Wednesday, 2024-05-29

opendevreviewGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/governance master: Show TC and SIG repos in projects page  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/91848800:28
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opendevreviewSlawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/project-team-guide master: Add info about recheck comments with "unrelated failure" info  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-team-guide/+/91406507:11
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fungihttps://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/emerging-technology-and-inactive-projects.html#timeline states "A new project must become an active OpenStack project before the third OpenStack coordinated release after the project has entered Emerging Technology status." which for skyline would have been before caracal. was there discussion of that situation resulting in a decision not to17:33
fungiretire it yet?17:33
fungior did having that discussion slip through the cracks?17:34
gmannI think TC has not checked its state yet, once we checks its current state and whether it met the new project requirements then we can take any decision 17:35
gmannit will be good to add it in for next meeting agenda or in tracker so that we have dedicated member}s to finish it.17:36
gmannwe discussed about it a few times but no one has taken the task and check it state.17:37
fungiyeah, if i'm reading the policy correctly, the tc is a cycle past due for making a decision on skyline (either to retire or explicitly defer for another cycle)17:37
gmannyes, you are right. TC is a cycle past on this activity. 17:38
fungialso it doesn't seem like the skyline maintainers have come to the tc to indicate they're ready to be a full project17:38
fungior to let the tc know they want more time. which is concerning, but maybe they don't realize they should do so17:39
gmanntrue17:39
gmannif project is not approaching at least TC should do to have a clear state in our doc.17:41
fricklerthere was some discussion in january and JayF had some contact with the team https://meetings.opendev.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2024-01-23.log.html#t2024-01-23T18:07:02 but no followup at the PTG afaict17:46
fungiokay so it did sort of get started at least17:47
fricklerthen there was the missed PTL election and late appointment17:47
gmannI have added it in 2024.2 tracker so that we can track it https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-2024.2-tracker#L13317:48
gmannno assignee yet but that is something gouthamr can check with tc-members if anyone volunteer to do so17:48
fungiawesome, thanks!17:48
fricklernot sure when and how the TC would need to formalize the "let's wait and see how it develops"17:49
fungiagreed, there should probably be some formal way to declare that decision, other than implicitly through indecision17:50
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gouthamrthere's nothing on https://ptg.opendev.org/ to indicate if skyline folks met at this PTG18:51
gouthamrbut we had some more context from wu_wenxiang_ on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/915108 18:52
gouthamrthere's quite some project activity https://review.opendev.org/q/project:%5Eopenstack/skyline.* 18:54
gouthamrty for adding the checks to the tracker gmann18:56
spotz[m]There weren't many groups at this past PTG19:10
gouthamrtrue; not a requirement.. but, i was hoping to see them start regular meetings, like the rest of us.. that isn't a thing either: https://meetings.opendev.org/ .. it is a small-ish team: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Skyline#Getting_in_Touch19:58
fricklerwell, not much different than a lot of other teams these days. actually better than some of them ;)20:14
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