Tuesday, 2025-09-23

opendevreviewyangjianfeng proposed openstack/nova master: Support reusing existing port binding during instance live-migration  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/96159301:14
opendevreviewyangjianfeng proposed openstack/nova master: Support reusing existing port binding during instance live-migration  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/96159301:20
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opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional reproducer for bug 2125030  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/96173406:12
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Move cleanup of vTPM secret from driver to compute  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/96200706:12
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add hw_tpm_secret_security image property  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94019606:14
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add hw:tpm_secret_security extra spec validation  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94019706:14
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support instances with `user` secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94250206:14
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support instances with `host` secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94179506:14
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add vtpm_secret_(uuid|value) to LibvirtLiveMigrateData  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95262806:14
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support live migration of `host` secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94148306:14
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support instances with `deployment` secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94202106:14
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support live migration of `deployment` secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/92577106:14
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: test live migration between hosts with different security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95262906:14
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: add late check for supported TPM secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95697506:14
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: DNM vtpm tempest  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95747706:14
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: bump service version and require it for live migration  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/96205106:14
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: WIP Opt-in to new TPM secret security via resize  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/96205206:14
opendevreviewPierre Riteau proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Fix typo in nova-manage command  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95556607:15
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UgglaNova meeting in ~45mn15:15
gibiI don't feel I can be productive here due to a parallel meeting but I have topics for the meeting. j'/16:00
gibi:/16:00
bauzasI can splitbrain 16:01
bauzas(heh, was a pun)16:01
Uggla#startmeeting nova16:01
opendevmeetMeeting started Tue Sep 23 16:01:58 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Uggla. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
opendevmeetUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'16:01
UgglaHello everyone16:02
bauzas\o16:02
bauzaskudos for Uggla as leading a meeting while he needs to listen to another one :)16:03
UgglaI know most of people are part of another meeting like me.16:03
elodilleso/16:03
Ugglaawaiting one more min.16:04
Uggla#topic Bugs (stuck/critical) 16:05
Uggla#info No Critical bug16:05
Uggla#topic Gate status 16:05
Uggla#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure Nova gate bugs 16:05
Uggla#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-ci-failures-minimal16:05
Uggla#link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fnova&project=openstack%2Fplacement&branch=stable%2F*&branch=master&pipeline=periodic-weekly&skip=0 Nova&Placement periodic jobs status16:06
Uggla#info Please look at the gate failures and file a bug report with the gate-failure tag.16:06
Uggla#info Please try to provide a meaningful comment when you recheck16:06
Uggla#info I have seen "nova-tox-py312-threading fails intermittently" https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2125185 from gibi16:06
bauzasyeah, we have another change from gibi16:06
UgglaI know ^ is linked to eventlet16:07
Ugglaso we will defer it to the eventlet topic.16:07
bauzasreview.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/961781 failed on gate pipeline, we need a recheck16:07
UgglaI hope gibi will be free at the moment16:07
UgglaAnything else about the gate ?16:08
bauzas-16:08
bauzashaven't seen any new net issue I'd say16:09
UgglaMoving on.16:09
UgglaSkipping next point because gmaan is on pto16:10
Uggla#topic Release Planning 16:10
Uggla#link https://releases.openstack.org/flamingo/schedule.html16:10
Uggla#info Nova deadlines are set in the above schedule16:10
Uggla#info RC1 in progress.16:10
Uggla#info PTG etherpad for 2026.1 is available: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-2026.1-ptg16:10
Uggla#info Please add the topics you would like to discuss in the above document.16:10
bauzasack16:11
Uggla#topic OpenAPI 16:11
Uggla         #link: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22openapi%22+(project:openstack/nova+OR+project:openstack/placement)+-status:merged+-status:abandoned16:12
Uggla        #info still 28 remaining atm.16:12
UgglaNo progress here, I think it is normal.16:12
Uggla#topic Stable Branches16:13
Ugglaelodilles your turn.16:13
elodillesthanks16:13
elodillesnothing special to report this time16:13
elodilles#info stable branches (stable/2025.* and stable/2024.*) seem to be in OK state16:13
elodilles#info stable branch status / gate failures tracking etherpad: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-stable-branch-ci16:13
elodillesthat's all from me about stable for now16:13
Ugglathx elodilles16:13
elodillesnp16:14
UgglaNext week you should release Flamingo.16:14
bauzasOct-1 indeed16:15
elodillesyepp16:15
elodillesthis week is the final RC week ;)16:15
Ugglaelodilles anything special regarding this?16:15
elodillesnot really. if the team does not consider another RC o:)16:15
bauzasUggla: maybe you don't know, but this week is the last week where we can backport any regression fix to 2025.2 16:16
bauzas#link https://releases.openstack.org/flamingo/schedule.html#f-finalrc16:16
elodilles^^^ as bauzas says16:16
bauzasUggla: I haven't seen any regression bug report so far, did you ?16:17
Ugglanot as well16:17
elodillesfingers crossed16:17
Ugglabut it is fine, nobody wants that. 16:18
UgglaEspecially now16:18
bauzasFlamingo is a non-SLURP release, I just guess that our lovely operators don't really want to test it 16:18
bauzasshould be different for Gazpacho hopefully16:18
Ugglawill see16:19
Ugglaok moving on16:20
Uggla#topic vmwareapi 3rd-party CI efforts Highlights16:20
Ugglaoops fwiesel is not there, so we can skip that one16:20
bauzascool16:21
Uggla#topic Gibi's news about eventlet removal.16:21
gibisorry I'm distracted16:22
gibiskip this please16:22
UgglaI know gibi wants to cover a lot of stuff. But he is currently busy 16:22
gibimaybe at the end 16:22
gibiwe can get back to it16:22
gibiif not then next week16:22
Ugglaok16:23
Uggla#topic Open discussion 16:23
Uggla(Uggla) We need to change the schedule of that meeting. I will open a poll with suggestions, but I’d like to gauge the situation in the meantime here with some questions.16:23
UgglaA lots of contributor here will not be available on tuesday anymore.16:24
bauzasI guess that we unfortunately don't have a quorum now, but I think you could write an email to openstack-discuss@ by providing the poll into it :)16:26
UgglaYep I just would like to know 2 things16:27
gibiwhat are our options?16:28
UgglaWhat do you think on a meeting in the morning every 3 weeks that could be join by people in asia ?16:28
Ugglamorning for european ?16:28
Ugglagibi, friday , monday 18h00 CET without daylight, changing day for 1/3 meeting (between monday and thursday), skipping 1/3 meeting, having 1/3 meeting (monday or thursday) morning CET.16:33
elodilles(i don't have strong opinions on this, so I'm basically okay with what the team decides - as long as the meeting is not during late night in CET/CEST timezone o:))16:33
gibiI have hard no on friday 18:00 CET 16:33
Ugglagibi, to be honest friday is a bad option. I proposed it but everybody will be fried at the end of the week16:34
Ugglaso +1 16:35
gibiI have another appointment that makes it not possible at friday late afternoon16:35
bauzasagreed16:36
Ugglaelodilles do you feel confortable if 1/3 meeting will be on a different day ?16:36
elodillesUggla: could work for me16:38
UgglaDoes someone know if we can set the meeting always at the same time. Avoiding daylight ?16:39
bauzaswe had on-off asian-friendly meetings16:39
bauzasusually once a month, didn't worked 16:39
bauzasUggla: lemme check, that's not very helpful for worldwide contributors but we could 16:40
bauzashttps://meetings.opendev.org/#Nova_Team_Meeting16:40
UgglaDo you want a regular meeting every week, or 1/3 skipping one16:41
gibiwe can try morning call but my experience in the past about that was that even though the option was there there was no other folks joining16:42
bauzasagain, I don't think we have a quorum now, could you propose some framasoft pool with alternatives ?16:42
gibimaybe this time will be different16:42
bauzasgibi: we had noone joining us as we were also having the nova meeting on the same week16:42
bauzasbut if by that week, we do only have one meeting, which would be sooner than the usual one, then hopefully we would get quorum (at least more than now)16:43
gibiwe will miss melwitt dansmith gmaan_pto on the morning call. I hardly call that as a quorum16:44
gibithe usual timezone problem16:44
bauzasthat's why I'd like to see alternatives16:45
Ugglabauzas, as explained I will create a poll. Just want to reduce the list of options16:45
bauzasheh, you haven't seen the one for TC meetings :)16:45
bauzasthat's nice16:45
Ugglaany pref between monday, wednesday, thursday.16:46
bauzasI'm afraid we can't see meetings with another timezone but UTC16:47
bauzashttps://opendev.org/opendev/irc-meetings/src/branch/master/meetings/nova-team-meeting.yaml is the one we have but we can't set a timezone16:47
Ugglamonday 18h00 could work. But not with daylight.16:48
bauzasbut maybe yaml2ical is able to set a specific timezone16:48
bauzasalas, no https://opendev.org/opendev/yaml2ical#yaml-meeting-file16:49
bauzasUggla: well, I can help with running the meeting at 1800 on daylight saving time, if you can't 16:49
bauzasbut that's very late for most of our european contributors16:49
Ugglano with daylight the meeting will be at 17h00 and will conflict with an internal one...16:49
UgglaI mean in winter.16:50
bauzasoh, you meant 1800CET ?16:50
Ugglayep16:50
bauzasask this in the pool16:50
Ugglabut if I consider daylight I should set it at 19h00 (summer) 18h (winter)16:51
bauzasfwiw, we could have two different meeting times16:52
bauzasone before the daylight saving and the other one after the daylight saving, if that helps16:52
bauzasyaml2cal is able to define it16:52
gibiI'm here but I'm brained already16:52
Ugglagibi, that's fine, i'd like to know if you have pref regarding a day for the meeting.16:53
Ugglaor constraint.16:53
Ugglajust trying to reduce the number of options a bit.16:53
gibilooking at my company calendar, wednesday is out if during the winter the meeting moves to 17:00 CET16:53
bauzasI guess we need to discuss that again next week16:53
bauzasUggla: maybe you should start writing an email thread, just explaining your problems16:54
gibimonday might work company wise16:54
bauzasand then we'll try to find a solution cooperatively :)16:54
Ugglanot with daylight16:54
Ugglafor monday16:54
Ugglabauzas sure.16:55
gibiI'm dropping. Sorry.16:57
UgglaOk lets stop16:57
Ugglaat least I manage to remove the Friday option.16:58
Uggla ok time to close. Thanks everyone.16:59
elodilles(and note that daylight saving time switching is on different dates for example for US and EU folks)16:59
Uggla#endmeeting16:59
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elodilleshence, unfortunately sticking to UTC is probably the most straightforward :/17:01
elodillesin my opinion17:01
Ugglaelodilles with all our internal meetings + daylight + reasonable time (not too late), I'm struggling to find a single day that works. :(17:22
UgglaWhat I know is Tuesday is the worst, so we need to change.17:24
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support instances with `user` secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94250221:11
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support instances with `host` secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94179521:11
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add vtpm_secret_(uuid|value) to LibvirtLiveMigrateData  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95262821:11
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support live migration of `host` secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94148321:11
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: bump service version and require it for live migration  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/96205121:11
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support instances with `deployment` secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/94202121:11
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: support live migration of `deployment` secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/92577121:11
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: test live migration between hosts with different security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95262921:11
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: TPM: add late check for supported TPM secret security  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95697521:11
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: WIP Opt-in to new TPM secret security via resize  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/96205221:11
opendevreviewmelanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: DNM vtpm tempest  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/95747721:11
* zigo is running tempest on Trixie + Flamingo, so far so good, VMs are spawned and working ! :P21:54
clarkbzigo: is that with python3.13 too?21:55
zigoYeah.21:55
clarkbexciting21:55
zigoWell, I got Epoxy on official Debian under 3.13, and it works ...21:55
zigoRelease day is when? Tomorrow?21:56
* zigo asks on -release21:56
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