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| t4nk272 | hello, i am new to openstack. i want to learn openstack. where can i find video tutorials to build private cloud with own infrastructure? | 05:30 |
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| mmmucky | t4nk272: check out http://docs.openstack.org/ for install guides for your Operating System. | 05:32 |
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| mmmucky | There are some good videos on youtube from the OpenStack Foundation, but I think none of them cover the build process from start to finish. | 05:33 |
| t4nk272 | how can i start building private cloud??? my own 3 laps are sufficient to do it? | 05:34 |
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| mmmucky | As I said, follow the install guide at http://docs.openstack.org/. There are step-by-step instructions. | 05:36 |
| mmmucky | You can build a cloud on a single machine, if you want. | 05:37 |
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| mmmucky | Have a look at devstack, which will deploy a single-machine OpenStack cloud. (It won't be production-quality though) | 05:37 |
| t4nk272 | already installed by following the same tutorials.. | 05:37 |
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| t4nk272 | is it good to deploy all services in one node by using devstack..for practical experiment | 05:39 |
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| mmmucky | It is a good way to easily get openstack running on one node to use for learning / testing. | 05:42 |
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| t4nk272 | not for jst testing... i want to implement it in my campus.. | 05:46 |
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| mmmucky | Then devstack is not a good option and you will want to have more than one server. Three at least, and more if you you want to have HA. | 05:48 |
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| Keksior | Hello. Can anyone help me with openstack networking with too big packets (MTU 1400, but on wireshark packet length 2896) | 09:01 |
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| Qlawy | that neutron is insane :/ | 09:02 |
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| Keksior | yes it is :( | 09:03 |
| Keksior | i've disabled gro on my br-ex interface, and my transfers outside is terrible | 09:03 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: and if you run tcpdump on the ethX in bridge br-ex, do you see the big packets there too? | 09:05 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly wait a moment i'll check | 09:06 |
| djoreilly | Keksior: if not, then that would mean the packet combining is happening in the gq-xxxxxxx-xx interface | 09:06 |
| Keksior | djoreilly, so to get it working i need to disable gro or some offloading at q-xxxxxx-xx itnerface ? | 09:07 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: first, do you see big packets egressing ethX? | 09:08 |
| Keksior | yes i see | 09:09 |
| Keksior | Len 5392 for example | 09:09 |
| djoreilly | Keksior: then it is ethX that is the problem | 09:09 |
| djoreilly | Keksior: you have disabled GRO on it? | 09:09 |
| Keksior | w8 i see that gro is turned on, maybe my coworker turned it on for tests. I'll disable it and do test one more time | 09:10 |
| djoreilly | Keksior: maybe the machine was rebooted? | 09:10 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: uptime shows that it was. I disabled gro, downloading pcap file to analyse | 09:11 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: with gro disabled on eth0 i've got normal packets, up to 1460 MSS | 09:13 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: but still slow? | 09:15 |
| Keksior | djoreilly: doing test from qrouter one more time to check packet size | 09:15 |
| Keksior | yes, one side 200Mbit/s, to other up to 15-20Mbit/s | 09:15 |
| Keksior | still far from 900Mbit/s that i thought it would be | 09:15 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: so you are only getting 10% of expected speed? | 09:16 |
| Keksior | from local network to VM network i've got up to 20Mbit/s with rx checksumming off, with on i've got up to 500kbit/s | 09:16 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: with rx checksumming it is about 1-5% :/ | 09:16 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: so maybe this is specific to your NIC/driver | 09:17 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: i see a lot of retransmissions :/ but Length of the packet is 1348 (qrouter pcap) | 09:17 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: ok, so no big packets on gr-xxxxxx-xx | 09:18 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: but the speed is slow | 09:18 |
| Keksior | djoreilly: i'm using neutron with vlan networking | 09:18 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: you could try disbling all the stuff that 'ethtool -k' shows | 09:19 |
| Keksior | djoreilly: on the0 br-ex ? | 09:19 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: on the physical interface ethX in bridge br-ex | 09:20 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: the speeds are the same :/ | 09:21 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: so this is the OVS agent? | 09:22 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: it may be, any idea how to check it ? | 09:23 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: how did manage to install this without knowing that? | 09:24 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: i've just configured it from manual, i never had to debug problems with it | 09:25 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: so you have disabled all the various offloading things - that didn't work. | 09:25 |
| Keksior | djoreilly: yes :( | 09:26 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: what plaform? | 09:27 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: ubuntu 12.04 LTS with openstack havana | 09:28 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: what kernel? | 09:29 |
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| Keksior | 3.8.0-36-generic | 09:29 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: I don't know. Make sure ovs_use_veth=False. | 09:30 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: Check vswitchd cpu utilization. Try another NIC - with no fancy offloading stuff | 09:31 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: okej i'll try. Thanks for your help ! Very very much ! | 09:32 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: of course the errors shown by tcpdump analysis should point to the problem | 09:33 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: ok. Thanks for clues :) | 09:39 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: do you really need floating ip functionality? if not, then you don't need the L3 agent when using VLAN mode | 09:46 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: but the thing is that i need it very very much, that's the main problem :/ | 09:54 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: you should try using an older kernel eg 3.2 on the network node - even just as a test. | 10:04 |
| Keksior | djoreilly: is it possible that the problem is because my controller node is also network node ? | 10:05 |
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| msitarz | Hi | 10:07 |
| msitarz | does anyone know if cloudbase-init supports creating/passing user developed plugins via user-data? | 10:08 |
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| srenatus | msitarz: there's userdata plugins here https://github.com/cloudbase/cloudbase-init/tree/master/cloudbaseinit/plugins/windows/userdataplugins | 10:10 |
| srenatus | never tried, just had a quick look out of curiousity | 10:10 |
| srenatus | msitarz: I guess you could use the shellscript handler with a python script, but that'd not be a cloudbase-init plugin then... but just some python code being run | 10:11 |
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| msitarz | srenatus: I'm aware of the userdataplugin, but it supports only batch,bash and powershell only | 10:18 |
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| msitarz | I thought if I add a plain-text part in the userdata it will be save on disk somewhere, but it isn't | 10:18 |
| msitarz | cloud-init has the write_file feature which is great | 10:18 |
| msitarz | srenatus: but thanks for the link to the source file, it looks like python files in the user data are supported (file_name.endswith(".py")) | 10:19 |
| msitarz | cloudbase-init documentation is bad and it looks as it's not with sync with the source files | 10:20 |
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| srenatus | msitarz: maybe the documentation is up-to-date with the packages (if there are any), just be sure that _your_ code has the endswith(py) | 10:38 |
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| msitarz | srenatus: I've got their sample Windows image, but it's outdated | 10:52 |
| msitarz | I'll inject the new libs into the qcow2 | 10:52 |
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| greggyNapalm | Hi All, is there any way to know with nova client on what physical host my instance running? | 10:53 |
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| anand | greggyNapalm: nova show instance-ID shows in which hypervisor your instance runs | 10:55 |
| greggyNapalm | for example https://gist.github.com/greggyNapalm/9617859 hostId there? | 10:57 |
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| lipinski | Is this the proper channel to ask about Heat template stuff? Or is there someplace better? | 10:58 |
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| vishal_ | i created a compute node with flat network | 11:02 |
| vishal_ | doesnt work | 11:02 |
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| vishal_ | I am able to launch an instance | 11:03 |
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| vishal_ | but the instace doesnt get assigned with an ip | 11:03 |
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| vishal_ | need some help | 11:53 |
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| vishal_ | i had setup openstack with flat networking | 11:54 |
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| vishal_ | but instance created doesnt get ip address | 11:54 |
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| larsks | lipinski: The best thing to do is just ask :). | 12:49 |
| basic | i have a centos 6.5 image created, and i put all of the cloud-init, cloud-utils tools on it, but when i deploy the image the disk still isn't resizing | 12:49 |
| basic | what am i missing? is there an initrd trick that I need to add to the image? | 12:49 |
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| larsks | basic: You need cloud-utils-growpart and dracut-modules-growroot, both of which you can get from EPEL. | 12:49 |
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| basic | larsks: ahhh, was missing the dracut-modules | 12:50 |
| basic | will it just work, or is there configuration to be done? | 12:50 |
| larsks | It should Just Work (although make sure you regenereted your initramfs after installing it). | 12:50 |
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| badams | morning y'all. is there a way to associate a kernel image with a disk image through glance? | 12:51 |
| basic | great, i'll test it out | 12:51 |
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| tomixxx5 | hi, i have nova-networking installed. now i want to create an floating ip pool to access my VMs from the controller node. do i have to create the pool on the controller node or on the physical node which hosts the VMs? | 13:24 |
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| larsks | tomixxx5: I'm not sure I understand that question...but probably "on the controller" is the answer you want. That is, you need to run "nova-manage floating create", and the configuration to make that work is most likely in /etc/nova/nova.conf on the controller. | 13:34 |
| larsks | Address pools are global -- that is, not specific to a particular compute node. | 13:34 |
| tomixxx5 | larsks: i have already figured out that it does not matter on which node the command is called | 13:35 |
| larsks | Right. It just needs to be able to access the database, and if you have the appropriate config everywhere you're in good shape. | 13:35 |
| tomixxx5 | however, now, i have assigned a floating IP to the wordpress demo app but i cannot browse to 172.31.0.255/wordpress on controller node, for example | 13:35 |
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| tomixxx5 | where 172.31.0.255 is the assigned floating ip | 13:36 |
| larsks | I don't have a nova-network environment around to look at, and I've been working mostly with neutron, so I'm not sure exactly where to debug. | 13:36 |
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| tomixxx5 | larsks: what is your cloud setup? | 13:37 |
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| larsks | Generally, my test environment is a four node cluster using neutron with a controller, network host, and two compute hosts. | 13:37 |
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| tomixxx5 | larsks: kk, i have no dedicated network host and neutron seems to be complex, so i want to stay with nova networking | 13:38 |
| larsks | Probably a good choice. | 13:39 |
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| tomixxx5 | it seems nat rules are not complete | 13:42 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: maybe you're here ?:> | 13:55 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: I am | 13:55 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: i've changed my configuration from VLAN to GRE tunnels, and no i've got different situation | 13:56 |
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| Keksior | qrouter iperf test from VM is 250 Mbit/s only | 13:56 |
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| Keksior | from qrouter to VM i've got 500Kbit/s | 13:57 |
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| tomixxx5 | according to the official guide: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/nova-network.html do i have to edit also the config on the controller node? | 13:57 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: to clarify - changing to GRE made things different? | 13:57 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: i thought it can, so i wanted to try this, but the problem just changed. I'm waiting for new network card to check on the other hardware | 13:59 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: that link is for nova-network - you don't want that installed when you are using Neutron | 13:59 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: so on the production i should use VXLAN ? | 14:00 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: i just want to get one "networking concept" and try to get it working | 14:00 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: you first need to choose between nova-network or neutron. | 14:01 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: i need neutron, that's for sure i need lot of virtual networks | 14:02 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: ok, then you need to make sure that you don't install/config for nova-network | 14:03 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: i didn't even install nova-network. I just configured neutron. with GRE tunnels for now on | 14:05 |
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| tomixxx5 | ah its seems i have a wrong public interface set, confused eth0 and eth1 | 14:05 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: oh ok good. | 14:06 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: i've changed the MTU for my VM's to 1400, disabled gro for my eth0 (br-ex) | 14:07 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: again, verify with tcpdump that the packets are 1400 | 14:08 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: i verified it, the packet length is max 1348 | 14:10 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: ok. So does wireshark show tcp errors? | 14:11 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: yes, lots of retransmissions | 14:15 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: so this is a iperf from a vm to where exactly? | 14:17 |
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| Keksior | from qrouter to vm | 14:18 |
| Keksior | with bandwidth about 200-300 kbit/s :/ | 14:18 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: so you are running iperf in the qrouter namespace? | 14:18 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: yes i run iperf -c on qrouter namespace, the similiar throughput i've got from outside virtual networks | 14:19 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: did you do any iperf test between vms on different compute nodes? | 14:20 |
| Keksior | djoreilly: from Hypervisor machine to qrouter using ext-net i've got 942Mbit/s | 14:20 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: no i didn't, but i can do it | 14:20 |
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| tomixxx5 | i have a question according to the official guide: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/nova-network.html. is the "public_interface" the interface of the internal or the interface of the external network? | 14:21 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: if you have 2 computes nodes. I expect the same as vm<->qrouter | 14:21 |
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| Keksior | i didn't attached next compute nodes before i got this working | 14:22 |
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| tomixxx5 | plz help :( | 14:22 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: but from Hypervisor to qrouter by ext-net i've got 1 Gbit/s | 14:22 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: check that you don't have ovs_use_veth=True | 14:24 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: in the l3-agent conf file | 14:24 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: i had this line commented, i'll change it to flase and restart my vm's | 14:25 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: I think it defaults to false anyway | 14:26 |
| tomixxx5 | should i be able to SSH VMs from the controller node without floating ips? | 14:26 |
| tomixxx5 | ds+ | 14:26 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: my VM's starting up. I've got volumes on ceph, and the network are slow so it takes up to 3-5 minutes ;/ | 14:28 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: now i've got cloud-init-nonet ;/ | 14:31 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: i see that i've got dhcp request but no response ;/ | 14:34 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: it's after i rebooted my vm's, i'll to create new one | 14:37 |
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| tomixxx5 | if i do "service nova-network restart" on a compute node, do i have to restart anything else? | 14:40 |
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| Keksior | tomixxx5: ino you don't need to | 14:42 |
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| tomixxx5 | i have changed public_interface and now everything is broken, then i wanted reset public_interface to old value but it did not help | 14:43 |
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| tomixxx5 | on the controller, i cannot acceess outside network anymore | 14:43 |
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| tomixxx5 | i dont know why nova-network service on a compute node causes external network of controller to crash... | 14:44 |
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| tomixxx5 | ok, i rebooted both compute nodes, now it seems to work again.... what a *grml*.... | 14:46 |
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| tomixxx5 | need a cup of coffee now... | 14:47 |
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| tomixxx5 | however, i have still the same question: which interface is meant with "public_interface"? the external or the internal interface? | 14:51 |
| tomixxx5 | i mean "public_interface" in /etc/nova/nova.conf | 14:51 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: i didn't changed anything and my VM's can't get response form DHCP server ;/ | 14:56 |
| Keksior | tomixxx5: i think it is external interface | 14:56 |
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| Keksior | because the internal would be virtual interface | 14:56 |
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| tomixxx5 | keksior: there is a serious naming convention problem | 14:57 |
| tomixxx5 | if u look at this: | 14:57 |
| djoreilly | Keksior: I don't really know what your config is now, so I can't guess why. | 14:57 |
| tomixxx5 | http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/basics-networking.html | 14:57 |
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| tomixxx5 | then the "external network" is (in my opinion) the network whcih connects the physical node to the external network and the "internal network" connects the physical nodes with other nodes. | 14:58 |
| tomixxx5 | so, the "internal network" stated here seems to be the "external network" from the view of the VMs hosted on that phsycial node | 14:58 |
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| tomixxx5 | do u know what i mean? | 14:59 |
| tomixxx5 | or am i wrong? | 14:59 |
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| defrostr | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1072014 <- this is a lifesaver | 15:13 |
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| larsks | tomixxx5: I think that document is using "external network" to mean "tenant network" -- that is, network traffic originating from instances, as opposed to openstack api-related traffic. | 15:15 |
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| larsks | Presumably on the controller, this traffic is ultimately associated with a floating ip address and hence gives the instances external connectivity. | 15:15 |
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| larsks | I think that "internal" and "external" are generally terrible labels for networks, because they mean different things to different people. | 15:16 |
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| tomixxx5 | larsks: i have understand this in a way, that each node has 2 network interface cards. 1 card is connected to the external network (i.e. internet) and 1 card is connected to a switch together with oder nodes | 15:17 |
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| larsks | tomixxx5: I would say, one network is used for communicating with other openstack services, and one network is used for tenant networks. | 15:17 |
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| tomixxx5 | and the internet? | 15:17 |
| tomixxx5 | where is the connection to the outside, external world? | 15:18 |
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| larsks | The tenant network *may* connect some nodes to the internet, via the network gateway, but there is no requirement that all instances have internet access. | 15:18 |
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| tomixxx5 | hm | 15:19 |
| larsks | (Well, there is no requirement for inbound internet access -- I think that with nova-network instances will always have outbound access via a NAT rule) | 15:19 |
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| tomixxx5 | ok | 15:20 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: i've got working back my VM's by disabling libvirt_use_virtio_for_bridges | 15:22 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: but still at VM creating i've got cloun-init-nonet,, and after 120 seconds it started with ip address :| | 15:22 |
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| tomixxx5 | larsks: however, i guess this makes not much difference in my case, because i have all NIcs connected to a single switch. and one ethernet cable goes from the swith to the internet | 15:23 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: but still my VM's network throughput is the same ;/ | 15:24 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: i've got ovs_use_veth=False, but the problem still occurs :( | 15:28 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: yeah - I didn't expect that to make much difference. The veth speed drop is not as bad as what you have. | 15:29 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: should GRO be disables only only on br-ex physical interface ? or on the br-ex too ? | 15:30 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: you think i should try downgrading my kernel to 3.2 ? | 15:31 |
| djoreilly | Keksior: at the moment you seem to have a problem between the qr- interface in the router namespace and the vm | 15:32 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: yes, i've got 250/40 Mbit at iperf | 15:33 |
| djoreilly | Keksior: ... that should mean br-ex is not even in the picture - assuming you have it configed correct | 15:33 |
| djoreilly | Keksior: 250/40 ? | 15:34 |
| Keksior | 250 from VM to qrouter, and 40 mbit/s from qrouter to VM | 15:34 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: ok. And that is over a GRE backed private net now? | 15:38 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: yes it it, with mtu set to 1400 | 15:39 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: from controller to VM i've got ~1Mbit/s with tx/rx checksumming on | 15:42 |
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| tomixxx5 | i cannot reach from my controller node my VM with the assigned floating ip... i mean the packages does not even arrive at the hypervisor | 15:43 |
| djoreilly | Keksior: what do you mean by "from controller"? | 15:43 |
| Keksior | djoreilly: from physical machine another than hypervisor hosting VM | 15:43 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: but if things are configured properly, you should not be able to a private GRE backed network from - without a neutron router | 15:45 |
| djoreilly | Keksior: ^^^ to access ... | 15:45 |
| Keksior | djoreilly: yes, im doing it via floating ip | 15:45 |
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| tomixxx5 | is there an ubuntu command to see dns resolution path? | 15:48 |
| ersi | tomixxx5: tracepath? traceroute? | 15:49 |
| ersi | oh, nevermind - I'm too tired. | 15:50 |
| tomixxx5 | ersi: it's dig | 15:50 |
| tomixxx5 | np | 15:50 |
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| tomixxx5 | do i have to attach the "controller node" as dns server in order to use floating ips? | 15:50 |
| tomixxx5 | from the controller node | 15:51 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: your my last hope :( i'm tired of solving this problem, out of ideas | 15:52 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: the tunnel between the namespace/qr- and the vm should not touch physical interfaces directly. | 15:52 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: ..unless the offloading nonsense can also apply itself to virtual interfaces like qr-xxxx | 15:53 |
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| tomixxx5 | is it possible, to access a floating ip from the browser of the controller node? | 15:54 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: so maybe try run ethtool in the qrouter namespace to turn off gro on qr-xxxxxxx | 15:54 |
| tomixxx5 | i can access the floating ip from the hypervisor, but not from the controller | 15:54 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: QR or QG interface :>? | 15:55 |
| djoreilly | Keksior: qr- | 15:56 |
| djoreilly | Keksior: this is for the test between the qr- and the vm | 15:56 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: still the same :/ | 15:56 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: I donno. Try downgrade the kernel to 3.2 on the netnode. You probably have to fix up ovs then too | 15:57 |
| Keksior | djoreilly:i've got lot of tcp retransmission in pcap | 15:57 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: ok, tomorrow i'll try, thank you very much for help | 15:57 |
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| djoreilly | Keksior: ok | 15:58 |
| Keksior | djoreilly: i'll give you information after trying this solution | 15:58 |
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| Keksior | djoreilly: time to go home, have a good day :) | 15:58 |
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| tomixxx5 | if i try "sudo iptables -A nova-network-OUTPUT -d 172.31.0.255/32 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.12" i get : "iptables: invalid argument. run "dmesg" for more information" | 16:04 |
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| tomixxx5 | "dmesg" says then: "iptables: DNAT target: only valid in nat table, not filter" | 16:05 |
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| tomixxx5 | does anyone know what the problem is? the statement is from this site: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/section_network-troubleshoot.html | 16:05 |
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| sgran | tomixxx5: you need iptables -t nat -A nova-network-OUTPUT ... | 16:08 |
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| tomixxx5 | sgran: ty... | 16:08 |
| larsks | tomixxx5: That looks like a documentation bug. You cannot have NAT rules in the iptables "filter" table. | 16:08 |
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| jain_mj | I am trying to setup havana on debian 7 | 16:55 |
| jain_mj | do i need to enable any nova API service on controller | 16:56 |
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| jain_mj | i am not planning to use cinder | 16:56 |
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| jain_mj | If it is a compute node that you are setting-up, then you only need to run the metadata API server. If you run Cinder, then you don't need osapi_volume (you cannot run │ | 16:56 |
| jain_mj | │ osapi_volume and cinder-api on the same server: they bind on the same port). | 16:56 |
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| nekinie | hey, is any one in here running 2014.1.b3 | 17:09 |
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| mtrisoline | Hello, I am running into an issue with ceilometer and swift, | 17:12 |
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| mtrisoline | pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: ceilometer | 17:13 |
| mtrisoline | Having through trying to resolve this anyone run into this before or be able to help point me in the right direction? | 17:13 |
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| larsks | jain_mj: The "nova-api" service is the service that both the command line tools and the horizon web interface require in order to actually create and manage instances. So in general, yes, you will need it. | 18:03 |
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| sballe | geekinutah, I am here | 18:07 |
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| larsks | mtrisoline: Do you have ceilometer installed? Are you able to "import ceilometer" from a Python shell? | 18:07 |
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| geekinutah | sballe: what specifically are you looking for? There's lots of information about provider networks out there if you do a google search | 18:08 |
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| jain_mj | larsks: i was referring to "enabled_apis = ec2,osapi_compute,metadata" | 18:08 |
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| sballe | I am trying to understand 1. how to set them up, 2. and exactely what they are | 18:09 |
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| mtrisoline | larsks: this is happening with swift I have ceilometer installed on the controller node | 18:09 |
| sballe | I would like some example of use cases | 18:09 |
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| larsks | jain_mj: "ec2" is the Amazon EC2 compatible API. osapi_compute is the native OpenStack compute API. "metadata" is the metadata service. You will need at least osapi-compute and metadata. I don't *think* anything requires the EC2 api. | 18:10 |
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| mtrisoline | larsks: I did install the python module | 18:10 |
| mtrisoline | /etc # rpm -qa | grep ceil | 18:10 |
| mtrisoline | python-ceilometer-2013.2.2-1.el6.noarch | 18:10 |
| larsks | mtrisoline: Huh. That looks fine. | 18:11 |
| mtrisoline | Just has me confused because its working everywhere else. | 18:11 |
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| larsks | mtrisoline: what is actually generating that error message? | 18:12 |
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| mtrisoline | swift-proxy-server /etc/swift/proxy-server.conf --verbose | 18:12 |
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| mtrisoline | same happens when I start the service | 18:13 |
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| larsks | Some obvious questions, I guess: if you just start a python shell, can you successfully "import ceilometer"? | 18:13 |
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| mtrisoline | larsks: yep | 18:15 |
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| larsks | mtrisoline: Installed from packages for from sources? | 18:20 |
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| mpetason | mtrisoline: i had the same issue when i was running a separate swift controller. i just left the ceilometer service on, removed the two settings they told me to change in the proxy server, and it appears to be giving me updates still. | 18:22 |
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| mpetason | mtrisoline: i took ceilometer out of the pipeline and filter, then restarted the proxy server, which let it come back up. this was on cents 6.5, I don't have anything in the proxy server besides the recommended operator_roles. | 18:23 |
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| mpetason | mtrisoline: i guess that part is what handles the inbound/outbound traffic. i couldn't get past the error, so I'm just getting the other swift meter information :( | 18:24 |
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| dyim | hi i have a question about storage, i have been reading about cinder (object) and swift (block). How does the storage need to be configured? I see in some places it is LVM, other times i see it should be glusterFS for cinder. I have both local storage and shared network storage. I would like the images to live locally and persistent storage to live on the network storage. Is there documentation that I can check out regarding this? | 18:30 |
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| mpetason | mtrisoline: actually i think that error went way when i added in ceilometer after proxy server instead of further up in the list, then i ran into issues with reading configuration files. | 18:32 |
| mtrisoline | larsks: packages, I used the rdo repository its all running on centos 6.5 | 18:32 |
| mtrisoline | mpetason: I have been going back and forth between the openstack docs and the red hat docs there are some discrepencies | 18:33 |
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| mpetason | mtrisoline: yeah i think that the guide expects you to have all of this running on the controller, which most users probably aren't, so it assumes you have certain packages. | 18:34 |
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| mtrisoline | mpetason: when I move it to the end I get a different error | 18:35 |
| mpetason | mtrisoline: so not to the very end. it should be between keystone and proxy-server, my bad, i think the rdo guide had that. | 18:36 |
| mpetason | mtrisoline: then the errors i run into are "failed to read some config files" which is the point I stopped, because I needed to finish other services. | 18:36 |
| geekinutah | sballe: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/section_networking-provider-router_with-provate-networks.html | 18:37 |
| geekinutah | have you seen that guy before? | 18:37 |
| mtrisoline | mpetason: ya the rdo guide had that. I ran into the config file issue, but I just made sure /etc/swift was owned by swift:swift and then I ran into the error that I am seeing now. | 18:37 |
| mtrisoline | When I strip that out it starts up though | 18:38 |
| sballe | geekinutah, this is perfect. I hadn't seen this before. thx | 18:38 |
| geekinutah | no, problem , sorry took me a while to respond, had someone come into my office :-) | 18:38 |
| sballe | geekinutah, np :) | 18:38 |
| geekinutah | feel free to ask more questions, we use provider networks all over the place in our production environments, so I'm happy to share more | 18:38 |
| mpetason | mtrisoline: mine is trying to read the ceilometer conf files, swift was already chowned swift:swift, so i'm not sure if it expects a different service or not. | 18:39 |
| sballe | geekinutah, perfect. thx. I will take you up on your offer | 18:39 |
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| mutex | Hi | 18:48 |
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| mutex | Is there are preferred way to migrate instances between openstack clusters ? | 18:48 |
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| mtrisoline | mpetason: dunno, I don't have any ceilometer files on my swift node | 18:48 |
| mutex | aside from creating a image snapshot, download, then upload to new cluster | 18:49 |
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| larsks | mutex: That's pretty much it. If you can arrange to share a single glance instance between the two clusters you can skip the download-then-upload step. | 18:51 |
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| mutex | larsks: oh that is an interesting solution | 18:52 |
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| mutex | I suppose there might even be a way to duplicate members of one glance instance into another | 18:53 |
| mutex | no way to save the ephemeral disks though right ? | 18:53 |
| mutex | aside from manually copying things | 18:53 |
| larsks | I don't believe so, no. | 18:53 |
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| mutex | larsks: I see, are there any scripts people have written to do this ? | 18:58 |
| mutex | I can do it all manually, just curious if there is anything out there already | 18:58 |
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| mpetason | mtrisoline: i got it working finally | 19:02 |
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| mpetason | mtrisoline: at least right now it's showing outgoing.bytes while I wait for it to update. | 19:03 |
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| larsks | mutex: I'm not aware of any scripts to automate the process. You should write some. :) | 19:03 |
| mpetason | mtrisoline: and api requests now | 19:03 |
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| mpetason | mtrisoline: what errors are you getting now? | 19:03 |
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| mutex | larsks: heh, I'll keep that in mind! | 19:05 |
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| mtrisoline | mpetason: Cool, I have all the CLI stuff working, but not getting anything in the dashboard, this is the error that I am still getting ceilometer coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, NoneType found | 19:06 |
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| mpetason | mtrisoline: i installed the ceilometer-collector. setup the configuration files in /usr/share/ceilometer/ceilometer-dist.conf and /etc/ceilometer/ceilometer.conf (setup rpc/qpid/mongo) then created /var/log/swift-proxly-server.log and chown swift:swift on it. | 19:08 |
| mtrisoline | And ceilometer on the controller node is giving me an error on connecting to swift 111 ECONREFUSED which makes sense because the proxy won't start | 19:08 |
| mpetason | mtrisoline: started ceilometer-collector service, then restarted openstack-swift-proxy | 19:08 |
| mtrisoline | mpetason: interesting. I'll give that ashot. | 19:09 |
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| mpetason | mtrisoline: if that still didn't work you could add swift to the ceilometer group, so that it can read the conf files, for whatever reason it seems to need to when I was getting the rror. | 19:09 |
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| notmyname | mpetason: mtrisoline: https://github.com/openstack/swift/commit/c656e1894918d774fa841214f2e00af8a4a66b44 <--included in Swift 1.13.0 | 19:11 |
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| notmyname | mpetason: mtrisoline: that was added because of some permissions thing with ceilometer configs | 19:12 |
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| notmyname | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67905/ | 19:12 |
| mpetason | notmyname: sweet, I have to stick with the version in the RDO havana release :( | 19:12 |
| mpetason | notmyname: so i just made updates on the group. | 19:13 |
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| mpetason | notmyname: mtrisoline: that line "usermod -g ceilometer -G swift swift" | 19:13 |
| dyim | exit | 19:13 |
| notmyname | mpetason: ok. I' haven't been following your conversation too closely, but from a couple of things that were said, I thought it might be resolved by that patch | 19:13 |
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| mpetason | notmyname: it is, if it removes the need to change groups. but yeah that was one of the errors I was seeing. | 19:14 |
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| dyim | Hi i was wondering how to configure the storage portion if there was local storage on each of the compute nodes and a network storage for slower/persistent storage? | 19:17 |
| mtrisoline | mpetason: that worked | 19:17 |
| mpetason | mtrisoline: sweet. hopefully that can hold it over until the newer version gets pushed to the repos. | 19:17 |
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| mpetason | mtrisoline: feel like I'll be moving over to icehouse sooner for support of a few things. finishing up this havana install so I can put together a dev environment and have some fun :p | 19:18 |
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| mtrisoline | mpetason: Ya. Research into internal IaaS for me. Trying to put together a roadmap to ditch vmware and give devs a Paas / Iaas stuff | 19:20 |
| mtrisoline | ya know | 19:20 |
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| mpetason | mtrisoline: havana is nice because you can finally use ldap for identity and sql for assignment, which means auth with ldap, so it's easier to setup AD as a backend just for logging in. then managing roles/blah through sql. | 19:21 |
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| mutex | mpetason: cept there is one serious gotcha!!! | 19:29 |
| mutex | that I discovered yesterday | 19:29 |
| mutex | if your user is 'disabled' but not removed from the group, any queries to that tenant user list will return an error 'user not found' | 19:29 |
| mutex | and you cannot remove the user because they do not exist | 19:29 |
| mutex | :-( | 19:29 |
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| mpetason | mutex: disabled in AD? I had issues when I had users still in MySQL before setting up AD, I had to go in and drop the tables to get it to work correctly. Since "admin" and other users were still in SQL. | 19:31 |
| mutex | mpetason: yeah I had to do that too | 19:31 |
| mpetason | mutex: my bug is Horizon not working with Nuetron+Heat using the Keystone v3 api. | 19:31 |
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| mutex | in what way ? | 19:32 |
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| mpetason | mutex: cents 6.5 using 2012.2.2 of the dashboard. It just doesn't login. It logs in with all other endpoints, just not Heat by itself, or Neutron by itself, or both together. | 19:32 |
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| mpetason | mutex: doesn't error either. | 19:33 |
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| mutex | mpetason: hm, well I know that the daemons sometimes have copies of each otehrs passwords in the config files | 19:34 |
| mutex | did you ensure that all the passwords are up to date ? That was one of the biggest problems for me | 19:34 |
| mutex | including in heat.conf and heat-engine.conf | 19:34 |
| mpetason | mutex: everything works with v2.0. | 19:34 |
| mpetason | mutex: did hours of troubleshooting. | 19:34 |
| mpetason | mutex: when switching to v3 it breaks, when it uses 2.0 it works. | 19:35 |
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| mutex | oh I see | 19:35 |
| mutex | strange | 19:35 |
| mutex | bugs bugs bugs | 19:35 |
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| coredump_ | guys, does anyone know if the openstack chef cookbooks are up to date with Havana? | 19:38 |
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| mtrisoline | Anyone see an issue where you can query ceilometer data from the CLI and get the expected response but see no data populated back up to horizon? | 20:12 |
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| mpetason | mtrisoline: are you getting errors when you click the data in /var/log/httpd/error.log? Also, are you creating stuff in tenants so that it has data to pull against? Most of them have to be talking to qpid too, so that ceilometer can see it | 20:15 |
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| mpetason | mtrisoline: it usually took a few minutes for me to see data in horizon when i was able to pull stuff with ceilometer meter-list | 20:16 |
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| mtrisoline | mpetason: Nope, no errors and everything is talking to qpid | 20:16 |
| mtrisoline | I have some stuff created | 20:17 |
| mpetason | mtrisoline: did you logout/back in to get a new token since you were restarting services/other stuff | 20:17 |
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| mtrisoline | Nope I didn't do that. | 20:17 |
| mpetason | mtrisoline: i don't really know if that does anything haha. | 20:17 |
| mpetason | mtrisoline: just something i usually do when i'm restarting stuff. | 20:18 |
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| dhblaz | Is there a more appropriate place for me to as Open vSwitch questions or is there help available here? | 22:02 |
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| mgiles | dhblaz: what's the question? | 22:08 |
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| dhblaz | Having problems with the a compute node that won't talk to my cinder api (configured to do so on a public interface) | 22:10 |
| dhblaz | I found that my br-eth3 (the bridge to the physical interface that should have public traffic) doesn't show any traffic when I use tcpdump -ni br-eth3 | 22:10 |
| dhblaz | but but tcpdump -ni eth3 yields packets this is not the case on working nodes | 22:10 |
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| mgiles | dhblaz: do you have the br-eth3 configured with IP/netmask addr or eth3? | 22:11 |
| dhblaz | neither the ip/netmask is on br-ex | 22:12 |
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| mgiles | dhblaz: can you paste your openvswitch plugin config and the ifcfg-* files in some public pastebin? | 22:13 |
| dhblaz | and there is a patch between br-ex and br-eth3 | 22:13 |
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| mgiles | dhblaz: like http://fpaste.org/ | 22:14 |
| dhblaz | mgiles, I can but I will have to sanitize them. I'll have to come back another time as I have run out of time for today. | 22:14 |
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| mgiles | dhblaz: OK | 22:14 |
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| sneezewort | Hello all. I have a situation where I need to run "ethtool -K eth0 tso off" on each VM before I get any acceptable network speed out of the VM. What does this indicate the problem might be? | 22:34 |
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