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fifa | hello | 01:57 |
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fifa | neutron-lbaas-agent is not starting....... | 01:58 |
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fifa | 2013-04-14 15:54:14.212 9600 ERROR neutron.common.legacy [-] Skipping unknown group key: firewall_driver 2013-04-14 15:54:14.212 9600 CRITICAL neutron [-] 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'rpartition' | 01:59 |
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Sam-I-Am | i havent used lbaas | 01:59 |
fifa | damn | 02:00 |
Sam-I-Am | anything come up in searches? | 02:00 |
fifa | i am searching | 02:00 |
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Akshik | /msg NickServ identify fastrack | 05:27 |
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Shayan | hello | 09:09 |
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keks__ | Hi. Any neutron expert on-line ? | 09:22 |
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keks__ | I've got a problem with slow network speed betwen Cloud Instance and external hosts (with br-ex if gro off) | 09:23 |
keks__ | Any one can help me ? | 09:23 |
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markusleb | Hi, sorry for possibly asking a newbie question: I am trying to look for someone who might help me debug a trusted_filter issue. where should I ask? Thx. | 09:53 |
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uffe_ | Hi, I'm having a hard time to decide whitch network model is best for a public cloud, any thoughts? | 11:36 |
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keks__ | Anybody familiar with openstack networking ? | 12:31 |
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deepakcs | Hi all, In devstack, when i created a nova instance using --flavour 1, the instance was created, but the consoel shows it as stuck @ "Booting from ROM.." and it doesn't boot into the cirros ( I had selected cirros-0.3.1-x86_64-uec) | 13:01 |
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Sam-I-Am | deepakcs: use the qcow image | 13:09 |
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deepakcs | Sam-I-Am, all the images i see under glance image-lsit are 'raw' only.. is it known that they don't work ? | 13:11 |
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Sam-I-Am | where did these images come from? | 13:13 |
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Mstaaravin | good morning | 13:20 |
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Mstaaravin | can i ask for a stupid question...? | 13:21 |
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deepakcs | Sam-I-Am, from glance image-list | 13:21 |
deepakcs | Sam-I-Am, i am on a devstack all-in-one setup | 13:21 |
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Sam-I-Am | deepakcs: that list should have one that works | 13:22 |
Sam-I-Am | deepakcs: i havent used devstack in a long time | 13:22 |
Sam-I-Am | 'bare' is probably most likely | 13:22 |
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keks__ | Any one can help me with my problem ? - https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/25306/problem-with-network-speed-between-vm-and-br-ex/ | 13:22 |
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deepakcs | Sam-I-Am, thats what i was thinkign too.. but looks liek they dont :( | 13:24 |
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tomixxx5 | hi, when i execute "sudo heatmystack --template-url=https://raw.github.com/openstack/heat-templates/master/cfn/F17/WordPress_Single_Instance.template --parameters="InstanceType=m1.small;DBUsername=admin;DBPassword=admin;KeyName=mykey;LinuxDistribution=F17" i get the error: "ERROR: The Image (F17-x86_64-cfntools) could not be found." | 13:24 |
tomixxx5 | -heatmystack, +heat mystack | 13:25 |
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larsks | tomixxx5: Do you have an image named "F17-x86_64-cfntools" available in glance? If not, you'll need to put one there. | 13:33 |
tomixxx5 | larsks: have already found this: http://openstack.redhat.com/Deploy_an_application_with_Heat | 13:33 |
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tomixxx5 | can i delete a heat stack? | 13:48 |
tomixxx5 | my first stack-create failed because i have not waited the downloading image to become "active" | 13:48 |
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larsks | tomixxx5: "heat stack-delete" should work. | 13:48 |
tomixxx5 | larsks: thx | 13:49 |
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tomixxx5 | interesting, stack-create caused openstack to build a second instance | 13:52 |
tomixxx5 | automatically | 13:52 |
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tomixxx5 | nice | 13:53 |
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keks__ | Noone can help me with neutron br-ex performance problems ? | 14:16 |
keks__ | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/25306/problem-with-network-speed-between-vm-and-br-ex/ | 14:16 |
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keks__ | Every similiar topic said to turn off gro on br-ex phyisacl interface, but it didn't solve the problem | 14:19 |
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jbustos | does dmesg tell you anything interesting ? | 14:21 |
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jbustos | keks I had a similar issue and I had to dissable LRO | 14:23 |
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tomixxx5 | do i have to install the telemetry agent on each compute node? http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/ceilometer-install-nova.html | 14:24 |
tomixxx5 | or can i exclusevily install the agent on the controller node? | 14:24 |
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keks__ | jbustos: but i have it disabled :( | 14:28 |
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keks__ | it's awkward that with rx and tx checksumming enabled i've got 100-300 Kbits/s, with disabled it is up to 20Mbit/s | 14:29 |
keks__ | but it is very far from 700-900 Mbit/s everybody gets from it | 14:29 |
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ram5391 | Hi, I just deployed a new openstack installation via juju. I'm having trouble starting keystone due to a port conflict on the machine. Is the keystone service that juju deploys somehow seperate from 'service keystone start'? | 14:48 |
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robertbuhren | hi, is there a simple example howto access the ec2 api of nova with the e2c-api tools? | 14:50 |
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keks__ | can someone send me ethtool --offload for eth0 and br-ex interfaces ? | 14:52 |
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keks__ | -offload-show | 14:53 |
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tomixxx5 | hi, i have decided that i need neutron networking service but i have no dedicated network node. do i need this node? | 15:05 |
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Sam-I-Am | you dont need a dedicated a network node, but it helps with understanding traffic flow and troubleshooting | 15:07 |
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tomixxx5 | kk, so let assume the controller node is also the "dedicated network node". i have only 2 NICs, do i really need 3 NICs? | 15:07 |
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Sam-I-Am | you can do everything on one nic if you want, but it just becomes more difficult to configure and troubleshoot | 15:09 |
tomixxx5 | follow up question: on the controller, which installation steps do i need: "Install networking support on a dedicated controller node" and/or "Install Networking services on a dedicated network node" ? http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/neutron-install-network-node.html | 15:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | the install guide does not apply to combined controller-network nodes | 15:11 |
Sam-I-Am | you'll need to interpolate the instructions | 15:11 |
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tomixxx5 | puh, ok, the problem is i need floating IPs in order to access my deployed applications from outside net. do i need neutron for this or is nova-network sufficient? | 15:14 |
Sam-I-Am | either should work | 15:15 |
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tomixxx5 | that's good | 15:16 |
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tomixxx5 | because everytime when i look at the neutron installation guide i see a lot of upcoming problems | 15:16 |
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Sam-I-Am | neutron is the way things are going | 15:20 |
Sam-I-Am | but its not for everyone yet | 15:20 |
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keks__ | Sam-I-Am maybe you cna help me | 15:22 |
keks__ | with networking | 15:22 |
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keks__ | i've disabled GRO on eth0 from br-ex, and the network speed from outside network to VM is very slow :( | 15:23 |
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keks__ | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/25306/problem-with-network-speed-between-vm-and-br-ex/ | 15:23 |
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Sam-I-Am | keks__: does this only affect traffic to/from the internet or other things within your local network, but outside of br-ex? | 15:24 |
keks__ | this affect only traffic to the network outside br-ex | 15:24 |
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keks__ | wait | 15:25 |
keks__ | it affects any network outside br-ex | 15:25 |
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Sam-I-Am | what i'm getting at is a potential mtu/mss problem | 15:25 |
keks__ | apt-get update need about 5-10 minutes to finish | 15:25 |
keks__ | i'm not using gre tunnels but VLAN's | 15:25 |
Sam-I-Am | can you get tcpdump or wireshark working? | 15:25 |
keks__ | yes i've got traffic dump | 15:25 |
Sam-I-Am | any retrans, drops, or window resizing? | 15:26 |
keks__ | TCP Dup Ack | 15:26 |
keks__ | and TCP fast retransmission | 15:26 |
keks__ | and out of order errors | 15:26 |
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keks__ | also "TCP ACKed unseen segment" | 15:26 |
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keks__ | i tried to disable gro every where | 15:27 |
keks__ | at eth0, at br-ex, even at the VM eth0 | 15:27 |
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keks__ | but with no luck :(, before i disables tx checksum and rx check sum i've got transfers i kbit/s | 15:28 |
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keks__ | now i've got transfer from VM to outside br-ex 200 Mbit/s Transmitting, and up to 20 Mb/s receiving | 15:29 |
keks__ | My network node and controller node is on the same physical machine | 15:29 |
keks__ | may it be a problem ? | 15:29 |
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Sam-I-Am | gro isnt always the problem | 15:31 |
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keks__ | Sam-I-Am: is there any manual what offload on the eth0 if should be off and which should be on ? | 15:31 |
Sam-I-Am | keks__: it is dependent on your nic chipset and driver | 15:31 |
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tomixxx5 | i have to create a floating ip pool: has the following guide for grizzly chances to work on havana? http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/associating-public-ip.html | 15:31 |
Sam-I-Am | tomixxx5: there is a havana version of the admin guide | 15:32 |
keks__ | Sam-I-Am: so what would you do to debug this problem if you were me ? | 15:32 |
keks__ | i'm out of ideas :( | 15:32 |
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tomixxx5 | Sam-I-Am: Yes, but in the havana-guide there are no instrucutions on how to create public IPs | 15:33 |
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keks__ | tomixxx5: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/demo_logical_network_config.html | 15:35 |
keks__ | here you've got | 15:35 |
keks__ | it depends on network topology you want to create | 15:35 |
tomixxx5 | keks__: i dont want to use neutron, basically, because i do not have neede hardware | 15:35 |
tomixxx5 | keks__: i want to stay with nova-network | 15:36 |
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keks__ | tomixxx5: but with nova-network you defint ip pool | 15:37 |
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tomixxx5 | sorry, i did not get it | 15:38 |
keks__ | so you should define only external there | 15:38 |
keks__ | you don't have ext and int networks with nova-network | 15:38 |
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keks__ | you have only one network | 15:39 |
keks__ | so you can't associate floating ip because it can't even be there | 15:39 |
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tomixxx5 | keks__: hmm, it's possible, look at this: http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/associating-public-ip.html | 15:40 |
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tomixxx5 | keks__: the question is, if this guide also applys for havana | 15:40 |
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keks__ | tomixxx5: did you applyied public interface ? | 15:43 |
keks__ | in the config | 15:43 |
tomixxx5 | no, not yet, i just wanted to ask you guys if i should try it with havana | 15:43 |
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keks__ | it it worked in grizzly it should work in havana | 15:43 |
Sam-I-Am | tomixxx5: not much with nova changed between grizzly and havana | 15:43 |
keks__ | Sam-I-Am: any idea how to solve my performance problem ? | 15:44 |
tomixxx5 | Sam-I-Am: that's what i wanted to hear :D | 15:44 |
keks__ | im out of ideas :( | 15:44 |
Sam-I-Am | keks__: have you tried checking performance from within the namespace on the network node? | 15:45 |
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keks__ | Sam-I-Am: yes i've got 940Mbit/s | 15:46 |
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keks__ | to outside world | 15:46 |
Sam-I-Am | what sort of mss/mtu values are used there? | 15:46 |
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keks__ | MTU 1500 - VLAN tunneling not GRE | 15:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | whats the cpu load? | 15:48 |
Sam-I-Am | are you swapping tags around? | 15:48 |
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keks__ | Sam-I-Am: i've got tags between two hosts only, nothing more on eth1 | 15:49 |
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keks__ | Sam-I-Am: cpu load is not more than 10-15 % | 15:50 |
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keks__ | for neutron server cpu usage is 1-3 % | 15:50 |
Sam-I-Am | any sort of bonding or other features? | 15:51 |
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keks__ | bond only on other interfaces for ceph | 15:51 |
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keks__ | but them isn;t used for openstack | 15:51 |
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sneezewort | How can I troubleshoot fast network speed writing to a VM but slow speed out? | 15:53 |
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keks__ | Sam-I-Am: sneezewort from where to VM ? from another VM ? or from outside network ? | 15:53 |
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sneezewort | keks__, VM to VM is fast. From anything to any VM is fast. from VM to anything that is not a VM is slow. Does that make sense? | 15:55 |
keks__ | i've got the same problem | 15:56 |
keks__ | sneezewort: did you disabled gro on eth from br-ex? | 15:56 |
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keks__ | sneezewort ethtool --offload ethx gro off | 15:56 |
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sneezewort | keks__, Yes. that did speed up the speed to the VMs. | 15:57 |
keks__ | so you've got the same problem as me | 15:57 |
keks__ | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/25306/problem-with-network-speed-between-vm-and-br-ex/ | 15:57 |
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keks__ | if you did something, write it in my topic for future | 15:57 |
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keks__ | sneezewort: i'm out of ideas, an't solve it from 3 days from now, my project stopped :( | 15:58 |
keks__ | sneezewort: you use VLAN or GRE ? if GRE try lowering MTU to 1400 | 15:59 |
Sam-I-Am | keks__: did you e-mail the openstack list with [neutron] in the subject? | 15:59 |
Sam-I-Am | keks__: or even search the -dev list | 15:59 |
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tomixxx5 | if i execute this "nova-manage floating create --pool=nova --ip_range=68.99.26.170/31" i get: "InvalidInput: Invalid input received: /31 should be specified as single address(es) not in cidr format" | 16:00 |
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keks__ | Sam-I-Am: i didn't but i think that i need to, i'll do this when i get back from work, i'll attach it to my topic at ask | 16:01 |
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keks__ | sneezewort: it you tried some thing to change, can you attach it to my topic at ask.openstack ? | 16:04 |
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keks__ | maybe it could help me or someone else | 16:05 |
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keks__ | Sam-I-Am: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1256289/comments/5 do you think it can be my problem? | 16:07 |
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Birk | Hi. There is a way to list "Instances" filtered by the user that created it? | 16:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | keks__: could be | 16:10 |
Birk | using command line (nova list_ | 16:10 |
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tomixxx5 | ok, i have a created a floating ip pool now, ip-range=172.31.0.224/28 and i have associated a floating ip to a stack-template running on a VM (via dashboard) | 16:22 |
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tomixxx5 | but i cannot ping the VM address, 172.31.0.225 from the controller ndoe | 16:23 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am: Still at it, eh? | 16:27 |
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sneezewort | keks__, Sure, I have your issue bookmarked and will update if I find anything. | 16:29 |
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Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: yep | 16:30 |
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tomixxx5 | ahhh | 16:33 |
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tomixxx5 | do i have to create the nova pool on compute nodes? | 16:33 |
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Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: what are you up to? long time no see | 16:35 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | Yeah been a while. I'm still tearing out the old product. | 16:36 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | The corporate gears grind awfully slowly. | 16:36 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | Been thinking about openstack a lot lately though, so I figured I'd bring my lab back to life. I built a much bigger hardware lab at home. | 16:37 |
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Sam-I-Am | woohoo | 16:37 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | I'm really interested to see what Mirantis is doing these days (do they still call it Fuel?) as the install process for Openstack was always the most daunting part. | 16:37 |
Sam-I-Am | its still fuel | 16:37 |
Sam-I-Am | i think the automated packages are good... but you need to understand how everything works underneath too. | 16:37 |
CaptainTacoSauce | Sure sure. | 16:38 |
CaptainTacoSauce | Honestly I've thought about jumping ship and finding a Fortune 500 in town that just wants to build a private Openstack to cut costs on VMWare. | 16:38 |
Sam-I-Am | its pretty gnarley to troubleshoot | 16:38 |
Sam-I-Am | lol, you can me both | 16:38 |
Sam-I-Am | er, you and me | 16:38 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | Still not sure I'm a service provider kinda guy. :D | 16:39 |
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Sam-I-Am | we should join forces lol | 16:39 |
CaptainTacoSauce | but yeah I guess it is nice to have built a stack from nothing, there are an awful lot of moving parts to get familiar with | 16:39 |
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Sam-I-Am | i think it makes sense to follow the install guide, break stuff, and then when you're familiar enough, install from a package like fuel for production | 16:40 |
CaptainTacoSauce | I'm down, we've already been a troubleshooting team. :D | 16:40 |
Sam-I-Am | by then you'll know how to solve problems | 16:40 |
Sam-I-Am | this is true | 16:40 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | So trying to remember where you were before, just building a PoC to show management? How did that go? | 16:41 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | You're still here, after all :P | 16:41 |
Sam-I-Am | eh, my day job doesnt care about the cloud | 16:41 |
Sam-I-Am | so this all went after hours | 16:41 |
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Sam-I-Am | i primarily work on docs now. currently renovating the install guide for icehouse. | 16:42 |
CaptainTacoSauce | ah okay cool cool | 16:42 |
CaptainTacoSauce | that's not *out* yet, is it? | 16:42 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | I guess the term would be stable branch. | 16:42 |
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Sam-I-Am | eh... its not out yet | 16:44 |
Sam-I-Am | been working with the milestone releases and soon RC1 | 16:45 |
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Sam-I-Am | the goal is having a working install guide in time for release, but thats a chicken and egg problem | 16:45 |
Sam-I-Am | plenty of significant changes still happening... and also ubuntu 14.04 wont be out until icehouse release | 16:46 |
Sam-I-Am | can't test 14.04 until there's packages for it | 16:46 |
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mkollaro | does somebody know how to create and restore a VM snapshot while keeping the same IPs? I don't mind shutting the VM down | 16:57 |
mkollaro | because afaik the current method to restore is to create a snapshot image and boot up a new VM from it, but that won't keep the same IP | 16:57 |
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mkollaro | (I don't have admin access to the openstack instance on which the VMs are running) | 16:57 |
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mkollaro | I just want to get the VM into the same state as it was 10 minutes ago... | 17:00 |
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amad3us | what needs to be on the same subnet? can I put a controller, db, rabbit, neutron on a VM in a different subnet than the nova host? | 17:45 |
amad3us | this is strictly poc | 17:45 |
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amad3us | want to have the VM do everything but be the hypervisor, obviously, and add a couple of physical boxes | 17:45 |
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larsks | amad3us: There are no requirements that everything be on the same subnet. There's is going to be somewhat higher latency for api calls crossing subnets (usually), but not an issue for a PoC environment. | 17:54 |
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amad3us | larsks: thanks... was just gonna try it and see... but that's cool that it should be ok | 17:55 |
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amad3us | need to spend more time with the networking stuff... always trips me up | 17:58 |
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badams | anyone here know anything about heat? | 18:00 |
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Sam-I-Am | badams: it happens in the summer time | 18:04 |
badams | Sam-I-Am: haha i'm intrigued. tell me more about this "summer" | 18:04 |
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Sam-I-Am | lol, are you in the US? | 18:06 |
badams | Sam-I-Am: yeah i am, northeastern. it's just been so long... | 18:06 |
Sam-I-Am | its been bad here too | 18:07 |
badams | summer feels like a myth | 18:07 |
Sam-I-Am | maybe it'll be warm by june? | 18:07 |
Sam-I-Am | and then it'll just be 110 every day | 18:07 |
badams | yeah, you've gotta have a dream | 18:07 |
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badams | 110, jesus. i hope not | 18:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | colorado has two seasons. super cold and super hot. | 18:08 |
Sam-I-Am | maybe a couple of weeks on either side where its nice | 18:08 |
badams | haha thankfully MD is a bit more temperate | 18:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | humid summers and bone-chilling winters there | 18:09 |
Sam-I-Am | around here massive temperature swings are normal | 18:09 |
Sam-I-Am | like... waking up to 25 and the high is 70 | 18:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | then a snowstorm, then hot | 18:09 |
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badams | thats what the last week was like | 18:09 |
Sam-I-Am | you walk out the door prepared for all four seasons | 18:09 |
badams | about 75 on wednesday, now 4 inches of snow at my door | 18:09 |
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badams | just make up your mind weather, damn | 18:10 |
Sam-I-Am | lol | 18:10 |
larsks | badams: back on topic, I use a heat for deploying my openstack test environments, so I've worked with it a bit. | 18:10 |
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badams | oh yeah, i should be working | 18:11 |
* larsks is such a party pooper. | 18:11 | |
badams | haha | 18:11 |
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badams | larsks: im getting an unknown resource type trying to use the OS::Heat::CloudConfig resource | 18:12 |
badams | i believe my versions are up to date | 18:12 |
badams | and ive been using heat fine up to this point | 18:12 |
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badams | just trying to do some hostname configuration | 18:13 |
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larsks | badams: You can use the "resource-type-list" command to get a list of resources your heat engine knows about. There's an excellent chance that the resource is only available in unreleased versions of heat (e.g., install from git if you want it). | 18:13 |
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larsks | Heat has been changing *very* rapidly. | 18:14 |
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badams | larsks: i don't even have the type-list command | 18:15 |
badams | yikes | 18:15 |
larsks | "resource-type-list" | 18:15 |
badams | right yeah | 18:15 |
badams | i dont have that | 18:15 |
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larsks | That was merged in early December. What version of python-heatclient do you have? | 18:16 |
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badams | not sure but i began using heat early last week | 18:16 |
badams | as in straight from scratch | 18:17 |
badams | or rather ubuntu packages | 18:17 |
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badams | here is is: 0.2.4-0ubuntu1~cloud0 | 18:19 |
larsks | It looks like resource-type-list showed up a little after the 0.2.6 release. | 18:19 |
larsks | Let me see if I can figure out about OS::Heat::CloudConfig on the server side. | 18:19 |
badams | blerg. alrighty | 18:19 |
badams | thanks | 18:19 |
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larsks | It looks like that was introduced towards the end of December. Here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63214/ | 18:22 |
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larsks | Possibly not merged until Feb. this year, it looks like. | 18:22 |
larsks | Locally, I run both heat and heatclient from git, rather than relying on packages. | 18:23 |
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badams | hmmm. i might have to look into setting that up | 18:23 |
badams | larsks: thanks | 18:23 |
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Warriv_ | hello guys. Trying to do a HA deployment of Havana and am trying to troubleshoot why nova api calls are taking > 6 seconds to go through. This is a new deployment so the database nearly empty. Requests for all the other APIs go through very fast (< 1 second), but nova is taking longer. My nova.conf http://pastebin.com/kmE7LNWe and nova api log showing 6.8 second API response time http://pastebin.com/k0H3diMp | 19:21 |
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mmmucky | Warriv_: do you see the same delay when accessing nova directly (bypassing HA)? | 19:35 |
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Warriv_ | mmucky: yes, I get the same query times when I bypass the haproxy load balancing and use localhost on the control node | 19:40 |
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amad3us | this page is confusing me : http://openstack.redhat.com/Neutron_with_OVS_and_VLANs | 19:42 |
mmmucky | Warriv_: I haven't seen that problem before. I'd try a quick strace of the nova-api process to see if there is some sort of DNS timeout or similar. | 19:42 |
amad3us | is it making reference to vlans at the top for the private network? like instead of using gre? or is it saying that it will tag for the physical port, which I need to tag for external access | 19:42 |
* amad3us needs to read more docs | 19:43 | |
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mmmucky | amad3us: vlans and GRE tunnels are both ways of implementing virtual networks. | 19:43 |
amad3us | mmmucky: yep, I get that... I need to tag the external network.. I *think* it's talking about doing that | 19:44 |
amad3us | but it throws the network name "inter-vlan" in there, and that is what is confusing me | 19:44 |
amad3us | lol | 19:44 |
Warriv_ | mmmucky: good idea, I'll give that a try | 19:44 |
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amad3us | basically, anything that is bridges is external.... so I guess it makes sense | 19:46 |
amad3us | err, bridged | 19:46 |
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Warriv_ | mmmucky: Hmm, nothing seems to jump out at my in the strace of nova-api. I had a similar thought regarding DNS, but I don't see any evidence for it. However I do think it strange that nova is the only API that seems to be suffering in its performance | 19:50 |
mmmucky | is nova running inside a VM? | 19:51 |
Warriv_ | mmmucky: negative | 19:51 |
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Warriv_ | mmmucky: there is def. some variance depending on the API call, one moment i'll post some curl cmds | 19:54 |
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Warriv_ | mmmucky: See http://pastebin.com/QkHU2niQ Depending on nature of the API call, it took 6.57 sec, 3.5 sec, or 0.1 sec | 19:57 |
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mmmucky | hmm | 20:00 |
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KaZeR | talking about API, i'm facing some performances issues : i have a big rise in the response time in the last hour : http://i.imgur.com/FdvmQYQ.png | 20:03 |
KaZeR | can someone help me troubleshooting ? | 20:03 |
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PEPPERONIE | what changed? | 20:05 |
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KaZeR | no changes in config, for sure | 20:07 |
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badams | KaZeR: i don't have an answer for you, but do you mind if i ask what you used to make that graph? | 20:08 |
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KaZeR | badams: i have a whisper server running and i'm monitoring it via : https://gist.github.com/pgrandin/9607243 then i graph it using https://gist.github.com/pgrandin/9607258 | 20:10 |
dhblaz | I have an instance that shows it is started in horizon but this on the hypervisor: | 20:10 |
dhblaz | - instance-00000709 shut off | 20:10 |
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KaZeR | PEPPERONIE: last week i had this kind of issues and i think it was related to my keystone | 20:12 |
dhblaz | Is the proper way to fix this to use nova reset-state? | 20:12 |
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KaZeR | dhblaz: reset-state will put your instance either in ERROR or ACTIVE state | 20:12 |
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Warriv_ | mmmucky: ok found the issue | 20:23 |
mmmucky | ooh, do tell. | 20:23 |
Warriv_ | mmmucky: in my nova.conf: memcached_servers=192.168.50.11:11211,192.168.50.12:11211,192.168.50.13:11211 - I eliminated the other two memcached servers from the config (since those other two servers are not yet online / running), then all the API calls went down to 0.5 sec or less | 20:24 |
Warriv_ | mmmucky: I guess I wasn't expecting performance to degrade on the account of those other memcached servers not being online | 20:24 |
* mmmucky nods. | 20:25 | |
mmmucky | perhaps KaZeR lost a memcache server. | 20:25 |
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Warriv_ | mmmucky: hehe perhaps so | 20:26 |
dsarg | mmmucky: any clue why the additional memcache server in that configuration .. would lead to a performance degradation? | 20:26 |
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mmmucky | smells like a connection timeout. | 20:26 |
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Warriv_ | mmmucky: indeed | 20:27 |
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mmmucky | Warriv_: was the missing memcache server at the start of your memcached_servers= list? | 20:29 |
KaZeR | mmmucky: my memcached seems to run.. it's reporting the stats correctly... | 20:29 |
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Warriv_ | mmmucky: neg, the first memcached server was the online one | 20:30 |
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Warriv_ | mmmucky: just tried reverse order - still takes the 6 seconds with that ordering | 20:33 |
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KaZeR | mmmucky: i'm seeing a lot of evictions in my stats. is that related to expired tokens? could it be my issue ? | 20:34 |
Warriv_ | KaZeR: hmm, seems plausible | 20:34 |
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KaZeR | Warriv_: which one? :) the fact that it's my expired tokens or the fact that thoses evictions could be the rootcause of my issues? | 20:35 |
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dsarg | mmmucky: given that there does not seem to be an order dependency relative to the memcached server list. it seems that what is happening is that whenever there are results to be cached that there is code that attempts to cache to all the listed memcache servers. perhaps this code waits for confirmation from each of these servers before completing the API request | 20:42 |
Warriv_ | KaZeR: hmm not really sure. You could try running mytop to see if the database is spending a long time in the tokens table | 20:42 |
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KaZeR | i already restarted memcached and keystone. currently everything is back to normal : fast response time and 0 evictions. i'll put some load on the api and watch these values closelu | 20:43 |
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KaZeR | actually it's slow again. but i have 0 evictions now | 20:47 |
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AGPX | Hi all | 21:13 |
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Warriv_ | mmmucky: filed a bug report about the memcached in nova here https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1293794 | 21:15 |
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AGPX | I'm a newbie in Cloud Computing and I have a question. Openstack is an IaaS, isn't it? If I wrote an application that needs many processors distributed from several hosts, I need a specific programming model, isn't it? That is, if I have two hosts with 4 + 4 cores, can I create a virtual machine that expose all the 8 processors? | 21:17 |
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AGPX | (i.e. 4 cores per hosts) | 21:18 |
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AGPX | *host | 21:18 |
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mmmucky | AGPX: Hi. Yes, OpenStack is Iaas(and more, actually). No, you can't consolidate resources across physical hosts into one virtual host. | 21:19 |
AGPX | Thanks mmmucky | 21:20 |
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mmmucky | If you had one physical host with 8 cores, you could split that up into a collection of virtual machines... that is the main point of OpenStack. | 21:20 |
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mmmucky | well... one of the main points. | 21:21 |
AGPX | So, to exploit the processors of many hosts, I need to use somethings like MPI? | 21:21 |
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AGPX | Or moving to a PaaS? | 21:21 |
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Sam-I-Am | AGPX: openmp or mpi, depending on how your code works | 21:23 |
AGPX | I see. | 21:24 |
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Sam-I-Am | openmp "blobs" separate computing entities together, iirc | 21:24 |
Sam-I-Am | been a while since i've looked at it... at least 15 years | 21:25 |
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Sam-I-Am | back when i worked with compute clusters for research | 21:25 |
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AGPX | I'll try to install OpenStack. | 21:27 |
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AGPX | Thanks for the clarifications. | 21:27 |
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mmmucky | Are there any neat tools for inspecting RabbitMQ RPC calls? I see StackTach is doing some neat stuff, but I'd really like a lightweight tool that can be used to troubleshoot RPC call failures. | 21:50 |
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PEPPERONIE | Hi all, I'm getting an error when using puppetlabs-openstack: "Error: The ovs_redhat provider can not handle attribute external_ids" | 23:18 |
PEPPERONIE | I have no idea what this means, the googles do nothing | 23:18 |
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