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opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Add some PTLs missing irc nick name https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/807897 | 14:41 |
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opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Add Puppet OpenStack project IRC channel name https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/807900 | 14:41 |
gmann | spotz: ianychoi[m] can we merge this so that we can proceed on governance updates https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805918 | 14:42 |
spotz | gmann: wee can merge let me log in | 14:56 |
gmann | spotz: thanks | 14:57 |
spotz | done | 14:57 |
gmann | tc-members: meeting time (on IRC) | 14:59 |
gmann | #startmeeting tc | 15:00 |
opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Sep 9 15:00:04 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'tc' | 15:00 |
diablo_rojo | o/ | 15:00 |
gmann | #topic Roll call | 15:00 |
spotz | \o/ | 15:00 |
dansmith | o/ | 15:00 |
gmann | o/ | 15:00 |
belmoreira | o/ | 15:00 |
yoctozepto | \o/ | 15:00 |
jungleboyj | o/ | 15:00 |
gmann | today agenda #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Agenda_Suggestions | 15:01 |
gmann | let's start | 15:01 |
gmann | #topic Follow up on past action items | 15:01 |
gmann | ricolin to reach out to Adjutant previous PTL and team | 15:01 |
ricolin | o/ | 15:01 |
gmann | we have PTL response and confirmation too. thanks ricolin | 15:02 |
gmann | mnaser add two level project accepting criteria in PTG etherpad | 15:02 |
gmann | that is also done, | 15:02 |
gmann | #topic Gate health check (dansmith/yoctozepto) | 15:02 |
dansmith | I've been seeing a lot of nova fail lately, | 15:02 |
gmann | dansmith: yoctozepto go ahead for gate news | 15:02 |
dansmith | which I think is related to a secondary fix to placement after the consumer types thing | 15:03 |
dansmith | I need to follow up and see if that is getting reviewed | 15:03 |
gmann | ok | 15:03 |
yoctozepto | yeah, I have heard about nova having trouble | 15:03 |
dansmith | other than that I don't know of anything burning | 15:03 |
yoctozepto | but nothing else | 15:03 |
fungi | nova is often the canary in openstack's coalmine | 15:04 |
yoctozepto | (consistent reporting ++) | 15:04 |
gmann | there are psycopg2 import error, i saw in many tempest plugins and tempest gate. but all failing plugins are x/ namespace and now excluded from tempest sanity job until they are fixed | 15:04 |
yoctozepto | I wonder if there are current prod deploys on potsgres | 15:05 |
yoctozepto | postgres* | 15:05 |
yoctozepto | I would bet no | 15:05 |
gmann | may be, I have not debugged those yet | 15:05 |
fungi | it would be good to get any of those x/ namespace repos which are abandoned more properly cleaned up, if we have ways to get in touch with their former maintainers to confirm | 15:05 |
yoctozepto | (current meaning ussuri+) | 15:05 |
gmann | sure | 15:06 |
gmann | any other news/udpates? | 15:06 |
gmann | #topic Xena Tracker | 15:06 |
gmann | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-xena-tracker | 15:06 |
opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Update README for correct location and close out Yoga election https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805918 | 15:06 |
gmann | let's go through the remaining items in tracker | 15:06 |
gmann | for Audit and finish the previous cycle pending community-wide goal work | 15:07 |
gmann | I pushed all remaining patches for contribution guide and only 3-4 remaining to merge. this is all done | 15:07 |
gmann | Review the tags for usefulness and cleanup. Based on what left, make a decision on whether to continue the tag framework based or not. | 15:08 |
gmann | yoctozepto: jungleboyj ^^ | 15:08 |
jungleboyj | :-) | 15:08 |
yoctozepto | yeah, I have worked on that this week | 15:08 |
gmann | I think we have separate topic on this. | 15:08 |
gmann | great | 15:08 |
yoctozepto | we have | 15:08 |
gmann | let's discuss in that, thakns | 15:08 |
gmann | thanks | 15:08 |
gmann | Getting projects to broadast out/mentor | 15:08 |
jungleboyj | ++ | 15:08 |
gmann | spotz: belmoreira ^^ | 15:08 |
spotz | I'll work with belmoreira about ours next week | 15:08 |
belmoreira | +1 | 15:09 |
gmann | great, thanks | 15:09 |
gmann | Stable core team process change | 15:09 |
gmann | jungleboyj: mnaser ^^ | 15:09 |
spotz | I have it all together just need to write it up, get emails, etc | 15:09 |
gmann | spotz: +1 | 15:09 |
gmann | spotz: belmoreira please update in etherpad too once you send | 15:09 |
spotz | will do | 15:10 |
gmann | thanks | 15:10 |
gmann | back to 'Stable core team process change' | 15:10 |
gmann | this is important one | 15:11 |
gmann | mnaser: jungleboyj please let me know if something is up or you are planning to | 15:11 |
jungleboyj | mnaser: Haven't gotten to that one yet. | 15:11 |
gmann | ok, let's check later. I think mnaser mentioned he will push something soon | 15:12 |
gmann | 'Project Health checks' | 15:13 |
gmann | ricolin: belmoreira ^^ | 15:13 |
gmann | this is one of the things to remove the TC liaison things. | 15:13 |
jungleboyj | gmann: Right, he was planning to do something so that is why I hadn't done anything. | 15:13 |
gmann | jungleboyj: ack. thanks | 15:13 |
gmann | but for Yoga, I think we need to continue TC liaison and keep discussing in Yoga PTG or if we cna have project health check framework up. | 15:14 |
belmoreira_ | sorry, got disconnected | 15:14 |
ricolin | gmann, sorry didn't got time to work on it last week | 15:14 |
ricolin | will make something next week | 15:15 |
gmann | np, please update etherpad once done. | 15:15 |
ricolin | NP | 15:15 |
gmann | ricolin: belmoreira_ I think if we can have something up before PTG then it will be good to discuss about TC liaison still needed or not | 15:15 |
gmann | thanks | 15:15 |
jungleboyj | Agreed. | 15:16 |
belmoreira_ | sure | 15:16 |
gmann | #topic Leaderless projects | 15:16 |
diablo_rojo | Makes sense to me. | 15:16 |
gmann | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/yoga-leaderless | 15:16 |
yoctozepto | \o/ no leaderless projects \o/ | 15:16 |
gmann | now PTL election are also closed | 15:16 |
diablo_rojo | Woohoo! | 15:16 |
gmann | and we found all leaders also for leaderless | 15:16 |
yoctozepto | which is good but some cases are rather unhealthy | 15:17 |
spotz | woohoo | 15:17 |
yoctozepto | we will discuss more on quality during ptg | 15:17 |
gmann | yeah, missing deadline cases are something we should discuss and how to improve those | 15:17 |
jungleboyj | \o/ | 15:17 |
diablo_rojo | Yeah I am still a little.. worried about zun | 15:17 |
yoctozepto | (tbh, I like adopting the CNCF approach with different maturity levels) | 15:18 |
jungleboyj | Yeah, that is a good topic to discuss further. | 15:18 |
gmann | yeah | 15:18 |
diablo_rojo | For example? | 15:18 |
yoctozepto | diablo_rojo: oh, yes, you were missing from our call, apologies :-) | 15:18 |
gmann | L 78 https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-yoga-ptg | 15:19 |
gmann | let's discuss in PTG which will directly related to these leaderless projects every cycle. | 15:19 |
diablo_rojo | yoctozepto, yeah I was. | 15:20 |
diablo_rojo | And the notes are much harder to read than meeting logs. | 15:20 |
gmann | recording ? :) | 15:21 |
yoctozepto | yeah, the experience was great but the trace was miserable except for the recording | 15:21 |
diablo_rojo | Yeah I havent found the time/attention span to listen to the recording yet. | 15:21 |
gmann | anyways we have separate topic on that, let's discuss that time | 15:21 |
yoctozepto | anyhow, the link from gmann should clarify enough for now | 15:21 |
yoctozepto | ++ | 15:21 |
spotz | They were at least semi-complete. For te monthly video RDO call oouor notes are not great | 15:21 |
gmann | anything else on this topic, leaderless projects ? | 15:22 |
diablo_rojo | Nope. | 15:22 |
gmann | #topic New project application: 'Venus | 15:22 |
gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/804824 | 15:22 |
gmann | this is good to merge, but i will open it until our meeting in case any one want to comment/vote | 15:22 |
yoctozepto | until which meeting? | 15:23 |
yoctozepto | you mean ptg? | 15:23 |
gmann | this meeting :) | 15:23 |
yoctozepto | haha, ok | 15:23 |
gmann | sorry for unclear | 15:23 |
gmann | #topic Next step on pain points from projects/SIGs/pop-up (ricolin) | 15:23 |
gmann | ricolin: anything to discuss on this further or we take it in PTG as disucssed ? | 15:24 |
ricolin | I think we should take this to PTG | 15:24 |
gmann | cool. | 15:24 |
ricolin | will collect some feedback before PTG | 15:24 |
gmann | ricolin: so I will remove it from next week meeting agenda ? | 15:24 |
ricolin | gmann, +1 | 15:25 |
gmann | sounds good. | 15:25 |
diablo_rojo | That works. | 15:25 |
yoctozepto | sounds good to me as well | 15:25 |
gmann | #action gmann to remove projects pain points from next weekly meeting agenda | 15:25 |
gmann | #topic TC tags analysis | 15:25 |
gmann | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18GXibtdQnSkIwA7DsBvX9dPwbw9JH76AhhRUknzBb3Q/edit | 15:25 |
gmann | yoctozepto: go ahead | 15:25 |
yoctozepto | so I have finally sat down to this to summarise the current usage of tags | 15:26 |
yoctozepto | the goal is to determine which (if any) are useful and whether we want to continue this framework | 15:26 |
jungleboyj | yoctozepto: Thank you. Looks good. | 15:26 |
yoctozepto | jungleboyj: thanks :-) | 15:27 |
yoctozepto | the spreadsheet starts with a simple yes/no table per project | 15:27 |
yoctozepto | there are notes in the other tabs | 15:27 |
gmann | and only 22 projects care of these and rest are not interested or not eligible | 15:27 |
yoctozepto | one point to note this is simplified to projects and not deliverables (while tags are technically per deliverable) | 15:27 |
yoctozepto | yes | 15:27 |
gmann | ok | 15:28 |
yoctozepto | and it does not seem overly clean whether the proper tags are applied | 15:28 |
yoctozepto | also, some seem to overpromise what the tag means | 15:28 |
gmann | yoctozepto: thanks, how we can get their usage data/value too? who use them and if they are valuable for them ? | 15:28 |
yoctozepto | (though this was obviously discovered by accident) | 15:28 |
fungi | right, that distinction becomes rather important for the vulnerability:managed tag, for example... not all deliverables for a given team have vmt oversight | 15:28 |
jungleboyj | Have we used the maintenance-mode tag in recent history? | 15:29 |
gmann | fungi: and those team (not vmt tag) does not have/reported security bugs ? | 15:29 |
diablo_rojo | jungleboyj, seems like not lol | 15:30 |
fungi | gmann: the deliverables without vulnerability:managed are expected to have their vulnerability reports handled directly by the team who maintains that deliverable (though the vmt often helps out) | 15:30 |
gmann | jungleboyj: not sure, hope it is not documentation issue like yoctozepto fixed for standalone tag | 15:30 |
yoctozepto | gmann: hard to tell; I was thinking about just reaching out to the community via the mailing list BUT the usual problem arises - operators don't read it that often but the tags are meant to be for them | 15:30 |
yoctozepto | jungleboyj, gmann, diablo_rojo: it was used | 15:30 |
gmann | fungi: i see. | 15:30 |
yoctozepto | see in legacy projects | 15:31 |
jungleboyj | yoctozepto: Ok, I thought it was used at one point but it appears we have forgotten about it. | 15:31 |
yoctozepto | gmann: continuing on value: based on my own experience - operators don't even know this thing exists | 15:31 |
diablo_rojo | yoctozepto, but not on current ones? | 15:31 |
yoctozepto | diablo_rojo: nope, 0 as the table says | 15:31 |
yoctozepto | the table is correct except for if my mouse clicked a number away so it could end up in a close-by column :D | 15:32 |
diablo_rojo | yoctozepto, right that's what I recalled. I wonder if it *ever* has been used, or what the last project was. | 15:32 |
gmann | yoctozepto: yeah, may be including it in user survey or ask in PTG ? | 15:32 |
yoctozepto | I already fixed one issue like that; need to learn mouse usage; or rather touchpad | 15:32 |
fungi | what's really fun is that the entire tags concept was started based on feedback from operators, and they were expected to drive a lot of it | 15:32 |
gmann | yoctozepto: jungleboyj we have this topic in PTG also right? | 15:32 |
yoctozepto | diablo_rojo: yeah, I said that project is in legacy | 15:32 |
yoctozepto | forgot the name | 15:32 |
opendevreview | Merged openstack/governance master: Update projects.yaml for Yoga PTLs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/807858 | 15:33 |
yoctozepto | fungi: yeah, I know the drill | 15:33 |
yoctozepto | gmann: PTG yes we have | 15:33 |
jungleboyj | I also think that people don't even know about this. | 15:33 |
gmann | yoctozepto: let's get the usage data also from operator on ML and we will see if any response on that. | 15:33 |
yoctozepto | gmann: user survey is too slow to get this info I think | 15:33 |
gmann | yoctozepto: agree, I think we might be able to add in next year one | 15:33 |
yoctozepto | ok, then I send a respective mail now that we have some baseline understanding | 15:33 |
diablo_rojo | yoctozepto, oh yeah I missed that sorry. Makes sense. | 15:33 |
dansmith | fungi: but that was "to determine which projects we might want to deploy" or "choose between two alternatives" right? | 15:34 |
gmann | perfect, and we can discuss both data usage/projects-applying it PTG | 15:34 |
dansmith | basically not deploying a project that isn't going to be stable long-term, or manage vulnerabilities, or whatever | 15:34 |
yoctozepto | gmann: there are some quality issues with the tags and I worry posting such a question to the survey might be suggesting they are golden standard | 15:34 |
gmann | #action yoctozepto to send email to openstack-discuss about getting usage data of TC tags | 15:34 |
dansmith | I think the goal was noble, but it's just not really a thing now | 15:34 |
jungleboyj | True. | 15:35 |
yoctozepto | dansmith: yeah, the "market" worked differently | 15:35 |
fungi | dansmith: yes | 15:35 |
gmann | belmoreira_: how about in CERN, do you guys consider/check those ? | 15:36 |
fungi | i would argue the operators interested in using tags to determine whether they wanted to run certain services never followed through | 15:36 |
dansmith | fungi: agree | 15:36 |
jungleboyj | fungi: agree | 15:36 |
yoctozepto | ++ | 15:36 |
yoctozepto | ok, so the mail will be mostly a formality I guess :P | 15:36 |
yoctozepto | but will do nonetheless | 15:37 |
belmoreira_ | well, honestly tags don't say much to make a decision to run a service | 15:37 |
gmann | yoctozepto: not sure, may be you get answers :) | 15:37 |
fungi | and not to be cynical, but sometimes problems are raised more to serve as an excuse for why something is hard or isn't being done, and solving that problem inconveniently takes away the excuse | 15:37 |
jungleboyj | yoctozepto: Will be interesting. | 15:37 |
yoctozepto | gmann: you are always such an optimist! :D | 15:37 |
gmann | yoctozepto: heh | 15:37 |
gmann | anyways, let's go with the ML and then we can decide in PTG about it | 15:38 |
gmann | thanks yoctozepto for getting it started | 15:38 |
jungleboyj | ++ | 15:38 |
yoctozepto | ok, then action is here and the point can be removed from the agenda | 15:38 |
gmann | anything else on this ? I will keep it for next meeting too at least if any response on ML | 15:38 |
yoctozepto | ah, ok | 15:38 |
yoctozepto | (optimist) | 15:38 |
gmann | yoctozepto: let's keep it in case any more response. | 15:38 |
gmann | :P | 15:38 |
gmann | ok moving next ? | 15:39 |
yoctozepto | I agree | 15:39 |
gmann | #topic TC Video call feedback & plan | 15:39 |
jungleboyj | Onward and Upward | 15:39 |
gmann | we had our first video call last week. | 15:40 |
gmann | It definitely need more improvement | 15:40 |
diablo_rojo | Speaking from the standpoint of someone that missed it... not a fan lol. | 15:40 |
gmann | some feedback are here #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-video-meeting-feedback | 15:40 |
jungleboyj | :-) | 15:40 |
gmann | audio and network issue came up but i think we can improve those. | 15:40 |
gmann | i will use headphone next time :) | 15:41 |
jungleboyj | mnaser: Needs to stay at hotels with better wifi. ;-) | 15:41 |
spotz | hehe | 15:41 |
gmann | as we discussed, we will continue it until PTG and then we will take call to continue it or not | 15:41 |
fungi | the primary reason google meet was recommended for that, as i understood, was because of its stellar transcription capability. where's the transcript from it? | 15:41 |
gmann | for that, two open question 1. Where we should store the recording ? | 15:42 |
spotz | I don't think it's a bad idea, I think it's a question of whether the transcripts were good enough | 15:42 |
dansmith | fungi: it was posted. it's terrible, but I also think it's the best in class | 15:42 |
spotz | hehe | 15:42 |
fungi | got it. so long as it's useful/usable i guess | 15:42 |
gmann | yeah, not perfect but not so bad too | 15:42 |
yoctozepto | diablo_rojo: xD but I can understand | 15:42 |
gmann | so on recording location, i kept it in my google drive for now but I might not have much space there as i do not have paid plan. | 15:43 |
spotz | gmann: What about in the governance repo? | 15:43 |
jungleboyj | Can you upload it to Youtube? | 15:43 |
yoctozepto | fungi: yeah, it is enough to understand the gist I guess | 15:43 |
diablo_rojo | google meet isn't accessible in china... so it excludes community members that may want to join | 15:43 |
spotz | That's good too, then the logs in repo? | 15:43 |
gmann | jungleboyj: we need to do in foundation channel if we want it on youtube | 15:44 |
jungleboyj | That is where we put all our Cinder meetings ... we have a Cinder channel though. | 15:44 |
gmann | diablo_rojo: yeah but there is no one join TC meeting from china, ricolin can access it as he mentioned/did | 15:44 |
diablo_rojo | jungleboyj, that wasn't hard to setup though | 15:44 |
diablo_rojo | True, there are ways around the firewall gmann but I don't think we should force that on community members. | 15:45 |
gmann | ok, let me check to store in repo | 15:45 |
clarkb | There are varying reports of meetpad accessibility from china too. I suspect that any non blessed conferencing tools have difficulty. Zoom puts servers in china to get the go ahead aiui | 15:45 |
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gmann | I heard zoom has same issue like google meet | 15:45 |
ricolin | gmann, yep, it's also consider unstable tools IMO | 15:46 |
diablo_rojo | I don't thing we should add more barriers to accessibility for a part of our community. | 15:46 |
gmann | and it is same for IRC access too | 15:46 |
clarkb | ah ok the thing I found said "Mainland users need to provide a phone number to verify their identity to join the meeting." but that may not be accurate or reflect service viablity | 15:46 |
spotz | ricolin: zoom is considered unstable? | 15:47 |
ricolin | yep, for some company network, can't really have stable zoom access from China | 15:47 |
fungi | from what i understand, zoom is usable in mainland china as long as people in china connect to the zoom servers in china, since the government has access to monitor those directly for discussions they disapprove of | 15:47 |
gmann | diablo_rojo: definitely, that is why we are doing it monthly and trying it until PTG. and then in PTG we will take final call based on feedback | 15:47 |
spotz | So we'rre basically damned if we do or damned if we don't with either option | 15:47 |
ricolin | and all zoom account from China can't create Zoom meeting room, but that's different | 15:48 |
gmann | yeah | 15:48 |
yoctozepto | oh boy | 15:48 |
gmann | ok, so now continuing on google meet, i need someone help having paid account | 15:49 |
gmann | free version does not allow recording/transcript | 15:49 |
clarkb | ricolin: fwiw I/opendev would probably find it useful if we can get more info on whether or not meetpad works for individuals in china | 15:49 |
clarkb | as we haven't had a very concrete response to that it has all been third hand | 15:50 |
fungi | ricolin: also with clarity around whether it's testing from home connections vs work connections | 15:50 |
spotz | I can do it through RedHat, we already. have a 'room' for the Monthly RDO video meeting so the URL is out there | 15:50 |
ricolin | maybe you can ping horace from China? I ping him to test tools too :) | 15:50 |
ricolin | clarkb, ^^^ | 15:50 |
jungleboyj | ricolin: ++ | 15:50 |
fungi | yeah, we've been getting some help from horace too | 15:50 |
clarkb | yup good idea, he tends to be busy though :) | 15:50 |
gmann | spotz: perfect, thanks. I will get in touch with you for next meeting setup | 15:51 |
clarkb | anyway I don't need to derail the TCs decisions on conferencing | 15:51 |
gmann | clarkb: but that is good if we can get meetpad as better solution :) | 15:51 |
spotz | It's good if we can get the most accessible and useable solutioon:) | 15:51 |
gmann | getting more feedback and then choose better (none is best though) one in PTG | 15:51 |
gmann | yeah | 15:52 |
diablo_rojo | I would feel more comfortable with meetpad than google meet. | 15:52 |
jungleboyj | If you guys have trouble getting Horace to help I know a few people in China who could help. | 15:52 |
fungi | probably our biggest missing feature in meetpad right now is the lack of server-side recording/publishing | 15:52 |
fungi | (jitsi-meet has options for that but we haven't looked into setting them up) | 15:52 |
jungleboyj | I probably could test it myself in fact. Not sure that doing it through VPN is the best approach though. | 15:53 |
gmann | ok | 15:53 |
gmann | #action gmann to add folder or something to store the meeting recording/transcript in governance repo | 15:53 |
gmann | #action spotz to help in google meet setup for next meeting from RDO account. | 15:54 |
gmann | anything else on this topic ? | 15:54 |
diablo_rojo | Nope. | 15:54 |
gmann | #topic Open Reviews | 15:54 |
gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open | 15:55 |
spotz | https://meet.google.com/uzo-tfkt-top :) | 15:55 |
gmann | we have lot of open patches, please review if you have not done yet | 15:55 |
gmann | spotz: thanks, | 15:55 |
gmann | that is all from me today, anything else form anyone ? | 15:55 |
gmann | *from | 15:55 |
gmann | one last thing. | 15:56 |
yoctozepto | nothing from me | 15:56 |
diablo_rojo | Nothing from me | 15:56 |
gmann | we have chair and vice chair nomination, please add your if you are interested or vote on them | 15:56 |
gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/807163 | 15:57 |
gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/807178 | 15:57 |
gmann | ok, thanks all for joining. | 15:57 |
gmann | #endmeeting | 15:57 |
opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Sep 9 15:57:35 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:57 |
opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-09-09-15.00.html | 15:57 |
opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-09-09-15.00.txt | 15:57 |
opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-09-09-15.00.log.html | 15:57 |
yoctozepto | thanks gmann | 15:57 |
jungleboyj | Thank you! | 15:57 |
dansmith | any chance we could just vote for gmann's lifetime appointment as chair? :) | 15:57 |
jungleboyj | :-) | 15:57 |
gmann | dansmith: hehe :) good joke, I am not that good chair, just trying | 15:58 |
diablo_rojo | thanks gmann! | 15:58 |
dansmith | gmann: I would +3 | 15:59 |
yoctozepto | gmann: that means you must understand you are better than you think | 16:00 |
spotz | Thanks gmann | 16:00 |
gmann | yoctozepto: dansmith thanks for the compliment :) | 16:02 |
opendevreview | Merged openstack/governance master: Venus official project status https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/804824 | 16:51 |
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*** akekane__ is now known as abhishekk | 17:39 | |
*** slaweq1 is now known as slaweq | 19:19 |
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