:21 |
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| gmann | lpetrut: thanks for stepping up. | 13:27 |
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| gmann | asettle: you need to put 681469 on top of 680507 | 13:28 |
| asettle | gmann, ah nang, thanks | 13:32 |
| lpetrut | asettle: thanks! | 13:32 |
| asettle | conflicts abounds | 13:32 |
| * asettle throws hands in the air | 13:32 | |
| asettle | gmann, I have to finish something off, thanks for pointing this out. I will get back to it. | 13:33 |
| asettle | (deadlines deadlines) | 13:33 |
| gmann | sure, no hurry :) | 13:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/governance master: Add documentation owners investment opportunity for 2019 https://review.opendev.org/681480 | 13:42 |
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| ttx | lpetrut: I agree that with the os-win corner case you are in the grey area, so happy to follow whatever you prefer | 13:58 |
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| lpetrut | thanks, we really appreciate the support we got from the openstack community | 14:10 |
| asettle | Allllllright time to fix thattttt | 14:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexandra Settle proposed openstack/governance master: Appointing Lucian Petrut as winstackers PTL https://review.opendev.org/681491 | 14:17 |
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| asettle | gmann, let me know if there's any issues | 14:18 |
| gmann | asettle: need to add 'appointed' also, commented | 14:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexandra Settle proposed openstack/governance master: Appointing Lucian Petrut as winstackers PTL https://review.opendev.org/681491 | 14:22 |
| mnaser | was there a recording for the meeting yesterday? i had to drop out halfway through | 14:39 |
| mnaser | or did the slides every make it the foundation ML? | 14:39 |
| mnaser | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/foundation-board/2019-September/thread.html | 14:39 |
| mnaser | i dont see them here | 14:39 |
| asettle | mnaser, I was unable to attend so I'd like to see them too | 14:40 |
| asettle | But haven't seen anything | 14:40 |
| mugsie | mnaser: there is not usually a recording - offically the meeting record is not public until the board votes on the minute at the next meeting | 14:41 |
| smcginnis | mnaser: I don't believe it was recorded, but official meeting minutes are usually published within a day or two. | 14:41 |
| mugsie | smcginnis: only to the board-private list afaik | 14:41 |
| smcginnis | Well, official recap, not actual minutes I guess. | 14:41 |
| smcginnis | I'll watch for anything public. | 14:42 |
| mugsie | I haven't seen a link to slides, but I doubt they will be published | 14:42 |
| smcginnis | I usually try to blog an update once the "stay quiet until it's official" period has passed. | 14:42 |
| smcginnis | The slides were sent out to the private mailing list, but I don't think there really was anything sensitive in them. You could probably ask jbryce for a copy. | 14:43 |
| mugsie | yeah, I think they just wouldn't be widely published - if it was sensitive, all us onlookers would have been shown the door :) | 14:43 |
| mnaser | i just wanted to go through the slides for the stuff i missed out on | 14:44 |
| mnaser | i'll try to pester people for a copy sometime later :) | 14:44 |
| mugsie | mnaser: what point did you drop off? | 14:44 |
| smcginnis | Was just going to ask that. :) | 14:44 |
| smcginnis | It wasn't a long slide deck, so possible you saw the majority of it. | 14:45 |
| mnaser | right after the smcginnis vote :) | 14:45 |
| smcginnis | Then you rage quit? :) | 14:45 |
| mnaser | stomach hungry quit :p | 14:45 |
| asettle | smcginnis, vote went well, I hope? | 14:46 |
| smcginnis | asettle: Yes, thanks. Everyone was OK with me finishing out the term. | 14:46 |
| fungi | yeah, when jbryce said he sent the slides to "the board mailing list" i assumed he meant foundation-board@ which is public, but never saw them show up there. i guess he meant foundation-board-private@ | 14:46 |
| mugsie | oh. you didn;'t really miss anything then - it was joining that other org as a affiliate, approving the refstack guidelines, and brief india "mini-summit" update | 14:46 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Yep, that's where they went. | 14:46 |
| smcginnis | OW2 | 14:47 |
| smcginnis | Very, very brief India update. | 14:47 |
| fungi | (which is an unfortunate thing to refer to as "the board mailing list" especially in light of the work the transparency committee did to open things up years ago) | 14:47 |
| asettle | smcginnis, fabulous news :D | 14:48 |
| mnaser | mugsie: ok thanks, that's probably enough, i was wondering a little bit more about the events and if anything more came out of that | 14:50 |
| smcginnis | Not really. I think the purpose for now was to introduce the idea and make sure it wasn't a big surprise. | 14:51 |
| asettle | it's... not... fabulous... news? | 14:51 |
| smcginnis | asettle: All future summits will now be in Australia. | 14:51 |
| smcginnis | jk | 14:51 |
| asettle | It's currently on fire so provided it's still there, sounds good | 14:52 |
| smcginnis | Oh really? Hadn't heard. More massive fires? | 14:52 |
| asettle | Huge :( up near where I live(d) | 14:52 |
| asettle | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-australia-49663869/australia-fires-bodycam-footage-shows-queensland-evacuations | 14:52 |
| asettle | Really, really scary shit | 14:52 |
| smcginnis | Dang! | 14:53 |
| asettle | Yeah :( | 14:53 |
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| mnaser | tc-members: i'm going to continue chair activites until we figure out the chair thing | 15:43 |
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| mnaser | i'd appreciate if y'all voted on the chair patches (or we setup an election or something) so we can move forward with that | 15:44 |
| asettle | mnaser, would be best to do it in the patches, I think. It's hard because we do have some newbies. | 15:46 |
| asettle | mnaser, I'd be happy to coordinate (as a third party) instructions on how to vote, why, and what this means | 15:46 |
| asettle | Unless you don't see that as necessary? | 15:46 |
| asettle | evrardjp ^^ | 15:47 |
| mugsie | tc-members: also remember - anyone can run for the chair, and if you are interested in running, time is rapidly running out :) | 15:52 |
| smcginnis | https://media1.giphy.com/media/KtyyYEOcPA2Ri/giphy.gif | 15:53 |
| mnaser | right, that's also something i wanted to make sure that we didn't leave someone out of this | 15:54 |
| mnaser | generally this has not happened before so it's about figuring out a cutoff deadline or so | 15:54 |
| mnaser | but also given that i'm running i don't think i should be having much of a say in all of this :) | 15:54 |
| asettle | smcginnis, actually fucking laughed hahahahahahah | 15:54 |
| smcginnis | :) | 15:55 |
| asettle | Didn't expect. SURPRISE ending | 15:55 |
| zaneb | do we have a timeline documented for nominations? | 15:56 |
| * zaneb is not running, for the record | 15:56 | |
| mugsie | mnaser: lets say 23:59 UTC tomorrow? I can email the ML and highlight it now? | 15:56 |
| asettle | zaneb, GET AMONGST IT MAN | 15:56 |
| asettle | A chair for you, a chair for me, chair for everyone! | 15:56 |
| asettle | mugsie, for the newbies - might be worthwhile pointing to the chair stuff etc so they know exactly what they're voting for | 15:57 |
| mugsie | asettle: ++ | 15:57 |
| mugsie | mnaser: sound OK for you? | 15:57 |
| mugsie | zaneb: I don't think we have a documented process | 15:57 |
| zaneb | we should probably have something documented, since leaving time for nominations is something we have to do after every election, not just when there are already multiple candidates | 15:58 |
| mugsie | :) | 15:58 |
| mnaser | https://opendev.org/openstack/governance/src/branch/master/CHAIR.rst | 15:58 |
| mnaser | thats the docs for chair | 15:58 |
| zaneb | (set a deadline, ~1 week) | 15:59 |
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| asettle | Okay mnaser but mugsie is asking about coordinating the votes and ensuring everyone is informed :) | 15:59 |
| zaneb | whoops, wrong section | 15:59 |
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| mnaser | right, but someone asked about "pointing to chair stuff so they know what they're voting for" :) | 15:59 |
| asettle | mnaser, indeedy that was I. But I was suggesting mugsie included that in his email, not requesting it :) | 16:00 |
| mnaser | i dont think it has to be a week unless zaneb meant to post that somewhere else | 16:00 |
| mnaser | i think the proposed timeline is ok | 16:00 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: haha on the gif | 16:00 |
| zaneb | mnaser: yeah, my bad, I accidentally scrolled to the wrong section of the doc and saw that | 16:00 |
| zaneb | so yes, there's no timeframe documented | 16:00 |
| mnaser | nope | 16:01 |
| zaneb | that doc seems like a good place to add one | 16:01 |
| mnaser | also i assume everyone is cool with me carrying on these activities till the election time | 16:01 |
| zaneb | +1 | 16:01 |
| mnaser | if not then i can leave those aside till we decide :) | 16:01 |
| mugsie | yeah, it makes sense | 16:01 |
| mnaser | TheJulia: mind giving a ptl+1 here? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/679816/ | 16:02 |
| zaneb | it does say we should vote using CIVS, so that answers a question I had yesterday :) | 16:02 |
| mugsie | mnaser: TheJuliais out on PTO, and delegated PTL to Dmitry | 16:03 |
| mnaser | Oh sorry I missed that | 16:03 |
| mugsie | it is in the comments on the patch, the ML msg was linked | 16:04 |
| asettle | mnaser, chair-ing suggestion +1 | 16:06 |
| ttx | re: chair it will be easier to set up a vote... Gerrit is not that great to pick one of many options | 16:12 |
| asettle | Works for me | 16:13 |
| ttx | I mean if its only two I guess we could count the +1s but at the end it's likely to result in a draw as everyone +1s both | 16:14 |
| asettle | True | 16:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Retire networking-generic-switch-tempest-plugin https://review.opendev.org/679816 | 16:16 |
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| njohnston | Newbie question: Is there a good source of info on the TC-liaison-to-projects function and what it entails? The documentation I have seen - like the initiative tracker - all point to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_health_tracker which seems to be defunct. | 16:22 |
| mugsie | njohnston: not really | 16:23 |
| mugsie | things have moved on a bit, and the liason is mainly just reaching out at the start of the cycle to say hello, and let them know they can come to you if there is issues | 16:25 |
| mugsie | or want to get a bit of advice | 16:25 |
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| mugsie | mnaser: email sent, with a timeline | 16:40 |
| mugsie | I am happy to run the poll, seen as you are running | 16:41 |
| njohnston | thanks mugsie! | 16:42 |
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| evrardjp | thanks mugsie | 16:55 |
| evrardjp | our civs expert nowadays | 16:55 |
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| mriedem | fyi, following up on that university mentoring project thing i posted for closing osc feature gaps - the project didn't get staffed for whatever reason so it's a no-go | 17:43 |
| mugsie | mriedem: thanks for following up | 17:48 |
| mugsie | That is unfortunate, but worth trying | 17:48 |
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| fungi | :( | 17:56 |
| fungi | sorry to hear that | 17:56 |
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