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| slaweq | hi gmann, I will not be able to attend today's tc meeting. I prepared new rechecks data in the etherpad, generally all looks good there, nothing to discuss really from my side | 13:53 |
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| gmann | slaweq: ack, thanks for update | 15:28 |
| gmann | tc-members: meeting time | 16:00 |
| gmann | #startmeeting tc | 16:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Nov 16 16:00:14 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'tc' | 16:00 |
| gmann | #topic Roll call | 16:00 |
| gmann | o/ | 16:00 |
| knikolla | o/ | 16:00 |
| JayF | o/ | 16:01 |
| gmann | let's wait for couple of min for other members to join. | 16:02 |
| arne_wiebalck | o/ | 16:02 |
| gmann | dansmith spotz noonedeadpunk rosmaita ping for meeting | 16:03 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 16:03 |
| gmann | in Absence section, slaweq - 16.11.2022 | 16:03 |
| gmann | we have 5 members so let's start | 16:04 |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Next_Meeting | 16:04 |
| gmann | ^^ today meeting agenda | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | Howdy. | 16:05 |
| noonedeadpunk | o/ | 16:05 |
| gmann | #topic Follow up on past action items | 16:05 |
| gmann | we have two action item from previous meeting | 16:05 |
| gmann | gmann to check with foundation about zoom pro account if any and can be shared with TC monthly video call | 16:05 |
| gmann | I sent email but did not get response yet so I will keep it open | 16:05 |
| gmann | #action gmann to check with foundation about zoom pro account if any and can be shared with TC monthly video call | 16:05 |
| gmann | rosmaita to continue his research/survey on translation things and update in TC meetings | 16:06 |
| gmann | rosmaita: any update on this? | 16:06 |
| rosmaita | yes | 16:06 |
| rosmaita | i put together a draft survey, could use some eyes/comments on it | 16:06 |
| rosmaita | here comes a really long url | 16:06 |
| rosmaita | #link https://forms.zohopublic.com/rosmaitafossdev/form/OpenStacktranslationsusageandcontributionsurvey/formperma/9W0PYjoo61tAShU9B1GQj3m52K43uty-KtXDhIlOUe4 | 16:06 |
| rosmaita | but that's what you get for free | 16:07 |
| rosmaita | while doing this, i learned that there has been a lot of consolidation in the free survey industry | 16:07 |
| rosmaita | and most options have a free level that is practically useless | 16:07 |
| fungi | i take it limesurvey didn't pan out | 16:07 |
| gmann | ohk | 16:08 |
| rosmaita | no, limesurvey only allows 25 responses a month | 16:08 |
| rosmaita | wufoo only allows 100 "entries" a month (whch would be about 20 responses) | 16:08 |
| rosmaita | pabbly.com only allows 100 submissions on a form | 16:08 |
| rosmaita | typeform only 10 responses | 16:09 |
| rosmaita | but zoho.com allows 500 submissions/month | 16:09 |
| fungi | ouch, yeah i guess i only lightly tested limesurvey's hosted version before i set up one to run in opendev (but then nobody used it, so we turned it off) | 16:09 |
| rosmaita | hence, that's what i picked | 16:09 |
| rosmaita | google forms allow unlimited responses, but are not available worldwide | 16:09 |
| rosmaita | (just for the record) | 16:10 |
| gmann | thanks that is good info to consider in future. | 16:10 |
| rosmaita | fungi: would be good if you could review what i say there about opendev infra supporting an instance | 16:10 |
| rosmaita | (i took it from a clarkb email, so is probably correct) | 16:10 |
| fungi | rosmaita: will check, thanks | 16:11 |
| fungi | rosmaita: lgtm | 16:12 |
| rosmaita | gmann: do we have time to look it over now, or should i say please get me comments by <date> | 16:12 |
| rosmaita | fungi: ty | 16:12 |
| fungi | either way though, there's still work for someone to (re)implement the import/export automation, even for the hosted weblate | 16:12 |
| gmann | rosmaita: not now, you can continue and we can track it when ever you are ready via tracker | 16:12 |
| rosmaita | ok, everyone, please give me comments before Friday at 1700 UTC | 16:13 |
| fungi | rosmaita: oh, zanata is the correct spelling, not zenata | 16:13 |
| fungi | minor nit | 16:13 |
| rosmaita | thanks, i must be confused with ZenDesk! | 16:13 |
| gmann | +1, let's get the response and once we have the data then we can discuss and decide | 16:14 |
| gmann | anything else on this ? | 16:14 |
| rosmaita | nope | 16:14 |
| gmann | thanks | 16:15 |
| gmann | #topic Gate health check | 16:15 |
| gmann | any news on gate? | 16:15 |
| gmann | I have not monitored gate this week much as working on RBAC/service role testing and also migration to jammy | 16:15 |
| fungi | moments ago we found out ovh is having an incident impacting some of their swift services, so we merged a change to temporarily stop uploading job logs there, but some builds in the past hour or so ended with post_failure | 16:16 |
| gmann | ok | 16:16 |
| fungi | early utc saturday we had a transient bug with our weekly rolling zuul upgrade which caused builds to end with retry_limit results, but by mit-saturday utc it was resolved (once the scheduelrs were running the same version as the executors). we merged a fix for that so other zuul deployments won't hit it | 16:17 |
| noonedeadpunk | Well, I found out that sahara if installed with Zed u-c (or with master) is not usable due to jsonschema version | 16:17 |
| noonedeadpunk | But that;s not gate specific thing, but more project health I guess | 16:18 |
| gmann | ohk, not sure we have many active maintainer in sahara but we fixed jsonschema things in other repo during Zed i think | 16:18 |
| fungi | the recent round of branch eols also raised some new errors in projects which didn't eol those branches but were consuming branch-specific jobs from ones that did | 16:18 |
| noonedeadpunk | Patch exists but was -1 on CR | 16:18 |
| fungi | worth revisiting whether transition from em to eol is really something we can leave up to individual projects | 16:18 |
| gmann | devstack is another example in that where we need to fix it to use the EOL tag for project moved to EOL | 16:19 |
| noonedeadpunk | well at very least I think that projects with trailing releases must EOL after all other projects as well | 16:19 |
| fungi | yes, there is implied work for other teams when we do integration testing between projects but allow them to eol branches on different schedules | 16:19 |
| noonedeadpunk | Yeah, for reason gmann said actually | 16:20 |
| gmann | not sure how easy or difficult to have a coordinated transition to EOL but release team knows better | 16:20 |
| JayF | I'll note that forcing teams to remain in "EM" when they wish to EOL will still push back that job-fixing-work on other teams if they aren't maintaining CI for that EM release. | 16:20 |
| fungi | agreed, i feel like we leave em branches open far too long | 16:21 |
| gmann | I will say they are moving from EM to EOL so if EM is broken due to some project EOL then it is good indication to EM projects also to do | 16:21 |
| JayF | There's no way to get around it: one project not-caring about an older release impacts any it cross-gates with; whether that's via EOL tag or just neglect | 16:21 |
| gmann | JayF: +1 yeah | 16:21 |
| gmann | in devstack also, we were discussing the same. let devstack EM branch broken and if anyone backporting and need devstack then they can fix it | 16:21 |
| rosmaita | well, when a project goes EOL on a branch, in devstack you can tell it to check out the eol tag instead of the stable branch | 16:22 |
| gmann | that is overall approach to EM anyays | 16:22 |
| gmann | rosmaita: yeah but that is extra work we need to do | 16:22 |
| JayF | and it leaves no path if that job starts failing due to bit rot or other reasons | 16:22 |
| gmann | I am not denying to do that but instead anyone maintaining the branches as EM can do | 16:23 |
| JayF | I actually think hard-failures might be preferable to testing against code you could never fix | 16:23 |
| JayF | but I'm not the one zuul is screaming at when the yaml doesn't parse :) | 16:23 |
| * dansmith stumbles in late | 16:23 | |
| gmann | this Friday (Nov 18) we will merge the base jobs moving to Jammy. and project can pin failing job to Focal nodeset for time being | 16:24 |
| gmann | #linkk https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-November/031205.html | 16:24 |
| gmann | noonedeadpunk i think let's stick to the deadline and not delay that. | 16:24 |
| dansmith | agree | 16:24 |
| gmann | ceph and swift fixes are still not merged | 16:24 |
| gmann | and horizon nodejs also failing | 16:24 |
| dansmith | do we need a patch to pin ceph stuff on focal ahead of friday? | 16:25 |
| noonedeadpunk | gmann: well, in OSA we also need to switch all projects to eol tag before marking osa as eol | 16:25 |
| fungi | yeah, the sooner that is switched the more time projects have to fix up problems they don't already know about. allowing projects which are aware of problems and haven't fixed them yet to delay that would be a poor prioritization, in my opinion | 16:25 |
| gmann | yeah to get devstack patch merge | 16:25 |
| gmann | dansmith: I will try to push one today | 16:25 |
| noonedeadpunk | otherwise, we will reference branches that does not exist | 16:26 |
| dansmith | gmann: okay | 16:26 |
| noonedeadpunk | ah, you meant schedule about jammy transition | 16:26 |
| gmann | noonedeadpunk: ok but you can just wait for all project to go EOL and keep OSA EM as broken ? | 16:26 |
| noonedeadpunk | sorry | 16:26 |
| noonedeadpunk | yeah, I jsut haven't switched to the new topic yet :) | 16:27 |
| gmann | ohk, sorry for jumping to next | 16:27 |
| noonedeadpunk | nah, it's fine, sorry for being slow :) | 16:28 |
| gmann | noonedeadpunk: for jammy migration, I know you fix is up for ceph job but it seems some other failure there. swift one is still not merged too | 16:28 |
| noonedeadpunk | tbh I'm not sure what should be passing and what's not - jobs are marked as NV so hard to say kind of. I would expect NFS to pass though. I think it's a usecase with ganesha | 16:29 |
| gmann | this is swift fix timburke mentioned in swift channel #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/863441 | 16:29 |
| noonedeadpunk | Can look into that if it's supposed to work | 16:29 |
| gmann | sure | 16:29 |
| noonedeadpunk | oh no, "//" again | 16:30 |
| gmann | but let's do the migration on Friday, I will keep pinning nodeset patches ready meanwhile | 16:30 |
| gmann | yeah | 16:30 |
| gmann | anything else on gate health? | 16:31 |
| gmann | #topic 2023.1 TC tracker checks | 16:31 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-2023.1-tracker | 16:31 |
| gmann | rosmaita already provided updates on i18 SIG | 16:31 |
| gmann | one update form me on TC chair process which is merged now | 16:32 |
| gmann | and upgrade path patch is up for review #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/860599 | 16:32 |
| gmann | noonedeadpunk ^^ updated it as per your review comment, please have a look | 16:33 |
| gmann | any updates form anyone on their assigned items? | 16:33 |
| gmann | ok, if nothing else let's move to next topic | 16:34 |
| gmann | #topic TC stop using storyboard? | 16:34 |
| gmann | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/923 | 16:34 |
| gmann | we discussed it in last week meeting, and many of us even were not aware that it exist | 16:35 |
| gmann | and defer this topic to this meeting as we were not having majority of TC in the meeting | 16:35 |
| knikolla | I remember that there was a push for everyone to use Storyboard many years ago | 16:35 |
| gmann | yeah | 16:35 |
| knikolla | Am I correct in assuming that push is not happening anymore and that Storyboard is not really seeing developmnet? | 16:36 |
| gmann | in TC we are using tracker in eytherpad which is much easy and also for many goal tracking also | 16:36 |
| gmann | well, most of the projects decided to move to LP like ironic, placement. so not sure that it is good idea to move them back to SB again | 16:37 |
| noonedeadpunk | Well, during PTG there were couple of topics on different tracks to move out from storyboard as well | 16:37 |
| gmann | but we are not deciding to shutdown SB for now | 16:37 |
| gmann | yeah | 16:37 |
| fungi | yes, this is less about whether projects are using storyboard and more that the process doug originally devised for goal tracking isn't being used and hasn't been for years | 16:37 |
| gmann | let's see how project goes and prefer over time | 16:37 |
| gmann | for TC SB, we can decide if we want to stop using SB or not | 16:38 |
| knikolla | ++, just trying to get more context on where we stand as a community | 16:38 |
| noonedeadpunk | I personally find SB quite hard to use | 16:38 |
| JayF | I think it'd be a positive change to just remove this tracking of governance from storyboard, and migrate it to "nothing" (our etherpad?) | 16:38 |
| gmann | yeah | 16:38 |
| dansmith | yep, NFO, move on | 16:38 |
| gmann | I would like to have a vote here for the record, any more question/discussion before I start voting? | 16:39 |
| fungi | the vote is specifically about deactivating the openstack/governance repo in storyboard.openstack.org, right? | 16:39 |
| gmann | yes | 16:39 |
| * dansmith readies his voting finger | 16:39 | |
| knikolla | and not moving to launchpad | 16:39 |
| knikolla | ? | 16:39 |
| gmann | yes | 16:40 |
| dansmith | I think we identified that we don't need either because most of us didn't even know the SB stuff was a thing | 16:40 |
| dansmith | which I'm in favor of | 16:40 |
| gmann | ok, let's start the voting, putting all together | 16:40 |
| gmann | #startvote TC stop tracking things on storyboard, close the governance project in SB, and not moving to LP? Yes, No | 16:41 |
| opendevmeet | Begin voting on: TC stop tracking things on storyboard, close the governance project in SB, and not moving to LP? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 16:41 |
| opendevmeet | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 16:41 |
| knikolla | #vote Yes | 16:41 |
| gmann | #vote Yes | 16:41 |
| rosmaita | i don't think we need the "not moving to LP" in there | 16:41 |
| dansmith | #vote Yes | 16:41 |
| noonedeadpunk | #vote Yes | 16:41 |
| rosmaita | seems extraneous | 16:41 |
| JayF | #vote Yes | 16:41 |
| noonedeadpunk | +1 to that | 16:41 |
| gmann | rosmaita: just to make sure | 16:41 |
| rosmaita | make sure of what, though? | 16:41 |
| noonedeadpunk | Or answers should be not boolean | 16:41 |
| gmann | rosmaita: usually closing SB means moving to LP | 16:42 |
| knikolla | there might be ambiguity in the need for an issue tracking mechanism for governance, and the SB/LP has been a binary usually. | 16:42 |
| rosmaita | well, i don't see any reason not to move to LP if it would be useful | 16:42 |
| gmann | for now we do not need to move to LP | 16:42 |
| rosmaita | right, but i don't see why that needs to be part of this vote | 16:42 |
| gmann | rosmaita: we do not have such requirement to move to LP right? | 16:42 |
| fungi | for the record, it wasn't really issue tracking that it was being used for anyway, it was task tracking | 16:42 |
| rosmaita | right, there is no obligation to use LP | 16:43 |
| fungi | (back when it was used at all) | 16:43 |
| rosmaita | but i don't see why we would want to say we are not going there as part of not using SB | 16:43 |
| dansmith | I think so many projects are "moving back to LP from SB", and knikolla asked about it, | 16:43 |
| dansmith | so the clarification seems to make sense to me | 16:43 |
| gmann | rosmaita: if we use then we need to open project there and tack it too right | 16:43 |
| gmann | yeah, stop SB should not mean we are moving to LP and for TC it is kind of different than other project | 16:44 |
| dansmith | rosmaita: you know we're just talking about the TC's task tracking and not anything binding for other projects right? | 16:44 |
| gmann | so it should not be read as TC is stopping SB and they will be on LP | 16:44 |
| gmann | yeah this is specific for TC only | 16:44 |
| JayF | "TC will stop formally tracking status in storyboard, leaving TC with no storyboard usage or migration to perform" <-- would this wording be more clear? | 16:45 |
| knikolla | if we make a songs album, it should be on LP | 16:45 |
| JayF | I think we all agree just confusion over the wording, yeah? | 16:45 |
| fungi | the tc hasn't really been doing goal task tracking in storyboard for years, so it already stopped long ago. this is about cleanup | 16:45 |
| rosmaita | i would be ok with "TC stop tracking things on storyboard and close the governance project in SB" | 16:46 |
| JayF | ++ | 16:46 |
| gmann | ok let's do that way. and as we are not using LP, leave that separate | 16:46 |
| noonedeadpunk | well, for me if we're adding LP part it would make sense to ask if we're closing SB and migrating nowhere, not closing SB or moving to LP | 16:46 |
| gmann | "TC stop tracking things on storyboard and close the governance project in SB and not migrating to any other tracking tool for now" ? | 16:47 |
| noonedeadpunk | As if it occurs that there're majority to use bug tracking system, but not SB, we're cutting these votes right now | 16:47 |
| fungi | the tc no longer has any process relying on the presence of the openstack/governance project in storyboard. it's probably not accurate to vote to stop doing something that already isn't being done | 16:48 |
| gmann | everyone agree on "TC stop tracking things on storyboard and close the governance project in SB and not migrating to any other tracking tool for now" ? | 16:48 |
| noonedeadpunk | I'm fine with that | 16:48 |
| dansmith | sure? | 16:48 |
| rosmaita | ok | 16:48 |
| knikolla | alright | 16:48 |
| gmann | ok let me end vote first and restart. I do not think we have command to cancel the vote, please let me know if we do/? | 16:48 |
| JayF | #vote invalid | 16:49 |
| opendevmeet | JayF: invalid is not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No. | 16:49 |
| JayF | heh there's no way to abstain after the fact | 16:49 |
| gmann | this poll/vote is abandon and we are restring the new vote | 16:50 |
| rosmaita | yeah, it enforces the options very strictly | 16:50 |
| gmann | #endvote | 16:50 |
| opendevmeet | Voted on "TC stop tracking things on storyboard, close the governance project in SB, and not moving to LP?" Results are | 16:50 |
| opendevmeet | Yes (5): gmann, dansmith, JayF, knikolla, noonedeadpunk | 16:50 |
| JayF | Can you #note that the vote before was invalid? | 16:50 |
| JayF | somethign that'll show up in the summarized-log | 16:50 |
| fungi | the meetbot manual seems to completely skip over voting commands | 16:50 |
| gmann | #note previous vote was abandon and we are restarting the new vote on SB. | 16:51 |
| gmann | done | 16:51 |
| JayF | Thanks | 16:51 |
| gmann | #startvote TC stop tracking things on storyboard, close the governance project in SB, and not migrating to any other tracking tool for now? Yes, No | 16:51 |
| opendevmeet | Begin voting on: TC stop tracking things on storyboard, close the governance project in SB, and not migrating to any other tracking tool for now? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 16:51 |
| opendevmeet | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 16:51 |
| dansmith | #vote Yes | 16:51 |
| knikolla | #vote Yes | 16:51 |
| gmann | #vote Yes | 16:51 |
| rosmaita | #vote Yes | 16:51 |
| noonedeadpunk | #vote Yes | 16:51 |
| JayF | #vote Yes | 16:51 |
| arne_wiebalck | #vote Yes | 16:52 |
| gmann | I think all tc-members present here voted. | 16:52 |
| gmann | #endvote | 16:52 |
| opendevmeet | Voted on "TC stop tracking things on storyboard, close the governance project in SB, and not migrating to any other tracking tool for now?" Results are | 16:52 |
| opendevmeet | Yes (7): gmann, rosmaita, arne_wiebalck, dansmith, JayF, knikolla, noonedeadpunk | 16:52 |
| fungi | i'll take care of the steps for closing down the openstack/governance repository in sb later today | 16:53 |
| gmann | cool, I will start the cleanup work on SB | 16:53 |
| gmann | frickler: let me close the open tasks there in case we have clear cleanup | 16:53 |
| gmann | fungi: ^^ | 16:53 |
| gmann | frickler: please ignore | 16:53 |
| fungi | but yes, you probably need to patch some governance documentation which refers to it | 16:53 |
| gmann | yeah, also some open story/tasks too | 16:54 |
| gmann | ok, moving next | 16:54 |
| gmann | #topic Recurring tasks check | 16:54 |
| gmann | Bare 'recheck' state | 16:54 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/recheck-weekly-summary | 16:54 |
| gmann | slaweq added this week summary in ^^ etherpad | 16:54 |
| gmann | which does not look bad. any discussion on this? | 16:55 |
| gmann | #topic Open Reviews | 16:55 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open | 16:55 |
| gmann | need one more vote in this #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/862637 | 16:56 |
| gmann | other open review are either waiting for deps or already talked about in meeting | 16:56 |
| JayF | FYI: I abandoned my proposal for video meetings; I appreciate everyone giving their feedback about the idea in writing but there was a clear consensus against it. | 16:56 |
| rosmaita | oh, i was wondering what happened to that | 16:56 |
| gmann | ack | 16:56 |
| gmann | reminder that we have Board + OpenStack syncup call today at 20 UTC (i think 3 hr from now) #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/2022-11-board-openstack-sync | 16:57 |
| knikolla | thanks for writing it JayF . It was really helpful to get additional points of view. I'll be doing some more research into how other communities do it. | 16:57 |
| gmann | please plan to join | 16:57 |
| gmann | +1 | 16:58 |
| gmann | we are on time, 2 min left. anything else? | 16:58 |
| knikolla | I'll be on vacation all of next week. | 16:58 |
| gmann | knikolla: ack. thanks for update | 16:59 |
| gmann | ok, let's close then. thanks everyone for joining | 16:59 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Nov 16 16:59:31 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2022/tc.2022-11-16-16.00.html | 16:59 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2022/tc.2022-11-16-16.00.txt | 16:59 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2022/tc.2022-11-16-16.00.log.html | 16:59 |
| arne_wiebalck | thanks gmann! | 17:00 |
| JayF | I will not be at next meeting as well; on vacation | 17:00 |
| gmann | JayF: ack. | 17:00 |
| JayF | I mean, generally speaking, our next scheduled meeting is the Wednesday before thanksgiving in the US; we might want to check if we'll even be able to reach quorum | 17:01 |
| fungi | i just looked through the meetbot source and confirmed there is no command to abandon a vote (though it would not be hard to add, basically just another class method in meeting.py) | 17:01 |
| JayF | that way we can give non-US TC members their time back ahead of time if needed | 17:01 |
| gmann | fungi: yeah, i could not find either but will be good to have one | 17:01 |
| fungi | also a #undo after the #endvote would likely have stricken its result from the minutes, but i'm not sure without some testing | 17:02 |
| fungi | as far as abstaining, the right way to allow that is to make abstain one of the vote options, then tc members present can explicitly abstain and would be able to change from a yes or no vote to abstain if they saw fit | 17:03 |
| gmann | JayF: I think having 5 members form USA but not sure if all are not available. dansmith rosmaita spotz ? | 17:03 |
| gmann | I am ok to cancel next week meeting if majority agree | 17:03 |
| dansmith | gmann: I haven't decided if I'm taking next weds off yet or not | 17:04 |
| fungi | we use meetbot for the spi board of directors monthly meetings, and the chair always makes "abstain" one of the possible options you can vote with | 17:04 |
| gmann | I will be around so either is fine for me | 17:04 |
| dansmith | but makes sense to cancel probably | 17:04 |
| gmann | tc-members: is it ok to cancel next week (Nov 23)meeting? | 17:05 |
| arne_wiebalck | fine by me :) | 17:07 |
| JayF | I'm obviously OK with it, I won't be here :D | 17:08 |
| gmann | rosmaita slaweq spotz noonedeadpunk what is your preference for TC week meeting ^^? | 18:00 |
| rosmaita | gmann: i will be around, but have no objections to cancelling the meeting | 18:05 |
| gmann | ack, thanks | 18:06 |
| fungi | tc-members: don't forget, our community round-table hour with foundation board members starts at 20:00 utc (roughly 50 minutes from now) | 19:10 |
| fungi | connection info is on https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/2022-11-board-openstack-sync along with the tentative discussion topics | 19:11 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/governance master: Update CHAIR.rst for few updates https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/862637 | 19:44 |
| gmann | tc-members: board syncup meeting started now | 20:00 |
| clarkb | spotz: just a heads up that I got Gerrit 3.6 fixed for the ssh issue. We didn't backport to Gerrit 3.5 because that required a jgit update which is well beyond my abilities in that codebase. However, they eventually updated jgit for different reasons and I backported the ssh fix to 3.5 and we've been running it for a few weeks now | 20:19 |
| spotz | clarkb: Oh nice, I've run into it a few times helping folks to get set up including at Summit during Git and Gerrit | 20:20 |
| clarkb | definitely let us know if you see similar issues going forward, but we've tested this a bit and expect it is a non issue at this point | 20:21 |
| spotz | Will do, I still need to redo a few slides that were off in Berlin assuming we'll run the session again in Vancouver | 20:22 |
| *** dasm is now known as dasm|off | 23:11 | |
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