Thursday, 2012-08-02

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uvirtbotNew bug: #1031998 in nova "nova-novncproxy needs an additional argument to websickify constructor" [Undecided,New]
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tixwho's around? cryptk, dolphm01:36
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1032022 in devstack "devstack do not update stack-screenrc if screen already exist" [Undecided,New]
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marrabldOnce I have booted a VM and logged in via ssh using mmy .pem key.  Is it possible to add local vm users accounts so that can other users can ssh in to the vm in the usual ssh way?05:49
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cryptkonce it is booted, you can administer it and work with it just like you would any linux system05:51
marrabldThanks cryptk.  I am getting a public key error for the user account I added so I must have done something wrong.  At least I know where to look for my error.  Cheers05:54
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evil_steve...your pem key?06:08
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* cryptk assumed he meant his public and private SSH keys06:15
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marrabldno pem key worked fine.  setup a local user pushed their ssh key to .ssh/authorized_keys  <-- misspelled and made error.  Fixed now and all is good.  Thanks06:20
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alex88hi guys, i'm trying to delete a network, i have no instances running, nova list is empty and nova-manage network delete gives Network 6 is still in use. what should i do?07:13
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zynzelalex88: select * from fixed_ips where network_id=607:19
alex88zynzel, returns all the ip of that network07:20
alex88oh, some of them has an instance id on it07:21
alex88and it's allocated07:21
alex88but i've deleted the vm..07:22
alex88i'm using flatdhcp and i've started a vm which was getting one ip for each network, but it failed to spawn07:23
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zynzelalex88: so deallocate ip in db and then delete07:27
alex88zynzel, thanks it worked, now i've deleted all networks, created 2 networks each with a project id, starting a new vm gives IndexError: list index out of range in logs07:29
alex88maybe --project-id= works only in vlan mode?07:29
zynzelalex88: probably yes, we dont use project_id for fixed ips07:29
alex88zynzel, so i need to use a bigger netmask… maybe i'll try to switch to vlan07:30
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alex88btw, zynzel, you know what nova dns-* commands are for? is there a way to use hostnames for getting the vm ip?07:30
SkyManzynzel: that was my question yesterday :)07:31
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SkyManHi stackers, i am wondering what is the default storage mecanism for the OS VMs ??07:36
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alex88SkyMan, what you mean with storage mechanism? afaik vms are stored into /var/lib/nova/instances/07:37
SkyMananyone to answer my question ?07:38
SkyManAhh Good then07:38
SkyManExcuse me but whats nova volumes are good for then ?07:38
SkyManalex88: is there a way to make VMs stored in another place like a san virtual disk for example to ease live migration :)07:40
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alex88SkyMan, i'm using a shared fs, just mount the /var/lib/nova/instances on all the hosts ;)07:41
moj0risingCan anyone give me a rough estimate on how long it should take for a small VM to build? I'm waiting for one to finish now. There are no errors in the logs but it has been going for 15 minutes, which seems long.07:41
SkyManalex88: Smart move :)07:42
alex88moj0rising, it is, it should be like 30 seconds07:42
SkyManmoj0rising: you VM is surely stuck at some place07:42
SkyManmoj0rising: do nova show "vm name"07:43
SkyManmoj0rising: it will give you the current task07:43
uvirtbotNew bug: #1032053 in nova "Get flavors with both minDisk and minRam filters returns bad request instead of display matched flavors" [Undecided,New]
SkyManalex88: openstack services are all installed on the fs or just some of them ?07:45
alex88"are all installed on the fs" what you mean?07:45
alex88actually i'm using shared folders for glance images and nova instances07:45
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SkyManalex88: ahh i though you installed openstack on the same disk for all nodes07:47
SkyMani a bit noob when it come to multi hosts :(07:47
alex88SkyMan, no, i don't think that's possible, but i'm managing all openstack services using pacemaker in ha mode07:47
SkyManalex88: okay, for the dns, i asked zynzel yesterday about it and he replied that07:48
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SkyManalex88: he is using powerdns and a view to query floating ip addresses from nova database07:49
SkyManalex88: do you understand me ?07:49
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alex88never heard about powerdns07:53
alex88so he's running a dns server in the network, which gets the hostnames/ip from the db07:54
moj0risingAh. Sorry I missed your comments, there...07:54
moj0risingThe current status is build07:55
alex88SkyMan, checkout it has some nice articles ;)07:55
alex88about ha, shared storage etc07:55
moj0risingThe progress is "0"07:55
moj0risingso does this mean it hasn't even really started?07:56
uvirtbotNew bug: #1032066 in nova "Creating Image with name as special characters does not raise any error message" [Undecided,New]
SkyManalex88: thanks :) , btw, is there a command to start all os services with one command ?07:57
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kviiriwrite the commands to a file and run as script08:00
moj0risingalex88, SkyMan, Any ideas on where I can look for clues on what's going on with the vms?08:03
SkyManmoj0rising: like i said do nova show "vm name" , more details will be found at nova log08:04
SkyMankviiri: thanks :)08:04
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kviiriThe first ~30 times I had to restart everything: "I guess I'll just type them out, I won't have top do this anymore later on so why bother making a script"08:07
moj0risingSkyMan: There isn't anything there beyond what I printed in the channel. The logs have no entries in them for the last few hours.   :(   Any other clues?08:08
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SkyManalex88: yea zynzel has a dns server (powerdns ) that matches floating ips (extracted with views) with custom addresses08:21
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SkyManmoj0rising: when you do nova-manage service list , does any service shows at its state XXX ?08:22
alex88SkyMan, seems a nice solution, too lazy now to install it :)08:22
SkyManalex88: hhhh so am i :D08:22
moj0risingSkyMan: No. The State is :-)08:23
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melmothI m looking at some doc on how to use ssl to authenticate in keystone.08:27
melmothIn the essex branch there s a doc/source/old/ssl.rst file.08:27
melmothwhy is it in a "old" subdirectory ?08:28
melmothis this somehing that is actually supposed to work ? If not, where to look at ?08:28
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moj0risingWell, I should be calling it a day. Thanks for your help, Skyman. Bummer I don't have it working yet but I'll be banging on this tomorrow and will probably report on my results somewhere for future googlers.08:35
SkyManmoj0rising: :) , Good luck then :)08:36
moj0risingThanks.   :)08:38
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1032088 in swift "raise "TODO: Need to find an Exception to raise here." TypeError: exceptions must be old-style classes or derived from BaseException, not str" [Undecided,New]
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1032092 in nova "Invalid XML request is returning 500 ERROR instead of Bad Request 400 exception" [Undecided,New]
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diablohi ...  in openstack for loading a new image openstack first links it to a base image and then stores the differences of the instances, can anybody point me to the file where all these things are coded10:06
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diablohi i am fairly new to openstack .... can anybody help me on the above issue10:11
melmothsorry, i must be newer than you, i have no idea about that :)10:14
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melmothdo you have any doc about the thing you are talking about, just to get an idea what seems to be the question ?10:14
koolhead17diablo, glance developer doc helps10:15
diabloactually i got to know it from the forums10:16
diablobut i am not sure where it is coded10:17
diabloquestion is openstack uses a qcow2 image format ... when sveral instances run the same image the image is not replicated but a copy on write layer is used10:18
diablousing the base image10:18
diabloi think it happens in kvm-qemu10:19
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melmothdiablo, what about ?10:20
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melmothdiablo, what you could do is, add a python debugger breakpoint here, run nova-compute manually, launch an instance10:20
melmothwait untill you got a prompt. Look at the backtrace, see what the heck was nova doing just before ?10:21
diablomelmoth, thanks ... let me look at the code maybe i will figure out something10:22
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1032118 in openstack-manuals "Example implemetation path needs correction in class ExtensionsManager in nova/api/openstack/ " [Undecided,New]
uvirtbotNew bug: #1032122 in devstack "Incorrect XenServer tools being installed" [Undecided,New]
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diablomelmoth, it seems that openstack calls an external command "qemu-img" ... so if I need to change something over there then I have to change the how qemu-img is implemented10:45
diablois there any other way by which i can change that10:46
melmothto be honest, i have no real idea how that works. I just looked for qcow2 in the nova code, hoping to find something related10:47
melmothbut this is something i never got in touch with10:47
diablook i see10:47
trygvisif you just want to do some testing you can always replace the qemu-img command10:47
diablobut if i want to change how qemu implements qcow2 so as to modify it10:48
diablobtw is qemu-img part of the openstack project10:48
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trygvison my box it's a part of the qemu-utils package so I doubt it10:49
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diablook ... so if i need to change it i cant do it thru openstack code, right? ... i need to basicallly change the qemu source code10:53
diabloand then link openstack or something10:53
trygviswell, you wouldn't have to do anything with openstack as it would just call your new binaries10:54
diabloyah right10:54
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diabloi wanted to mean it is a separate binary which openstack uses in it's project10:55
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trygvishm, my instance is running and seems to have gotten an IP. but I can't ping nor ssh to it11:25
trygvisI see a vnet0 interface and it's connected to br100. br100 has the ip, the instance has .211:26
trygvisicmp and tcp, port=22 should be allowed as far as I can tell from secgroup-list-rules11:27
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[1]alexn6try to see console log or grep kvm procecc, fin vnc port and connect to it11:28
trygvisI have the console log, it seems to have booted just fine11:29
trygvishow do I connect with vnc?11:29
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trygvisoh, that worked11:30
melmothtrygvis, do you see the incoming packet on the bridge ? (i hope one can use -i br100 on the hypervisor's tcpdump) ?11:30
[1]alexn6ps aux|grep kvm (or your instance name) - in that string there is vnc flag with port. If only one - then this_machine_IP:590011:30
melmothhey, if you can get in vnc, you may even look at a tcpdmp from the vm too11:32
trygvisoh, wait. the host has an IP from the dns on the lan11:32
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trygvissweet, setting the correct IP fixed it11:34
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1032152 in horizon ""Select all" flag selects all lines, including hidden by filter lines." [Undecided,New]
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1032155 in python-glanceclient " shouldn't have requires" [Undecided,New]
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trygvishm, I'm unable to delete an instance that is in the error state12:41
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kviiritrygvis: nova delete simply does nothing?12:42
trygvisseemingly, yes12:42
kviiriI've scrubbed some of these "ghost instances" from the DB manually (and with a script)12:42
kyriakostail nova-compute.log on the system that the instance runs on while issuing the delete command12:42
kviiriBefore resorting to DB tinkering, it's of course best to be sure12:43
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trygvisit has been a while since I stopped the instance, I can't remember if I had an issue before dropping the network or not12:45
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kyriakoscheck the nova-network log as well, you'll probably see a matching error on that side12:46
trygvisyep: NetworkNotFound: Network 1 could not be found.12:47
trygvisit seems that deleting networks is a bad idea :)12:48
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kviiriAt what point does OpenStack decide what virtual interfaces/networks it creates for the VMs?12:53
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trygvisis it possible to tell which mac address an image should use up front?12:57
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trygvisI'd like to use the flat manager and have the existing dhcp server give out ip addresses12:57
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trygvisactually I'd need to know the fixed ip and the mac address12:58
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trygvisalternatively, run flat+dhcp but in a way that doesn't mess up the existing dhcp server13:00
trygvisthe compute node has two physical interfaces if that makes it easier13:01
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kyriakosare you using xen or mvm ?13:03
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trygviscan the image detect its own ip, like without dhcp?13:04
trygvisI'm not sure how these cloud tools that you install in the images work13:04
trygvisI guess I could make a startup script that looks at some kvm meta data13:04
kyriakosseen this?
Apoloniokyriakos, I don't remember seeing this.13:05
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kyriakosnova implements this api13:06
trygvisyeah, I've seen that the cirros image accesses that13:06
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1032174 in swift "swift3 returns 500 on bucket?versioning request" [Undecided,New]
kyriakosso you could use a link local ip to access that API, figure out your IP and set it in your system13:06
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Sweetsharkcan somebody tell me thelicense on thegerrit ircbot?13:08
Sweetshark(nothing in the source itself on github)13:08
kviiriApache licence13:09
kviiriNo wait, that was the other Gerrit13:10
kviiriNot sure about the irc bot, haven't heard of it13:10
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eb_For error I launched a m1.medium image, so in /var/lib/nova/instances/_base was created a big file tha I delete but not all the space is available us before the operation. There are other files to delete?13:15
uvirtbotNew bug: #1032177 in nova "nova-manage floating list command failed" [Undecided,New]
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trygviskyriakos: is the web server available as long as the instance is running?13:20
kyriakosit runs on the same system as nova-compute13:21
kyriakosoh sorry I misread the question. The service is available any time you need it13:21
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trygvisI misread the output from wget, it says no route to host13:22
kviiriSorry if I've already bored you by asking this over and over again but I still have some hope someone here knows about this13:25
kviiriI get ERROR: NetworkNotFound: Network 8c842e6b-808c-4792-87bb-739c5035a046 could not be found. (HTTP 400)13:26
kviiriEven though the network exists13:26
kviiriI'm trying to use commands similar to the ones described here:
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kviiri(I changed the network uuid to one that actually exists)13:28
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trygvishm, I can't access the config server13:39
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trygvisI wonder why I'm getting no route to host. I've set the ip to and the server is supposed to run on
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cooljtrygvis: what do you get from iptables-save | fgrep on the host?13:42
trygvis-A nova-network-PREROUTING -d -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination
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trygvisI see some old IPs in iptables-save, I'll try to reboot the box and see if that'll shake it loose13:44
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eb_In Compute I ha this problem:sometimes I have error because : Reconnecting to AMQP server on localhost:5672 AMQP server on localhost:5672 is unreachable: [Errno 111] ECONNREFUSED, but sometimes is work. The problem is that AMQP it isn't localhost but a different ip.13:55
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trygviseb_: sounds like you need to look at your nova.conf13:59
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melmotheb_, wrong --rabbit_host  ?13:59
trygvisand the --rabbit_host key, at least if you're using rabbit13:59
eb_in nova.conf --rabbit_host=
eb_what is rabbit_host key?14:01
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trygviscoolj: hm, now I'm not getting any output from that grep14:05
kyriakosare nova-network/nova-compute up and running ?14:05
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eb_when I restart nova-compute it works: Connected to AMQP server on
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cooljtrygvis: does netstat -ntlp show anything listening on 8775 (or 8773)?14:14
Disconnectwhere is the database set for nova-manage? I intermittantly get "unable to open database None None" and its coming up on time to teach my team how to use this thing14:14
Disconnectit says check the logs, but of course there isn't much there14:15
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trygvisyes, both14:15
davidPwhen I try to create a network14:16
kyriakosDisconnect, in /etc/nova/nova.conf which is owned by root and readable only by root14:16
davidPhere is the error message that I get14:16
davidPTypeError: create() got multiple values for keyword argument 'num_networks'14:16
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kyriakosDisconnect, are you running nova-manage as root?14:16
Disconnectok. is it necessary to be readable for users (with proper OS_* env) to read?14:16
Disconnectno. i'll set up a group.14:16
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kyriakosDisconnect, it's full of sensitive details like passwords etc so I'd be careful who can access it14:17
davidPnova is fustrating :P GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR14:17
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Disconnectyah admins only. but we're the only ones who can log in at all so..14:18
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Disconnectlol. it kicks over to "please run as root"14:18
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cooljtrygvis: hmm...if there's a /var/lock/nova/nova-iptables.lock, delete that and restart nova-network and see if the dnat gets added to iptables14:19
trygvisit's not present14:20
Disconnecthmm. nova floating-ip-create is out of sync with the dashboard. (shows the one I just added, but not that I assigned it to an instance. doesn't show the one from yesterday, even tho dash shows it assigned and its working)14:20
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Disconnectdnsmasq is handled by nova-network right? its not updating (or working) and its still running after stopping network. I suspect its wedged.14:21
cooljtrygvis: heh, maybe restart nova-network anyway? /F5 til you get in14:22
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Disconnectyah killing them and starting nova-network restarted them. they still don't work or anything, but they're running. time to poke the confi.14:22
eb_Error Spawning on compute:
eb_'ip_address': mapping['ips'][0]['ip'],  nova.compute.manager IndexError: list index out of range14:24
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phschwartzWhat is the best way to setup OpenStack when you have 1 nic connected with a single /24 to use.14:28
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Disconnectphschwartz: i'm real new but you could probably do vlanning14:37
Disconnector just create named aliases in /etc/network/interfaces with the different "networks".14:37
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cooljtrygvis: any luck?14:39
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cooljtrygvis: so the dnat still doesn't show up in iptables-save on the host?14:42
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trygviswould even nova-network try to look at what is running and set up iptables again?14:42
cooljyeah, it should. any errors in nova-network.log?14:43
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phschwartzDisconnect: I think with the one nic I need to run Flat.14:45
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Disconnectif it is just one node just set the outside to eth0 and create a blind bridge (no members) for the backend14:49
Disconnecter.. if i reboot a compute node, is it expected that all the instances disappear into the ether?14:51
Disconnectoh nevermind. stupid demo project. whew.14:51
cooljtrygvis: does ip a | fgrep return anything?14:53
Disconnectok they did disappear. dash shows them running. hmm.14:53
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trygviscoolj: nope14:54
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1032222 in devstack "Python-keystone client version mismatch" [Undecided,New]
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Disconnectugh. looks like i've got a nice pile of unusable now :( how do I recover from rebooting a compute node? (well.. an everything node) i've got volumes that are still stuck in deleting (because the iscsi hp stuff didnt' work) and now instances that are stuck in 'terminating' because they weren't running after the reboot..14:56
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cooljtrygvis: it should always bind that to lo and add the dnat:
cooljnot sure why it isn't14:57
phschwartzDisconnect: Not doing one node for this. I need to get a POC up and it is 12 nodes. Not going to multi nic till after.14:57
Disconnectwhat kind of server only comes with one nic? :) not sure what issues you'll run into, but i do know it makes a lot of assumptions about configuration. (eg I just spent 30 mins arguing with multinode because I have 2 bonds going to the same backend network and it kept running 'ip addr' against the non-bridged one ...)14:59
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Disconnectif you set up vlanning on the switches (set it to 'tagged' with a default) you can create the interfaces and isolation it wants without having to go through a lot of hoops14:59
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Disconnectyaaay. restarting nova-compute fixed it. looks like there is a bad dependency somewhere in startup (at least one, since it logs tons of errors trying to connect to mysql before mysql is started..)15:01
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davidPhumm anybody would like to help ? please15:25
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1032243 in devstack "python-cmd2 requires pyparsing" [Undecided,New]
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cooljdavidP: we can try :)15:26
davidPI have a multi-host setup15:26
davidPa controller and a compute node15:27
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davidPthe VM on the compute nodes15:27
davidPboot properly15:27
davidPbut the VMs on the controller15:27
davidPboot get an IP address15:27
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davidPbut hang on15:27
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davidPwith the following message15:28
davidPcloud-setup: checking
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cooljdavidP: does it show timeout trying to connect after that?15:30
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davidPcoolj yeah15:31
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cooljdavidP: check that is assigned to lo interface, and make sure you see a rule pointing to the host ip:8773 (default port is 8773) in iptables-save for
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davidPcoolj no the address is not assigned to the loopback interface15:34
cooljis it on any interface?15:34
UICTamaleGood morning everyone.  I'm about to install openstack for the first time on a set of new servers, and I was wondering if there was any way to use redis for messaging instead of rabbitmq15:34
davidPbut the port 8773 is definietely open15:35
cooljif there an iptable dnat for the 169?15:36
davidPchecking it15:37
cooljit should be like -A nova-network-PREROUTING -d -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination <host ip>:877315:37
davidPDNAT       tcp  --  anywhere         tcp dpt:http to:
davidPfor me dunno why15:38
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davidPcoolj alive?15:39
cooljdoes curl (or 8773) from the host return anything?15:40
coolj(I assume -A nova-network-PREROUTING -d -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination <host ip>:877315:40
cooljI assume is the primary ip of the host15:40
davidPit returns15:40
davidPsome numbers15:41
davidPlike dates15:41
davidPwith 877515:41
cooljok, that sounds right15:41
cooljdoes iptables-save | fgrep return anything?15:41
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davidP-A nova-network-PREROUTING -d -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination
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davidPI just noticed my compute service on the controller is down15:43
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davidPwithout any error log15:43
cooljyou might ned to restart nova-api-os-* also15:43
cooljor os-pi whatever it is!15:44
davidPhehe it is up again15:44
davidPrestart what ?15:44
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davidPah ok sorry15:45
davidPnova-api you mean right?15:45
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cooljfor diablo it was nova-api, but they split them out at some point in essex...if you have nova-api, restart that!15:47
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davidPI am n00b to nova and cloud computing15:49
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cooljdavidP: no worries, openstack is new ground for a lot of us, I think15:50
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fm255005im having an issue with nova where the project that is shown in horizon that works, doesn't show up under nova-manage project list15:52
fm255005it shows that i have no projects15:52
davidPcoolj: stuck at the same state15:52
davidPwithout timing out this time15:53
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fm255005but when i log in to horizon i see the project there with the id15:53
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davidPfm255005 try nova-manage db sync15:55
davidPand see15:55
cooljfm255005: if you're using keystone, it will be in the keystone.tenant table and nova.projects will be empty...there's a bug with encodings and a foreign key contraint that makes mysql unable to read from nova.projects:
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fm255005yea im using keystone15:56
fm255005the issue is that im trying to set up zenoss' openstack module15:56
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fm255005and its asking for the nova url and nova api15:56
cooljdavidP: so it's still stuck at cloud-setup but you're not seeing the url timeout messages in the log?15:56
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davidPcoolj now the timeout appears15:57
davidPand the VM relauches the request15:57
fm255005one comment is this15:58
fm255005echo $NOVA_URL echo $NOVA_API_KEY The former will show the auth-url, the latter will show the API key15:58
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fm255005thats not showing up for me15:58
fm255005i know the nova url15:58
fm255005but i cant understand what they want for the nova api15:58
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cooljdavidP: what does fgrep ec2_listen /etc/nova/nova.conf show?15:59
fm255005"I'd recommend searching for "nova-manage project zipefile" which will describe how to export user credentials and get the auth-url and API key information above."15:59
fm255005that doesnt work for me since there are no projects16:00
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cooljfm255005: maybe check out env | grep OS_16:01
cooljoh, nm, you're trying to get those values...16:01
fm255005yea i have those credentials16:02
fm255005put dont know where the api key they are looking for16:02
davidPcoolj : fgrep ec2_listen /etc/nova/nova.conf shows nothing16:02
davidPcoolj :but I have ec2_host set to the ip of the controller16:04
cooljdavidP: try adding ec2_listen= (you may need to prefix it with -- on diablo) to nova.conf and restarting all the things16:04
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cooljdavidP: oh, I think that prolly right...I just wonder why the dnat shows instead of the primary IP...may not matter at all, just throwing stuff out16:05
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davidPcoolj same16:08
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cooljdavidP: do you see responses from the metadata server in /var/log/nova/nova-api.log?16:12
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davidPcoolj: RemoteError: Remote error: InstanceNotFound Instance instance-0000002c could not be found16:14
davidPhere is an error I just noticed16:14
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davidPbut the last line of the log16:15
davidPis like this16:15
davidP returned with HTTP 20016:15
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1032269 in devstack " fails setup nova-volume" [Undecided,New]
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cooljso the :8774 should ne the nova api and the path looks about right. the InstanceNotFound seems kind of worisome...does virsh list --all on the host show instance-0000002c?16:17
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davidPcoolj : yes16:18
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phschwartzFor a development environment, is it possible to avoid needing 2 ip's for your vm's (private and public), and have the bridge run in mixed mode where br100's ip on each physical compute node is on the public network. IE, br100 is (public network address) with it bridging over an uniped eth0.16:18
cooljdavidP: on the controller node, does nova show 44 return anything?16:19
trygvisthat's what I'm trying to set up phschwartz and it mainly work. I'm having some issues with the image getting an ip from my dhcp server16:19
trygvisbut that should be fixable once I create a new image16:20
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phschwartztrygvis: good to know it will work. I am also going to run a dhcp server on my controller so all nodes will see that for the ip if set correctly.16:20
davidPcoolj: yes
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phschwartztrygvis: do you mind sharing your nova.conf? I am curious to see how you configured the flat network in there.16:23
cooljdavidP: looks right. I have to sleeps for a few hours now, I'm on a 2nd/3rd swing shift. sorry I couldn't help more! hope you get it worked out16:23
davidPcoolj: np man thanks a lot16:23
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trygvisphschwartz: --flat_interface=eth2 --flat_network_bridge=br100 --fixed_range= --public_interface=eth016:25
trygvispublic_interface shouldn't matter16:25
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trygvisoh and
phschwartzI wonder if that will still work with only one active nic. Second on boxes is not cabled.16:29
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trygvisit should AFAIKT16:30
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fm255005coolj: zenoss' openstack module allows you to view the status of the instances through their ui16:34
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trygvisare there any tutorials on how to build new images that openstack can boot?16:40
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trygvisI'd like to create a clean debian image. I found something here
clarkb has links to a variety of methods16:41
davidPcoolj: if you are still, it works now, dunno by which magic but it works16:41
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UICTamaleHey everyone, I'm a bit confused about the differences between following a traditional guide like 'how to install openstack essex on ubuntu 12.04" and "openstack - how to get started with devstack"16:53
UICTamaleWhat are the pros/cons of devstack vs. openstack?16:53
melmothis it not like ... the same ? but devstack being a scripted one node install targeted mainly at developpers ?16:57
melmothit checktout fresh stuff from git branched, and install the whole shebang in your current box, so you can play a bit with a some piece of code ,and try it out16:57
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UICTamalemelmoth: Gotcha.  I'd assume it's slightly more 'resilient' if we're planning on using the cloud after it's setup for our local dev environment - dev stack is more for people wanting to work ON open stack17:01
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AatonQ: running glance-manage db_sync twice shouldn't give an error right?17:22
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trygvisthere's only one way to find out :)17:24
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JoeJulianDoes a partitioned image have to have the root filesystem as the first partition? I have in my syslog leading me to believe that's the case. This is happening with the fedora image listed on which has the root partion second.17:32
Aatonso when where do snapshots actually get stored? is it directly in glance or do I need to have another backend like switf?17:33
renukaHello, was wondering if anyone from the core reviewers could take a look at this change: It's been sitting there for a while. Thanks!17:34
guimalufhow to force volume remotion?17:34
kbringardAaton: they get stored in glance, on whatever backing method you have setup for glance to use17:37
kbringardso if it's local disk, it'll use local disk17:37
kbringardif it's swift, swift, etc17:37
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Aatonah, so in the config "default_store = file" will just store on local disk.17:39
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guimalufhow can I force a volume deletion?17:47
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renukavishy: Thanks :)17:49
kmwhiteguimaluf, Do the logs provide a reason that it cannot be deleted?17:49
kmwhiteguimaluf, and why forcing is required?17:49
guimalufkmwhite, look like a circular dependecy between vm and volume17:51
uvirtbotNew bug: #1032310 in nova "Tests leave temporary volume files lying around" [Undecided,New]
guimalufkmwhite, there's no vm disk but the volume still attached17:51
guimalufroot@cerebro:/var/lib/nova/instances# nova-manage volume delete 917:54
guimaluf2012-08-02 14:52:42 DEBUG nova.utils [req-120c110f-4669-4f80-bf3f-eb002a42ba71 None None] backend <module 'nova.db.sqlalchemy.api' from '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.pyc'> from (pid=7647) __get_backend /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/
guimalufVolume is in-use.17:54
guimalufDetach volume from instance and then try again.17:54
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guimalufkmwhite, and I cant remove the vm cause it can find the iscsi session to remove the disk17:56
guimalufkmwhite, :/17:56
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1032314 in glance "qpid_heartbeat setting in ineffective" [Undecided,In progress]
uvirtbotNew bug: #1032315 in horizon "Large files cause Horizon to timeout when uploading to the Swift UI" [Undecided,New]
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zynzelwhy nova-compute dont verify image checksum after ownload from glance?18:12
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vachonzynzel: aws doesnt, why would someone bother?18:14
vachonif you are doing it over a realiable network, TCP should recover any corruption18:15
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zynzelvachon: because we have cache in _base/ so if we download corrupted image18:15
zynzelany instance spawned on that node will fail18:15
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zynzeland we have checksum in db, so why we dont use it?18:15
vachonsure, it makes sense, but if i remember computing that checksum took a while on most images18:16
vachonmaybe thats why?18:16
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zynzelvachon: 30s? 40? 60?18:16
zynzelthis is short in comparsion to broken XX instances18:17
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vachonum, i think around 60sec, but since sha can be multi-threaded, it will steal cpu from hosts18:17
kmwhiteguimaluf, If your back end is the LVM storage, you can delete the physical volume, but I'm not sure about how that would affect the rest of the system.18:17
zynzelvachon: checksum in db is md518:17
swinchenOk, so none of my nova services start and there is nothing in the log files.  Is there a way to get any information on why they might be failing?18:17
zynzelso we should check md518:17
vachonah well then, single thread18:17
vachonnot as bad18:17
vachonswinchen: --verbose=true18:18
vachonin your nova.conf18:18
swinchenvachon: ahh thanks.18:18
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swinchenvachon: still nothing :/18:20
Ryan_LaneERROR: Cannot 'reboot' while instance is in task_state rebooting (HTTP 409)18:20
* Ryan_Lane sighs18:20
Ryan_Lanewhy would that ever make sense to enforce?18:20
vachonRyan_Lane: can you force reboot when in reboot?18:20
crazedev0ldave: hey, do you have issues where nova-dns will add an instance to dns more than once? not sure why this happens to me, but seems the pending hash gets re-populated with a uuid that's already been taken care of18:20
Ryan_Laneah. let me try force18:20
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Ryan_Lanevachon: nope18:21
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kmwhiteIf I assign a floating IP to a vm, I should see it in the VM when I do an ifconfig, correct?18:21
Ryan_Laneand guess what? nova errored out while doing it18:21
Ryan_Laneso, now the instance is stuck in the rebooting state18:21
guimalufkmwhite, the problem happen with the iscsi session, it doens't exist anymore18:21
vachonstill one better than me18:23
vachon"can't connect to san"18:23
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* vachon ssh's to the SAN from pycli18:23
vachonfrom the box18:23
vishykmwhite: now, it is a natted ip from the network host18:25
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Ryan_Laneso, is there any way to fix this rebooting issue?18:25
swinchenWell darn it.  :(18:25
Ryan_LaneI tried changing the database to put the instance in the active state18:25
Ryan_LaneERROR: Cannot 'reboot' while instance is in task_state active (HTTP 409)18:25
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vishyRyan_Lane: there are a few states that need to be reset18:25
* Ryan_Lane stabs18:26
vachonyea, im guessing you are locked in rabbit, not the db18:26
vishyRyan_Lane: task_state should be set to None18:26
crazedev0ldave: also, does your LOGing work? seems mine doesn't, so i've just been throwing in print statements18:26
vishyvm_state should be active18:26
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vishyRyan_Lane: are you on trunk?18:26
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vishyRyan_Lane: well you can't use the new fancy nova command to fix it then18:26
vishyRyan_Lane: happy db hacking18:26
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Ryan_Lanevm_state is active18:27
Ryan_Lanetask_state is None18:27
Ryan_LaneERROR: Cannot 'reboot' while instance is in task_state None (HTTP 409)18:27
zynzelRyan_Lane: update instances set vm_state='active',task_state=NULL where uuid='';18:28
zynzeland reboot after that.18:28
Ryan_Lanewhy is this an enforced thing?18:28
Ryan_Lanewhy don't we always allow reboot?18:28
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Ryan_Lanezynzel: that worked. thanks18:29
swinchenOk, verbose=True didn't work.  Is there any other method to see why my services are not starting?18:29
zynzelRyan_Lane: and what happen if you reboot instance which is in deleting state?18:29
zynzelor snapshoting?18:29
zynzelor rescue? ;)18:29
zynzel(rescue works, but it should not)18:29
Ryan_Lanemaybe we should have a —force option, then?18:30
Ryan_Lanefor situations like this18:30
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vachoni know horizon gives you a force reboot18:30
zynzelRyan_Lane: if yours instance dont reboot properly18:30
zynzelyou have problem with openstack infrastructure not vm18:30
Ryan_Lanethere's a hard reboot option, but it isn't the same18:30
vachonnot sure how different it is, but thats is why I suggested it18:30
zynzelso what changes if you use --force? ;)18:30
Ryan_Lanezynzel: yes. that was indeed the issue18:30
zynzelRyan_Lane: in that case, cloud operator should fix problem18:31
zynzelso --force flag for user dont change anything18:31
* Ryan_Lane is the cloud operator and did fix it18:31
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Ryan_Lanethis is in testing, thankfully18:31
zynzelor simply can mess with db18:31
Ryan_LaneI just want to avoid database hacking in production if this happens18:31
Ryan_Laneit's really operator unfriendly18:31
zynzelRyan_Lane: if you plan to use openstack, try to get used to db hacking ;)18:32
zynzeldb hacking, python hacking, everything hacking ;)18:32
Ryan_Lanethat's not a reasonable option18:32
zynzelRyan_Lane: openstack is very young project, so not everything works out of the box18:32
Ryan_Laneif something requires database hacking, it's broken18:33
zynzelif you want new future, simply write patch18:33
zynzeland commit it to official repo.18:33
Ryan_Lanezynzel: I've been pushing to openstack since bexar ;)18:33
zynzelRyan_Lane: great!18:33
Ryan_LaneI know all of this. I'm just saying it's not really acceptable18:33
vachonwhen essex was minted as "production suited" Ryan_Lane is perfectly correct18:34
Ryan_Laneyoung or not, instances shouldn't get into an unrecoverable state that requires hacking the database18:34
zynzelRyan_Lane: ok, on other side.18:34
vachondiablo and below i would be with zynzel18:34
zynzelwhat happen when vm stuck?18:34
zynzelwhat do you do?18:34
zynzeland really you do this things on production?18:34
zynzelREALY?! ;)18:34
Ryan_LaneI'm not sure what you mean18:35
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zynzelRyan_Lane: why yours instance stuck in reboot?18:35
Ryan_Lanebecause of a temporary misconfiguration18:35
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Ryan_Lanewhich can happen in production just like testing18:36
zynzelRyan_Lane: so what do you thing, 'temporary misconfiguration' is possible on production?18:36
vishyRyan_Lane: yes we have a fix in trunk which gives an (admin) api command to reset state18:36
zynzelon production things like that, dont happen :)18:36
Ryan_Lanevishy: ah. great.18:36
vishynova reset-state uuid18:36
vishyor nova reset-state --active uuid18:36
Ryan_Lanezynzel: which fantasy world are you in? shit goes wrong in production all the time :)18:37
zynzelRyan_Lane: i only says, that openstack is ok18:37
vishyRyan_Lane: and it happens much less often in folsom :)18:37
zynzelbut if you 'broke' some elemnts18:37
Ryan_Lanevishy: sweet18:37
zynzelyours vm stuck in strange state18:37
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* vishy has never seen anything go wrong in production. Ever.18:37
* dspano lives on fantasy island.18:37
vachonvishy: you should take your act on the road18:37
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zynzelRyan_Lane: there are a few types of fail.18:38
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sdaguevishy: is that because you wear very dark glasses? :)18:38
zynzelfail in code - ok, in production? great we cant test every line18:38
ev0ldavecrazed:  i dont, i have a ptr zone and A record created18:38
zynzelfail in hardware - ok, we cant prevent it18:38
zynzelbut fail in configuration?18:38
zynzelyou can simply test it in testbed18:38
Ryan_Lanezynzel: operator error should be assumed18:38
zynzelRyan_Lane: change operator ;)18:38
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Ryan_Lanezynzel: my only point is that if something fails, there should be a way to fix it that doesn't involve database hacking18:39
zynzelif you dont know what 'that option' do, simply18:39
zynzelDONT CHANGE IT :)18:39
vachonconfig mgmt helps prevent some of that18:39
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vachonbut it will never stop it18:39
Ryan_Lanezynzel: it was a failure in configuration management and a reboot of the hardware18:39
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Ryan_Lanethat happens. often18:39
zynzelRyan_Lane: but db hacking is simple as hell, and writing 'script to repair all fails' is imposible ;)18:39
zynzelin my opinion18:40
Ryan_Lanezynzel: database hacking is easy for the developers. if we want normal people to use the software, we can't assume they'll be developers.18:40
zynzelRyan_Lane: normal people dont use openstack software.18:40
zynzelyou have sysadmin, netadmins, developers18:40
zynzelnot normal people :)18:40
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Ryan_Lanenot all sysadmins and netadmins are developers18:41
ev0ldavewe are normal people too :*(18:41
zynzelRyan_Lane: yeah, but sysadmin which have problem with update db18:41
zynzelis not a sysadmin...18:41
vachonnormal people use Azure Cloud!18:41
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zynzelvachon: yeah!18:41
jeremybdoes your island have drinks w/ umbrellas?18:41
ehdezwhat's going on stackers?18:42
vachongetting our arses kicked like normal18:42
Ryan_Lanezynzel: well, I didn't have a problem with updating the database. I successfully changed the state of task_state, but I didn't know that two different columns needed to be updated.18:42
crazedev0ldave: yeah the A record gets created, but for some reason instances get added back to pending, i dunno i just hacked in a check before adding the record18:42
Ryan_LaneI'm not familiar with that code path. one of you guys needed to tell me how to do it. all that and I *am* a developer, with fairly decent knowledge of the code base ;)18:43
zynzelRyan_Lane: this wasnt personal18:43
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zynzelonly my opinion, openstack devs should concentrate on bug fixing, implementing new futures18:43
Ryan_Lanezynzel: I know, I'm making a point. if a developer needs to ask for help, a non developer likely has no chance on their own18:43
Ryan_Laneand this channel isn't always this responsive18:43
zynzeland not writing 'idiot proof' software18:43
zynzel(and this is also not personal)18:43
Ryan_Laneit's not a point of idiot proofing something.18:44
Ryan_Lanesoftware should fail gracefully18:44
vachonzynzel: idiot proofing and catching problems are two different items18:44
Ryan_Laneif you need to hack internals to fix something, then it's a problem18:44
vachons/catch/handling (problems|execptions)/18:44
zynzelRyan_Lane: vachon but openstack handle problem :)18:45
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zynzelits says you you cant reboot instance which is rebooting18:45
Ryan_Lanein this case an instance reboot ended up with a stacktrace in nova-compute, which kept the instance in a reboot state18:45
vachonexactly, thats not a catch18:45
vachonthats a fail18:45
Ryan_LaneI disagree. openstack didn't have a mechanism to handle the problem18:45
zynzelif you know what you are doing you can update db, or delete instance, or do what you want18:45
Ryan_Laneyou shouldn't *need* to know how to fix the database18:45
vachona db update is NOT an answer18:45
vachonits a hammer18:46
crazedthe lamen would just leave the instance there and not know what to do18:46
vachonmy junior guys would as well18:46
vachonthey arent lamen18:46
zynzelwe have different opinion on that as i see ;)18:46
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vachonzynzel: if openstack is to ever take on aws or vmware18:47
vachonyou cant be going into the db to alter columns18:47
vachonthere is a reason esx service console is now dead18:47
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openstackerhello all18:47
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openstackersorry if this is a basic question, but I was wondering what the best way to set the instance quota is18:48
vachonyou dont need a hammer to handle a problem each time18:48
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Ryan_Lanevachon: indeed.18:48
Ryan_Lanebasic failures should be recoverable18:48
zynzelopenstacker: nova-manage project quota on essex18:48
openstackerzynzel: I have tried that18:48
ev0ldaveopenstacker:  in nova.conf18:48
zynzelopenstacker: and?18:48
openstackerzynzel: does not seem to be honored18:49
openstackerzynzel: using puppet to spin up the nodes18:49
openstackerzynzel: that uses the ec2 creds18:49
zynzelopenstacker: paste output from nova-manage18:49
zynzelRyan_Lane: baisc yes, but dont know what you change in configuration so compute node crash18:49
zynzelmaybe you changeg hypervisor, and this is not 'basic failure'18:50
Ryan_Lanezynzel: eh? compute node didn't crash. this is in testing. I rebooted the hardware, and the configuration management hadn't set the mount point in the fstab18:50
Ryan_LaneI did a reboot, it didn't find the instance's disk18:51
Ryan_LaneI mounted the storage, then tried to reboot18:51
ev0ldaveiscsi mount ryan_lane?18:51
zynzelRyan_Lane: 'crash' as a nova-compute trace in logs.18:51
zynzelopenstacker: try to use project_id not project_name18:51
Ryan_Lanezynzel: in diablo nova-compute stacktraces were often18:51
Ryan_Laneev0ldave: nah, just a normal disk mount18:51
Ryan_Laneconfig management was screwed up18:52
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Ryan_Laneeither way, it's something that could be missed, then you go to reboot all instances after hardware comes up, and now all your instances are stuck in the rebooting state18:52
zynzelRyan_Lane: i think compute 'crash' because, instance was not running18:52
zynzelim right?18:53
zynzel(and try to reboot instance which is not running)18:53
Ryan_Lanezynzel: no. instance disk couldn't be found18:53
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Ryan_Lanebecause it wasn't there. because the /var/lib/nova/instances mount point wasn't there18:53
zynzelRyan_Lane: ok, so what should happen in your opinion?18:53
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Ryan_Lanethe reboot failure is fine18:53
Ryan_Lanea way to force the reboot is ideal. this is fixed in trunk, thankfully18:54
ev0ldavehaha, so what's the problem?18:54
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jeremyb1) make sure nothing's still in the middle of reboot 2) fix the mount 3) do reboots again18:54
zynzelRyan_Lane: but this is bad :) imho instance should change state to error18:54
ev0ldaveit's fixed ;)18:54
jeremyball without touching the DB18:54
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zynzel(we dont have instance disk)18:54
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Ryan_Lanejeremy: exactly18:55
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Ryan_Laneev0ldave: it's a current issue in essex.18:55
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openstackerzynzel: sweet duh, that did it18:56
zynzelok, you have right, but we should patch basic problem18:56
zynzeland 'cosmetic changes' for operators should be commited at the end of release.18:56
openstackerzynzel: is there any syntax that modifies the default quota?18:56
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Ryan_LaneI don't think it's a cosmetic thing.18:56
jeremybzynzel: why the end?18:56
jeremyband it's not cosmetic18:57
zynzelopenstacker: probably ony in configuration file18:57
zynzeljeremyb: there are many 'critical' problem18:57
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zynzeland problem with instance in wrong state, isnt critical18:57
Ryan_Laneinstance in a wrong state that's unrecoverable is critical18:58
jeremybzynzel: and if someone submits a patch you're going to delay taking because more critical stuff is still waiting?18:58
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zynzeljeremyb: no, if someone write that patch. great to him and push it to oficial branch18:58
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zynzelbut if we have critical problem, and any developer dont work on it18:59
jeremybzynzel: so what does end of release mean then?18:59
zynzelopenstack have problem.18:59
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zynzeljeremyb: priorities, sometimes i have impression that patched are simple bugs19:01
zynzelcosmetic changes19:01
zynzeland critical problems waits.19:01
jeremybthat's fine19:01
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jeremybnot every contributor is going to be able to tackle every critical issue19:01
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jeremybwe shouldn't turn away contributions (or people looking for stuff to do) just because they can't handle the most complicated stuff19:02
zynzeli dont want to move back anybody19:02
jeremybi don't know what that sentence means19:02
zynzelgreat that they want to 'work for free'19:03
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jeremybi didn't say anything about work for free19:03
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zynzeljeremyb: sorry for my english.19:03
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zynzeljeremyb: this is only quoation, i thing working for community is very valuable19:04
jeremybsomeone's interested and they show up and want to help the project. what can you give them to do?19:04
jeremybthey could be paid or not, doesn't matter19:04
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jeremybanyway, in this case it's a bug and it's not cosmetic and not an enhancement. it's (to quote ryan) "unacceptable" as is19:05
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zynzelok, 1 example19:06
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jeremybit can go on a list and be prioritized relative to other things. but it shouldn't be done at the very end. then you can't get beta testers on it19:06
zynzelgive me a sec for search launchpad19:06
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Ryan_Lanehm. in the ec2 api, when describing instances, it would return the region and zone an instance was in19:07
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Ryan_Laneis there any way to get that info via the nova api?19:07
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Ryan_LaneI guess region is handled by the endpoints19:08
Ryan_Lanezone, though, isn't19:08
Ryan_Lanealso, how do I get a list of zones?19:08
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zynzeljeremyb: problem with finding this bug.19:12
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zynzelbut if you can talk to me tomorrow i can paste you a link19:12
jeremybzynzel: just say my name...19:13
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zynzeljeremyb: great19:13
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swinchencould any of the settings in the database prevent nova-* from starting?   It seems like it must be entirely configuration file related.  If I could just get some sort of debugging information I could probably fix it.19:15
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zynzelswinchen: from starting no19:16
zynzelbut you can disable service19:16
phschwartzI am following the centos 6.2 install guide for glance and I am running into an issue.19:16
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phschwartzglance-registry fails to start and doesn't log. How can I figure out what is going wrong.19:17
Ryan_Lanehm. this implies that the nova command should have access to zone info:
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Ryan_Lanemy essex version of the nova command doesn't have that19:18
swinchenzynzel: I am trying to start the service, but I don't get anything in the log files and the service does not start.  I have verbose=True in my nova.conf19:18
zynzelRyan_Lane: zone are deleted from essex19:18
zynzelin next release you have 'ceils'19:18
Ryan_Laneavalability zones are deleted?19:18
Ryan_Laneah. this was the poorly named "zones" feature19:19
zynzelswinchen: try to start service 'by hand'19:19
Ryan_Laneavailability zones still exist, though, correct?19:19
zynzelRyan_Lane: in essex, you should patch openstack to avilability zones works19:19
zynzelfor instance there work19:19
zynzelbut not for volumes19:19
* Ryan_Lane groans19:20
swinchenzynzel: like "service nova-api start"?  That is what I am doing.19:20
Ryan_Lanethe api has no way of listing them, either19:20
zynzelswinchen: no19:20
zynzelswinchen: cat /etc/init/nova-compute.conf19:20
zynzellast line is smth like su -c 'nova-compute --flagfile /etc/nova/nova.conf' nova19:20
Ryan_Lanemaybe I should just go with regions, rather than availability zones19:20
zynzeland try to execute 'su' command19:20
Ryan_Lanethat's like killing a fly with a sledgehammer, though :(19:21
jeremybRyan_Lane: pmtpa, eqiad and?19:21
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swinchenzynzel: 2012-08-02 15:21:10 CRITICAL nova [-] Unknown connection type "None"19:21
zynzelswinchen: paste full log19:21
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jeremybRyan_Lane: maybe a zone with prod vlan and a zone with labs?19:21
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Ryan_Lanejeremy: well, I was thinking of making more zones in each datacenter19:21
jeremybRyan_Lane: just for redundancy?19:22
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Ryan_Laneprivate data access19:22
swinchenzynzel: that is the complete log.  nova-compute.log is empty19:22
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jeremybok, so essentially the same as prod vlan / labs vlan idea19:22
jeremybbut maybe not actual prod network19:22
jeremybseparate privacy policy?19:23
Ryan_Lanerequired nda19:23
zynzelswinchen: you have installed nova-compute-kvm19:23
Ryan_LaneI also wanted to split databases in containers away into another zone19:23
zynzelor other hypervisor package?19:23
Ryan_LaneI can do that with the scheduler and scheduler hints now, though, right?19:23
swinchenzynzel: I did a nova-computer --verbose --flagfile /etc/nova/nova.conf and got this:
jeremybRyan_Lane: how does that work? i thought databases would just be not part of openstack at all19:24
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swinchenzynzel: yes19:24
Ryan_Lanejeremy: lets discuss that stuff in the labs channel :)19:24
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zynzelswinchen: which?19:24
jeremybRyan_Lane: it was relevant for a while19:25
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zynzelcat /etc/nova/nova-compute.conf19:25
swinchenzynzel: nova-compute-kvm (sorry, didn't see your other message)19:25
swinchenzynzel: --libvirt_type=kvm19:25
zynzelswinchen: try to set connection_type=libvirt19:26
phschwartzThe centos 6 install guide shows the following pipeline for glance-registry: pipeline = authtoken auth-context context registryapp  But this causes glance-registery to fail to start. With out it glance works if you pass user creds, but it will not accept a token.19:26
phschwartzAny ideas?19:26
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swinchenzynzel: that is what it is set to19:27
zynzelphschwartz: check if you have installed python-keystone19:27
zynzelswinchen: check --flagfile /etc/nova/nova.conf /etc/nova/nova-compute.conf19:28
phschwartzzynzel: yes, installed and latest19:28
zynzelor maybe --flagfile /etc/nova/nova.conf --flagfile /etc/nova/nova-compute.conf19:28
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zynzelphschwartz: dont have access to our infrastructure from home19:29
phschwartzThis is the doc I have been following
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zynzelif you can wait, please msg me tomorrow and i will paste you working pipeline19:29
phschwartzzynzel: I can do that if no one else knows.19:30
swinchenzynzel: either order and I get the same error message19:30
zynzelswinchen: ls -l /etc/nova19:30
zynzells -la /etc/nova even19:30
swinchenzynzel: api-paste.ini nova-compute.conf nova.conf policy.json19:31
zynzelswinchen: ls -la19:31
swinchenomg, is this a permissions problem.19:33
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zynzelswinchen: check command from /etc/init/nova-compute.conf as user nova19:34
zynzeland not root19:34
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zynzel'nova' at the end of 'su'19:34
swinchenzynzel: that ... didn't error, but it also didn't start nova-compute19:35
swinchenno output at all19:35
swinchensu -c 'nova-compute --verbose --flagfile /etc/nova/nova-compute.conf /etc/nova/nova.conf' nova19:35
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zynzelswinchen: su -c "nova-compute --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova.conf --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova-compute.conf" nova19:37
swinchenzynzel: nothing.19:38
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zynzelswinchen: nothing nothing? ;)19:39
zynzeland in logs also nothing nothing?19:39
swinchenzynzel: nothing nothing :( logs empty, no messages....19:40
swinchenno nova service running19:40
zynzelswinchen: su -c "strace nova-compute --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova.conf --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova-compute.conf" nova19:40
swinchenzynzel: nothing nothing again.19:42
zynzelthis is imposible.19:42
zynzelstrace producte BAZYLION of logs :)19:43
swinchenI know.  I can't imagine what is going on.19:43
swinchenwas I looking for the wrong log?  I looked at nova-compute.log19:43
swinchenzynzel: running it as root produces TONS of logs19:44
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swinchenzynzel: I could paste it if you like.19:51
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zynzelbut running from root dont give anything19:54
zynzelwhy running from nova user dont produce any log?19:54
swinchenmaybe because several of the config files are owned by root...  and it runs into permission problems?  I don't know.19:55
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mitchellbroomei'm running into an issue with the ec2 api where I have to have a user in the admin role in keystone to create instances but if i add them to that role, they see all of the instances in other tenants with a describe_instance19:56
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COneri'm having trouble getting my instances to come up on a second compute node; when i execute sudo nova-manage service list, everything is displayed on bother the controller and the node (both have compute capabilities)19:56
swincheneven this produces nothing: su -c "ls /" nova19:56
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COnerso as i do 'nova boot...' images successfully startup on the controller, but they stay in an error state when the service attempts to deploy them to node19:57
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swinchenzynzel: promise you won't kill me?20:00
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swinchen[DEFUALT] != [DEFAULT]20:01
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phschwartzdarn, just realized all the centos 6.x docs are forgetting to mention rabbit install and configure20:08
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zynzelswinchen: -.-' ;)20:08
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swinchenzynzel: I can't thank you enough for your help though.   I was going crazy, and your help kept me looking at it.20:10
phschwartzI am getting this error: how do I add a volume group?20:12
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zynzelswinchen: no problem20:13
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GiBaim installing a fresh openstack20:13
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noob_any good examples out there for setting up a multi compute node with openvswitch?20:16
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COneri'm having trouble getting images to startup on a second compute node; they just stay in an error state, but nova-manage service list shows the compute nodes20:20
noob_anything in the nova-compute logs?20:21
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COnerjust the standard info/audit messages20:24
COneri think that it could be either network setup (but probably not) or ssh setup (probably) -> i'm using fedora17 and the tutorial that i am using is unclear about how to distribute the keys for nova20:24
noob_yeah a lot of things are kinda vague still20:25
noob_keystone is the key distribution service i believe20:25
GiBasorry to open a new thread20:25
GiBaim about to create the endpoints20:25
GiBaand i was wondering if the urls are ok20:25
GiBaim setting a two computers setup20:25
GiBawith two nics each20:26
GiBaas the doc says20:26
noob_dump those in and we'll take a look20:26
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GiBathe first ip is
GiBaof the public20:26
COnernoob_ : which, just the nova-compute log from both machine?20:26
GiBaand the one for sharing with the node is
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GiBais a 192.168*20:26
GiBaso, i was wondering20:27
noob_COner: yeah lets see the nova-compute and the nova-network log20:27
GiBaif the endpoints shouldnt use the 192.* addresses instead of the ones on the docs20:27
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noob_GIBa: try it and see what happens.  can't hurt, you can always change them20:28
UICTamaleWhat generally causes the script to throw these errors?  -  No handlers could be found for logger "keystoneclient.client" - and -  Unable to authorize user20:29
noob_UICTamale: what is that script trying to connect to?20:29
GiBawell, thats the question20:31
GiBait should work both ways20:31
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GiBacuase both machines have 2 nics one in each network20:31
noob_GiBA: does each nic hold one of those ip spaces?20:31
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GiBathe question is more "theorical"20:31
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ev0ldavegiba, i would use the 10.* as endpoints and environment comms and leave the second interface with no ip and setup the bridge on that for instances20:32
UICTamalenoob_: I'm on step three here20:32
UICTamalelooks like it's trying to connect to the local keystone instance20:32
UICTamalewhich is running20:32
noob_UICTamale: double check the passwords are ok?20:32
ev0ldavehastexo walk through isn't too great for first time setup.  check out uksysadmin on github20:33
UICTamalethat's the password I set in keystone's config, right?  not mysql?20:33
GiBaim trying to avoid the hastexo tuto20:33
GiBaim seting all by hand20:33
UICTamaleI wish I had heard that before I started20:33
UICTamalethe docs and search engines point here20:33
GiBathe second nic brdged with no ip connecting one node to each other ?20:33
ev0ldaveif you just want something to play with uksysadmin will have you up and running in about 10 min20:33
GiBaso vms on the first nova can se vms on the second nova20:33
UICTamalenah, it's not for just playing with20:33
GiBais that the idea?20:33
UICTamalethis will be our dev environment20:34
ev0ldaveyou can tweak it after that20:34
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COnernoob_ :
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UICTamaleah the whole install is scripted20:37
UICTamaleI'm not sure I want that level of automation20:37
ev0ldavewell, you can go through the script and tweak it, but you will understand the setup/install process after a bit20:37
GiBaim still wondering about those urls ...20:37
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UICTamaleyup, good call20:37
UICTamaleI'm basically following a script now too20:38
ev0ldavei want the automation for keystone setup which is the script you were referring to anyway20:38
UICTamaleexcept the isn't working :P20:38
UICTamalelol exactly20:38
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ev0ldavebut the script, you can modify the nova.conf configuration there which is a good portion of running this beast20:38
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UICTamalewould you recommend I wipe things if I try this script?20:39
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UICTamaleor should it be able to pick up where I left off?20:40
dubsquaredgetting greedy :P   — you can try it and if it blows up, well, wipe and restart :)20:40
ev0ldaveat least wipe the mysql database20:40
ev0ldaveare you installing the database on the controller?20:41
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UICTamaleyeah, unless that's a bad idea20:41
UICTamaleI was hoping it'd be a little more ganeti, which isn't really centralized20:43
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UICTamalei hate it when I ctrl-w in the wrong window20:44
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ev0ldavejust curious20:57
swinchenis anyone familiar with this when adding an image to glance:  ServiceUnavailable: The request returned 503 Service Unavilable. This generally occurs on service overload or other transient outage.20:57
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Ryan_Laneso, the docs don't really go much into having more than one region. is each region basically treated like a full stack, with database and all?20:58
Ryan_Laneand then you register each region with keystone as endpoints?20:59
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ev0ldaveryan_lane:  sorry, no idea, i've only used one in mine21:21
luis_hi folks, anybody knows how to get rid of this error when debugging nova-api from eclipse21:22
luis_"error: cannot switch to a different thread"21:22
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ev0ldavetrying to configure dhcp_domain, is there anything to watch out for here?  when i set nova freaks out and i can not ping instances anymore21:33
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ev0ldavei take that back, it just doesn't do anything, the hostnames still get configured as .novalocal21:35
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edude03Good day everyone, I have a small issue with openstack essex, I'm playing with it on a dedicated server I'm renting, it only has 1 NIC so I set the VMs interface to eth0:1, however when I created my first VM it seems to disconnect my server from the net21:39
edude03Doesn't reply to ping or anything but I doubt its off, haven't tried rebooting it yet, but I can21:40
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ev0ldaveas far as i know, you can't bridge virtual interfaces unless you are running a virtual switch21:44
trygvisedude03: you shouldn't have to do that, you can run openstack on a single interface21:45
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edude03OK, is there anything special I need to do to use 1 nic?21:46
trygvisit is fairly well documented21:47
ev0ldavefirst example on that page21:47
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edude03OK, let me kick off a rebuild and I'll give that a shot, out of curiosity though, there isn't an easier way to install openstack other than doing the commands 1 at a time (or using a script) IE a preconfigured ISO?21:49
trygvisthere are complete scripts (ask ev0ldave) and iso's21:50
ev0ldavecloudstack is a preconfigured ISO21:50
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ev0ldaveuses nova, but isn't openstack21:51
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edude03Oh OK, I was just going to say that :P21:54
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edude03Cloudstack is Citrix's fork of Openstack IIRC21:55
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dubsquaredcloudstack != openstack22:00
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zykes-edude03: no, cloudstack is a opensource project from the company citrix bought earlier (
zykes-it's java based and more Amazon ish and not like openstack which is a ecosystem of different projects22:02
edude03Ah OK22:03
ev0ldaveanybody have luck using dhcp_domain to change fqdn in instances on build?22:03
contextisnt openstack api comopatible with amazon ?22:03
edude03I sort of want to run Cloudstack for the EC2 compatibility though but cloud foundry works with openstack anyway22:03
ev0ldavethey are all ec2 compatible22:04
ev0ldaveeucalyptus, cloudstack and yes, openstack22:04
ev0ldaveand opennova22:04
contextgotcha. i have NexentaStor running at home, getting 2x openstack servers setup tonight after i get VLANing running on router22:05
zykes-context: more or the less yeah22:05
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contextsetting up openstack manually i cant use the same interface for service/storage and public traffic can i ?22:06
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zykes-context: yes you can22:07
contextoh. that makes my life easier. the stackops distro required two interfaces22:07
contextbut i went ahead and install debian 7 beta22:07
zykes-context: use ubuntu 12.0422:08
zykes-instead :)22:08
zykes-ubuntu is very openstack friendly22:08
zykes-or fedora22:08
contextbut debian 7 has all of openstack in apt already22:08
trygvisit works very fine on debian22:08
contextand rpm can go to hell22:08
zykes-trygvis: ok :)22:08
zykes-you can argue that all you want, they are still a big force to be reckoned with ;)22:09
trygviscontext: I'm installing a similar setup now22:09
zykes-trygvis: Folsom ?22:09
contextthen i get to learn chef22:09
contextwell, learn chef more22:09
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contextmeh, im use to chef already using it on EngineYard22:10
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ev0ldavealright, this is getting ridiculous. changed the default value for dhcp_domain in nova/network/ and still default domain on instance boot is novalocal22:20
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contextev0ldave: restart nova ?22:26
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ev0ldaveyeah, compute, network and api22:28
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TommyCIs there a stable, non-development source code release version of OpenStack for distributions that are not debian(-based) or RedHat(-based)?22:52
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Ryan_LaneTommyC: you can always download from git22:52
Ryan_Lanethere are branches (and likely tags) for each release22:53
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TommyCRyan_Lane: These would be considered stable (since they're for each release), correct?22:53
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Ryan_Laneessex is the current stable22:54
Ryan_Laneit's likely what you should use22:54
TommyCRyan_Lane: Thank you very much.22:54
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Ryan_Laneyou're welcome22:54
TommyCI wish I could express how much I really mean that, but text over the internet isn't very good for its purposes. ^^22:54
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jeremybTommyC: maybe '<3' ?22:59
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Disconnecti'm guessing there is no simple way to create public ips on different networks on a per-instance basis. is that right? gotta get a fileserver pointed to a bunch of networks, but I can't let all the vms (or any future vms) see the other networks23:36
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ev0ldaveDisconnect: quantum23:37
Disconnectcrap. i've got bigger problems. "reboot" evidently involved throwing out my entire setup and starting with a blank image. thats not good :/23:37
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Disconnectok maybe not, maybe its just the vm being brain damaged.23:38
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Disconnectyah it failed to save its config. not openstack's fault. just another adventure though.23:39
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