Thursday, 2022-08-18

gmannslaweq: ping14:34
gmanndmendiza[m]: not this week, sorry I was away. we can have next week or anytime if anything to discuss 14:35
gmannelodilles: for runtime, I will propose the testing runtime for 2023.1 early next week. 14:36
gmannelodilles: ack about schedule, will review next week early. 14:36
gmannslaweq:  tc-members: I need to go out today, any volunteer to chair today meeting?14:37
dansmithI'm double-booked so I can't14:37
jungleboyjSame here.  :-(14:37
gmannok, I think slaweq is on PTO?14:38
slaweqgmann: I'm available today14:38
gmannslaweq: nice. can you please chair it?14:38
slaweqsure14:38
gmannslaweq: thanks, just sent the agenda in ML and updated wiki page14:40
slaweqgmann: sure, thx a lot14:40
elodillesgmann: thanks for the runtime patch in advance!14:58
elodillesgmann: about the schedule: it maybe worth to check with the whole TC, what do you think?14:58
slaweq#startmeeting tc15:00
opendevmeetMeeting started Thu Aug 18 15:00:15 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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slaweq#topic Roll call15:00
slaweqo/15:00
diablo_rojoo/15:00
dansmithoj <-- simultaneously on a call15:00
jungleboyjo/15:00
jungleboyjOh, in that case.15:00
jungleboyjoj15:00
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diablo_rojoAll I see is orange juice. 15:01
slaweq:)15:01
rosmaitao/15:01
jungleboyj*Laughing*15:01
slaweqin polish "oj" means something like "ups"15:01
dansmithoj is a head and a headset15:01
spotz[m]o/15:01
slaweqgmann will not be on the meeting today15:02
diablo_rojodansmith: sure, I can see it, but still... orange juice. 15:02
slaweqI'm not sure about knikolla and arne_wiebalck 15:02
arne_wiebalcko/15:02
slaweqok, let's start15:03
slaweq#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee15:03
slaweqthis is agenda for today15:03
arne_wiebalckdansmith: did you just invent this?15:03
slaweq#topic Follow up on past action items15:03
slaweqwe have two items on the list:15:03
slaweqgmann to fill PTG survey and team signup for TC discussions15:03
slaweqas gmann is not here today, I think we can move it to the next week to not forget15:04
jungleboyj++15:04
slaweq#action gmann to fill PTG survey and team signup for TC discussions15:04
slaweqand second one:15:04
slaweqspotz to check with operators about what format they want in virtual PTG. options: 1. join ops hours in the project PTG room and meet/discuss with developer 2. book ops slot in same room/day and ask developer to come to that room and discuss the things15:05
spotz[m]I have the tweet ready to go but got distributed Devconf as I want to send it out on a Monday15:06
knikollao/15:06
spotz[m]Distracted:)15:07
jungleboyjAh, that makes more sense.  :-)15:07
slaweqyeah15:07
* knikolla at devconf too15:07
slaweqspotz: do You want to have same action item for next week?15:07
spotz[m]Oh knikolla let’s meet up!15:07
slaweqto not forget about it15:08
spotz[m]Yes please, I don’t want to post it going into a weekend15:08
slaweq#action spotz to check with operators about what format they want in virtual PTG. options: 1. join ops hours in the project PTG room and meet/discuss with developer 2. book ops slot in same room/day and ask developer to come to that room and discuss the things15:08
knikollaspotz[m]: yes!!!15:08
jungleboyj++15:08
slaweqspotz: thx :)15:08
slaweqok, that were all action items from last week15:09
slaweqlet's move on to the next topic15:09
slaweq#topic Gate health check15:09
diablo_rojoShort list :) 15:09
dansmithno major gate health issues that I know of 15:09
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dansmiththings have been pretty stable lately, AFAICT, but I don't have a large sample size of late15:10
jungleboyjTHat is good news.15:10
slaweqdansmith: I agree15:10
slaweqthat's my observation too15:10
slaweqregarding bare rechecks15:10
slaweqI prepared new data in the etherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/recheck-weekly-summary15:10
clarkbThere have been some issues with ansible + ssh we've noticed. This affects both nested ssh run by jobs and the job running ansible as well.15:11
slaweqand I have some teams which I will be reaching out to in next days15:11
clarkbI think it is related to ssh scanning/brute forcing filling up available slots for unauthenticated ssh connections on the sshd. We updated our image configs yesterday which will take a day or so to roll out15:11
slaweqthx clarkb for the update15:13
slaweqif there is nothing more about gate health, I think we can move on15:16
slaweq#topic 2023.1 cycle PTG Planning 15:16
slaweqin the meeting agenda I see point:15:16
slaweqEncourage projects to schedule 'operator hours' as a separate slot in PTG(avoiding conflicts among other projects 'operator hours')15:16
slaweqwhich is probably added by gmann 15:16
slaweqbut I have no other context about it :)15:16
diablo_rojoWhich we dont have more clarity on yet since the poll didnt go out yet15:16
slaweqahh, ok15:17
diablo_rojo(thats my guess at the context anyway)15:17
slaweqso it's related to the pool which spotz is going to send, right?15:17
rosmaitawell, we could schedule the times ... i think the location is what the poll is for15:17
slaweq*poll15:18
diablo_rojoslaweq: that was my guess15:18
diablo_rojorosmaita: I guess? but if they want host things on their time, they might want to set the schedule15:18
rosmaitaok, but it looks like that will set us up for scheduling conflicts all over the place15:19
rosmaitai'm not volunteering to schedule, so i will just shut up at this point15:20
diablo_rojoLOL15:20
diablo_rojoI think it needs to happen ASAP either way15:21
rosmaita++15:21
diablo_rojoActual scheduling via the bot wont begin till after the team list announcement which will be Aug 30th15:21
diablo_rojoSince the survey closes the 26th of Aug15:22
knikollawhat are we going to use for signing up for time slots. ethercalc?15:22
slaweqshouldn't it be on the projects' PTLs to schedule such session for operators?15:22
diablo_rojoknikolla: it'll actually all be done via the bot since ethercalc has been spun down by the opendev team15:23
diablo_rojo(the ptg scheduling was the only consistent use of ethercalc)15:23
knikolladiablo_rojo: ah, got it, thank you!15:23
diablo_rojoslaweq: yes? but I think it might be good for the TC to help make sure there arent conflicts?15:24
slaweqdiablo_rojo: sure, I agree that TC can help with that15:24
dansmithI thought we suggested a couple ops slots per day that PTLs choose for their project so that there are zero overlaps?15:24
dansmiththe TC can certainly help by defining some of those slots and asking PTLs to pick one15:24
diablo_rojodansmith: yes? 15:25
dansmithokay I'm not sure what the problem is, but I'm distracted with my oj15:25
diablo_rojodansmith: at least scurvy wont be a problem15:26
knikollalol15:26
diablo_rojodansmith: I dont think there is a problem :) Just waiting to hear about what the operators want to do 15:26
dansmithokay15:26
diablo_rojoI guess if someone wants to build a schedule of availability and then get PTLs to sign up that would be fine- the difficulty comes when we are assuming the ops availability15:27
diablo_rojoPersonally I think Monday or Tuesday would be good so that feedback can be used the rest of the week15:27
knikollai wonder if we can have the ops picks their availability slots (via some form of doodle poll, etc) and then have the ptls sign up on the slots that ops decide for availability15:28
diablo_rojoBut I dont want to make assumptions on their schedules, but perhaps I am too good at being the devils advocate :) 15:28
diablo_rojoknikolla: that could work; that would be another thing we would need to get an answer out of them on. 15:28
knikollagood, so we have another action item. 15:30
slaweqso who wants to prepare such doodle?15:30
* diablo_rojo looks at knikolla as it was his idea :D15:31
knikollai can try15:31
slaweqthx knikolla :)15:31
rosmaitacan spotz include it in her current poll?15:31
diablo_rojoHappy to review for you15:31
knikollathanks diablo_rojo :)15:32
slaweq#action knikolla to make doodle for ops to pick their availability slots during the PTG15:32
knikollarosmaita: good question. one email is better than two. I can sync up with spotz[m] 15:32
jungleboyj++15:32
rosmaita\o/15:32
slaweq+115:33
spotz[m]++15:33
jungleboyjrosmaita: Did good today!15:33
rosmaitait's about time15:33
slaweq:)15:33
diablo_rojoI think spotz was going to do it via twitter not an email, but I could be wrong. 15:33
diablo_rojo+2 1 email is better than 2 though15:34
knikollawondering if the thanks bot still works15:34
knikolla#thanks rosmaita for a helpful suggestion15:35
opendevstatusknikolla: Added your thanks to Thanks page (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Thanks)15:35
diablo_rojoOh cool :) 15:35
knikollait does! 15:35
slaweqI didn't know that bot15:35
slaweq#thanks knikolla for showing me thanks bot :)15:35
opendevstatusslaweq: Added your thanks to Thanks page (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Thanks)15:35
jungleboyj:-)15:35
slaweqI think we can move on to the next topic now15:36
knikolla:)15:36
slaweq#topic Open Reviews 15:36
slaweq#link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open15:36
slaweqthere are 4 open reviews on the list15:36
slaweqand IMO https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/851859 is ready for review15:36
slaweqso please check it15:36
slaweqthat's all from the agenda for today's meeting15:37
slaweqdo You have anything else to discuss today?15:37
diablo_rojoRegister for the PTG!15:37
diablo_rojoIts free now afterall15:37
diablo_rojohttps://openinfra-ptg.eventbrite.com/15:38
slaweqthx for reminder diablo_rojo 15:38
slaweqI will do it today15:38
* jungleboyj has15:38
spotz[m]I’m doing a tweet but can do an email15:38
* diablo_rojo gives gold star to jungleboyj 15:38
jungleboyj\o/15:38
* diablo_rojo gets one ready for slaweq 15:38
slaweq:)15:38
* jungleboyj needs more flair!15:39
diablo_rojojungleboyj: always :) 15:39
diablo_rojoThats all I had :) 15:39
* slaweq already registerd now :)15:40
* diablo_rojo gives slaweq his gold star15:40
slaweq\o/15:40
slaweqso I can give You few minutes back today15:41
slaweqthx for attending the meeting15:41
slaweq#endmeeting15:41
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jungleboyjThank you!15:41
slaweqo/15:41
diablo_rojoThanks slaweq 15:41
knikollathanks slaweq for running it :) 15:41
spotz[m]Thanks!15:41
rosmaitabye!15:42
diablo_rojoknikolla: let me know if I can help15:42
spotz[m]knikolla_: I’ll either be at CentOS/RH community table or volunteering somewhere 15:42
arne_wiebalckthanks!15:43
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