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| redbo | how come for the last week or so, I get a google maps api alert every time I visit a page on launchpad? | 15:06 |
| redbo | github never gives me google maps api errors | 15:08 |
| vvuksan | cause obviously launchpad guys screwed something up | 15:08 |
| vvuksan | google maps api key is coded to a particular site | 15:08 |
| jaypipes | redbo: yeah, I noticed that on Monday. Haven't seen it today yet... | 15:10 |
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| redbo | I unchecked "Display map" and it quit that | 15:14 |
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| notmyname | well, sure. but then how can I stalk openstack devs? | 15:15 |
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| dendrobates | jaypipes: +1 on common options processing. | 16:31 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: :) | 16:31 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: http://wiki.openstack.org/CommonOptionsProcessing | 16:31 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: just finishing up the proposal... | 16:31 |
| dendrobates | jaypipes: and +1 for using the wiki | 16:31 |
| jaypipes | heh | 16:32 |
| dendrobates | It's our's we should make the most of it. | 16:32 |
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| creiht | Why don't we just use the built in opt_parse? | 16:39 |
| dendrobates | I don't care so much what we use, as that we standardize. | 16:40 |
| creiht | well the proposal seems to be to create our own | 16:42 |
| jaypipes | creiht: I don't know. Why don't you guys use optparse? ;) | 16:42 |
| jaypipes | creiht: no, you may want to re-read the proposal... | 16:43 |
| creiht | optparse is our preferred way, we may still have some that don't just because we hadn't gotten to it yet | 16:43 |
| jaypipes | creiht: I'm using optparse underneath. It just adds the ability to have module-specific options and automatically handle configuration files | 16:43 |
| eday | jaypipes: so, you may already have this written, but will pulling args require the __name__ vars or the explicit module name as well? | 16:45 |
| jaypipes | creiht: and a benefit to using this proposed openstack.common.config would mean no longer having to deal with both ConfigParser and optparse. the common.config module would handle that all. | 16:45 |
| creiht | So is a requirement that every config value has to be able to be set on the command line? | 16:46 |
| jaypipes | eday: not sure I follow you... | 16:46 |
| jaypipes | creiht: not at all. | 16:46 |
| eday | jaypipes: what is the var/method to get the value of --nova-datastore-engine ? | 16:46 |
| jaypipes | creiht: all options specified using add_module_option would be able to be put in any standard configuration file. | 16:46 |
| jaypipes | eday: 2 ways (I'm still finishing the wiki page..): | 16:46 |
| jaypipes | eday: method one: | 16:47 |
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| jaypipes | print config.options.nova_datastore_engine | 16:47 |
| jaypipes | eday: method two: | 16:47 |
| jaypipes | mc = ModuleConfig(__name__) | 16:47 |
| jaypipes | print mc.engine | 16:47 |
| * creiht doesn't see anything wrong with just using opt_parse for options and ConfigParser for config files | 16:47 | |
| creiht | but I also live in the swift world, so I'm not sure if there is more needed by Nova | 16:48 |
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| jaypipes | creiht: that's what this module does...only you wouldn't need to clutter your code with calls to those libraries.. it would all just be done for you. | 16:48 |
| eday | jaypipes: ahh, ok. I like the latter, and you may want to ave ModuleConfig(__name__) for adding to. For example: mc = config.ModuleConfig(__name__); mc.add_option('engine', ...) | 16:48 |
| jaypipes | eday: I just haven't written that part yet :) | 16:49 |
| jaypipes | eday: in the wiki... | 16:49 |
| eday | jaypipes: I know, I just can't wait :) | 16:49 |
| jaypipes | creiht: well, like I said, this is just a proposal. once I'm done with the proposal I'll toss it over to the ML and you can feel free to bash it :) | 16:49 |
| creiht | It all seems like a lot of hand waving to me to change one set of calls to another set of calls :) | 16:49 |
| * jaypipes stabs eday with patience knife. | 16:49 | |
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| jaypipes | creiht: I think you'll see the benefit especially when we have common components like auth* that you will need to specify options for | 16:50 |
| eday | creiht: so, you don't expose all options to both command line and config file? Having one wrapper to manage both seems like a win to me | 16:51 |
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| creiht | can seem a bit problematic to me, especially when you start talking about paste.deploy config files | 16:54 |
| creiht | and the fact that swift configs have serveral sections | 16:55 |
| creiht | but I guess if you guys can make it all work, and isn't that much of a change, I wont press that hard against it | 16:56 |
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| creiht | just seems like a lot of extra stuff to me, without much extra gain | 16:57 |
| jaypipes | creiht: I think that's because you are thinking only of swift right now? | 16:58 |
| creiht | possibly, I dunno | 16:59 |
| jaypipes | creiht: this is what the config files would be like: http://codepad.org/lrbP2skE | 16:59 |
| jaypipes | creiht: I don't think that goes against the swift config file layout. | 16:59 |
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| creiht | I guess what I am trying to say, is that you have to sell me more on what benefit do we get by adding this extra code, versus using just the built in command line and config file parsing libs | 17:05 |
| creiht | also, by using paste.deploy, your wsgi apps become more data driven, and I'm not sure how you are going to be able to set the options in the code like that | 17:08 |
| zul | how would i run openstack with qemu | 17:09 |
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| creiht | jaypipes: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~hudson-openstack/swift/trunk/annotate/head:/etc/proxy-server.conf-sample | 17:10 |
| creiht | and example of how our current confs work | 17:11 |
| creiht | look | 17:11 |
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| dendrobates | zul: very slowly :) | 17:12 |
| zul | dendrobates: i mean is there a switch i have to use? | 17:13 |
| dendrobates | zul: you'd be better off using soren's uml work | 17:13 |
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| zul | dendrobates: k | 17:13 |
| zul | dendrobates: i was afraid you are going to say that :) | 17:13 |
| jaypipes | creiht: I'm having trouble understanding what you mean by "become more data driven" above... could you elaborate? | 17:15 |
| creiht | paste.deploy will build your wsgi app based on the config | 17:16 |
| creiht | the config file determines what code gets instantiated | 17:18 |
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| jaypipes | creiht: so, since paste.deploy reinvented the wheel for ConfigParser, you're suggesting we just use the paste.deploy INI file conventions? | 17:32 |
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| creiht | I believe paste.deploy uses ConfigParser, what it invented was being able to compose arbitrary wsgi apps through python egg entry points | 17:33 |
| jaypipes | creiht: how do Swift's tests provide options to swift's applications? | 17:34 |
| creiht | paste.deploy config files are still readable by ConfigParser | 17:34 |
| creiht | by creating the config dictionary | 17:34 |
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| jaypipes | creiht: so swift's tests emulate/mock paste.deploy? | 17:34 |
| creiht | no | 17:35 |
| creiht | when wsgi apps are initialized, they are sent a config dictionary | 17:35 |
| jaypipes | creiht: the environ you mean? | 17:35 |
| creiht | no | 17:35 |
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| creiht | when the actuall app is initialized | 17:35 |
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| creiht | so you can either instantiate the wsgi app through paste.deploy (which in turn sends the correct config items), or manually send a config dict when testing | 17:36 |
| creiht | at least in the case of unit tests | 17:37 |
| jaypipes | creiht: I see, ok. | 17:37 |
| jaypipes | creiht: so, how do you test non-faked environments? | 17:37 |
| jaypipes | creiht: would you have to create a new config dict and hard-code that into the test setup? | 17:37 |
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| creiht | jaypipes: when you say environment, do you mean the environment that is passed through the wsgi app, or something else? | 17:38 |
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| jaypipes | creiht: the config dict. | 17:38 |
| creiht | k | 17:38 |
| creiht | we have functional tests that test the full stack | 17:39 |
| creiht | that require a working system for it to connect to | 17:39 |
| jaypipes | creiht: the reason I am asking is that the end-goal is to have (up on hudson.openstack.org or similar) a testing platform that goes through all the various configurations of openstack projects and stresses the unit tests in different ways (for instance, with and without LDAP auth, with ReDIS, with SQLite as the datastore driver, etc...) | 17:39 |
| jaypipes | creiht: and those functional tests, how are options provided to the tests? or are they hardcoded in the test cases? | 17:40 |
| creiht | the test reads a config file :) | 17:40 |
| creiht | so it knows what system to connect to | 17:40 |
| jaypipes | creiht: a regular config file, or a paste.deploy one? | 17:40 |
| jaypipes | creiht: in other words, does the functional test framework use paste.deploy to deploy into a test platform? | 17:41 |
| creiht | the functional tests assume that a functional system is already running, and you just give the tests a url and creds to run its tests against | 17:41 |
| jaypipes | ok, gotcha. | 17:41 |
| jaypipes | creiht: thx for the info. very useful. I'm trying to determine how best to work a standard configuration module that tries it's best not to trample on any of the good work you guys have already done and also to bring a little unity with that work over to nova. | 17:42 |
| creiht | I'm all for having a standard way of doing configuration | 17:42 |
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| jaypipes | creiht: and I'm all for not trampling on your feet :) | 17:43 |
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| creiht | I have a tendancy to use modules that are already available, rather than custom coding (and even more so if it is already in the std library) | 17:43 |
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| creiht | jaypipes: and I also don't mind making changes if things are better | 17:48 |
| creiht | :) | 17:49 |
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| redbo | where can I look at lp:swift on launchpad? | 17:50 |
| littleidea | redbo: https://launchpad.net/swift | 17:50 |
| creiht | redbo: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~hudson-openstack/swift/trunk/files | 17:51 |
| redbo | ok... now how do I check out a specific revision? :) | 17:52 |
| gholt | Click on it? | 17:52 |
| littleidea | Can anyone explain the blueprint deadline for this friday? | 17:52 |
| redbo | s/check out/branch from/ | 17:52 |
| creiht | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~hudson-openstack/swift/trunk/revision/2.1.3 | 17:53 |
| creiht | oh | 17:53 |
| gholt | man bzr | 17:53 |
| creiht | hehe | 17:53 |
| redbo | hehe | 17:53 |
| gholt | -r <revision> | 17:53 |
| redbo | is that the number of the revision on trunk, or the revision id? | 17:54 |
| gholt | Yeah, I think it's that localized revision number nonsense. | 17:55 |
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| redbo | ok I think I got what I wanted | 17:56 |
| redbo | thanks! | 17:56 |
| dendrobates | littleidea: people that are working on features need to have those features spec'd out and blueprints made so we can track them. We also need to write a test plan that incorporates all the upcoming work | 17:57 |
| dendrobates | It's really just paperwork, but we need to be able to tell people what will be in each release of openstack | 17:58 |
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| rlucio | hey all... when running compute nodes on separate machines from the cloud controller, is it assumed that all of the machines are sharing (via nfs or something) the vm disk images ? | 18:12 |
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| vvuksan | shouldn't it be getting from the objectstore | 18:14 |
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| rlucio | well, tbh I haven't really looked into the functionality of the objectstore | 18:16 |
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| rlucio | must be more configuration magic.. gah | 18:18 |
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| vvuksan | rlucio: are you able to launch VMs on your local machine ? | 18:24 |
| vvuksan | local dev env ? | 18:24 |
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| rlucio | yea, i can. i also have a setup with the cloud controller++ on one machine and the compute node on another, which will try to start a vm but fail when attempting to get the image.. the compute node is trying to find the image in images_path | 18:26 |
| vvuksan | ah | 18:26 |
| vvuksan | i suspect you are right then | 18:26 |
| vvuksan | it needs NFS mount | 18:26 |
| rlucio | which is why i thought it needed to be nfs ya | 18:26 |
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| rlucio | i want to make sure i do it the right way tho | 18:28 |
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| xtoddx | swift problem: Error trying to load config /etc/swift/proxy-server.conf: No section 'proxy-server' (prefixed by 'app' or 'application' or 'composite' or 'composit' or 'pipeline' or 'filter-app') found in config /etc/swift/proxy-server.conf | 20:21 |
| creiht | xtoddx: My guess is that you have updated the code since you last ran it :) | 20:21 |
| creiht | the config files have to be changed a bit | 20:21 |
| creiht | xtoddx: is this on your saio? | 20:22 |
| xtoddx | yea, i pulled trunk, but i'm using the paste.deploy configs in trunk/etc | 20:22 |
| xtoddx | yea | 20:22 |
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| creiht | oh | 20:22 |
| creiht | xtoddx: make sure you have a section called [app:proxy-server] and not [app:proxy] | 20:23 |
| xtoddx | i have app: main | 20:23 |
| creiht | I changed the name to be consistent with everything else | 20:23 |
| creiht | xtoddx: can you paste your conf? | 20:23 |
| xtoddx | no, i have pipeline main, and app proxy | 20:23 |
| xtoddx | i'll change to proxy-server quickly | 20:24 |
| creiht | cool | 20:24 |
| creiht | sorry about the changes | 20:24 |
| xtoddx | woo! changing the app to proxy server and changing proxy => proxy-server in the pipeline does it | 20:25 |
| xtoddx | creiht: thanks | 20:25 |
| creiht | cool | 20:25 |
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| vvuksan | i have been working on some chef recipes similar to swift-solo (inspired by it) | 20:34 |
| vvuksan | everything installs and kinda works :-) | 20:34 |
| creiht | hehe | 20:35 |
| vvuksan | i am still working through quirks | 20:35 |
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| vvuksan | anyone else wants to give it a try :-) | 20:35 |
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| vvuksan | what's weird is that if nova-objectserver is daemonized it crashes | 20:37 |
| vvuksan | if I run it in the foreground it doesn't | 20:37 |
| vvuksan | granted most of this is installed via Soren's packages | 20:37 |
| vvuksan | so things may be a bit outdated | 20:37 |
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| rlucio | i just tried (trunk from last friday) and it works fine | 20:39 |
| vvuksan | ok | 20:39 |
| vvuksan | i'll try that then | 20:40 |
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| rlucio | vvuksan: btw, i stumbled onto some insight on the images issue from earlier... it says in nova/virt/images.py: flags.DEFINE_bool('use_s3', True, | 20:42 |
| rlucio | 'whether to get images from s3 or use local copy')" | 20:42 |
| vvuksan | nice | 20:43 |
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| amscanne | Hi all, just wanted to see the history of discussion here... seems that http://irclogs.openstack.org/logs/2010-08/%23openstack.21.log (and later log files from #openstack) give a forbidden error... that's probably relevant to someone here :) | 21:22 |
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| gholt | amscanne: You're right, I just don't know who. :) | 21:41 |
| gholt | someone: Hey fix the 403 errors on the IRC logs! :) | 21:41 |
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| gholt | dendrobates: Maybe you know who runs the IRC logs? And how to get their permissions fixed? | 21:42 |
| dendrobates | gholt: I don't know for sure. perhaps spy does. | 21:43 |
| gholt | spy: ping! ^^ | 21:43 |
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| spy | i'm not running that server, but i do have one up and running that has accurate logs | 21:44 |
| spy | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/ | 21:44 |
| spy | same server that hosts the meeting minutes | 21:45 |
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| littleidea | is there an api for launchpad? | 22:36 |
| littleidea | like can I get all the blue prints from an API | 22:36 |
| creiht | littleidea: I believe so, but not sure where you find out about that | 22:38 |
| zooko | There is an XML-RPC API for the issue tracker. | 22:39 |
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