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| termie | soren: yup, you also are against non apt-get | 03:56 |
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| termie | soren: unless you are not the person who said this stuff | 03:56 |
| termie | soren: but i think you are, you like to comment on my merges | 03:57 |
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| soren | \o/ | 12:07 |
| jsgotangco | :) | 12:08 |
| * soren managed to get a UML guest running under Nova. | 12:08 | |
| soren | ...so now I don't need real hardware for testing, but can do everything in the cloud. | 12:09 |
| soren | "yo dawg, I heard you like clouds, so I put a cloud in your cloud.." | 12:10 |
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| hazmat | soren, that should work just as well with lxc i assume? | 13:29 |
| hazmat | soren, using libvirt bindings? | 13:29 |
| soren | hazmat: I'm using libvirt for it, yes. | 13:29 |
| hazmat | cool | 13:29 |
| soren | hazmat: Most of the work has been in libvirt, really. | 13:30 |
| soren | Just one more patch to submit upstream, and it should be golden. | 13:30 |
| hazmat | soren, nice | 13:30 |
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| zul | yes please | 13:36 |
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| dendrobates | mtaylor: are yuo around? | 13:58 |
| dendrobates | s/yuo/you | 13:58 |
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| dendrobates | anotherjesse: are you around? | 14:01 |
| pvo | it would be 7am for him | 14:01 |
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| dendrobates | pvo: just being hopeful | 14:03 |
| dendrobates | plus they could be anywhere in the world rightnow | 14:03 |
| pvo | good point | 14:03 |
| creiht | or in space :) | 14:03 |
| dendrobates | we need to make some changes in the LP teams, I suggest that we are using ~openstack wrong. | 14:08 |
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| dendrobates | right now we are putting people in the team that need to be in both ~nova and ~swift | 14:09 |
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| dendrobates | I would like ~openstack to be a combined team that includes the membership of ~nova and ~swift | 14:10 |
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| dendrobates | that would give us one place to contact the entire team for announcements and such | 14:10 |
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| soren | dendrobates: ~openstack is a member of ~nova and ~swift right now. You want it the other way around? | 14:25 |
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| dendrobates | soren: yes | 14:25 |
| dendrobates | component teams should be members of the project team | 14:26 |
| * soren tries to grasp what this will mean for bug mail | 14:26 | |
| dendrobates | I don't think it is very useful the way it is. Plus if I want to email everyone on the team, I would have to go to nova and swift to get everyone, which would cause duplication | 14:27 |
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| dendrobates | bug mail is on an entirely different team, so I don;t think it should be affected | 14:27 |
| soren | Ah, yes, I see your point about contacting people. | 14:28 |
| soren | You are quite right. | 14:28 |
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| dendrobates | I am working on the LP groups, you might see yourself deactivated in certain teams, if it messes anything up let me know. | 14:37 |
| dendrobates | yep thanks. | 14:38 |
| dendrobates | oops wrong channel | 14:39 |
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| soren | termie: ping re https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~termie/nova/move_tests/+merge/30739 | 14:54 |
| soren | termie: So, if you're going to redo that one, I'd like for you to either start over with a fresh branch off of trunk or start out by doing a "bzr revert -r -2" and (in both cases) then use "bzr move" to move files around. | 14:56 |
| soren | termie: Both will make the moves appear as moves rather than removing files and adding other files. | 14:57 |
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| mtaylor | dendrobates: morning | 15:12 |
| * soren dinners | 15:13 | |
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| creiht | mtaylor: Did you realize that the default RS confidentiality notice gets appended when you reply via email to a lp item? | 16:27 |
| creiht | https://code.launchpad.net/~xtoddx/swift/nova-auth/+merge/32127 | 16:27 |
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| dendrobates | why is ChanServ giving people voice. I thought that was only for moderated channels | 16:33 |
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| ptremblett | dendrobates: emails reflecting addition of Nova to OpenStack Team are finding their way outwards - just got mine | 16:33 |
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| dendrobates | ls | 16:34 |
| dendrobates | w | 16:34 |
| dendrobates | opps | 16:34 |
| dendrobates | damn fingers | 16:35 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: what did you mean here? :) # TODO(gundlach): temp | 16:36 |
| gundlach | heh, what was the context? | 16:36 |
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| gundlach | probably "This part is known to be temporary code" | 16:36 |
| gundlach | or rather, that's certainly what it means; i just don't remember where that was | 16:36 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: not sure, it's in your merge prop for rsapi :) | 16:37 |
| gundlach | jaypipes: well, there's one on line 59 of the diff -- that's because the AWS API is a fake at the moment | 16:37 |
| gundlach | and one on line 1678, which is because Serializer is returning fake XML serialization and isn't robust | 16:38 |
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| gundlach | those are the only two i see on https://code.launchpad.net/~gundlach/nova/rsapi/+merge/32394 | 16:38 |
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| jaypipes | gundlach: ok, makes sense then. it just looked like you forgot to write the todo ;P | 16:38 |
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| gundlach | are you seeing these in pylint output or something? or are you seeing them in the diff but it's not clear from context that i meant the code was temporary? | 16:38 |
| jaypipes | the latter :) | 16:39 |
| gundlach | ah, ok. i've used that style for years but if it's unclear i'm happy to say TODO(gundlach): temp code | 16:39 |
| gundlach | or something of the sort | 16:39 |
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| gundlach | (or to be more precise about why it's temporary) | 16:39 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: yep, it was just me being curious :) | 16:40 |
| gundlach | thx for looking at the merge prop :) | 16:40 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: of course! | 16:40 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: it's a large one, though...will take some time. | 16:41 |
| gundlach | jaypipes: it's actually not that large -- just lots of files moved around, which bzr isn't detecting | 16:41 |
| gundlach | files/classes | 16:42 |
| gundlach | the diffs within a class are pretty minimal, except for the addition of servers.py's ServersController class | 16:42 |
| gundlach | (which is still temporary, nonworking code) | 16:42 |
| mtaylor | creiht: ew. | 16:43 |
| mtaylor | creiht: I suppose I use my non-rackspace email more frequently than my rackspace email ... | 16:43 |
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| gundlach | anyone, jaypipes: i'd like to use Pylons' WSGIController in Nova. Should I add a dependency to Pylons (feels kind of heavyweight for just one class) or copy WSGIController bodily into our code (feels like a mortal sin)? | 17:14 |
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| jaypipes | gundlach: hmm, I think that's a question for the ML... I'd hate to make a wrong decision on that one :) | 17:15 |
| gundlach | jaypipes: kthx | 17:15 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #616935 in swift "Expose account/container metadata facility to external API" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616935 | 17:55 |
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| notmyname | http://yfrog.com/nfc1nj | 18:37 |
| bitmonk1 | :-P | 18:38 |
| soren | notmyname: I'm sure that would be hilarious if I had any clue who that was.. | 18:48 |
| notmyname | big ad campaign in the US for Dos Equis beer. the catch phase is "I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I choose Dos Equis" | 18:49 |
| notmyname | he is the "most interesting man in the world" | 18:49 |
| notmyname | http://yfrog.com/nfc1nj | 18:50 |
| notmyname | oops | 18:50 |
| notmyname | http://www.themostinterestingmanintheworld.net/the-most-interesting-man-in-the-world-quotes-top-10/ | 18:50 |
| soren | Ah, I see. | 18:52 |
| soren | notmyname: Thanks, man. I've been wondering about that one for days. | 18:52 |
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| creiht | notmyname: that's awesome | 19:24 |
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| notmyname | stats system for swift is moving along https://code.launchpad.net/~notmyname/swift/stats_system/+merge/32502 | 19:29 |
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| gundlach | mtaylor: you around? | 21:33 |
| mtaylor | gundlach: yes | 21:33 |
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| vishy | hey everyone | 21:34 |
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| gundlach | why does https://code.launchpad.net/~gundlach/nova/rsapi/+merge/32394 show that i have both added and removed file 'nova/endpoint/cloud.py'? | 21:34 |
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| gundlach | instead of showing adiff (if any changes happened) or not showing it at all? | 21:34 |
| vishy | anyone have a suggestion for this https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/615637 | 21:34 |
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| gundlach | vishy: i'd say make it rereaise. is that what you're asking? | 21:35 |
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| gundlach | ^reraise | 21:35 |
| vishy | well the best way to do that | 21:35 |
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| gundlach | no i mean what's the data format -- json or pickle or what | 21:37 |
| vishy | we use the default | 21:37 |
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| vishy | forgetting which it is because we are only passing strings atm | 21:38 |
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| gundlach | ok, then yes i would pass a dict like { 'return': <whatever you used to pass> } or { 'exception': <pickled exception object> } | 21:38 |
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| vishy | and on the other end if exception unpickle raise? | 21:39 |
| vishy | i suppose that makes sense...I'll give it a shot with some tests | 21:39 |
| gundlach | mtaylor: in case it wasn't clear, my q about the merge prop above was for you. | 21:40 |
| gundlach | vishy: well, i'm back-pedaling a bit looking at the code | 21:40 |
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| gundlach | i forgot that rpc.call is async. how does a caller get the result back? | 21:40 |
| gundlach | (currently) | 21:40 |
| vishy | deferred | 21:40 |
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| gundlach | deferred_receive() calls d.callback(data) but I don't see ... ah, d is returned to the caller. | 21:41 |
| vishy | so with inlineCallbacks it would be | 21:41 |
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| vishy | value = yield rpc.call(...) | 21:41 |
| vishy | but i think i can unpickle the exception and make it errback | 21:42 |
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| gundlach | cool, good luck... over my head :) | 21:42 |
| vishy | :) | 21:42 |
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| creiht | vishy: So an exception occurs in the other service? | 21:44 |
| vishy | yes | 21:45 |
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| vishy | creiht: we are only using call in a couple of places | 21:46 |
| creiht | It seems like that service should log the error, and return some sort of error code/error message | 21:46 |
| creiht | instead of trying to pipe the traceback back through the rpc | 21:46 |
| vishy | creiht: the idea of our rpc is to make it so you can use the class or an rpc the same way | 21:47 |
| creiht | ahh | 21:47 |
| vishy | creiht: but that is more a "just because it is clean" as opposed to being a hard req | 21:48 |
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| vishy | so you think passing back an error message and checking for an error is better? | 21:48 |
| vishy | i mean it is really the same idea | 21:49 |
| creiht | if they are remote service calls, then yeah | 21:49 |
| redbo | chuck thinks everything should be restful | 21:49 |
| vishy | just pickling gives a little more info | 21:49 |
| creiht | and I do have a tendancy to think of everything in a restful manner :) | 21:49 |
| gholt | I may be an old fogey, but having code pretend it's not executing over rpc has always been that holy grail: Never obtainable, and so much lost in the attempts. :) | 21:50 |
| creiht | vishy: one thing we do is have a uuid for each request that gets passed to every call, so that it makes it easier to grep through logs to trace what calls were made for a given request/error | 21:50 |
| vishy | gholt: heh, true | 21:51 |
| creiht | and what gholt said :) | 21:51 |
| vishy | hmm so looking at carrot, right now the exception is passed back using json | 21:52 |
| gholt | creiht: I'm sure you'll be so excited to know I have another merge request for you. | 21:52 |
| creiht | hehe | 21:52 |
| creiht | why do I have to be the merge master? :) | 21:52 |
| creiht | I'm never going to get any work done | 21:53 |
| gholt | Well, I can't very well approve my own code now can I? Hehe | 21:53 |
| creiht | and I was just beginning to grok paste.deploy :) | 21:53 |
| creiht | hehe | 21:53 |
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| maplebed | I'm trying to figure out how to compare eucalyptus and openstack. Without starting a flamewar, do any of you know of a good wiki page or blog post that goes through what the two projects do differently and in what areas they're similar? | 22:21 |
| maplebed | I'm in the initial stages of research around building a private cloud for my company and am just trying to get the lay of the land. | 22:21 |
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| creiht | eday, jaypipes, and others looking at wsgi stuff: I highly recommend on checking out paste.deploy | 22:41 |
| creiht | I'm in the process of converting swift to use it | 22:41 |
| jaypipes | creiht: cool, thx | 22:41 |
| creiht | And should make it a lot easier to share middleware | 22:41 |
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