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| opendevreview | Hiromu Asahina proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Fix inapproprite URL of API document https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-manuals/+/925744 | 08:56 |
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| fungi | reminder: openinfra board meeting in progress (though currently lacks quorum) | 15:04 |
| fungi | quorum! | 15:05 |
| fungi | call details at https://board.openinfra.dev/meetings/2024-08-06 for anyone who wants to listen in | 15:06 |
| JayF | gouthamr: slaweq: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/921500/8#message-dba806ef5a3367e3f47bf5a50f090d2d1e235140 re: the review I was asked for yesterday. Not a -1 but a question. | 15:44 |
| slaweq | JayF: replied | 15:56 |
| JayF | thanks | 15:56 |
| slaweq | see You on the meeting later, I need to drop for now | 15:56 |
| JayF | I even reread it this morning because I thought I missed a thing | 15:57 |
| JayF | will look, ty | 15:57 |
| JayF | gouthamr: once again I'll be significantly distracted during TC meeting; if I'm needed ping me but generally know that otherwise I might not be around | 16:03 |
| gtema | gouthamr: I will not be able to participate in a meeting today | 16:44 |
| fungi | seems like the foundation board of directors might not be the only governance body struggling to reach quorum in august | 16:51 |
| gouthamr | JayF gtema: ack; ty for letting me know | 17:31 |
| gouthamr | we have no _new_ agenda items; so this might be a short meeting | 17:32 |
| gouthamr | tc-members: today's meeting is in ~28 minutes; here and on Zoom; please see the wiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Next_Meeting | 17:32 |
| JayF | I forgot this was our weekly zoom meeting, I'll carve out time to ensure I'm there | 17:34 |
| JayF | s/week/month/ | 17:34 |
| gouthamr | ++ | 17:43 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: [templates] Update links https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/911387 | 17:50 |
| gouthamr | #startmeeting tc | 18:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Tue Aug 6 18:00:10 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'tc' | 18:00 |
| gouthamr | #info Today's meeting is being held primarily via video call. Action items and meeting minutes will be documented in IRC but for a full replay of the meeting, please visit the OpenStack TC youtube channel, where the recording will be uploaded soon. | 18:00 |
| gouthamr | Welcome to the weekly meeting of the OpenStack Technical Committee. A reminder that this meeting is held under the OpenInfra Code of Conduct available at https://openinfra.dev/legal/code-of-conduct. | 18:00 |
| gouthamr | Today's meeting agenda can be found at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee | 18:00 |
| gouthamr | #topic Roll Call | 18:00 |
| noonedeadpunk | o/ | 18:01 |
| noonedeadpunk | can I ask for a meeting link in IRC ?:) | 18:01 |
| gouthamr | dansmith: slaweq and JayF are on the Zoom call | 18:01 |
| gouthamr | noonedeadpunk: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee | 18:01 |
| gouthamr | sorry for the redirection | 18:01 |
| gouthamr | noted absence: gtema | 18:02 |
| gouthamr | courtesy ping: spotz[m] gmann frickler | 18:02 |
| spotz[m] | I’m at the CentOS Board F2F so can’t join video but around if needed | 18:03 |
| gouthamr | ack spotz[m] | 18:03 |
| gouthamr | #topic Action Items | 18:07 |
| gouthamr | 1) Check Zuul Configuration Errors: this was added to the TC summary email | 18:11 |
| gouthamr | 2) Encourage Leadership Nominations: slaweq sent out the kick-off email; JayF and gouthamr have mentioned this in their emails to the mailing list; we'll discuss this some more if we have time today | 18:12 |
| gouthamr | 3) Eventlet proposal follow up: typo fixes have merged | 18:12 |
| gouthamr | #topic A check on gate health | 18:13 |
| gouthamr | 18:13 | |
| gouthamr | dansmith: reports that jobs running on CentOS Stream are unstable | 18:14 |
| gouthamr | rocky nodes seem more stable | 18:14 |
| gouthamr | noonedeadpunk confirms that rocky seems to be more stable to use as a replacement | 18:15 |
| dansmith | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/925400 | 18:15 |
| gouthamr | noonedeadpunk: had issues with package mirrors with rocky a while ago | 18:16 |
| gouthamr | question: do we have infra-mirrors for rocky? | 18:16 |
| gouthamr | fungi: says tehre were some patches to add rocky mirrors to infra; we haven't finished up the work | 18:16 |
| gouthamr | need some time/bandwidth to push this through | 18:17 |
| fungi | i'll get a link for the minutes | 18:17 |
| gouthamr | ty fungi | 18:17 |
| gouthamr | correction: there was no prior work to add the mirrors | 18:19 |
| gouthamr | there was a discussion; and the community was generally supportive | 18:19 |
| gouthamr | infra cleanup has made room for newer ubuntu noble mirrors, and for stuff like rocky-linux | 18:20 |
| gouthamr | openstack-ansible has noble jobs | 18:21 |
| fungi | #link https://grafana.opendev.org/d/9871b26303/afs Utilization of AFS servers and volumes | 18:21 |
| gouthamr | nice | 18:21 |
| gouthamr | action item from the zoom call: gouthamr will poke #openstack-qa about noble testing efforts | 18:22 |
| gouthamr | #topic 2024.2 TC Tracker | 18:22 |
| gouthamr | many things on the tracker are complete now.. | 18:23 |
| gouthamr | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-2024.2-tracker | 18:23 |
| gouthamr | "unmaintained-core" folks are actively merging critical/CVE fixes | 18:24 |
| gouthamr | project maintainers are unburdened; proposers are working with the unmaintained-core to get patches in | 18:25 |
| gouthamr | noonedeadpunk has interacted with users that were cloning repositories from stable branches whose automation broke because of the unmaintained branch transition | 18:26 |
| gouthamr | unmaintained branches still need some CI maintenance work within the openstack-ansible team | 18:26 |
| gouthamr | unmaintained branches have a lot of zuul configuration errors | 18:29 |
| gouthamr | periodic jobs configured against unmaintained branches negatively affect zuul | 18:29 |
| gouthamr | zuul config errors in one project also affect any related projects that are referencing these config/jobs | 18:30 |
| gouthamr | maintainers will get an error on a patch if zuul detects config errors | 18:31 |
| gouthamr | but, periodic jobs don't report errors on a patch | 18:31 |
| gouthamr | #link https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/config-errors | 18:32 |
| gouthamr | infra did a sweep of non-openstack project in the openstack zuul tenant | 18:32 |
| gouthamr | s/project/projects | 18:32 |
| gouthamr | and cleaned those up | 18:33 |
| gouthamr | #link https://lists.opendev.org/archives/list/service-announce@lists.opendev.org/thread/X5TM537UZFPYXF23H6TJFSKO7M6GVM2W/ | 18:33 |
| gouthamr | elodilles: is there a plan on EOL for any current unmaintained branches? | 18:34 |
| gouthamr | ^ a question for later | 18:34 |
| gouthamr | EOL of distros also affects testing on these unmaintained branches.. | 18:36 |
| gouthamr | there's already an expectation that distros are testing these old branches by us calling these branches "unmaintained" | 18:36 |
| gouthamr | we went down the list and recapped all the items, open or pending closure | 18:40 |
| gouthamr | #topic Open Discussion and Reviews | 18:40 |
| gouthamr | Elections! we are discussing the ending of the term for 4 tc members in October | 18:42 |
| gouthamr | fungi: says we have affiliation querying functionality in the election tooling | 18:43 |
| gouthamr | we could surface that in places prominently for election officials to react | 18:44 |
| gouthamr | we don't currently _require_ foundation members nominating themselves to declare their affiliation on their foundation profiles | 18:45 |
| gouthamr | should we make that a requirement with the zuul testing of a "valid candidate" ? | 18:46 |
| gouthamr | tc can encode this requirement in the charter | 18:47 |
| gouthamr | or a resolution | 18:47 |
| gouthamr | #action gouthamr will follow up on this | 18:47 |
| gouthamr | fungi offered help with the election tooling, and there are folks like tonyb that could potentially help as well with the election tooling, ask on #openstack-election | 18:49 |
| gouthamr | #action check on contributions to TC repositories counting towards AC (gouthamr) | 18:50 |
| gouthamr | slaweq suggested emailing existing PTLs about the nomination period directly to avoid the number of projects that won't have nominations by the end of the period | 18:51 |
| gouthamr | is this sort of action warranted? frickler noted elsewhere that it would be providing an unfair advantage to existing candidates | 18:52 |
| gouthamr | or showing a preference (sorry if i was misunderstanding that concern) | 18:52 |
| gouthamr | fungi noted that this was done in the past | 18:52 |
| gouthamr | election officials shouldn't be expected to do this.. | 18:53 |
| gouthamr | because it can indicate favoritism towards some candidates | 18:53 |
| gouthamr | JayF notes that openstack leadership elections were contested more heavily in the past; there's a benefit to direct outreach now.. | 18:55 |
| gouthamr | because there's a lot of people forgetting to nominate themselves | 18:56 |
| gouthamr | doing direct outreach may also discourage folks from paying attention to the mailing list | 18:56 |
| gouthamr | or set a new expectation that may be infeasible to future election officials | 18:56 |
| gouthamr | election nominations occur during vacations (summer vacations now, lunar new year during the next cycle) | 18:58 |
| gouthamr | another thing to note is for well meaning community members, people apart from election officials, can be doing the direct outreach as well | 18:58 |
| gouthamr | and that brings us to the end of the hour | 19:01 |
| gouthamr | we'll continue discussing on the #openstack-tc channel and the #openstack-election channel | 19:01 |
| gouthamr | thank you all for attending | 19:01 |
| gouthamr | see you here next week! | 19:01 |
| gouthamr | #endmeeting | 19:01 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Tue Aug 6 19:01:56 2024 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:01 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2024/tc.2024-08-06-18.00.html | 19:01 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2024/tc.2024-08-06-18.00.txt | 19:01 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2024/tc.2024-08-06-18.00.log.html | 19:01 |
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