| opendevreview | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Reproducer for bug 2003991 unshelving offloaded instance https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/872470 | 01:09 |
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| opendevreview | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Enforce quota usage from placement when unshelving https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/872471 | 01:09 |
| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/nova master: Add integrated job to test the Nova RBAC old defaults https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/883557 | 03:31 |
| WJeffs | Hey all, I have a unique case, where I need to allocate 380 cores to a x86 VM has anyone got around the i440fx or q35 limits? | 09:51 |
| opendevreview | Amit Uniyal proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Reproducer for dangling volumes https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/881457 | 10:24 |
| opendevreview | Amit Uniyal proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Delete dangling bdms https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/882284 | 10:24 |
| sean-k-mooney | WJeffs: it should be possibel to do that in the newer releases of nova | 10:30 |
| sean-k-mooney | if we mreged the patch im thinking of let me check | 10:31 |
| WJeffs | sean-k-mooney: were already on Zed, I'm wondering if its due to the kernel setting "KVM_MAX_VCPU" | 10:31 |
| WJeffs | sean-k-mooney: were already on Zed, I'm wondering if its due to the kernel setting "KVM_MAX_VCPU" | 10:32 |
| sean-k-mooney | WJeffs: if you enable the viommu in the guest https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/zed/implemented/libvirt-viommu-device.html#proposed-change | 10:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | we also enable the eim feature | 10:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | https://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#iommu-devices | 10:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | The eim attribute (with possible values on and off) can be used to configure Extended Interrupt Mode. A q35 domain with split I/O APIC (as described in Hypervisor features), and both interrupt remapping and EIM turned on for the IOMMU, will be able to use more than 255 vCPUs. Since 3.4.0 (QEMU/KVM only) | 10:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | WJeffs: im not sure if that is enough to allow more then 255 vcpus or if you also need to have a machine type and kernel that is set up to deal with that | 10:35 |
| sean-k-mooney | WJeffs: buy ya try adding hw:viommu_model=auto to the flavor or hw_viommu_model=auto to the image | 10:36 |
| sean-k-mooney | this is new in zed | 10:36 |
| sean-k-mooney | WJeffs: we havve not tested that by the way we just did not see any harm in enabling it when enabling the viommu so we made the feature as generic as possible | 10:39 |
| WJeffs | Thanks, I will give it a try. No luck yet. I need to check this kernel has the supported part for more than 288 cores too - I'm pushing to get a 6.x kernel to support the new AMDs currently from my kernel team. | 10:45 |
| sean-k-mooney | ack, we dont often have request to supprot that many cores so your kind of forging your own path here. | 10:51 |
| WJeffs | Yea, I'm not surprised, its a pretty extreme case. Sometimes asking here can save me hours of work | 10:52 |
| sean-k-mooney | if you figure out what combination of libvirt features we need to enable im sure we could actully add support for this usecause but i personlaly have not tested over 64 cores | 10:52 |
| WJeffs | I will take a look and report back if its anything major. | 10:53 |
| WJeffs | Cheers for your help | 10:53 |
| sean-k-mooney | WJeffs: hehe i feel the same about random blog posts i find about obsucre virt/hardware features | 10:53 |
| opendevreview | Amit Uniyal proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Reproducer for dangling volumes https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/881457 | 10:54 |
| opendevreview | Amit Uniyal proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Delete dangling bdms https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/882284 | 10:54 |
| WJeffs | sean-k-mooney: Generally its way over my head. And I try to stay out of it. | 10:54 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/wallaby: Reproducer for bug 1983753 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/853273 | 11:21 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/wallaby: Update RequestSpec.pci_request for resize https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/853274 | 11:21 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/wallaby: Add reno for fixing bug 1941005 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/853275 | 11:21 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/wallaby: Reproducer for bug 1983753 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/853273 | 11:35 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/wallaby: Update RequestSpec.pci_request for resize https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/853274 | 11:35 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/wallaby: Add reno for fixing bug 1941005 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/853275 | 11:35 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: Reproducer for bug 1983753 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/883904 | 11:45 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: Update RequestSpec.pci_request for resize https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/883905 | 11:45 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: Add reno for fixing bug 1941005 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/883906 | 11:45 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/ussuri: Reproducer for bug 1983753 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/883908 | 11:56 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/ussuri: Update RequestSpec.pci_request for resize https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/883909 | 11:56 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/ussuri: Add reno for fixing bug 1941005 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/883930 | 11:56 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Mounting the shares as part of the initialization process https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/880075 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Deletion of associated share mappings on instance deletion https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/881472 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Attach Manila shares via virtiofs (api) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/836830 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Check shares support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/850499 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add metadata for shares https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/850500 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add instance.share_attach notification https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/850501 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add instance.share_detach notification https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/851028 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add shares to InstancePayload https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/851029 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add helper methods to attach/detach shares https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/852085 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add libvirt test to ensure metadata are working. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/852086 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add virt/libvirt error test cases https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/852087 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add share_info parameter to reboot method for each driver (driver part) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/854823 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Support rebooting an instance with shares (compute and API part) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/854824 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add instance.share_attach_error notification https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/860282 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add instance.share_detach_error notification https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/860283 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add share_info parameter to resume method for each driver (driver part) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/860284 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Support resuming an instance with shares (compute and API part) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/860285 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Add helper methods to rescue/unrescue shares https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/860286 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Support rescuing an instance with shares (driver part) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/860287 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Support rescuing an instance with shares (compute and API part) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/860288 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Allow to mount manila share using Cephfs protocol https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/883862 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | ribaudr proposed openstack/nova master: Docs about Manila shares API usage https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/871642 | 12:04 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/train: Reproducer for bug 1983753 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/883932 | 12:13 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/train: Update RequestSpec.pci_request for resize https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/883933 | 12:13 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/train: Add reno for fixing bug 1941005 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/883934 | 12:13 |
| *** han-guangyu_ is now known as han-guangyu | 13:42 | |
| opendevreview | Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui proposed openstack/nova master: [wip]network: convert usage of neutronclient to openstacksdk https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/882714 | 13:51 |
| sahid | o/ I initiated a work to get ride of neutronclient and use openstacksdk. I started the work by isolating the work on security_groups.py | 13:54 |
| sahid | before to start adressing allllll the tests :-) I would appreciate to have some eyes on it, at least to ensure that I'm in the good direction | 13:55 |
| sahid | I have made some schance on neutron fixture, but I'm not sure on how to deal with the is_admin point since get_sdk_adapter does not have the context | 13:57 |
| sahid | s/schance/changes | 13:58 |
| bauzas | sahid: I'll try to do it later this week | 14:01 |
| bauzas | sahid: thanks for working hard on it btw. | 14:02 |
| sahid | cool thanks bauzas I think it's going to be long run work anyway, tke for your time | 14:02 |
| sahid | :-) | 14:02 |
| ykarel | bauzas, sean-k-mooney when you get chance please also revisit https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/868419, i incorporated the comments in latest PS | 14:10 |
| ykarel | thx in advance | 14:10 |
| bauzas | ykarel: noted | 14:15 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova stable/victoria: CI: fix backport validator for new branch naming https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/882969 | 14:21 |
| bauzas | reminder: nova meeting in 54 mins here :) | 15:06 |
| opendevreview | Amit Uniyal proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Reproducer for dangling volumes https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/881457 | 15:55 |
| opendevreview | Amit Uniyal proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Delete dangling bdms https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/882284 | 15:55 |
| bauzas | #startmeeting nova | 16:01 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Tue May 23 16:01:33 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bauzas. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 16:01 |
| bauzas | good meeting folks | 16:01 |
| dansmith | o/ | 16:01 |
| bauzas | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:01 |
| auniyal_ | o/ | 16:02 |
| Uggla_ | o/ | 16:03 |
| gibi | o/ | 16:04 |
| bauzas | ok, starting (sorry was reviewing some patch) | 16:04 |
| bauzas | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 16:04 |
| bauzas | #info No Critical bug | 16:04 |
| bauzas | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New 15 new untriaged bugs (+0 since the last meeting) | 16:04 |
| bauzas | #info Add yourself in the team bug roster if you want to help https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-bug-triage-roster | 16:05 |
| elodilles | o/ | 16:05 |
| bauzas | elodilles: anything to report ? | 16:05 |
| elodilles | nothing | 16:05 |
| elodilles | i was only able to triage one bug :/ | 16:05 |
| bauzas | no worries | 16:06 |
| bauzas | moving on then | 16:06 |
| bauzas | auniyal: can you do a bit of triage this week ? | 16:06 |
| auniyal_ | yes | 16:07 |
| bauzas | cool thanks | 16:07 |
| bauzas | #topic Gate status | 16:07 |
| bauzas | oops | 16:07 |
| bauzas | #undo | 16:07 |
| opendevmeet | Removing item from minutes: #info Add yourself in the team bug roster if you want to help https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-bug-triage-roster | 16:07 |
| bauzas | #info bug baton is being passed to auniyal | 16:07 |
| bauzas | doh | 16:07 |
| bauzas | #info Add yourself in the team bug roster if you want to help https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-bug-triage-roster | 16:07 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/train: Reproducer for bug 1983753 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/883932 | 16:08 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/train: Update RequestSpec.pci_request for resize https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/883933 | 16:08 |
| opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/train: Add reno for fixing bug 1941005 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/883934 | 16:08 |
| bauzas | #topic Gate status | 16:08 |
| bauzas | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure Nova gate bugs | 16:08 |
| bauzas | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-ci-failures | 16:08 |
| dansmith | I think CI has been pretty decent lately.. just yesterday we merged the mysql memory de-tune by default | 16:08 |
| bauzas | gibi: dansmith: or others, do you want to discuss some failures ? | 16:08 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova stable/ussuri: CI: fix backport validator for new branch naming https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/882970 | 16:09 |
| bauzas | dansmith: excellent | 16:09 |
| dansmith | also, I got an update on the powerkvm CI from the owners | 16:09 |
| bauzas | cool, so ? | 16:09 |
| dansmith | it's known to be totally broken right now, apparently due to libraries dropping ppc support | 16:09 |
| dansmith | not sure what the outlook on that is, but I've suggested disabling it until it can possibly run successfully | 16:09 |
| bauzas | ++ | 16:09 |
| gibi | bauzas: on my side I looked at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2015065/comments/8 | 16:10 |
| dansmith | also, not supported on rhel9, and I thought it was a dead product now, so I'm not sure why there's any reason to keep running it, but they do want to keep it running if/when they fix the library stuff | 16:10 |
| bauzas | dansmith: yeah, that's not that it's holding our gate, it's just confusing | 16:10 |
| dansmith | meaning it can only run on rhel8, nothing newer | 16:10 |
| dansmith | bauzas: yep, and creating noise | 16:10 |
| bauzas | we had some CI interface in the paste where we were gathering results of 3rd party CI | 16:11 |
| bauzas | but afaics, this is dead horse noxw | 16:11 |
| bauzas | ciwatch.mmedvede.net/project?project=nova is timing out for me | 16:11 |
| bauzas | dansmith: on another point, I've seen good progress on bumping cirros | 16:12 |
| dansmith | yeah I was going to ask gmann about that - I saw a test patch that seemed successful; | 16:12 |
| bauzas | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/881437?usp=email Cirros is now bumped to 0.6.1 | 16:12 |
| bauzas | a revert of a revert | 16:13 |
| bauzas | keep following, dudes :) | 16:13 |
| dansmith | ah okay | 16:13 |
| dansmith | so it'll be interesting to see if that improves our guest kernel crash issues | 16:13 |
| bauzas | yup, related is https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2006467 | 16:13 |
| bauzas | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2018612 | 16:14 |
| dansmith | yeah | 16:14 |
| bauzas | and some other IIRC | 16:14 |
| bauzas | anyway, I'll try to look at it when I have time | 16:14 |
| bauzas | gibi: want to discuss your recent findings on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2015065/comments/8 for the group ? | 16:15 |
| gibi | you a summary | 16:15 |
| gibi | ahh | 16:15 |
| gibi | so | 16:15 |
| gibi | just a summary | 16:15 |
| gibi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2015065/comments/8 feels like an eventlet issue | 16:15 |
| bauzas | it was just a question, people can click :) | 16:15 |
| gibi | so I opened https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/issues/798 | 16:15 |
| gibi | waiting for the maintainer to say my reproduction is valid or not in pure eventlet | 16:16 |
| bauzas | gibi: kudos for your detective skills | 16:16 |
| gibi | kudos to ykarel for getting the stacktrace of the stuck thread | 16:16 |
| bauzas | indeed | 16:17 |
| bauzas | okay, anyting else to mention on failures before we brag too much ? | 16:17 |
| bauzas | nah, ok | 16:17 |
| bauzas | #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fnova&project=openstack%2Fplacement&pipeline=periodic-weekly Nova&Placement periodic jobs status | 16:18 |
| bauzas | the centos9 job on fips had a blip | 16:18 |
| bauzas | with a fun "/usr/bin/python3.9: No module named pip" | 16:18 |
| bauzas | #link https://zuul.openstack.org/build/23afe450b9cc457bb094563b3f45aafd | 16:19 |
| dansmith | blip? on the qa meeting just now it sounded unresolved | 16:19 |
| bauzas | possibly | 16:19 |
| bauzas | I just saw the blip, not the whole Thanos universe clap | 16:19 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova stable/wallaby: fup: Print message logging uncaught nova-manage exceptions https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/877334 | 16:21 |
| bauzas | doh, can't query https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?skip=0 with job=centos | 16:21 |
| bauzas | and I don't know if it supports regexs | 16:21 |
| bauzas | anyway | 16:22 |
| bauzas | my Zuul query foo is rusty, so moving on | 16:22 |
| bauzas | and I'll lurk #openstack-qa meanwhile | 16:23 |
| bauzas | #info Please look at the gate failures and file a bug report with the gate-failure tag. | 16:23 |
| bauzas | #info STOP DOING BLIND RECHECKS aka. 'recheck' https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/testing.html#how-to-handle-test-failures | 16:23 |
| bauzas | that's it for gate | 16:23 |
| bauzas | #topic Release Planning | 16:23 |
| bauzas | #link https://releases.openstack.org/bobcat/schedule.html | 16:23 |
| bauzas | #info Nova deadlines are set in the above schedule | 16:23 |
| bauzas | worth saying now : | 16:23 |
| bauzas | #info Nova spec review day in two weeks | 16:23 |
| bauzas | you're all noticed | 16:24 |
| bauzas | take your pens and your paper, and write your best poetry | 16:24 |
| bauzas | spec freeze will only be on the first week of July | 16:25 |
| bauzas | noted ? | 16:25 |
| bauzas | so, | 16:26 |
| bauzas | #topic pPTG Planning | 16:26 |
| gibi | pPTG? | 16:26 |
| gibi | physical? partial? | 16:26 |
| bauzas | I will be quick, I have two questions, one related to the other | 16:26 |
| bauzas | gibi: hah, both :p | 16:26 |
| gibi | ppPTG | 16:26 |
| bauzas | Who will be at the pPTG in Vancouver ? | 16:26 |
| bauzas | and related, | 16:27 |
| bauzas | #link https://ptg.opendev.org/ptg.html Should we book some table for the PTG ? | 16:27 |
| bauzas | I've got one email from the Foundation asking to whether I would want to book a table | 16:27 |
| bauzas | and honestly, I don't know what to do | 16:27 |
| bauzas | the Forum will compete with the PTG | 16:27 |
| gibi | book a table, then might be unused | 16:28 |
| bauzas | the whole 2 days ? works for me | 16:28 |
| bauzas | at least I'd have a spot to sit down | 16:28 |
| gibi | :) | 16:29 |
| gibi | I think that is the exact reason to publish where to find the PTL | 16:29 |
| bauzas | that's a bit premature but I should start to gather information about topics that people wanna bring at the PTG and who could be present | 16:29 |
| bauzas | and if some people that are NOT at the PTG wanna chime on such topics, that would give us some insight too | 16:30 |
| bauzas | #action bauzas to prepare a PTG etherpad for calling about topics and attendace | 16:30 |
| bauzas | that's it, I wanted to keep it short | 16:31 |
| bauzas | #topic Review priorities | 16:31 |
| bauzas | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/status:open+(project:openstack/nova+OR+project:openstack/placement+OR+project:openstack/os-traits+OR+project:openstack/os-resource-classes+OR+project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/osc-placement)+(label:Review-Priority%252B1+OR+label:Review-Priority%252B2) | 16:31 |
| bauzas | #info As a reminder, cores eager to review changes can +1 to indicate their interest, +2 for committing to the review | 16:31 |
| bauzas | #topic Stable Branches | 16:32 |
| bauzas | elodilles: your turn ! | 16:32 |
| elodilles | o/ | 16:32 |
| elodilles | #info stable nova release patches merged on Wednesday: 2023.1 Antelope (27.1.0), Zed (26.2.0), Yoga (25.2.0) | 16:32 |
| bauzas | huzzah | 16:32 |
| elodilles | so these have been released ^^^ \o/ | 16:32 |
| elodilles | #info stable/wallaby is unblocked as gmann's nova-ceph-multistore job fix has merged (thanks!) -- https://review.opendev.org/871920 | 16:32 |
| bauzas | those include the CVE 2023-2088 fixes, I'm happy to have them now :) | 16:32 |
| elodilles | bauzas: yepp | 16:33 |
| bauzas | huzzah again | 16:33 |
| elodilles | :] | 16:33 |
| bauzas | about the ceph-multistore problem | 16:33 |
| elodilles | yepp-yepp | 16:33 |
| elodilles | #info stable/train is blocked by failing openstacksdk-functional-devstack job | 16:33 |
| bauzas | doh | 16:33 |
| elodilles | this is probably because of heat's stable/train eol | 16:33 |
| elodilles | i'm looking at multiple ways of possibilities to unblock the gate | 16:34 |
| elodilles | will see which is the best / working :P | 16:34 |
| elodilles | and the general info: | 16:34 |
| elodilles | #info stable branch status / gate failures tracking etherpad: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-stable-branch-ci | 16:34 |
| elodilles | EOM | 16:35 |
| bauzas | about Train, given some parts of the universe started to EOL it | 16:35 |
| bauzas | then, my question is, should we copy them ? | 16:35 |
| elodilles | heat EOL'd their ussuri as well | 16:36 |
| bauzas | I know that my paycheck comes partly from Train, but that's still a question to me | 16:36 |
| elodilles | bauzas: i still say that until we can merge patches (hehh) we can keep it open o:) | 16:36 |
| bauzas | stable/train also doesn't include the previous CVE fix you know ;) | 16:37 |
| elodilles | hmmm, i forgot that | 16:38 |
| elodilles | though there are some who still wanted rocky to accept patches ;) | 16:38 |
| bauzas | I'm not only talking of the brick CVE | 16:38 |
| bauzas | I'm also taking of the VMDK CVE | 16:38 |
| bauzas | if people want to risk their lifes, I'm OK | 16:39 |
| elodilles | good point | 16:39 |
| bauzas | but that is still two serious security flaws that haven't been fixed | 16:39 |
| elodilles | i cannot ague with that | 16:39 |
| sean-k-mooney | i would may keep it alive for a few more months and ask operators at the summit | 16:39 |
| sean-k-mooney | but i could see use retiring it after bobcat in either case | 16:40 |
| dansmith | I'm fine (and prefer) to keep branches available, but if we're maintaining part of it but not backporting critical CVEs it really sends a mixed message | 16:40 |
| bauzas | dansmith: that's my whole point | 16:40 |
| dansmith | mixed and confusing I would say | 16:40 |
| elodilles | dansmith: true | 16:40 |
| sean-k-mooney | the vmdk cve however makes me more inclided to say we should be keeping train | 16:41 |
| bauzas | dansmith: we can't reasonably say we're open to keep a branch open and accept backports if the most critical ones aren't done | 16:41 |
| sean-k-mooney | we fixed it downstream in our train based product but it causes a lot fo pain because it had a bug that would have been caught if we fixed it upstream instead | 16:42 |
| dansmith | bauzas: I just like the branches to be open over tags personally, but if people see "last commit X days ago" they're likely to assume that some of those commits are critical fixes | 16:42 |
| bauzas | sean-k-mooney: train doesn't include the vmdk fix | 16:42 |
| sean-k-mooney | i know | 16:42 |
| bauzas | ah, missed your poiint | 16:42 |
| bauzas | sean-k-mooney: truly, we missed something downstream because we lacked some upstream backport | 16:43 |
| sean-k-mooney | if we had fixed the cve via the upstream backport process it would have caught the missing patch we had downstream | 16:43 |
| bauzas | but the upstream branch isn't really arguably in a good shape if the two most major CVEs that I know since a decade aren't fixed | 16:43 |
| sean-k-mooney | well they could be fixed | 16:44 |
| sean-k-mooney | we just dont have peopel volentering to fix it | 16:44 |
| bauzas | sean-k-mooney: true, and this hadn't been done because of the way we manage our dependencies upstream is tough | 16:44 |
| dansmith | right the point is that we're not meant to be maintaining these.. so we either need to do it, or stop *signaling* that we're doing it | 16:44 |
| bauzas | +1 | 16:45 |
| sean-k-mooney | yep | 16:45 |
| bauzas | the brick CVE isn't AFAIK proposed against train now | 16:45 |
| dansmith | so I guess I'll say I'm +1 for EOLing train | 16:45 |
| bauzas | so, honestly, if we want to keep train, let's do the efforts to backport both CVE fixes to train | 16:46 |
| dansmith | are we even sync/importing from train downstream anymore? | 16:46 |
| bauzas | don't look at me, I'm not rushing to do it | 16:46 |
| sean-k-mooney | we are | 16:46 |
| sean-k-mooney | but our last release that will do that is planed for q3 | 16:46 |
| sean-k-mooney | so after bobcat is release we wont be | 16:47 |
| bauzas | don't speak redhat greek in this channel please :) | 16:47 |
| sean-k-mooney | well the point being that we will stop consuming form the stable branch anyway in the next few months | 16:47 |
| dansmith | right | 16:47 |
| sean-k-mooney | for our downstream uses | 16:47 |
| bauzas | yeah, but we still don't provide the CVE fixes to it ? :) | 16:48 |
| sean-k-mooney | you know i orgianly wanted use to fix both of those on upstream train right | 16:48 |
| dansmith | sean-k-mooney: so then why didn't you? | 16:49 |
| sean-k-mooney | i asked the peopel that did the backprot to do it | 16:49 |
| bauzas | we all have priorities and I don't blame anyone | 16:49 |
| bauzas | particularly me, since I was owning the backports for the VMDK one and I intentionally skipped the train one | 16:50 |
| bauzas | because it would have required some oslo.utils release number belly dance | 16:50 |
| bauzas | and as a reminder, Extended Maintenance is clear on its intents | 16:51 |
| dansmith | bauzas: exactly | 16:51 |
| bauzas | https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#extended-maintenance | 16:51 |
| bauzas | anyway, seems we won't reach a consensus, but I can propose to send an email to openstack-discuss | 16:52 |
| bauzas | we'll see if people argue | 16:52 |
| * bauzas just hopes that operators read our mailing lists | 16:53 | |
| bauzas | #action bauzas to send an email to -discuss to gauge the freakiness of EOLing stable/train now | 16:53 |
| bauzas | I guess we're done with this hot topic | 16:54 |
| bauzas | #topic Open Discussion | 16:54 |
| bauzas | nothing on the agenda | 16:54 |
| bauzas | is anyone having a thought to share with the team ? | 16:55 |
| bauzas | looks not | 16:56 |
| bauzas | sorry this week I won't save too much of your time | 16:56 |
| bauzas | thanks all | 16:56 |
| bauzas | #endmeeting | 16:57 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Tue May 23 16:57:03 2023 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:57 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2023/nova.2023-05-23-16.01.html | 16:57 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2023/nova.2023-05-23-16.01.txt | 16:57 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2023/nova.2023-05-23-16.01.log.html | 16:57 |
| gibi | thanks | 16:58 |
| elodilles | thanks o/ | 16:58 |
| Uggla_ | thx | 16:59 |
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