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| fungi | (but then i found out that casein is the reason i spent most of my life in pain, stopped consuming dairy, and have been glad even if it means no more chocolate-ginger ice cream) | 00:01 |
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| fungi | anyway, i _suspect_ that anywhere that carries the reed's ginger brew, which is a lot of places (at least in the usa so maybe also canadia) can likely order it from the same distributor? | 00:02 |
| fungi | no clue really | 00:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Roxana Gherle proposed openstack/requirements: Include latest oslo.config in requirements.txt https://review.openstack.org/206229 | 00:05 |
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| anteaya | sounds like a story I have heard many times, used to get it from the health food store then they stopped carrying it | 00:08 |
| anteaya | thanks though, I will keep an eye out | 00:08 |
| anteaya | I used to work at a health food store | 00:09 |
| anteaya | suppliers were always changing things :( | 00:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Separate out custom yaml tags into separate classes https://review.openstack.org/180370 | 00:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add nonvoting beaker tests to infra/puppet* https://review.openstack.org/208799 | 00:15 |
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| anteaya | nibalizer: so 208799 makes two brand new job builders, removes a non-voting job, creates a zuul template with 4 jobs and adds the zuul template to a whole bunch of repos | 00:19 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: how would you feel about making the two brand new job builders, the new zuul template and adding the new zuul template to one repo until we are sure the builds work as expected | 00:20 |
| anteaya | and then remove the one non-voting job and adding the zuul template to the remaining repos in a follow up patch? | 00:20 |
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| anteaya | that way if the builds don't work as expected we don't have every puppet repo running them | 00:21 |
| crinkle | Shrews: what is the difference between OpenStackConfig and CloudConfig? openstack_cloud() seems to want OpenStackConfig but ProviderManager.provider.cloud_config is a CloudConfig | 00:21 |
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| nibalizer | anteaya: ya thats fine by me | 00:21 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: did you want me to put that in a comment? | 00:21 |
| anteaya | for tracking | 00:21 |
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| nibalizer | anteaya: no worries I'll just fix it now | 00:23 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: great, thank you | 00:23 |
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| nibalizer | anteaya: there you are | 00:26 |
| anteaya | thank you | 00:26 |
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| Nakato | clarkb: lifeless: I must be missing something, because I'm not aware of any method to run a test without it being merged. | 00:44 |
| Nakato | Or do you mean to edit the bindist job to run py27-constraints instead of py27? | 00:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-nodepool: Fix nodepool class parameter defaults https://review.openstack.org/211366 | 00:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-nodepool: Add Gemfile and puppet 4 checks https://review.openstack.org/211367 | 00:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make the openstackci-beaker job voting https://review.openstack.org/208631 | 00:54 |
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| clarkb | Nakato I mean update novas py27 to do constraints | 00:56 |
| clarkb | push that and run experimental jobs on iy | 00:56 |
| clarkb | as there is a job in nova experimental that uses zuul cloner to grab the conatraints | 00:57 |
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| clarkb | and it runs py27 | 00:59 |
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| lifeless | Nakato: push a new separate patch | 01:08 |
| lifeless | Nakato: that has none of the clever, just changes py27 to use constraints | 01:08 |
| lifeless | Nakato: it will test what clarkb wants to test, I think | 01:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sachi King proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run experemental test on nova with constraints https://review.openstack.org/211369 | 01:11 |
| Nakato | clarkb: lifeless ^ | 01:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: update cliff to 1.14.0 https://review.openstack.org/211320 | 01:17 |
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| greghaynes | TheJulia: Thought about the network_info generation - I wonder if the dict building could be done in python (maybe as a module which exports the var) and then just template {{ network_info | to_json }} - that jinja seems pretty painful to grok/write... | 01:22 |
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| greghaynes | TheJulia: I mention that because this vlan business makes that a lot worse ;) | 01:24 |
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| stevemar_ | is the proposal bot to update requirements run as a post job to requirements being updated? or just daily at night? | 01:27 |
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| TheJulia | greghaynes: I was already thinking about because... jinja2. :) | 01:30 |
| TheJulia | s/about/about that/ | 01:30 |
| greghaynes | yea, jinja2 is pain | 01:30 |
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| ianw | greghaynes: just digging into dib caching a bit | 01:35 |
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| ianw | greghaynes: so by default, yum uses a local package cache, bind mounted into the chroot during install | 01:36 |
| ianw | greghaynes: deb builds do not do this, but have a (incomplete, i think) option DIB_USE_SHARED_PACKAGE_CACHE to do this | 01:36 |
| ianw | i think the sane way forward is for both to do the same thing, and have common flag. but someone has to change | 01:37 |
| ianw | my current thinking is to turn it on for deb | 01:37 |
| lifeless | Nakato: ah no | 01:38 |
| lifeless | Nakato: what clarkb meant is to change teh tox.ini stuff | 01:38 |
| lifeless | Nakato: so that 'py27' runs what your /actual/ patch does for py27-constraints | 01:38 |
| chen12 | hi infra, I have create a new project, as you can see from here. From the document, now I need to ask you guys to add me to project groups: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#update-the-gerrit-group-members. Anyone can help me ? | 01:38 |
| Nakato | lifeless: Ah, okay. My misunderstanding. | 01:39 |
| lifeless | Nakato: I think clarkb is worried about the constraints code interacting with zuul-gerrit-prep or something | 01:39 |
| lifeless | Nakato: but I'm really not clear myself, thus we're doing this back and forth thing with clarkb | 01:39 |
| chen12 | hi infra, I have create a new project, as you can see from here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207050/. From the document, now I need to ask you guys to add me to project groups: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#update-the-gerrit-group-members. Anyone can help me ? | 01:40 |
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| greghaynes | ianw: The deb builds should do that too, that flag is to turn it off IIRC | 02:09 |
| greghaynes | ianw: but yes, the flag should be the same | 02:09 |
| greghaynes | ianw: The other thing is by default I think we should copy the bind mounted package cache as part of the file tree copy into the image and support turning that off. | 02:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/pbr: Handle git being entirely absent https://review.openstack.org/210964 | 02:10 |
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| greghaynes | ianw: I want to say its the dpkg element which takes care of doing the bind mounding for debian based distros | 02:11 |
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| ianw | greghaynes: i'm not really convinced on copying in of the package cache, because you can't know what's in it | 03:06 |
| ianw | there might be stuff from old builds. so i think that keeping the cache and using the cache are sort of exclusive options | 03:07 |
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| greghaynes | ianw: both ways have issues so we have to expose some kind of control over it reguardless - our current behavior breaks infra's use case if caching is enabled because they want the caching artifacts in the images. IMO on defaults its a matter of do we want to dissapear some data from the images or do we want to possibly put more data in the images than was actually needed and I think the latter is a | 03:40 |
| greghaynes | sane default as long as we document it | 03:40 |
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| ianw | greghaynes: yeah, i'll have a stack out shortly that we can review and discuss that unifies this | 03:41 |
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| ianw | greghaynes: speaking of documentation, it's a bit of a mess, with readme containing most of the stuff probably that should just be in docs/* | 03:41 |
| ianw | that can be another project | 03:42 |
| greghaynes | ianw: I think theres a patch out to remove the bits from README... basically what happened is I did a big dump into docs/* and there was some reworking but we churned for a while on what exactly should remain in the README | 03:42 |
| greghaynes | but yea, the docs are a newish thing and definitely where we should start putting things | 03:43 |
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| ianw | greghaynes: ok; i see there's some old changes around that now. maybe you should just merge stuff into sanity and we can iterate around it later. i don't think it needs a committee :) | 03:49 |
| clarkb | in our case just copying the cache is fine | 03:49 |
| clarkb | just dont make it default behavior and everyone is happy? | 03:50 |
| greghaynes | ianw: heh | 03:51 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: yea, right now we dont support copying the cache at all so youall have it disabled | 03:51 |
| ianw | clarkb: yeah, i just don't want every build having different flags and different defaults | 03:52 |
| greghaynes | ++ | 03:52 |
| greghaynes | In that vain - I was also thinking it would be nice to have a DIB_MINIMAL_SIZE or similar flag that just turned all of this stuff on | 03:53 |
| greghaynes | which infra would obviously leave off | 03:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: move nova-api meeting to Tuesday https://review.openstack.org/211104 | 03:54 |
| ianw | yeah, that can fall out of having a common set of knobs to turn, then you can define MINIMAL_SIZE as some subset of options | 03:54 |
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| harlowja_at_home | qq for folks, sooo anvil venv building works and all that, but it takes like 40 minutes, alot of pip downloading, i'm wondering if there is anyway to use the pip cache that infra has? somehow? | 03:56 |
| harlowja_at_home | http://logs.openstack.org/01/211401/2/check/gate-anvil-venv-bare-trusty/6e4faa6/console.html#_2015-08-11_02_28_36_167 (where all this happens) | 03:56 |
| harlowja_at_home | is there like a setting or something that can be applied ? | 03:57 |
| ianw | harlowja_at_home ... hmm, i'd think that pip was setup to point to the internal caches on your build images | 03:57 |
| harlowja_at_home | hmmm | 03:57 |
| harlowja_at_home | possibly, maybe can add some more logging in to verify | 03:58 |
| harlowja_at_home | let me do that, see what happens | 03:58 |
| ianw | harlowja_at_home: yeah, https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/nodepool/scripts/configure_mirror.sh should have run, and so pip.conf should have the right thing | 04:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | kk | 04:01 |
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| harlowja_at_home | thx ianw will add some logging in to make sure | 04:01 |
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| chen12 | hi infra, I have create a new project, as you can see from here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207050/. From the document, now I need to ask you guys to add me to project groups: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#update-the-gerrit-group-members. Anyone can help me ? | 04:06 |
| clarkb | its more likely slow due to compiking not network latency | 04:06 |
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| greghaynes | Is it not using wheels? | 04:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable the same log + console uploading as the anvil-rpm builder https://review.openstack.org/211414 | 04:10 |
| harlowja_at_home | ianw, guess i do need ^ for that those logs to be captured, ha | 04:10 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes we dont have prebuilt wheels for c linked thibgs | 04:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Enable the same log + console uploading as the anvil-rpm builder https://review.openstack.org/211414 | 05:00 |
| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: midonet: Update ML2 job https://review.openstack.org/211420 | 05:01 |
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| harlowja_at_home | ianw, cool, ya looks like mirror getting used, http://logs.openstack.org/13/211413/1/check/gate-anvil-venv-bare-trusty/d15c212/output/ (lots of install logs, ha) | 05:31 |
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| tchaypo | Nakato: have you seen https://github.com/timothyb89/stackviz ? | 05:57 |
| Nakato | tchaypo: I haven't | 05:57 |
| tchaypo | chen12: I *think* that the mechanism for adding you to a group would be to update the files in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/ | 05:59 |
| tchaypo | to list your group and to set the ACLs on your repo | 06:00 |
| tchaypo | chen12: so although you won’t be able to approve the change, I think you should probably be able to propose a change to that repo for infra to accept | 06:00 |
| tchaypo | Nakato: it’s something I’d like to look at tomorrow; it seems to overlap with some of the requirements from https://review.openstack.org/192253 so I’d like to htink about ways we can avoid duplicationg functionality | 06:01 |
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| chen12 | tchaypo, o. still confusing. what change should I submit >? | 06:02 |
| tchaypo | chen12: you’ve exceeded the bounds of my understanding :) | 06:02 |
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| chen12 | tchaypo, you said " I think you should probably be able to propose a change to that repo for infra to accept" => what change should I propose ? | 06:03 |
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| tchaypo | I don’t know | 06:05 |
| tchaypo | I’m not familiar with the files | 06:05 |
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| tchaypo | there’s a directory called gerrit that has a projects.yaml - I think your project is listed there. Beside that, there’s a directory called ACLs | 06:05 |
| tchaypo | I think you’ll want to make a file inside the acls directory to define your group, and then refer to that file in projects.yaml, but I don’t know the specifics of what you need to do | 06:05 |
| chen12 | tchaypo, that's sounds like the previous step, which I already did. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207050/ | 06:06 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/210988 | 06:06 |
| tchaypo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208430/ looks like it might be similar to what you need to do, perhaps | 06:06 |
| tchaypo | I found that by looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-infra/project-config+file:gerrit/projects.yaml,n,z | 06:06 |
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| tchaypo | Sorry I can’t be more help, this isn’t an area I’m too familiar with | 06:07 |
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| chen12 | tchaypo, o. thanks for trying. I guess I have to keep asking. :) | 06:08 |
| tchaypo | chen12: yep, it does sound similar | 06:08 |
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| tchaypo | but looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207050/8/gerrit/projects.yaml - there’s no acl-config line for your new project. | 06:08 |
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| tchaypo | but you do have an acl-config file - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207050/8/gerrit/acls/openstack/devstack-plugin-hdfs.config | 06:09 |
| tchaypo | maybe there’s something that automatically reads that file? | 06:09 |
| tchaypo | or possibly I’m way off track and there’s something else entirely that needs to happen :( | 06:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add DIB_KEEP_PACKAGE_CACHE variable https://review.openstack.org/208321 | 06:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add DIB_USE_PACKAGE_CACHE variable https://review.openstack.org/211434 | 06:11 |
| ianw | greghaynes: ^ been staring at these too long, but i think it's about right | 06:11 |
| chen12 | tchaypo, my guess is for projects do not list "acl-config" explicit would use acl/${project}.conf directly. the reason https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208430/5/gerrit/projects.yaml need to set acl-config is because the file name is different with the project name | 06:13 |
| andrey-mp | ianw: please, could you check my patchset - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211181/ it allows me to move futher with stable/kilo testing/fixing | 06:14 |
| tchaypo | chen12: that sounds quite plausible.. and it leaves me as confused as you about what to do next | 06:15 |
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| ianw | andrey-mp: lgtm ,thanks | 06:29 |
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| andrey-mp | ianw: thank you! | 06:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: remove branch limiting for ec2api functional jobs. https://review.openstack.org/211181 | 06:34 |
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| deepakcs | any -infra cores around ? | 06:45 |
| chen12 | deepakcs, thanks! | 06:45 |
| deepakcs | chen12: i believe clarkb anteaya fungi can help u get added as admin to the openstack/devstack-plugin-hdfs project | 06:46 |
| deepakcs | mkoderer too ^^ | 06:46 |
| Clint | jeblair: how should presentty react to these sorts of transitions? http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/ref/rst/restructuredtext.html#transitions | 06:47 |
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| jhesketh | deepakcs: what's up | 06:50 |
| jhesketh | you just need adding to the project? | 06:50 |
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| chen12 | jhesketh, hi, deepakcs is asking questions for me | 06:51 |
| jhesketh | chen12: right, as in you need to be added as core? | 06:52 |
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| chen12 | jhesketh, yes. I have create a new project, as you can see from here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207050/. From the document, now I need to ask you guys to add me to project groups: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#update-the-gerrit-group-members. | 06:52 |
| jhesketh | chen12: yep, no problem, I've added you to the groups | 06:54 |
| chen12 | jhesketh, o! | 06:55 |
| chen12 | jhesketh, Thanks! | 06:55 |
| jhesketh | no trouble :-) | 06:56 |
| loquacities | dhellmann: ping | 06:59 |
| deepakcs | jhesketh: thanks, chen12 njoy! | 06:59 |
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| loquacities | or lifeless, are you around? | 07:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jeepyb: Separate the fetch remotes log dir and file https://review.openstack.org/192187 | 07:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-logrotate: Require logrotate::file names not be paths https://review.openstack.org/202316 | 07:25 |
| lifeless | loquacities: o/ | 07:25 |
| loquacities | oh hi! | 07:26 |
| loquacities | can you please help me? | 07:26 |
| loquacities | i'm trying ot follow these instructions: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#set-up-supervisors-for-your-project | 07:26 |
| loquacities | it seems we need to add openstack-release as a sub team to openstack-doc-core | 07:26 |
| loquacities | (this is because openstack-doc-core is the driver for openstackdocstheme) | 07:27 |
| loquacities | you're a member of openstack-release, are you able to propose it as a sub-team to openstack-doc-core? | 07:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Evgeny Antyshev proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Check if grub2 rpm is already installed https://review.openstack.org/211124 | 07:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dawid Malinowski proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Adds Cloudbees folder plugin support https://review.openstack.org/180185 | 07:32 |
| loquacities | lifeless: stepping afk for a moment, bbs | 07:32 |
| eantyshev | pabelanger, I've updated commit message with a reference to failure context in dib log file (https://review.openstack.org/211124) | 07:32 |
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| lifeless | loquacities: you need an admin-of not a member-of | 07:43 |
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| lifeless | loquacities: - I'm only member-of openstack-release, so can't add it | 07:44 |
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| loquacities | lifeless: ah, bummer | 07:44 |
| loquacities | ok, thanks | 07:44 |
| loquacities | looks like only thierry can do it, then | 07:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrei V. Ostapenko proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move from stackforge/magnetodb to openstack/magnetodb https://review.openstack.org/203524 | 08:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrei V. Ostapenko proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Changes jobs description for MagnetoDB https://review.openstack.org/204478 | 08:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: midonet: Update ML2 job https://review.openstack.org/211420 | 08:43 |
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| anteaya | so it looks like taron's internship is almost over if I can count to 6 from July 7th: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2015-07-07.log.html#t2015-07-07T20:00:24 | 08:53 |
| anteaya | anyone know the status? | 08:54 |
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| pelix | waynr: thanks, much obliged for the reviews, they've been hanging around for too long ;) | 08:58 |
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| odyssey4me | can we please get some eyeballs on https://review.openstack.org/210498 - currently all our docs patches are stalled thanks to a skip rule :/ | 09:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Start using local replication features from gerrit module https://review.openstack.org/210800 | 09:43 |
| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: Allow to specify a different jenkins default https://review.openstack.org/211481 | 09:46 |
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| mescanef | hi! to be able to publish specs on specs.openstack.org the project needs to meet the requirements specified in http://governance.openstack.org/reference/new-projects-requirements.html? | 09:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/glean: Make hostname writing play by the rules https://review.openstack.org/211037 | 10:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/glean: Stop passing args around https://review.openstack.org/211036 | 10:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/glean: Make a function for getting a sys/class/net value https://review.openstack.org/211033 | 10:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/glean: Refactor get_sys_interfaces https://review.openstack.org/211032 | 10:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/glean: Factor out args from finish_files https://review.openstack.org/211035 | 10:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/glean: Extract sys/class/net processing into class https://review.openstack.org/211034 | 10:18 |
| mordred | GheRivero: thanks for the reviews! Spamap, greghaynes: ^^ | 10:18 |
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| mordred | clarkb, Shrews: we don't use openstack_cloud in nodepool on purpose - and one of the reasons for the stepwise changes to the OpenStackCloud constructor is because nodepool does not use it | 10:22 |
| mordred | but - it SHOULD work currently, and then when we release shade to ignore the keyword args and only use the cloud_config passed in, the calling construct in nodepool _should_ just work | 10:23 |
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| mordred | however, it's possible we didn't get the upgrade path right (oops) | 10:24 |
| mordred | so I agree with crinkle's patch | 10:25 |
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| Shrews | mordred: ack. i think nodepool+shade integration tests need to be developed | 11:14 |
| Shrews | post haste! | 11:15 |
| Shrews | also, morning all | 11:15 |
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| notnownikki | morning :) quick little review from me, running it in our system and it makes the puppet apply tests nicer to read https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211249/ | 11:18 |
| mordred | Shrews: totally agree | 11:18 |
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| Shrews | mordred: welcome back to the crazy, btw | 11:20 |
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| mordred | Shrews: dude, totally in a jungle in Bali | 11:21 |
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| Shrews | mordred: /me jealous | 11:21 |
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| Shrews | mordred: still there? i thought you were back | 11:22 |
| mordred | Shrews: earlier today I went to a local doctor for an ear infection. I have all the local fun! | 11:22 |
| mordred | Shrews: just got here, actually. back in US on Sunday | 11:22 |
| Shrews | heh | 11:23 |
| Clint | try not to die | 11:23 |
| mordred | Clint: I mean ... that's kinda hard | 11:24 |
| mordred | Clint: I'm just drinking so I don't notice | 11:24 |
| Clint | fair | 11:25 |
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| markus_z | Nova's bug review day tomorrow would benefit if this merges: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210481/ | 13:08 |
| markus_z | Would be great if someone with +2's could make that happen | 13:09 |
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| markus_z | fungi: Thanks! | 13:35 |
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| pabelanger | eantyshev: great, thanks | 13:40 |
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| yolanda | hi there, any idea about why project_config expects branch to be passed as a facter parameter, instead of just a parameter in the module? | 13:49 |
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| pabelanger | jeblair: think we can land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205696/ this morning? That is the last step for puppet-httpd migration. | 13:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-project_config: Allow to define project_config branch from parameter https://review.openstack.org/211584 | 13:59 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: i'll approve it if you're around to keep an eye on the puppet apply and test stuff out once it hits | 14:10 |
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| fungi | yolanda: no idea why facts were used for that, though git blame might shed some light on it if you can find the commit message | 14:11 |
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| fungi | yolanda: afaik we don't use special branches of project-config, we only have one (master) | 14:11 |
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| yolanda | clarkb did that | 14:13 |
| yolanda | i added a change to also parameterize that on the class | 14:13 |
| yolanda | consume from facter if present, but if not, allow to parameterize it, instead of falling into master | 14:13 |
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| fungi | oh, maybe that's for making it testable in an integration test? | 14:14 |
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| yolanda | i don't know about the reason for using facter between parameters as done in another modules | 14:14 |
| yolanda | for downstream is easier if we can just rely on a parameter | 14:14 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: ready here | 14:16 |
| fungi | fire in the hole | 14:16 |
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| Clint | a short story by elmore leonard | 14:17 |
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| fungi | also a term used in mining and theater for live explosive charges | 14:18 |
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| fungi | pending detonation | 14:19 |
| fungi | such as pabelanger's change i just approved | 14:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Remove puppet-apache now that we have migrated https://review.openstack.org/205696 | 14:23 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: buuut is passed in the gate | 14:26 |
| fungi | pabelanger: yep, just making sure everyone takes cover in case our web services all asplode | 14:26 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: do you have a minute to check hpcloud and see if they are rolling fedora22 images? | 14:34 |
| pabelanger | i don't have an account | 14:34 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: i'll look | 14:42 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: no luck. they have base images for f18-21 but no f22 | 14:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added npm publish job. https://review.openstack.org/199715 | 14:49 |
| pabelanger | fungi: thanks | 14:51 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: Fatfingered a git commit on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199715/ , managed to fix it. | 15:04 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: when you have a moment, review 211604, interested in your feedback about setting up dnf cache | 15:10 |
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| rcarrillocruz | fungi: just got my atc pass :-) thx | 15:11 |
| Swanson | hemna: ping | 15:12 |
| fungi | rcarrillocruz: oh, were you not in the first batch? | 15:12 |
| Swanson | wrong windo | 15:12 |
| Swanson | w | 15:12 |
| rcarrillocruz | didn't get no | 15:12 |
| HenryG | Is there a way to tell if a repo counts towards ATC passes? | 15:12 |
| rcarrillocruz | all good now | 15:12 |
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| fungi | rcarrillocruz: oh, i see. according to https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:rcc+status:merged,n,z you didn't have any changes merge between april 22 and july 14. the date range for the first batch was april 30 to july 8 | 15:13 |
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| rcarrillocruz | yeah, that explains, haven't been able to merge much stuff this cycle due to dayjob unfortunately | 15:14 |
| fungi | rcarrillocruz: cool, just making sure the script wasn't broken | 15:14 |
| fungi | HenryG: it has to be listed in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/projects.yaml (though as of today's batch, the namespace no longer has to match) | 15:14 |
| rcarrillocruz | fungi: out of curiosity, you run gerrit on RAX, don't you? | 15:14 |
| fungi | rcarrillocruz: we do, yes | 15:15 |
| rcarrillocruz | i'm running into a non deterministic issue bringing up gerrit on HP Cloud | 15:15 |
| rcarrillocruz | that is driving me nuts | 15:15 |
| rcarrillocruz | http://paste.openstack.org/show/412571/ | 15:15 |
| rcarrillocruz | all sorts of fun | 15:15 |
| rcarrillocruz | it will come up randomly | 15:15 |
| rcarrillocruz | or not | 15:15 |
| clarkb | rcarrillocruz: we stopped running it there because they don't let you send email and email is important to gerrit | 15:15 |
| rcarrillocruz | or come up after 10min | 15:15 |
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| rcarrillocruz | and there's nothing wrong with the gerrit war, cos in a server i have at home i can bring up bring down immediately | 15:16 |
| HenryG | fungi: thanks. Do the "deliverables" repos count? | 15:16 |
| fungi | HenryG: yes, those are in fact the only repos | 15:16 |
| rcarrillocruz | something's going on with the instances that somehow affects gerrit to not start | 15:16 |
| fungi | HenryG: all repos in that file are in deliverables sets | 15:17 |
| HenryG | fungi: oh, right, got it, thanks! | 15:17 |
| clarkb | rcarrillocruz: how big of an instance are ou using? the cputime on anthing smallerthan 8vcpu 30GB Ram is pretty bad there | 15:17 |
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| fungi | rcarrillocruz: does it log anything to the gerrit error log when it fails to start? | 15:17 |
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| clarkb | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208767/ is related to swift logs and should get us passing through non log files from swift | 15:18 |
| rcarrillocruz | nothing | 15:18 |
| rcarrillocruz | nothing on gerrit error_log | 15:18 |
| rcarrillocruz | nothing syslog | 15:18 |
| rcarrillocruz | very very weird | 15:18 |
| waynr | pelix: no problem, i am happy to help :) | 15:18 |
| clarkb | rcarrillocruz: have you strace'd it? | 15:18 |
| rcarrillocruz | clarkb: i'm using 2xlarge | 15:18 |
| rcarrillocruz | yep, the strace shows a ton of futex ETIMEDOUT messages | 15:19 |
| fungi | rcarrillocruz: anything unusual about the filesystem you're running it on? | 15:19 |
| rcarrillocruz | but don't know how to interpret that... | 15:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Raise minimum required neutronclient to >=2.4.0 https://review.openstack.org/211174 | 15:19 |
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| fungi | rcarrillocruz: local or remote database? | 15:20 |
| rcarrillocruz | clarkb: that's interesting, cos i saw a post about someone claiming java gerrit issues on ESX instances...so i wonder if it's because the cpu allocation i get on my instance may not be good enough | 15:20 |
| rcarrillocruz | dunno | 15:20 |
| rcarrillocruz | fungi: local mysql db | 15:20 |
| rcarrillocruz | fungi: h2 db works fine, it's just with mysql | 15:20 |
| * rcarrillocruz goes check high performance flavors | 15:22 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Set up file conditions for os-loganalyze https://review.openstack.org/208767 | 15:29 |
| rcarrillocruz | so | 15:29 |
| rcarrillocruz | notnownikki just put me on the right track, ENTROPY! | 15:30 |
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| rcarrillocruz | haveged for the win! | 15:30 |
| notnownikki | yes, too little entropy and gerrit's ssh stuff can't start | 15:31 |
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| notnownikki | so generate some, and it's happy :) | 15:31 |
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| clarkb | are you using the bouncycastle libs? | 15:32 |
| notnownikki | i was, yes | 15:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Dawid Malinowski proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Adds Cloudbees folder plugin support https://review.openstack.org/180185 | 15:33 |
| clarkb | I wonder if it is more discerning about the source of entropy | 15:33 |
| notnownikki | i just blindly took the suggested defaults | 15:33 |
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| clarkb | I think we test git review without bouncy castle gerrit on hpcloud just fine | 15:33 |
| clarkb | oh wait haveged is part of our images nevermind | 15:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Dawid Malinowski proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Adds Cloudbees folder plugin support https://review.openstack.org/180185 | 15:34 |
| notnownikki | that explains things :) | 15:34 |
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| notnownikki | we were just using plain ol' trusty images | 15:35 |
| rcarrillocruz | clarkb: yes, i was installing bouncycastle | 15:36 |
| rcarrillocruz | so, we should really put haveged in downstream | 15:36 |
| notnownikki | yep | 15:36 |
| rcarrillocruz | notnownikki: yolanda, timrc ^ | 15:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Ensure tests run with ConfigParser object https://review.openstack.org/179822 | 15:37 |
| timrc | Agreed, though last I asked a security expert (which was admittedly a few moons ago) they were weary of trusting havaged. | 15:37 |
| timrc | Apparently others are using it to great effect though, so ++ | 15:37 |
| clarkb | we use it for testing so what security :) | 15:37 |
| notnownikki | lol true | 15:38 |
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| jeblair | Clint: regarding transitions; i don't have a strong feeling -- possibly just an extra blank line? maybe a centered type ornament? -=- how would you want to use them in a slide? | 15:40 |
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| Clint | jeblair: well, i'm struggling to find some way to force some vertical whitespace between code blocks | 15:41 |
| Clint | so in this case any reasonable separator would do | 15:41 |
| jeblair | Clint: ah ok, so just adding a blank line would help here | 15:41 |
| * Clint nods. | 15:42 | |
| jeblair | krotscheck: +3 | 15:44 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: danke! | 15:48 |
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| krotscheck | Anyone around to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210601/ , so that we can trigger the npm patch chain? | 15:49 |
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| jeblair | krotscheck: you'll want to give it a good 30 mins after merging for full effectiveness. and not right after swimming. | 15:50 |
| anteaya | do we have a status update on hound? | 15:50 |
| anteaya | is taron still around? | 15:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add trigger-with-no-params for join-trigger https://review.openstack.org/206271 | 15:50 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: 24 hours is probably best :) | 15:51 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: Especially since there's a schedule{} task in there. | 15:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Emma Barber proposed openstack-infra/puppet-hound: Configure and run apache on top of hound https://review.openstack.org/211640 | 15:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Skip non-doc jobs for neutron and nova for all branches https://review.openstack.org/211642 | 15:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Benjamin Koep proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added gitlab plugin https://review.openstack.org/211491 | 15:52 |
| anteaya | well look at that | 15:53 |
| anteaya | taron: are you about, how is the hound coming along? | 15:53 |
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| taron | anteaya: i've been around, but turns out I don't handle working from home well. anyway, that commit should be enough to get it running in conjunction with the jeepyb bits that mordred wrote, though upstream changes still need to happen | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Skip non-doc and test-only jobs for for all branches https://review.openstack.org/211642 | 15:55 |
| anteaya | taron: I read your blog post, that is good you have learned that about yourself | 15:56 |
| odyssey4me | anteaya it'd be great if you could facilitate getting https://review.openstack.org/210498 reviewed for us | 15:56 |
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| * taron should probably blog more as well | 15:56 | |
| anteaya | odyssey4me: sorry in two meetings atm | 15:56 |
| anteaya | taron: well you are doing well with what you have, don't get down on yourself | 15:56 |
| anteaya | taron: celebrate your accomplishments | 15:56 |
| taron | yeah for the moment I'm just glad I was able to admit that to myself | 15:57 |
| anteaya | taron: for instance you are still here! | 15:57 |
| anteaya | yay | 15:57 |
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| anteaya | taron: that is a big step, well done | 15:57 |
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| anteaya | taron: some people have difficulty figuring taht out for themselves, yet you did, well done | 15:57 |
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| taron | luckily there's also no shortage of coffee shops in portland :P | 15:58 |
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| fungi | it definitely takes some discipline to work from home. i doubt i would be able either were it not for decades of jobs which needed me to continue working for hours even after i got home from the office | 15:59 |
| rcarrillocruz | hmm, yeah | 16:00 |
| StevenK | fungi: Out of interest, why did they require that? | 16:00 |
| taron | yeah, if I found myself doing this again I think I'd invest in some coworking space - I'm sure I could find the discipline in me eventually but better to have another spot to go just in case | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Upgrade grafana.o.o to 2.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/209218 | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Bump puppetlabs-apt to 2.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/209195 | 16:00 |
| mrmartin | fungi: \o/ | 16:00 |
| rcarrillocruz | and then you get non-IT people that ask you 'you work from home?', and they think you are playing videogames all day | 16:00 |
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| fungi | StevenK: understaffed with little budget, and a job market that didn't make it easy to find something else | 16:01 |
| rcarrillocruz | i work far more since I switched full time as remote compared to office | 16:01 |
| anteaya | taron: not everyone can work from home, don't expect it of yourself | 16:01 |
| StevenK | rcarrillocruz: Yeah, I swear my mother thinks I just "play on the internet" and somehow get paid for it. | 16:01 |
| anteaya | taron: some people need an office | 16:01 |
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| anteaya | taron: just notice what you need and get that for yourself | 16:01 |
| rcarrillocruz | StevenK: ++ | 16:01 |
| * taron really appreciates the words of encouragement | 16:02 | |
| anteaya | taron: don't compare yourself to others and think that you aren't doing it right if you aren't doing it their way | 16:02 |
| anteaya | taron: of course :) | 16:02 |
| clarkb | reality is you burp babies all day | 16:02 |
| rcarrillocruz | otoh, if i had an office close by, i'd go there twice a week | 16:02 |
| rcarrillocruz | it's good to move around | 16:02 |
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| rcarrillocruz | especially when you have kids | 16:02 |
| rcarrillocruz | LOL | 16:02 |
| mrmartin | it depends on the level of context switch, sometimes working from home is awesome | 16:02 |
| anteaya | clarkb: a gaseous reality | 16:02 |
| fungi | mrmartin: oh, i never sent out a maintenance notification. how far in advance should we warn people, or should we just go ahead and take it offline | 16:02 |
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| mrmartin | go ahead | 16:02 |
| clarkb | StevenK we need a time good for you (and carlos) to upgrade zanata dev | 16:03 |
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| clarkb | StevenK any suggestions maybe 0100ish utc some day? | 16:03 |
| mrmartin | fungi: you can find the maintenance page in openstack-infra/askbot-theme repo | 16:03 |
| StevenK | clarkb: Carlos and I share a timezone, so we probably need to make sure he doesn't have any meetings on. | 16:03 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: yep, i was just looking at that. did you have the redirect syntax worked out for the apache vhost config? | 16:04 |
| StevenK | clarkb: But sadly, we don't share a timezone today since I'm in Taiwan. For approximately the next four hours anyway. | 16:04 |
| fungi | mrmartin: i'll go ahead and send out a quick e-mail saying we're taking it offline for a couple hours for the upgrade | 16:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Thiago Paiva Brito proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds python-oneviewclient project https://review.openstack.org/211301 | 16:04 |
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| mrmartin | fungi: what you think about disabling the vhost by moving out from enabled-sites directory? and move the maintentance page to default siteroot at /var/www ? | 16:05 |
| StevenK | clarkb: I think 0100Z sounds like a good plan -- we probably need to announce it as we have opened it up to translators to kick the tires. | 16:05 |
| fungi | mrmartin: i don't think that will redirect all requests to the file though. i'll figure out the redirect in just a moment | 16:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Benjamin Koep proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add slack notification support, largely inspired by hipchat module https://review.openstack.org/136627 | 16:06 |
| clarkb | StevenK yuo I asked them ib the meeting last week and tgey said pick a time and let us kbiw. so if we can get carlos to chime in first we can go ahead with that | 16:06 |
| mrmartin | fungi: rename maintenance.html to index.html and move it to /var/www/html | 16:06 |
| StevenK | jeblair, fungi: Can I guilt one of you into reviewing https://review.openstack.org/207729 against jeepyb? | 16:06 |
| clarkb | any day preference? tomorrow is bad for me as I am supposed to go buy a bigger car | 16:07 |
| clarkb | maybe thursday (your friday) | 16:07 |
| fungi | mrmartin: but that will only serve it for requests of the site root right, not for any deep links? | 16:07 |
| StevenK | clarkb: I am on plane effectively all day "tomorrow" | 16:07 |
| mrmartin | fungi: yeah, no deep links | 16:07 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: i'll need to work out a redirect to send .* to / | 16:07 |
| mrmartin | for deep links we need a .htaccess really, I don't know how will that affect the google bots | 16:08 |
| clarkb | StevenK perfect :) so day after ir your mobday? | 16:08 |
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| StevenK | clarkb: Which makes it your Sunday, and that makes me sad. | 16:08 |
| fungi | mrmartin: it's just temporary, so i wouldn't worry about search engines | 16:08 |
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| clarkb | stevenk its ok I have no life regardless | 16:08 |
| fungi | i'll set it as a non-permanent redirect | 16:08 |
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| mrmartin | maybe an 503 html response code can help us too | 16:09 |
| StevenK | clarkb: It's 0208 in Australia, and I'm forcing myself to stay awake because my plane departs Taiwan at stupid o'clock, shall I send him an e-mail and CC you, to make sure he is meeting-less and at his desk? | 16:10 |
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| StevenK | (What kind of airline schedules an international flight for 0600 and says "O HAI! Do be here 3 hours earlier!" | 16:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Benjamin Koep proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add slack notification support, largely inspired by hipchat module https://review.openstack.org/136627 | 16:11 |
| clarkb | StevenK that would be great | 16:11 |
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| jeblair | StevenK: yeah, i can review that | 16:11 |
| fungi | mrmartin: notification sent to the dev and community mailing lists. working on the redirect now | 16:11 |
| * taron always gets there 3h early for international flights, but that's usually canada->us where you have to go through customs at the airport before getting on the plane | 16:12 | |
| StevenK | taron: I always do it for Sydney, but Sydney Airport gets stupidly busy | 16:12 |
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| StevenK | taron: Oh, and I mean Sydney, Australia, not Nova Scotia :-) | 16:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Bump puppetlabs-apt to 2.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/209195 | 16:13 |
| taron | yeah I usually fly out of edmonton in which case my being early is probably more paranoia than validated | 16:13 |
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| timrc | clarkb, I sort of miss the burping baby days... now I'm in the "What's in my son's hand? Oh a cat turd... great" days. | 16:13 |
| taron | vancouver, on the other hand... | 16:14 |
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| clarkb | timrc but do they let you sleep at that stage? | 16:14 |
| anteaya | taron: you live in alberta? | 16:14 |
| timrc | clarkb, It's still non-deterministic. | 16:14 |
| clarkb | I thibk I got 3 hours of sleep yesterday \o/ | 16:14 |
| clarkb | its >0 | 16:14 |
| anteaya | clarkb: yay | 16:15 |
| taron | anteaya: nah, family up there though. only one of my cousins who didn't graduate from the u of a actually | 16:15 |
| anteaya | taron: ah | 16:15 |
| anteaya | I think a school mate of mine teaches there | 16:15 |
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| timrc | clarkb, My daughter, who just turned 4, has the bad habit of sneaking into bed with us and then sleeping perpendicular to my wife and I so one of us gets kicked in the face. My son, who's about 15 months old, is a decent sleeper, but still randomly wakes up and he's up by 6:30AM sharp. Every day. | 16:16 |
| taron | ah, cool | 16:16 |
| anteaya | yup: http://www.oncology.med.ualberta.ca/AboutUs/FacultyMembers/Pages/Medical-Oncology.aspx?P=27 | 16:16 |
| anteaya | never looked up his page before | 16:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jeepyb: Add a register-zanata-projects script https://review.openstack.org/207729 | 16:16 |
| anteaya | makes me laugh | 16:16 |
| taron | heh | 16:17 |
| zaro | morning | 16:17 |
| anteaya | timrc: nice | 16:17 |
| anteaya | morning zaro | 16:17 |
| timrc | clarkb, Hopefully you'll start getting more sleep soon-ish, though. I was always envious of my friends who had infants and were like "Oh yeah, our kid sleeps great, I'm getting 12 hours!! | 16:17 |
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| timrc | zaro, Hi :) Feel like reviewing a gearman-plugin change? *bats eyelashes* | 16:18 |
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| StevenK | Hopefully the hotel doesn't block submission ... | 16:18 |
| jeblair | anteaya, fungi: i'm still going back and forth with foundation support on the eventbrite thing. | 16:19 |
| anteaya | jeblair: nice | 16:19 |
| fungi | jeblair: yikes | 16:19 |
| StevenK | clarkb: Sigh, ignoring the terrible wrapping, email sent | 16:19 |
| timrc | zaro, I am to Princess Leia as you are to Obi Wan Kenobi as gearman-plugin is to death star plans. In other words, I think you're my only hope of getting this change landed :) | 16:19 |
| jeblair | anteaya, fungi: allison said it didn't seem to be required for her. Kendall Waters (who i don't think i know) patiently explained to me that it was not password protected, it just wanted me to create an account. | 16:20 |
| StevenK | jeblair: Thanks for the +2 +A | 16:20 |
| anteaya | timrc: ha ha ha | 16:20 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: can anyone confirm your experience? | 16:20 |
| clarkb | jeblair I can confirm I didnt have to make ana ccount if that is the problem you have | 16:20 |
| anteaya | jeblair: or are they just trying to tell you you don't see what you see | 16:20 |
| clarkb | it asked me after reg to continue and do that but wasnt required | 16:20 |
| anteaya | well my understanding is that jeblair has successfully interacted with eventbrite previously never having been forced to create an account | 16:21 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yeah, that's what has happened for all of the other hundreds of times i have registered for something | 16:21 |
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| jeblair | but this time not so much | 16:21 |
| StevenK | Hmmm, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208811/ was approved before that jeepyb patch was approved, does it need a recheck to get kicked off? | 16:21 |
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| anteaya | but for some reason, when trying to sign up to attend the ops meetup it is demanding a password | 16:21 |
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| anteaya | and support is telling him he isn't experienceing what he is experiencing | 16:22 |
| StevenK | I think I created an account when signing up for Atlanta as the path of least resistance | 16:22 |
| mrmartin | jeblair: https://www.openstack.org/foundation/staff | 16:23 |
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| clarkb | also they email me every couple months with things to do in atlanta | 16:24 |
| anteaya | how considerate | 16:24 |
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| StevenK | clarkb: There are things to do in Atlanta? | 16:25 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi, anteaya: http://imgur.com/hzcb6lJ | 16:25 |
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| clarkb | StevenK supposedly | 16:25 |
| jeblair | that's a redacted version of the screenshot i sent to them | 16:25 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi, anteaya: notice the red * next to 'create password' | 16:25 |
| jeblair | is that anything like what you see (when not logged in?) | 16:26 |
| anteaya | I see that | 16:26 |
| anteaya | let me see if I can find the reg page again and try | 16:26 |
| timrc | Speaking of jeepyb... I have a change that's been stewing for a number of weeks ;) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188628/ | 16:26 |
| jeblair | http://www.eventbrite.com/e/openstack-ops-mid-cycle-meetup-tickets-17703258924 | 16:26 |
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| timrc | Who can I trick (sweet talk) into giving the final +2? | 16:26 |
| jeblair | anteaya, clarkb, fungi: ^ | 16:26 |
| timrc | Er +A. | 16:26 |
| jeblair | timrc: whew, i'm already tagged out on that one :) | 16:27 |
| timrc | jeblair, :P | 16:27 |
| clarkb | jeblair no password forme | 16:27 |
| clarkb | name emailjob info dietary restrictions | 16:27 |
| jeblair | clarkb: wow nice | 16:28 |
| anteaya | create password has a red star form me at taht link | 16:28 |
| clarkb | there is a little box above wveryrhibg saying sign in or sign up if you want that | 16:28 |
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| clarkb | maybe califorbia has a new law about requiring user accounts for "tracking purposes"? | 16:28 |
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| clarkb | (I shouldnt give california ahard time :P) | 16:28 |
| anteaya | I'm in canada | 16:28 |
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| anteaya | firefox and chrome, I see the red star beside password | 16:29 |
| anteaya | but I didn't when I first signed up | 16:29 |
| anteaya | which was the first day it was announced | 16:29 |
| zaro | timrc: will take a look. i can't decide which but i guess that would make either clarkb or jeblair yoda :) | 16:29 |
| taron | red star next to it for me as well | 16:30 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 16:30 |
| timrc | zaro, I like wear this analogy is going... | 16:30 |
| timrc | er where* | 16:30 |
| * timrc implements sed-replace for IRC. | 16:30 | |
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| jeblair | yeah, i've tried ff, chromium, and just disabled ABP and no change so far | 16:30 |
| StevenK | TIL timrc wears analogies ... | 16:30 |
| clarkb | there is no try only CAN_DO ? | 16:30 |
| jesusaurus | clarkb: ++ | 16:31 |
| anteaya | clarkb: can you register jeblair? | 16:31 |
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| clarkb | hah probably | 16:31 |
| jeblair | eventbrite registration as a service | 16:31 |
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| timrc | clarkb wins. | 16:31 |
| jeblair | clarkb: be sure to put something funny in the 'job title' field | 16:32 |
| StevenK | "Chief Hat Wearer" | 16:32 |
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| timrc | zaro, Thanks. I really appreciate it. | 16:32 |
| clarkb | oh wait wow | 16:32 |
| clarkb | so I checked on my phone and no password there. Hopped over to desktop to register jeblair and now it wants a password | 16:33 |
| clarkb | so uh let me try register you on my phone | 16:33 |
| timrc | Making zuul node label aware is a rather tricky thing to do, but I'm confident that being able to submit zuul metrics per-node-type per-job will allow us to make some important insights. | 16:33 |
| jeblair | clarkb: wait | 16:33 |
| jeblair | clarkb: let me try on my phone | 16:33 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: ok | 16:33 |
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| clarkb | it is amazing how many problems emailing yourself can solve | 16:34 |
| fungi | mrmartin: i used this for the maintenance page http://paste.openstack.org/show/412586/ | 16:34 |
| fungi | mrmartin: i'm working on the backup/transfer to the new server now | 16:35 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, fungi, anteaya, taron: succesfully registered via FF-mobile on phone | 16:37 |
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| anteaya | yay | 16:37 |
| fungi | that's a strange and disheartening workaround | 16:37 |
| taron | indeed | 16:37 |
| mrmartin | jeblair: try to change the user-agent of your browser to a mobile-one | 16:37 |
| mrmartin | maybe eventbrite is serving something else for mobiles | 16:38 |
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| mrmartin | fungi: maintenance page is there, but without the css. I think it is not loading the http links from the https site | 16:39 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: that's likely. browsers do that for security reasons | 16:39 |
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| mrmartin | may I ask you to rewrite the few http:// links to https:// in maintenance html? | 16:40 |
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| mrmartin | just the css ones | 16:40 |
| fungi | mrmartin: sure, just a sec | 16:40 |
| mrmartin | fungi: looks wunderful now | 16:41 |
| fungi | mrmartin: yep, much better! let's try to remember to get that patch in | 16:41 |
| mrmartin | I'm doing that now | 16:42 |
| fungi | i've got the backups i just made copied onto the new server and am starting to import them now | 16:43 |
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| jeblair | mrmartin: yeah, eventbrite serves different content (designed for mobile) based on user agent | 16:44 |
| mrmartin | :) | 16:44 |
| mrmartin | and they forget to develop the password feature into mobile version? nice. | 16:44 |
| StevenK | Maybe they're banking on their userbase misplaing their phone at the event anyway ... | 16:45 |
| jeblair | kendall has escalated to their eventbrite contact | 16:45 |
| anteaya | wooooo | 16:45 |
| jeblair | (though, since it was done via zendesk, i am not sure the full thread made it -- at least, i only see the most recent comment from kendall) | 16:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Marton Kiss proposed openstack-infra/askbot-theme: Refactor css and font links to https https://review.openstack.org/211664 | 16:46 |
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| jeblair | (btw, why is it that the more you pay for a request tracking system, the worse they deal with email?) | 16:46 |
| taron | \o/ | 16:46 |
| anteaya | jeblair: retorical question? | 16:47 |
| jeblair | anteaya: probably best to treat it that way, yeah. | 16:47 |
| fungi | jeblair: e-mail is so last century. now it's all about the tweetbookz | 16:47 |
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| StevenK | fungi: -1, fails to include instagram and linkedin | 16:48 |
| timrc | Santa is still using snailmail if you can believe that. | 16:48 |
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| fungi | StevenK: and friendface | 16:49 |
| StevenK | fungi: :-) | 16:49 |
| anteaya | HOH OHO | 16:50 |
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| jeblair | maybe i should snapchat the screenshot at them | 16:53 |
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| StevenK | jeblair: Giving them ten second intervals to work on the bug? | 16:53 |
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| jeblair | yep. if you can't figure it out in 10 seconds... i dunno... create a new startup? | 16:54 |
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| fungi | most startups don't last that long anyway, so sounds like a fine expiration | 16:56 |
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| anteaya | ha ha ha | 16:57 |
| anteaya | as long as the investors are happy | 16:57 |
| timrc | jeblair, fungi lol | 16:57 |
| krotscheck | Any cores have opinion on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210601/ ? It's a depends-on from the NPM patch chain. | 16:57 |
| fungi | mrmartin: migration is done, reindex is running now | 16:57 |
| timrc | I guess a company that lasts 10 seconds really does live up to the label "startup" | 16:58 |
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| anteaya | haven't even got the engine warmed up yet, done | 17:01 |
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| nibalizer | krotscheck: why the schedule resource? | 17:02 |
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| krotscheck | nibalizer: Because running npm install every 15 minutes causes an npm cache sync, which is an expensive operation. | 17:03 |
| krotscheck | And NPM upstream repo is not that stable. | 17:03 |
| nibalizer | also i don't follow the logic that causes npm to go to 2.13.4 | 17:03 |
| nibalizer | if latest is 3.x | 17:03 |
| fungi | is etherpad.o.o super, super slow right now for anyone besides me? | 17:03 |
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| nibalizer | krotscheck: how expensive? | 17:04 |
| krotscheck | nibalizer: NPM will only update itself to the latest version that will run on the installed node runtime. | 17:04 |
| nibalizer | well thats nice of it | 17:04 |
| krotscheck | The version of node installed on trusty only supports up to 2.13.4 | 17:04 |
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| jeblair | fungi: seems good to me; specific link? | 17:05 |
| krotscheck | nibalizer: As for how expensive, anywhere from 2 to 30 seconds | 17:05 |
| krotscheck | Because latency and couchdb | 17:05 |
| fungi | mrmartin: reed: the ask.openstack.org backup is now live and reindexed at 23.253.72.95 2001:4800:7815:103:be76:4eff:fe05:89f3 so check whatever you want and let me know if you see any reason i shouldn't go ahead and switch dns now | 17:05 |
| fungi | jeblair: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/askbot-trusty-migration has been nearly unresponsive for me, but it may be my browser. i'm about to restart it | 17:06 |
| nibalizer | krotscheck: so why not do it every time | 17:06 |
| nibalizer | but with an 'unless => 'npm --version | grep 2.13.4' | 17:06 |
| krotscheck | nibalizer: Why do it every time? | 17:06 |
| anteaya | odyssey4me: why are you not using the doc-job? | 17:06 |
| nibalizer | krotscheck: schedule is quite bizzare | 17:07 |
| krotscheck | nibalizer: That script line assumes that the version will never change. | 17:07 |
| nibalizer | we generaly expect all puppet resources to fire | 17:07 |
| anteaya | odyssey4me: why are you creating a doc job specific to your project? | 17:07 |
| fungi | jeblair: yeah, i think it's got to be my system | 17:07 |
| krotscheck | nibalizer: There could be a backport, or something else, or a random thing that updates the node.js version | 17:07 |
| krotscheck | nibalizer: I'm just being conservative with the update. | 17:08 |
| fungi | jeblair: aha! my cpu fan is having trouble again, so the processor has scaled itself down | 17:08 |
| odyssey4me | anteaya because we aren't ready for a normal doc job yet and our doc edits are being skipped currently | 17:08 |
| odyssey4me | so we need to get a doc job in to sort the docs out, then we can shift to a proper solution | 17:08 |
| jeblair | fungi: i told you saltwater cooling was a bad idea | 17:09 |
| odyssey4me | anteaya also, currently this fits the pattern of all our other jobs | 17:09 |
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| anteaya | odyssey4me: what is standing in your way of running a normal doc job? | 17:09 |
| fungi | jeblair: so corrosive, and the sand gets _everywhere_ | 17:09 |
| odyssey4me | anteaya we still need to grok how to use the standard jobs properly | 17:09 |
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| anteaya | odyssey4me: why don't we work on that? | 17:09 |
| StevenK | fungi: But your CPU has never been so clean! | 17:09 |
| odyssey4me | anteaya many broken bits in the docs for which we have patches already, but they can't get processed | 17:09 |
| StevenK | Also slightly sandblasted | 17:10 |
| fungi | StevenK: except i have to scrape the barnacles off it every couple months | 17:10 |
| anteaya | why can't they get processed? | 17:10 |
| anteaya | I'd rather spend time helping you learn how to use the jobs we provide rather than continuing to write custom jobs for everything | 17:10 |
| odyssey4me | anteaya because the only job we have running is being skipped because we put a skip rule in for docs - the skip rule is to prevent a full build from running whenever a doc edit is done | 17:10 |
| StevenK | I thought a recheck would be enough to kick https://review.openstack.org/208811 into the gate (it was approved before a dependent change), but alas. :-/ | 17:11 |
| odyssey4me | it used to work, but then some cleanup was done in infra and it stopped working | 17:11 |
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| anteaya | what cleanup was done in infra? | 17:11 |
| odyssey4me | anteaya no idea - all I know is that we changed nothing and it stopped doing what it did before which was a noop | 17:12 |
| odyssey4me | anteaya I need to relocate - will be back online in around 30 mins | 17:12 |
| anteaya | odyssey4me: see you then | 17:12 |
| nibalizer | krotscheck: maybe npm --version | grep 2.13 | 17:12 |
| nibalizer | ? | 17:12 |
| StevenK | nibalizer: Just out of interest, does unless use the output or exit status? If the latter, the pedant in me would prefer grep -q | 17:13 |
| nibalizer | exit status | 17:15 |
| nibalizer | I'm just spitballing here | 17:15 |
| nibalizer | I wish we could patch in an unless_match that would check a command's output for a string | 17:16 |
| nibalizer | seems like that would be useful | 17:16 |
| fungi | odyssey4me: anteaya: it looks like https://review.openstack.org/164271 added the skip. i don't see how changes to only files matching those patterns would have ever landed in your repo after that went into effect. do you have an example of one that somehow did? | 17:19 |
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| nibalizer | krotscheck: also this doesn't seem to work? | 17:21 |
| nibalizer | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12056714/ | 17:21 |
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| krotscheck | nibalizer: Your path is cached | 17:21 |
| armax | clarkb: ping | 17:22 |
| armax | I noticed that this got in: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210649 | 17:22 |
| anteaya | fungi: thanks | 17:22 |
| armax | clarkb: but that was being neglected here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199672/ | 17:22 |
| armax | clarkb: and your patch didn’t clean that up entirely | 17:22 |
| clarkb | armax gah sorry I just saw the comment when forcing ipv6 only and pushed a cleanup | 17:23 |
| clarkb | I shouldve looked harder | 17:23 |
| armax | clarkb: what do you want me to do? | 17:23 |
| armax | clarkb: abandon the patch of revise it to do the final cleanup? | 17:23 |
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| clarkb | ya if you rebase to do the additional cleanup I will push it through | 17:24 |
| armax | ok | 17:24 |
| nibalizer | krotscheck: uh this is pretty broken | 17:24 |
| nibalizer | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12056737/ | 17:24 |
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| clarkb | armax the bugs are fixed I did check them are we ok cleaning it up? | 17:25 |
| nibalizer | all 'npm' commands just end | 17:25 |
| armax | well | 17:25 |
| nibalizer | no output, error return code | 17:25 |
| armax | clarkb: at the time they were | 17:25 |
| clarkb | well | 17:25 |
| armax | the d-g gate change got forever to merge | 17:25 |
| armax | clarkb: and now we might even regressed because we no longer have teh unstable job to verify that we did not | 17:25 |
| armax | so who knows | 17:25 |
| clarkb | I need to know if we need a revert too | 17:25 |
| krotscheck | nibalizer: Ok, sorry, I am onboarding someone right now and can't respond to your questions. | 17:25 |
| armax | clarkb: at the time I filed the patch, the bugs had clearly gone | 17:26 |
| ihrachyshka | armax, but was the unstable job tested against fwaas? | 17:26 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: no | 17:26 |
| clarkb | are we seeing them again? | 17:26 |
| ihrachyshka | yeah... | 17:26 |
| ihrachyshka | we need unstable for *aas now | 17:26 |
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| clarkb | ok so this was an issue regardless | 17:28 |
| clarkb | I am happy to revert my change and do armax's when ready or move ahead fixing fwaas | 17:28 |
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| ihrachyshka | clarkb, if you can to put it top of the gate, that would be great. | 17:28 |
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| clarkb | but either way soubds like *aasis what is broken and is a gap in testing | 17:29 |
| armax | clarkb: so we’re going with a revert? | 17:29 |
| clarkb | put what at the to | 17:29 |
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| StevenK | fungi: If your CPU has decided that moving bits faster now would be excellent, can you poke at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208811/ ? | 17:29 |
| clarkb | armax I dont care, its up to you all | 17:29 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: sean has a patch to fix the instability | 17:29 |
| ihrachyshka | armax, I don't think anyone is SURE that's the one | 17:29 |
| armax | clarkb: well you do, since you filed the patch in the first place :)_ | 17:29 |
| ihrachyshka | armax, I just blindly pointed on that one as one that seems to touch code that fails in gate | 17:29 |
| clarkb | armax just as opportunistic cleanup | 17:30 |
| ihrachyshka | armax, as for devstack-gate revert, I am pretty sure it would fix the failure | 17:30 |
| clarkb | tge problem is *aas is broken | 17:30 |
| clarkb | it would be broken regardless | 17:30 |
| armax | clarkb: right | 17:30 |
| clarkb | si do we just fix it or do we revert then fix? | 17:30 |
| fungi | StevenK: wrapping up the ask.openstack.org migration now before i take my computer apart and try to hit the fan bearings with more spray oil | 17:30 |
| clarkb | thats for neutron to say | 17:30 |
| fungi | StevenK: but i'll add it to the list | 17:30 |
| armax | clarkb: but buffles me is that *aas where tested in neutron changes | 17:30 |
| armax | clarkb: so this sounds like a potential regression | 17:30 |
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| StevenK | fungi: If you want to be a teddy bear, that's fine too. I thought a recheck would toss it into the gate | 17:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Allow whitespace to be significant https://review.openstack.org/206092 | 17:31 |
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| armax | clarkb: let’s see if sc68cal’s change heal things | 17:31 |
| clarkb | oj | 17:32 |
| clarkb | er ok | 17:32 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: what about lbaas? and vpnaas? | 17:32 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: are they also unstable? | 17:32 |
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| anteaya | vpnaas is currently a mess | 17:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Drop these config switches as they are no longer being used https://review.openstack.org/199672 | 17:32 |
| anteaya | still working with dougwig and markmcclain to figure that out | 17:32 |
| armax | clarkb: ^^ | 17:32 |
| ihrachyshka | armax, we haven't seen any failures for those API tests or jobs that include it | 17:32 |
| ihrachyshka | it's just API tests and fwaas only | 17:33 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: ok | 17:33 |
| ihrachyshka | I can't say more than what is covered by gate | 17:33 |
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| anteaya | can we hear from dougwig on this | 17:33 |
| anteaya | he is in a meeting atm but should be finished soon | 17:33 |
| armax | I need to step away now…but I’ll be back online later | 17:33 |
| anteaya | I really don't want to make the vpnaas testing situation worse than it already is | 17:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Abel Lopez proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Remove grub for later installation https://review.openstack.org/211683 | 17:34 |
| ihrachyshka | armax, so we go with just fwaas revert? and for devstack-gate, we only cleanup while it's no-op for our issue? | 17:34 |
| anteaya | ihrachyshka: did you hear me ask to sync with dougwig? | 17:34 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: can you rephrase? | 17:34 |
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| armax | ihrachyshka: I wonder if we should give sc68cal’s patch a shot | 17:35 |
| ihrachyshka | anteaya, ok, so we wait. fine for me, it seems feature/qos merge for neutron slips for another day anyway. | 17:35 |
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| sc68cal | armax: it's on the way in, so we'll see | 17:35 |
| armax | sc68cal: cool | 17:35 |
| anteaya | well only if you want my help | 17:35 |
| anteaya | anytime neutron doesn't want my help proceed without me | 17:36 |
| ihrachyshka | armax, your devstack-gate patch does nothing to fix the issue, it's a cleanup. so I assumed that we expect the results from the neutron-fwaas revert patch that may help or not | 17:36 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: did you sync with dougwig and the current vpnaas testing situation? | 17:36 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: ok, now I am with you | 17:37 |
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| armax | ihrachyshka: the expectation is that it does help | 17:37 |
| sc68cal | anteaya: not yet, but I know vpnaas has been hurting lately, looks like it's fwaas' turn | 17:37 |
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| armax | ihrachyshka: I mean https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211677/ | 17:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Dawid Malinowski proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Adds Cloudbees folder plugin support https://review.openstack.org/180185 | 17:37 |
| anteaya | well how about we co-ordinate on the neutron side | 17:37 |
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| anteaya | rather than coming to infra and trying to convince us we need to fix a fire | 17:37 |
| mmmpork | jeblair: clarkb: just wanted to give y'all a heads up that I'm currently walking through https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179840/ | 17:38 |
| mmmpork | i added myself as a reviewer on it and i'll have a diff with some suggestions in a bit | 17:38 |
| sc68cal | anteaya: agreed. We're pushing a revert on the fwaas side to see if that fixes the issue, rather than reverting the d-g change | 17:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/infra-specs: Update nodepool-workers with topic and asignee https://review.openstack.org/208442 | 17:38 |
| mmmpork | but i might have some clarifying questions | 17:38 |
| jeblair | mmmpork: oh neat. i should look at that. :) | 17:38 |
| clarkb | mmmpork cool tgere is a devstack plugin too | 17:38 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: how about having some co-ordination on the neutron side first | 17:38 |
| clarkb | thar doc should be merged soon then I can add a plugin paragraph | 17:38 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: will a plan | 17:39 |
| anteaya | and perhaps a point person for *aas testing | 17:39 |
| mmmpork | ok, the instructions so far are good but there's some context missing that new folks like me need ;) | 17:39 |
| mmmpork | i'm doing my best to fill that in | 17:39 |
| anteaya | someone who an sort it out and keep it maintained | 17:39 |
| * dougwig weeps. | 17:40 | |
| sc68cal | anteaya: well, fwaas has a bunch of new cores now, so we should be responsible. I'll try my best | 17:40 |
| mmmpork | i'm working on adding a sentence about that devstack section, what it is and why it's necessary | 17:40 |
| sc68cal | at least for our part | 17:40 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: should and is are different | 17:40 |
| clarkb | mmmpork sounds good thanks | 17:40 |
| mmmpork | my understanding from talking to greghaynes is that the first section runs functional tests that do mocking | 17:40 |
| anteaya | my point is that some co-ordination is in order | 17:40 |
| mmmpork | so setting up nodepool against a devstack lets you do end to end testing (manually for now i think) | 17:40 |
| anteaya | I don't care who as long as it is effective | 17:41 |
| dougwig | sc68cal, anteaya: sc68cal, sounds good, but let's coordinate before we take things to infra going forward. | 17:41 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Update zuulv3 spec to specify branch https://review.openstack.org/211687 | 17:41 |
| clarkb | mmmpork we just added a non voting jenkins test to do it too | 17:41 |
| mmmpork | oh nice | 17:41 |
| greghaynes | mmmpork: (thats the gate-dsvm-nodepool-nv I mentioned) | 17:41 |
| mmmpork | yes! ok | 17:41 |
| mmmpork | i'll take a look at that and see if it's worth mentioning that in the doc | 17:41 |
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| mmmpork | since i'm so new, i figure i'm a good guinea pig | 17:41 |
| mmmpork | although i assume most people reading it will have the context that i'm lacking ;) | 17:42 |
| anteaya | dougwig: thanks, to -neutron? | 17:42 |
| dougwig | anteaya: aye | 17:42 |
| clarkb | mmmpork good intro to all the cloud things too | 17:42 |
| jeblair | mmmpork, clarkb: that doesn't talk about the running it with fake providers, which is discussed in the README | 17:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: document release_postversion.sh https://review.openstack.org/211688 | 17:43 |
| jeblair | i find that to be very useful when testing nodepool itself (as opposed to its interaction with a cloud) | 17:43 |
| clarkb | agreed | 17:44 |
| mmmpork | is that something that should be mentioned or at least referred to in that doc? | 17:44 |
| clarkb | testing against cloud ensures all our client stuff works | 17:44 |
| clarkb | occ shade novaclient neutron etc | 17:44 |
| jeblair | should probably just move into the .rst doc | 17:44 |
| mmmpork | i hate to have doc redundancy as it's a pain to maintain | 17:44 |
| mmmpork | ok, i'll make a note of that and include it in my diff | 17:44 |
| jeblair | there's a little bit of overlap with setup there too | 17:45 |
| mmmpork | i can't remember how gerrit works (it's been a bit since i've used it) can i submit a patch to clarkb's patch? | 17:45 |
| StevenK | mmmpork: Sure can | 17:45 |
| mmmpork | or do i just submit a diff? | 17:45 |
| mmmpork | ok :) i should probably just RTFM instead of bugging y'all ;) | 17:45 |
| jeblair | so a slight restructuring into "basic setup; option 1: functional tests; option 2: run locally with fakes; option 3: devstack plugin" might help | 17:45 |
| mmmpork | yeah ok | 17:45 |
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| mmmpork | i'll leave out the plugin since it looks like clarkb might do that down the road and it's outside of the scope of this particular patch | 17:46 |
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| mmmpork | but i'm happy to take on that documentation or at least a technical edit of that particular task | 17:46 |
| mmmpork | adding the plugin docs | 17:46 |
| odyssey4me | fungi anteaya ok, let me find one | 17:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Add maniphest to priority efforts https://review.openstack.org/211690 | 17:49 |
| odyssey4me | fungi anteaya here's one: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I6d8f72b418e041a956a3267bfee30d563bf35e34,n,z | 17:50 |
| mmmpork | clarkb: if you want i can take a stab at the plugin docs if you haven't had a chance yet. otherwise, feel free to just write a draft and i'd be happy to add to it/ do editing | 17:50 |
| odyssey4me | fungi notice that master merged, but the backport to kilo did not | 17:50 |
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| anteaya | interesting, it said the jenkins build succeeded though no tests were run | 17:51 |
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| anteaya | I guess we don't have a scenario where the skipped test is the only test being run | 17:52 |
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| anteaya | and what to do if the one and only test is skipped | 17:52 |
| fungi | odyssey4me: yep, i agree this seems to be a change in zuul behavior. i belive i know which bugfix caused it too | 17:52 |
| clarkb | mmmpork feel free too, running it with the plugi should be good fun too :) | 17:52 |
| odyssey4me | anteaya Andreas said this is working as designed and that we need another test that isn't skipped | 17:52 |
| fungi | odyssey4me: it is working as intended, though i think we didn't expect there were projects which were relying on that broken behavior | 17:53 |
| odyssey4me | honestly, that makes sense - and we'd add a simple noop test for now but Andreas thought that doing that would confuse zuul | 17:53 |
| odyssey4me | fungi :) | 17:53 |
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| fungi | odyssey4me: you could add a custom noop job, yes, just not the noop job we use for projects which have no check or gate jobs since your _tested_ changes would end up in a shared integrated queue with all of them | 17:54 |
| odyssey4me | we fully intend to switch to using more of the standard templated docs - but we're a month behind on patches now and would like to get those up to date before we change behaviour again | 17:54 |
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| odyssey4me | fungi well, we have a review in to add a job which runs an in-repo doc build check script - this is a pattern we use across all our jobs in order to maintain flexibility and not have to rely on -infra reviews for changes to our build processes (which happen frequently) | 17:55 |
| pabelanger | fungi: suggestions for skipping? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211294/2/nodepool/elements/nodepool-base/finalise.d/99-unbound | 17:56 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: just remove the logic? | 17:56 |
| odyssey4me | fungi ie https://review.openstack.org/210498 | 17:56 |
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| odyssey4me | anteaya I'd like to schedule some time with you to figure out how to use more of the templated jobs - perhaps next week? | 17:57 |
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| mmmpork | clarkb: is there already a bug/ticket/something for that i can search for? | 17:58 |
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| clarkb | mmmpork for the devstack plugin? its in nodepool/devstack | 17:59 |
| mtreinish | anteaya, fungi, clarkb, jeblair, mordred: when you get a sec can you kick: https://review.openstack.org/210941 | 17:59 |
| clarkb | and project-infra/jenkins/jobs/nodepool.yaml has the job showing you how to run it | 18:00 |
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| mtreinish | the depends on merged but the timing was off | 18:00 |
| mmmpork | for adding the docs to the nodepool testing.rst | 18:00 |
| mmmpork | the plugin section rather | 18:00 |
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| jeblair | odyssey4me, anteaya: we should really use the standard docs jobs for os-ansible-deployment | 18:00 |
| clarkb | there is no bug or ticket | 18:00 |
| mmmpork | ok, i can create one :) | 18:00 |
| fungi | odyssey4me: the zuul behavior change you've found was introduced by https://review.openstack.org/188383 | 18:00 |
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| fungi | odyssey4me: and definitely intentional | 18:01 |
| jeblair | odyssey4me, anteaya: in order to avoid every project having their own way to build docs, we established what we call the "project testing interface": http://governance.openstack.org/reference/project-testing-interface.html | 18:01 |
| anteaya | jeblair: thank you, that is what I also would like | 18:01 |
| odyssey4me | jeblair do they just run tox? | 18:01 |
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| jeblair | odyssey4me: they run "python setup.py build_sphinx" inside of a virtualenv | 18:01 |
| fungi | pabelanger: yeah, i'd seek a second opinion, but i'm pretty sure we don't need selinux workarounds on dib builds | 18:01 |
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| jeblair | odyssey4me: they are intentionally set up that way so that there's a consistent way to build python project docs across all openstack projects, and that we follow the general python conventions for doing so | 18:02 |
| odyssey4me | jeblair I'm not sure that'll work for our docs as we have no setup.py - it's not that kind of project :) | 18:02 |
| jeblair | odyssey4me: though the docs are sphinx, right? | 18:03 |
| odyssey4me | jeblair I get that, but we aren't a pure python project - we're a deployment project | 18:03 |
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| odyssey4me | yes, I think so - we're still ironing out some kinks with it | 18:03 |
| odyssey4me | but ultimately we'd like to use the build and publish feature in the standard templates | 18:03 |
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| clarkb | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/setup.py | 18:04 |
| clarkb | same thing fwiw and works great | 18:04 |
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| jeblair | odyssey4me: we have other projects that are similar in that they are not installable python packages. for instance, the specs repos and governance repos. | 18:04 |
| jeblair | clarkb: and that one too ^ :) | 18:04 |
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| jeblair | odyssey4me: so probably the easiest way to go is to add a file like clarkb suggests and then you can plug right into the standard interface | 18:05 |
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| fungi | heh, yeah a puppet module repo with a setup.py ;) | 18:05 |
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| fungi | we have that | 18:05 |
| mmmpork | clarkb: sorry to "bug" you again but where should i create the bug report for the plugin docs? | 18:05 |
| mmmpork | i see we have a few different places where these things are tracked | 18:06 |
| odyssey4me | fungi jeblair anteaya alright, let me look into that tomorrow and revise the patch - thanks | 18:06 |
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| jeblair | fungi: wouldn't it be nice if we could use the setup.py for more than just doc builds? :) | 18:06 |
| mmmpork | i'm guessing i should file it in launchpad? | 18:06 |
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| clarkb | mmmpork storyboard.openstack.org under nodepool project | 18:06 |
| jeblair | odyssey4me: cool, let me know if you have questions | 18:06 |
| mmmpork | ahh ok | 18:06 |
| anteaya | odyssey4me: thank you, thanks for you understnding here | 18:06 |
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| mmmpork | i'm sure that's in a doc somewhere too ;) | 18:07 |
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| odyssey4me | thanks jeblair I may just do so :) | 18:08 |
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| fungi | mmmpork: looks like the nodepool repo is missing our usual CONTRIBUTING.rst file and doesn't have a section about bugs in its README.rst either, if you're looking for another easy (and helpful!) commit | 18:12 |
| jeblair | fungi: ++ | 18:13 |
| fungi | that's what should have normally told you were to go | 18:13 |
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| sdague | clarkb: ^^^ simplifies the ansible commands | 18:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Use ansible sudo capabilities rather than subshell https://review.openstack.org/202566 | 18:14 |
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| rcarrillocruz | jeblair: i've added a couple items to the agenda, can't make the meeting due to TZ diff, hard for me to attend | 18:15 |
| rcarrillocruz | i hope it's ok even if if i'm not around | 18:15 |
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| rcarrillocruz | if you can discuss them, i can check tomorrow in the meeting logs what was agreed | 18:15 |
| mmmpork | fungi: thanks! | 18:17 |
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| mmmpork | i'll file another bug in storyboard and assign it to myself | 18:17 |
| rcarrillocruz | sdague: those global params can also be put on ansible.cfg: http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/intro_configuration.html | 18:17 |
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| mmmpork | yay first bugs :D | 18:17 |
| rcarrillocruz | re: ansible change on devstack-gate | 18:17 |
| fungi | mmmpork: yeah, feel free to adapt a template one from http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/cookiecutter/tree/%7b%7bcookiecutter.repo_name%7d%7d/ and adapt it with inspiration from other infra repos | 18:18 |
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| sdague | rcarrillocruz: right, which is what I did, right? | 18:19 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202494/4/functions.sh,cm L40-> | 18:19 |
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| rcarrillocruz | ah, you're cating an ansible.cfg on the fly | 18:21 |
| rcarrillocruz | k, i didn't see the ansible.cfg as an added file or modification on the change itself | 18:21 |
| rcarrillocruz | ++ | 18:21 |
| sdague | well, when we install ansible | 18:21 |
| sdague | so it's only done once on each run | 18:21 |
| rcarrillocruz | k, was thinking of adding a static repo ansible.cfg file | 18:22 |
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| mmmpork | ok cool | 18:23 |
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| fungi | StevenK: ^ | 18:25 |
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| Shrews | mordred: fyi, this adds our first functional test to use the devstack clouds.yml ^^^^ surprisingly, it works | 18:51 |
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| fungi | meeting time! | 19:00 |
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| Clint | *crickets* | 19:01 |
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| mrmartin | o/ | 19:04 |
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| zaro | timrc: ahh i remember that gearman-plugin change now. IIRC i made a request that you provide some info on why you didn't use my suggestion and implemented in the new way? | 19:10 |
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| timrc | zaro, Hm I thought I did. Let me go look at the review again. While I do that, the reason I'm doing it this way is because I don't want to parse a host name to get the node type when I can get the actual node type (as I've demonstrated in this change) that corresponds to the worker. | 19:12 |
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| timrc | zaro, Doh, my comment was left in draft :-) | 19:14 |
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| timrc | zaro, Another advantage to my solution is that the node type is sent with the status packet so I can submit metrics per-node-type in line with when other metrics are getting submitted. I believe 'builtOn' becomes available once the build completes? | 19:16 |
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| timrc | zaro, (btw, I went and reviewed Patch #1 again, to add my comment :)) | 19:17 |
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| Shrews | clarkb: fungi: Question for after the meeting.... Any idea why devstack is putting the clouds.yaml file in a non-standard location (/opt/stack/new/.config/openstack/clouds.yaml) where o-c-c cannot find it? If a job wants to make use of that, they have to set OS_CLIENT_CONFIG_FILE in d-g, which seems less than ideal. | 19:46 |
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| Shrews | for reference http://logs.openstack.org/10/211710/2/check/gate-shade-dsvm-functional-neutron/dbf50fe/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-08-11_19_14_32_158 | 19:46 |
| clarkb | Shrews: I do not know, I noticed that nodepool didn't work with it in the devstack job either | 19:46 |
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| clarkb | Shrews: oh I know maybe | 19:48 |
| clarkb | Shrews: /opt/stack/new is the stack user's homedir | 19:48 |
| Shrews | oh? hrm. wonder why my job is not finding it: http://logs.openstack.org/10/211710/2/check/gate-shade-dsvm-functional-neutron/dbf50fe/console.html#_2015-08-11_19_17_46_397 | 19:48 |
| Shrews | silly computers | 19:49 |
| clarkb | I concur | 19:49 |
| clarkb | Shrews: my change didn't find it either so guessing not everything runs as stack? | 19:49 |
| clarkb | or maybe file perms are wrong? | 19:49 |
| fungi | yep, that's totally ~stack in those jobs | 19:49 |
| Shrews | clarkb: hrm... maybe the jobs aren't running as 'stack' | 19:50 |
| clarkb | Shrews: the outer user is jenkins for sure | 19:50 |
| Shrews | well, that'd be it | 19:50 |
| clarkb | Shrews: but then devstack should run things as stack | 19:50 |
| clarkb | oh but in the case of shade tests its node devtack doing it, it happens after devstack | 19:50 |
| clarkb | Shrews: so I would sudo -u stack | 19:50 |
| clarkb | er sudo -H -u stack tox -e func0tests | 19:50 |
| clarkb | that should fix it for you I think | 19:50 |
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| Shrews | clarkb: ah ha. i'll try that. thx | 19:51 |
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| Shrews | clarkb: oh, wait. where would i set that? | 19:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Nadya Shakhat proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add experimental postgres functional job for Ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/211646 | 19:52 |
| clarkb | Shrews: in the part of the job that runs tox, probably a post gat ehook? | 19:52 |
| clarkb | Shrews: might have to go in the job | 19:52 |
| Swanson | fungi: ping | 19:52 |
| fungi | Swanson: i am not an icmp echo responder | 19:53 |
| fungi | Swanson: please just ask questions when you have them | 19:53 |
| Swanson | fungi: Thanks. I've been having some trouble with nodepool building an image. Last week we thought it might be that I didn't have dns resolution on the machine I was running it on. I've fixed that and I still get resolution failures. | 19:54 |
| Swanson | fungi: you had another idea where to look. Do you remember what that was? | 19:54 |
| Swanson | fungi: it was failing to find archive.ubuntu.com even though that actually works on that machine. | 19:55 |
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| fungi | Swanson: the question was whether you were running a resolver listening on 127.0.0.1 on your nodepool server, since processes run from within dib's chroots will try to connect to that for resolution | 19:55 |
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| Swanson | fungi: I've since fixed that. | 19:55 |
| fungi | not just a matter of getting dns resolution "working" on your nodepool server, but actually having your nodepool server act as a dns server | 19:55 |
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| Swanson | fungi: running bind9 as a caching dns server. | 19:56 |
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| Swanson | perhaps that is wrong. Sure seems to work. | 19:56 |
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| fungi | Swanson: `host archive.ubuntu.com 127.0.0.1` works from a shell on your nodepool server? | 20:00 |
| Swanson | fungi: yep. | 20:01 |
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| yolanda | so jeblair, do you have a sec? | 20:01 |
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| fungi | Swanson: if dib is leaving behind the chroot, could you inspect the /etc/resolv.conf inside it? | 20:01 |
| jeblair | yolanda: sure | 20:02 |
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| yolanda | jeblair, ok, i'll expose just here. So we need to find the best way to collaborate upstream. We try to do all the work upstream, specially on some areas | 20:03 |
| yolanda | but there is a reality, that is business and time. And this means that is impossible for some of the projects to go 100% upstream | 20:03 |
| hogepodge | fungi: refstack deployment. work on that Wednesday afternoon up to Friday? krotscheck any help or suggestion appreciated. /cc sslypushenko | 20:03 |
| Swanson | fungi: what am I looking for, exactly? | 20:03 |
| yolanda | creating an spec , waiting for approval, implementing, reviews... is something that cannot be done fast, or at least not by our team | 20:04 |
| yolanda | so what we try to do in some cases is find the way to move that upstream once we have the deliverable finished | 20:04 |
| yolanda | in what way do you think that's not good and how do you propose we work? | 20:04 |
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| clarkb | btw I just approved https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211344/ which will need some hand holding to make sure shade is up to date before restarting nodepool | 20:05 |
| jeblair | yolanda: that is not how this project works, and you will find that people will not want to collaborate with you on such terms -- because that is not collaboration. that is just writing some code and throwing it over the wall. | 20:05 |
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| clarkb | (I will do that hand holding) | 20:05 |
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| jeblair | yolanda: you are doing excellent work on the puppet modules. i know that you and others on your team know how to work upstream. | 20:05 |
| yolanda | jeblair, i didn't feel that you were talking about me really but I want to talk about my team | 20:06 |
| jeblair | yolanda: indeed, but i'm citing you as positive example :) | 20:06 |
| yolanda | much appreciated :) we'd love to collaborate with upstream but we always have this blocker of time | 20:06 |
| yolanda | and we don't really want to keep things in private but sharing with infra | 20:07 |
| jeblair | yolanda: we need people to pitch in everywhere. this upstream vs downstream thing is harmful, and the more we let ourselves think and talk about it that way, the worse it becomes. | 20:07 |
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| jeblair | yolanda: we are all running very similar systems, and we can all pitch in to help work on it. | 20:07 |
| yolanda | jeblair, i nevel felt that way upstream vs downstream but the reality is that is very hard and time is really a blocker for us. Say as example that nodepool rest api spec | 20:08 |
| yolanda | we have our users claiming for that service | 20:08 |
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| yolanda | and we cannot tell "we cannot have it because it's pending for review", in downstream we need to move much faster | 20:08 |
| jeblair | yolanda: sure, and people left comments on that spec MONTHS ago, and they still haven't been addressed. | 20:09 |
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| jeblair | yolanda: it's not waiting for review, reviewers are waiting for their comments to be addressed | 20:09 |
| jeblair | yolanda: the only comments i left on it, in fact, were just copy/pastes of months-old comments from other people that were just ignored | 20:09 |
| clarkb | checking the coverage reports hosted in swift (eg a nodepool cover job) the javascript that come sout of swift is no longer being wrapped in html | 20:09 |
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| clarkb | I think passthrough works now \o/ | 20:09 |
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| jeblair | yolanda: i think the thing missing here is engagement. it's a lot of work to fully participate in an open source community. but it still ends up being less work than doing it yourself. | 20:10 |
| fungi | Swanson: you're looking for diskimage-builder documentation probably. i don't recall how to hold and poke around inside the chroot when it fails, and don't have time to look it up myself at the moment | 20:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/nodepool: Stop passing cloud config name to shade https://review.openstack.org/211344 | 20:11 |
| jeblair | yolanda: so yeah, every person on your team needs to spend time working upstream. reviewing specs or changes in areas they are interested in. | 20:11 |
| yolanda | jeblair, bad example then, but i can say that for people is discouraging to wait for long, and specially for people not in same shift | 20:11 |
| fungi | hogepodge: i'll have to figure out where it got left. you were planning to test deploying locally to work out the remaining details on the pending change right? | 20:11 |
| yolanda | jeblair, and it's called time... | 20:11 |
| yolanda | free time | 20:11 |
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| Swanson | fungi: Thanks for the help. Looking into it now. | 20:11 |
| yolanda | jeblair, but want i don't want is that because some of us cannot collaborate upstream we have it hard to get things reviewed or approved, i wish collaboration was easier | 20:12 |
| mtreinish | fungi, jeblair, clarkb: am I missing something, shouldn't this have gone into the gate queue after the recheck? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210941/ | 20:12 |
| fungi | hogepodge: i believe https://review.openstack.org/198869 is the one you said you could test out and figure out why we're getting apply errors on it | 20:12 |
| fungi | mtreinish: nope, it already had a verify +1. it needs to be reapproved | 20:13 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: no, due to a gerrit bug it won't emit an event saying verified +1 if you apply a second +1 | 20:13 |
| clarkb | because events ingerrit aren't actually events :/ | 20:13 |
| hogepodge | fungi: ok | 20:13 |
| nibalizer | yolanda: jeblair it is hard, I don't know how to make it easier | 20:14 |
| yolanda | take this infra-ansible effort , is really good and useful for us. We want to move it upstream for sure, were considering in proposing for puppet-opensatckci. But we need to have something up and running for our projects, in few time, so we develop internally | 20:14 |
| jeblair | yolanda: open source software is an economy where you get more out of the project than you put in -- but only if you put something in. | 20:14 |
| fungi | mtreinish: approving the depending-on change before the depended-on change currently always requires reapproving again once the depended-on change has been approved | 20:14 |
| hogepodge | fungi: python 27 check is failing | 20:14 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: fungi zaro is trying to fix this upstream fwiw | 20:15 |
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| clarkb | I reviewed the change at one point | 20:15 |
| jeblair | yolanda: right. that's not collaboration. it _is_ a way to develop software. it's not the openstack way. | 20:15 |
| mtreinish | fungi: sdague did that earlier and nothing happened (that's why I tried to recheck) | 20:15 |
| fungi | hogepodge: what python 27 check? | 20:15 |
| fungi | hogepodge: https://review.openstack.org/198869 | 20:15 |
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| yolanda | jeblair what you'd have suggested in that case, or how can we address it? it's still a POC , it needs development, we want to share | 20:16 |
| yolanda | people do it all the time also, work on ideas, then expose them | 20:16 |
| fungi | mtreinish: hrm... i'll check the zuul logs. timing is tight. i thought it didn't have to be already merged, just be approved, but i might be wrong there | 20:17 |
| jeblair | yolanda: write a spec so people can understand the effort and help contribute. even if you still end up doing most of the work, others will contribute ideas, we can make sure to align other future efforts on it. | 20:17 |
| jeblair | yolanda: and that's backwards -- talk about ideas first, then implement. that's collaboration. | 20:17 |
| yolanda | jeblair we can write an spec and start moving that forward for sure | 20:18 |
| yolanda | but we still are in the same position. If wee need the tooling downstream in a week there is no way on doing that 100% upstream. We can try exposing that idea later in upstream and see how it gets accepted, i really can't see a better way to combine it | 20:20 |
| SpamapS | interesting.. logs.openstack.org is really, really slow from Taipei. | 20:20 |
| jeblair | yolanda: you do understand that _you_ have voting rights on the specs repo, right? | 20:20 |
| openstackgerrit | David Cheperdak proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add OpenStack project Fusion. https://review.openstack.org/204434 | 20:20 |
| openstackgerrit | David Cheperdak proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add OpenStack project networking-wan. https://review.openstack.org/204827 | 20:20 |
| yolanda | jeblair, i do, and i vote | 20:21 |
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| SpamapS | hm, ok it sped up.. to 128kB/s | 20:22 |
| yolanda | i'll tell ricky to propose an spec upstream for infra-ansible and we'll start moving that forward | 20:22 |
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| jeblair | yolanda: it sounds like the problem is unreasonable demands downstream. i can't do anything about that. the only thing i can do is help you contribute upstream. the more you do, the more effective your team will be at achieving its goals, because you will be working with others. | 20:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: A warning comment https://review.openstack.org/211738 | 20:24 |
| yolanda | jeblair i agree on that, but hard to achieve | 20:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid: OIDC - OpenId Connect Implementation https://review.openstack.org/198458 | 20:28 |
| rcarrillocruz | hey | 20:29 |
| rcarrillocruz | just came back to my laptop after sleeping my son | 20:29 |
| rcarrillocruz | fungi: saw your comment on the nodepool api spec | 20:29 |
| rcarrillocruz | so, i'm not strongly biased on keystone auth | 20:29 |
| rcarrillocruz | i think it's interesting | 20:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add puppet-modulesync-configs hook https://review.openstack.org/210517 | 20:29 |
| fungi | rcarrillocruz: yep, i too think it's interesting, and that's my problem with it ;) | 20:30 |
| rcarrillocruz | but in the implementation i did initially (which i was told not to do , and rather write a spec) i just leveraged basic auth | 20:30 |
| rcarrillocruz | i'm a fan of iterating things, start from small and grow | 20:30 |
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| rcarrillocruz | but really , i'm not that experienced on writing auth layers or this stuff from scratch, therefore i'm gathering ideas rather than just saying 'i think we should do keystone' | 20:31 |
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| rcarrillocruz | has any decision being made on the puppet-pip puppet-python or being talked at all? | 20:32 |
| rcarrillocruz | uhm...i'm reading infra-ansible ? erm, i don't consider that even alpha level code | 20:33 |
| fungi | rcarrillocruz: i think there was a takeaway to better explain why whatever-it-is downstream couldn't just run install_puppet.sh (and then maybe get a spec up for whatever-it-is upstream instead) | 20:33 |
| rcarrillocruz | which is why i have not put it on openstack infra repos yet | 20:33 |
| rcarrillocruz | beeing working on it past few weeks (had abanodned it) to push it to infra | 20:34 |
| yolanda | i just raised that project as an example of where do we install puppet | 20:34 |
| bswartz | Has anyone ever noticed that if you leave http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ open in your browser for a long time it consumes a behemoth amount of bandwidth? | 20:34 |
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| clarkb | bswartz: yes it loads a giant json blob to render those grpahs for you | 20:35 |
| rcarrillocruz | fungi: well, thing is i incidentally hit a puppet module failure this weekend (puppet-zuul) where I wanted to test something | 20:36 |
| rcarrillocruz | and got failures due to pip missing | 20:36 |
| fungi | rcarrillocruz: after installing it on a system where install_puppet.sh had run? | 20:36 |
| rcarrillocruz | and turns out the module has puppet-pip and the module does *not* install pip, but obv. you never hit that cos you just run install_puppet.sh and bake it in pip | 20:36 |
| rcarrillocruz | no, without it | 20:36 |
| rcarrillocruz | i don't think we should require our puppet modules to run install_puppet.sh, the module should do its thing | 20:37 |
| fungi | rcarrillocruz: that was nibalizer's take... we have some basic prerequisites for our modules. you need to install puppet and pip | 20:37 |
| rcarrillocruz | and in this case is even buggy, cos does an include pip that is a noop | 20:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add propose-puppet-modulesync-configs-update job https://review.openstack.org/211744 | 20:37 |
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| greghaynes | SpamapS: ohai - so sort term plan - im hacking up our bifrost configdrive template to spit out the vlan info in our configdrives, going to try and deploy with that | 20:39 |
| rcarrillocruz | and even, if we go this route of requiring install_puppet.sh for all the infra modules, then we should do a cleanup and remove include pip | 20:39 |
| fungi | rcarrillocruz: i think the original objections to my attempt to remove our use of the pip module were that it served as "documentation" as to which modules needed you to install pip to be able to use them | 20:39 |
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| SpamapS | greghaynes: and then adding Monty's glean patches to the image? | 20:40 |
| greghaynes | yep | 20:40 |
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| rcarrillocruz | well, then we should just state that in documentation, that seems an strange objection to me | 20:40 |
| fungi | rcarrillocruz: opinions may have shifted since, but i basically gave up on it after it seemed to be desired to have our modules include a pip module which basically does nothing except serve as a placeholder | 20:40 |
| rcarrillocruz | also, imho we should then split the install_puppet.sh into install_puppet.sh/install_pip.sh | 20:40 |
| rcarrillocruz | i just realized install_puppet.sh this weekend | 20:40 |
| rcarrillocruz | no straightforward to figure out by just looking at the script name | 20:41 |
| fungi | rcarrillocruz: it would be better named install_puppet_and_prerequisites_for_our_modules.sh | 20:41 |
| rcarrillocruz | that too | 20:41 |
| rcarrillocruz | :D | 20:41 |
| fungi | (of which pip happens to be one) | 20:41 |
| rcarrillocruz | jeblair: is this worth a spec | 20:42 |
| rcarrillocruz | ? | 20:42 |
| rcarrillocruz | ^ | 20:42 |
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| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: this sounds like maybe an openstack-infra mailing list thread? | 20:46 |
| fungi | may not need a spec... may just need a better explanation | 20:46 |
| fungi | yeah, that | 20:46 |
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| jeblair | cause i think what's going on is we're all a little confused and all missing a bit of information | 20:47 |
| rcarrillocruz | i sent yesterday | 20:47 |
| rcarrillocruz | (which btw i missed topic after [openstack-infra][puppet-pip] i'm afraid) | 20:47 |
| rcarrillocruz | so | 20:47 |
| rcarrillocruz | puppet-zuul | 20:47 |
| rcarrillocruz | you clone it | 20:47 |
| rcarrillocruz | you run it | 20:47 |
| rcarrillocruz | it will complain of missing pip | 20:47 |
| rcarrillocruz | the module has include pip | 20:48 |
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| rcarrillocruz | but puppet-pip does *not* install pip, it's buggy | 20:48 |
| fungi | i expect the same is true of at least several of our other puppet modules as well | 20:48 |
| rcarrillocruz | but then i pushed a patch | 20:48 |
| rcarrillocruz | and got resource redeclaration error | 20:48 |
| rcarrillocruz | cos the jenkins slaves do have pip install via puppet-python | 20:48 |
| hogepodge | fungi: I guess I don't understand why we're testing across several different os'es. It looks like the target is precise, so it's not surprising it fails on trusty and centos | 20:48 |
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| rcarrillocruz | there's an overlap of functionality here, puppet-python & puppet-pip | 20:49 |
| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: i think the jenkins slaves will still have pip installed via install_puppet.sh | 20:49 |
| rcarrillocruz | and we also have install_puppet.sh, which installs pip | 20:49 |
| rcarrillocruz | ++ | 20:49 |
| fungi | hogepodge: i haven't looked at the log. i'll set aside some time to do that | 20:49 |
| hogepodge | and fedore | 20:49 |
| rcarrillocruz | so it seems we have some mess here | 20:49 |
| hogepodge | all of the errors seems OS related. | 20:49 |
| rcarrillocruz | i suggest that we repurpose python-pip jsut for managing pip.conf | 20:49 |
| rcarrillocruz | and use puppet-python for installing pip | 20:49 |
| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: i think the confusing thing is why do we want another way of installing pip? | 20:50 |
| hogepodge | krotscheck: do you have any ideas? | 20:50 |
| rcarrillocruz | or just remove all pip from modules and say 'hey, you should install pip prior to running this modules' | 20:50 |
| rcarrillocruz | i wanna do a cleanup | 20:50 |
| rcarrillocruz | but not sure how to move forward | 20:50 |
| rcarrillocruz | jeblair: btw http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2015-August/003015.html | 20:51 |
| yolanda | puppet-pip was proposed to be removed by fungi, so we could continue removing that, create a puppet-pip_settings to manage pip.conf | 20:51 |
| rcarrillocruz | i'm ok with it | 20:51 |
| rcarrillocruz | just we should get consensus | 20:51 |
| rcarrillocruz | cos i'm sure there must be more service modules out there using puppet-pip | 20:51 |
| rcarrillocruz | and it does nothing in terms of installing pip, which is supposedly its main reason to exist | 20:52 |
| yolanda | and if we need pip explicitly installed with install_puppet script, we need to enforce it on the documentation | 20:52 |
| fungi | once i ripped out the python3-pip hacks, which was the primary reason we had that module in the first place, i proposed removing it since it was at that point doing basically nothing. apparently it's since grown some mechanism to manage pip configs | 20:52 |
| clarkb | yes the reason the module existed was to support python3 not to install pip | 20:53 |
| fungi | but we really originally had it simply so we could subclass the pip package provider to do python3-ish things | 20:53 |
| clarkb | sdague: for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202566/2/devstack-vm-gate.sh that stops using sudo -H is that a problem? | 20:53 |
| jeblair | yeah, so continuing to install pip from install_puppet.sh is probably what we want to do; and if we need a module just to manage the pip.conf, we can declare that as the purpose of puppet-pip | 20:54 |
| rcarrillocruz | i suggest we put some documentation somehwre | 20:54 |
| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: maybe follow up on the ml thread with that and see if anyone objects? | 20:54 |
| rcarrillocruz | where we state 'hey, please run install_puppet.sh, cos otherwise this won't work' | 20:54 |
| rcarrillocruz | jeblair: sure, i can | 20:54 |
| rcarrillocruz | in case of docs, where's the best place to put that about the infra modules | 20:55 |
| rcarrillocruz | ? | 20:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Finish disabling pip mirror https://review.openstack.org/211751 | 20:56 |
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| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: probably in the modules themselves | 20:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Finish disabling pip mirror https://review.openstack.org/211751 | 21:02 |
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| clarkb | mordred: I guess https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202566/2/devstack-vm-gate.sh is your change, any idea onwhether or not the loss of sudo -H is important? | 21:04 |
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| fungi | hogepodge: aha, i see what you were saying about python 2.7 | 21:05 |
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| fungi | hogepodge: http://logs.openstack.org/69/198869/6/check/gate-infra-puppet-apply-bare-trusty/6185973/console.html#_2015-08-03_20_01_32_682 | 21:05 |
| fungi | nibalizer: any clue what's going on there ^ ? | 21:05 |
| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: regarding documentation, i was thinking that puppet-pip should document its own purpose... | 21:05 |
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| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: i'm not sure we should mention installing pip in all of the individual module docs | 21:05 |
| thiagop | Hello, I'm trying to setup a new project on the CI and keep getting an error saying "Job python-oneviewclient-tarball not defined" | 21:06 |
| rcarrillocruz | yeah, i'm leaning towards maybe writing an infra manual section | 21:06 |
| rcarrillocruz | and putting the link on module comments | 21:06 |
| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: or something in system-config, but yeah | 21:06 |
| rcarrillocruz | like 'Requirements: Please check link http://foo' | 21:06 |
| thiagop | not sure about what could be triggering it (newbie on this OS CI stuff) | 21:06 |
| rcarrillocruz | cos putting 'please install pip or run install_puppet.sh' on all modules doesn't seem very clean to me | 21:06 |
| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: right, and we'll probably change that over time | 21:07 |
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| rcarrillocruz | jeblair: changing topic: in regards to the nodepool rest api, i don't think it's just downstream requirement | 21:07 |
| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: in the future, the requirement might be "this is designed to run on a node built using infra DIB elements" | 21:07 |
| rcarrillocruz | from vancouver i got the message you were planning on putting a REST API on top of it | 21:07 |
| rcarrillocruz | and mordred also showed interest | 21:07 |
| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: agreed, we know we want to expose information on images, status, etc. | 21:08 |
| rcarrillocruz | it seems we all have different use cases for it | 21:08 |
| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: i think we will have less use for authenticated use of it though | 21:08 |
| rcarrillocruz | and fwiw, if you ask me, i rather go with basic auth | 21:08 |
| rcarrillocruz | maybe put some auth layer to allow future auth implementations | 21:08 |
| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: that seems like a very sensible starting point | 21:08 |
| rcarrillocruz | but putting a keystone just to have a rest api user seems a bit overkill | 21:08 |
| rcarrillocruz | third point: infra-ansible, erm... not sure why it was mentioned really | 21:09 |
| rcarrillocruz | the reason why i haven't brought it up | 21:09 |
| rcarrillocruz | it's not i want it cornered in a github repo nobody cares | 21:09 |
| rcarrillocruz | it's that i'm working on it and it's just very very very very alpha | 21:09 |
| rcarrillocruz | not even sure if you will have interest on it | 21:09 |
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| rcarrillocruz | so basicly, it's a collection of ansible playbooks to provision and deploy a minimal infra | 21:09 |
| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: so if you can add that to the spec, that would be great (it's good to know that you just want to do basic auth, and it's also good to note that you considered keystone but think that we should not do it now for reason X, and may want to add it later for reason Y. including information like that for the future is helpful :) | 21:10 |
| rcarrillocruz | i'm not even sure if you care about it | 21:10 |
| rcarrillocruz | i will | 21:10 |
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| rcarrillocruz | you think that kind of ansible machinery is interesting to the group? | 21:10 |
| rcarrillocruz | i know puppet-openstackci, but that doesn't make orchestration | 21:10 |
| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: i think mordred is extremely interested in deploying infra with ansible -- he wants to replace launch_node.py with ansible | 21:10 |
| rcarrillocruz | which is why i started poking at it | 21:10 |
| rcarrillocruz | well | 21:11 |
| rcarrillocruz | nuff said | 21:11 |
| rcarrillocruz | i'll just throw what i have to stackforge | 21:11 |
| rcarrillocruz | write some basic tests | 21:11 |
| jeblair | rcarrillocruz: :) yeah, i think we'll have good conversations when he gets back | 21:11 |
| rcarrillocruz | cos i think the ultimate goal | 21:11 |
| rcarrillocruz | you | 21:11 |
| rcarrillocruz | and we downstream have | 21:11 |
| rcarrillocruz | is a way to have a ci for openstack ci | 21:11 |
| rcarrillocruz | pushing X to system-config, would it break? | 21:11 |
| jeblair | yep | 21:12 |
| rcarrillocruz | something along those lines | 21:12 |
| andersonvom | rcarrillocruz: +1 =) | 21:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Dawid Malinowski proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Adds Cloudbees folder plugin support https://review.openstack.org/180185 | 21:12 |
| fungi | hogepodge: it looks like that error is coming about because of http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-refstack/tree/manifests/api.pp#n30 | 21:12 |
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| fungi | hogepodge: i take it your manual testing didn't exhibit any issues applying the module on an ubuntu-trusty server? | 21:12 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/diskimage-builder/elements/devuser/README.html | 21:19 |
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| krotscheck | hogepodge: Reading backscroll.... | 21:32 |
| krotscheck | hogepodge: So, I'm at the ironic midcycle thsi week, so I'm only intermittently available as I'm focused on the ironic-webclient. | 21:33 |
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| hogepodge | krotscheck: tl;dr the refstack puppet code fails on all platforms except trusty | 21:33 |
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| krotscheck | hogepodge: Interesting. Sounds like a puppet version issue. | 21:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Test dib image builds with devstack too. https://review.openstack.org/211754 | 21:34 |
| krotscheck | hogepodge: Where does it need to run? | 21:34 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: ^ we shall see how that does | 21:34 |
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| hogepodge | krotscheck: well, it's not passing the gate for deployment https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198869/ | 21:35 |
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| hogepodge | krotscheck: fails on everything but precise (sorry, meant precise when I said trusty previously) | 21:36 |
| hogepodge | it looks like, amongst other things, it wants python 27 | 21:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Thiago Paiva Brito proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds python-oneviewclient project https://review.openstack.org/211301 | 21:36 |
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| krotscheck | hogepodge: It does. I can take a look to see what's going on, but again: Can't make guarantees about my time. | 21:39 |
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| fungi | hogepodge: krotscheck: yeah, it seems to choke on its use of stankevich/python (i see it used similarly in puppet-storyboard except we're not trying to pass $python_version into it | 21:40 |
| hogepodge | krotscheck: understand. I'll look more later this week too. | 21:40 |
| krotscheck | hogepodge: Has your team managed to source someone to maintain that project? I mentioned that someone woul dhav eto do that because I'd be occupied elsewhere. | 21:40 |
| hogepodge | krotscheck: it's supposed to me be ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 21:40 |
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| krotscheck | hogepodge: Allllrigtheythen. | 21:40 |
| hogepodge | krotscheck: I'll get up to speed. I'll have a few days before I leave for ops-mid cycle starting tomorrow afternoon | 21:41 |
| fungi | hogepodge: i recomment reproducing locally, and then comparing against puppet-storyboard to see how it's managing to not be broken there | 21:41 |
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| hogepodge | fungi: probably abstracting python in a reasonable way. | 21:42 |
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| hogepodge | (not to say the code isn't reasonable, just maybe more generic.... can't we all just settle on one OS? :-D) | 21:42 |
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| * krotscheck adds a precise and a trusty vagrant box.... | 21:43 | |
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| arosen | jeblair: Hi, a while ago I think you were saying you guys had to run qemu instead of kvm to avoid these kernel errors http://paste.openstack.org/show/412615/ . Is that a setting you guys made to the local.conf for devstack? | 21:47 |
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| sdake | quick question about the update frequency of http://governance.openstack.org/reference/projects/index.html | 21:59 |
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| sdake | the Kolla project was approved for the big tent by the tc a couple weeks ago and we are in the projects.yaml file | 22:00 |
| sdake | but not listed on that web page | 22:00 |
| sdake | is there a delay in the documentation update? | 22:00 |
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| fungi | sdake: it's published by a post job each time a change merges | 22:02 |
| fungi | sdake: perhaps the publication job for it is broken? | 22:02 |
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| sdake | for the governance repo you mean? | 22:02 |
| fungi | sdake: correct | 22:03 |
| sdake | bummer | 22:03 |
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| fungi | i'm checking | 22:03 |
| sdake | cool i'm happy to lend a hand getting it updated | 22:03 |
| fungi | looks like the kolla addition was the last change to merge there | 22:03 |
| sdake | but feel a bit lost - unless its python code that needs changing in the governance repo | 22:04 |
| fungi | the log for the upload is at http://logs.openstack.org/0c/0cf4af185936675e681f344b94efb9335dbc043c/post/static-governance-publish/53c9416/console.html.gz | 22:04 |
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| arosen | fungi: do you know off hand the qemu settings that are needed to run tempest with a nested instance? | 22:05 |
| fungi | arosen: nope. probably something in localrc? | 22:05 |
| fungi | sdake: http://governance.openstack.org/reference/projects/kolla.html got published at least | 22:05 |
| fungi | sdake: but the index doesn't seem to have been updated | 22:06 |
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| fungi | seeing if i can find what generates that | 22:06 |
| arosen | fungi: yea I was looking at the local.conf you guys run with but didn't see anything specific. Thanks, no worries. | 22:06 |
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| sdake | fungi is there a script in the governance repo that is fun to create it? If so, I'll look at fixing | 22:06 |
| sdake | probably a problem with a null set or something for i18n | 22:07 |
| fungi | sdake: tox -e venv python setup.py build_sphinx | 22:07 |
| sdake | fungi thanks | 22:08 |
| * sdake goes off to learn how sphinx works - groan | 22:08 | |
| sdake | fungi does every update to the repo generate new docs? | 22:08 |
| sdake | or only to the projects.yaml file | 22:08 |
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| fungi | sdake: every update to the repo | 22:09 |
| sdake | nice | 22:09 |
| sdake | so if i fix it kolla will show up ;) | 22:09 |
| sdake | fungi thanks again you rock :) | 22:09 |
| fungi | sdake: also you get a docs draft result linked for successful docs check job on it | 22:09 |
| sdake | how do you do a docs check? | 22:09 |
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| fungi | so you can preview your fix linked from code review | 22:09 |
| sdake | never done that one | 22:10 |
| sdake | docs-check ? | 22:10 |
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| fungi | sdake: no, upload a change and wait for it to run gate-governance-docs on it, then follow the hyperlink | 22:10 |
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| sdake | cool | 22:11 |
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| fungi | looking at the log, it seems like it successfully uploaded reference/projects/index.htm; | 22:11 |
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| fungi | er, .html | 22:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Use automaton 0.5.0 https://review.openstack.org/207589 | 22:12 |
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| fungi | when i generate the docs locally from the tip of master, i'm getting an entry in that file for Kolla | 22:13 |
| sdake | the gate is out to get kolla! ;-) | 22:13 |
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| fungi | sdake: oh! i know what's happened | 22:14 |
| fungi | we have a race with our publishers | 22:14 |
| sdake | fungi i read the logs, no scp errors on index.html | 22:14 |
| fungi | righth | 22:15 |
| fungi | if multiple changes are approved to a repo they all get chucked into the post pipeline at almost the same time. if it takes the first one slightly longer to run than the second, you end up replacing the newer content with slightly older content | 22:15 |
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| fungi | i'm looking now for proof | 22:15 |
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| davideagnello | hello, this patch needs one more core reviewer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201285/2 | 22:16 |
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| jeblair | fungi: we should make a new pipeline manager for zuul for that | 22:16 |
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| fungi | sdake: http://logs.openstack.org/47/476a05215c2cec234aa5aa8deacf8cffc0d8cc80/post/static-governance-publish/ccd9dc5/console.html.gz#_2015-08-05_01_45_06_975 was the parent change | 22:17 |
| fungi | sdake: http://logs.openstack.org/0c/0cf4af185936675e681f344b94efb9335dbc043c/post/static-governance-publish/53c9416/console.html.gz#_2015-08-05_01_44_29_148 was the kolla change | 22:17 |
| jeblair | fungi: something like: no more than 2 items for a given project, only start jobs for the leading item, if a new item arrives for the project, replace the trailing item. | 22:17 |
| sdake | fungi I see so two jobs merged at the same time | 22:18 |
| fungi | sdake: so that's exactly what happened in this case | 22:18 |
| fungi | the parent of the kolla change had its projects index uploaded about two seconds after | 22:18 |
| jeblair | could probably save a lot of nodes that way too | 22:18 |
| sdake | cool | 22:18 |
| fungi | jeblair: i can't remember now why we decided that having it operate on the branch tip state at the time the job runs would be suboptimal | 22:19 |
| fungi | sdake: so anyway, the next time something merges to the governance repo, it'll be fixed. eventually consistent documentation | 22:19 |
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| jeblair | fungi: well, it's not what you want for coverage | 22:19 |
| jeblair | fungi: so we could split coverage and the tip-publish jobs into different pipelines | 22:20 |
| sdake | i have a bug fix for governance repo in my queue | 22:20 |
| sdake | i'll just update the docs with that ;) | 22:20 |
| sdake | its -1 atm but easy to fix to +2 | 22:20 |
| sdake | fungi thanks for root causing that, I would have never figreed that out | 22:20 |
| jeblair | arosen: this is not ringing a bell for me | 22:20 |
| jeblair | sdake: heh, fungi didn't cause it. :) | 22:20 |
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| jeblair | there must be a neologism for when verbing goes awry | 22:21 |
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| fungi | jeblair: yeah, something for jobs which produce a common artifact after a change merges (publish documentation, upload a branch tarball, et cetera) | 22:21 |
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| jeblair | fungi: (oh, also we want whatever set of jobs runs for artifact publishing to use the same commit for improved sanity; so if the tarball and docs jobs end up running 30 mins apart due to starvation, it's better for them to run on the commit rather than the tip) | 22:22 |
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| sdake | jeblair i dind't suggest fungi caused the problem I dont think - if I did I didn't intend to | 22:27 |
| sdake | what I mean is he root caused the problem i was seeing | 22:27 |
| sdake | twittering now "OH: eventually consistent documentation" | 22:28 |
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| mordred | clarkb: it doesn't lose sudo -H - ansible's --sudo option runs under -H | 22:35 |
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| mordred | rcarrillocruz, jeblair, fungi: re: installing pip - I could go either way with the modules we have declaring or not declaring that pip needs to be installed (although I lean towards modules that use pip declarind a dependency on pip) | 22:39 |
| mordred | however, I feel VERY strongly that we should not create modules that declare an OS distro pacakge dependnecy on pip since those will break us | 22:39 |
| clarkb | mordred: gotcha | 22:39 |
| mordred | if we declare pip depends in our puppet, it needs to be rich enough to understand that we want pip/get-pp instsalled pip | 22:40 |
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| mordred | if we can't get that right, we should not declare pip depends in our puppet | 22:40 |
| dstufft | pip 1.0 is the best pip | 22:40 |
| dstufft | obviousl | 22:41 |
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| krotscheck | nibalizer: I'm curious about your dislike for schedule{}. | 22:45 |
| mordred | nibalizer: I am too - it looked neat to me | 22:45 |
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| krotscheck | I personally feel it's useful, because as someone who's building a puppet module, I don't have access to how frequently the agent runs. | 22:46 |
| krotscheck | Mind you, me saying "Oh this can only run between 1-2 AM seems, now in retrospect, a bit silly, because since I can't guarantee when the agent runs, I can also not guarantee that it'll execute in that time period. | 22:46 |
| mordred | rcarrillocruz: also, YES PLEASE push up infra-ansible somewhere. honestly, I'd just push it as a patch to system-config and not a new repo in stackforge, but whatever you want | 22:46 |
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| jeblair | mordred, rcarrillocruz: yeah, system-config sounds good -- at least, for what i imagine we're talking about | 22:47 |
| mordred | rcarrillocruz: I very much want launch_node.py to diaf and be replaced by a thing which runs ansible when we land patches to a yaml file(s) that describes the machines in the system | 22:48 |
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| krotscheck | mordred: That almost sounds like Ansible Tower. | 22:49 |
| mordred | krotscheck: well, kinda. I'm not interested in a clicky interface to do things | 22:50 |
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| krotscheck | mordred: You wound me! | 22:50 |
| mordred | krotscheck: and I don't really want it to have a REST API so that I can trigger playbooks | 22:50 |
| krotscheck | mordred: Also, you are in Bali | 22:50 |
| mordred | krotscheck: :) | 22:51 |
| mordred | krotscheck: clicky interfaces are great | 22:51 |
| krotscheck | mordred: STOP BEING AT WORK | 22:51 |
| * mordred hands krotscheck a balinese tiger | 22:51 | |
| krotscheck | Urm... what am I supposed to do with thOH GOD MY FACE | 22:51 |
| jhesketh | Morning | 22:51 |
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| mordred | krotscheck: I'm having my morning "I just woke up and sandy is still asleep so I'll watch the rain in the jungle while I IRC with people and hand them tigers" morning | 22:51 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: nice entrance | 22:52 |
| timrc | zaro, Thanks much for the review!! | 22:52 |
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| krotscheck | *tiger | 22:52 |
| jhesketh | lol | 22:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Weidong Shao proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: change compass irc meeting time https://review.openstack.org/211775 | 22:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Test to try capture occasional failures https://review.openstack.org/211776 | 22:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Frederic Lepied proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Fix git-review -d behavior with branches https://review.openstack.org/191506 | 23:03 |
| melaks | hey i'm trying to git review -s on a project and I keep getting errors from git-review Could not connect to gerrit at ssh://melnikalex@review.openstack.org:29418/openstack/cue.git | 23:03 |
| melaks | Traceback (most recent call last): | 23:03 |
| melaks | File "/Users/SL/anaconda/bin/git-review", line 11, in <module> | 23:03 |
| melaks | sys.exit(main()) | 23:03 |
| melaks | File "/Users/SL/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/git_review/cmd.py", line 1534, in main | 23:03 |
| melaks | sys.exit(e.EXIT_CODE) | 23:03 |
| melaks | AttributeError: 'GitReviewException' object has no attribute 'EXIT_CODE' | 23:03 |
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| krotscheck | hogepodge: Huhn. Yeah, so, looks like I baked an ubuntu version check right into the module. | 23:04 |
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| jeblair | mordred: have you had a chance to look into rax dib upload issues? | 23:06 |
| mordred | jeblair: oh! I did not know we were having such thigs | 23:07 |
| jeblair | mordred: i think you volunteered to do that 2 meetings ago, but considering you have been on vacation, i understand if it slipped your mind. in fact, i'd almost rather you say "of course not, i'm on vacation you insensitive clod!". :) | 23:08 |
| hogepodge | krotscheck: I often do the same with centos ;-) | 23:09 |
| jeblair | mordred: but i'm just trying to help you have whatever kind of vacation suits you best | 23:09 |
| mordred | jeblair: I appreciate that! | 23:09 |
| mordred | jeblair: I may have forgotten what the issue under investigation was ... I think we already have retries added for 396 errors | 23:10 |
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| jeblair | mordred: fungi said it looks like we have uploads from today and a week ago, so maybe check the error logs from yesterday? | 23:11 |
| mordred | jeblair: nod | 23:11 |
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| jeblair | jhesketh: i have a really dumb and basic question -- is there a reason we're implementing 'require-all-approvals' rather than, say 'exclude-approval' if the goal is really 'negative requirements'? | 23:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Test dib image builds with devstack too. https://review.openstack.org/211754 | 23:12 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: or, better word, "reject approval" | 23:13 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: (where "reject: approval: code-review: -1" means that a change with a -1 would be rejected by the pipeline) | 23:13 |
| lifeless | Nakato: morning; how did the nova test go? | 23:14 |
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| jeblair | jhesketh: something about the requirement that approvals be listed as strings seems weird and doesn't otherwise fit with the yaml model (we're implementing our own parser to accomplish this) | 23:15 |
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| mordred | jeblair: if I were logs for image uploads, where would I be? | 23:17 |
| mordred | jeblair: beacuse I don't seem to be in rax-iad.ubuntu-trusty.log | 23:18 |
| jeblair | mordred: /var/log/nodepool/debug.log | 23:18 |
| mordred | jeblair: gotcha | 23:18 |
| jeblair | mordred: i think the image-specific logs terminate at the completion of the build | 23:18 |
| jeblair | hrm | 23:18 |
| jeblair | why is there a rax-iad.ubuntu-trusty.log ? | 23:18 |
| mordred | they do - and then there are 0-byte logs for each of the combination of provider dib name | 23:18 |
| mordred | it's a great question :) | 23:19 |
| jeblair | mordred: indeed, provider-image combinations don't make sense for dib | 23:19 |
| jeblair | this sounds like a bug | 23:19 |
| clarkb | bug in the log config not nodepool I don't think | 23:19 |
| jeblair | possibly just a bug in the automatic log configuration | 23:19 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yeah | 23:19 |
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| Nakato | lifeless: It looks good to me. http://logs.openstack.org/92/211392/1/experimental/bindep-nova-python27/76adf7b/console.html | 23:19 |
| mordred | jeblair: do you happen to know off the top of your head a thing I shoudl grep for to find uploads? if not, I can certainly figure it out | 23:20 |
| jeblair | mordred: i don't | 23:21 |
| krotscheck | hogepodge: Precise doesn't support the necessary version of node? | 23:21 |
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| jeblair | log = logging.getLogger("nodepool.DiskImageUpdater") | 23:21 |
| jeblair | mordred: ^ | 23:22 |
| jeblair | not sure why that's called an Updater rather than an Uploader | 23:22 |
| mordred | jeblair: me either | 23:22 |
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| mordred | jeblair: 2015-08-10 17:56:54,297 DEBUG nodepool.DiskImageUpdater: Updating image devstack-precise in hpcloud-b1 | 23:23 |
| mordred | jeblair: I thnk it does both | 23:24 |
| mordred | oh - wait - devstack-precise is dib? | 23:24 |
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| jeblair | self.log.info("Uploading dib image id: %s from %s for %s in %s" % | 23:25 |
| jeblair | mordred: that's probably the juicy bit | 23:25 |
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| clarkb | Nakato: we can take the pip freeze at http://logs.openstack.org/92/211392/1/experimental/bindep-nova-python27/76adf7b/console.html#_2015-08-11_02_14_25_450 and diff against uppre constraints | 23:25 |
| lifeless | well, the version of upper constraints at the time the job ran | 23:26 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: left comments on https://review.openstack.org/211108 | 23:26 |
| lifeless | note that blacklist items may differ | 23:26 |
| krotscheck | mordred, jeblair, hogepodge: So, to run the current deployment of refstack's UI, we need to run the node build tools on the deployment box. The required version of node is not supported on precise, sadly. Since refstack's also not a split app (www vs. py), we don't really have an option of package-tarball-then-unzip. We could manually add the joyent PPA and install from there... is that likely to be a problem? Can you think of other alternati | 23:26 |
| mordred | raise ClientException('No tenant specified') | 23:26 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: the first is the source of the -1; the second i feel bad about but i do think we should have the discussion even if it's late. | 23:26 |
| mordred | ClientException: No tenant specified | 23:26 |
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| mordred | krotscheck: does it need to run on precise? | 23:27 |
| krotscheck | mordred: Nope, never. But there's a job that makes it test on precise. | 23:27 |
| krotscheck | So we can remove that job. | 23:27 |
| jeblair | krotscheck, mordred: i think all things considered we would like new servers to run on trusty | 23:27 |
| krotscheck | But then it'd be a special openstack-infra/puppet-* snowflake | 23:27 |
| mordred | krotscheck: I vote on removing the precise test | 23:27 |
| krotscheck | (I think) | 23:27 |
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| krotscheck | I'm for that. jeblair? | 23:28 |
| mordred | jeblair: I'm going to chalk up uploads working to shade 0.12 | 23:28 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: what test is problematic? | 23:29 |
| mordred | jeblair: the error we were getting had to do with some bad auth stuff in swift client constructor and we fixed a non-zero amount of that in 0.12 | 23:29 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: gate-infra-puppet-apply-precise | 23:29 |
| jeblair | mordred: are we running shade 0.12? (based on last nodepool restart?) | 23:29 |
| clarkb | which I approved the fix in nodepool to consume | 23:29 |
| clarkb | jeblair: not yet | 23:29 |
| krotscheck | I _think_ | 23:30 |
| clarkb | 0.12.0 was installed today, so next restart will grab it | 23:30 |
| clarkb | it was installed when puppet installed crinkle's fix for 0.12.0 | 23:30 |
| krotscheck | Actually, I have to let hogepodge answer that question, I don't recall and I have to go do doctor things. | 23:30 |
| krotscheck | So... postpone until morning :) | 23:30 |
| mordred | jeblair, clarkb: hrm. then I have no idea why uploads failed before but work now | 23:31 |
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| jeblair | krotscheck, hogepodge: okay -- the apply tests only runs on node types we say a given server defn uses, so if we say a node runs on trusty, it only exercises that code on the trusty test node | 23:31 |
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| jhesketh | jeblair: hmm, good point/questions. I'll give some thought and put it into the review | 23:32 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: but yeah, we can pick up later :) | 23:32 |
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| mordred | jeblair, clarkb: http://paste.openstack.org/show/412629/ | 23:33 |
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| SlickNik | Hey there folks —I'm wondering if I managed to do something to the zuul check queue. | 23:33 |
| jeblair | mordred: that seems like the sort of error that we would have to deliberately fix. | 23:34 |
| SlickNik | There are quite a few reviews sitting at 0 minutes even though the individual jobs therein have all completed. | 23:34 |
| mordred | jeblair: you'd think | 23:35 |
| mordred | jeblair: except 2015-08-10 19:40:05,460 INFO nodepool.DiskImageUpdater: Image template-ubuntu-trusty-1439229475 in rax-ord is ready | 23:35 |
| jeblair | SlickNik: looking | 23:35 |
| SlickNik | jeblair: thanks. Much appreciated! | 23:36 |
| jlvillal | tonyb, Regarding: https://review.openstack.org/211273 Looks like two UX people have given it a +1. One of them is listed as the owner of the meeting being deleted. | 23:37 |
| jlvillal | tonyb, Thanks for your help on this. | 23:38 |
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| tonyb | jlvillal: Yeah I have the tab open to approve. | 23:38 |
| jlvillal | tonyb, Woo hoo :) | 23:38 |
| tonyb | jlvillal: I was hoping deva would respond to michael but that's not critical | 23:39 |
| jlvillal | tonyb, Oh. The meeting time was a decision already made previously. | 23:39 |
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| tonyb | jlvillal: okay. | 23:40 |
| jlvillal | tonyb, This is just taking that into account. It was already discussed on the mailing list and the decision was posted to change it. | 23:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Madhusudhan Kandadai proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Set experimental job for neutron-vpnaas api tests https://review.openstack.org/211767 | 23:40 |
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| jeblair | zuul is moving very slowly and i don't yet see why | 23:47 |
| tonyb | jeblair: glad uit's not my imagination | 23:50 |
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| jeblair | i think the main thread is stuck | 23:56 |
| jeblair | yeah, it's sitting in paramiko waiting for an sshd read from gerrit while reporting a change | 23:58 |
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