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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031998 in nova "nova-novncproxy needs an additional argument to websickify constructor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031998 | 00:36 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032022 in devstack "devstack do not update stack-screenrc if screen already exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032022 | 03:01 |
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| marrabld | Once I have booted a VM and logged in via ssh using mmy .pem key. Is it possible to add local vm users accounts so that can other users can ssh in to the vm in the usual ssh way? | 05:49 |
| cryptk | yes | 05:51 |
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| cryptk | once it is booted, you can administer it and work with it just like you would any linux system | 05:51 |
| marrabld | Thanks cryptk. I am getting a public key error for the user account I added so I must have done something wrong. At least I know where to look for my error. Cheers | 05:54 |
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| evil_steve | ...your pem key? | 06:08 |
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| * cryptk assumed he meant his public and private SSH keys | 06:15 | |
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| marrabld | no pem key worked fine. setup a local user pushed their ssh key to .ssh/authorized_keys <-- misspelled and made error. Fixed now and all is good. Thanks | 06:20 |
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| alex88 | hi guys, i'm trying to delete a network, i have no instances running, nova list is empty and nova-manage network delete gives Network 6 is still in use. what should i do? | 07:13 |
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| zynzel | alex88: select * from fixed_ips where network_id=6 | 07:19 |
| alex88 | zynzel, returns all the ip of that network | 07:20 |
| alex88 | oh, some of them has an instance id on it | 07:21 |
| alex88 | and it's allocated | 07:21 |
| alex88 | but i've deleted the vm.. | 07:22 |
| alex88 | i'm using flatdhcp and i've started a vm which was getting one ip for each network, but it failed to spawn | 07:23 |
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| zynzel | alex88: so deallocate ip in db and then delete | 07:27 |
| alex88 | zynzel, thanks it worked, now i've deleted all networks, created 2 networks each with a project id, starting a new vm gives IndexError: list index out of range in logs | 07:29 |
| alex88 | maybe --project-id= works only in vlan mode? | 07:29 |
| zynzel | alex88: probably yes, we dont use project_id for fixed ips | 07:29 |
| alex88 | zynzel, so i need to use a bigger netmask… maybe i'll try to switch to vlan | 07:30 |
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| alex88 | btw, zynzel, you know what nova dns-* commands are for? is there a way to use hostnames for getting the vm ip? | 07:30 |
| SkyMan | zynzel: that was my question yesterday :) | 07:31 |
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| SkyMan | Hi stackers, i am wondering what is the default storage mecanism for the OS VMs ?? | 07:36 |
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| alex88 | SkyMan, what you mean with storage mechanism? afaik vms are stored into /var/lib/nova/instances/ | 07:37 |
| SkyMan | anyone to answer my question ? | 07:38 |
| SkyMan | Ahh Good then | 07:38 |
| SkyMan | Excuse me but whats nova volumes are good for then ? | 07:38 |
| SkyMan | alex88: is there a way to make VMs stored in another place like a san virtual disk for example to ease live migration :) | 07:40 |
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| alex88 | SkyMan, i'm using a shared fs, just mount the /var/lib/nova/instances on all the hosts ;) | 07:41 |
| moj0rising | Can anyone give me a rough estimate on how long it should take for a small VM to build? I'm waiting for one to finish now. There are no errors in the logs but it has been going for 15 minutes, which seems long. | 07:41 |
| SkyMan | alex88: Smart move :) | 07:42 |
| alex88 | moj0rising, it is, it should be like 30 seconds | 07:42 |
| SkyMan | moj0rising: you VM is surely stuck at some place | 07:42 |
| SkyMan | moj0rising: do nova show "vm name" | 07:43 |
| SkyMan | moj0rising: it will give you the current task | 07:43 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032053 in nova "Get flavors with both minDisk and minRam filters returns bad request instead of display matched flavors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032053 | 07:44 |
| SkyMan | alex88: openstack services are all installed on the fs or just some of them ? | 07:45 |
| alex88 | "are all installed on the fs" what you mean? | 07:45 |
| alex88 | actually i'm using shared folders for glance images and nova instances | 07:45 |
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| SkyMan | alex88: ahh i though you installed openstack on the same disk for all nodes | 07:47 |
| SkyMan | i a bit noob when it come to multi hosts :( | 07:47 |
| alex88 | SkyMan, no, i don't think that's possible, but i'm managing all openstack services using pacemaker in ha mode | 07:47 |
| SkyMan | alex88: okay, for the dns, i asked zynzel yesterday about it and he replied that | 07:48 |
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| SkyMan | alex88: he is using powerdns and a view to query floating ip addresses from nova database | 07:49 |
| SkyMan | alex88: do you understand me ? | 07:49 |
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| alex88 | never heard about powerdns | 07:53 |
| alex88 | so he's running a dns server in the network, which gets the hostnames/ip from the db | 07:54 |
| moj0rising | Ah. Sorry I missed your comments, there... | 07:54 |
| moj0rising | The current status is build | 07:55 |
| alex88 | SkyMan, checkout planet.openstack.org it has some nice articles ;) | 07:55 |
| alex88 | about ha, shared storage etc | 07:55 |
| moj0rising | The progress is "0" | 07:55 |
| moj0rising | so does this mean it hasn't even really started? | 07:56 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032066 in nova "Creating Image with name as special characters does not raise any error message" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032066 | 07:56 |
| SkyMan | alex88: thanks :) , btw, is there a command to start all os services with one command ? | 07:57 |
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| kviiri | write the commands to a file and run as script | 08:00 |
| moj0rising | alex88, SkyMan, Any ideas on where I can look for clues on what's going on with the vms? | 08:03 |
| SkyMan | moj0rising: like i said do nova show "vm name" , more details will be found at nova log | 08:04 |
| SkyMan | kviiri: thanks :) | 08:04 |
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| kviiri | :) | 08:05 |
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| kviiri | The first ~30 times I had to restart everything: "I guess I'll just type them out, I won't have top do this anymore later on so why bother making a script" | 08:07 |
| moj0rising | SkyMan: There isn't anything there beyond what I printed in the channel. The logs have no entries in them for the last few hours. :( Any other clues? | 08:08 |
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| SkyMan | alex88: yea zynzel has a dns server (powerdns ) that matches floating ips (extracted with views) with custom addresses | 08:21 |
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| SkyMan | moj0rising: when you do nova-manage service list , does any service shows at its state XXX ? | 08:22 |
| alex88 | SkyMan, seems a nice solution, too lazy now to install it :) | 08:22 |
| SkyMan | alex88: hhhh so am i :D | 08:22 |
| moj0rising | SkyMan: No. The State is :-) | 08:23 |
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| melmoth | I m looking at some doc on how to use ssl to authenticate in keystone. | 08:27 |
| melmoth | In the essex branch there s a doc/source/old/ssl.rst file. | 08:27 |
| melmoth | why is it in a "old" subdirectory ? | 08:28 |
| melmoth | is this somehing that is actually supposed to work ? If not, where to look at ? | 08:28 |
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| moj0rising | Well, I should be calling it a day. Thanks for your help, Skyman. Bummer I don't have it working yet but I'll be banging on this tomorrow and will probably report on my results somewhere for future googlers. | 08:35 |
| SkyMan | moj0rising: :) , Good luck then :) | 08:36 |
| moj0rising | Thanks. :) | 08:38 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032088 in swift "raise "TODO: Need to find an Exception to raise here." TypeError: exceptions must be old-style classes or derived from BaseException, not str" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032088 | 08:42 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032092 in nova "Invalid XML request is returning 500 ERROR instead of Bad Request 400 exception" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032092 | 08:56 |
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| diablo | hi ... in openstack for loading a new image openstack first links it to a base image and then stores the differences of the instances, can anybody point me to the file where all these things are coded | 10:06 |
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| diablo | hi i am fairly new to openstack .... can anybody help me on the above issue | 10:11 |
| melmoth | sorry, i must be newer than you, i have no idea about that :) | 10:14 |
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| melmoth | do you have any doc about the thing you are talking about, just to get an idea what seems to be the question ? | 10:14 |
| koolhead17 | diablo, glance developer doc helps | 10:15 |
| diablo | actually i got to know it from the forums | 10:16 |
| diablo | but i am not sure where it is coded | 10:17 |
| diablo | question is openstack uses a qcow2 image format ... when sveral instances run the same image the image is not replicated but a copy on write layer is used | 10:18 |
| diablo | using the base image | 10:18 |
| diablo | i think it happens in kvm-qemu | 10:19 |
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| melmoth | diablo, what about http://pastebin.com/r3Gya13C ? | 10:20 |
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| melmoth | diablo, what you could do is, add a python debugger breakpoint here, run nova-compute manually, launch an instance | 10:20 |
| melmoth | wait untill you got a prompt. Look at the backtrace, see what the heck was nova doing just before ? | 10:21 |
| diablo | melmoth, thanks ... let me look at the code maybe i will figure out something | 10:22 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032118 in openstack-manuals "Example implemetation path needs correction in class ExtensionsManager in nova/api/openstack/extensions.py " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032118 | 10:36 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032122 in devstack "Incorrect XenServer tools being installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032122 | 10:36 |
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| diablo | melmoth, it seems that openstack calls an external command "qemu-img" ... so if I need to change something over there then I have to change the how qemu-img is implemented | 10:45 |
| diablo | is there any other way by which i can change that | 10:46 |
| melmoth | to be honest, i have no real idea how that works. I just looked for qcow2 in the nova code, hoping to find something related | 10:47 |
| melmoth | but this is something i never got in touch with | 10:47 |
| diablo | ok i see | 10:47 |
| trygvis | if you just want to do some testing you can always replace the qemu-img command | 10:47 |
| diablo | but if i want to change how qemu implements qcow2 so as to modify it | 10:48 |
| diablo | btw is qemu-img part of the openstack project | 10:48 |
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| trygvis | on my box it's a part of the qemu-utils package so I doubt it | 10:49 |
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| diablo | ok ... so if i need to change it i cant do it thru openstack code, right? ... i need to basicallly change the qemu source code | 10:53 |
| diablo | and then link openstack or something | 10:53 |
| trygvis | well, you wouldn't have to do anything with openstack as it would just call your new binaries | 10:54 |
| diablo | yah right | 10:54 |
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| diablo | i wanted to mean it is a separate binary which openstack uses in it's project | 10:55 |
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| trygvis | hm, my instance is running and seems to have gotten an IP. but I can't ping nor ssh to it | 11:25 |
| trygvis | I see a vnet0 interface and it's connected to br100. br100 has the ip 10.0.0.1, the instance has .2 | 11:26 |
| trygvis | icmp and tcp, port=22 should be allowed as far as I can tell from secgroup-list-rules | 11:27 |
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| [1]alexn6 | try to see console log or grep kvm procecc, fin vnc port and connect to it | 11:28 |
| trygvis | I have the console log, it seems to have booted just fine | 11:29 |
| trygvis | how do I connect with vnc? | 11:29 |
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| trygvis | oh, that worked | 11:30 |
| melmoth | trygvis, do you see the incoming packet on the bridge ? (i hope one can use -i br100 on the hypervisor's tcpdump) ? | 11:30 |
| [1]alexn6 | ps aux|grep kvm (or your instance name) - in that string there is vnc flag with port. If only one - then this_machine_IP:5900 | 11:30 |
| melmoth | hey, if you can get in vnc, you may even look at a tcpdmp from the vm too | 11:32 |
| trygvis | oh, wait. the host has an IP from the dns on the lan | 11:32 |
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| trygvis | sweet, setting the correct IP fixed it | 11:34 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032152 in horizon ""Select all" flag selects all lines, including hidden by filter lines." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032152 | 12:01 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032155 in python-glanceclient "setup.py shouldn't have requires" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032155 | 12:20 |
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| trygvis | hm, I'm unable to delete an instance that is in the error state | 12:41 |
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| kviiri | trygvis: nova delete simply does nothing? | 12:42 |
| trygvis | seemingly, yes | 12:42 |
| kviiri | I've scrubbed some of these "ghost instances" from the DB manually (and with a script) | 12:42 |
| kyriakos | tail nova-compute.log on the system that the instance runs on while issuing the delete command | 12:42 |
| kviiri | Before resorting to DB tinkering, it's of course best to be sure | 12:43 |
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| trygvis | http://paste.openstack.org/show/19919/ | 12:44 |
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| trygvis | it has been a while since I stopped the instance, I can't remember if I had an issue before dropping the network or not | 12:45 |
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| kyriakos | check the nova-network log as well, you'll probably see a matching error on that side | 12:46 |
| trygvis | yep: NetworkNotFound: Network 1 could not be found. | 12:47 |
| trygvis | it seems that deleting networks is a bad idea :) | 12:48 |
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| kviiri | At what point does OpenStack decide what virtual interfaces/networks it creates for the VMs? | 12:53 |
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| trygvis | is it possible to tell which mac address an image should use up front? | 12:57 |
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| trygvis | I'd like to use the flat manager and have the existing dhcp server give out ip addresses | 12:57 |
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| trygvis | actually I'd need to know the fixed ip and the mac address | 12:58 |
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| trygvis | alternatively, run flat+dhcp but in a way that doesn't mess up the existing dhcp server | 13:00 |
| trygvis | the compute node has two physical interfaces if that makes it easier | 13:01 |
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| kyriakos | are you using xen or mvm ? | 13:03 |
| kyriakos | kvm | 13:03 |
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| trygvis | kvm | 13:03 |
| trygvis | can the image detect its own ip, like without dhcp? | 13:04 |
| trygvis | I'm not sure how these cloud tools that you install in the images work | 13:04 |
| trygvis | I guess I could make a startup script that looks at some kvm meta data | 13:04 |
| kyriakos | seen this? http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/AESDG-chapter-instancedata.html | 13:05 |
| Apolonio | kyriakos, I don't remember seeing this. | 13:05 |
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| kyriakos | nova implements this api | 13:06 |
| trygvis | yeah, I've seen that the cirros image accesses that | 13:06 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032174 in swift "swift3 returns 500 on bucket?versioning request" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032174 | 13:06 |
| kyriakos | so you could use a link local ip to access that API, figure out your IP and set it in your system | 13:06 |
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| trygvis | right | 13:07 |
| Sweetshark | can somebody tell me thelicense on thegerrit ircbot? | 13:08 |
| Sweetshark | (nothing in the source itself on github) | 13:08 |
| kviiri | Apache licence | 13:09 |
| kviiri | No wait, that was the other Gerrit | 13:10 |
| kviiri | Not sure about the irc bot, haven't heard of it | 13:10 |
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| eb_ | For error I launched a m1.medium image, so in /var/lib/nova/instances/_base was created a big file tha I delete but not all the space is available us before the operation. There are other files to delete? | 13:15 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032177 in nova "nova-manage floating list command failed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032177 | 13:16 |
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| trygvis | kyriakos: is the web server available as long as the instance is running? | 13:20 |
| kyriakos | it runs on the same system as nova-compute | 13:21 |
| kyriakos | oh sorry I misread the question. The service is available any time you need it | 13:21 |
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| trygvis | I misread the output from wget, it says no route to host | 13:22 |
| trygvis | hmm | 13:24 |
| kviiri | Sorry if I've already bored you by asking this over and over again but I still have some hope someone here knows about this | 13:25 |
| kviiri | I get ERROR: NetworkNotFound: Network 8c842e6b-808c-4792-87bb-739c5035a046 could not be found. (HTTP 400) | 13:26 |
| kviiri | Even though the network exists | 13:26 |
| kviiri | I'm trying to use commands similar to the ones described here: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/specifying-vm-network-connectivity-on-boot.html | 13:27 |
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| kviiri | (I changed the network uuid to one that actually exists) | 13:28 |
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| trygvis | hm, I can't access the config server | 13:39 |
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| trygvis | I wonder why I'm getting no route to host. I've set the ip to 169.254.169.253 and the server is supposed to run on 169.254.169.254 | 13:39 |
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| coolj | trygvis: what do you get from iptables-save | fgrep 169.254.169.254 on the host? | 13:42 |
| trygvis | -A nova-network-PREROUTING -d 169.254.169.254/32 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.90.41:8775 | 13:43 |
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| trygvis | I see some old IPs in iptables-save, I'll try to reboot the box and see if that'll shake it loose | 13:44 |
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| eb_ | In Compute I ha this problem:sometimes I have error because : Reconnecting to AMQP server on localhost:5672 AMQP server on localhost:5672 is unreachable: [Errno 111] ECONNREFUSED, but sometimes is work. The problem is that AMQP it isn't localhost but a different ip. | 13:55 |
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| trygvis | eb_: sounds like you need to look at your nova.conf | 13:59 |
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| melmoth | eb_, wrong --rabbit_host ? | 13:59 |
| trygvis | and the --rabbit_host key, at least if you're using rabbit | 13:59 |
| eb_ | in nova.conf --rabbit_host=192.168.1.2 | 14:00 |
| eb_ | what is rabbit_host key? | 14:01 |
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| trygvis | coolj: hm, now I'm not getting any output from that grep | 14:05 |
| kyriakos | are nova-network/nova-compute up and running ? | 14:05 |
| trygvis | yep | 14:06 |
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| eb_ | when I restart nova-compute it works: Connected to AMQP server on 192.168.1.2:5672 | 14:09 |
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| coolj | trygvis: does netstat -ntlp show anything listening on 8775 (or 8773)? | 14:14 |
| Disconnect | where is the database set for nova-manage? I intermittantly get "unable to open database None None" and its coming up on time to teach my team how to use this thing | 14:14 |
| Disconnect | it says check the logs, but of course there isn't much there | 14:15 |
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| trygvis | yes, both | 14:15 |
| davidP | when I try to create a network | 14:16 |
| kyriakos | Disconnect, in /etc/nova/nova.conf which is owned by root and readable only by root | 14:16 |
| davidP | here is the error message that I get | 14:16 |
| davidP | TypeError: create() got multiple values for keyword argument 'num_networks' | 14:16 |
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| kyriakos | Disconnect, are you running nova-manage as root? | 14:16 |
| Disconnect | ok. is it necessary to be readable for users (with proper OS_* env) to read? | 14:16 |
| Disconnect | no. i'll set up a group. | 14:16 |
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| kyriakos | Disconnect, it's full of sensitive details like passwords etc so I'd be careful who can access it | 14:17 |
| davidP | nova is fustrating :P GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR | 14:17 |
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| Disconnect | yah admins only. but we're the only ones who can log in at all so.. | 14:18 |
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| Disconnect | lol. it kicks over to "please run as root" | 14:18 |
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| coolj | trygvis: hmm...if there's a /var/lock/nova/nova-iptables.lock, delete that and restart nova-network and see if the dnat gets added to iptables | 14:19 |
| trygvis | it's not present | 14:20 |
| Disconnect | hmm. nova floating-ip-create is out of sync with the dashboard. (shows the one I just added, but not that I assigned it to an instance. doesn't show the one from yesterday, even tho dash shows it assigned and its working) | 14:20 |
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| Disconnect | dnsmasq is handled by nova-network right? its not updating (or working) and its still running after stopping network. I suspect its wedged. | 14:21 |
| coolj | trygvis: heh, maybe restart nova-network anyway? /F5 til you get in | 14:22 |
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| Disconnect | yah killing them and starting nova-network restarted them. they still don't work or anything, but they're running. time to poke the confi. | 14:22 |
| eb_ | Error Spawning on compute: http://paste.openstack.org/show/19922/ | 14:23 |
| eb_ | 'ip_address': mapping['ips'][0]['ip'], nova.compute.manager IndexError: list index out of range | 14:24 |
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| phschwartz | What is the best way to setup OpenStack when you have 1 nic connected with a single /24 to use. | 14:28 |
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| Disconnect | phschwartz: i'm real new but you could probably do vlanning | 14:37 |
| Disconnect | or just create named aliases in /etc/network/interfaces with the different "networks". | 14:37 |
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| coolj | trygvis: any luck? | 14:39 |
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| trygvis | no | 14:40 |
| coolj | trygvis: so the dnat still doesn't show up in iptables-save on the host? | 14:42 |
| trygvis | nope | 14:42 |
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| coolj | hmm | 14:42 |
| trygvis | would even nova-network try to look at what is running and set up iptables again? | 14:42 |
| coolj | yeah, it should. any errors in nova-network.log? | 14:43 |
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| phschwartz | Disconnect: I think with the one nic I need to run Flat. | 14:45 |
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| Disconnect | if it is just one node just set the outside to eth0 and create a blind bridge (no members) for the backend | 14:49 |
| Disconnect | er.. if i reboot a compute node, is it expected that all the instances disappear into the ether? | 14:51 |
| Disconnect | oh nevermind. stupid demo project. whew. | 14:51 |
| coolj | trygvis: does ip a | fgrep 169.254.169.254 return anything? | 14:53 |
| Disconnect | ok they did disappear. dash shows them running. hmm. | 14:53 |
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| trygvis | coolj: nope | 14:54 |
| coolj | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/network/linux_net. | 14:54 |
| coolj | oops | 14:54 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032222 in devstack "Python-keystone client version mismatch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032222 | 14:55 |
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| Disconnect | ugh. looks like i've got a nice pile of unusable now :( how do I recover from rebooting a compute node? (well.. an everything node) i've got volumes that are still stuck in deleting (because the iscsi hp stuff didnt' work) and now instances that are stuck in 'terminating' because they weren't running after the reboot.. | 14:56 |
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| coolj | trygvis: it should always bind that to lo and add the dnat: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/essex/nova/network/l3.py#L85 https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/essex/nova/network/linux_net.py#L478 https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/essex/nova/network/linux_net.py#L416 | 14:57 |
| coolj | not sure why it isn't | 14:57 |
| phschwartz | Disconnect: Not doing one node for this. I need to get a POC up and it is 12 nodes. Not going to multi nic till after. | 14:57 |
| Disconnect | what kind of server only comes with one nic? :) not sure what issues you'll run into, but i do know it makes a lot of assumptions about configuration. (eg I just spent 30 mins arguing with multinode because I have 2 bonds going to the same backend network and it kept running 'ip addr' against the non-bridged one ...) | 14:59 |
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| Disconnect | if you set up vlanning on the switches (set it to 'tagged' with a default) you can create the interfaces and isolation it wants without having to go through a lot of hoops | 14:59 |
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| Disconnect | yaaay. restarting nova-compute fixed it. looks like there is a bad dependency somewhere in startup (at least one, since it logs tons of errors trying to connect to mysql before mysql is started..) | 15:01 |
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| davidP | hu | 15:24 |
| davidP | hi | 15:24 |
| davidP | humm anybody would like to help ? please | 15:25 |
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| coolj | davidP: we can try :) | 15:26 |
| davidP | cool | 15:26 |
| davidP | I have a multi-host setup | 15:26 |
| davidP | a controller and a compute node | 15:27 |
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| davidP | the VM on the compute nodes | 15:27 |
| davidP | boot properly | 15:27 |
| davidP | but the VMs on the controller | 15:27 |
| davidP | boot get an IP address | 15:27 |
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| davidP | but hang on | 15:27 |
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| davidP | with the following message | 15:28 |
| davidP | cloud-setup: checking http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-i | 15:28 |
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| coolj | davidP: does it show timeout trying to connect after that? | 15:30 |
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| davidP | coolj yeah | 15:31 |
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| coolj | davidP: check that 169.254.169.254 is assigned to lo interface, and make sure you see a rule pointing to the host ip:8773 (default port is 8773) in iptables-save for 169.254.169.254 | 15:33 |
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| davidP | coolj no the address is not assigned to the loopback interface | 15:34 |
| coolj | is it on any interface? | 15:34 |
| davidP | none | 15:34 |
| UICTamale | Good morning everyone. I'm about to install openstack for the first time on a set of new servers, and I was wondering if there was any way to use redis for messaging instead of rabbitmq | 15:34 |
| davidP | but the port 8773 is definietely open | 15:35 |
| coolj | if there an iptable dnat for the 169? | 15:36 |
| coolj | is | 15:36 |
| davidP | aight | 15:36 |
| davidP | checking it | 15:37 |
| coolj | it should be like -A nova-network-PREROUTING -d 169.254.169.254/32 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination <host ip>:8773 | 15:37 |
| davidP | DNAT tcp -- anywhere 169.254.169.254 tcp dpt:http to:192.168.178.81:8775 | 15:38 |
| davidP | for me dunno why | 15:38 |
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| davidP | coolj alive? | 15:39 |
| coolj | does curl 192.168.178.81:8775 (or 8773) from the host return anything? | 15:40 |
| coolj | (I assume -A nova-network-PREROUTING -d 169.254.169.254/32 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination <host ip>:8773 | 15:40 |
| coolj | err | 15:40 |
| coolj | I assume 192.168.178.81 is the primary ip of the host | 15:40 |
| davidP | yeah | 15:40 |
| davidP | it returns | 15:40 |
| davidP | some numbers | 15:41 |
| davidP | like dates | 15:41 |
| davidP | with 8775 | 15:41 |
| coolj | ok, that sounds right | 15:41 |
| coolj | does iptables-save | fgrep 169.254.169.254 return anything? | 15:41 |
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| davidP | -A nova-network-PREROUTING -d 169.254.169.254/32 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1:8775 | 15:43 |
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| davidP | I just noticed my compute service on the controller is down | 15:43 |
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| davidP | without any error log | 15:43 |
| coolj | you might ned to restart nova-api-os-* also | 15:43 |
| coolj | or os-pi whatever it is! | 15:44 |
| davidP | hehe it is up again | 15:44 |
| davidP | restart what ? | 15:44 |
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| davidP | ah ok sorry | 15:45 |
| davidP | nova-api you mean right? | 15:45 |
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| coolj | for diablo it was nova-api, but they split them out at some point in essex...if you have nova-api, restart that! | 15:47 |
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| davidP | ok | 15:49 |
| davidP | I am n00b to nova and cloud computing | 15:49 |
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| coolj | davidP: no worries, openstack is new ground for a lot of us, I think | 15:50 |
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| fm255005 | im having an issue with nova where the project that is shown in horizon that works, doesn't show up under nova-manage project list | 15:52 |
| fm255005 | it shows that i have no projects | 15:52 |
| davidP | coolj: stuck at the same state | 15:52 |
| davidP | without timing out this time | 15:53 |
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| fm255005 | but when i log in to horizon i see the project there with the id | 15:53 |
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| davidP | fm255005 try nova-manage db sync | 15:55 |
| davidP | and see | 15:55 |
| coolj | fm255005: if you're using keystone, it will be in the keystone.tenant table and nova.projects will be empty...there's a bug with encodings and a foreign key contraint that makes mysql unable to read from nova.projects: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/975085 | 15:55 |
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| fm255005 | yea im using keystone | 15:56 |
| fm255005 | the issue is that im trying to set up zenoss' openstack module | 15:56 |
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| fm255005 | and its asking for the nova url and nova api | 15:56 |
| coolj | davidP: so it's still stuck at cloud-setup but you're not seeing the url timeout messages in the log? | 15:56 |
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| davidP | coolj now the timeout appears | 15:57 |
| fm255005 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNroWEsxCA8 | 15:57 |
| davidP | and the VM relauches the request | 15:57 |
| fm255005 | one comment is this | 15:58 |
| fm255005 | echo $NOVA_URL echo $NOVA_API_KEY The former will show the auth-url, the latter will show the API key | 15:58 |
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| fm255005 | thats not showing up for me | 15:58 |
| fm255005 | i know the nova url | 15:58 |
| fm255005 | but i cant understand what they want for the nova api | 15:58 |
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| coolj | davidP: what does fgrep ec2_listen /etc/nova/nova.conf show? | 15:59 |
| fm255005 | "I'd recommend searching for "nova-manage project zipefile" which will describe how to export user credentials and get the auth-url and API key information above." | 15:59 |
| fm255005 | that doesnt work for me since there are no projects | 16:00 |
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| coolj | fm255005: maybe check out env | grep OS_ | 16:01 |
| coolj | oh, nm, you're trying to get those values... | 16:01 |
| fm255005 | yea i have those credentials | 16:02 |
| fm255005 | put dont know where the api key they are looking for | 16:02 |
| fm255005 | but* | 16:02 |
| davidP | coolj : fgrep ec2_listen /etc/nova/nova.conf shows nothing | 16:02 |
| davidP | :( | 16:02 |
| davidP | coolj :but I have ec2_host set to the ip of the controller | 16:04 |
| coolj | davidP: try adding ec2_listen=192.168.178.81 (you may need to prefix it with -- on diablo) to nova.conf and restarting all the things | 16:04 |
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| coolj | davidP: oh, I think that prolly right...I just wonder why the dnat shows 127.0.0.1 instead of the primary IP...may not matter at all, just throwing stuff out | 16:05 |
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| davidP | coolj same | 16:08 |
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| coolj | davidP: do you see responses from the metadata server in /var/log/nova/nova-api.log? | 16:12 |
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| davidP | coolj: RemoteError: Remote error: InstanceNotFound Instance instance-0000002c could not be found | 16:14 |
| davidP | here is an error I just noticed | 16:14 |
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| davidP | but the last line of the log | 16:15 |
| davidP | is like this | 16:15 |
| davidP | http://192.168.178.81:8774/v1.1/c31a25bfd2d64125b37b2569291160c4/servers/adaeae09-7389-48e3-9775-1268bd36638b/action returned with HTTP 200 | 16:15 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032269 in devstack "rejoin-stack.sh fails setup nova-volume" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032269 | 16:16 |
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| coolj | so the :8774 should ne the nova api and the path looks about right. the InstanceNotFound seems kind of worisome...does virsh list --all on the host show instance-0000002c? | 16:17 |
| coolj | *be | 16:17 |
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| davidP | coolj : yes | 16:18 |
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| phschwartz | For a development environment, is it possible to avoid needing 2 ip's for your vm's (private and public), and have the bridge run in mixed mode where br100's ip on each physical compute node is on the public network. IE, br100 is 10.0.0.2 (public network address) with it bridging over an uniped eth0. | 16:18 |
| coolj | davidP: on the controller node, does nova show 44 return anything? | 16:19 |
| trygvis | that's what I'm trying to set up phschwartz and it mainly work. I'm having some issues with the image getting an ip from my dhcp server | 16:19 |
| trygvis | but that should be fixable once I create a new image | 16:20 |
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| phschwartz | trygvis: good to know it will work. I am also going to run a dhcp server on my controller so all nodes will see that for the ip if set correctly. | 16:20 |
| davidP | coolj: yes http://pastebin.com/XGzEmq5q | 16:20 |
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| phschwartz | trygvis: do you mind sharing your nova.conf? I am curious to see how you configured the flat network in there. | 16:23 |
| coolj | davidP: looks right. I have to sleeps for a few hours now, I'm on a 2nd/3rd swing shift. sorry I couldn't help more! hope you get it worked out | 16:23 |
| davidP | coolj: np man thanks a lot | 16:23 |
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| trygvis | phschwartz: --flat_interface=eth2 --flat_network_bridge=br100 --fixed_range=192.168.90.192/27 --public_interface=eth0 | 16:25 |
| trygvis | public_interface shouldn't matter | 16:25 |
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| trygvis | oh and --network_manager=nova.network.manager.FlatManager | 16:28 |
| phschwartz | I wonder if that will still work with only one active nic. Second on boxes is not cabled. | 16:29 |
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| trygvis | it should AFAIKT | 16:30 |
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| fm255005 | coolj: zenoss' openstack module allows you to view the status of the instances through their ui | 16:34 |
| fm255005 | coolj: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNroWEsxCA8 | 16:34 |
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| trygvis | are there any tutorials on how to build new images that openstack can boot? | 16:40 |
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| trygvis | I'd like to create a clean debian image. I found something here http://git.cloud.com/cgit/cloudstack-oss/tree/patches/systemvm/debian/buildsystemvm.sh | 16:41 |
| clarkb | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/creating-new-images.html has links to a variety of methods | 16:41 |
| davidP | coolj: if you are still, it works now, dunno by which magic but it works | 16:41 |
| trygvis | thanks! | 16:42 |
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| UICTamale | Hey everyone, I'm a bit confused about the differences between following a traditional guide like 'how to install openstack essex on ubuntu 12.04" and "openstack - how to get started with devstack" | 16:53 |
| UICTamale | What are the pros/cons of devstack vs. openstack? | 16:53 |
| melmoth | is it not like ... the same ? but devstack being a scripted one node install targeted mainly at developpers ? | 16:57 |
| melmoth | it checktout fresh stuff from git branched, and install the whole shebang in your current box, so you can play a bit with a some piece of code ,and try it out | 16:57 |
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| UICTamale | melmoth: Gotcha. I'd assume it's slightly more 'resilient' if we're planning on using the cloud after it's setup for our local dev environment - dev stack is more for people wanting to work ON open stack | 17:01 |
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| Aaton | Q: running glance-manage db_sync twice shouldn't give an error right? | 17:22 |
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| trygvis | there's only one way to find out :) | 17:24 |
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| JoeJulian | Does a partitioned image have to have the root filesystem as the first partition? I have http://fpaste.org/PBG1/ in my syslog leading me to believe that's the case. This is happening with the fedora image listed on http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/starting-images.html which has the root partion second. | 17:32 |
| Aaton | so when where do snapshots actually get stored? is it directly in glance or do I need to have another backend like switf? | 17:33 |
| renuka | Hello, was wondering if anyone from the core reviewers could take a look at this change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9879/ It's been sitting there for a while. Thanks! | 17:34 |
| guimaluf | how to force volume remotion? | 17:34 |
| kbringard | Aaton: they get stored in glance, on whatever backing method you have setup for glance to use | 17:37 |
| kbringard | so if it's local disk, it'll use local disk | 17:37 |
| kbringard | if it's swift, swift, etc | 17:37 |
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| Aaton | ah, so in the config "default_store = file" will just store on local disk. | 17:39 |
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| guimaluf | how can I force a volume deletion? | 17:47 |
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| renuka | vishy: Thanks :) | 17:49 |
| kmwhite | guimaluf, Do the logs provide a reason that it cannot be deleted? | 17:49 |
| kmwhite | guimaluf, and why forcing is required? | 17:49 |
| guimaluf | kmwhite, look like a circular dependecy between vm and volume | 17:51 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032310 in nova "Tests leave temporary volume files lying around" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032310 | 17:51 |
| guimaluf | kmwhite, there's no vm disk but the volume still attached | 17:51 |
| guimaluf | root@cerebro:/var/lib/nova/instances# nova-manage volume delete 9 | 17:54 |
| guimaluf | 2012-08-02 14:52:42 DEBUG nova.utils [req-120c110f-4669-4f80-bf3f-eb002a42ba71 None None] backend <module 'nova.db.sqlalchemy.api' from '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.pyc'> from (pid=7647) __get_backend /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/utils.py:658 | 17:54 |
| guimaluf | Volume is in-use. | 17:54 |
| guimaluf | Detach volume from instance and then try again. | 17:54 |
| guimaluf | root@cerebro:/var/lib/nova/instances# | 17:54 |
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| guimaluf | kmwhite, and I cant remove the vm cause it can find the iscsi session to remove the disk | 17:56 |
| guimaluf | kmwhite, :/ | 17:56 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032314 in glance "qpid_heartbeat setting in ineffective" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032314 | 18:06 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032315 in horizon "Large files cause Horizon to timeout when uploading to the Swift UI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032315 | 18:06 |
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| zynzel | why nova-compute dont verify image checksum after ownload from glance? | 18:12 |
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| vachon | zynzel: aws doesnt, why would someone bother? | 18:14 |
| vachon | if you are doing it over a realiable network, TCP should recover any corruption | 18:15 |
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| zynzel | vachon: because we have cache in _base/ so if we download corrupted image | 18:15 |
| zynzel | any instance spawned on that node will fail | 18:15 |
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| zynzel | and we have checksum in db, so why we dont use it? | 18:15 |
| vachon | sure, it makes sense, but if i remember computing that checksum took a while on most images | 18:16 |
| vachon | maybe thats why? | 18:16 |
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| zynzel | vachon: 30s? 40? 60? | 18:16 |
| zynzel | this is short in comparsion to broken XX instances | 18:17 |
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| vachon | um, i think around 60sec, but since sha can be multi-threaded, it will steal cpu from hosts | 18:17 |
| kmwhite | guimaluf, If your back end is the LVM storage, you can delete the physical volume, but I'm not sure about how that would affect the rest of the system. | 18:17 |
| zynzel | vachon: checksum in db is md5 | 18:17 |
| swinchen | Ok, so none of my nova services start and there is nothing in the log files. Is there a way to get any information on why they might be failing? | 18:17 |
| zynzel | so we should check md5 | 18:17 |
| vachon | ah well then, single thread | 18:17 |
| vachon | not as bad | 18:17 |
| vachon | swinchen: --verbose=true | 18:18 |
| vachon | in your nova.conf | 18:18 |
| swinchen | vachon: ahh thanks. | 18:18 |
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| swinchen | vachon: still nothing :/ | 18:20 |
| Ryan_Lane | ERROR: Cannot 'reboot' while instance is in task_state rebooting (HTTP 409) | 18:20 |
| * Ryan_Lane sighs | 18:20 | |
| Ryan_Lane | why would that ever make sense to enforce? | 18:20 |
| vachon | Ryan_Lane: can you force reboot when in reboot? | 18:20 |
| vachon | *cant | 18:20 |
| crazed | ev0ldave: hey, do you have issues where nova-dns will add an instance to dns more than once? not sure why this happens to me, but seems the pending hash gets re-populated with a uuid that's already been taken care of | 18:20 |
| Ryan_Lane | ah. let me try force | 18:20 |
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| Ryan_Lane | vachon: nope | 18:21 |
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| kmwhite | If I assign a floating IP to a vm, I should see it in the VM when I do an ifconfig, correct? | 18:21 |
| Ryan_Lane | and guess what? nova errored out while doing it | 18:21 |
| Ryan_Lane | so, now the instance is stuck in the rebooting state | 18:21 |
| guimaluf | kmwhite, the problem happen with the iscsi session, it doens't exist anymore | 18:21 |
| Ryan_Lane | hooray | 18:21 |
| vachon | still one better than me | 18:23 |
| vachon | "can't connect to san" | 18:23 |
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| * vachon ssh's to the SAN from pycli | 18:23 | |
| vachon | from the box | 18:23 |
| vishy | kmwhite: now, it is a natted ip from the network host | 18:25 |
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| Ryan_Lane | so, is there any way to fix this rebooting issue? | 18:25 |
| swinchen | Well darn it. :( | 18:25 |
| Ryan_Lane | I tried changing the database to put the instance in the active state | 18:25 |
| Ryan_Lane | ERROR: Cannot 'reboot' while instance is in task_state active (HTTP 409) | 18:25 |
| Ryan_Lane | heh | 18:25 |
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| vishy | Ryan_Lane: there are a few states that need to be reset | 18:25 |
| * Ryan_Lane stabs | 18:26 | |
| vachon | yea, im guessing you are locked in rabbit, not the db | 18:26 |
| vishy | Ryan_Lane: task_state should be set to None | 18:26 |
| crazed | ev0ldave: also, does your LOGing work? seems mine doesn't, so i've just been throwing in print statements | 18:26 |
| vishy | vm_state should be active | 18:26 |
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| vishy | Ryan_Lane: are you on trunk? | 18:26 |
| Ryan_Lane | essex | 18:26 |
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| vishy | Ryan_Lane: well you can't use the new fancy nova command to fix it then | 18:26 |
| vishy | Ryan_Lane: happy db hacking | 18:26 |
| Ryan_Lane | :D | 18:27 |
| vishy | :) | 18:27 |
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| Ryan_Lane | hm | 18:27 |
| Ryan_Lane | vm_state is active | 18:27 |
| Ryan_Lane | task_state is None | 18:27 |
| Ryan_Lane | ERROR: Cannot 'reboot' while instance is in task_state None (HTTP 409) | 18:27 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: update instances set vm_state='active',task_state=NULL where uuid=''; | 18:28 |
| zynzel | and reboot after that. | 18:28 |
| Ryan_Lane | why is this an enforced thing? | 18:28 |
| Ryan_Lane | why don't we always allow reboot? | 18:28 |
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| Ryan_Lane | zynzel: that worked. thanks | 18:29 |
| swinchen | Ok, verbose=True didn't work. Is there any other method to see why my services are not starting? | 18:29 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: and what happen if you reboot instance which is in deleting state? | 18:29 |
| zynzel | or snapshoting? | 18:29 |
| zynzel | or rescue? ;) | 18:29 |
| Ryan_Lane | true. | 18:29 |
| zynzel | (rescue works, but it should not) | 18:29 |
| Ryan_Lane | maybe we should have a —force option, then? | 18:30 |
| Ryan_Lane | for situations like this | 18:30 |
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| vachon | i know horizon gives you a force reboot | 18:30 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: if yours instance dont reboot properly | 18:30 |
| zynzel | you have problem with openstack infrastructure not vm | 18:30 |
| Ryan_Lane | there's a hard reboot option, but it isn't the same | 18:30 |
| vachon | not sure how different it is, but thats is why I suggested it | 18:30 |
| zynzel | so what changes if you use --force? ;) | 18:30 |
| Ryan_Lane | zynzel: yes. that was indeed the issue | 18:30 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: in that case, cloud operator should fix problem | 18:31 |
| zynzel | so --force flag for user dont change anything | 18:31 |
| * Ryan_Lane is the cloud operator and did fix it | 18:31 | |
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| Ryan_Lane | this is in testing, thankfully | 18:31 |
| zynzel | or simply can mess with db | 18:31 |
| Ryan_Lane | I just want to avoid database hacking in production if this happens | 18:31 |
| Ryan_Lane | it's really operator unfriendly | 18:31 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: if you plan to use openstack, try to get used to db hacking ;) | 18:32 |
| zynzel | db hacking, python hacking, everything hacking ;) | 18:32 |
| Ryan_Lane | that's not a reasonable option | 18:32 |
| vachon | Ryan_Lane++ | 18:32 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: openstack is very young project, so not everything works out of the box | 18:32 |
| Ryan_Lane | if something requires database hacking, it's broken | 18:33 |
| zynzel | if you want new future, simply write patch | 18:33 |
| zynzel | and commit it to official repo. | 18:33 |
| Ryan_Lane | zynzel: I've been pushing to openstack since bexar ;) | 18:33 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: great! | 18:33 |
| Ryan_Lane | I know all of this. I'm just saying it's not really acceptable | 18:33 |
| vachon | when essex was minted as "production suited" Ryan_Lane is perfectly correct | 18:34 |
| Ryan_Lane | young or not, instances shouldn't get into an unrecoverable state that requires hacking the database | 18:34 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: ok, on other side. | 18:34 |
| vachon | diablo and below i would be with zynzel | 18:34 |
| zynzel | what happen when vm stuck? | 18:34 |
| zynzel | what do you do? | 18:34 |
| zynzel | and really you do this things on production? | 18:34 |
| zynzel | REALY?! ;) | 18:34 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm not sure what you mean | 18:35 |
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| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: why yours instance stuck in reboot? | 18:35 |
| Ryan_Lane | because of a temporary misconfiguration | 18:35 |
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| Ryan_Lane | which can happen in production just like testing | 18:36 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: so what do you thing, 'temporary misconfiguration' is possible on production? | 18:36 |
| zynzel | nope. | 18:36 |
| vishy | Ryan_Lane: yes we have a fix in trunk which gives an (admin) api command to reset state | 18:36 |
| zynzel | on production things like that, dont happen :) | 18:36 |
| Ryan_Lane | vishy: ah. great. | 18:36 |
| vishy | nova reset-state uuid | 18:36 |
| vishy | or nova reset-state --active uuid | 18:36 |
| Ryan_Lane | zynzel: which fantasy world are you in? shit goes wrong in production all the time :) | 18:37 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: i only says, that openstack is ok | 18:37 |
| vishy | Ryan_Lane: and it happens much less often in folsom :) | 18:37 |
| zynzel | but if you 'broke' some elemnts | 18:37 |
| Ryan_Lane | vishy: sweet | 18:37 |
| zynzel | yours vm stuck in strange state | 18:37 |
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| * vishy has never seen anything go wrong in production. Ever. | 18:37 | |
| Ryan_Lane | hahaha | 18:37 |
| * dspano lives on fantasy island. | 18:37 | |
| vachon | vishy: you should take your act on the road | 18:37 |
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| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: there are a few types of fail. | 18:38 |
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| sdague | vishy: is that because you wear very dark glasses? :) | 18:38 |
| zynzel | fail in code - ok, in production? great we cant test every line | 18:38 |
| ev0ldave | crazed: i dont, i have a ptr zone and A record created | 18:38 |
| zynzel | fail in hardware - ok, we cant prevent it | 18:38 |
| zynzel | but fail in configuration? | 18:38 |
| zynzel | you can simply test it in testbed | 18:38 |
| Ryan_Lane | zynzel: operator error should be assumed | 18:38 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: change operator ;) | 18:38 |
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| ev0ldave | crazed: http://paste.openstack.org/show/19931/ | 18:39 |
| Ryan_Lane | zynzel: my only point is that if something fails, there should be a way to fix it that doesn't involve database hacking | 18:39 |
| zynzel | if you dont know what 'that option' do, simply | 18:39 |
| zynzel | DONT CHANGE IT :) | 18:39 |
| vachon | config mgmt helps prevent some of that | 18:39 |
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| vachon | but it will never stop it | 18:39 |
| Ryan_Lane | zynzel: it was a failure in configuration management and a reboot of the hardware | 18:39 |
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| Ryan_Lane | that happens. often | 18:39 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: but db hacking is simple as hell, and writing 'script to repair all fails' is imposible ;) | 18:39 |
| zynzel | in my opinion | 18:40 |
| Ryan_Lane | zynzel: database hacking is easy for the developers. if we want normal people to use the software, we can't assume they'll be developers. | 18:40 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: normal people dont use openstack software. | 18:40 |
| zynzel | you have sysadmin, netadmins, developers | 18:40 |
| zynzel | not normal people :) | 18:40 |
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| Ryan_Lane | not all sysadmins and netadmins are developers | 18:41 |
| ev0ldave | we are normal people too :*( | 18:41 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: yeah, but sysadmin which have problem with update db | 18:41 |
| zynzel | is not a sysadmin... | 18:41 |
| vachon | normal people use Azure Cloud! | 18:41 |
| ev0ldave | haha | 18:41 |
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| zynzel | vachon: yeah! | 18:41 |
| jeremyb | does your island have drinks w/ umbrellas? | 18:41 |
| ehdez | what's going on stackers? | 18:42 |
| vachon | getting our arses kicked like normal | 18:42 |
| Ryan_Lane | zynzel: well, I didn't have a problem with updating the database. I successfully changed the state of task_state, but I didn't know that two different columns needed to be updated. | 18:42 |
| crazed | ev0ldave: yeah the A record gets created, but for some reason instances get added back to pending, i dunno i just hacked in a check before adding the record | 18:42 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm not familiar with that code path. one of you guys needed to tell me how to do it. all that and I *am* a developer, with fairly decent knowledge of the code base ;) | 18:43 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: this wasnt personal | 18:43 |
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| zynzel | only my opinion, openstack devs should concentrate on bug fixing, implementing new futures | 18:43 |
| Ryan_Lane | zynzel: I know, I'm making a point. if a developer needs to ask for help, a non developer likely has no chance on their own | 18:43 |
| Ryan_Lane | and this channel isn't always this responsive | 18:43 |
| zynzel | and not writing 'idiot proof' software | 18:43 |
| zynzel | (and this is also not personal) | 18:43 |
| Ryan_Lane | it's not a point of idiot proofing something. | 18:44 |
| Ryan_Lane | software should fail gracefully | 18:44 |
| vachon | zynzel: idiot proofing and catching problems are two different items | 18:44 |
| Ryan_Lane | if you need to hack internals to fix something, then it's a problem | 18:44 |
| vachon | s/catch/handling (problems|execptions)/ | 18:44 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: vachon but openstack handle problem :) | 18:45 |
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| zynzel | its says you you cant reboot instance which is rebooting | 18:45 |
| Ryan_Lane | in this case an instance reboot ended up with a stacktrace in nova-compute, which kept the instance in a reboot state | 18:45 |
| vachon | exactly, thats not a catch | 18:45 |
| vachon | thats a fail | 18:45 |
| Ryan_Lane | I disagree. openstack didn't have a mechanism to handle the problem | 18:45 |
| zynzel | if you know what you are doing you can update db, or delete instance, or do what you want | 18:45 |
| Ryan_Lane | you shouldn't *need* to know how to fix the database | 18:45 |
| vachon | a db update is NOT an answer | 18:45 |
| vachon | its a hammer | 18:46 |
| crazed | the lamen would just leave the instance there and not know what to do | 18:46 |
| vachon | my junior guys would as well | 18:46 |
| vachon | they arent lamen | 18:46 |
| zynzel | we have different opinion on that as i see ;) | 18:46 |
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| vachon | zynzel: if openstack is to ever take on aws or vmware | 18:47 |
| vachon | you cant be going into the db to alter columns | 18:47 |
| vachon | there is a reason esx service console is now dead | 18:47 |
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| openstacker | hello all | 18:47 |
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| openstacker | sorry if this is a basic question, but I was wondering what the best way to set the instance quota is | 18:48 |
| vachon | you dont need a hammer to handle a problem each time | 18:48 |
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| Ryan_Lane | vachon: indeed. | 18:48 |
| Ryan_Lane | basic failures should be recoverable | 18:48 |
| zynzel | openstacker: nova-manage project quota on essex | 18:48 |
| openstacker | zynzel: I have tried that | 18:48 |
| ev0ldave | openstacker: in nova.conf | 18:48 |
| zynzel | openstacker: and? | 18:48 |
| openstacker | zynzel: does not seem to be honored | 18:49 |
| openstacker | zynzel: using puppet to spin up the nodes | 18:49 |
| openstacker | zynzel: that uses the ec2 creds | 18:49 |
| zynzel | openstacker: paste output from nova-manage | 18:49 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: baisc yes, but dont know what you change in configuration so compute node crash | 18:49 |
| zynzel | maybe you changeg hypervisor, and this is not 'basic failure' | 18:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | zynzel: eh? compute node didn't crash. this is in testing. I rebooted the hardware, and the configuration management hadn't set the mount point in the fstab | 18:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | I did a reboot, it didn't find the instance's disk | 18:51 |
| openstacker | zynzel: https://gist.github.com/cf68caa380b409df9c66 | 18:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | I mounted the storage, then tried to reboot | 18:51 |
| ev0ldave | iscsi mount ryan_lane? | 18:51 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: 'crash' as a nova-compute trace in logs. | 18:51 |
| zynzel | openstacker: try to use project_id not project_name | 18:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | zynzel: in diablo nova-compute stacktraces were often | 18:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | ev0ldave: nah, just a normal disk mount | 18:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | config management was screwed up | 18:52 |
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| Ryan_Lane | either way, it's something that could be missed, then you go to reboot all instances after hardware comes up, and now all your instances are stuck in the rebooting state | 18:52 |
| Ryan_Lane | win | 18:52 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: i think compute 'crash' because, instance was not running | 18:52 |
| zynzel | im right? | 18:53 |
| zynzel | (and try to reboot instance which is not running) | 18:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | zynzel: no. instance disk couldn't be found | 18:53 |
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| Ryan_Lane | because it wasn't there. because the /var/lib/nova/instances mount point wasn't there | 18:53 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: ok, so what should happen in your opinion? | 18:53 |
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| Ryan_Lane | the reboot failure is fine | 18:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | a way to force the reboot is ideal. this is fixed in trunk, thankfully | 18:54 |
| ev0ldave | haha, so what's the problem? | 18:54 |
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| jeremyb | 1) make sure nothing's still in the middle of reboot 2) fix the mount 3) do reboots again | 18:54 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: but this is bad :) imho instance should change state to error | 18:54 |
| ev0ldave | it's fixed ;) | 18:54 |
| jeremyb | all without touching the DB | 18:54 |
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| zynzel | (we dont have instance disk) | 18:54 |
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| Ryan_Lane | jeremy: exactly | 18:55 |
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| Ryan_Lane | ev0ldave: it's a current issue in essex. | 18:55 |
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| openstacker | zynzel: sweet duh, that did it | 18:56 |
| zynzel | ok, you have right, but we should patch basic problem | 18:56 |
| zynzel | and 'cosmetic changes' for operators should be commited at the end of release. | 18:56 |
| openstacker | zynzel: is there any syntax that modifies the default quota? | 18:56 |
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| Ryan_Lane | I don't think it's a cosmetic thing. | 18:56 |
| jeremyb | zynzel: why the end? | 18:56 |
| jeremyb | and it's not cosmetic | 18:57 |
| zynzel | openstacker: probably ony in configuration file | 18:57 |
| zynzel | jeremyb: there are many 'critical' problem | 18:57 |
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| zynzel | and problem with instance in wrong state, isnt critical | 18:57 |
| Ryan_Lane | instance in a wrong state that's unrecoverable is critical | 18:58 |
| jeremyb | zynzel: and if someone submits a patch you're going to delay taking because more critical stuff is still waiting? | 18:58 |
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| zynzel | jeremyb: no, if someone write that patch. great to him and push it to oficial branch | 18:58 |
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| zynzel | but if we have critical problem, and any developer dont work on it | 18:59 |
| jeremyb | zynzel: so what does end of release mean then? | 18:59 |
| zynzel | openstack have problem. | 18:59 |
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| zynzel | jeremyb: priorities, sometimes i have impression that patched are simple bugs | 19:01 |
| zynzel | cosmetic changes | 19:01 |
| jeremyb | so? | 19:01 |
| zynzel | and critical problems waits. | 19:01 |
| jeremyb | that's fine | 19:01 |
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| jeremyb | not every contributor is going to be able to tackle every critical issue | 19:01 |
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| jeremyb | we shouldn't turn away contributions (or people looking for stuff to do) just because they can't handle the most complicated stuff | 19:02 |
| zynzel | i dont want to move back anybody | 19:02 |
| jeremyb | i don't know what that sentence means | 19:02 |
| zynzel | great that they want to 'work for free' | 19:03 |
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| jeremyb | i didn't say anything about work for free | 19:03 |
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| zynzel | jeremyb: sorry for my english. | 19:03 |
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| zynzel | jeremyb: this is only quoation, i thing working for community is very valuable | 19:04 |
| jeremyb | someone's interested and they show up and want to help the project. what can you give them to do? | 19:04 |
| jeremyb | they could be paid or not, doesn't matter | 19:04 |
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| jeremyb | anyway, in this case it's a bug and it's not cosmetic and not an enhancement. it's (to quote ryan) "unacceptable" as is | 19:05 |
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| zynzel | ok, 1 example | 19:06 |
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| jeremyb | it can go on a list and be prioritized relative to other things. but it shouldn't be done at the very end. then you can't get beta testers on it | 19:06 |
| zynzel | give me a sec for search launchpad | 19:06 |
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| Ryan_Lane | hm. in the ec2 api, when describing instances, it would return the region and zone an instance was in | 19:07 |
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| Ryan_Lane | is there any way to get that info via the nova api? | 19:07 |
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| Ryan_Lane | I guess region is handled by the endpoints | 19:08 |
| Ryan_Lane | zone, though, isn't | 19:08 |
| Ryan_Lane | also, how do I get a list of zones? | 19:08 |
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| zynzel | jeremyb: problem with finding this bug. | 19:12 |
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| zynzel | but if you can talk to me tomorrow i can paste you a link | 19:12 |
| jeremyb | zynzel: just say my name... | 19:13 |
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| zynzel | jeremyb: great | 19:13 |
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| swinchen | could any of the settings in the database prevent nova-* from starting? It seems like it must be entirely configuration file related. If I could just get some sort of debugging information I could probably fix it. | 19:15 |
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| zynzel | swinchen: from starting no | 19:16 |
| zynzel | but you can disable service | 19:16 |
| phschwartz | I am following the centos 6.2 install guide for glance and I am running into an issue. | 19:16 |
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| phschwartz | glance-registry fails to start and doesn't log. How can I figure out what is going wrong. | 19:17 |
| Ryan_Lane | hm. this implies that the nova command should have access to zone info: http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/starter/content/Nova_Commands-d1e2589.html | 19:18 |
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| Ryan_Lane | my essex version of the nova command doesn't have that | 19:18 |
| swinchen | zynzel: I am trying to start the service, but I don't get anything in the log files and the service does not start. I have verbose=True in my nova.conf | 19:18 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: zone are deleted from essex | 19:18 |
| zynzel | in next release you have 'ceils' | 19:18 |
| Ryan_Lane | avalability zones are deleted? | 19:18 |
| Ryan_Lane | ah. this was the poorly named "zones" feature | 19:19 |
| zynzel | swinchen: try to start service 'by hand' | 19:19 |
| Ryan_Lane | availability zones still exist, though, correct? | 19:19 |
| zynzel | Ryan_Lane: in essex, you should patch openstack to avilability zones works | 19:19 |
| zynzel | for instance there work | 19:19 |
| zynzel | but not for volumes | 19:19 |
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| swinchen | zynzel: like "service nova-api start"? That is what I am doing. | 19:20 |
| Ryan_Lane | the api has no way of listing them, either | 19:20 |
| zynzel | swinchen: no | 19:20 |
| zynzel | swinchen: cat /etc/init/nova-compute.conf | 19:20 |
| zynzel | last line is smth like su -c 'nova-compute --flagfile /etc/nova/nova.conf' nova | 19:20 |
| Ryan_Lane | maybe I should just go with regions, rather than availability zones | 19:20 |
| zynzel | and try to execute 'su' command | 19:20 |
| Ryan_Lane | that's like killing a fly with a sledgehammer, though :( | 19:21 |
| jeremyb | Ryan_Lane: pmtpa, eqiad and? | 19:21 |
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| swinchen | zynzel: 2012-08-02 15:21:10 CRITICAL nova [-] Unknown connection type "None" | 19:21 |
| swinchen | ? | 19:21 |
| zynzel | swinchen: paste full log | 19:21 |
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| jeremyb | Ryan_Lane: maybe a zone with prod vlan and a zone with labs? | 19:21 |
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| Ryan_Lane | jeremy: well, I was thinking of making more zones in each datacenter | 19:21 |
| jeremyb | Ryan_Lane: just for redundancy? | 19:22 |
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| Ryan_Lane | private data access | 19:22 |
| swinchen | zynzel: that is the complete log. nova-compute.log is empty | 19:22 |
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| jeremyb | ok, so essentially the same as prod vlan / labs vlan idea | 19:22 |
| jeremyb | but maybe not actual prod network | 19:22 |
| Ryan_Lane | right | 19:23 |
| jeremyb | separate privacy policy? | 19:23 |
| Ryan_Lane | required nda | 19:23 |
| zynzel | swinchen: you have installed nova-compute-kvm | 19:23 |
| Ryan_Lane | I also wanted to split databases in containers away into another zone | 19:23 |
| zynzel | or other hypervisor package? | 19:23 |
| Ryan_Lane | I can do that with the scheduler and scheduler hints now, though, right? | 19:23 |
| swinchen | zynzel: I did a nova-computer --verbose --flagfile /etc/nova/nova.conf and got this: http://pastesite.com/40887 | 19:24 |
| jeremyb | Ryan_Lane: how does that work? i thought databases would just be not part of openstack at all | 19:24 |
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| swinchen | zynzel: yes | 19:24 |
| Ryan_Lane | jeremy: lets discuss that stuff in the labs channel :) | 19:24 |
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| zynzel | swinchen: which? | 19:24 |
| jeremyb | Ryan_Lane: it was relevant for a while | 19:25 |
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| zynzel | cat /etc/nova/nova-compute.conf | 19:25 |
| swinchen | zynzel: nova-compute-kvm (sorry, didn't see your other message) | 19:25 |
| swinchen | zynzel: --libvirt_type=kvm | 19:25 |
| zynzel | swinchen: try to set connection_type=libvirt | 19:26 |
| phschwartz | The centos 6 install guide shows the following pipeline for glance-registry: pipeline = authtoken auth-context context registryapp But this causes glance-registery to fail to start. With out it glance works if you pass user creds, but it will not accept a token. | 19:26 |
| phschwartz | Any ideas? | 19:26 |
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| swinchen | zynzel: that is what it is set to | 19:27 |
| zynzel | phschwartz: check if you have installed python-keystone | 19:27 |
| zynzel | swinchen: check --flagfile /etc/nova/nova.conf /etc/nova/nova-compute.conf | 19:28 |
| phschwartz | zynzel: yes, installed and latest | 19:28 |
| zynzel | or maybe --flagfile /etc/nova/nova.conf --flagfile /etc/nova/nova-compute.conf | 19:28 |
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| zynzel | phschwartz: dont have access to our infrastructure from home | 19:29 |
| phschwartz | This is the doc I have been following http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/configure-glance-files.html | 19:29 |
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| zynzel | if you can wait, please msg me tomorrow and i will paste you working pipeline | 19:29 |
| phschwartz | zynzel: I can do that if no one else knows. | 19:30 |
| swinchen | zynzel: either order and I get the same error message | 19:30 |
| zynzel | swinchen: ls -l /etc/nova | 19:30 |
| zynzel | ls -la /etc/nova even | 19:30 |
| swinchen | zynzel: api-paste.ini nova-compute.conf nova.conf policy.json | 19:31 |
| zynzel | swinchen: ls -la | 19:31 |
| swinchen | zynzel: http://pastesite.com/40889 | 19:32 |
| swinchen | omg, is this a permissions problem. | 19:33 |
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| zynzel | swinchen: check command from /etc/init/nova-compute.conf as user nova | 19:34 |
| zynzel | and not root | 19:34 |
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| zynzel | 'nova' at the end of 'su' | 19:34 |
| swinchen | zynzel: that ... didn't error, but it also didn't start nova-compute | 19:35 |
| swinchen | no output at all | 19:35 |
| swinchen | su -c 'nova-compute --verbose --flagfile /etc/nova/nova-compute.conf /etc/nova/nova.conf' nova | 19:35 |
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| zynzel | swinchen: su -c "nova-compute --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova.conf --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova-compute.conf" nova | 19:37 |
| swinchen | zynzel: nothing. | 19:38 |
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| zynzel | swinchen: nothing nothing? ;) | 19:39 |
| zynzel | and in logs also nothing nothing? | 19:39 |
| swinchen | zynzel: nothing nothing :( logs empty, no messages.... | 19:40 |
| swinchen | no nova service running | 19:40 |
| zynzel | swinchen: su -c "strace nova-compute --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova.conf --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova-compute.conf" nova | 19:40 |
| swinchen | zynzel: nothing nothing again. | 19:42 |
| zynzel | lol? | 19:42 |
| zynzel | this is imposible. | 19:42 |
| zynzel | strace producte BAZYLION of logs :) | 19:43 |
| swinchen | I know. I can't imagine what is going on. | 19:43 |
| swinchen | was I looking for the wrong log? I looked at nova-compute.log | 19:43 |
| swinchen | zynzel: running it as root produces TONS of logs | 19:44 |
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| swinchen | zynzel: I could paste it if you like. | 19:51 |
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| zynzel | but running from root dont give anything | 19:54 |
| zynzel | why running from nova user dont produce any log? | 19:54 |
| swinchen | maybe because several of the config files are owned by root... and it runs into permission problems? I don't know. | 19:55 |
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| mitchellbroome | i'm running into an issue with the ec2 api where I have to have a user in the admin role in keystone to create instances but if i add them to that role, they see all of the instances in other tenants with a describe_instance | 19:56 |
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| COner | i'm having trouble getting my instances to come up on a second compute node; when i execute sudo nova-manage service list, everything is displayed on bother the controller and the node (both have compute capabilities) | 19:56 |
| swinchen | even this produces nothing: su -c "ls /" nova | 19:56 |
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| COner | so as i do 'nova boot...' images successfully startup on the controller, but they stay in an error state when the service attempts to deploy them to node | 19:57 |
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| swinchen | zynzel: promise you won't kill me? | 20:00 |
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| swinchen | [DEFUALT] != [DEFAULT] | 20:01 |
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| phschwartz | darn, just realized all the centos 6.x docs are forgetting to mention rabbit install and configure | 20:08 |
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| zynzel | swinchen: -.-' ;) | 20:08 |
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| swinchen | zynzel: I can't thank you enough for your help though. I was going crazy, and your help kept me looking at it. | 20:10 |
| phschwartz | I am getting this error: http://paste2.org/p/2092027 how do I add a volume group? | 20:12 |
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| zynzel | swinchen: no problem | 20:13 |
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| GiBa | hello | 20:13 |
| GiBa | wsup | 20:13 |
| GiBa | hi | 20:13 |
| GiBa | ;) | 20:13 |
| GiBa | im installing a fresh openstack | 20:13 |
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| noob_ | any good examples out there for setting up a multi compute node with openvswitch? | 20:16 |
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| COner | i'm having trouble getting images to startup on a second compute node; they just stay in an error state, but nova-manage service list shows the compute nodes | 20:20 |
| noob_ | anything in the nova-compute logs? | 20:21 |
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| COner | just the standard info/audit messages | 20:24 |
| COner | i think that it could be either network setup (but probably not) or ssh setup (probably) -> i'm using fedora17 and the tutorial that i am using is unclear about how to distribute the keys for nova | 20:24 |
| noob_ | yeah a lot of things are kinda vague still | 20:25 |
| GiBa | so | 20:25 |
| noob_ | keystone is the key distribution service i believe | 20:25 |
| GiBa | sorry to open a new thread | 20:25 |
| GiBa | im about to create the endpoints | 20:25 |
| GiBa | and i was wondering if the urls are ok | 20:25 |
| GiBa | im setting a two computers setup | 20:25 |
| GiBa | with two nics each | 20:26 |
| GiBa | as the doc says | 20:26 |
| noob_ | dump those in paste.openstack.org and we'll take a look | 20:26 |
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| GiBa | the first ip is 10.10.10.2 | 20:26 |
| GiBa | of the public | 20:26 |
| COner | noob_ : which, just the nova-compute log from both machine? | 20:26 |
| GiBa | and the one for sharing with the node is 192.168.50.149 | 20:26 |
| GiBa | sy | 20:26 |
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| GiBa | is a 192.168* | 20:26 |
| GiBa | so, i was wondering | 20:27 |
| noob_ | COner: yeah lets see the nova-compute and the nova-network log | 20:27 |
| GiBa | if the endpoints shouldnt use the 192.* addresses instead of the ones on the docs | 20:27 |
| GiBa | (10.*) | 20:27 |
| GiBa | ? | 20:27 |
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| noob_ | GIBa: try it and see what happens. can't hurt, you can always change them | 20:28 |
| UICTamale | What generally causes the keystone_data.sh script to throw these errors? - No handlers could be found for logger "keystoneclient.client" - and - Unable to authorize user | 20:29 |
| noob_ | UICTamale: what is that script trying to connect to? | 20:29 |
| GiBa | well, thats the question | 20:31 |
| GiBa | it should work both ways | 20:31 |
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| GiBa | cuase both machines have 2 nics one in each network | 20:31 |
| noob_ | GiBA: does each nic hold one of those ip spaces? | 20:31 |
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| GiBa | yes | 20:31 |
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| GiBa | the question is more "theorical" | 20:31 |
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| ev0ldave | giba, i would use the 10.* as endpoints and environment comms and leave the second interface with no ip and setup the bridge on that for instances | 20:32 |
| UICTamale | noob_: I'm on step three here | 20:32 |
| UICTamale | http://www.hastexo.com/resources/docs/installing-openstack-essex-4-ubuntu-1204-precise-pangolin/step-3-install-and-configur | 20:32 |
| UICTamale | looks like it's trying to connect to the local keystone instance | 20:32 |
| UICTamale | which is running | 20:32 |
| noob_ | UICTamale: double check the passwords are ok? | 20:32 |
| ev0ldave | hastexo walk through isn't too great for first time setup. check out uksysadmin on github | 20:33 |
| UICTamale | that's the password I set in keystone's config, right? not mysql? | 20:33 |
| GiBa | im trying to avoid the hastexo tuto | 20:33 |
| GiBa | im seting all by hand | 20:33 |
| UICTamale | :( | 20:33 |
| UICTamale | I wish I had heard that before I started | 20:33 |
| UICTamale | the docs and search engines point here | 20:33 |
| GiBa | the second nic brdged with no ip connecting one node to each other ? | 20:33 |
| ev0ldave | if you just want something to play with uksysadmin will have you up and running in about 10 min | 20:33 |
| GiBa | so vms on the first nova can se vms on the second nova | 20:33 |
| UICTamale | nah, it's not for just playing with | 20:33 |
| GiBa | is that the idea? | 20:33 |
| UICTamale | this will be our dev environment | 20:34 |
| ev0ldave | you can tweak it after that | 20:34 |
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| COner | noob_ : paste.openstack.com/show/19935 | 20:34 |
| UICTamale | true | 20:34 |
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| ev0ldave | http://uksysadmin.wordpress.com/category/cloud-and-virtualization/openstack/ | 20:35 |
| UICTamale | thanks | 20:36 |
| UICTamale | ah the whole install is scripted | 20:37 |
| ev0ldave | yep | 20:37 |
| UICTamale | I'm not sure I want that level of automation | 20:37 |
| UICTamale | lol | 20:37 |
| GiBa | XD | 20:37 |
| ev0ldave | well, you can go through the script and tweak it, but you will understand the setup/install process after a bit | 20:37 |
| GiBa | im still wondering about those urls ... | 20:37 |
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| UICTamale | yup, good call | 20:37 |
| UICTamale | I'm basically following a script now too | 20:38 |
| ev0ldave | i want the automation for keystone setup which is the script you were referring to anyway | 20:38 |
| UICTamale | except the keystone_setup.sh isn't working :P | 20:38 |
| UICTamale | lol exactly | 20:38 |
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| ev0ldave | but the osinstall.sh script, you can modify the nova.conf configuration there which is a good portion of running this beast | 20:38 |
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| UICTamale | would you recommend I wipe things if I try this script? | 20:39 |
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| UICTamale | or should it be able to pick up where I left off? | 20:40 |
| dubsquared | getting greedy :P — you can try it and if it blows up, well, wipe and restart :) | 20:40 |
| ev0ldave | at least wipe the mysql database | 20:40 |
| ev0ldave | are you installing the database on the controller? | 20:41 |
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| UICTamale | yeah, unless that's a bad idea | 20:41 |
| UICTamale | I was hoping it'd be a little more ganeti, which isn't really centralized | 20:43 |
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| UICTamale | i hate it when I ctrl-w in the wrong window | 20:44 |
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| ev0ldave | just curious | 20:57 |
| swinchen | is anyone familiar with this when adding an image to glance: ServiceUnavailable: The request returned 503 Service Unavilable. This generally occurs on service overload or other transient outage. | 20:57 |
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| Ryan_Lane | so, the docs don't really go much into having more than one region. is each region basically treated like a full stack, with database and all? | 20:58 |
| Ryan_Lane | and then you register each region with keystone as endpoints? | 20:59 |
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| ev0ldave | ryan_lane: sorry, no idea, i've only used one in mine | 21:21 |
| luis_ | hi folks, anybody knows how to get rid of this error when debugging nova-api from eclipse | 21:22 |
| luis_ | "error: cannot switch to a different thread" | 21:22 |
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| ev0ldave | trying to configure dhcp_domain, is there anything to watch out for here? when i set --dhcp_domain=this.is.my.test.domain nova freaks out and i can not ping instances anymore | 21:33 |
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| ev0ldave | i take that back, it just doesn't do anything, the hostnames still get configured as .novalocal | 21:35 |
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| edude03 | Good day everyone, I have a small issue with openstack essex, I'm playing with it on a dedicated server I'm renting, it only has 1 NIC so I set the VMs interface to eth0:1, however when I created my first VM it seems to disconnect my server from the net | 21:39 |
| edude03 | Doesn't reply to ping or anything but I doubt its off, haven't tried rebooting it yet, but I can | 21:40 |
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| ev0ldave | as far as i know, you can't bridge virtual interfaces unless you are running a virtual switch | 21:44 |
| trygvis | edude03: you shouldn't have to do that, you can run openstack on a single interface | 21:45 |
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| edude03 | OK, is there anything special I need to do to use 1 nic? | 21:46 |
| trygvis | it is fairly well documented | 21:47 |
| ev0ldave | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/libvirt-flat-networking.html | 21:47 |
| ev0ldave | first example on that page | 21:47 |
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| edude03 | OK, let me kick off a rebuild and I'll give that a shot, out of curiosity though, there isn't an easier way to install openstack other than doing the commands 1 at a time (or using a script) IE a preconfigured ISO? | 21:49 |
| trygvis | there are complete scripts (ask ev0ldave) and iso's | 21:50 |
| ev0ldave | cloudstack is a preconfigured ISO | 21:50 |
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| ev0ldave | uses nova, but isn't openstack | 21:51 |
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| edude03 | Oh OK, I was just going to say that :P | 21:54 |
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| edude03 | Cloudstack is Citrix's fork of Openstack IIRC | 21:55 |
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| dubsquared | cloudstack != openstack | 22:00 |
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| zykes- | edude03: no, cloudstack is a opensource project from the company citrix bought earlier (cloud.com) | 22:02 |
| zykes- | it's java based and more Amazon ish and not like openstack which is a ecosystem of different projects | 22:02 |
| edude03 | Ah OK | 22:03 |
| ev0ldave | anybody have luck using dhcp_domain to change fqdn in instances on build? | 22:03 |
| context | isnt openstack api comopatible with amazon ? | 22:03 |
| edude03 | I sort of want to run Cloudstack for the EC2 compatibility though but cloud foundry works with openstack anyway | 22:03 |
| ev0ldave | they are all ec2 compatible | 22:04 |
| ev0ldave | eucalyptus, cloudstack and yes, openstack | 22:04 |
| ev0ldave | and opennova | 22:04 |
| context | gotcha. i have NexentaStor running at home, getting 2x openstack servers setup tonight after i get VLANing running on router | 22:05 |
| edude03 | Sweet | 22:05 |
| zykes- | context: more or the less yeah | 22:05 |
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| context | setting up openstack manually i cant use the same interface for service/storage and public traffic can i ? | 22:06 |
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| zykes- | context: yes you can | 22:07 |
| context | oh. that makes my life easier. the stackops distro required two interfaces | 22:07 |
| context | but i went ahead and install debian 7 beta | 22:07 |
| zykes- | context: use ubuntu 12.04 | 22:08 |
| zykes- | instead :) | 22:08 |
| zykes- | ubuntu is very openstack friendly | 22:08 |
| zykes- | or fedora | 22:08 |
| context | but debian 7 has all of openstack in apt already | 22:08 |
| trygvis | it works very fine on debian | 22:08 |
| context | and rpm can go to hell | 22:08 |
| zykes- | trygvis: ok :) | 22:08 |
| zykes- | you can argue that all you want, they are still a big force to be reckoned with ;) | 22:09 |
| trygvis | context: I'm installing a similar setup now | 22:09 |
| zykes- | trygvis: Folsom ? | 22:09 |
| context | then i get to learn chef | 22:09 |
| trygvis | 2012.1.1 | 22:09 |
| context | well, learn chef more | 22:09 |
| trygvis | context: http://wiki.debian.org/OpenStackPuppetHowto | 22:09 |
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| context | meh, im use to chef already using it on EngineYard | 22:10 |
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| ev0ldave | alright, this is getting ridiculous. changed the default value for dhcp_domain in nova/network/manager.py and still default domain on instance boot is novalocal | 22:20 |
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| context | ev0ldave: restart nova ? | 22:26 |
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| ev0ldave | yeah, compute, network and api | 22:28 |
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| TommyC | Is there a stable, non-development source code release version of OpenStack for distributions that are not debian(-based) or RedHat(-based)? | 22:52 |
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| Ryan_Lane | TommyC: you can always download from git | 22:52 |
| Ryan_Lane | there are branches (and likely tags) for each release | 22:53 |
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| TommyC | Ryan_Lane: These would be considered stable (since they're for each release), correct? | 22:53 |
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| Ryan_Lane | essex is the current stable | 22:54 |
| Ryan_Lane | it's likely what you should use | 22:54 |
| TommyC | Ryan_Lane: Thank you very much. | 22:54 |
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| Ryan_Lane | you're welcome | 22:54 |
| TommyC | I wish I could express how much I really mean that, but text over the internet isn't very good for its purposes. ^^ | 22:54 |
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| jeremyb | TommyC: maybe '<3' ? | 22:59 |
| jeremyb | gah | 22:59 |
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| Disconnect | i'm guessing there is no simple way to create public ips on different networks on a per-instance basis. is that right? gotta get a fileserver pointed to a bunch of networks, but I can't let all the vms (or any future vms) see the other networks | 23:36 |
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| ev0ldave | Disconnect: quantum | 23:37 |
| Disconnect | crap. i've got bigger problems. "reboot" evidently involved throwing out my entire setup and starting with a blank image. thats not good :/ | 23:37 |
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| Disconnect | ok maybe not, maybe its just the vm being brain damaged. | 23:38 |
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| Disconnect | yah it failed to save its config. not openstack's fault. just another adventure though. | 23:39 |
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