| marios | weekly watcher irc meeting starting here in 30 mins o/ add your agenda items to https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-watcher-irc-meeting | 11:32 |
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| marios | *28* mins | 11:32 |
| marios | starting the weekly irc meeting here in a minute | 11:59 |
| marios | #startmeeting watcher | 12:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Jan 23 12:00:00 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is marios. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 12:00 |
| marios | hello folks, lets do a roll call for a minute and we'll get going. | 12:00 |
| marios | who is around today? | 12:00 |
| amoralej | o/ | 12:00 |
| rlandy | o/ | 12:00 |
| jgilaber | o/ | 12:00 |
| marios | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-watcher-irc-meeting weekly agenda topics | 12:00 |
| marios | we'll take those in order as usual please add any topics you want to present ^^ | 12:01 |
| chandankumar | o/ | 12:01 |
| dviroel | o/ | 12:01 |
| marios | ok lets get going | 12:02 |
| marios | #topic sean: Reset the DPL model for Watcher project: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/939488 | 12:02 |
| marios | sean-k-mooney: o/ around ^ | 12:02 |
| marios | looks like sean-k-mooney is not currently available or momentarily afk... either way does anyone have any updates or comments on that ^ | 12:03 |
| marios | I believe we discussed it last week too... checking the review for any latest | 12:03 |
| marios | so, still needs votes from the other folks | 12:03 |
| rlandy | maybe Martin still needs to -1 it | 12:04 |
| rlandy | or whoever we replace Martin with? | 12:04 |
| marios | #info needs votes from all existing DPL members https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/939488 | 12:04 |
| marios | right in fact that info is wrong | 12:04 |
| marios | Martin doesn't need to -1 it | 12:04 |
| marios | the opposite | 12:04 |
| marios | since he won't be working there any more | 12:04 |
| rlandy | ok - I'll ping Martin and ask to take a look | 12:04 |
| rlandy | just for this case | 12:05 |
| marios | i mean, he should +1 it if anything, like he wants to reset his involvement | 12:05 |
| rlandy | but not the whole model | 12:05 |
| rlandy | " Watcher team either needs to opt-in the DPL | 12:06 |
| rlandy | model for the next cycle or have the PTL in coming election." per the description on the change | 12:06 |
| marios | so we need Martin and Dan to have a look. if they don't comment i think we can take that as they don't/can't be involved moving forward right? | 12:06 |
| rlandy | ok - I'll take the action item to ping them and ask them to take a look | 12:06 |
| marios | did we say chandankumar was interested in going into tact-sig? that would leave us with someone for tact-security then if Dan is not going to continue | 12:07 |
| dviroel | we need to reach gmann on how to proceed, since watcher plans to continue with DPL but we also need to replace at least one liaison | 12:07 |
| rlandy | ^^ dansmith when you are in? can you comment? | 12:07 |
| chandankumar | yes, I was about to say that, you can add me at the place of martin | 12:07 |
| marios | #action rlandy will reach out to Dan and Martin about https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/939488 | 12:07 |
| marios | thank you rlandy | 12:07 |
| marios | so should/will one of us update that patch or should be ping Ghanshyam about it | 12:08 |
| marios | to add Chandan and whoever else might take on the tact-sig does anyone know the proper etiquete? | 12:08 |
| marios | tbd i guess we can revisit this next week | 12:09 |
| marios | any further comments on this one? | 12:09 |
| marios | k moving to the next topic ... | 12:10 |
| marios | #topic (rlandy): watcher-tempest-plugin review ready for core votes: | 12:11 |
| marios | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/watcher-tempest-plugin | 12:11 |
| marios | is that the right link rlandy ^ | 12:11 |
| marios | (i got it from the etherpad) | 12:11 |
| marios | this one ? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/watcher-tempest-plugin/+/939517 | 12:12 |
| chandankumar | i think https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/watcher-tempest-plugin/+/938136/ | 12:12 |
| rlandy | correct | 12:13 |
| marios | right, both of those then? one is rebased on the other right? | 12:13 |
| chandankumar | marios: you have already added the other one | 12:13 |
| chandankumar | yes | 12:13 |
| dviroel | all open: https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/watcher-tempest-plugin+status:+open | 12:13 |
| chandankumar | Tested here: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/watcher/+/939702?usp=search | 12:13 |
| marios | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/watcher-tempest-plugin/+/939517 | 12:13 |
| marios | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/watcher-tempest-plugin/+/938136/ | 12:13 |
| marios | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/watcher/+/939702?usp=search Tested here | 12:14 |
| marios | sean-k-mooney: please check when you next have reviews time ^^^ thank you | 12:14 |
| amoralej | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/watcher-tempest-plugin/+/939517 needs rebase i think | 12:15 |
| marios | ack thanks amoralej ... chandankumar can you check ^ and then sean-k-mooney can vote | 12:15 |
| chandankumar | amoralej: marios sure, let me rebase it | 12:16 |
| marios | thanks | 12:16 |
| marios | anything further on this topic ? | 12:16 |
| opendevreview | chandan kumar proposed openstack/watcher-tempest-plugin master: Run make_host/instance statistics function for gnocchi datasource https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/watcher-tempest-plugin/+/939517 | 12:16 |
| marios | moving on ... | 12:17 |
| marios | #topic marios: watcher decision engine prometheus datasource https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/watcher/+/934423 | 12:17 |
| marios | so i think we can merge this? sean-k-mooney as previously discussed | 12:18 |
| marios | the last update was ~2 weeks ago (tomorrow) | 12:18 |
| marios | there are no further requests or comments and -1 | 12:18 |
| opendevreview | chandan kumar proposed openstack/watcher-tempest-plugin master: Run make_host/instance statistics function for gnocchi datasource https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/watcher-tempest-plugin/+/939517 | 12:19 |
| marios | so sean-k-mooney please have a look and merge https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/watcher/+/934423 when you next have time for reviews o/ thanks | 12:19 |
| dviroel | +1 to merge it | 12:19 |
| marios | thank you dviroel | 12:20 |
| marios | and all reviewers | 12:20 |
| sean-k-mooney | yep i will do that today | 12:20 |
| marios | thank you sean-k-mooney | 12:20 |
| sean-k-mooney | and sorry i was not around before but i am now | 12:20 |
| marios | #info merging prometheus datasource https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/watcher/+/934423 | 12:20 |
| marios | np sean-k-mooney | 12:20 |
| marios | anything else before we move to the next topic? | 12:21 |
| sean-k-mooney | nope | 12:21 |
| marios | ;) | 12:21 |
| marios | moving on | 12:22 |
| marios | #topic (marios): bug triage summary | 12:22 |
| marios | so i think rlandy you added a related item on the agenda | 12:22 |
| marios | we had another bug triage call/irc meeting combination this week | 12:22 |
| marios | fetching logs | 12:22 |
| marios | #info weekly bug triage meeting minutes Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/watcher_bug_triage_21_january_2025/2025/watcher_bug_triage_21_january_2025.2025-01-21-12.00.html | 12:23 |
| opendevreview | Alfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/watcher master: Add support for instance metrics to prometheus datasource https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/watcher/+/938893 | 12:23 |
| marios | we got through a few this week, we did them newest first this time around | 12:23 |
| marios | anything anyone wants to add or hilight? | 12:23 |
| marios | per rlandy item on the agenda, we said we would have one more call/irc combination next week at the same time (tuesday 1200 utc) | 12:24 |
| rlandy | just if anyone else wants to run the call? | 12:24 |
| marios | we need someone to chair so we can give rlandy a well deserved rest | 12:24 |
| marios | thank you rlandy | 12:24 |
| rlandy | otherwise I can do it | 12:24 |
| marios | do you *want* to do it? :D | 12:25 |
| rlandy | it will be the last focused bug call | 12:25 |
| rlandy | I'm fine with it either way | 12:25 |
| marios | i mean, if you want/don't mind then we can cancel the call for volunteers... ;) | 12:25 |
| rlandy | I'll do it | 12:25 |
| marios | \o/ | 12:25 |
| marios | thank you rlandy | 12:25 |
| dviroel | rlandy++ | 12:25 |
| marios | #info rlandy will chair bug triage call tue 28 1200 UTC | 12:25 |
| marios | rlandy: bug czar | 12:26 |
| marios | k any other comments or concerns before we move on | 12:26 |
| dviroel | only rlandy can talk on gmeet, write on lauchnpad and on irc at the same time | 12:27 |
| marios | yes :) | 12:27 |
| rlandy | lol - not that hard | 12:27 |
| marios | moving to the next topic | 12:28 |
| marios | #topic (marios): chair for irc meeting feb 06 | 12:28 |
| marios | we have a chair for next week thank you dviroel o/ | 12:28 |
| dviroel | :) | 12:28 |
| marios | can we have a volunteer for the next one on feb 06? | 12:28 |
| rlandy | I'll do it | 12:28 |
| marios | i.e. this meeting in 2 weeks | 12:29 |
| marios | ok thank you again rlandy :) | 12:29 |
| marios | #info rlandy will chair irc meeting feb 06 1200 UTC | 12:29 |
| marios | ok moving on then... | 12:30 |
| marios | i don't see any other topics so... | 12:30 |
| marios | #topic open floor | 12:30 |
| marios | anything else someone wants to bring up? | 12:30 |
| marios | anything from the mailing list we can hilight? | 12:30 |
| rlandy | marios: do we need to return to the governance discussion if sean-k-mooney is with us now? | 12:30 |
| marios | sure | 12:30 |
| amoralej | i just sent a new ps on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/watcher/+/938893/ with doc fix | 12:31 |
| amoralej | please reset your vots | 12:31 |
| marios | thanks for updating amoralej looking now | 12:31 |
| sean-k-mooney | the DPL topic | 12:31 |
| sean-k-mooney | we can if ye want. at the end | 12:32 |
| marios | we are there :) | 12:32 |
| marios | sean-k-mooney: ^ | 12:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | so we have 2 related topics actully. on the dpl topic, we coudl revert to the PTL model but i think we would need to propose nomination this week if we wanted to do that | 12:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | otherwise we can continue with the dpl process for one more cycle to see if that works for us | 12:33 |
| marios | i think we only one we don't have is replacement for dan tact-security | 12:33 |
| marios | ah.. onboarding too | 12:34 |
| marios | ke chen | 12:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | so onboarding is not actully required | 12:34 |
| marios | ok | 12:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | if needed i cna do the tact-security role but ill reach out to dan and see if they are willing to continue in that role later today | 12:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | marios: are you ok to contiue to be the infra liasion | 12:35 |
| marios | #info please revisit https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/watcher/+/938893 (and parent patch merging today) | 12:35 |
| marios | sean-k-mooney: yes | 12:35 |
| sean-k-mooney | so the 3 required roels are infra, security and release | 12:35 |
| marios | and chandankumar also wanted to join sean-k-mooney | 12:35 |
| sean-k-mooney | ack | 12:36 |
| sean-k-mooney | lets check with gman what the process is and if we shoudl propsoe a new revision to the patch after we check with dan | 12:36 |
| marios | sean-k-mooney: so rlandy already has an action item to reach out to dan and martin can you please coordinate with rlandy ? | 12:36 |
| rlandy | do we need martin to vote or can chandankumar just replace? | 12:36 |
| rlandy | no problem to reach out to martin if that is the way to go | 12:36 |
| sean-k-mooney | so i think if we follow the process stictly | 12:36 |
| rlandy | sean-k-mooney, you can coordinate with dan | 12:37 |
| rlandy | I'll reach out to martin | 12:37 |
| sean-k-mooney | if we dont all vote -1 in time then the patch is merged and we revert to ptl model | 12:37 |
| sean-k-mooney | then we can submit a new patch to go back to dpl | 12:37 |
| marios | well i mean, if its like that we already have a couple -1s on it | 12:37 |
| marios | so as you said (and we mentioned earlier in this meeting) we also need to ask Ghanshyam if we can update the patch or post new one | 12:37 |
| sean-k-mooney | and if they are ok to contues as release liason | 12:38 |
| marios | right | 12:38 |
| sean-k-mooney | lets follow up with peopel asyc of the meetign and try and resolve this by the end of the week | 12:38 |
| marios | do you want to do that and rlandy will reach out to dan and martin as previously agreed here? | 12:38 |
| marios | that being reach out to ghanshyam | 12:38 |
| sean-k-mooney | i can reach out to dan and gmann | 12:39 |
| marios | ok thank you sean-k-mooney | 12:39 |
| marios | #action sean-k-mooney to reach out Dan and Ghanshyam re https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/939488 | 12:39 |
| dviroel | what about chenke? | 12:39 |
| marios | right dviroel | 12:39 |
| sean-k-mooney | i can email them too i guess and see if they resopond | 12:39 |
| marios | great thanks sean-k-mooney | 12:40 |
| sean-k-mooney | the ohter option is we coudl have a ptl election + still have addtional liaons | 12:40 |
| marios | #action sean-k-mooney to reach out to chenker re https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/939488 | 12:40 |
| sean-k-mooney | so that always our backup plan if this does not pan out | 12:40 |
| marios | any other topic for open floor? | 12:41 |
| dviroel | ok so we first need to check with them if they plan to continue, and after that decide who is going to take the empty chairs :) | 12:41 |
| marios | right dviroel | 12:41 |
| sean-k-mooney | yep | 12:41 |
| sean-k-mooney | so related topic. | 12:41 |
| marios | but i think as we discussed here we should be covered on the 'who will take them' | 12:41 |
| marios | so mostly it is a sanity check that indeed they won't be around/interested | 12:41 |
| marios | (unless they might be i don't know) | 12:41 |
| marios | ;) | 12:41 |
| sean-k-mooney | i didnt get to send this yet but im currently working on an email regarding expandign the watcher core teams | 12:42 |
| sean-k-mooney | i am going to try and send that today and ill reach out to peopel before i do to confirm if they are ok with being nominated | 12:43 |
| marios | great thanks sean-k-mooney | 12:43 |
| sean-k-mooney | for now i am not going to propose removign anyoen form the core groups with the excption fo martin | 12:43 |
| dviroel | ++ | 12:43 |
| marios | we have discussed this in a couple of the recent irc meetings too... this being expanding our core group especially since reviews are starting to back up | 12:43 |
| sean-k-mooney | since martin will nolonger be aroudn ill remove them form the watcher tempest plugin core group but if they return we can alwasy readd them | 12:44 |
| marios | as just one example my prometheus datasource has been sitting for 2 weeks | 12:44 |
| marios | because we will merge it with one core +2 | 12:44 |
| sean-k-mooney | yep so im going to be conservite in my proposal and we can revisit this topic again after/at the ptg | 12:45 |
| sean-k-mooney | but my propsal is to email the list | 12:45 |
| sean-k-mooney | and reivew next week | 12:45 |
| marios | sounds good | 12:45 |
| sean-k-mooney | if there are no objections after the next meetign ill apply the chagnes in gerrit | 12:45 |
| dviroel | lgtm | 12:46 |
| sean-k-mooney | that was all i had on that topic. | 12:46 |
| marios | any further comments or concers on this one? | 12:46 |
| marios | #info sean-k-mooney will propose expanding the core groups with post to openstack-discuss | 12:47 |
| marios | any other topics for today? | 12:47 |
| marios | thanks all for your participation o/ | 12:49 |
| marios | #endmeeting | 12:49 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Jan 23 12:49:17 2025 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:49 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/watcher/2025/watcher.2025-01-23-12.00.html | 12:49 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/watcher/2025/watcher.2025-01-23-12.00.txt | 12:49 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/watcher/2025/watcher.2025-01-23-12.00.log.html | 12:49 |
| dviroel | tks marios o/ | 12:49 |
| amoralej | thanks marios ! | 12:49 |
| rlandy | thanks marios | 12:49 |
| marios | thanks all | 12:49 |
| chandankumar | thank you marios :-) | 12:49 |
| opendevreview | OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/puppet-watcher master: reno: Update master for unmaintained/2023.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/puppet-watcher/+/940043 | 16:12 |
| gmann | sean-k-mooney: yeah,i can continue on watcher TC liaison but honestly saying if its not me then it can be someone else from TC. I mean this is not mandatory requirement fromproject team instead it is from TC | 18:41 |
| gmann | sean-k-mooney: also we need Ke Chen feedback also there but not sure if they are active? | 18:41 |
| sean-k-mooney | well we can also remove it form the list | 18:41 |
| sean-k-mooney | ya i have not reached out to them yet, or seen them for a while | 18:42 |
| sean-k-mooney | luna new year is soon too right? i assume they will not be aviabel as a result soon | 18:42 |
| sean-k-mooney | Wed, Jan 29, 2025 | 18:42 |
| gmann | yeah | 18:43 |
| sean-k-mooney | gmann: what is the dealine for this? | 18:43 |
| gmann | Feb 5th nomination of election https://governance.openstack.org/election/ | 18:43 |
| sean-k-mooney | worstcase we can revert to ptl, ill submit my candacy and then also add liasons so that we can spread the work | 18:44 |
| gmann | sean-k-mooney: one way can be to remove now and if they come back you can always add them back anytime | 18:44 |
| gmann | sean-k-mooney: that also work | 18:44 |
| gmann | sean-k-mooney: as you know, as PTL, they can always spread the tasks/work | 18:44 |
| sean-k-mooney | while we have been trying to get everythign workign i kind of have been trying not to be the bottel neck and or take on all the rols of ptl | 18:45 |
| sean-k-mooney | so ya if we whent that route i would hope ot spread the roles if we had the same volenteers | 18:46 |
| sean-k-mooney | gmann: so we have a week or so before we hit that deadline, ill send an email to chenke this evening and we can see if we get an responce | 18:47 |
| gmann | sean-k-mooney: perfect, thanks | 18:47 |
| sean-k-mooney | if we dont hear back by next weeks irc meeting we can decied how to proceed | 18:47 |
| gmann | sean-k-mooney: if DPL needs to be continue then you can propose new change on top of it with new list of liaison https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/939488 | 18:48 |
| gmann | sean-k-mooney: sounds good | 18:48 |
| sean-k-mooney | ack i guess there i no harm in doing that now anyway just to have it there | 18:48 |
| sean-k-mooney | we can alwasy just merge both (reset and change back) | 18:49 |
| sean-k-mooney | since we need to update the names anyway | 18:49 |
| gmann | ++, I was about to say that. it will help to have TC votes in advance just in case | 18:52 |
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