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| uvirtbot | New bug: #932453 in swift "swauth create an exist user does not return 202" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932453 | 00:31 |
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| Glace | notmyname: ping | 00:37 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #932466 in glance "glance db migrations fail against precise mysql server" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932466 | 01:01 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #932468 in nova "python-novaclient hardcodes UUID_CACHE_DIR, this should respect some env variable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932468 | 01:06 |
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| newbie_sc | i am installing Openstack for the 2 servers scenario. | 02:07 |
| newbie_sc | but I found euca-describe-availability-zones verbose returns nothing, after I followed all the steps | 02:08 |
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| aweiss | hey anyone available? | 04:26 |
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| shang | hi all, to test the openstack nova api, do we need the X-Auth-Token? If so, where can we find it? | 04:28 |
| shang | aweiss: yeah | 04:28 |
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| annegentle | shang: yep, you request a token from the identity api - see http://docs.openstack.org/api/quick-start/content/ | 04:31 |
| annegentle | shang: once the identity api gives you a token, you use that for subsequent nova api requests (tokens last 24 hours) | 04:32 |
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| shang | annegentle: awesome! | 04:33 |
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| shang | annegentle: also, I am testing OpenStack with ESXi hypervisor. After reading the vmwareapi_readme.html, I am still having some issue | 04:35 |
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| aweiss | annegentle: was wondering if you could help me diagnose a glance/keystone issue | 05:57 |
| aweiss | if you're still available | 05:58 |
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| CuriousSwamy | help | 07:12 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #932578 in keystone "Unpythonic code in redux in auth_token.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932578 | 08:11 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #932631 in nova "Can access the instance with ping BUT cannot access into vm instance with ssh" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932631 | 10:21 |
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| zykes | koolhead17: around ? | 11:12 |
| zykes | is there anyone here that works for HCL ? | 11:12 |
| koolhead17 | zykes: lol | 11:14 |
| koolhead17 | i dont :D | 11:14 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #932729 in keystone "git ignore sqlite.db files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932729 | 13:11 |
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| dneary | Hi | 13:23 |
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| Leander | hello all | 13:32 |
| Leander | can someone give me a pointer on where i can find the complete specification of the openstack api v1.1 used with diablo and openstakx | 13:33 |
| Leander | i've found this link http://wiki.openstack.org/OpenStackAPI_1-1 , but it appears to be incomplete | 13:33 |
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| koolhead17 | Leander: Try putting it on mailinglist as well, as not everyone would be here to answer your query because of the timezone | 13:38 |
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| Leander | koolhead17: way ahead of you ;). Thanks for the suggestion nonetheless | 13:41 |
| koolhead17 | Leander: :) | 13:42 |
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| ik04ka | hi all | 13:55 |
| ik04ka | is it ok to run swift inside lxc & | 13:55 |
| ik04ka | ? | 13:55 |
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| aleixdorca | I'm trying to setup a simple keystone+glance+nova on ubuntu 11.10 but somehow it seems packages are not compatible between releases, meaning the default packages that come with oneiric won't let nova work with keystone... and things like that. Also I'm having lots of problems with the trunk ppa... Can anyone point me to some packaged distribution know to work for the setup I intend? | 15:09 |
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| Gandalf___ | Hi all | 15:10 |
| Gandalf___ | can I ask some question about the right infrastructure to use for a project ? | 15:11 |
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| dneary | Gandalf___, An IRC channel I used to be active on had as its topic: "Don't ask to ask, just ask" | 15:22 |
| dneary | Gandalf___, I'm not the guy who will be able to answer you, though | 15:22 |
| aleixdorca | What's the best Keyston version to install? | 15:22 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #932819 in keystone "redux branch is missing LICENSE file." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932819 | 15:25 |
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| ashadocat_laptop | So does openstack support chroots as a quasi-virtualization method? I can't see any documentation suggesting such but you do seem to support user mode linux, which is weird. | 15:40 |
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| Remco_ | has anyone configured multiple fixed ips per vm before? I see in database that the tables are ready, but don't know if there are any console applications for adding extra fixed ip to vm. | 15:48 |
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| NashTrash | Hello Stackers | 15:55 |
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| NashTrash | I just installed Swift 1.4.6 and I seem to be missing the swift-recon tool. Did I miss something? | 15:56 |
| ik04ka | NashTrash, do you know - is it ok if I will install swift in linux container guest? | 15:57 |
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| NashTrash | ik04ka: I am not sure what you mean by linux container guest. Do you mean in a linux guest virtual machine? | 15:58 |
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| NashTrash | ik04ka: If in a guest VM is what you mean, then yes, you definitely can install swift in a guest VM. | 16:00 |
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| phschwartz | How do you get queued snapshot requests to run. They have been sitting since yesterday with no change | 16:08 |
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| ik04ka | yes, lxc VM | 16:11 |
| ik04ka | ok, thank you | 16:11 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #912355 in euca2ools "euca-allocate-address is not acepting any parameters" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/912355 | 16:12 |
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| doude | Hi all, I try to use OpenStack Essex3 but when I try to list servers throught the OSAPI (nova list) I get error 404 'No route matched for GET /servers/detail' (http://paste.openstack.org/show/4821/) in the nova API logs | 16:15 |
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| phschwartz | so I create my instances with swap space? I noticed the ubuntu cloud images don't | 16:18 |
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| eglynn | whois ttx | 16:29 |
| doude | Could you help me ? I don't know hpw to resolve that | 16:29 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #932859 in tempest "test cases "test_list_flavors_detailed_filter_by_min_disk" and "test_list_flavors_filter_by_min_disk" only work if "flavor_ref" set to the minimum flavor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932859 | 16:30 |
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| NashTrash | Swift Experts: I just installed Swift 1.4.6 and I seem to be missing the swift-recon tool. Did I miss something? | 16:33 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #932867 in nova "creation of flavors with name of a deleted flavor is not possible" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932867 | 16:41 |
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| doude | Ok thanks a lot, I found by my self. I forget to add string '%tenant_id% in the nova endpoint template | 16:55 |
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| weissa1 | hey, was wondering if anyone could help me with an authentication issue on keystone 2012.1 and glance | 17:00 |
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| esker | Any pointers / suggestions on a current architecture diagram for the whole of OpenStack? Something that specifically shows quantum, horizon, & keystone... | 17:11 |
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| weissa1 | anyone familiar with a KeyError: 'access' error in "auth_token.py" when executing a "glance details -A <token>" command? | 17:21 |
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| koolhead17 | esker: i think openstack doc has enough info on that. not sure about quantum though | 17:24 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #932915 in horizon "Horizon needs to support the new flavor format: root_gb + ephemeral_gb" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932915 | 17:38 |
| annegentle | koolhead17: esker: after yesterday's PPB meeting, there's a plan to doc a roadmap for quantum | 17:40 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #932925 in melange "duplicate mac address range" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932925 | 17:41 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #932927 in nova "glance xenserver plugin doesn't always retry" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932927 | 17:46 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #932928 in nova "Nova flavors api does not report ephemeral_gb" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932928 | 17:46 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #932930 in nova "novaclient --debug flag does not report inbound wire traffic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932930 | 17:46 |
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| chmouel | NashTrash: did you install from the packages? | 17:52 |
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| wabat | Hello all...If I install the Essex version of Openstack from github do I need to first install mysql or is that part of the setup? | 17:54 |
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| Daviey | wabat: why would you install from github? | 17:57 |
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| wabat | Is Essex available somewhere else? | 17:58 |
| Daviey | wabat: for production? no. | 17:58 |
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| Daviey | wabat: Ubuntu Precise carries Essex :) | 17:59 |
| wabat | Daviey: No, this is just for testing. Ubuntu Precise? Can you tell me more about that? | 17:59 |
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| wabat | Daviey: Thank you...I was unaware of that. I'll have to install that | 18:03 |
| Daviey | wabat: great, love to hear how you get on | 18:04 |
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| wabat | Daviey: I will let you know. I have a working version of compute using Diablo but spent alot of time getting it to work. I'm hoping Essex is easier to setup. | 18:10 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #932951 in keystone "keystone cli --debug does not report inbound wire traffic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932951 | 18:15 |
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| kbringard | is anyone using multi_host networking mode? | 18:21 |
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| kodapa | kbringard: yes | 18:21 |
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| kbringard | are you using it with VLAN or FlatDHCP? | 18:21 |
| kodapa | kbringard: vlan | 18:21 |
| kbringard | OK, I have some questions, if you don't mind | 18:21 |
| kodapa | kbringard: may take a while before I answer | 18:22 |
| kbringard | no worries | 18:22 |
| frankS2 | What virtualization technology do openstack use? KVM? | 18:22 |
| kodapa | frankS2: KVM | 18:22 |
| kbringard | frankS2: KVM, Xen… it supports others as well | 18:22 |
| kbringard | but KVM is the "default" afaik | 18:22 |
| frankS2 | does it use anything as default? | 18:22 |
| frankS2 | okey | 18:22 |
| kbringard | kodapa: so basically, the problem I am seeing is | 18:22 |
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| kbringard | when I assign a VM a floating IP, it can no longer talk to another VM in the same project/VLAN that doesn't | 18:23 |
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| kbringard | because, as soon as the packet hits the bridge, the NAT takes place, and the srcip is changed to the floating IP | 18:23 |
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| kbringard | the other VM gets it, and is able to reply to it | 18:23 |
| kbringard | the packet routes back, but then the dom0 gets it | 18:23 |
| kbringard | and the reverse path filter drops it | 18:23 |
| kbringard | because it sees it coming in the public route, with a private srcip | 18:23 |
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| kbringard | this same issue applies to the standard model as well, but because the NAT doesn't happen until the edge, it doesn't really affect VM to VM traffic | 18:24 |
| kbringard | I was wondering if you were seeing this same thing | 18:24 |
| kbringard | or if I just have my stuff setup wrong | 18:24 |
| kbringard | I can get around it by disabling (or even setting to "loose" the RPF settings in the kernel | 18:25 |
| kbringard | but that opens us up to other potential issues, such as packet spoofing | 18:25 |
| WormMan | multi host works great for me :) | 18:26 |
| kbringard | WormMan: can you assign a floating IP to one VM in a project and have it talk to another VM without a floating IP?> | 18:27 |
| kbringard | if you read back, I'm having issues with the srcip for VM1 getting changed to the floating IP at the bridge | 18:28 |
| WormMan | yep, traffic to an IP on the project is not natted, traffic to any other IP(any different subnet) follows the normal default gateway, hits the nat and goes out the public | 18:28 |
| kbringard | so basically, as soon as it leaves the VM | 18:28 |
| kbringard | hrmmm | 18:28 |
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| kbringard | why is that not working for me... | 18:29 |
| kbringard | when I assign a floating IP, it's getting NAT'd as soon as it hits the bridge | 18:29 |
| kbringard | since the DNAT rule is a prerouting rule | 18:29 |
| WormMan | I'm not at work so I can't check anything today, but I can say it works for me(tm) | 18:30 |
| kbringard | and by multi-host, you mean, you have a NC on every compute node, which acts as the default route for the VMs on said compute node | 18:30 |
| WormMan | yep | 18:30 |
| kbringard | wtf | 18:30 |
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| kbringard | are you using VLAN or FlatDHCP? | 18:31 |
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| WormMan | VLAN | 18:32 |
| kbringard | so weird | 18:32 |
| kbringard | ok, well that's good to know | 18:32 |
| Spirilis | hm | 18:37 |
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| * Spirilis might need to try this experiment | 18:37 | |
| kbringard | Spirilis: mine? | 18:37 |
| Spirilis | kbringard: yeah | 18:38 |
| Spirilis | booting up a 2nd VM right now to test | 18:38 |
| kbringard | I'd be curious to see what you find | 18:38 |
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| kbringard | because like I said… on my compute nodes, the Floating IP DNAT rule is a preroute rule | 18:38 |
| Spirilis | yeah | 18:38 |
| Spirilis | seems like that would be a hole in the multi_host architecture | 18:38 |
| kbringard | right, which I was going to talk to Vish about | 18:39 |
| kbringard | but, WormMan said it works fine for him | 18:39 |
| kbringard | I'm kind of confused how it would work | 18:39 |
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| Spirilis | ok, fwiw, I have no problem pinging between them either. | 18:44 |
| Spirilis | vm "test1" has a floating IP, test2 does not | 18:44 |
| Spirilis | test1 can ping test2's 192.168.20.* fixed_ip addr, test2 can ping test1's fixed_ip addr as well as its floating IP, no problems. | 18:45 |
| Spirilis | give me a few minutes and I'll dump some more detailed information into a pastebin | 18:45 |
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| Spirilis | kbringard: http://paste.openstack.org/show/4829/ | 19:03 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #932998 in nova "euca-describe-instances no longer includes an instance's ip address" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932998 | 19:18 |
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| kbringard | Spirilis: thanks | 19:39 |
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| Spirilis | also my rp_filter's are = 1 | 19:39 |
| kbringard | hmmm, how weird | 19:39 |
| Spirilis | however bear in mind I'm using eth0 for everything | 19:39 |
| Spirilis | eth0 is vlan tagged so my private vlans run over eth0 too | 19:39 |
| Spirilis | not sure if that makes a diff or not | 19:39 |
| kbringard | errrr… so the 10.104.51.x/24 are your floating IPs? | 19:40 |
| kbringard | and those attach to eth0? | 19:40 |
| Spirilis | yeah 10.104.51.192/28 or so | 19:40 |
| kbringard | hmmm, I bet that's why it works | 19:40 |
| Spirilis | 10.104.51.0/24 is on eth0's default vlan, so each server has its 10.104.51.141, 142, 143 addr on eth0 | 19:41 |
| kbringard | because the interface it's coming in on | 19:41 |
| kbringard | has a route to both | 19:41 |
| kbringard | on mine | 19:41 |
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| Spirilis | yeah | 19:41 |
| kbringard | I have eth2 is my public, and eth3 is my private | 19:41 |
| kbringard | so it's coming in on eth2 | 19:41 |
| kbringard | which is dropping it, because there is no route to the private space on that iface | 19:41 |
| WormMan | I have vlan100 for external and vlan400 for project and it works great for me :) | 19:41 |
| kbringard | WormMan: so you have eth0.200 with the public route, and eth0.400 for the privae? | 19:42 |
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| WormMan | yep | 19:42 |
| WormMan | (and eth0 itself for the management net) | 19:42 |
| kbringard | hrmmm | 19:42 |
| kbringard | my tcpdumps look like Spirilis | 19:42 |
| kbringard | WormMan: are you using real IP space for your floating IPs? | 19:43 |
| WormMan | yep | 19:43 |
| kbringard | or other internals | 19:43 |
| kbringard | freaking weird | 19:43 |
| Spirilis | hmm | 19:45 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #933012 in nova "InstanceNotFound exceptions should not log stack traces in compute logs" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/933012 | 19:45 |
| kbringard | yea, my tcpdmps look like yours… I see internal -> internal when no floaters are assigned | 19:46 |
| kbringard | then when I assign a floater, I see the ARP update | 19:46 |
| kbringard | and the srcip changes to the floater | 19:46 |
| kbringard | then I see the reply on the dom0 | 19:46 |
| kbringard | but it never makes it to the VM | 19:46 |
| kbringard | the originating VM's dom0, I mean | 19:46 |
| Spirilis | ahhhhhh | 19:47 |
| Spirilis | gotcha. | 19:47 |
| Spirilis | does it work with rp_filter = 0? | 19:47 |
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| kbringard | yea | 19:47 |
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| kbringard | as soon as I disable rp_filtering it starts working | 19:47 |
| kbringard | so I mean, I know that's my issue | 19:48 |
| kbringard | what I don't get is why it works for you guys | 19:48 |
| Spirilis | I can't think of any clean way around that then... | 19:48 |
| kbringard | and not me :-) | 19:48 |
| Spirilis | besides forcing rp_filter = 0, and conceding that your environment is complex enough to disable it. | 19:48 |
| kbringard | yea… I mean | 19:48 |
| kbringard | we do some funky stuff | 19:48 |
| kbringard | we do 802.3ad bonding on eth2 and eth3 | 19:49 |
| kbringard | then we do vlan tagging on the bond | 19:49 |
| Spirilis | otoh, I bet if I put my floating IPs on a different vlan on a different interface things might be different | 19:49 |
| WormMan | nowhere near what I do :) | 19:49 |
| kbringard | so like, public is bond0.200 | 19:49 |
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| kbringard | VM traffic is bond0.$project_vlan | 19:49 |
| kbringard | and it's all in different L3 space | 19:50 |
| kbringard | so the traffic is like | 19:50 |
| WormMan | your default gatway on the physical host is out the bond0.200 net and the gateway there? | 19:50 |
| kbringard | yea | 19:50 |
| kbringard | bond0.200 is the default gateway, and it has the public IPs on it | 19:50 |
| WormMan | and the phys host has proper routes to all connected networks | 19:50 |
| kbringard | yep | 19:50 |
| kbringard | but like I said | 19:50 |
| kbringard | and what Spirilis tcpdumps echo | 19:50 |
| kbringard | the NAT happens as soon as the traffic hits the bridge | 19:51 |
| WormMan | not for me :) | 19:51 |
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| kbringard | yea, I'd be curious to see tcpdumps | 19:51 |
| WormMan | I vaguely remember seeing that, but either I added a route or something and it's all happy now | 19:51 |
| kbringard | or for you to look at them | 19:51 |
| Spirilis | which pings don't work? all of them? | 19:52 |
| kbringard | correct, so like | 19:52 |
| kbringard | VM1 and VM2 | 19:52 |
| kbringard | if neither has a floating IP | 19:52 |
| kbringard | then I can ping VM1 -> VM2 on internal, and visa versa | 19:52 |
| kbringard | if both have a floating IP | 19:52 |
| kbringard | then I can ping both ways | 19:52 |
| kbringard | if only one, or the other, have a floating IP | 19:53 |
| kbringard | the traffic goes round trip, but is dropped at the originating VM's dom0 | 19:53 |
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| kbringard | because, like your tcpdumps show | 19:53 |
| Spirilis | how's the traffic flow, from say VM2 to VM1 (VM1 having the floating) | 19:53 |
| kbringard | the srcip of VM1 changes to the floating | 19:53 |
| kbringard | it goes | 19:53 |
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| kbringard | VM1 -> br2001 (NAT happens here) -> dom0 bond0.2001 (the project vlan, beause it's destined for the projects internal network) -> switch -> other dom0 -> br2001 -> VM2 -> br2001 -> VM2's dom0 bond0.200 (public, because it's destined for a public IP)-> switch -> VM1's dom0 (bond0.200, public) | 19:55 |
| kbringard | that's where it drops it | 19:55 |
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| kbringard | because srcip = 10.0.0.1, but bond0.200 has no route to that network | 19:56 |
| kbringard | so rp_filter kills it | 19:56 |
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| kbringard | I have not tried it, but I think setting rp_filter = 2 should work | 19:56 |
| kbringard | because in "loose" mode | 19:56 |
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| kbringard | it'll allow traffic if *any* interface has a route to the srcip network | 19:57 |
| kbringard | WormMan: is it possible your default route is the management network? | 19:57 |
| Spirilis | I thought rp_filter=2 was the more stringent variety? | 19:57 |
| Spirilis | or maybe not | 19:57 |
| kbringard | naw, 1 is strict | 19:57 |
| kbringard | 0 is off | 19:57 |
| kbringard | 2 is loose | 19:57 |
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| Spirilis | ah k | 19:58 |
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| Spirilis | yeah, that sounds like a best practice for multi_host I guess | 19:59 |
| kbringard | yea… but the other issue is | 19:59 |
| Spirilis | that might still happen even with FlatDHCP and multi_host right? | 19:59 |
| kbringard | it'll break source-group authorize groups | 19:59 |
| kbringard | yea, I think so | 19:59 |
| kbringard | the source-group authorize groups only allow the internal IP of the machines in the allowed source-group | 19:59 |
| kbringard | but, as even your tcpdumps show | 19:59 |
| kbringard | the srcip of a machine with a floater, is the floater | 19:59 |
| Spirilis | yeah | 19:59 |
| Spirilis | what's the source-group authorize groups? the secgroups? | 20:00 |
| kbringard | yea | 20:00 |
| Spirilis | aye | 20:00 |
| kbringard | basically, you have a db group and a web group, lets say | 20:00 |
| kbringard | and you say web group can access db group | 20:00 |
| kbringard | it'll dynamically update the iptables rules | 20:00 |
| kbringard | as you launch VMs in the web group | 20:00 |
| kbringard | to let them talk to the DB group | 20:00 |
| WormMan | kbringard: one of my default routes is the management network, the other is the public net :) | 20:00 |
| kbringard | hmmm, I only have one default route | 20:01 |
| kbringard | wonder if that's my problem | 20:01 |
| WormMan | (the joys of routing table rulesets) | 20:01 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #933034 in keystone "keystone-redux problem creating user with default tenant" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/933034 | 20:01 |
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| Spirilis | the secgroup ramifications are definitely a head scratcher | 20:02 |
| kbringard | Spirilis: yea… you'd basically have to allocate N number of floating IPs to your project | 20:03 |
| Spirilis | being able to assign a 2nd NIC to your VM and bind the floating IP to that would be the only sensible route IMO | 20:03 |
| kbringard | then allow those as /32 rules | 20:03 |
| kbringard | yea, that's where quantum comes in | 20:03 |
| kbringard | like, in Quantum right now you can create a public and private network | 20:04 |
| Spirilis | ah, quantum is something I haven't touched yet :) | 20:04 |
| kbringard | assign the public IP directly to nic1 and the private directly to nic0 | 20:04 |
| kbringard | or whatevewr | 20:04 |
| Spirilis | gotcha | 20:04 |
| kbringard | it's pretty keen, but still kind of alpha | 20:05 |
| kbringard | and you have to have an output plugin that knows what to do to talk to the switches or whatever, to properly manage the dataflows | 20:05 |
| kbringard | quantum is still pretty new, don't think many people have played with it much | 20:06 |
| kbringard | I think it'll have it's real coming out with Essex | 20:07 |
| kbringard | its* | 20:07 |
| kbringard | damn grammar | 20:07 |
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| Spirilis | it's a software switching layer right? | 20:07 |
| kbringard | well, it's an API to setup the switching layer | 20:08 |
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| kbringard | so nova makes network API calls to quantum, which sends them out via a plugin | 20:08 |
| kbringard | that plugin can talk to whatever | 20:08 |
| kbringard | hardware switches, software switches | 20:08 |
| kbringard | load balancers | 20:08 |
| Spirilis | ahh k | 20:08 |
| kbringard | etc | 20:08 |
| armaan | Hi folks, I have this scenario, where i have 26 computers. On all of them i have to install ubuntu image with vlc and some plugins. Can i use openstack to avoid installing the same image on 26 computers. I was thinking if i can use private cloud for this. | 20:08 |
| kbringard | WormMan: would you mind showing us what your routing table looks like, on the dom0? | 20:09 |
| kbringard | feel free to mask IPs to protect the innocent, etc | 20:09 |
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| kbringard | armaan: I don't entirely understand… you're talking about using those 26 machines as compute nodes and then launching 26 VMs? | 20:12 |
| WormMan | kbringard: sure, tomorrow, when I'm at work :) | 20:12 |
| kbringard | WormMan: cool, thanks :-) | 20:12 |
| Spirilis | kbringard: would it make sense for it to add the floating IP rule as an SNAT in POSTROUTING? not sure if that's possible | 20:12 |
| kbringard | the security group thing>? | 20:13 |
| phschwartz | What service does the snapshotting? All my snapshots appear to be stuck at the Queue state. | 20:13 |
| Spirilis | not the secgroup, the actual SNAT that translates a VM's srcip to the floater instead | 20:13 |
| kbringard | ah | 20:13 |
| kbringard | erm, I'd have to think about that | 20:13 |
| Spirilis | that way it only SNAT translates a VM's traffic to its floater if it's heading out some kind of public default gw interface | 20:13 |
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| Spirilis | so those who have their default gw on the interface where their floating IPs are... | 20:14 |
| Spirilis | traffic going out there coming from VM1's fixed_ip gets SNAT'ted only after routing has been consulted/calculated | 20:14 |
| Spirilis | the iptables cmd would have to have a -o <publicIF> in there | 20:14 |
| Spirilis | so traffic going to other internal VMs would go out a different interface and not trip that rule | 20:15 |
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| kbringard | OK, I see what you're saying | 20:16 |
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| kbringard | hmm, I dunno | 20:16 |
| armaan | i want to launch 26 vms on one server, which can be accessed over LAN | 20:16 |
| kbringard | armaan: then a private cloud would allow you to do that | 20:16 |
| armaan | can you tell me some source, website or documentation related to it. | 20:18 |
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| kbringard | Spirilis: I'm not enough of an iptables expert to know… I'd have to think about it | 20:18 |
| kbringard | armaan: www.openstack.org | 20:18 |
| armaan | i mean how to build and configure a private cloud using openstack | 20:18 |
| kbringard | there are wiki and documentation links there | 20:19 |
| kbringard | that's a good place to start | 20:19 |
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| armaan | thanx .. :) | 20:19 |
| kbringard | the easiest way is usually to install Ubuntu 11.10 on your server and then apt-get install the packages | 20:19 |
| Spirilis | kbringard: err, nevermind, it already does | 20:20 |
| kbringard | but I mean, every environment is different, so there isn't really a one size fits all howto | 20:20 |
| Spirilis | SNAT can't be added to PREROUTING, only POSTROUTING | 20:20 |
| kbringard | yea, the DNAT in prerouting is the problem | 20:20 |
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| kbringard | which I mean, you need | 20:20 |
| Spirilis | so now I'm even more confused | 20:20 |
| kbringard | but it means that the srcip changes before the packet ever knows where to go | 20:20 |
| kbringard | that's why | 20:20 |
| WormMan | but dnat should only trigger when something hits the public IP and is translated to the internal IP | 20:20 |
| kbringard | if you look at your tcpdumps | 20:20 |
| kbringard | I think DNAT is is for outgoing | 20:21 |
| shraddha_ | how to know on which port horizon is running? I | 20:22 |
| kbringard | well, damn, now I'm confused, too | 20:22 |
| kbringard | haha | 20:22 |
| shraddha_ | after devstack installation, I can see horizon is now available at http://10.17.1.1/ keystone is serving at http://10.17.1.1:5000/v2.0/ | 20:22 |
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| kbringard | shraddha_: http:// with no port indicator is 80 | 20:22 |
| shraddha_ | but there is no process listening on port 5000 | 20:22 |
| shraddha_ | kbringard: thanks, but I cant connect to it still | 20:23 |
| praefect | XCP 1.5 was released yesterday for those interested | 20:23 |
| praefect | I'm testing it currently, GPU passthrough works fine | 20:23 |
| kbringard | damn, too much going on at once | 20:24 |
| Spirilis | kbringard: no DNAT is for incoming traffic hitting that floater | 20:24 |
| praefect | a very nice feature that is coming from the pricier XenServer Enterprise | 20:24 |
| kbringard | Spirilis: right, yea, that's why I'm getting confused | 20:24 |
| Spirilis | kbringard: SNAT is what's translating your VM1's fixed_ip into its floater | 20:24 |
| Spirilis | yeah | 20:24 |
| frankS2 | praefect: are you using XCP with openstack? | 20:24 |
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| kbringard | I need to go back and look at my iptables | 20:24 |
| Spirilis | SNAT has to go into POSTROUTING, DNAT has to go into PREROUTING | 20:24 |
| praefect | yes, kind of, my main cloud is KVM but I've tested XCP and XenServer with openstack | 20:24 |
| praefect | it works | 20:24 |
| praefect | the integration is not yet at the level of kvm but still... I think it's better in essex, two points missing for me are security-groups (fixed in essex I think) and the fact that there is no local cache for images, so everytime I spawn a 30GB windows I have to wait 5 minutes.. | 20:26 |
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| kbringard | Spirilis: OK… hrmmm…. then how come… when every dom0 has a static route on the project vlan interface | 20:26 |
| kbringard | why is it still NATing the packet | 20:26 |
| praefect | besides that, I'm able to run VMs and server clients, the most important thing for us is GPU passthrough and this is only happening in XCP (xen) | 20:26 |
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| kbringard | like what WormMan said, it should just send it over the project vlan wire and not touch it | 20:27 |
| praefect | and it works very well with Xen hypervisor 4.1 and 4.2 (XCP 1.5 and XenServer 6.0 are using xen hypervisor 4.1) | 20:27 |
| kbringard | the SNAT is happening postroute | 20:28 |
| kbringard | so it should be like, hey, this packet needs to go there | 20:28 |
| praefect | Xen really did a great job with GPU passthrough, just for this feature we will always run a XCP zone in our cloud | 20:28 |
| kbringard | and not touch it | 20:28 |
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| kbringard | or, no, wait | 20:28 |
| kbringard | it is sending out the right interface | 20:28 |
| kbringard | it's coming back on the wrong one | 20:28 |
| kbringard | because it's routing it out vlan2001 or whatever | 20:28 |
| kbringard | but the SNAT is still changing the srcip postroute | 20:29 |
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| kbringard | so like you said, you'd need to apply the SNAT to only specific interfaces | 20:29 |
| Spirilis | kbringard: yeah | 20:30 |
| Spirilis | exactly | 20:30 |
| Spirilis | the actual code in diablo looks like: | 20:30 |
| kbringard | sorry, took me a sec to work it out | 20:30 |
| kbringard | :-) | 20:30 |
| Spirilis | def floating_forward_rules(floating_ip, fixed_ip): | 20:30 |
| Spirilis | return [('PREROUTING', '-d %s -j DNAT --to %s' % (floating_ip, fixed_ip)), | 20:30 |
| Spirilis | ('OUTPUT', '-d %s -j DNAT --to %s' % (floating_ip, fixed_ip)), | 20:30 |
| Spirilis | (sorry for the spam :-)) | 20:30 |
| Spirilis | ('float-snat', | 20:30 |
| Spirilis | '-s %s -j SNAT --to %s' % (fixed_ip, floating_ip))] | 20:30 |
| Spirilis | that last rule is it, no interface listed anywhere in there | 20:30 |
| kbringard | yea | 20:30 |
| Spirilis | maybe having -o %s and a reference to FLAGS(public_interface) or whatever | 20:31 |
| kbringard | yea | 20:31 |
| kbringard | that makes sense | 20:31 |
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| Spirilis | if I'm not mistaken hosts with multi_host=False would have this problem too if the VM happened to be on the one nova-network machine | 20:33 |
| Spirilis | er | 20:33 |
| Spirilis | maybe not | 20:33 |
| Spirilis | I shouldn't stretch my brain any further than it needs to lol | 20:34 |
| WormMan | still works great for me :) (but I suspect I have some magic routes that make it all work correctly) | 20:34 |
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| Spirilis | yeah, the secgroup implications still apply though | 20:34 |
| Spirilis | bottom line is VM-to-VM communication should always happen with the fixed_ip's | 20:34 |
| kbringard | Spirilis: right | 20:35 |
| kbringard | but | 20:35 |
| kbringard | the secgroup thing would work itself out | 20:36 |
| kbringard | since web -> DB or whatever | 20:36 |
| kbringard | would not touch the srcip | 20:36 |
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| kbringard | so the IPtables filters would still match on the accept | 20:36 |
| kbringard | since the srcip would the web VMs internal | 20:36 |
| Spirilis | it would? wouldn't it run into the same issue you're seeing? | 20:37 |
| kbringard | I don't think so… because, it's just VM -> VM communication | 20:37 |
| WormMan | we don't apply security groups to fixed IPs, maybe that's the difference | 20:37 |
| WormMan | (only public) | 20:37 |
| kbringard | Internet -> DNAT -> web VM -> prject VLAN interface -> DB VM | 20:37 |
| kbringard | the internet packet isn't going directly to the DB server | 20:38 |
| WormMan | (on the project VLAN it's just a wild west free for all) | 20:38 |
| kbringard | the web server is talking to the DB server, and that would be all internal | 20:38 |
| Spirilis | aye but without having SNAT with -o <publicIF> in there, the web->DB would get its srcip rewritten to its floater before hitting up the DB's fixed_ip right? | 20:38 |
| kbringard | project VLANs have sec groups applied to them | 20:38 |
| Spirilis | ah nm | 20:38 |
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| WormMan | kbringard: they can, we don't enable it | 20:38 |
| kbringard | ah | 20:39 |
| kbringard | I do | 20:39 |
| kbringard | allow_same_net_traffic = false :-) | 20:39 |
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| kbringard | or whatever the flag is these days | 20:39 |
| kbringard | Spirilis: what I don't know | 20:39 |
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| kbringard | is how this would work on FlahDHCP | 20:39 |
| WormMan | I'm re-building our test cloud over the next little while, that's one thing we'll be testing | 20:39 |
| kbringard | since… in VLAN mode there are multiple routers | 20:39 |
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| kbringard | each of which gets a unique interface for each VLAN | 20:40 |
| kbringard | but, if you only have one bridge device | 20:40 |
| kbringard | and that also happens to be your public routed device | 20:40 |
| kbringard | the SNAT rule would still match, right? | 20:40 |
| kbringard | since -o eth0 would be internal and externally bound traffic? | 20:40 |
| Spirilis | yeah, although you don't have to do flatdhcp with just 1 if | 20:41 |
| Spirilis | could have that br100 be on eth1 | 20:41 |
| kbringard | yea, good point | 20:41 |
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| kbringard | assuming your dom0 has more than one eth device :-D | 20:41 |
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| Spirilis | indeed... the way mine are configured they don't | 20:41 |
| kbringard | I don't know enough about FlatDHCP to know | 20:41 |
| Spirilis | (actually, they do, I'm just not using eth1 for the heck of it) | 20:41 |
| kbringard | I do recall something about having to use brxxx and eth0 or something | 20:41 |
| kbringard | int he nova.conf | 20:41 |
| kbringard | so perhaps that's where the differentiation would happen | 20:42 |
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| Spirilis | yeah in flatdhcp the bridge is usually called br100, and it's bound to a private interface of some kind | 20:42 |
| Spirilis | which for some people eth0 is it, and that works fine :) | 20:42 |
| kbringard | right, since to the routing table it's a "different" interface | 20:42 |
| Spirilis | I guess having this quirk being an option to turn on/off would be a logical choice | 20:44 |
| kbringard | wow, I feel like I both accomplished and learned something today | 20:45 |
| WormMan | (my other fun is going to be expanding my public IP space to multiple VLANs... sigh) | 20:46 |
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| kbringard | hah | 20:48 |
| kbringard | good luck :-) | 20:48 |
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| kbringard | I was actually talking about that exact thing | 20:48 |
| kbringard | I have a /20 of externals | 20:49 |
| kbringard | it would be nice to shard it up to like, /23s on their own VLANs | 20:49 |
| kbringard | to manage broadcast domains | 20:49 |
| Spirilis | how do you manage that with the existing code? | 20:50 |
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| Spirilis | or is it not possible/requires lots of hacks :-) | 20:50 |
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| kbringard | you don't | 20:50 |
| kbringard | it's not possible | 20:50 |
| Spirilis | didn't think so | 20:50 |
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| kbringard | I think Essex adds a lot of functionality to allow it | 20:50 |
| Spirilis | ahh | 20:50 |
| kbringard | like it lets you tie a floating range to a specific interface | 20:50 |
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| kbringard | and you can create multiple floating networks, like you do with fixed | 20:50 |
| Spirilis | once that kind of thing is implemented, I think my workplace will suddenly become quite interested | 20:50 |
| Remco_ | has anyone configured multiple fixed ips per vm before? I see in database that the tables are ready, but don't know if there are any console applications for adding extra fixed ip to vm | 20:50 |
| kbringard | yea | 20:51 |
| Spirilis | since we'll be able to assign openstack VMs to our various DMZs | 20:51 |
| kbringard | yep | 20:51 |
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| phschwartz | Anyone seen an issue before at start up with mounting of ephemeral disks in rc.local where it reports back no location when it should? After the node is up I can do the curl again and get a response. | 20:54 |
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| kbringard | OK, I need to go pack, headed to SFO | 20:58 |
| kbringard | have a good one, guys | 20:58 |
| kbringard | thanks for talking that through with me Spirilis | 20:58 |
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| Spirilis | np, have a good flight :) | 20:59 |
| Spirilis | SFO's waiting area was one of the nicer views I've seen in an airport lol | 20:59 |
| WormMan | (it's python, everything is possible, it's turing complete :) ) | 21:03 |
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| phschwartz | Someone mind looking at this console snippet from my rc.local running. http://paste.openstack.org/show/4830/ | 21:15 |
| phschwartz | the curl call to get the ephemeral0 is taking 12 seconds to populate in the meta data and I think that is not right. | 21:16 |
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| phschwartz | What would cause ephemeral that long to be set? | 21:21 |
| phschwartz | And the 12 sec is not always the same. Just waited 27 | 21:21 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #933076 in keystone "keystone-client tests fail on RHEL" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/933076 | 21:33 |
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| Glace_ | Do you have to add the other proxy servers in /etc/memcached.conf or only in the proxy-server.conf? | 21:37 |
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| vishy | phschwartz: does any other metadata work? | 21:42 |
| vishy | phschwartz: my guess would be that the route isn't up yet or something along those lines | 21:42 |
| phschwartz | vishy: yes. Prior to that issue I am getting the ssh keys from meta-data with no issue (the call right before the call for the disk) | 21:42 |
| phschwartz | I put in a cludge in my rc.local to sleep for 30 sec if the device is not set at the first call. I then look every 5 sec over the next 30 sec to get the disk and it can go 2-4 iterations of that before ephemeral0 is set | 21:43 |
| vishy | phschwartz: strange | 21:43 |
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| phschwartz | vishy: here is my rc.local with the cludge if you want to see it. http://paste.openstack.org/show/4832/ | 21:45 |
| phschwartz | The call for the key is fine, but it takes 20-50 sec basically before the disk is set. | 21:45 |
| phschwartz | This is in a debian 6.0.4 amd64 instance. | 21:45 |
| vishy | phschwartz: I can't think of anything that would be updating/changing the ephemeral that late in the process | 21:45 |
| phschwartz | On a centos 5.7 it was instant. | 21:45 |
| vishy | phschwartz: is this your own install? | 21:45 |
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| phschwartz | phschwartz: the debian instance, yes. I just created it earlier today. Only has base os and sshd. | 21:46 |
| phschwartz | lol, it put my name in there for some reason. lol | 21:46 |
| phschwartz | vishy: I will say though, this debian install gets to the rc.local 40-50 sec faster then the centos image I did. | 21:47 |
| vishy | phschwartz: i mean your own openstack install | 21:47 |
| phschwartz | Oh, it is diablo using kiall's scripts to install. | 21:47 |
| vishy | phschwartz: hmm, I'd have to look at how bdm was set in diablo, perhaps it took some time to update | 21:47 |
| phschwartz | All the ubuntu images from cloud-images work fine using cloud-init and the centos image worked fine. | 21:47 |
| vishy | phschwartz: i wouldn't think it has anything to do with your code though | 21:47 |
| vishy | phschwartz: what does curl say? | 21:48 |
| phschwartz | Where in the code is bdm set, I will look at the installed python | 21:48 |
| vishy | phschwartz: it just gets no value? | 21:48 |
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| phschwartz | vishy: curl -m 10 -s http://169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data/block-device-mapping/ is even blank for a bit there. | 21:49 |
| vishy | phschwartz: but the other stuff works? | 21:50 |
| phschwartz | vishy: curl -m 10 -s http://169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data/public-keys/0/openssh-key gets the key | 21:50 |
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| phschwartz | After the failure to get the disk I am able to ssh in fine with the key and did see the public key in the auth_keys | 21:51 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #933095 in tempest "Testcase: write a testcase for the creation and deletion of flavors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/933095 | 21:51 |
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| vishy | phschwartz: ah that doesn't necessaryily mean annything | 21:55 |
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| vishy | phschwartz: since keys are still injected as well | 21:55 |
| vishy | phschwartz: my guess that all metadata is failing | 21:55 |
| vishy | * is that | 21:55 |
| phschwartz | I am seeing the rc.local script return the key though. When outside of that would it be injected in a system without cloud-init? | 21:56 |
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| vishy | it gets injected into the image before boot | 21:58 |
| vishy | to support images that don't have cloud init | 21:59 |
| phschwartz | hmm, didn't know that. | 21:59 |
| phschwartz | So what would make meta-data take that long to populate then? as it does get populated, just takes a long time. | 22:00 |
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| vishy | phschwartz: it is hard to say without looking at the traffic. Perhaps the packets aren't getting routed properly right away? | 22:04 |
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| vishy | phschwartz: maybe an existing arp table entry is causing a delay? | 22:05 |
| phschwartz | vishy: is that even possible on just one instance type? | 22:05 |
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| vishy | phschwartz: possible yes, if it is a guest networking service | 22:05 |
| vishy | s/service/issue | 22:05 |
| vishy | phschwartz: you said that other ones come up much more slowly as well, so maybe it is hiding the delay on other instances | 22:06 |
| phschwartz | vishy: hmm, that could be possible. | 22:06 |
| vishy | phschwartz: example, ubuntu desktop version had some wierd interactions with network-manager | 22:06 |
| vishy | phschwartz: network-manager set up a local loopback route, so it would actually arp for the ip address before trying to hit it | 22:07 |
| vishy | phschwartz: so there was a different result in ubuntu server vs ubuntu desktop | 22:07 |
| vishy | phschwartz: we fixed that by allowing the metadata server to arp for 169.254.169.254 | 22:07 |
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| vishy | phschwartz: but it works differently based on a different guest | 22:08 |
| phschwartz | vishy: There is a localhost setting for the systems host setup by default. I can mess with it some and see if it changes. | 22:08 |
| vishy | phschwartz: so it is possible that the metadata service could take longer to work properly based on the startup order of the guest networking | 22:08 |
| vishy | phschwartz: i think you'd really have to start tcpdumping on the guest, host, and metadata host | 22:09 |
| vishy | and see what is going on | 22:09 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #933073 in keystone "keystone-client tests fail on RHEL" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/933073 | 22:09 |
| vishy | phschwartz: the metadata server is also really slow, and you could have some odd scenario where it is blocking based on a whole bunch of concurrent db requests | 22:10 |
| vishy | phschwartz: and the whole thing is a red-herring! | 22:10 |
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| warik | oh hi! Does anyone here has some knowledge regarding the projects' quotas/ | 22:13 |
| warik | ? | 22:13 |
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| Ma3oxuct | it tried to increase quota limits for storage, ram and everyelse, but that didn't help | 22:45 |
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| mrGrazy_ | *whether | 22:55 |
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